FL vs ML

[vyvyv]

I dunno you bros, but after chionging for a year or so (still newbie), I feel visiting FLs is better than visiting MLs. Both money wise and mental wise. Just sharing my thoughts, and hope to hear views from experience bros here as well.

1. Many $88 shops now, then hj & roam top only +$100. most MLs will limit the things you can do to them (e.g no kissing, no fingering). For the same or lower price, can get 2s/90m and can do almost anything with FL (e.g. shower, zhu zhu etc)

2. MLs i visited mostly give me ok only massage (maybe cause i visit SYT?) Sometimes I ask FL give me massage they also ok cause 90 mins got time.

3. Its easier to get attached to MLs, then kanna KC (I kanna before). Then pressured to give regular MLs CNY red packet, valentine gifts, birthday gifts etc. End of day, get heart and wallet broken. FLs mostly on short term pass, most likely visit 2 times then zhao off.

4. Frankly, i feel FLs are kinder. They do not attempt to KC you cause they here for 2-3 weeks only. At most give you fake moans... haha. MLs will give you fake gfe (and msg you) hoping you will come back look for her. To be fair, maybe MLs need to do that cause need to hit their sales quota (boss pressure).

The good thing is MLs are usually prettier than FLs. Body and skill wise I think both about the same.

My opinion only. Hope I don't get zap (high risk cause posting at SPA forum.. haha)

[Vriess]

Don't FLs from prcs have 30+30 ?
I think thais, indos and viets are also 30+30 visas ?

[Hurricane88]

Flashback...when I started visiting ML...all were mostly Malaysians which are easy to communicate and able to give decent massage...fj was $80 to $100...:)

The FL at legal whorehouses were also mostly Malaysians till PRC took over...those days $150 for 2 shot...include bathing and full course...if you regular then the FL may keep hugging you before time up...becos no client yet...:)

Then there weren't any FLs on website till few years later flooded...beginning was Thai then followed by PRC and Viet few years later...:)

FLs on SBF then was only charging $60 to $100 full course...till now think $150 onwards...:)

[oxeso]

I personally go to traditional clean massage pl for massages, whore hse for fucks. Becos i neber had a waitress who cooks better than the chef n a chef who serves better than the waitress.

[stdioh]

I personally go to traditional clean massage pl for massages, whore hse for fucks. Becos i neber had a waitress who cooks better than the chef n a chef who serves better than the waitress.

You are definitely right. I prefer to do it this way too. but then sometimes, there is this thrill of having an Omakase when visiting a ML for massage, you do not know what you will be having... :D:D:D:D:D

[shimasu]

I dunno you bros, but after chionging for a year or so (still newbie), I feel visiting FLs is better than visiting MLs. Both money wise and mental wise. Just sharing my thoughts, and hope to hear views from experience bros here as well.

1. Many $88 shops now, then hj & roam top only +$100. most MLs will limit the things you can do to them (e.g no kissing, no fingering). For the same or lower price, can get 2s/90m and can do almost anything with FL (e.g. shower, zhu zhu etc)

2. MLs i visited mostly give me ok only massage (maybe cause i visit SYT?) Sometimes I ask FL give me massage they also ok cause 90 mins got time.

3. Its easier to get attached to MLs, then kanna KC (I kanna before). Then pressured to give regular MLs CNY red packet, valentine gifts, birthday gifts etc. End of day, get heart and wallet broken. FLs mostly on short term pass, most likely visit 2 times then zhao off.

4. Frankly, i feel FLs are kinder. They do not attempt to KC you cause they here for 2-3 weeks only. At most give you fake moans... haha. MLs will give you fake gfe (and msg you) hoping you will come back look for her. To be fair, maybe MLs need to do that cause need to hit their sales quota (boss pressure).

The good thing is MLs are usually prettier than FLs. Body and skill wise I think both about the same.

My opinion only. Hope I don't get zap (high risk cause posting at SPA forum.. haha)

Even more newbie than you.. I only started chionging for 3-4 mths. I share similar views as u. my current MO is if i wanna F. i engage FL. if i need a massage and maybe + juagen or even HJ when im lazy to exercise :p.. i will seek out the MLs that does this.. to the extend of no sexual services.. more clear cut..

But I understand some bros like the trill of the teasing and uncertainty of ML dunno can unlock more services etc.. like doing quest :D but personally i find that a hassle and financially seems not worth it I feel.

Of cos there are also those hybrid that basically is offering FJ but also comes with really solid massage, like the uyghur ML u can find in the forum i'm sure u bros know who i'm talking about :D

[oxeso]

but then sometimes, there is this thrill of having an Omakase when visiting a ML for massage, you do not know what you will be having... :D:D:D:D:D
Of cos.. :D perhaps when i feel adventurous. :D but i go spas mainly to chill, for the facilities. Somehow find whore hses more thrilling leh.. 人各有爽吧。。:p

[Tiber]

I wonder where there used to be malaysians, now mostly replaced by prcs.
Where have the malaysians gone.

[tankawen]

I dunno you bros, but after chionging for a year or so (still newbie),

The good thing is MLs are usually prettier than FLs. Body and skill wise I think both about the same.



