How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type [Archive] - Page 15

warbird

17-08-2013, 12:03 PM

learnt alot from this thread. bump for the night. :D

Thanks bro, hope that you will share ur exploits here...

Yup True, but actually just like to ask the bros here. If a girl or a few girls keeps messaging you she miss you or waiting for you. What do they mean??.................................

Need more info, is the message generic, i.e. did not address the name you gave her, or specific to you? You know, to clarify whether it's a mass sending to all guys on her address book. haha.

Seems generic and not mass send cause she kept sending like hi or hey my name..........................

Aiyo..if WL likely to be KC traps lar..If really miss you will be dying to come out and meet you and just stare at you and smile her silly smile.

Yeah, highly possible. But the one which spend the night with me is working overseas. Yup enjoying the company at least not so bored just working.

Bros, impossible to give an answer or come to any conclusion cuz the context is unclear.

You see, everything depends on the girl n ur RS w/ her.

Maybe she is trying to cheat u of ur money and/or feelings or simply playing w/ u or maybe she is emotionally n sexually addicted to u.

If you're confident that u hv given her intense PVO no man has given her, the answer is very clear haha. She craves you desperately...

hi Warbird,

what are HH and SH ?

Bro,

HH = Happy Hour, SH = Standard Hour

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The current no. 1 top Korean race queen/model Heo Yun Mi (go google her) is here in Singapore, along with many of her peers from Korea

Was told about it by my Korean gal who works at the Korean/Thai joint and so I went to take a look. She pointed Yun Mi to me and true enough, she was the most stunning gal there.................

Yun Mi came to our table. She is 172cm tall and has very slender arms and legs – the type Bro Warbird loves. She has nice round C to D boobs but I’m not sure if they were real or fake until I get to lay my hands on it. She looks slimmer than in her photos. She refused taking photos with me, citing inappropriate venue, and I couldn’t get her contact number.....................

The Korean gal who sat with me throughout the night joked that I’m a playboy. LOL! But she stayed with me the whole night and even rejected customer buying her time for $720…

There… an uneventful night… but the experience of being able to have sparred with the very top model from Korea (according to my Korean gal who is also a model back in S. Korea) was worth the night… I'm already smitten...

Hi bro FA,

Don't understand why a top Korean model would come to work in a joint in SG.:confused:

Next time go there yourself n book her. Then ask for ST asap...if she says no, pass her ctc to me n I'll meet her n make an offer. I know u don't BY.

Yes, Ms Heo appears to be my type. I always ask the girl, before STing or BYing, if the boobs r augmented or natural and if she has had any major surgical operations/childbirth haha. Then the next question is: How hard will she come for me.:D

Cheers!

Wow, top Korean gal... Must b v chio... Have been trying to have fun in a Korean joint, but not really knowing the contacts.. Sad... Good for u bro..

We hope that bro FA will ST her n give his juicy FR here haha.

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Good afternoon!

Yesterday bro KB sent me a photo showing 3 singers from DC n one of them is LL. He asked me to pick LL from the photo as I had never seen her.

In my previous posts, I hv mentioned that this famous LL, a young MILF born in 1986, who is around 164-165 in height, is being BYed by a rich patron purportedly at a princely sum of 100K SGD a month, not including gifts n living expenses. She also continues to work n collects flower fees from other admirers (aka suckers) to the tune of thousands n often tens of thousands daily.

I picked the prettiest gal in the photo, thinking that it must be the fabled LL. I was dead wrong! LL is so so looking in the photo as her chin is a bit longish...maybe she is not photogenic?

Bro KB has seen her several times n he posed a question to me: Could we imagine how unattractive n uncouth she would look sans makeup n squatting down by the roadside? He saw her in that vulgar n compromised position one day...

In recent days I hv sent KB pics of a number of very pretty SYTs of my type in China. Most of them r uni students. Some of them would do ST for 1500-2000 RMB or 300-400 SGD. A few want BY only. I'm trying to get a couple of them to come to SG to spend a month or two w/ me. Their damage for the whole month? About 50K RMB or 10K SGD. Bro KB agrees that these girls r much prettier than LL. 10K a month for a very pretty SYT? It's less than what LL, an unknown MILF who often sings out of tune, makes in a good day.

This is an example of extreme market inefficiency.

I'm a relentless n deep value investor hahaha. I leave no stone unturned...

I suggested to bro KB that LL must hv mass hypnotized or "mass KC-ed" all her patrons hahaha.

Talking abt SGD 300 for ST. I hv two gals whom I STed in the past who had married young rich men...one in SG n the other in Malaysia. That would be another story.

Cheers!

Bro WB.

fallen.angel

17-08-2013, 02:03 PM

Bro tcrecruit and WB大哥,

The top Korean race queens/models are here for a special event. Yun Mi and the other models are here for 2 weeks only. Then other models will be here for the next 2 weeks. Next week, I'm going to bring a Taiwanese dancer there cos she wants to see for herself the top Korean race queens. LOL. And according to my ROC gal who is here for holidays, these Korean top models are being conned to come here. And lucky for her, she's not working this trip here, otherwise she won't be able to beat this kind of competition.

Having spoken with a Korean business man before, I think the joint probably paid the model management company a sum of money to fly these models here. The joint will then get its rich customers to come down and support. You never see customer hanging $1K until these top models come. I just wonder if they make back their money.

The Korean gal who sat with me throughout the night works there so ill get her to be my translator. Not all the RQs can speak and understand English well.

Yun Mi doesn't stay at my table long cos she's got lots of tables to go to cos she has lots of flowers. Anyways, lets see how it goes...

newbieboy

17-08-2013, 02:23 PM

Bro tcrecruit and WB大哥,

The top Korean race queens/models are here for a special event. Yun Mi and the other models are here for 2 weeks only. Then other models will be here for the next 2 weeks. Next week, I'm going to bring a Taiwanese dancer there cos she wants to see for herself the top Korean race queens. LOL. And according to my ROC gal who is here for holidays, these Korean top models are being conned to come here. And lucky for her, she's not working this trip here, otherwise she won't be able to beat this kind of competition.

Having spoken with a Korean business man before, I think the joint probably paid the model management company a sum of money to fly these models here. The joint will then get its rich customers to come down and support. You never see customer hanging $1K until these top models come. I just wonder if they make back their money.

The Korean gal who sat with me throughout the night works there so ill get her to be my translator. Not all the RQs can speak and understand English well.

Yun Mi doesn't stay at my table long cos she's got lots of tables to go to cos she has lots of flowers. Anyways, lets see how it goes...

Bro which joint is this... :D

fallen.angel

17-08-2013, 02:41 PM

Bro which joint is this... :D

Embassy, Odeon Towers...

newbieboy

19-08-2013, 04:13 PM

Embassy, Odeon Towers...

Oh Embassy! Heard good things about it!

fallen.angel

19-08-2013, 04:59 PM

Well, I don’t know if the economy is that bad now but many HFJs and KTVs are having poor business now… maybe also partly due to the 7th month… for example, business at DC is so bad that there’s hardly any customers on weekends, as confirmed by the singers and Bro who was there last Saturday… Muse, the Taiwanese/Singaporean joint next to Embassy is so bad that the singers sing to themselves! Business at Embassy is not spared until the Korean top models came. Still, there are more gals than customers. But hurry, if you wanna meet Heo Yun Mi, cos she will be leaving on 22 August

I guess its a good time to pick up some gals for ST/BY since business is poor now... honed your skills brudders!!

newbieboy

19-08-2013, 07:46 PM

smellyccb

20-08-2013, 12:46 PM

heard good stuffs abt embassy & muse with korean taiwan n sg chicks... Will b going down soon & hopefully able to hv a happy ending with any of e hot chicks there

jdi813

20-08-2013, 07:06 PM

Just went down last nite quite packed ... models we could ID off hand were ...
1. Heo Yun Mi (the way she dances can give you wet dreams)
2. Ban Eun Young (really cute n outgoing)
3. Han Chae Yee (looked good from afar)
4. Seo Jin Ah (skinny but really big boobs)
5. Seo Yoon Ah (not bad looked friendly)
6. Yoon Mi Jin (her body is fantastic, tall fit tight ... amazing)

Anyone can ID the rest of them?

fallen.angel

21-08-2013, 11:44 AM

kthan10

21-08-2013, 12:00 PM

Wat's ST and BY means?

Tnuc111

21-08-2013, 02:54 PM

Wat's ST and BY means?

ST is Short Time (1 shot) and BY is 包养 (kept woman)

warbird

21-08-2013, 03:34 PM

Bro tcrecruit and WB大哥,

The top Korean race queens/models are here for a special event. Yun Mi and the other models are here for 2 weeks only. Then other models will be here for the next 2 weeks.......................

Yun Mi doesn't stay at my table long cos she's got lots of tables to go to cos she has lots of flowers. Anyways, lets see how it goes...

Bro which joint is this... :D

Embassy, Odeon Towers...

Oh Embassy! Heard good things about it!

Well, I don’t know if the economy is that bad now but many HFJs and KTVs are having poor business now… maybe also partly due to the 7th month..............

I guess its a good time to pick up some gals for ST/BY since business is poor now... honed your skills brudders!!

Need to work to a level where skills become recession proof... :D

heard good stuffs abt embassy & muse with korean taiwan n sg chicks... Will b going down soon & hopefully able to hv a happy ending with any of e hot chicks there

Just went down last nite quite packed ... models we could ID off hand were ..................................

Anyone can ID the rest of them?

By end of the week or next week, they will be replaced with another team of top race queens… :)

Hi bros,

Tks for posting...I'm tickled pink to see so many busy, successful n esteemed bros here.

I would be even more grateful if you guys could share ur pickup n St-ing and/or BY-ing experiences/strategies in general, but of course w/ these sexy Korean babes in particular...

I hv personally discussed at length w/ some of u on the vital subjects of foreplay, penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction, the role of men as providers n protectors and 'true love' hahaha...I hv learnt a lot.

The collective experiences n wisdom of these bros (and several others) are incredibly deep and vast n I'll try to persuade them to share some of their secrets.

Thanks again,

Bro WB

fallen.angel

21-08-2013, 04:17 PM

Bro, I understand the importance of penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction, and how you would keep reminding me to give so-and-so PVOs etc, not that I don’t practise or strive for it, but most times, its ST or GL for me, and you just want to relax and be pleasured, not giving the other party the orgasm of her lifetime. I mean can you imagine giving the WL in GL multiple violent vaginal orgasms? Then they would be the ones paying me ya?

That being said, I have had a session with a SQ gal recently and I licked her till she shivered into the seventh heaven and pumped her till her eyes rolled back in ecstasy. I also use to be able to make my gal cum just by oral+finger stimulation but she has grown immune to my attacks… she now only cum during penetrative sex but because our bodies are in sync (we always cum together), I would sometimes cheat by signalling to her that I’m coming (bluff) and let her cum first. I believe once you get a gal to cum first (without you cumming) you can easily make her cum and cum and cum.

As for picking up gals… I always go chiong with my buddy (when I’m not meeting Bro WB) and this guy is a guy who is very very good with ladies. Just last week when we were at Embassy, we sat at a table and he saw Heo Yun Mi standing upstairs (where the rich people sits) and with his finger, signalled her to come down. And she came down and walked to our table. Just like that. No need flowers or anything.

Oh, and on Monday night, we went to DC and I told the tall singer CZ it was my birthday. She went to buy a cake for me and we had the cake there at DC. Very sweet and kind of her. I was also shown Linda’s photo – one taken by her jie meis just when she came straight out of the showers, naked and without makeups. I must agree with the singers that she has natural beauty and she’s really sweet and she’s the most beautiful singer there.

deathnitez

21-08-2013, 07:35 PM

miniboy

21-08-2013, 08:02 PM

and with his finger, signalled her to come down. And she came down and walked to our table. Just like that. No need flowers or anything.

Thats the power of using 1 finger than a hand

smellyccb

22-08-2013, 02:12 AM

these koreans r quite hot but looking at them carefully most of them have plastic surgeries so 4 me preferbly i look 4 taiwanese or sporeans... cos chinese still turn me on

airbrush

22-08-2013, 11:17 AM

[QUOTE=warbird;9552161

I hv personally discussed at length w/ some of u on the vital subjects of foreplay, penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction, the role of men as providers n protectors and 'true love' hahaha...I hv learnt a lot.

The collective experiences n wisdom of these bros (and several others) are incredibly deep and vast n I'll try to persuade them to share some of their secrets.

Thanks again,

Bro WB[/QUOTE]

Haha for me there were many try and error till I discover that to achieve PVO need to know the girl PMS and between the day 13 to 15 window after the PMS is the good time to intimate and PVO.

Besides both party have to prepare in order to achieve the result. Food a few days before you wanted to intimate you need to have rest. I will reduce my work load and I will bring the girl out for seafood especially crabs and for me prawns.

I do all these back door preparation without telling the girl. Whether she sense it or not I will never tell the girl. It sound troublesome but it worth that back door preparation.

Warning! she can be very addicted that in one day she may one at least two to three time intimating. My first experience gave me my result that the girl after the first round wanted another round that I have to tell her I will give you a good one after some rest.

The only homework that you need is to keep a constant note on the girl PMS because some girl PMS is not regular that why I put a window between 13 to 15 days after their PMS.

And of course never forget to make the girl more beautiful.

Above is my experience but whether it will work on you I don't know.

fallen.angel

22-08-2013, 01:08 PM

Actually I sometimes did think the same way as you but whenever the girl pvo they seems to go much crazy about me or something messaging me or keep saying missing me. Then my subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give, some even travel from overseas to come singapore to visit me hehe. :cool: So I feel WB is in a way quite true about why girls do get addicted to pvo. Guess is called give and take??

For my regular gal, yes, and she always get PVOs from me and I know she’s mine forever. She thinks I’m cocky but we both know we are so in sync that its extremely difficult for her to find a replacement. Hahaha.

Wow, how do you get your next sexxion with WLs in GL for free!?!?! Yes, gals get addicted to PVOs but I’m not gonna make WLs addicted to me – I don’t want free services or whatever more I can get from them LOL!

fallen.angel

22-08-2013, 01:09 PM

Haha for me there were many try and error till I discover that to achieve PVO need to know the girl PMS and between the day 13 to 15 window after the PMS is the good time to intimate and PVO.

Besides both party have to prepare in order to achieve the result. Food a few days before you wanted to intimate you need to have rest. I will reduce my work load and I will bring the girl out for seafood especially crabs and for me prawns.

I do all these back door preparation without telling the girl. Whether she sense it or not I will never tell the girl. It sound troublesome but it worth that back door preparation.

Warning! she can be very addicted that in one day she may one at least two to three time intimating. My first experience gave me my result that the girl after the first round wanted another round that I have to tell her I will give you a good one after some rest.

The only homework that you need is to keep a constant note on the girl PMS because some girl PMS is not regular that why I put a window between 13 to 15 days after their PMS.

And of course never forget to make the girl more beautiful.

Above is my experience but whether it will work on you I don't know.

LOL. I think every gal’s horny period is different cos for my gal, it’s a few days before her menses. Her breasts would be swollen and she gets horny very easily.

On to food. Crabs for gals and prawns for guys. OMG!! I am very curious how you found this out cos this is the best-kept secret! To improve one’s “taohua” luck, gals should eat crabs (more specifically, crab’s roe) and guys should eat prawns (more specifically shells of prawns, or eat those dried shrimps that have their shells intact but you have to soak it in water to soften it before cooking). Well, there’s no secret really… the aphrodisiac in seafood is… *drum rolls*… zinc.

Preparation beforehand is very important too. A healthy and well-rested body will make sex more enjoyable. Plus, you will perform better.

Sex can become really dull and boring when you are doing it with the same gal, day-in-day-out, in the same place, in the same predictable sequences, in the same positions, with the same methods, etc… Spice things up by going to a different place/hotel/resort, or bring her overseas, or to a quick getaway in neighbouring countries or Sentosa, go for a couple spa treatment together, or if you can’t change the location: wine-and-dine her first, add music and different mood in the room, slow things up, speed things up, mix up the sequences, try new positions or stimulation methods, etc.

Remember how we get all sexcited in the office when we receive our gf’s sexy messages/pics and all we could do the whole day in the office is to think of bonking her the very moment we arrived home? Well, that works both ways. So find out what turns her on and do it – the anticipation is enough to make her wet.

Make love with her even before you make love with her – with all the preparations and anticipation… and make sure: she cums first. I always joke with my gal: I’d rather you get the gold medal and I get the silver medal… :)

deathnitez

22-08-2013, 05:33 PM

For my regular gal, yes, and she always get PVOs from me and I know she’s mine forever. She thinks I’m cocky but we both know we are so in sync that its extremely difficult for her to find a replacement. Hahaha.

Wow, how do you get your next sexxion with WLs in GL for free!?!?! Yes, gals get addicted to PVOs but I’m not gonna make WLs addicted to me – I don’t want free services or whatever more I can get from them LOL!

Yeah thats why the condom.... still even though they are WL or GL I still treat them as normal girls. :cool: Some times they can be very good tour guides for business trips and is free :D.

fallen.angel

23-08-2013, 10:59 AM

Back to the tall singer, CZ, at DC… after she bought me a birthday cake that night… another singer (let’s call her SG, who was with my buddy) sent me weird messages on wechat yesterday and after I sent them to another gal and Bro WB to decipher, confirmed that this singer liked me – despite me only hanging her flowers twice, $100 on each occasion. I showed Bro WB the details of the messages/incident and what prompted her to wechat me. So that made me ponder on what Bro WB have posted in the thread and I list a few points:

You flirt with another gal (SG) with the sole intention to get the attention of your target gal (CZ) – you will always succeed. Even when CZ always act cool and nonchalant, she would surprise me by getting me a cake – on my fourth/fifth visit to DC;

When your target gal shows interest in you, it raises your ‘status’ and the other gal gets jealous – she has unknowingly fallen for you.

Hmm… don’t know whether it made sense…

warbird

27-08-2013, 11:24 AM

Bro, I understand the importance of penetrative vaginal orgasms, sexual and emotional addiction...........not that I don’t practise or strive for it, but most times, its ST or GL for me, and you just want to relax and be pleasured, not giving the other party the orgasm of her lifetime.................... I also use to be able to make my gal cum just by oral+finger stimulation but she has grown immune to my attacks… she now only cum during penetrative sex but because our bodies are in sync (we always cum together).................

Oh, and on Monday night, we went to DC and I told the tall singer CZ it was my birthday. She went to buy a cake for me and we had the cake there at DC. Very sweet and kind of her. I was also shown Linda’s photo – one taken by her jie meis just when she came straight out of the showers, naked and without makeups. I must agree with the singers that she has natural beauty and she’s really sweet and she’s the most beautiful singer there.

Dear bro FA,

Yes, when we go for ST w/ either FLs or GL gals, we just want to relax n enjoy...no point giving any gals PVO unless you want a long term RS. BTW, over 95% of these gals fake their orgasms, although there hv been some noteworthy exceptions.

Do you hv Linda's nude photo? I hv not even seen her in person.

Cheers!

...................whenever the girl pvo they seems to go much crazy about me or something messaging me or keep saying missing me. Then my subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give, some even travel from overseas to come singapore to visit me hehe..........

Dear bro deathnitz,

Could u clarify what u meant by "subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give." How do u get FOC w/ GL legal gals?

Tks!

Thats the power of using 1 finger than a hand

A persistently hard didi is even more powerful haha...

these koreans r quite hot but looking at them carefully most of them have plastic surgeries so 4 me preferbly i look 4 taiwanese or sporeans... cos chinese still turn me on

You're right bro, most of these Korean gals hv had multiple plastic surgeries.

For these 风尘女子， plastic surgery is a small initial investments which may yield manyfold returns.

I'll give u a real life example of a $300 per shot PRC FL who improved her looks moderately w/ plastic surgery n "made good" or rather "hit pay dirt" by marrying a very rich young man in SG in 2010. She was 18, a singer in a small joint, when I BY-ed her briefly in 2009; later she offered to reduce her monthly allowance but I said no. I then upped her a number of times for $300 per shot, the last time in 2010, only months before she "struck gold" by marrying the rich young man. She has a daughter now. Despite her plastic surgery n her youth, she is in the lower 20% in terms of physical attractiveness among all my BAO-ees.

Cheers!

Haha for me there were many try and error till I discover that to achieve PVO need to know the girl PMS and between the day 13 to 15 window after the PMS is the good time to intimate and PVO.........

Warning! she can be very addicted that in one day she may one at least two to three time intimating....................

Above is my experience but whether it will work on you I don't know.

Dear bro airbrush,

Tks for sharing. Most gals can achieve PVO anytime in their menstrual cycle, although many of them r especially horny n orgasmic just before, during n after ovulation.

Ovulation for a human female always occurs 14 days BEFORE her menses, regardless of the length of her cycle. You could use an ovulation thermometer if her cycle length is irregular. She may not be ovulating.

Cheers!

For my regular gal, yes, and she always get PVOs from me and I know she’s mine forever. She thinks I’m cocky but we both know we are so in sync that its extremely difficult for her to find a replacement. Hahaha.

Wow, how do you get your next sexxion with WLs in GL for free!?!?! Yes, gals get addicted to PVOs but I’m not gonna make WLs addicted to me – I don’t want free services or whatever more I can get from them LOL!

Dear bro FA,

Yes, if ur gal gets regular PVO from u, she will never leave u willingly. But be careful, she could get violent if u dump her...

I first realized that PVO is distinctly different from all other types of orgasms only abt 2 yrs ago n I didn't fully realize its incredible addictive power until just one yr ago. I'll elaborate on this topic at a later date.

LOL. I think every gal’s horny period is different ................

Preparation beforehand is very important too. A healthy and well-rested body will make sex more enjoyable. Plus, you will perform better.

Sex can become really dull and boring when you are doing it with the same gal, day-in-day-out, in the same place...............

Make love with her even before you make love with her – with all the preparations and anticipation… and make sure: she cums first. I always joke with my gal: I’d rather you get the gold medal and I get the silver medal… :)

Tks for sharing bro.

Yes, every gal is different.

Actually, mental foreplay begins when a man meets the gal of his type for the very first time n is a continuous process as long as the RS is ongoing hahaha.

The most powerful sex organ in a girl is her mind...

PVO is so addictive because it is holistic n engages a girl's mind, body n sex organs...

Yeah thats why the condom.... still even though they are WL or GL I still treat them as normal girls...........Some times they can be very good tour guides for business trips and is free ..........

Dear bro deathnitz,

Yes, we should always treat every human being w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return.

But could u clarify the condom n FOC thing?

Tks!

Back to the tall singer, CZ, at DC… after she bought me a birthday cake that night… another singer (let’s call her SG, who was with my buddy) sent me weird messages on wechat yesterday and after I sent them to another gal and Bro WB to decipher, confirmed that this singer liked me – despite me only hanging her flowers twice, $100 on each occasion. I showed Bro WB the details of the messages/incident and what prompted her to wechat me. So that made me ponder on what Bro WB have posted in the thread and I list a few points:

You flirt with another gal (SG) with the sole intention to get the attention of your target gal (CZ) – you will always succeed. Even when CZ always act cool and nonchalant, she would surprise me by getting me a cake – on my fourth/fifth visit to DC;

When your target gal shows interest in you, it raises your ‘status’ and the other gal gets jealous – she has unknowingly fallen for you.

Hmm… don’t know whether it made sense…

Dear bro FA,

Well done! You're now quite a Casanova haha.

Too bad CZ has left SG, otherwise you could've fucked her regularly for very little. And if you give her regular PVO, watch out!

Like u, I hv had very little experience w/ singers.

IMHO, there r two approaches to getting singers. The big buck approach, by hanging lots of flowers at least initially, or various modifications of such approach, as practised by most customers, n your MO, the psychological approach, or shall I call the thinking man's strategic approach hahaha.

I remember you told me u went to DC once n CZ initially snubbed u. She didn't even look at u. But you were nonchalant, very relaxed n enjoyed urself w/ others. Do u know what CZ was thinking? This guy is a real man, he doesn't need me, he is unlike all the other customers who would surely be offended...later that nite, she came n became quite affectionate w/ u, right?

No, she has not fallen for u yet, but she is more attracted to u than all her other customers combined who had hung tens of thousands of dollars hahaha. BTW, the other singer is also attracted to u.

Pls keep in touch w/ CZ by Wechat n occasional phone calls. You could go to China n ask her to be ur tour guide for a wk or she could come to visit u in 6 months.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Weremonkey

27-08-2013, 01:51 PM

warbird

27-08-2013, 02:45 PM

Lots of wonderful information in this thread, I do have some questions though. This thread is mostly revolved around ktv girls hfj girls etc.. where there is money involved isnt the actual effect of these techniques somewhat skewed? how is it possible to accertain that the results are not directly related to monetary benefit? eg. a whore could say that a guy with a 3 inch dick gave her the best bang ever.

In a world where company is not purchased by money. will the techniques apply. As a person who is far short of the caliber of spending poweress from most of the postees. how would i even begin to get her attention?

Dear bro Weremonkey,

Tks for asking such excellent questions.

The psychological techniques work on every healthy girl/woman, WLs n non-WLs.

If you're unable to differentiate between real n fake orgasms, you better read up n learn from hands-on experience asap.

Yes, money is necessary to bed these girls. But the damage could be minimized. You could learn from bro FA who has spent very little n yet has got two singers vying for his attention haha.

I started this thread to discuss various methods of "pick up" to cut the friction cost of meeting girls. I hv met many girls, both here n in China, proposed BY n got accepted w/o having spent a penny. For various reasons, I hv consummated the "BY relationship" in less than 1/3 of cases haha.

BTW, I don't limit myself to KTV or HFJ gals in SG n PRC. Any unmarried gal of my type anywhere on planet earth is fair game. In some countries, my physical safety is my only concern which may deter me...

Money is a sensitive issue n a double-edged sword. Giving too much money can destroy attraction. Perhaps I'm old fashioned n outdated. But, IMHO, a real MAN should be a good provider n a bold protector of his women. Most importantly, he must be able to give them regular PVO n get them sexually n emotionally addicted to him. This IS the prerequiste for "true love," at least as far as women is concerned. Women r actually very simple n men r more complex hahaha.

There r men out there who believe their wife/GF/mistress/er nai r truly in love w/ them. They need to ask themselves only one question.

Have I given my women regular PVO?

If yes, congrats.

If no, their "true love" for u is suspect n may fade w/ time. You can write it down.

BTW, the role of men really hasn't changed that much in the last 50,000 yrs. It's in the genes of both men n women, in our collective subconscious minds. "Emancipation" of women n "gender equality" in advanced countries (including SG) have upset this relationship n have resulted in high divorce rates n misery for all parties. It's has been a lose-lose-lose situation.

Cheers!

Bro WB

newbieboy

27-08-2013, 03:39 PM

Dear bro Weremonkey,

Tks for asking such excellent questions.

The psychological techniques work on every healthy girl/woman, WLs n non-WLs.

If you're unable to differentiate between real n fake orgasms, you better read up n learn from hands-on experience asap.

Yes, money is necessary to bed these girls. But the damage could be minimized. You could learn from bro FA who has spent very little n yet has got two singers vying for his attention haha.

I started this thread to discuss various methods of "pick up" to cut the friction cost of meeting girls. I hv met many girls, both here n in China, proposed BY n got accepted w/o having spent a penny. For various reasons, I hv consummated the "BY relationship" in less than 1/3 of cases haha.

BTW, I don't limit myself to KTV or HFJ gals in SG n PRC. Any unmarried gal of my type anywhere on planet earth is fair game. In some countries, my physical safety is my only concern which may deter me...

Money is a sensitive issue n a double-edged sword. Giving too much money can destroy attraction. Perhaps I'm old fashioned n outdated. But, IMHO, a real MAN should be a good provider n a bold protector of his women. Most importantly, he must be able to give them regular PVO n get them sexually n emotionally addicted to him. This IS the prerequiste for "true love," at least as far as women is concerned. Women r actually very simple n men r more complex hahaha.

There r men out there who believe their wife/GF/mistress/er nai r truly in love w/ them. They need to ask themselves only one question.

Have I given my women regular PVO?

If yes, congrats.

If no, their "true love" for u is suspect n may fade w/ time. You can write it down.

BTW, the role of men really hasn't changed that much in the last 50,000 yrs. It's in the genes of both men n women, in our collective subconscious minds. "Emancipation" of women n "gender equality" in advanced countries (including SG) have upset this relationship n have resulted in high divorce rates n misery for all parties. It's has been a lose-lose-lose situation.

Cheers!

Bro WB

enlightening as always bro :D

Weremonkey

27-08-2013, 04:55 PM

fallen.angel

29-08-2013, 02:22 PM

Dear Bro WB

Thanks for the reply. There is no menace in my questions and i hope there is no offence. Im asking in a purely academic point of view. Im truely impressed by transforming a what has been percieved to be an art and breaking it down into a science.

lets assume we are talking about a pure player prespective. No dollar involvement. So not talking about BY etc. My assumption is that it will be next to impossible for a person whose financial output is next to nothing. to have almost a next to nothing chance of getting anywhere.

any advise on overcoming this?

hmm… if you don’t give anything, how do you expect to get anything in return? A player who doesn’t pay $? Maybe not at my level. But even if you date a gal or your gf, you need to spend some money ya?

For the past 2 nights, I have been going out with a Korean model who is also a travel and food presenter. Nope, I didn’t picked her up at Embassy. She’s been here before and she is here again on holiday and we have been having dinners, drinks, clubbing and KTV (K-Box) and I’m meeting her again tonight before she flys back.

What I’m trying to say is that when you go out, you have to spend money ya? To me, its fair deal and its cheap – its better than hanging flowers to dancers or singers cos you get their attention to whole night. I know some rich people pay KTV gals $500 just to have afternoon tea.

What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company. Why would she want to drag you out every night? She has many friends in Singapore too but the fact that she picked you to spend every night in Singapore means you must have done something right. And no, I didn’t pay her for her company – only foot the bills for dinners, K-Box, and my own drinks (Wed nights are ladies night)..

I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent... and most importantly to enjoy yourself

Weremonkey

30-08-2013, 03:55 PM

hmm… if you don’t give anything, how do you expect to get anything in return? A player who doesn’t pay $? Maybe not at my level. But even if you date a gal or your gf, you need to spend some money ya?

For the past 2 nights, I have been going out with a Korean model who is also a travel and food presenter. Nope, I didn’t picked her up at Embassy. She’s been here before and she is here again on holiday and we have been having dinners, drinks, clubbing and KTV (K-Box) and I’m meeting her again tonight before she flys back.

What I’m trying to say is that when you go out, you have to spend money ya? To me, its fair deal and its cheap – its better than hanging flowers to dancers or singers cos you get their attention to whole night. I know some rich people pay KTV gals $500 just to have afternoon tea.

What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company. Why would she want to drag you out every night? She has many friends in Singapore too but the fact that she picked you to spend every night in Singapore means you must have done something right. And no, I didn’t pay her for her company – only foot the bills for dinners, K-Box, and my own drinks (Wed nights are ladies night)..

I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent... and most importantly to enjoy yourself

Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?

DO_YOU_BJ

30-08-2013, 04:02 PM

Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?
Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
1) A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
2) A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
3) If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can't really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$

Hope this helps

fallen.angel

30-08-2013, 04:10 PM

Dear bro FA,

Yes, when we go for ST w/ either FLs or GL gals, we just want to relax n enjoy...no point giving any gals PVO unless you want a long term RS. BTW, over 95% of these gals fake their orgasms, although there hv been some noteworthy exceptions.

Do you hv Linda's nude photo? I hv not even seen her in person.

Cheers!

Dear bro FA,

Well done! You're now quite a Casanova haha.

Too bad CZ has left SG, otherwise you could've fucked her regularly for very little. And if you give her regular PVO, watch out!

Like u, I hv had very little experience w/ singers.

IMHO, there r two approaches to getting singers. The big buck approach, by hanging lots of flowers at least initially, or various modifications of such approach, as practised by most customers, n your MO, the psychological approach, or shall I call the thinking man's strategic approach hahaha.

I remember you told me u went to DC once n CZ initially snubbed u. She didn't even look at u. But you were nonchalant, very relaxed n enjoyed urself w/ others. Do u know what CZ was thinking? This guy is a real man, he doesn't need me, he is unlike all the other customers who would surely be offended...later that nite, she came n became quite affectionate w/ u, right?

No, she has not fallen for u yet, but she is more attracted to u than all her other customers combined who had hung tens of thousands of dollars hahaha. BTW, the other singer is also attracted to u.

Pls keep in touch w/ CZ by Wechat n occasional phone calls. You could go to China n ask her to be ur tour guide for a wk or she could come to visit u in 6 months.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dear Bro WB

Like you, I’m also a lao chee ko pek! Hahaha

I don’t see the point of hanging flowers actually. I mean, what do you get in return? So I always want to limit my spending.

Yes, CZ ignored me once, or maybe she was busy with another customer, I don’t know, but all I know is that I have to be cool and show her that I’m having a great time without her. And I did. That night, when she finally came over, she asked me to touch her hips and she even grab my hand to touch her hips/waist. If you portrait a needy image, then you are out. LOL

So in a way, its not how much flowers you hang. I guess, deep down inside these singers, they will think those men who hang a lot and get nothing in return are really stupid.

Anyways, yeah, we still keep in touch via wechat.

fallen.angel

30-08-2013, 04:20 PM

Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?

Aiyoh, you go to HFJ and expect to get attention from the singers without hanging flowers? Can... if you look like Lee-Hom Wang, etc...

Like what Bro Do_You_BJ said, they are here for only 1 reason. Also, I've asked a gal to return as a singer which she rejected. She told me: "you think its so easy to be a singer? Who doesn't want to have $10K+ flowers every night? But the sacrifices are there" And I scolded her - come here find a bf who supports you financially also don't want, you siao ah!" Some guys cannot think straight and some gals also cannot think straight. Those who can will make money.

Recently, the Korean model who went out with me 3 nights in a row also hinted that she likes Chanel. But I ignored her lah. All these gals have a purpose lah. If its not cash, its in-kind. But I never give. She's coming again in next month - let's see if she will look for me again. LOL

Weremonkey

30-08-2013, 04:28 PM

Aiyoh, you go to HFJ and expect to get attention from the singers without hanging flowers? Can... if you look like Lee-Hom Wang, etc...

Like what Bro Do_You_BJ said, they are here for only 1 reason. Also, I've asked a gal to return as a singer which she rejected. She told me: "you think its so easy to be a singer? Who doesn't want to have $10K+ flowers every night? But the sacrifices are there" And I scolded her - come here find a bf who supports you financially also don't want, you siao ah!" Some guys cannot think straight and some gals also cannot think straight. Those who can will make money.

Recently, the Korean model who went out with me 3 nights in a row also hinted that she likes Chanel. But I ignored her lah. All these gals have a purpose lah. If its not cash, its in-kind. But I never give. She's coming again in next month - let's see if she will look for me again. LOL

Ok i got it. basically the answer is there is no way. BTW im curious. what does going out mean? does it imply a intimate physical relationship as well?

fallen.angel

30-08-2013, 04:40 PM

Ok i got it. basically the answer is there is no way. BTW im curious. what does going out mean? does it imply a intimate physical relationship as well?

I won't say no way. I'm just not there yet, LOL

Going out means going out like paktor, with her arms around mine.

Is she up-able, yes, from the way she answered certain questions, but I have not taken that step yet and so I do not know the cost involved.

saabking

30-08-2013, 09:28 PM

What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company. Why would she want to drag you out every night? She has many friends in Singapore too but the fact that she picked you to spend every night in Singapore means you must have done something right. And no, I didn’t pay her for her company – only foot the bills for dinners, K-Box, and my own drinks (Wed nights are ladies night)..

I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent... and most importantly to enjoy yourself

Yup - value for money is the deal. Spend wisely..but more importantly..getting her emotionally attached = be it through PVO or other means would be great. So that when she's happy she want you to be the first one to share her joy; when she's sad she want you to be the first one to give her a shoulder to cry on; and when she's angry she want you to be the first to calm her down and make her laugh...so that she cannot live without you ..because she need to share every single emotion with you..LOL

SocialCircle

31-08-2013, 07:38 AM

Yup - value for money is the deal. Spend wisely..but more importantly..getting her emotionally attached = be it through PVO or other means would be great. So that when she's happy she want you to be the first one to share her joy; when she's sad she want you to be the first one to give her a shoulder to cry on; and when she's angry she want you to be the first to calm her down and make her laugh...so that she cannot live without you ..because she need to share every single emotion with you..LOLNot really picking up a ktv gal outside a ktv but actually went to a ktv n got this viet sat wif me. Found out she earned abt $2k sing, n she dun other stuffs unless she likes the person. Sometimes I just jokingly said haven't tried sex on beach n she volunteer to do it. However the thing is she gets angry when I go other ktv or go out wif other ktv gals. Dun like her dominating figure so just thought of ways to make her tulan me n let go. I just don't have the guts to let her fall deeper into "she is not my gf but act like wife" relationship. I also scare she will get berserk one day if I leave her.
So wonder how to let gal know this is just "companionship".

warbird

01-09-2013, 05:06 PM

QUOTE=newbieboy;9589090]enlightening as always bro :D[/QUOTE]

Dear bro newbieboy.

Actually, you're the enlightened one! I hv learned so much from a young man like u. Remember our discussion on true love?

Best,

Bro WB

Dear Bro WB

Thanks for the reply. There is no menace in my questions and i hope there is no offence. Im asking in a purely academic point of view. Im truely impressed by transforming a what has been percieved to be an art and breaking it down into a science.

lets assume we are talking about a pure player prespective. No dollar involvement. So not talking about BY etc. My assumption is that it will be next to impossible for a person whose financial output is next to nothing. to have almost a next to nothing chance of getting anywhere.

any advise on overcoming this?

Dear bro Weremonkey,

I really enjoy answering ur questions.

Getting ur dream girl sexually n emotionally addicted to u is most gratifying, especially if she had rejected u repeatedly in the past n u thought somehow she was "out of ur league," hahaha.

What do u mean by "financial output is next to nothing"? Very, very low income or no income?

To hv long term successful RS w/ women, a man needs to hv confidence, masculinity, ability to make women feel safe n secure, character n emotional control/self mastery. Of course his ability to give them PVO is a prerequisite. If u hv the above MANLY qualities, women will be very attracted to you. And those same attributes will make u financially secure, it's a matter of time bro. So cultivate those attributes n be patient n persistent.

Cheers!

Bro WB

hmm… if you don’t give anything, how do you expect to get anything in return? A player who doesn’t pay $? Maybe not at my level. But even if you date a gal or your gf, you need to spend some money ya?

For the past 2 nights, I have been going out with a Korean model who is also a travel and food presenter. Nope, I didn’t picked her up at Embassy. She’s been here before and she is here again on holiday and we have been having dinners, drinks, clubbing and KTV (K-Box) and I’m meeting her again tonight before she flys back........................................

What I’m saying is, you have to fun enough so that the gal actually enjoys your company and you, hers. You have to be very confident to be comfortable before you can start to enjoy each others company...............................

I think the key point (about money) is spend wisely to get the most bang for the buck/mileage for your money spent... and most importantly to enjoy yourself

Dear bro FA,

I couldn't agree w/ u more.

A man should be a provider n protector of his women.

Enjoy urself bro...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Good point. but i wasnt refering to the expenses involved in taking a girl out that is naturally quite a given that guys do pay. I do specifically mean the flowers such. Is it possible to get the attention of a HFJ girl without hanging flower?

Dear bro Weremonkey,

Possible but quite difficult, and it will take time and effort.

Try to connect w/ her outside n far away from KTV/HFJ.

If she tells u that she is on visitor pass, student visa or WP, it's great news, play along w/ her...

If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.

What u do next depends on how much you like her.

Cheers!

Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
1) A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
2) A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
3) If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can't really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$

Hope this helps

Dear Mr Chairman,

Tks for the info. Of course all singers r here to make as much money as possible. Most of them need to find at least one strong supporter/lao gong/BF/patron to provide for their basic needs including monthly flowers, etc.

Dear Bro WB

Like you, I’m also a lao chee ko pek! Hahaha

I don’t see the point of hanging flowers actually. I mean, what do you get in return? So I always want to limit my spending.

Yes, CZ ignored me once, or maybe she was busy with another customer, I don’t know, but all I know is that I have to be cool and show her that I’m having a great time without her. And I did. That night, when she finally came over, she asked me to touch her hips and she even grab my hand to touch her hips/waist. If you portrait a needy image, then you are out. LOL

So in a way, its not how much flowers you hang. I guess, deep down inside these singers, they will think those men who hang a lot and get nothing in return are really stupid.

Anyways, yeah, we still keep in touch via wechat.

Dear bro FA,

You're no lao chee ko pek. You're a tall, young n handsome man compared w/ me haha. And you're such a romantic gentleman whereas I'm Mode One, so blunt n direct...it saves time though.

Remember the pretty n sexy MILF we met next to the stage at LV 5th FL on 29 Jan? To make a long story short, she said no to ST, so I BY-ed her. Yes, just like that. I didn't even book her that night.

Singer CZ was highly attracted to you. You exhibited "don't give a damn" attitude. You wanted (to fuck) her, but u didn't need her.

Cheers!

Aiyoh, you go to HFJ and expect to get attention from the singers without hanging flowers? Can... if you look like Lee-Hom Wang, etc...

Like what Bro Do_You_BJ said, they are here for only 1 reason.............

Recently, the Korean model who went out with me 3 nights in a row also hinted that she likes Chanel. But I ignored her lah. All these gals have a purpose lah. If its not cash, its in-kind. But I never give. She's coming again in next month - let's see if she will look for me again. LOL

Dear bro FA,

No use even if he looks like 潘安。。。

A Chanel handbag? It's 5-7K at least. Tell her u will take care of her AFTER she has become ur woman haha.