Actually my personal experience differs from this. Almost all the MLs I've tried in the past few years are all just average at max in terms of looks. Whereas the FLs I've met recently from Domes 1 and 3 are mostly quite chio, and even the worst looking is not uglier than the MLs. Maybe it's just my bad luck with MLs

[newswing]

I know some ML shops charged entrance fee b'cos some of the ladies offer good massage.

But they have to know bcos of the rising cost, they may have to consider lowering the entrance fee or remove them
U never know guys like us may start to think of going to JB?

[StealthBomber]

Flashback...when I started visiting ML...all were mostly Malaysians which are easy to communicate and able to give decent massage...fj was $80 to $100...:)

The FL at legal whorehouses were also mostly Malaysians till PRC took over...those days $150 for 2 shot...include bathing and full course...if you regular then the FL may keep hugging you before time up...becos no client yet...:)

Then there weren't any FLs on website till few years later flooded...beginning was Thai then followed by PRC and Viet few years later...:)

FLs on SBF then was only charging $60 to $100 full course...till now think $150 onwards...:)

Before covid hit, can find thai FL for as low as $60/shot or $90/2. Only if you insist on model or syt looks then maybe 110/1 or 160/2.

I remember having the best bangs with 100/2 or 120/2 FL, middling range. One that I got along with well, actually added me to her fb and insta till today can see what she is up to in chiang rai, she got hubby and 2 kids living in a nice 1-storey terrace house with car hahaha..those were the days. Now all aging.

That time so many stables operating in convenient locations. To the point if I have work or company event in the evening and have to freshen up, sometimes I will book FL for 1 shot release then get to rest and shower ...hahhahs

[ssspikeee]

But I understand some bros like the trill of the teasing and uncertainty of ML dunno can unlock more services etc.. like doing quest :D

This. Haha.
Yeah some like the chase, rather than having it too easy upfront.

[blu3fin]

Before covid hit, can find thai FL for as low as $60/shot or $90/2. Only if you insist on model or syt looks then maybe 110/1 or 160/2.

I remember having the best bangs with 100/2 or 120/2 FL, middling range. One that I got along with well, actually added me to her fb and insta till today can see what she is up to in chiang rai, she got hubby and 2 kids living in a nice 1-storey terrace house with car hahaha..those were the days. Now all aging.

That time so many stables operating in convenient locations. To the point if I have work or company event in the evening and have to freshen up, sometimes I will book FL for 1 shot release then get to rest and shower ...hahhahs

Hahaha... get the FL to freshen you up🤣

Your colleagues be wondering why you look so happy.

[ineedfriends]

Even in Malaysia, u cannot find malaysian girls. I was at NZ spa in JB 2 months ago, and its all Cambodian, Laos, China and Viet girls. Cannot even find one malaysian

the power of SGD

[WinterMelonTree]

I personally go to traditional clean massage pl for massages, whore hse for fucks. Becos i neber had a waitress who cooks better than the chef n a chef who serves better than the waitress.

wah piang eh, we have a poet here in sbf!!

[vyvyv]

Actually my personal experience differs from this. Almost all the MLs I've tried in the past few years are all just average at max in terms of looks. Whereas the FLs I've met recently from Domes 1 and 3 are mostly quite chio, and even the worst looking is not uglier than the MLs. Maybe it's just my bad luck with MLs

I chiong Dome 1 only. Can agree with you, the girls really pretty and young (mid 20s). Normally (based on my limited experience) the prettier MLs are at the $88 shops. Chionged a few at river valley, amk, tiong bahru, opal cres etc.

Maybe cause I prefer fair skinned ones, which is harder to find at Dome 1.

[vyvyv]

But I understand some bros like the trill of the teasing and uncertainty of ML dunno can unlock more services etc.. like doing quest :D

Haha ya, same feeling. Maybe cause of the exclusiveness feeling (boost ego?) also.

E.g. only i unlocked fj with this ml -vs- everyone can fj with this fl

[magill98]

In terms of price Vs service offered, of course FL path is more cost effective. But for those who wants a regular; someone that suits or understands your preference, hassle free (no landmine), ML would be the option even a bit pricer. Both has it's pros and cons. It depends on each person's need at that time, convenience, lifestyle and of course the depth of the pocket in each month. 😆.

[oxeso]

wah piang eh, we have a poet here in sbf!!
Knn smlj poet? :confused:

[WinterMelonTree]

Knn smlj poet? :confused:

Meaning you're good with words lah lol

[StealthBomber]

Even in Malaysia, u cannot find malaysian girls. I was at NZ spa in JB 2 months ago, and its all Cambodian, Laos, China and Viet girls. Cannot even find one malaysian

It's ironic how recently in malaysia news the police there were publicising about how they shut down a "swinger's club" operating from a condo, netting several individuals including the organisers.

Yet these vice activites are still carried out openly - am sure it is public knowledge! :D Must pay off the right people

[StealthBomber]

Hahaha... get the FL to freshen you up🤣

Your colleagues be wondering why you look so happy.

The FL help to shower you after you are done..hahaha. Nowadays, no, these "showers" are too expensive.

[diuyourmother]

You know a bit more about ML, thus more feel.