Ok i got it. basically the answer is there is no way. BTW im curious. what does going out mean? does it imply a intimate physical relationship as well?

Bro, pls see my previous post. Be Mode One. You need to hv very thick skin n enjoy repeated rejections.

There is one other way. Become her 小狼狗 and she will pay u!

I won't say no way. I'm just not there yet, LOL

Going out means going out like paktor, with her arms around mine.

Is she up-able, yes, from the way she answered certain questions, but I have not taken that step yet and so I do not know the cost involved.

I gather that the Korean model is a non-WL. Never ask for sex. Just make love to her. Buy the bag after she has become ur woman.

Yup - value for money is the deal. Spend wisely..but more importantly..getting her emotionally attached = be it through PVO or other means would be great. So that when she's happy she want you to be the first one to share her joy; when she's sad she want you to be the first one to give her a shoulder to cry on; and when she's angry she want you to be the first to calm her down and make her laugh...so that she cannot live without you ..because she need to share every single emotion with you..LOL

Dear bro saabking,

You're talking abt a gal who is emotionally addicted to a man. Hopefully she is also sexually addicted to him.

IMHO, a gal can be emotionally addicted to man w/o being sexually addicted, but if she is sexually addicted, she will also be emotionally addicted hahaha. Such is the power of sexual addiction.

Not really picking up a ktv gal outside a ktv but actually went to a ktv n got this viet sat wif me. Found out she earned abt $2k sing, n she dun other stuffs unless she likes the person. Sometimes I just jokingly said haven't tried sex on beach n she volunteer to do it. However the thing is she gets angry when I go other ktv or go out wif other ktv gals. Dun like her dominating figure so just thought of ways to make her tulan me n let go. I just don't have the guts to let her fall deeper into "she is not my gf but act like wife" relationship. I also scare she will get berserk one day if I leave her.
So wonder how to let gal know this is just "companionship".

Hi bro SocialCircle,

Pls tell us ur RS w/ the Viet gal. Hv u had sex w/ her? Hv you given her PVO?

Cheers!

Bro WB

SocialCircle

01-09-2013, 06:00 PM

Hi bro SocialCircle,

Pls tell us ur RS w/ the Viet gal. Hv u had sex w/ her? Hv you given her PVO?

Cheers!

Bro WB[/QUOTE]

Hi bro Warbird,
I didn't have sex wif her. Just frenching nia. She emphasizes she like me not love. She ask me she beautiful or sexy n I say sexy n she disappointed n tell me she want me to answer she beautiful. Dun know wat psychological test she conducting.

NotMyRealName

02-09-2013, 10:00 AM

bro SocialCircle,
You should also try to play your mind game onto her, keep it fun, dun let it be one way street but also be confident and flirt around like give attention to other gals in the joint, see how she reacts.

Anyway, you're there to have fun, not to play their game, but get them to play yours.

Weremonkey

02-09-2013, 03:31 PM

Hi Guys Really appreicate your replies and feedback.

Weremonkey

02-09-2013, 03:37 PM

Hi Bro WB with regards to your point.

If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.

I couldnt agree more. I always try to distance myself from the whole scene. eg. with thai girls i do not speak in thai with them. Its is a big flashing Danger warning sign to them that the guys is a potential player. But it helps that i actually dont know how to speak the language

warbird

04-09-2013, 11:12 AM

Hi bro Warbird,
I didn't have sex wif her. Just frenching nia. She emphasizes she like me not love. She ask me she beautiful or sexy n I say sexy n she disappointed n tell me she want me to answer she beautiful. Dun know wat psychological test she conducting.

Dear bro SocialCircle,

Just make love to her.

bro SocialCircle,
You should also try to play your mind game onto her, keep it fun, dun let it be one way street but also be confident and flirt around like give attention to other gals in the joint, see how she reacts.

Anyway, you're there to have fun, not to play their game, but get them to play yours.

Dear bro NMRN,

Good advice. Take the initiative. Lead her...

Hi Guys Really appreicate your replies and feedback.

You're most welcome!

Hi Bro WB with regards to your point.

If she says she is a singer at XYZ HFJ n asks u to see her there, act blur n say you never go such places. Get her ctc no n Wechat.

I couldnt agree more. I always try to distance myself from the whole scene. eg. with thai girls i do not speak in thai with them. Its is a big flashing Danger warning sign to them that the guys is a potential player. But it helps that i actually dont know how to speak the language

Dear bro WMK,

You're doing well.

BTW, I hv seen many tall, beautiful, sexy n fair Thai gals in Bangkok n Changmai, but not in SG.

Likewise, thousands of very pretty SYTs r waiting for us in China. I hv made ctc w/ dozens of them, but very very few r willing to come to SG. They want to be ST-ed or BY-ed over there.

It's sad that we SG men don't even hv the chance to taste prime meat or abalone here. It's sadder that we often fight over scraps...

Best,

Bro WB

PowerTAN_P_W

04-09-2013, 04:33 PM

KTV girls are afterall, still girls. It's natural for all girls to keep looking at Power Tan, the man with 'seh' wherever he goes. :cool:

Rgds,
Ah Wee

saabking

04-09-2013, 10:16 PM

Likewise, thousands of very pretty SYTs r waiting for us in China. I hv made ctc w/ dozens of them, but very very few r willing to come to SG. They want to be ST-ed or BY-ed over there.

wah..thousand? can intro a couple? what is the going market rate for BY? Thanks in advance

warbird

08-09-2013, 04:07 PM

wah..thousand? can intro a couple? what is the going market rate for BY? Thanks in advance

Dear bro saabking,

Yes, very many.

I hv made ctc w/ dozens of them. Some do ST n some only want BY.

When will u be going? Which city?

The market rate for BY for a SYT in China is 10 to 50K RMB a month, much more if she is a model, pageant queen or actress of some repute.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Loving_Dickhead

09-09-2013, 04:37 PM

Yeah indeed the truth, the Flower King of HFJs has spoken. :D
Not only singers, even dancers and flower gals going around to entertain you and your wallets too.

Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
1) A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
2) A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
3) If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can't really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$

Hope this helps

DO_YOU_BJ

09-09-2013, 11:41 PM

KTV girls are afterall, still girls. It's natural for all girls to keep looking at Power Tan, the man with 'seh' wherever he goes. :cool:

Rgds,
Ah Wee

Ah Wee ah......Ah Wee, ur SEH post here & there ok la, come to this thread let go ur bs here, the only SEH u hv I can tell u is....ur TAO NAO BO HO SEH
I saw ur vid abt ur SEH today, PowerTAN_P_W
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfOCLxGk1f8&feature=c4-overview&list=UUAaiKcIfHEzUZl34U980sNA

deathnitez

12-09-2013, 05:34 AM

Always remember y these girls r here in the 1st place. Make money.
Understand how they make money too.
Let me help in this area.
1) A singer in a HFJ makes money by going on stage to sing & customers hang flower. Before & after singing, she goes around tables to do her PR thingy to try to gain more flowers when she sings
2) A singer locks on a target to ensure she has continuous support from her customer/customers by having lunch, dinner, supper & sleeping with the customer/customers.
3) If she creates a void by not keeping her customer/customers entertained before and after working hours, how is she going to survive? She may still get some loose flowers but those can't really help her achieve her main reason for being here. $$$$$$$$$

Hope this helps

Yeah agree to a certain extend. But there is always a way to make this girls bent them to your will lol. Did to some, I have to admit initiately you gonna put some investment but of cause with a limit. Then later get them to fall for you by all your methods and you will be suprise how this girls still needs TLC and sometimes they themselves can be quite generous. Play or be Played is up to you. But for some reason when i wake up this morning i felt guilty with all the girls I had before whether WL or normal girls. Just a weird feeling....:cool: my 2 cents worth....

jaikun199O

12-09-2013, 10:10 AM

quite a lame way to do so on a friday nite.. probably go back hm pcc..

fallen.angel

12-09-2013, 11:22 AM

Yeah agree to a certain extend. But there is always a way to make this girls bent them to your will lol. Did to some, I have to admit initiately you gonna put some investment but of cause with a limit. Then later get them to fall for you by all your methods and you will be suprise how this girls still needs TLC and sometimes they themselves can be quite generous. Play or be Played is up to you. But for some reason when i wake up this morning i felt guilty with all the girls I had before whether WL or normal girls. Just a weird feeling....:cool: my 2 cents worth....

I still agree with Bro DYBJ…

When it comes to singers, it’s just a transaction – she wants your continuous support, you want her in bed. Who is in the losing end? Who can tell? If money is no object to you and you can throw it like its nothing, good for you. If your initial investment is low (relatively speaking), good for you. But if you invest your feelings for them and gets hurt in the end, who lose?

Bro WB has asked me to post my story on the top earning singer LL at DC which I had told him but I’ll have to find time to post it. Suffice to say that even if you throw $100K per month to your gf singer, she can still run away with another (better) guy. According to Bro WB, its becos the ex-bf didn’t give her PVOs… but I’m not totally convinced… no one will know but maybe I’ll try to suss out more info from the singer who has decided to ‘lock in’ on me, LL's best friend…

Not long ago, there was a singer at DC who cheated a customer for millions. Sing Dollars. And ran away. The wife and children went up to DC to cry foul but what could they possibly salvage?

DO_YOU_BJ

12-09-2013, 05:12 PM

But for some reason when i wake up this morning i felt guilty with all the girls I had before whether WL or normal girls. Just a weird feeling....:cool: my 2 cents worth....
When engaging in this arena, this statement of urs bro, say alot abt where u stand. Be very weary of ur compassion, it'll be the death of u if not in check;) Make no mistake, u won't get back 1% of this guilt from a WL.

DO_YOU_BJ

12-09-2013, 05:15 PM

I still agree with Bro DYBJ…

When it comes to singers, it’s just a transaction – she wants your continuous support, you want her in bed.

$$$$ is the key to anything in the nitescene bro FA. Well said. Such stories r nottin new. I once posted abt a similar story but it happened in LP not DC.
End of the day, if one cannot get into his head 欢场无真情，环场无真爱，instead instill in his head that "HE's IS DIFFERENT" 99.99% 死路一条

fallen.angel

12-09-2013, 05:43 PM

$$$$ is the key to anything in the nitescene bro FA. Well said. Such stories r nottin new. I once posted abt a similar story but it happened in LP not DC.
End of the day, if one cannot get into his head 欢场无真情，环场无真爱，instead instill in his head that "HE's IS DIFFERENT" 99.99% 死路一条

Exactly, Bro DYBJ! So I don’t understand why even a tinge of guilt or remorse when it comes to WL or singers. You mean to say you felt like you have cheated them? Careful, for they can sense this “guilt” like a shark would to a drop of blood in the ocean and then they will strike.

LL was the top-earner in DC. Worst singer there, but the prettiest. She left a few days ago. Me and Bro WB have spent many posts on her. But Bro WB wants me to tell the story.

LL had a bf who pays her $100K a month while still allowing her to work. He also hangs flowers for her most nights. One month before LL left, she dumped her ex-bf for another guy. The 2 guys quarrelled and fought at DC. Boss can only shake his head cos on one hand, the ex is a relative, on the other hand the new beau is a big customer he doesn’t want to offend. It got so bad that LL didn’t have the xia dang show like all other singers cos he was afraid they would fight and make a mess of the place.

After LL went back, the ex flew to China to look for her but the new beau went there before him. Understandably, the ex couldn’t find her in China and kept calling back to the singers (LL’s jie meis) to find her. Too bad. The new couple are enjoying their honeymoon.

Now, unbeknownst to both guys, LL kept a secret stash of money. Before she left, she and her jie meis managed to remit part of it to China. Yet, she was still stuck with half that stash in Singapore and her good jie mei enlisted my help to remit for her. Apparently, there was a ceiling to how much a PRC could remit money out of Singapore.

So the question is this – it wouldn’t be a problem if this pile of cash is given to her by either the ex or current bf. But the fact that they do not know of it says a lot. I didn’t probe further because it was very obvious. But I will ask again since Bro WB wanted me to. Hehehe…

DO_YOU_BJ

12-09-2013, 05:53 PM

Always same story diff actors different stage only. History being replayed over n over again. Word of advice, since u helping them, no loose ends......there is no loyalty from these people......words travel faster than the wind in the nitescene. Careful bro FA

fallen.angel

12-09-2013, 06:18 PM

warbird

13-09-2013, 02:11 PM

Good afternoon!

Wow! So many posts by so many esteemed bros in the last few days.

Thanks so much for ur keen observations n insights.

Cheers to all!

Bro WB

Yeah indeed the truth, the Flower King of HFJs has spoken...
Not only singers, even dancers and flower gals going around to entertain you and your wallets too.

The poor from PRC r here to make money.

On the other hand, there r more n more rich PRC people coming here to spend and/or park their money hahaha.

Ah Wee ah......Ah Wee, ur SEH post here & there ok la, come to this thread let go ur bs here, the only SEH u hv I can tell u is....ur TAO NAO BO HO SEH
I saw ur vid abt ur SEH today, PowerTAN_P_W
................

Tks Mr. Chairman, great video!!

Which ktv is the best and cheapest?

The best won't be the cheapest, unless u pick them up outside...sometimes inside too haha.

To me, TAM joints r still the best place to meet a SYT of my type. It can be free if u hang around the valet parking area, outside the lifts n approach every girl u fancy. Get their names, hp n tell them you'll book them later...

I met bro FA at the valet area a couple of yrs ago. While I was talking to him, I saw a tall n fair girl walking towards the lifts n I rushed to approach her n got her details. Didn't follow up as she looked a bit old on closeup.

Alternatively, take the lift to whichever floor u like, tell the person who greets u that you're looking for a friend who is supposed to be inside...then pretend u couldn't find ur friend n just go to the toilet. Approach any girl u fancy along the way hahaha.

If a lao chee ko pek can do it, anyone else can also. Be Mode One. It saves time n money.

Yeah agree to a certain extend. But there is always a way to make this girls bent them to your will lol.........................But for some reason when i wake up this morning i felt guilty with all the girls I had before whether WL or normal girls. Just a weird feeling.... my 2 cents worth....

Sometimes I also feel the same guilt.. It's just a matter of prioritizing your needs and then asking yourself - is it worth it??

Bros, feeling guilt for what? Be a badass. Pls see Mr. Chairman aka bro DYBJ's posts below.

quite a lame way to do so on a friday nite.. probably go back hm pcc..

Still PCC?

I still agree with Bro DYBJ…

When it comes to singers, it’s just a transaction – she wants your continuous support, you want her in bed. Who is in the losing end? ................

Bro WB has asked me to post my story on the top earning singer LL at DC which I had told him but I’ll have to find time to post it. Suffice to say that even if you throw $100K per month to your gf singer, she can still run away with another (better) guy. According to Bro WB, its becos the ex-bf didn’t give her PVOs… but I’m not totally convinced… no one will know but maybe I’ll try to suss out more info from the singer who has decided to ‘lock in’ on me, LL's best friend….................

Dear bro FA,

Tks for ur post.

I'm intrigued by the eye-popping damage of 100K a month to fuck a DC singer named LL.

Merely just a commercial transaction that's all..

Definitely.

When engaging in this arena, this statement of urs bro, say alot abt where u stand. Be very weary of ur compassion, it'll be the death of u if not in check;) Make no mistake, u won't get back 1% of this guilt from a WL.

$$$$ is the key to anything in the nitescene bro FA. Well said. Such stories r nottin new. I once posted abt a similar story but it happened in LP not DC.
End of the day, if one cannot get into his head 欢场无真情，环场无真爱，instead instill in his head that "HE's IS DIFFERENT" 99.99% 死路一条

Dear Mr. Chairman,

Great advice. I always remember what u said...

Bro when u set up opera stage, sell me your tickets, I want to see...........

Great drama. Great lessons too.

Exactly, Bro DYBJ! So I don’t understand why even a tinge of guilt or remorse when it comes to WL or singers............

LL was the top-earner in DC. Worst singer there, but the prettiest. She left a few days ago. Me and Bro WB have spent many posts on her. But Bro WB wants me to tell the story.

LL had a bf who pays her $100K a month while still allowing her to work. He also hangs flowers for her most nights. One month before LL left, she dumped her ex-bf for another guy. The 2 guys quarrelled and fought at DC. Boss can only shake his head cos on one hand, the ex is a relative, on the other hand the new beau is a big customer he doesn’t want to offend. It got so bad that LL didn’t have the xia dang show like all other singers cos he was afraid they would fight and make a mess of the place.

After LL went back, the ex flew to China to look for her but the new beau went there before him. Understandably, the ex couldn’t find her in China and kept calling back to the singers (LL’s jie meis) to find her. Too bad. The new couple are enjoying their honeymoon.

Now, unbeknownst to both guys, LL kept a secret stash of money. Before she left, she and her jie meis managed to remit part of it to China. Yet, she was still stuck with half that stash in Singapore and her good jie mei enlisted my help to remit for her. Apparently, there was a ceiling to how much a PRC could remit money out of Singapore.

So the question is this – it wouldn’t be a problem if this pile of cash is given to her by either the ex or current bf. But the fact that they do not know of it says a lot. I didn’t probe further because it was very obvious. But I will ask again since Bro WB wanted me to. Hehehe…

Dear bro FA,

Tks for the interesting story. It's like a soap opera.

I don't hv the good fortune of meeting LL, she looks so so in the pic u showed me. Perhaps she is very pretty in person.

There r valuable lessons to be learnt here.

Firstly, I'm not convinced that she received 100K a month plus the most intense PVOs from her ex BF. Why? She dumped him for the same amt of support from the new BF. When a man has given a girl regular intense PVOs which are anchored to him, the bonding n addiction r very strong, like cocaine addiction. Yes, I could understand if she dumped him for much more money, but still she won't avoid him like a plague haha.

Secondly, her ex BF was frantic like a little boy after he was dumped by LL. It shows that he has little power in the 'relationship' cuz he thinks he doesn't deserve her. He is desperate n needy, which is very repulsive to her. He thinks somehow she is THE SPECIAL ONE n that he may never get another gal as desirable as LL.

He has zero self mastery and he doesn't behave like a man who can give any women the most intense PVOs.

I still don't get it. Doesn't he know that there r literally thousands of SYTs in China, prettier n younger than LL, waiting for him? Did he kena Gong Tao?

Pls find out more abt the new BF as it could shed light on this interesting little drama.

BTW, don't forget to charge a very hefty fee for remitting the ill-gotten cash for LL. You're a kind soul as I won't do it even if my cut is 50%.

Wise words indeed from BJ giving Master:..............

Thanks and appreciate your reminder, Bro DYBJ!

I prefer calling him the BJ Master.. to give and to accept.. works BOTH ways for him..............

Dear bros,

We should never forget the sayings of Chairman DYBJ haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

saabking

13-09-2013, 10:09 PM

He has zero self mastery and he doesn't behave like a man who can give any women the most intense PVOs.

Bro WB

yup..well said..zero self mastery..

Self mastery is giving your gal multiple Os..and you don't even have to shoot a single shot. :D

Just got a score of 5-0 the other day :p

Just embark on a more challenging self mastery journey - will share in time to come..meanwhile..stay cool and always remember the importance of confidence and mastery

tomtan123

13-09-2013, 10:12 PM

I did try picking up girls outside KTV and did hit the jackpot:D

ExBro

15-09-2013, 10:03 PM

Any bro still looking for a nice nest to house their MMs.

Discreet Brand new studios near Novena, only $2000 - 2500.

I can also help u find another bro for ur MMs to flat share cos rooms are large enough for 2 queen bed.

Interested PM me!

warbird

16-09-2013, 11:48 AM

yup..well said..zero self mastery..

Self mastery is giving your gal multiple Os..and you don't even have to shoot a single shot. :D

Just got a score of 5-0 the other day :p

Just embark on a more challenging self mastery journey - will share in time to come..meanwhile..stay cool and always remember the importance of confidence and mastery

Hi bro saabking,

Congrats to u!!

Excellent emotional control n self mastery is THE most masculine trait, highly attractive to all healthy heterosexual women.

It's said that John D. Rockefeller, the world's first billionaire whose estimated net wealth in today's dollars is USD 350 billlion, had formidable emotional control. http://www.amazon.com/Titan-The-Life-John-Rockefeller/dp/1400077303

Pls update us on ur incredible journey...

An occasional pointer would be appreciated.

Thanks again,

Bro WB

I did try picking up girls outside KTV and did hit the jackpot:D

Hi bro tomtan,

Ths for ur post. A more detailed FR would be appreciated.

Any bro still looking for a nice nest to house their MMs.

Discreet Brand new studios near Novena, only $2000 - 2500.

I can also help u find another bro for ur MMs to flat share cos rooms are large enough for 2 queen bed.

Interested PM me!

Hi bro ExBro,

A bit far for me. Anything closer to Jalan Besar, CBD, Bugis or River Valley area?

PM me pls.

Cheers!

Bro WB

deathnitez

19-09-2013, 06:28 AM

yeah lol guess you are right bro wb lol. :cool: tonight i gonna have fun again anyway have fun all bros :D

fallen.angel

25-09-2013, 04:08 PM

Bro WB has asked me to post an update on DC’s former top earning singer – LL.

LL has gone home. She dumped her ex-bf but latest info is that they are back together again. That means LL dumped the current one and got back with her ex-bf.

Why? According to my informant, the ex-bf didn’t mind her toying with 2 guys (behind his back, and thereafter dumped him in favour for the new guy). Instead, he bought an apartment in china for LL… the act moved LL…

Bro WB had said that the reason for LL to dump her ex-bf was becos he failed to give her PVOs. I had my reservations – the fact that LL is now with her ex-bf… makes me believe there’s more to retaining the gal than PVOs alone.

I have given my gal PVOs. But giving PVOs to other gals are not my priority cos I don’t want to maintain any LT relationships with them. And I still think PVOs are not the be-all-end-all…

DO_YOU_BJ

25-09-2013, 05:39 PM

And I still think PVOs are not the be-all-end-all…
Boss FA, pls allow 小弟 to say a few points out of neutrality n in now way backing up guru WB nor against ur POV watsoever

Where PVOs r concerned, it must be understood when n y to apply it. NO, though it has been widely written abt by guru WB, it's a fact tat it's not a one solution win all battles formula.

We hv to understand every situation, which is nvr the same. Take LL, she dumped this & went back wif tat. I'm not even gonna bother advising u not to listen to ur INTEL for 9 out of 10 r BS, made up or a agreed story to be applied.

When all conditions r to ur favour, it's applicable. When she is financially hooked to u, it's applicable. But then, when all conditions change where in this case, how true or not is secondary, but it wud not sound ridiculous to know in the first place, a stage is an auction ground, the singers r auction items n the guests r just plain bidders.
Whoever bids the highest, wins the bid. In this case, property.

Last, THE HFJ SCENE IS NEVER WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE. Wat u see hung may not mean wats paid at all in the first place. Someone may even hang 10k daily but actually footing a % of wat was hung based on an agreement by mgt, singer & guest. This is actually a hot singer's fav, for any contender to come on board, means having to out hang the fake but pay the real.
The next is dun hang but gimme cash so its discreet support n no one really knows abt it.

Just enjoy the show. Ears heavy, waiters, managers, singers all dun trust, watever story they hv, dun even take it as mantra. All seasoned cheongsters shud noe tat.

fallen.angel

25-09-2013, 05:46 PM

Boss FA, pls allow 小弟 to say a few points out of neutrality n in now way backing up guru WB nor against ur POV watsoever

Where PVOs r concerned, it must be understood when n y to apply it. NO, though it has been widely written abt by guru WB, it's a fact tat it's not a one solution win all battles formula.

We hv to understand every situation, which is nvr the same. Take LL, she dumped this & went back wif tat. I'm not even gonna bother advising u not to listen to ur INTEL for 9 out of 10 r BS, made up or a agreed story to be applied.

When all conditions r to ur favour, it's applicable. When she is financially hooked to u, it's applicable. But then, when all conditions change where in this case, how true or not is secondary, but it wud not sound ridiculous to know in the first place, a stage is an auction ground, the singers r auction items n the guests r just plain bidders.
Whoever bids the highest, wins the bid. In this case, property.

Last, THE HFJ SCENE IS NEVER WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE. Wat u see hung may not mean wats paid at all in the first place. Someone may even hang 10k daily but actually footing a % of wat was hung based on an agreement by mgt, singer & guest. This is actually a hot singer's fav, for any contender to come on board, means having to out hang the fake but pay the real.
The next is dun hang but gimme cash so its discreet support n no one really knows abt it.

Just enjoy the show. Ears heavy, waiters, managers, singers all dun trust, watever story they hv, dun even take it as mantra. All seasoned cheongsters shud noe tat.

Bro DYBJ, though I have not met you in person, I’ve heard all good things about you and I know very well you then is the boss lah ok! if you call me boss then I better keep quiet liao lah, lest I get suan by you again. :X

DO_YOU_BJ

25-09-2013, 05:51 PM

Bro DYBJ, though I have not met you in person, I’ve heard all good things about you and I know very well you then is the boss lah ok! if you call me boss then I better keep quiet liao lah, lest I get suan by you again. :X
I am not suaning anyone bro. Calling boss is nothing new. I also called WB boss in his face on several occasions but in no way a form of disrespect. If u felt so, I am sorry & apologise. But wat I wrote in the initial reply is FACT bro. I've been following many of ur posts, n u hv ur rite to ur way of cheonging but, just out of goodwill, be nothing more than a customer, nvr more than tat. If hv to be fren, also thick face black heart smile smile plastic only ;) Relak bro:)

saabking

25-09-2013, 08:30 PM

fallen.angel

25-09-2013, 10:56 PM

I am not suaning anyone bro. Calling boss is nothing new. I also called WB boss in his face on several occasions but in no way a form of disrespect. If u felt so, I am sorry & apologise. But wat I wrote in the initial reply is FACT bro. I've been following many of ur posts, n u hv ur rite to ur way of cheonging but, just out of goodwill, be nothing more than a customer, nvr more than tat. If hv to be fren, also thick face black heart smile smile plastic only ;) Relak bro:)

Ok Bro DYBJ... sorry for being over sensitive, hahaha. Was rushing off work so i have misunderstood your post. I've re-read your posts and yes, they are actually very timely reminders for anyone who cheong in the night scene, both newbies and old-timers alike. Sometimes old-timers can also get sucked in too deep too... and I'm just a newbie (and small fry) when it comes to HFJs. And because of that, all of us who reads this thread, owe you our gratitude. But I also want to clarify a few things.

Firstly, I know the crowns and robes in HFJs are not what it seems. I think all of us know that. Sometimes, we look at all those 皇冠 and robes and pyrotechnics during 排排唱, and me and my buddy would joke that: maybe only our $100 or $200 flower is real. LOL. We always make the same joke cos we know very well there are always arrangements among the boss, singers, and big time customers, so much so that my buddy seldom hang but instead offer to give cash to them. Bro WB will know I don't hang much to the singers.

Secondly, I tell Bro WB everything my intel tells me and Bro WB would urge me to post it here. So I post everything here "unadulterated". On hindsight, I should have qualified the things I hear from them singers should be taken with a very heavy dose of salt. When my intel told me how much LL's bf gives her a month, Bro WB was sitting right next to me in the room. We were both amazed but we both quickly dismissed and discounted it - how would the singer, LL's 姐妹 really know? Why would LL tell her the exact amount? But when I posted it here, it gives a false impression that its real. So there, we do exercise "professional skepticism" LOL!

You can call Bro WB boss in his face no worries. Me? I just wished I am 10% of him. LOL. Anyone can call me boss too, but not you lah... you are a luminary to me and someone I have high regards for, so if you call me boss, then I will feel being suan-ed. LOL.

Lastly, I never think that the ability to give PVOs is the be-all and end-all. That is because I'm very different from Bro WB. He goes for LT BY relationship and that means partner's faithfulness is paramount. Me? I couldn't care less because I don't have the time and money to do what Bro WB does. But there's one thing I totally agree with Bro WB and that is self-mastery is very attractive to the opposite sex.

DO_YOU_BJ

25-09-2013, 11:08 PM

Ok Bro DYBJ... sorry for being over sensitive, hahaha. Was rushing off work so i have misunderstood your post. I've re-read your posts and yes, they are actually very timely reminders for anyone who cheong in the night scene, both newbies and old-timers alike. Sometimes old-timers can also get sucked in too deep too... and I'm just a newbie (and small fry) when it comes to HFJs. And because of that, all of us who reads this thread, owe you our gratitude. But I also want to clarify a few things.
Appreciate ur understanding bro FA & no gratitude needed la. Like wat my bro JackyChan always say : WE SHARE BCOZ WE CARE

Firstly, I know the crowns and robes in HFJs are not what it seems. I think all of us know that. Sometimes, we look at all those 皇冠 and robes and pyrotechnics during 排排唱, and me and my buddy would joke that: maybe only our $100 or $200 flower is real. LOL. We always make the same joke cos we know very well there are always arrangements among the boss, singers, and big time customers, so much so that my buddy seldom hang but instead offer to give cash to them. Bro WB will know I don't hang much to the singers.

Secondly, I tell Bro WB everything my intel tells me and Bro WB would urge me to post it here. So I post everything here "unadulterated". On hindsight, I should have qualified the things I hear from them singers should be taken with a very heavy dose of salt. When my intel told me how much LL's bf gives her a month, Bro WB was sitting right next to me in the room. We were both amazed but we both quickly dismissed and discounted it - how would the singer, LL's 姐妹 really know? Why would LL tell her the exact amount? But when I posted it here, it gives a false impression that its real. So there, we do exercise "professional skepticism" LOL!
I am glad to hear this, I waz getting worried. Many hv been used, abused & ridiculed coz they believe wat they hear from these GHOSTS. One thing I know for FACT is watever comes out from their mouth or gestures, will all lead back to our wallets hahaha

You can call Bro WB boss in his face no worries. Me? I just wished I am 10% of him. LOL. Anyone can call me boss too, but not you lah... you are a luminary to me and someone I have high regards for, so if you call me boss, then I will feel being suan-ed. LOL.
Mai anikwan leh, see me so up. People say I already bankrupt begging money on the streets wor lolzzz :D

Lastly, I never think that the ability to give PVOs is the be-all and end-all. That is because I'm very different from Bro WB. He goes for LT BY relationship and that means partner's faithfulness is paramount. Me? I couldn't care less because I don't have the time and money to do what Bro WB does. But there's one thing I totally agree with Bro WB and that is self-mastery is very attractive to the opposite sex.
Yup, this WB has told me on the phone. ST is ok la, but after a while, it gets too routine n boring hehehehe. KC, BY, mindfuck, manipulation, physical & total obedience.....bro, shud try to play this level. Damn addictive sia :)

fallen.angel

26-09-2013, 09:28 AM

Bro DYBJ…

Yes! All these lies, words, gestures… they all lead to your wallet… well, lucky me… for I don’t have much in mine to begin with, hahaha

I’m not ready to play at the next level yet… still a newbie and don’t have to means to do it…

And thanks for the points bro!! Finally, I can zap people liao! LOL, jk… :p

warbird

26-09-2013, 10:34 AM

Good morning!

I'm thrilled to see so many posts on a variety of topics by esteemed bros deathnitez, FA, saabking n Mr Chairman himself.

Pls allow me time to reply to all the posts as I hv a lot to read, digest n learn.

Mr Chairman's Sayings r indeed timeless...and bro FA's approach is practical n highly effective, for him.

Thanks again,

Bro WB

saabking

27-09-2013, 12:15 AM

Yup, this WB has told me on the phone. ST is ok la, but after a while, it gets too routine n boring hehehehe. KC, BY, mindfuck, manipulation, physical & total obedience.....bro, shud try to play this level. Damn addictive sia :)

Yes - ST getting too routine and boring need greater challenge - just like need to play Halo at legendary mode after you complete all the challenges. But it is also very addictive and so you need to calibrate investment otherwise you would get fuck over.

DO_YOU_BJ

27-09-2013, 01:30 AM

Yes - ST getting too routine and boring need greater challenge - just like need to play Halo at legendary mode after you complete all the challenges. But it is also very addictive and so you need to calibrate investment otherwise you would get fuck over.
There is something one must know when spending.
Spend ur EXCESS moolah on these, not ur bread & butter money. Even so, after a while, it also gets anti climax.
A man will get fuck over in this game when he is no more a man, but instead, dependent on this WL to achieve emotional completeness.
A man will not get fucked over if he lives by a principle e.g WL climbs over his head, he throws her down & out & BUYS another replacement.
That's the difference between player & playee ;)

warbird

03-10-2013, 11:57 AM

Bro WB has asked me to post an update on DC’s former top earning singer – LL.

LL has gone home.........................................

Why? According to my informant, the ex-bf didn’t mind her toying with 2 guys..............Instead, he bought an apartment in china for LL… the act moved LL…

Bro WB had said that the reason for LL to dump her ex-bf was becos he failed to give her PVOs. I had my reservations – the fact that LL is now with her ex-bf… makes me believe there’s more to retaining the gal than PVOs alone.
............................And I still think PVOs are not the be-all-end-all…

Dear bro FA,

Tks for ur excellent post on the fabled DC singer LL.

PVO is an intriguing topic n we hv somewhat different views. That is why we hv this forum. I shall clarify my beliefs on the subject at a later date.

Mr Chairman aka bro DYBJ gives a good analysis n balanced view of PVO. Actually our positions r very close.

Cheers!

Boss FA, pls allow 小弟 to say a few points out of neutrality n in now way backing up guru WB nor against ur POV watsoever

Where PVOs r concerned, it must be understood when n y to apply it. NO, though it has been widely written abt by guru WB, it's a fact tat it's not a one solution win all battles formula.

We hv to understand every situation, which is nvr the same. Take LL, she dumped this & went back wif tat. I'm not even gonna bother advising u not to listen to ur INTEL for 9 out of 10 r BS, made up or a agreed story to be applied.

When all conditions r to ur favour, it's applicable. When she is financially hooked to u, it's applicable. But then, when all conditions change where in this case, how true or not is secondary, but it wud not sound ridiculous to know in the first place, a stage is an auction ground, the singers r auction items n the guests r just plain bidders.
Whoever bids the highest, wins the bid. In this case, property.

Last, THE HFJ SCENE IS NEVER WHAT IT APPEARS TO BE. Wat u see hung may not mean wats paid at all in the first place. Someone may even hang 10k daily but actually footing a % of wat was hung based on an agreement by mgt, singer & guest. This is actually a hot singer's fav, for any contender to come on board, means having to out hang the fake but pay the real.
The next is dun hang but gimme cash so its discreet support n no one really knows abt it.

Just enjoy the show. Ears heavy, waiters, managers, singers all dun trust, ..............

Dear Mr Chairman,

Tks so much for ur post.

Yes, things are seldom what they seem. This is not only true in the night scene but also in daily life hahaha.

It behooves every cheongster to remember your posts.

a stage is an auction ground, the singers r auction items n the guests r just plain bidders.
Whoever bids the highest, wins the bid.

We should all know this, but often we forget!!

Cheers!

Bro DYBJ, though I have not met you in person, I’ve heard all good things about you ..................

Dear bro FA,

Mr Chairman is THE master...

I am not suaning anyone bro. Calling boss is nothing new. I also called WB boss in his face on several occasions but in no way a form of disrespect. If u felt so, I am sorry & apologise. But wat I wrote in the initial reply is FACT bro. I've been following many of ur posts, n u hv ur rite to ur way of cheonging but, just out of goodwill, be nothing more than a customer, nvr more than tat. If hv to be fren, also thick face black heart smile smile plastic only.......

Dear Mr Chairman,

Tks for reminding.

Bro WB

Obviously LL is moved by the Apt. who wouldn't - i tend to agree with FA too. . different gals got different needs for PVOs. just sharing my POV.

Dear bro saabking,

Our views on PVO actually quite similar.

I hv a slightly different take on the apt thing. LL's first BF might not hv bought her anything. Maybe it was just hot air...

Supposing he actually did buy her the property, that would be a very dumb move. Of course he repossesses her body n pussy, for now. She is very grateful but she may actually be less attracted to him, IMHO. I seriously doubt she can remain faithful to him.

Cheers!

Ok Bro DYBJ... sorry for being over sensitive, hahaha. Was rushing off work so i have misunderstood your post. I've re-read your posts and yes, they are actually very timely reminders for anyone who cheong in the night scene, both newbies and old-timers alike. ...............

Firstly, I know the crowns and robes in HFJs are not what it seems..........during 排排唱, and me and my buddy would joke that: maybe only our $100 or $200 flower is real. LOL. .................Bro WB will know I don't hang much to the singers.

Secondly, I tell Bro WB everything my intel tells me and Bro WB would urge me to post it here. So I post everything here "unadulterated". On hindsight, I should have qualified the things I hear from them ..........Bro WB was sitting right next to me in the room. We were both amazed but we both quickly dismissed and discounted it - how would the singer, LL's 姐妹 really know? ......................

You can call Bro WB boss in his face no worries. Me? I just wished I am 10% of him. LOL.................

Lastly, I never think that the ability to give PVOs is the be-all and end-all. That is because I'm very different from Bro WB. He goes for LT BY relationship and that means partner's faithfulness is paramount. ............But there's one thing I totally agree with Bro WB and that is self-mastery is very attractive to the opposite sex.

Dear bro FA,

Tks so much for ur post.

You're too humble. You're a natural with women haha.

I hv more to say abt the significance of PVOs at a later date. This is a very complex subject. Suffice to say that every woman is different n that only 25 to 30% of women have experienced it...additionally, its addictive power varies greatly among those who hv experienced it. Many social, economic, cultural, ethnic, religious, physical, genetic, sexual n psychological factors may all play a role. A woman's prior childhood, family n early sexual experiences (both good n bad) r influential as well. Last but not least, a lot depends on the kind of male partner she has. The circumstances n context r important as well. And, to make it more complex, not all PVOs r created equal, even in the same women, hahaha. BTW, I'm relating only to healthy, heterosexual women.

In any longer term RS, whether ur partner is a legal wife/mistress/GF/lover, her faithfulness is very important especially if sex is raw. Even if a man is certain that he is the first man to ever give his long term partner PVOs, he cannot assume that she is or will remain faithful. In the age of HIV, It's a matter of life n death. Over 50% of wives hv cheated.

To be 99% sure, engage the service of a licensed PI, which costs abt 4-6K for 6 days of monitoring in SG. To be 99.9% sure, engage a 2nd PI haha. It's money well spent.

Cheers！

Appreciate ur understanding bro FA & no gratitude needed la. Like wat my bro JackyChan always say : WE SHARE BCOZ WE CARE

I am glad to hear this, I waz getting worried. Many hv been used, abused & ridiculed coz they believe wat they hear from these GHOSTS. One thing I know for FACT is watever comes out from their mouth or gestures, will all lead back to our wallets hahaha

Mai anikwan leh, see me so up. People say I already bankrupt begging money on the streets wor lolzzz

Yup, this WB has told me on the phone. ST is ok la, but after a while, it gets too routine n boring hehehehe. KC, BY, mindfuck, manipulation, physical & total obedience.....bro, shud try to play this level. Damn addictive sia

Dear Mr Chairman,

Yes, never trust anyone working in the night scene.

I enjoy offering BY to every gal of my type. It's almost as fun as actual BY-ing haha...I won't call it an addiction though.

Cheers!

Bro DYBJ…

Yes! All these lies, words, gestures… they all lead to your wallet… well, lucky me… for I don’t have much in mine to begin with, hahaha
.......
And thanks for the points bro!! Finally, I can zap people liao! LOL, jk…

Bro, you enjoy ST-ing haha. I still do it occasionally. It can be very satisfying with the right gal.

I heard you recently ST-ed a very pretty M'sian Chn model who is my type haha. Care to intro?

Yes - ST getting too routine and boring need greater challenge - just like need to play Halo at legendary mode after you complete all the challenges. But it is also very addictive and so you need to calibrate investment otherwise you would get fuck over.

Dear bro saabking,

I also like to ST n to BY my type of SYTs.

There is something one must know when spending.
Spend ur EXCESS moolah on these, not ur bread & butter money. Even so, after a while, it also gets anti climax.
A man will get fuck over in this game when he is no more a man, but instead, dependent on this WL to achieve emotional completeness.
A man will not get fucked over if he lives by a principle e.g WL climbs over his head, he throws her down & out & BUYS another replacement.
That's the difference between player & playee

Dear Mr Chairman,

Great advice.

Always spend within our means.

Always keep the power in every RS.

Some men need a woman to achieve 'emotional completeness' because they r 'lacking' something inside. Instead, they should look inside n never outside of themselves, otherwise they will always be disappointed. They will lose power in the RS n become dependent on their women for fulfillment. They will become needy...game over.

Cheers！

Bro WB

warbird

07-10-2013, 02:34 PM

Good ａｆｔｅｒｎｏｏｎ!

Last Fri I went to a 3rd fl Havelock joint with 2 other bros for HH.: Bros S n NB. We had a good time n ｓｐｅｎｔ　ｒｅｌａｔｉｖｅｌｙ　ｌｉｔｔｌｅ as I had a leftover bttle, and when that was finished by 9PM, bro S had a bttle which he brought up from 1st fl.

Bro NB will be promoted to a good position in Shanghai, hopefully soon. Congrats! I'll miss him.

Ｂｒｏ　Ｓ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｅ　ｇｏｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　Ｃｈｉｎａ　ｓｏｏｎ．　Ｈｅ　ｗｉｌｌ　ｂｒｉｎｇ　ａ　ｐｒｅｔｔｙ　ＳＹＴ　ｂａｃｋ　ａｓ　ｈｉｓ　ｍｉｓｔｒｅｓｓ　ｈａｈａ．

Bro S n I went there ｔｏ　３ｒｄ　ｆｌ　before 6:30PM n we both had an eye on a cute SYT FE ｗｈｏ was among the first Q up. Mummy H said tak boleh for ST. I said KIV. I noticeｄ her juicy, shapely n perky ass. Later bro S n I went out to the big rm to ｓｅａｒｃｈ　ｆｏｒ gals. Bro S expressed some interest in FE, but I was faster on the draw n asked mummy H if FE would agree to 跑台，the gal looked baffled n asked mummy to clarify. It was her first day at work.

Anyway, after she sat ｄｏｗｎ　with me, I began to like her more n more. She is 22 but looked younger, like 19-20. Pretty n very cute, good complexion, quite fair, 168, 49-50 kg, small bony frame, long straight n sharply legs. No, she is far from perfect as her shoulders a bit broad due to frequent swimming n her boobs only B. She is from Hubei, a model n uni graduate. In terms of looks n figure, she is the best I hv seen since I met my current young mistress over a yr ago.

We made great connection, chemistry? Predestined affinity? She was friendly, jovial. I asked her: 你出街吗？She asked: 什么是出街？ I said: 去开房。 Her reply: 不去。 I asked again: 多少你说，多少钱都不去？ Her reply: 不去！I then said:　我喜欢不出街的，　我要照顾你！Ｓｈｅ　ｄｉｄｎｔ　ｒｅｐｌｙ．Ｗｅ　ｔｈｅｎ　ｓｈａｒｅｄ　ａ　ｃｏｕｐｌｅ　ｏｆ　ｊｏｋｅｓ．

I started touching her on the wrists, arms n escalated　ｍｙ　ｐｆｙｓｉｃａｌ　ｃｔｃ. Ｂｅｆｏｒｅ　ｌｏｎｇ　Ｉ　ｗａｓ massagｉｎｇ her neck　ｎ　ｔｈｅｎ　ｋｉｓｓｉｎｇ　ｈｅｒ　ｃｈｅｅｋ　ｎ　ｈｕｇｇｉｎｇ　ｈｅｒ　ｔｉｇｈｔｌｙ．．．ｔｈｅｎ　Ｉ　ｆｒｅｎｃｈｅｄ　ｈｅｒ．Ｉ　ｋｎｅｗ　ｈｅｒ　ｐｕｓｓｙ　ｗａｓ　ｍｉｎｅ．

Ｉ　ｃｏｎｓｕｍｍａｔｅｄ　ｔｈｅ　ＢＹ　ｔｈｅ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｎｅｘｔ　ｄａｙ．　Ｉ　ｗａｓ　ｓａｔｉｓｆｉｅｄ　ｗｉｔｈ　ｈｅｒ　ｎａｋｅｄ　ｂｏｄｙ　ｎ　ｐｕｓｓｙ．　Ｓｈｅ　ｗａｓ　ｅａｓｉｌｙ　ｏｒｇａｓｉｍｃ．．．

Ｏｎ　Ｓａｔ　Ｉ　ｌｅｆｔ　ｈｅｒ　ｔｏ　ｓｉｔ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ　ｍａｓｓａｇｅ　　ｃｈａｉｒ　ａｔ　ＰＣ　ｗｈｉｌｅ　Ｉ　ｗｅｎｔ　ｔｏ　ｐａｒｋ　ｍｙ　ｃａｒ．　Ｗｅ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｇｏｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｂｒｏ　Ｓ＇ｓ　ｏｕｔｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ａ　ｓｍａｌｌ　ｊｏｉｎｔ　ａｔ　Ｐａｒｋｌａｎｅ．Ｗｈｅｎ　Ｉ　ｃａｍｅ　ｂａｃｋ　ｉｎ　ａｂｔ　１０　ｍｉｎｕｔｅｓ，　Ｉ　ｓａｗ　ａ　ｍａｎ　ｂｅｎｄｉｎｇ　ｏｖｅｒ　ｔａｌｋｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｈｅｒ，　ｔｒｙｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｉｎｖｉｔｅ　ｈｅｒ　ｔｏ　ｄｉｎｎｅｒ！Ｉ　ａｐｐｒｏａｃｈｅｄ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｎ　ｈｅ　ｔｕｒｎｅｄ　ａｒｏｕｎｄ：　Ｙｏｕｒ　ＧＦ？　Ｉ　ｓａｉｄ　ｍｙ　ｍｉｓｔｒｅｓｓ．Ｈｅ　ｗａｌｋｅｄ　ａｗａｙ　ｑｕｉｃｋｌｙ．　Ｙｅｓｔｅｒｄａｙ，　ｓｈｅ　ｃａｍｅ　ｔｏ　ＰＣ　Ｓｏｐｈｉａ　ｒｄ　ｓｏ　ｔｈａｔ　ｗｅ　ｃｏｕｌｄ　ｇｏ　ｔｏ　ｓｅｅ　ａ　ｍｏｖｉｅ　ａｔ　Ｃａｔｈａｙ．　Ｓｈｅ　　ａｒｒｉｖｅｄ　ｅａｒｌｙ　ｎ　ｏｒｄｅｒｅｄ　　ｎｏｏｄｌｅ　ａｔ　ｔｈｅ　１ｓｔ　ｆｌ　ｃａｆｅｔｅｒｉａ．Ｗｈｅｎ　Ｉ　ｃａｍｅ　１２　ｍｉｎｕｔｅｓ　ｌａｔｅｒ，　ｓｈｅ　ｈｕｒｒｉｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｍｙ　ｃａｒ．　Ｓｈｅ　ｓａｉｄ　ｔｗｏ　ｍｅｎ　ｓｔａｒｅｄ　ａｔ　ｈｅｒ　ｎ　ｔｒｉｅｄ　ｔｏ　ｐｉｃｋ　ｈｅｒ　ｕｐ　ｉｎｓｉｄｅ　ｔｈｅ　ｃａｆｅ！！　

Ｉ　ｇｕｅｓｓ　ｔｈｅｓｅ　ｍｕｓｔ　ｂｅ　ｂｒｏｓ　ｗｈｏ　ｈｖ　ｒｅａｄ　ｍｙ　ｔｈｒｅａｄ！！　Ｗｅｌｌ　ｄｏｎｅ．Ｋｅｅｐ　ｉｔ　ｕｐ．　Ｉ　ｗｅｌｃｏｍｅ　ｃｏｍｐｅｔｉｔｉｏｎ　ｗｈｉｃｈ　ｇｉｖｅｓ　ｍｅａｎｉｎｇ　ｔｏ　ｓｕｃｃｅｓｓ．Ｔｈｅｓｅ　ｂｒｏｓ　ｓｔｉｌｌ　ｇｏｔ　ｃｈａｎｃｅ　ａｓ　ｉｔ　ｍａｙ　ｔａｋｅ　ａ　ｆｕｌｌ　ｍｏｎｔｈ　ｆｏｒ　ａ　ｇａｌ　ｔｏ　ｇｅｔ　ｓｅｘｕａｌｌｙ　ａｄｄｉｃｔｅｄ　ｔｏ　ａ　ｍａｎ．Ｂｅｓｉｄｅｓ，　ｓｈｅ　ｉｓ　ｏｎ　ａ　１４　ｄａｙ　ｖｉｓｉｔｏｒ　ｐａｓｓ　ｎ　ｈａｓ　ｔｏ　ｒｅｔｕｒｎ　ｔｏ　ＰＲＣ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｓｏｏｎ．　Ｈｅｒ　ｓｉｓ　ｎ　ａｇｅｎｔ　ｓｕｇｇｅｓｔ　ｔｈａｔ　ｓｈｅ　ｇｅｔ　ｓｉｎｇｅｒ　ｐａｓｓ　ｏｎ　ｈｅｒ　ｒｅｔｕｒｎ．　Ｔｈｅ　ｓｉｎｇｉｎｇ　ｔｙｐｅ　ａｓ　ｔｈｅ　ｖｉｓａ　ｉｓ　ｍｕｃｈ　ｃｈｅａｐｅｒ　ｎ　ｓｈｅ　ｉｓ　ａ　ｇｏｏｄ　ｓｉｎｇｅｒ．　Ｈｏｗｅｖｅｒ，　ｓｈｅ　ｗｏｕｌｄ　ｂｅ　ｐｌｅａｓｅｄ　ｔｏ　ａｐｐｌｙ　ｆｏｒ　ｓｔｕｄｅｎｔ　ｐａｓｓ　ｉｆ　Ｉ　ａｇｒｅｅ　ｔｏ　ｋｅｅｐ　ｈｅｒ　ｏｎ　ｈｅｒ　ｒｅｔｕｒｎ．　Ｉ＇ｍ　ｎｏｔ　ｓｕｒｅ　ａｔ　ｔｈｉｓ　ｔｉｍｅ　ａｓ　Ｉ　ａｌｒｅａｄｙ　ｈｖ　ｔｗｏ　ｏｔｈｅｒ　ｍｉｓｔｒｅｅｓｅｓ．Ｉ　ｌｉｋｅ　ｈｅｒ　ａｓ　ｓｈｅ　ｉｓ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｖｉｖａｃｉｏｕｓ　ｎ　ｖｅｒｙ　ｐａｓｓｉｏｎａｔｅ．Ｓｈｅ　ｌｏｏｋｅｄ　ｓｔｕｎｎｉｎｇｌｙ　ｐｒｅｔｔｙ　ｎ　ｓｅｘｙ　ｌａｓｔ　ｎｉｇｈｔ．Ｄｕｒｉｎｇ　ｔｈｅ　ｓｈｏｗ，　ｓｈｅ　ｎ　Ｉ　ｗｅｒｅ　ｇｌｕｅｄ　ｔｏｇｅｔｈｅｒ．．．

Ｃｈｅｅｒｓ！

Ｂｒｏ　ＷＢ

Tnuc111

07-10-2013, 10:40 PM

Lots of wisdom here.

For a change, how about leaving nothing to imagination like this ;)

www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=9817226&postcount=1

saabking

07-10-2013, 10:48 PM

fallen.angel

08-10-2013, 01:46 PM

Bro WB has asked me, repeatedly, to post my FR on my ST with a Malaysian beauty pageant winner and events model – EJ…

EJ’s stats: 19 yo (1994 – I checked her passport to make sure I don’t appear in the papers for the wrong reasons afterwards. And it doesn’t take a lot of effort), 170, D cup. Long hair, fair skin.

Met her in a 5 star hotel in town. Super shy. Super innocent. Super soft-spoken. I requested to have a bubble bath together but she insisted to shower separately saying she’s very shy.

So she showered first and came out wrapped in towel. Super shy. When I finished showering, she’s already under the sheets, so I climbed into bed and joined her, both of us butt naked. We cuddled and I talked to her to break the ice and make her open up. She’s very soft spoken. She reminded me of my younger cousin from Malaysia whom I had a crush on when I was still in primary school.

After some chit chatting, I began to kiss her. I kissed her ever so gently and inserted my tongue into her mouth. She responded and surprisingly, was fluent in French. I took my time kissing and frenching her. Then I caress her body gently and slowly – her soft ample boobs, her body, and then to her bush. I did it very slowly and deliberately. I cupped her pussy firmly all the while still gently frenching her. I didn’t insert my fingers into her or play with her clitoris. I just made firm but very small circular motion with my cupped hand which is over her pussy. I knew she will turn wet easily and sure enough, I was rewarded with one. So I began to kiss her face, ears, neck and slowly licked her nipples. She was moaning softly and I went down on her. She was super sensitive and pushed me away after a few minutes. No matter – she was already dripping wet.

It was time for her to BBBJ me. Slow and sensuous. I wanted 69 but she pushed me away again after a while and said she was sensitive. I didn’t insist. She handed me the condom and I capped myself – she said she don’t know how to put on the condom for me?!?!??! Anyways, did her in missionary first, then doggie, then I asked her to go on top of me but she said she don’t know how to. I said I will guide her and with my hands firmly on her waist, I guided her body movement.

It was a very refreshing change from almost all the FLs I’ve tried before her – she has the typical Malaysian (innocent) looks, the very down-to-earth type whom you will not hesitate to bring home to show mom, yet she was the beauty queen with class and elegance. She’s the type who doesn’t drink, smoke or party. At 19, she’s too young to enter discos anyways, unless she’s being brought in by VVIPs to Zouk (in KL)

warbird

09-10-2013, 03:16 PM

Lots of wisdom here.

For a change, how about leaving nothing to imagination like this ;)

www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=9817226&postcount=1

Dear bro Tnuc111,

Thank u for sharing.

WB - you really hero ley..2 mistresses already still hunt for new one? Make me also want to be your competitor - nothing beats some friendly competition to keep the free market working. :D

Dear bro saabking,

I'm always looking for pretty SYTs of my type.

I'm also a fervent devotee of free market economy hahaha.

Competition is great. We should welcome it! It motivates us to sharpen our skills, to improve ourselves, in every way, every day...

Failure is wonderful. We should love it!

"Success is not built on success. It's built on failure. It's built on frustration. Sometimes its built on catastrophe." - Sumner Redstone

Bro WB has asked me, repeatedly, to post my FR on my ST with a Malaysian beauty pageant winner and events model – EJ…

EJ’s stats: 19 yo (1994 – I checked her passport to make sure I don’t appear in the papers for the wrong reasons afterwards. And it doesn’t take a lot of effort), 170, D cup. Long hair, fair skin.

Met her in a 5 star hotel in town. Super shy. Super innocent. Super soft-spoken.................. She reminded me of my younger cousin from Malaysia whom I had a crush on when I was still in primary school.

After some chit chatting, I began to kiss her. I kissed her ever so gently and inserted my tongue into her mouth...........

It was time for her to BBBJ me. Slow and sensuous. I wanted 69 but she pushed me away again after a while and said she was sensitive. I didn’t insist. She handed me the condom and I capped myself – she said she don’t know how to put on the condom for me?!?!??! Anyways, did her in missionary first, then doggie, then I asked her to go on top of me but she said she don’t know how to. I said I will guide her and with my hands firmly on her waist, I guided her body movement.

It was a very refreshing change from almost all the FLs I’ve tried before her – she has the typical Malaysian (innocent) looks, the very down-to-earth type whom you will not hesitate to bring home to show mom................

Dear bro FA,

Tks for ur excellent n detailed FR.

However, I don't think she is innocent at all hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

saabking

09-10-2013, 10:01 PM

"Success is not built on success. It's built on failure. It's built on frustration. Sometimes its built on catastrophe." - Sumner Redstone

Bro WB

Bro WB, you are good ..english can quote chinese also can quote..are you some bi-cultural scholar?

Well - will be great to catch up when you have gatherings with the boys. Don't forget to count me in..:D

warbird

10-10-2013, 11:43 AM

Bro WB, you are good ..english can quote chinese also can quote..are you some bi-cultural scholar?

Well - will be great to catch up when you have gatherings with the boys. Don't forget to count me in..:D

Dear bro saabking,

I'm no scholar, just another lao chee ko pek, a Johnny-come-lately, who is studying, training and practicing very diligently n relentlessly to improve himself in every way, everyday...hahaha.

I believe that, in life, it's not where you start that counts, it's where you finish.

Bro, welcome to my future outings!

Cheers!

Bro WB

MillerV

10-10-2013, 07:58 PM

Excellent FR by fallen angel and update by Warbird.
Aiyah missed the show last Friday!
Have fun guys

deathnitez

14-10-2013, 06:46 AM

Glad to see this thread and fellow bros still going strong yeah :D. Been away for awhile doing some soul search, weird suddenly felt abit emo, lol and also with work and stuff end of the year..... bah busy. For me nothing new still with my few usual girls i stay in contact with. now i am still trying to fill up 2 countries. Japan and Taiwan. My ultimate goal 1 gf per country. except those darker then yellow. never like brown stuff sorry if I offend anyone. Any recommendation?? I know a few place with taiwan but damn limited.....

deathnitez

14-10-2013, 07:01 AM

Dear bro FA,

Dear bro deathnitz,

Could u clarify what u meant by "subsequent activities with these WL or GL are free and whatever I want they give." How do u get FOC w/ GL legal gals?

Tks!

A persistently hard didi is even more powerful haha...

Dear bro deathnitz,

Yes, we should always treat every human being w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return.

But could u clarify the condom n FOC thing?

Tks!

Bro WB

Was reading thru the thread and notice this okay let me explain the free. I was in business trip thru out SEA. Some of the this girl became my guide to places to eat and play, plus free lodging at their house. You be suprise how generous guys can be to this girls..... houses and car and shop paid for them and i get to stay in them for free LOL.... I have some photo as proof will show if we have an outing together. So the free is a good guide, free accomodation, free "ahem" and free hair cut haha from her shop. Guess for activities are as mention above. So i guess treat them with humanity and abit of brain they will know you are not those easy to carrot head ppl. :cool: oh and lastly plus land also. Best of all if you can make then love you so much as to fly to singapore just to look for you "without you paying of course". that is a hard skill to master and it took me a lot of time....

saabking

14-10-2013, 08:42 AM

Was reading thru the thread and notice this okay let me explain the free. I was in business trip thru out SEA. Some of the this girl became my guide to places to eat and play, plus free lodging at their house. You be suprise how generous guys can be to this girls..... houses and car and shop paid for them and i get to stay in them for free LOL.... I have some photo as proof will show if we have an outing together. So the free is a good guide, free accomodation, free "ahem" and free hair cut haha from her shop. Guess for activities are as mention above. So i guess treat them with humanity and abit of brain they will know you are not those easy to carrot head ppl. :cool: oh and lastly plus land also. Best of all if you can make then love you so much as to fly to singapore just to look for you "without you paying of course". that is a hard skill to master and it took me a lot of time....

Yes - also get free accommodation, free outings, free meals, free ahem, etc. But when you treat them with w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return, you also end up buying them gifts and what not for free too. :)

礼尚往来

NotMyRealName

14-10-2013, 01:44 PM

Good ａｆｔｅｒｎｏｏｎ!

...had an eye on a cute SYT FE ｗｈｏ was among the first Q up. Mummy H said tak boleh for ST. ...

I asked her: 你出街吗？She asked: 什么是出街？ I said: 去开房。 Her reply: 不去。 I asked again: 多少你说，多少钱都不去？ Her reply: 不去！I then said:　我喜欢不出街的，　我要照顾你！Ｓｈｅ　ｄｉｄｎｔ　ｒｅｐｌｙ．Ｗｅ　ｔｈｅｎ　ｓｈａｒｅｄ　ａ　ｃｏｕｐｌｅ　ｏｆ　ｊｏｋｅｓ．

I started touching her on the wrists, arms n escalated　ｍｙ　ｐｆｙｓｉｃａｌ　ｃｔｃ. Ｂｅｆｏｒｅ　ｌｏｎｇ　Ｉ　ｗａｓ massagｉｎｇ her neck　ｎ　ｔｈｅｎ　ｋｉｓｓｉｎｇ　ｈｅｒ　ｃｈｅｅｋ　ｎ　ｈｕｇｇｉｎｇ　ｈｅｒ　ｔｉｇｈｔｌｙ．．．ｔｈｅｎ　Ｉ　ｆｒｅｎｃｈｅｄ　ｈｅｒ．Ｉ　ｋｎｅｗ　ｈｅｒ　ｐｕｓｓｙ　ｗａｓ　ｍｉｎｅ．

Ｂｒｏ　ＷＢ

Sifu WB, you the man. Sorry I've not been able to go to the outings for a while due to my many constraints.

And also sifu Deathnitez, very interesting and good info.

deathnitez

14-10-2013, 07:49 PM

Yes - also get free accommodation, free outings, free meals, free ahem, etc. But when you treat them with w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return, you also end up buying them gifts and what not for free too. :)

礼尚往来

Gifts? I dont shower them gifts like gucci prada or LV? So far i give is flowers and stuff toys lol. usually if a girl request for this branded stuff I will just shunt them off politely. We go out don't go shopping centers but places of interest and makan. Paying for food is okay for me I am not that cheapskate but branded stuff is a no no. Is a rule for me and my friends no branded staff for this girls but our wife or real gf. :cool:

warbird

15-10-2013, 10:44 AM

Excellent FR by fallen angel and update by Warbird.
Aiyah missed the show last Friday!
Have fun guys

Dear bro MillerV,

It was fun haha.

Glad to see this thread and fellow bros still going strong yeah :D. Been away for awhile doing some soul search, weird suddenly felt abit emo, lol and also with work and stuff end of the year..... bah busy. For me nothing new still with my few usual girls i stay in contact with. now i am still trying to fill up 2 countries. Japan and Taiwan...........................

Dear bro deathnitez,

Keep it up!

Was reading thru the thread and notice this okay let me explain the free. I was in business trip thru out SEA. Some of the this girl became my guide to places to eat and play, plus free lodging at their house. You be suprise how generous guys can be to this girls..... houses and car and shop paid for them and i get to stay in them for free LOL.... I have some photo as proof will show if we have an outing together. So the free is a good guide, free accomodation, free "ahem" and free hair cut haha from her shop....................................lastly plus land also. Best of all if you can make then love you so much as to fly to singapore just to look for you "without you paying of course". that is a hard skill to master and it took me a lot of time....

Some men r too generous n too naive...they hv paid for ur fun haha.

You're the real MASTER! Your SELF MASTERY is awesome!

Yes - also get free accommodation, free outings, free meals, free ahem, etc. But when you treat them with w/ respect n kindness, w/o expecting anything in return, you also end up buying them gifts and what not for free too.

礼尚往来

Dear bro saabking,

I totally agree w/ u.

Sifu WB, you the man. Sorry I've not been able to go to the outings for a while due to my many constraints.

And also sifu Deathnitez, very interesting and good info.

Dear bro NMRN,

I'm a diligent trainee, bro deathnitez is the real sifu.

Gifts? I dont shower them gifts like gucci prada or LV? So far i give is flowers and stuff toys lol. usually if a girl request for this branded stuff I will just shunt them off politely. We go out don't go shopping centers but places of interest and makan. Paying for food is okay for me I am not that cheapskate but branded stuff is a no no. Is a rule for me and my friends no branded staff for this girls but our wife or real gf......................

I like ur style.

Cheers!

deathnitez

16-10-2013, 11:50 PM

Fellow bros I am no sifu pls..... I just share my experience. I believe other bros are better just haven share their skills yet. :cool:

warbird

23-10-2013, 02:49 PM

Fellow bros I am no sifu pls..... I just share my experience. I believe other bros are better just haven share their skills yet. :cool:

Dear bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing. You're a very humble man.

Cheers!

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Good afternoon,

Great sex has different effects, both physical n emotional, on men n women.

If a man gives a woman sexual pleasure she has never experienced w/ any other men, she is very likely to become sexually addicted. Even if he is the antithesis of her type, in every way.

Most women has never had PVO, which can be so intense n so prolonged that it's life-changing.

Almost all men can experience orgasm which is relatively weak. How many of us moan n scream uncontrollably n INVOLUNTARILY when we come? The key word here is INVOLUNTARILY.

If a woman gives a man sexual pleasure he has never had w/ other women, it's very unlikely he will be addicted to her solely because of great sex. If he already likes her, he will like her more. If he doesn't already like her, he will still not like her, despite the great sex.

Here is an article from a relationship/sex guru giving advice to women on how to get men addicted. BTW, the guru is a man.

This is very useful because, like they say, “知彼知己,百战不殆"

3 Simple Hints That Make A Man Addicted To You . . .

Hint 1: Understand what sex actually means to a man.

Every day through my blog, podcast and Facebook wall we get dozens and dozens of questions from women wanting to know what sex actually MEANS to men. "Why do men want sex so much?," they ask . . . "If I sleep with a guy does it mean we're getting married?," they plead, "I met this guy and he wanted to tie me up on the first date and bring his ex girlfriend along . . . do you think he likes me?" they beg. (Uhh. Run.)

And again and again I have to repeat ONE big lesson.

Sex doesn't CREATE emotions for men but it does REINFORCE emotions for men.

If a guy already likes you and sees you as "girlfriend material," then sex (good sex, anyway) will make him like you more and maybe even create a little bit of "love."

But if he just sees you as "hookup material" or a "friend with benefits" that's not going to change no matter how many crazy positions you learn or how long you can hold your breath.

The main lesson here is that sex is incredibly important to men (we think about it all the time) but it's not always EMOTIONALLY important. Unlike most women a lot of guys can have dirty, amazing, athletic sex with women they have no feelings for at all and have that not change a damned thing.

Sucks, huh?

So . . .

Don't sleep with a guy to "Make him like you." It won't work. But DO sleep with a guy if he already likes you and you'll "hook him" like a particularly randy trout.

Which brings us to . ..

Hint 2: Worship his package like some religious idol.

OK, let's be honest. . .

Men LOVE their packages.

Love them.

The emotional connection a man feels for his genitalia is something between love and obsession. Men take a crazy, ridiculous and unhealthy amount of time thinking about their genitalia, what their genitalia is feeling what it WANTS to feel and how they can make it feel more.

And because guys love them so much we want YOU to love them too.
I know, I know, they are ugly little shriveled tails hanging off the front of a man (until they're not).

But a POWERFUL masculine dream is "THE POWER OF THE PACKAGE."
Just watch any pornography made for straight guys and you'll see this (incredibly unrealistic) effect in action.

A man simply unzips his pants and suddenly the demure housewife becomes as slick and hot as a water slide on the 4th of July.

Yes, it's ridiculous. But it's also hard wired into men's minds and simply understanding the deep connection a man has to his package (instead of mocking him for it) gives you incredible power.
If you want to get a guy busting down doors to get to you simply send him a text saying . . .
"I can't stop thinking about your package. . . if you were here right now I would . . . "

And make sure to TALK about it while you're having sex too. I promise, he'll like it.

Hint 3: Give Him Sexual Power Over You . . .

OK, this hint is actually a little bit of an extension of number 2 (insert Extenz one liner here) but fundamentally men get off on being able to give women an incredible time in bed without necessarily having to do any work for it.

Actually, here's a funny example.

A few weeks ago I was hanging out with a couple I know in California.

The woman (a hot single mom from Eastern Europe) had gotten one of my programs.

She decided to test it out.

"I can't stop thinking about your arms and how safe I feel in them. You're amazing."

Then she heard the rapid steps on the stairs as her boyfriend RAN to see her. He busted open the door with a lustful smile on his face ready to sweep her into his arms . . .

And then got red faced and a bit embarrassed when he saw my program on the screen.

Anyway . ..

Notice a recurring theme in these "3 Hints?"

They're psychological.

Just like for women, for men sex is 95% in the mind. No amount of "weird tricks" or running your nails down his
chest is going to affect a man as understanding the primal desires of his mind.

Best,

Mr. Sex Guru

Thanks for reading. Comments n criticisms will be appreciated.

Bro WB

NotMyRealName

23-10-2013, 06:08 PM

city slicker

24-10-2013, 12:50 AM

If a man gives a woman sexual pleasure she has never experienced w/ any other men, she is very likely to become sexually addicted. . .

Most women has never had PVO, which can be so intense n so prolonged that it's life-changing.

Bro WB

Bro WB, thanks indeed for sharing ideas and insights on men's fav topic.
Am really intrigued by the concept of 'PVO'.
How would you define PVO and where can one find more info on this subject ? cheers :):

saabking

25-10-2013, 08:32 PM

Just embark on a more challenging self mastery journey - will share in time to come..meanwhile..stay cool and always remember the importance of confidence and mastery

If she woke up extra early, waited 2 hours in the immigration so that she could come across the border to meet with you.

If she peel off her jeans and jump into bed at the first opportunity in the room so that you could snuggle up next to her.

If she let you know you are the one she cherished the most, and she would never give up.

Then, no matter how challenging this journey can be, one should persevere. ;)

warbird

27-10-2013, 03:59 PM

Quote from sifu WB post：“If a woman gives a man sexual pleasure he has never had w/ other women, it's very unlikely he will be addicted to her solely because of great sex. If he already likes her, he will like her more. If he doesn't already like her, he will still not like her, despite the great sex."

Yes, totally agreed.

Dear bro NMRN,

I suppose there will always be rare exceptions. A man may get addicted to a particular woman solely because of great sex.

Bro WB, thanks indeed for sharing ideas and insights on men's fav topic.
Am really intrigued by the concept of 'PVO'.
How would you define PVO and where can one find more info on this subject ? cheers :):

Dear bro city slicker,

PVO = Penetrative Vaginal Orgasm

IMHO, it's the most sustained, most 'full body,' most intense n most addictive form of orgasm...

If she woke up extra early, waited 2 hours in the immigration so that she could come across the border to meet with you.

If she peel off her jeans and jump into bed at the first opportunity in the room so that you could snuggle up next to her.

If she let you know you are the one she cherished the most, and she would never give up.

Then, no matter how challenging this journey can be, one should persevere. ;)

Dear bro saabking,

Even a 'Long March' is worth it...

Cheers!

Bro WB

tirak69

27-10-2013, 05:06 PM

Thumbs up to this thread. Bring back memories of my ktv days.

warbird

31-10-2013, 11:46 AM

Thumbs up to this thread. Bring back memories of my ktv days.

Dear bro tirak69,

Thank u! Pls share some of ur experiences. I'm sure I can learn a lot from u.

Cheers!

Bro WB

deathnitez

02-11-2013, 09:48 AM

warbird

02-11-2013, 11:29 AM

Morning bros, just went for an outing last night was thinking do you think some ppl are just trying too hard to proof themselves?? I was with this girl last night at this TD. I hang 50 bucks and she sat with me most of the time while the other guy hang like 500?? then the guys was like jealous or something....keep grapping the girl's hand and refuse to let her go....when she sat with me they kept looking at my table.... I mean come on is the girl's choice sigh.... what a way to show how gentlemen they are lol. :cool: Thats why i am not really into TDs.... Still having abit of hangover sorry for the bad english.

Dear bro deathnitez,

I really love ur story!! But I don't get it n need clarifications to make sure I get your story right.

You went to a TD (Thai Disco?) last night n u hung a girl $50. She sat w/ u most of the night. Whereas other guys (not one guy, but how many?) hung individually or collectively $500? And she ignored them almost completely n they became so angry n envious that they tried to grab her away from u?!! How did u react when they did that to ur girl? Perhaps they ran away like frightened little puppies w/ their tails between their legs, hahaha.

This is incredible! You must be the most dominant n coolest badass she had ever met. Do u also look like 潘安?

I presume u just met her n I also presume that she was very pretty. Even if it was 'love at first sight' for her, she would've whispered,

'My dearest deathnitez, even though I'm madly in love w/ u, those goons n retards over there hung lots of flowers for me tonight, it's my job n my obligation to go over there to sit w/ them, if I want to keep my job. After work, meet me at XXX n make passionate love to me...'

My only logical explanation for her most unusual behaviour is that you somehow hypnotized n controlled her completely, But even then, the boss of the joint would've intervened...did u hypnotize him n the other guys too?

If so, you're the most powerful person in the world, not Vladimir Putin.http://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinehoward/2013/10/30/the-worlds-most-powerful-people-2013/

I would appreciate more details on what actually happened.

Thanks,

Bro WB

deathnitez

02-11-2013, 03:31 PM

Actually i Doubt is love i guess our grp is more fun?? One example was previously I was in another TD. I saw this guy hang like 1000s of dollars at one of the girl which my friend hang?? She was like much happier with our grp then the other guys group. He tried to hang more but still the girl was happier with us. End up this guy with his buddies decides to have a brawl event with us..... I was like what the.... is her choice to have more fun with us then them so suck it.... End up everything was settle cause my friend got some connections... but really sigh lets no go too into it....:cool:

DO_YOU_BJ

02-11-2013, 04:12 PM

newbieboy

02-11-2013, 05:42 PM

Ever heard of them pulling such tactics to make the one that is trying to get her even more jealous & insecure so he'll do more to score more points in her book? This is a very normal reverse psychological tactic used between singers to clients & clients to singers in the HFJ scene.

Yup, have been used as a prop before for the above. No skin off my back, just enjoy the ride. :cool: they become even crazier when the girl gets close and chooses us to go for supper with. If you're smart don't fight it with money, the more you do, the deeper you fall. It's like poker, don't treat every hand you play like the last. Live to fight another day! :D 小强精神！

warbird

04-11-2013, 11:57 AM

Actually i Doubt is love i guess our grp is more fun?? One example was previously I was in another TD. I saw this guy hang like 1000s of dollars at one of the girl which my friend hang?? She was like much happier with our grp then the other guys group................End up this guy with his buddies decides to have a brawl event with us................end up everything was settle cause my friend got some connections... but really sigh lets no go too into it....

Dear bro, tks for ur clarification. Did u up the girl?

Ever heard of them pulling such tactics to make the one that is trying to get her even more jealous & insecure so he'll do more to score more points in her book? This is a very normal reverse psychological tactic used between singers to clients & clients to singers in the HFJ scene.

Dear Mr. Chairman,

Thanks for reminding us abt the tactics n mind game in the night scene.

Actually, they r used by all men, women n children, directly or indirectly, in everyday life hahaha.

Yup, have been used as a prop before for the above. No skin off my back, just enjoy the ride. :cool: they become even crazier when the girl gets close and chooses us to go for supper with. If you're smart don't fight it with money, the more you do, the deeper you fall. It's like poker, don't treat every hand you play like the last. Live to fight another day! :D 小强精神！

Dear bro newbieboy,

Acting as the unwitting decoy or shill for a pretty girl must be lots of fun haha. You're prefect for the role as you're always cool as cucumber.

Good advice bro. Spending money when one is jealous, emotional n angry is very risky to one's financial health haha.

I'll never forget abt our discussions on true love n PVO a few months ago. I hv been thinking n researching on these topics ever since...

I wish I had 1% of ur knowledge n sexperience when I was ur age!

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

Coming back to the situation where a customer is extremely perturbed because his intended target is spending much more time w/ a competitor who has spent much less money on her. It must hv happened to everyone of us, haha.

If a man becomes jealous n insecure, much worse if he gets visibly angry, aggressive n tries to grab her arms, he is acting like a little boy...do u think the girl will ever be subconsciously attracted to him? IMHO, never. Of course he can still get her body by throwing money at her if she works in the night scene. But he will always be repulsive to her primitive brain. Its a certainty.

How should he behave to turn the table on her? He should've acted as if nothing has happened, smiling n appearing very relaxed, n starts paying attention to other girls...hahaha. The girl would be shocked n awed n become very attracted to him, subconsciously, where it really counts.

In other words, he must hv excellent emotional control n self mastery...

Do u think u hv awesome self mastery? Really?

What if ur BELOVED legal wife or long-term GF/mistress/lover/er nai tells u, suddenly n unexpectedly, that she is leaving u for another man? She must be a pussy u love dearly n trust completely, otherwise it doesn't count. How would u react?? Be brutally honest w/ yourself.

That is when ur self mastery will be put to the litmus test hahaha. If u remain truly very relaxed, calm n smiling...congrats bro, you're invincible.

Cheers!

Bro WB

DO_YOU_BJ

04-11-2013, 02:10 PM

How should he behave to turn the table on her? He should've acted as if nothing has happened, smiling n appearing very relaxed, n starts paying attention to other girls...hahaha. The girl would be shocked n awed n become very attracted to him, subconsciously, where it really counts.

In other words, he must hv excellent emotional control n self mastery...

Dear Guru, pls allow 小弟 newbie noob me to share one of the incidents that I went thru 1st hand.

At a joint in duxton, got my sights set on a singer. Know from very credible intel plus my own eyes that 2 chaps we hanging her almost on a daily basis.

For 2 straight days, I bombed her. Whether the other 2 was around or not is really of no importance to me.

Day 3, the other 2 decided to start hanging. Reckon they did their homework & background check but never once hung more than 500 at a go.
So total hung were
Hanger 1 => 1.5k
Hanger 2 => 2.0k
Me = $0.00/- :D

After PPC, called for the bill & singer saw. She was very nervous & came over to ask me wats goin on. Am I angry or wat???
I simply replied, congrats, u hv so many supporters, happy for u. Prince LDH was there n laffing all the way for he knew it's showtime.
Best part was, while we stood up & was abt to leave, she appeared all clothes changed & seems tat she herself 卖场 to leave wif us :eek:

The rest was history. She was the top earner in the joint & her flower tally in tat joint has broken all records & understand its yet to be broken:p

saabking

04-11-2013, 09:16 PM

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In other words, he must hv excellent emotional control n self mastery...

Do u think u hv awesome self mastery? Really?

What if ur BELOVED legal wife or long-term GF/mistress/lover/er nai tells u, suddenly n unexpectedly, that she is leaving u for another man? She must be a pussy u love dearly n trust completely, otherwise it doesn't count. How would u react?? Be brutally honest w/ yourself.

That is when ur self mastery will be put to the litmus test hahaha. If u remain truly very relaxed, calm n smiling...congrats bro, you're invincible.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes - this is the topic of my research and experiment - LOL..i am on a journey to discover how much self-mastery and emotional control i can achieve..No a easy task mind you..but good to persevere and see where one can land.

PeteTsang69

05-11-2013, 08:42 AM

hi bro warbird ...long time no see ..am lover of this thread ...thot am KTV virgin :D

bros here love Mark Twain quotes ...give you 2 ....1st one is about being SMART :cool:

2nd one about being WISE, making it easier to let go and apply the the 1st quote ;)

He had discovered a great law of human action,
without knowing it - namely,
that in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing,
it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to obtain.

A human being
has a natural desire
to have more
of a good thing
than he needs.

warbird

05-11-2013, 10:59 AM

Dear Guru, pls allow 小弟 newbie noob me to share one of the incidents that I went thru 1st hand.

At a joint in duxton, got my sights set on a singer. Know from very credible intel plus my own eyes that 2 chaps we hanging her almost on a daily basis.

For 2 straight days, I bombed her. Whether the other 2 was around or not is really of no importance to me.

Day 3, the other 2 decided to start hanging. Reckon they did their homework & background check but never once hung more than 500 at a go.
So total hung were
Hanger 1 => 1.5k
Hanger 2 => 2.0k
Me = $0.00/- :D

After PPC, called for the bill & singer saw. She was very nervous & came over to ask me wats goin on. Am I angry or wat???
I simply replied, congrats, u hv so many supporters, happy for u. Prince LDH was there n laffing all the way for he knew it's showtime.
Best part was, while we stood up & was abt to leave, she appeared all clothes changed & seems tat she herself 卖场 to leave wif us :eek:

The rest was history. She was the top earner in the joint & her flower tally in tat joint has broken all records & understand its yet to be broken:

Dear Mr. Chairman,

Thank u for ur FR.

Your response to the two hangers' 3.5 K flowers "set u apart" from the crowd: "I simply replied, congrats, u hv so many supporters, happy for u." How did the losers respond? Did they finally throw in the towel? Hahaha...

Your FR strengthens my belief that a lot more than money is needed to get the highest quality girls. Getting that top singer was the collective results of ur experiences, strategies, maturity, psychological skills, n more importantly, ur mindset n dominance as reflected in ur body language n voice...in other words, u had more mojo n self mastery than the rest of the crowd.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes - this is the topic of my research and experiment - LOL..i am on a journey to discover how much self-mastery and emotional control i can achieve..No a easy task mind you..but good to persevere and see where one can land.

Dear bro saabking,

The good news is that we can always hv better emotional control n self mastery.

The bad news is that it's almost impossible to hv ABSOLUTE SELF MASTERY.

IMHO, the best quote on self mastery is:

"He who controls others may be powerful, but he who has mastered himself is mightier still." - Lao Tzu

Cheers!

Bro WB

hi bro warbird ...long time no see ..am lover of this thread ...thot am KTV virgin :D

bros here love Mark Twain quotes ...give you 2 ....1st one is about being SMART

2nd one about being WISE, making it easier to let go and apply the the 1st quote ;)

He had discovered a great law of human action,
without knowing it - namely,
that in order to make a man or a boy covet a thing,
it is only necessary to make the thing difficult to obtain.

A human being
has a natural desire
to have more
of a good thing
than he needs.

Dear bro PeteTsang69,

Thanks for the quotes. Women behave exactly the same hahaha. They also covet things they can't easily get...

Cheers!

Bro WB

john1981

08-11-2013, 10:33 PM

A nice documentary film introducing a world of players and playees..
it a cycle!!:D enjoy!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1pA0McgvM

warbird

09-11-2013, 12:26 PM

A nice documentary film introducing a world of players and playees..
it a cycle!!:D enjoy!!!!

Bro,

These 'hosts' are not players. They rank near the bottom in the Dominant Male scale, they r losers. I feel very sorry for them. I can't imagine wasting my time w/ women who aren't my type n I'm a lao chee ko pek hahaha.

I hv more to say abt them when I hv time.

Are there many bros who r envious of these 'hosts'?

Any comments, criticisms and dissenting views will be appreciated.

Good day!

Bro WB

deathnitez

10-11-2013, 01:35 PM

tirak69

10-11-2013, 08:50 PM

My 2 cents worth. I do find TD or HFJ ca be mentally draining at times. There are many fisherman trying to catch the same fish. You have to devise tactics to win her over and keep competition at bay. After all I do not look like Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt.

Age catching up perhaps. Sometimes I rather pay and get it over and done with.:D

fallen.angel

11-11-2013, 10:08 AM

aczeta76

12-11-2013, 11:31 PM

DO_YOU_BJ

13-11-2013, 02:28 AM

Bro DYBJ, u r back in action huh.

Good to read about all of u n wb after my long hiatus from sbf...

Been kept busy till now. :D

All of u all so much intel in HFJ... Aiyoh, how can solo cheongster like me survive

Can dun worry, solo is stealthy = more deadly :D
I retired lah bro & I quote
Dear Guru, pls allow 小弟 newbie noob me to share one of the incidents that I went thru 1st hand.

crood

13-11-2013, 08:10 AM

To think of it I feel is like us playing with girl and this girls we play with also gonna play with customer feelings indirectly. The only difference i feel about us to them(host) is we choose which girl we want to play with and the host have no choice to but get sales figures.

But like towards the end when the host says sometimes, the feeling of love is getting numb and sometimes i feel that way too. Just recently I made one of my favourite girl burst into total feats when i wanna break up with her as i got limited time to manage the amount of girls i have..... usually i will feel guilty but to my surprise this time I recovered much faster.

After all I still feel that feeling is just a word.... when you have that many girls which you have been with, love is not really necesary.... Just have summer love bang till you get bored then you go onto another. Making 3 girls cry in a week trust me is a total hell.....:cool:

So to end it all I still prefer to choose.

How to really love when her occupation is to fake GFE, facing endless guys everyday??

and how u can love when u have the moolah to change a new gal everyday?? U just see them as disposable underwear and throwing out after using it.

The routine goes on and there's only one word to describe it, numb!

When there is a game, there will always be a winner and a loser. U heard of crocodile tears?? This could be just because take so much effort to sharpen the knife yet carrot run off or hasn't chop enough yet. Don't tell me u believe they love u genuinely??!! U have more gals than u can handle but for them, there are endless supply of Roberts flocking to them everyday.

Count yourself is they cry and not you cry! By that time if pocket empty also "kao bo bak sai" ..... nothing to really boast about on the women u can use $$ to bed, the real prize is those have $$ also cant bed. :D

warbird

15-11-2013, 03:36 AM

To think of it I feel is like us playing with girl and this girls we play with also gonna play with customer feelings indirectly..................

After all I still feel that feeling is just a word.... when you have that many girls which you have been with, love is not really necesary..... Making 3 girls cry in a week trust me is a total hell....................-

Dear bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing ur experience.

Making 3 girls cry in a wk is good... if their cry is genuine. Girls enjoy strong emotions n what don't kill them will make them stronger haha.

My 2 cents worth. I do find TD or HFJ ca be mentally draining at times. There are many fisherman trying to catch the same fish. You have to devise tactics to win her over and keep competition at bay.........................

Dear bro tirak69,

Anything that is mentally draining is not healthy. Do something that is relaxing n fun...

This is stuff of legends and the reason why you are my idol - despite haven't had the chance and privilege to meet you in person!!

Dear bro FA,

He is a living legend in the HF circle.

Bro DYBJ, u r back in action huh.

Good to read about all of u n wb after my long hiatus from sbf...

Been kept busy till now.

All of u all so much intel in HFJ... Aiyoh, how can solo cheongster like me survive

Dear bro aczeta,

Mr Chairman is the master n mentor who has extensive connections n intel...

I'm just a trainee or mentee.

Can dun worry, solo is stealthy = more deadly :D
I retired lah bro & I quote

Dear Mr Chairman,

I feel honored that you still take my calls in ur 'retirement.' You're the man I consult when I need info on a singer haha.

How to really love when her occupation is to fake GFE, facing endless guys everyday??

and how u can love when u have the moolah to change a new gal everyday?? .........................................

When there is a game, there will always be a winner and a loser. U heard of crocodile tears?? This could be just because take so much effort to sharpen the knife yet carrot run off or hasn't chop enough yet. Don't tell me u believe they love u genuinely??!! U have more gals than u can handle but for them, there are endless supply of Roberts flocking to them everyday.

Count yourself is they cry and not you cry! By that time if pocket empty also "kao bo bak sai" ..... nothing to really boast about on the women u can use $$ to bed, the real prize is those have $$ also cant bed.......

Dear bro crood,

Tks for ur post.

I couldn't agree with u more. Where is the challenge?

Luckily, there r still a few women out there who want more than money before they spread their legs...

BTW, bedding a desirable woman should only be the 1st step. The mission is to get them sexually addicted to YOU n only YOU.

.................................................. ............

Greetings from Gotham City!

I was thinking abt why some men would pay big buck to ST or BY very ordinary women. I don't need to cite examples, we hv all seen them.

Yesterday I received an e-mail from a guru on seduction, the danger of getting too attached to any one woman n why men should never chase women...which struck a chord with me.

Hi Bro Warbird,

................................I was reminded of one of the most important lessons of both sales and seduction then: don't over-invest in any one prospect, and don't get too attached.

The rookie's folly, of course, is that he allows himself to get too attached to one prospect.

One prospect who is guaranteed to give him precisely nothing.

Rookie salesmen and seducers alike are flying blind through inexperience, and struggling with desperation and an utter lack of abundance mentality. Thus, when they strike upon a customer or a girl who shows even a smidgen of interest, they very often do their best to latch their claws on, and pull out all the stops to try to close the sale.

And there begins the process of investing too much in a girl, and getting too attached to a girl.

Though there are a few exceptions, by and large attachment is formed in direct proportion to the amount of emotional "pursuit" energy you put into a thing.

The more you allow something to affect you emotionally as you pursue it, the more attached to it you will become.

That's why I tell men don't chase women. When you're chasing women, not only are you causing them to flee (you can't give chase if she isn't running first), but you're also getting yourself tied up in emotional knots... that are going to bind you to her.

Except, it's not a two-way bind.

You don't bind her to you by getting emotionally attached to her yourself. To the contrary... the more emotionally attached to a girl you become, generally, the less attached (and interested) she'll be in you.

The more time you spend emotionally pursuing something or someone - and any time you even vaguely "want" something, it's emotional, at least to some degree - the more power you give that something or someone over you.

And what happens when someone has power over you?

She realizes it................................................ .......

I can look at how a girl's interacting with me and tell you almost instantly if she's wasting my time (that is, trying to slot me into a role in her life I'm not interested in occupying) or not. When you're new, you do not have this ability. I certainly didn't always have it.

In fact, I'd say it probably took me a few years of dating lots of different women before I was able to get a fairly reliable read on when my time was being wasted and when any difficulties I was seeing were just the vagaries of life and the girl herself was still interested and committed to moving things ahead.

So there is some amount of paying your dues to get there.

Every rookie salesman wastes time with customers who lead him on and lead him on and never pan out, or wear him down into giving them the deal of a lifetime - and one he ends up regretting having given them later.

Likewise, every rookie ladies' man wastes time with women who lead him on and lead him on and never pan out, or wear him down into accepting a "just friends" role with them, or quietly waiting in the background for her to finish up with her string of all-wrong bad boy hookups and realize that, really, he was the one she wanted all along, she just hadn't seen it (cue romantic music).

These experiences get coded into your memory as "lessons", and you need them there to stand as examples of what not to do, and where you don't want to end up going again in the future.

So don't think you're going to have a few hookups or a girlfriend or two under your belt and be immune to this. It takes time, experience, and getting burned at least a handful of times first before your radar really starts going up and getting attuned to the proper signals.....................................

Those caveats aside, let's talk about the one rule to follow to ensure you don't end up getting too attached to a girl:

As the time it takes to bed her INCREASES, the effort you put into doing so must DECREASE.

Most men take the opposite tack.

For most guys, as the time they put into a girl goes up, the effort into her remains constant, or goes up too.

And that's how chasing happens. An escalating or never-decreasing level of investment as a woman stretches things out and strings the man along.

Likewise in sales - a customer stretches things out longer and longer, piling on more and more demands, and rookie salesmen continue investing the same levels of effort, or more.

My advice - both to greenhorn sellers, and to new-to-the-game seducers - is to reduce your effort in direct proportion to the amount of time that's gone by and investment that's been asked of you.

Getting too attached to a girl before she's yours leads to:

You chasing hard (and her running away)
You becoming tentative and awkward; her meaning more and more to you
You becoming an emotional mess, subject to the whims of her availability
You passing up loads of opportunities with other, more interested women

That last one's the real kicker. All the time you spend chasing a woman with an ever-decreasing probability of ending up with you (the longer the courtship, the less likely it is to ever be consummated) could have been spent on women with a much higher probability of ending up yours - including women prettier, smarter, more fun, and more amazing than the girl you've currently fallen into the attachment trap with.

In sales, you miss out on more and better sales by wasting time on finicky customers who probably aren't going your way anyway, or are going to give you something that's not really worth the time and effort you put into it if you soldier on through and finally get it.

The same is so in seduction - sacrifice your time and energy for a girl you've messed up on or who is not very interested, and you will end up paying $500 for a $10 item.

Don't let yourself get too attached. Be cognizant of when you're spinning your wheels, and decrease effort as time increases.
Then instead of wasting time, you'll save it - and save yourself from the draining emotions of chasing after women who aren't interested (or have lost interest), too....................................

Best,

Your Guru

"You will end up paying $500 for a $10 item." Hahaha, that is how many men hv ended up paying much more than what some women are really worth.

IMHO, never ever get too attached to any one woman, regardless of your RS w/ her n whether you've known her for 3 minutes or 30 yrs, hahaha.

Have a great day!!

Bro WB

radiskull

15-11-2013, 07:43 AM

saabking

15-11-2013, 09:14 AM

PeteTsang69

15-11-2013, 11:00 AM

IMHO, never ever get too attached to any one woman, regardless of your RS w/ her n whether you've known her for 3 minutes or 30 yrs, hahaha.

:D ha ha ha ..think its your DNA ..or more correctly , it's in our DNA ...

since this is the most "educational" thread in SBF ...maybe timely reminder of the "coolidge effect"...

here's the joke ...

The President and Mrs. Coolidge were being shown [separately] around an experimental government farm.

When [Mrs. Coolidge] came to the chicken yard she noticed that a rooster was mating very frequently.

She asked the attendant how often that happened and was told, "Dozens of times each day."

Mrs. Coolidge said, "Tell that to the President when he comes by."

Upon being told, President asked, "Same hen every time?"

The reply was, "Oh, no, Mr. President, a different hen every time."

President: "Tell that to Mrs. Coolidge."

here's the study behind the joke ...

A male rat was placed into an enclosed large box with four or five female rats in heat.

He immediately began to mate with all the female rats again and again until eventually he became exhausted.

The females continued nudging and licking him, yet he did not respond.

When a novel female was introduced into the box, he became alert and began to mate once again with the new female.

Human males experience a refractory period after sex.

After ejaculation, males generally lose their erection, presumably to avoid displacing their own semen from the vagina.

However, this post-ejaculatory refractory period is reduced or eliminated if a novel female becomes available.

This effect is cited by evolutionary biologists as evidence that males are more likely to be re-aroused by a novel sexual partner (and so desire sex with a greater number and variety of partners than females).

of course i felt this many times ...initially felt guilty, thought i was "unfaithfull", just after great time upstairs, exhausting long rounds ..

but down in the lobby straight away was excited again seeing someone "novel" ...:D

now i know there's a science to explain ...my "natural" feelings :D

warbird

16-11-2013, 03:43 AM

Bro warbird

That's why I tell men don't chase women. When you're chasing women, not only are you causing them to flee (you can't give chase if she isn't running first), but you're also getting yourself tied up in emotional knots... that are going to bind you to her.

Except, it's not a two-way bind.

You don't bind her to you by getting emotionally attached to her yourself. To the contrary... the more emotionally attached to a girl you become, generally, the less attached (and interested) she'll be in you.

The more time you spend emotionally pursuing something or someone - and any time you even vaguely "want" something, it's emotional, at least to some degree - the more power you give that something or someone over you.

And what happens when someone has power over you?

What u said is really true. And it applies in real life. I chase a girl too hard and now she has the power over me. Too emotionally attached to her now. Causing too much pain and I really need to break free as it's driving me crazy

Dear bro rediskull,

That is really bad news! The good news? You're in great company haha. You're one of the billions of men, in the last 5 thousand yrs of recorded history, who find themselves in this painful predicament.

Let me repeat. If a man is more emotionally attached to a woman than she is to him, he is the one caring more in the RS, he will lose power n she will become less n less attracted to him. What happens next is predictable. He will become needy n desperate for her affection n company...like a drowning man trying to cling to anything that will keep him afloat. And how would she react? She will lose whatever attraction n affection she had for him initially...very soon she will find him repulsive n would break away asap hahaha.

What I hv described is true whether he has been w/ her 30 minutes or 30 yrs. I hv seen a rich, tall n handsome SG friend who was dumped by an ugly PRC whore in her 30s simply cuz he lost his control n power in the RS. He was madly in love w/ her! He even offered to give her money upfront n marry her!! I would say he kena gong tao. She despised him n flatly rejected him n chose to continue to be a whore back in PRC!!

Take home lesson? A man must hv power in any RS, n he should be the one who cares the least n he must be prepared to walk out for good, no matter how much he loves the woman.

Hope + Uncertainty = Attraction (Passion)

Understanding this formula is more important than your looks, height, age, status, money, intelligence, education, masculinity, personality, character, skills, strategies, experience, etc put together. And if u could give her PVO, more prolonged n more intense than any other men, she will be sexually n emotionally addicted to u, even if u look like the Hunchback of Notre Dame, hahaha.

Where is ur emotional control n self mastery?

Bro, STOP contacting the woman who is causing u pain. Never ever ctc her again. Let her make the first move. If she doesn't, forget her n find other younger, prettier n safer pussies. If she is living w/ u now, give her 24 hrs to move out, hahaha. Be firm n heartless. Doing so gives u the best chance to turn the table on her n for her to become attracted to u. She may even fall for u soon. There r no other ways.

LOL..now i feel like making my gal cry too..and see her raw emotions..;)

Dear bro saabking,

Give her strong emotions, the good the bad n the ugly, n she will fall for u.

:D ha ha ha ..think its your DNA ..or more correctly , it's in our DNA ...

since this is the most "educational" thread in SBF ...maybe timely reminder of the "coolidge effect".............................

of course i felt this many times ...initially felt guilty, thought i was "unfaithfull", just after great time upstairs, exhausting long rounds ..

but down in the lobby straight away was excited again seeing someone "novel" ...:D

now i know there's a science to explain ...my "natural" feelings :D

Dear bro PeteTsang69,

Tks for ur post. You're a healthy n normal man.

Cheers!

................................

Good morning!

Never ever forget this:

"The same is so in seduction - sacrifice your time and energy for a girl you've messed up on or who is not very interested, and you will end up paying $500 for a $10 item."

Do the opposite n do a bit of searching n you may pay $10 for a $500 item, hahaha,

Best,

Bro WB

radiskull

16-11-2013, 02:36 PM

LookingGuy

17-11-2013, 01:38 AM

Reading this make me feel so much better. I'm not alone.

I'm going to restore my pride and dignity from today. Knn make me suffered so much. Even pangsai also think of her. Going to break free from her witchcraft.

To all the bro suffering out there. U are not alone. It's time to wake up and be a man again

Very meaningful thread. Especially some of the knowledge/wisdom shared here about not being a 贩贱的男人. So many guys my age put the pussy on a pedestal, and act like dogs or pets in order to humor a woman.

I myself have also experienced a lot of heartbreak, been manipulated and eaten (was a total carrot when I was younger). Look forward to learning from more experienced bros on emotional control, self-mastery, and being a better and more successful man overall. Thanks for the stories and knowledge shared so far! Have enjoyed reading it.

MrStyleKing

17-11-2013, 02:20 AM

Nice story TS! ;)

deathnitez

18-11-2013, 10:20 AM

Dear bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing ur experience.

Making 3 girls cry in a wk is good... if their cry is genuine. Girls enjoy strong emotions n what don't kill them will make them stronger haha.

Hi Bro WB,

yeah tbh sometimes I myself is not sure about geniune but I do know the girl which was one of fav make a super big feat on her FB Line Wechat and Whatsapp with her statues comments and postings. Her friend keep asking her what happen HAHAHA I am not sure to be happy or sad but I told her let just be friends okay she still can't wtf..... not bf gf cannot be friends....

Anyway why do these girls still call me a good guy... I was in TD "which i seriously don't like" cause of my friend. I get to know a girl. She sat with me, out of boredom I started to dance to thai music which i seriously don't know how to dance but my exp with redum helps. We dance together then again the girl call me a good guy follow up some other girls came and join us. That night alone i got a few girls number and I only tip the first girl....

Just a question does dancing actually in a way trigger their emotions?? Anyway i am not planning to follow up with any of the girls.... one thai girl is enough to suck me dry....:cool:

deathnitez

18-11-2013, 10:37 AM

How to really love when her occupation is to fake GFE, facing endless guys everyday??

and how u can love when u have the moolah to change a new gal everyday?? U just see them as disposable underwear and throwing out after using it.

The routine goes on and there's only one word to describe it, numb!

When there is a game, there will always be a winner and a loser. U heard of crocodile tears?? This could be just because take so much effort to sharpen the knife yet carrot run off or hasn't chop enough yet. Don't tell me u believe they love u genuinely??!! U have more gals than u can handle but for them, there are endless supply of Roberts flocking to them everyday.

Count yourself is they cry and not you cry! By that time if pocket empty also "kao bo bak sai" ..... nothing to really boast about on the women u can use $$ to bed, the real prize is those have $$ also cant bed. :D

Hi Crood,

So far i have face a few which literally rejected my offer after ahem with them. Is weird but tbh is nothing to be proud of. Sometimes i see these girls I am not sure to pity them or what but I still try to treat them with humanity.

One exp which i will never forget is after ahem i offer, she reject but i counter offer by saying "use the money for grooming yourself more pretty the next time i see you which you already are." she still rejects. after 3 tries I gave up. thats one of the experience which i will never forget. But end up I broke up with her as my heart is still with another....:cool:

warbird

20-11-2013, 07:48 AM

Reading this make me feel so much better. I'm not alone.

I'm going to restore my pride and dignity from today. Knn make me suffered so much. Even pangsai also think of her. Going to break free from her witchcraft...........................

Dear bro radiskull,

Even the most experienced player may get KC-ed when he meets his 'dream girl,' hahaha.

The best defence is to hv abundance mindset n believe that younger, prettier, fresher n safer girls r lining up for you...

Very meaningful thread. ............So many guys my age put the pussy on a pedestal, and act like dogs or pets in order to humor a woman.

I myself have also experienced a lot of heartbreak, been manipulated and eaten (was a total carrot when I was younger). Look forward to learning from more experienced bros on emotional control, self-mastery, and being a better and more successful man overall..........................

Dear bro LookingGuy,

Tks for ur post.

No man has a monopoly on emotional control n self mastery. There is room for improvement for everyone.

Hi Bro WB,

yeah tbh sometimes I myself is not sure about geniune but I do know the girl which was one of fav make a super big feat on her FB Line Wechat and Whatsapp with her statues comments and postings..........................

Just a question does dancing actually in a way trigger their emotions?? Anyway i am not planning to follow up with any of the girls.... one thai girl is enough to suck me dry....

Dear bro deathnitez,

Yes, dancing does trigger their emotions n fantasies. I'll explain below.

.................................................. ................

Good morning!

I believe that bros who can sing well n dance well hv an advantage in attracting n seducing beautiful women or pretty SYTs at their subconscious level, at least initially.

Most women don't even know why n don't see any connection between dancing n sexual attraction hahaha. Of course a good dancer could turn out to be a big disappointment later hahhaha.

Let me let u in on a secret which very few people know. The reason is because good dancers n good singers r perceived to hv good RHYTHM.

Good RHYTHM is crucial if u want to give a woman the most incredible PVO. With Good RHYTHM u put her in a trance n set her up for the most intense n explosive PVO hahaha.

BTW, I searched SBF n couldn't find anything on rhythm n female orgasm/satisfaction? Are we SG men all robots?

Unfortunately, I don't sing n I don't dance well. I hv to learn to improve my rhythm slowly n painstakingly...the goal is to merge my rhythm w/ hers...when two shall become one flesh.

Of course it takes a lot more than just rhythm...

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

20-11-2013, 04:13 PM

warbird

21-11-2013, 04:31 AM

RHYTHM? I’ve got good rhythm. Hehehe. I can sing and love to sing and I love to listen to the singers sing. Not all of them can sing though. Ironically, the worst singers get the most flowers. And they say: dancing is a vertical expression of a horizontal desire.

Dear bro FA,

Great quote!

"Dancing: The vertical expression of a horizontal desire legalized by music." — George Bernard Shaw

Singing is not as powerful as dancing. Do u dance well? If u do, u hv an unfair advantage in attracting girls, at least initially.

Dancing is definitely sexual. Even folk dancing by adolescent girls has sexual undertone.

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ....................

Good morning!

After much thought, I think the formula, Hope + Uncertainty (Doubt) = Attraction (Passion), should be modified.

The new formula is Hope X Doubt = Attraction

If u give a girl no Hope or zero Hope for the future, her attraction for u will eventually be zero, as in 0 X Doubt = 0.

If u hv confessed ur eternal love for a girl or if you're in a legal marriage, u hv removed all Doubt(s) n Uncertainty has dropped close to zero or zero. Despite very high Hope(s) for the future for both of u, Hope X 0 = 0. No wonder there is sky high divorce rates n very unhappy long-term RS.

A man must balance the right amt of Hope n Doubt to maintain n sustain Attraction, whether he has been w/ the girl/woman 30 min or 30 yrs.
Your comments n criticisms?

Another recent encounter. A few days before leaving for Gotham City, I saw a singer XH who could be my type, at a high end joint. I was in a rm w/ two esteemed bros. My ex mistress CY was also in the rm. I told the waitress to get XH. She came n sat w/ me. Her singing was good but not great. She is 20, 168, fair, proportionate body. Unfortunately her boobs were only B? I like her voice n her youthfulness.

Two days later, I booked her for HH at a PC joint. I wanted to ST her, she said she would never do ST regardless of my offer haha. I offered to BY her. I was brutally frank abt my intentions n her purpose of coming to SG. She nodded n said she would consider.

The next day, she said OK for BY. I suggested two options: 1) I buy all her slots so she doesn't work plus I give her some extra, quite costly. 2) She continues to work n the terms r negotiable, much less expensive.

She said Option 2 better. She only wanted some living expenses, no need to hang flowers or buying her slots. Said she would never fuck other men. I said: 你可以和客人去宵夜，she thought I said no supper n replied: 啊不能去宵夜？！I said: 当然可以. I told her I would test her w/ Oraquick n send her to KK n hinted that I would fuck her raw. She said not a problem. I would start the RS when I return from Gotham City in a month.

I hv had very little experience w/ singers as I sleep early, a great disadvantage. But she is one of the very few singers of my type I hv seen in the last few yrs in SG. Two clear n present risks. Firstly, whether I 'll still like her when she is stark naked n whether I can make her cum n cum. Secondly, whether she will fuck other men. To mitigate the risks, I'll pay her weekly haha. If the 'living expenses' r low enough, I'll treat it like a serial STs or packaged STs. If she fucks her men, I'll drop her. Of course, I'll check my sources to see if she has a BF when I return.

Any better options? Just drop her? I can take it or leave it haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

crood

21-11-2013, 07:57 AM

Hi Crood,

So far i have face a few which literally rejected my offer after ahem with them. Is weird but tbh is nothing to be proud of. Sometimes i see these girls I am not sure to pity them or what but I still try to treat them with humanity.

One exp which i will never forget is after ahem i offer, she reject but i counter offer by saying "use the money for grooming yourself more pretty the next time i see you which you already are." she still rejects. after 3 tries I gave up. thats one of the experience which i will never forget. But end up I broke up with her as my heart is still with another....:cool:

If she's not a FL and u offer her $$ right after sex, it's could be quite an insult for women. :)

deathnitez

22-11-2013, 08:42 PM

If she's not a FL and u offer her $$ right after sex, it's could be quite an insult for women. :)

Sorry actually i am still not sure what is the diff with FL or WL can someone explain. But that time I was thinking since she works in such places most likely she would want money. Maybe she is trying to fish but hmmm I am not sure.:cool:

saabking

22-11-2013, 09:33 PM

Dear bro FA,

Great quote!

"Dancing: The vertical expression of a horizontal desire legalized by music." — George Bernard Shaw

Singing is not as powerful as dancing. Do u dance well? If u do, u hv an unfair advantage in attracting girls, at least initially.

Dancing is definitely sexual. Even folk dancing by adolescent girls has sexual undertone.

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ....................

Good morning!

After much thought, I think the formula, Hope + Uncertainty (Doubt) = Attraction (Passion), should be modified.

The new formula is Hope X Doubt = Attraction

If u give a girl no Hope or zero Hope for the future, her attraction for u will eventually be zero, as in 0 X Doubt = 0.

If u hv confessed ur eternal love for a girl or if you're in a legal marriage, u hv removed all Doubt(s) n Uncertainty has dropped close to zero or zero. Despite very high Hope(s) for the future for both of u, Hope X 0 = 0. No wonder there is sky high divorce rates n very unhappy long-term RS.

A man must balance the right amt of Hope n Doubt to maintain n sustain Attraction, whether he has been w/ the girl/woman 30 min or 30 yrs.
Your comments n criticisms?

Another recent encounter. A few days before leaving for Gotham City, I saw a singer XH who could be my type, at a high end joint. I was in a rm w/ two esteemed bros. My ex mistress CY was also in the rm. I told the waitress to get XH. She came n sat w/ me. Her singing was good but not great. She is 20, 168, fair, proportionate body. Unfortunately her boobs were only B? I like her voice n her youthfulness.

Two days later, I booked her for HH at a PC joint. I wanted to ST her, she said she would never do ST regardless of my offer haha. I offered to BY her. I was brutally frank abt my intentions n her purpose of coming to SG. She nodded n said she would consider.

The next day, she said OK for BY. I suggested two options: 1) I buy all her slots so she doesn't work plus I give her some extra, quite costly. 2) She continues to work n the terms r negotiable, much less expensive.

She said Option 2 better. She only wanted some living expenses, no need to hang flowers or buying her slots. Said she would never fuck other men. I said: 你可以和客人去宵夜，she thought I said no supper n replied: 啊不能去宵夜？！I said: 当然可以. I told her I would test her w/ Oraquick n send her to KK n hinted that I would fuck her raw. She said not a problem. I would start the RS when I return from Gotham City in a month.

I hv had very little experience w/ singers as I sleep early, a great disadvantage. But she is one of the very few singers of my type I hv seen in the last few yrs in SG. Two clear n present risks. Firstly, whether I 'll still like her when she is stark naked n whether I can make her cum n cum. Secondly, whether she will fuck other men. To mitigate the risks, I'll pay her weekly haha. If the 'living expenses' r low enough, I'll treat it like a serial STs or packaged STs. If she fucks her men, I'll drop her. Of course, I'll check my sources to see if she has a BF when I return.

Any better options? Just drop her? I can take it or leave it haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

LOL...Warbird's Law Hope X Doubt = Attraction ..is as universal as Newton's laws..

Totally agree..that's y sometimes need to create doubt and explore the emotional possibilities of fear..

Hope & Fear - the basic emotions that move markets..:D

warbird

25-11-2013, 03:29 AM

LOL...Warbird's Law Hope X Doubt = Attraction ..is as universal as Newton's laws..

Totally agree..that's y sometimes need to create doubt and explore the emotional possibilities of fear..

Hope & Fear - the basic emotions that move markets..:D

Dear bro saabking,

You're spot on.

Women thrive on strong emotions. If u give them more hope, they will get greedier...if u give them more doubt, they will get more fearful, because they don't want to lose ur support n the intense PVO u hv given them hahaha.

Fear is the most powerful emotion. Greed is a distant 2nd.

If u say no or reject a girl, say for BY, u must keep her hopes alive, otherwise she will just give up on u for good.

Cheers!

Bro WB

............................................

Good morning!

Another FR. This time picking up inside a KTV.

A few days ago I reconnected w/ a young woman RJ who is getting her undergraduate degree at a UK university next yr.

I first met RJ at TAM 1st fl over 1 1/2 years ago. I saw her in the hall n quickly got her ctc. I didn't book her as I had a mistress n another girl w/ me. I called her two days later to ask for ST. She said NO. I then offered BY n she replied that she was finishing her education in SG n returning to China very soon. Besides, I had too many tall SYTs already, she said. I got her QQ anyway. Couldn't see her pics as password was required. i didn't follow up.

A few months later she sent me a text msg n asked how I was doing. I asked if she was coming back to SG soon to be my woman haha. No, she was flying to the UK to study next wk. I looked up her QQ pics (she unlocked for me) n realized how pretty n sexy she was. She was 23 then, abt 170, B/C cup? Very proportionate body with shapely, beautiful ass. I visualized giving her frequent PVO she had never, ever experienced before haha. I bemoaned the fact that she was so far away.

She sent me another QQ msg 9 months ago n gave me her UK HP no. I never called her even though she said she could meet me if I go to see her in London. she was spending most of her waking time studying...

A few days ago, I registered for a new WhatApp w/ my Gotham phone n I came across RJ as being available. We had a long chat in English. She is Hakka Han, from 广东梅州. I hv never BYed a 客家人.

She sent me newer photos n added me to her Wechat. She has never been BYed. She has a regular BF now who doesn't give her any support. She is from a middle class family. She is not in love w/ her BF n will not marry him after graduation. To me, that means he is NOT giving her any PVO hahaha. If she had told me she didn't hv a BF, she would be lying or she is a lesbian. I can't believe such a pretty n sexy girl w/o a BF. I told her to get a good job in SG n become my mistress next yr. I told her I hv only one er nai at this time. She said she would seriously consider hahaha. She would be different from all my other mistresses because she is better educated n has a degree from the UK. Like a bro says, intelligent n educated women r attractive. And she is my type in looks n figure.

Good day!

Bro WB

warbird

01-12-2013, 04:04 AM

Good morning!

I'm going to be very blunt n brutally honest.

In the era of AIDS, our lives literally depend on the faithfulness of our women/GFs/wives/mistresses/lovers. Women cheat as much as men, but they r much better in concealing their affairs haha. Over 50% of legal wives cheat. Local SG girls cheat just as much as maligned PRC n Thai girls.

A few days ago, a good kaki of mine was to up a pretty n tall local SYT in a well known 5-star hotel. She was very expensive n was said to be my type too. My kaki was late because he had to park in another nearby hotel. He ran but was still over 25 mins late n the girl got very nervous, cried n left. According to the OKT, she was a 'very good girl' n had a new local BF n she didn't want him to get suspicious! I know this hotel very well n there is valet parking!

How do u 'cheat proof' your women? Be vigilant n maintain a high index of suspicion. NEVER be complacent whether you hv been w/ her 2 days or 20 yrs. Most importantly...her degree of emotional n sexual connection/addiction w/ and for you. In doubt, don't hesitate to engage a reputable PI.

I hv mentioned the importance of making deep emotional connection w/ your women n that this connection, no matter how seemly strong n secure, can't last forever without strong sexual connection and/or addiction as well.

I hv also mentioned that the most powerful n fastest way for a woman to get sexually addicted is regular, intense n prolonged PVO. IMHO, the 2nd most powerful way is to give her masterful cunnilingus n make her come n come. It's even more powerful If u know how to give simultaneous stimulation of her G/deep spot n anus, the so-called trigasm. Making a woman sexually addicted to you takes time, perhaps minimum of 3 to 6 months or longer of staying together...

One factor that has not been well discussed, nor well understood, is the right balance of dopamine n oxytocin in inducing sexual addiction. Too much in one may upset the balance n may disrupt the addictive process. Unfortunately, this is very complex n there r many other variables, depending on both partners n the activities, inside n outside of bedroom..

Any comments?

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

02-12-2013, 09:49 AM

Totally agree that local sg gals cheat as much as the PRC n Thai gals. How do you “cheat-proof” your women? It depends. Every woman and every situation is different – are you talking about a 19 year old gf the 2 of you just got together, or a 40+ year old wife/mother you have been married to for 2 decades? I have seen very stanch, mother of pre-teen kids, with very very strict upbringing cheat. I know another 40+ woman (wife’s best friend) who will cheat at the drop of the hat with a guy she liked decades ago – heck, they may already have for all I know and the other guy doesn’t even know she’s married with a schooling kid!! I’ve have had my fair share of being ogled by matured women, ugly ones, at Shanghai Dolly, trying to pick me up even when I was there with a group of PRC gals. And then there’s the 19 year old FL I was to meet last week – yes, I’m the “good kaki” LOL I’ll be bonking her later this week.

How to “cheat-proof”? I don’t know… I don’t have a fool-proof method but all I know is that women cheat because its in their nature (some of them) or by circumstances. What I know though, is how to detect and catch them. I always tell my subordinates at work: you want to catch a thief/fraud, think like one. If you don’t think like one (and put yourself in his/her shoes), you’ll never catch one cos a cheat/thief/fraud will always conceal and cover their tracks to avoid detection and being caught. If we eat out ourselves, it makes us good detectives to begin with. The worst enemy for the cheater is complacency. We give it to them. By being “ignorant” and nonchalant. Take your time and let the other party let down their guard. Never raise their suspicion by raising yours. There’s a Chinese saying… you’ll bound to meet the tiger if you go up the mountains often enough.

Her phone is the place where you’ll find most of the evidences – she will guard it with her life. Her change in behaviour. Change in routines. Are there periods of time of the day/night where she’s uncontactable? Change in dressing. More conscious of her appearance, body, etc. Check her phone bill/phone records. Look for changes in patterns. Is sex different now – routines, patterns, positions, frequencies, etc. When you suspect something, DO NOT act on it immediately. Resist the urge to react. Keep your cool and act normal. DO NOT raise any alarms of hers.

Anyways, I could go on and on but that’s not my forte or the purpose of this thread but I do think that its more than sexual and emotional connection – money comes into play too.

fallen.angel

02-12-2013, 01:50 PM

Btw bro Warbird, BY the 海歸女! I'd love a learned mistress who has been educated in UK, with looks to boot! She will be a 女神 when she returns to China

warbird

05-12-2013, 04:30 AM

Totally agree that local sg gals cheat as much as the PRC n Thai gals. How do you “cheat-proof” your women? It depends. Every woman and every situation is different – ..................................And then there’s the 19 year old FL I was to meet last week – yes, I’m the “good kaki” LOL I’ll be bonking her later this week.

How to “cheat-proof”? I don’t know… I don’t have a fool-proof method but all I know is that women cheat because its in their nature (some of them) or by circumstances. What I know though, is how to detect and catch them...................................By being “ignorant” and nonchalant. Take your time and let the other party let down their guard. Never raise their suspicion by raising yours. There’s a Chinese saying… you’ll bound to meet the tiger if you go up the mountains often enough.

Her phone is the place where you’ll find most of the evidences – she will guard it with her life. Her change in behaviour. Change in routines. Are there periods of time of the day/night where she’s uncontactable? Change in dressing. More conscious of her appearance, body, etc. Check her phone bill/phone records. Look for changes in patterns. Is sex different now – routines, patterns, positions, frequencies, etc. When you suspect something, DO NOT act on it immediately. Resist the urge to react. Keep your cool and act normal. DO NOT raise any alarms of hers.............................................b ut I do think that its more than sexual and emotional connection – money comes into play too.

Dear bro FA,

Thank you for ur excellent n informative post.

Actually women/girls 'cheat' as much as men, but for slightly different reasons. They r more 'emotionally-driven' hahaha. I've read some research articles on this subject n will give a summary later.

If u call ur women/girl n she doesn't answer for one full hr, be very, very suspicious. If it happens twice, u should assume she is fucking someone else until proven otherwise. If she is a mistress or GF, just walk away asap!

In the unfortunate case that you hv been w/ her for many yrs (she is ur legal spouse or favourite mistress, for example), u may want to investigate to be 100% sure. If there is supporting evidence as detailed by bro FA, there is no need to investigate, dump her or divorce her asap. Life is too short to waste any more time. There r so many younger n prettier girls waiting for u!!

Yeah, money may be a major factor, especially if the woman is a WL.

Btw bro Warbird, BY the 海歸女! I'd love a learned mistress who has been educated in UK, with looks to boot! She will be a 女神 when she returns to China

Yes bro. I know she will be my mistress soon if I really want her. She is getting her BA (Hons) International Business Management. Her looks n figure r good but not outstanding n she is 25. She says that I may not like her very much as she knows my taste for young n pretty SYTs.

I know that you're going to up that local SYT soon. Good luck!

BTW, I 'm watching a Jap TV show n I like Eikura Nana very much. She is 25, 170, but boobs only B? Not that pretty but very cute. Very proportionate figure n big nice ass. Can't even find a nude pic on Google. You need to see how she walk as pics don't do justice to her sexual charm. I'll tell 'u know who' to get her for ST haha. Interested? Not ur type? I'm afraid our OKT may not be able to get her at any price.

Cheers!

Bro WB

PeteTsang69

05-12-2013, 03:38 PM

warbird

07-12-2013, 08:40 AM

bro wb

picture is a crude fanatasy ....what's on her face? :D

http://sleepyjohn.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/nana-eikura-cute-japanese-gravure-idol-in-white-tank-top-shorts-hot-japanese-girl-tall-slender-petite-tiny-breasts-legs-japanese-lolita-picture-005.jpg

Bro PeteTsang69,

I can't see the pic. Pls post the correct link.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

Bro FA upped the tall local SYT but she wasn't exactly his type.

As for Eikura Nana, my OKT XX is not able to get her, unfortunately. He honestly doesn't think she is pretty. Perhaps, but I find her very cute n attractive. I like her body and the way she walks...I'll hv to contact my Japanese friends.

In the meantime, I sent a sms to a Eikura lookalike SS, one of my ex mistresses whom I last BY-ed over 3 yrs ago. First met her in early 2010 (see post #807 http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=133505&page=54). She was a singer at a major joint then, but returned to PRC shortly thereafter due to urgent family problems haha. I knew what happened but it was confidential. Came back late 2010 n I BY-ed her again. I stopped my BY after one month because she was mostly silent during sex. She was very upset...later I said NO to her request for BY even when she voluntarily lowered her monthly allowance by 30%. I managed to do ST with her a few times since, the last time in late 2011.

When I called earlier this yr she said she was kept by a local man n couldn't see me. Same HP number though. She had stopped responding to my QQ. Yesterday I sent a sms from Gotham City n she replied: 你是谁？I identified myself n she was very surprised. I asked if I could see her on my return to SG, she said to contact her when I'm actually in SG. She added that I had broken my promises in the past n that she didn't believe I really wanted to see her again.

YY is now 26, 171, abt 52 Kg. She was actually prettier than Eikura, at least 2-3 yrs ago, though not as cute. Very similar body figure w/ same nice ass n same gait...swing her ass exactly the same way haha. There is another reason I want to up her again. I hv greatly improved my mindset n skills since I last fucked her 2 yrs ago. Can I give her wild screaming orgasms now? There is only one way to find out haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

crood

07-12-2013, 09:14 AM

If u call ur women/girl n she doesn't answer for one full hr, be very, very suspicious. If it happens twice, u should assume she is fucking someone else until proven otherwise. If she is a mistress or GF, just walk away asap!

Bro WB

What if your woman is at work, in a meeting, went clubbing/noisy places and didnt hear the phone ring :confused:

We don't own our spouse/gf and definitely don't expect them to be at our beck and call at the drop of a hat. To pick a quarrel based on this sounds very juvenile and being suspicious means lack of trust, if trust is not there, it's very hard to maintain whether there's third party or not.

Nowadays women are earning their keep now or on par with the men, the men could have more to lose if they choose to leave (kids, property, hefty monthly maintenance fees). Kids will always tend to be closer to the ones who spend time with the family.

There's no cheat proof method, as long as u r playing the field, women have every right to play the field too. And women are sensitive and smart, they play the same field because they smell something fishy too. Sometimes they are just closing an eye but when things get out of hand, they tend to play the same field. While older men like SYT, younger men are suckers for attractive MILF too. At the wave of hand, young guys as young as 19 with abs (six packs) and big dicks are very willing to serve the cougars.

Younger guys are free, better looking, toned figure, more willing to please, last longer on bed, interesting and always never failed to make a older woman laugh with new tricks and novelty. Just look at the orgy section. :D

Eventually a family will break up and ended up in divorce because of these external factors. Moreover as we are getting on age, do evaluate whether worthwhile to risk the family bliss on philandering. Yes there might be plenty of temptations out there. However, who will be there to spend the rest of our old age with u and take care of us in time of sickness. When the time come on sick bed (not on the hotel bed), who will be there for u? The young sexy lass out there or our faithful old spouse of a few decades? While the young lass are happily sharing your $$ with equally young attractive guys, the older men don't ended up laying alone on the sick bed. :D

KimXD

07-12-2013, 10:21 PM

Bro WB,

Just to share my appreciation from reading the very enlightening information on this thread!

Had managed to practice the multiple PVO on this singer who was here last year & she went back after 6 mths work permit in end of last year. This year after CNY, she flew to SG on tourist visa to meet me for a month before flying back.

She just came back this week again on singer work permit for 6 mths. Last two days just gave her what she come for. In fact, I am a bit tired after preparing my assignment, ask her if she prefer going for a meal or hotel, she just say hotel.

Had ask her to look for a place so that it will be more convenient for us to make out.

This evening she shared that her mother recently arranged for a 相亲 for her as she is already 22yo. She just get her agent to arrange for her to come to SG to work.

besafe

07-12-2013, 10:44 PM

Of course women cheat. If her man lose interest and affection in her, she will look for someone who will shower her with attention and love. I had my share of tryst with married women before and the problem is always the man.

crood

07-12-2013, 11:04 PM

Dun love her, release her. Every human has their right to pursue their own happiness.

PeteTsang69

08-12-2013, 01:10 AM

warbird

10-12-2013, 08:00 AM

What if your woman is at work, in a meeting, went clubbing/noisy places and didnt hear the phone ring.............

We don't own our spouse/gf and definitely don't expect them to be at our beck and call at the drop of a hat. To pick a quarrel based on this sounds very juvenile and being suspicious means lack of trust, if trust is not there, it's very hard to maintain whether there's third party or not.

Nowadays women are earning their keep now or on par with the men, the men could have more to lose if they choose to leave....................

There's no cheat proof method, as long as u r playing the field, women have every right to play the field too..................While older men like SYT, younger men are suckers for attractive MILF too. At the wave of hand, young guys as young as 19 with abs (six packs) and big dicks are very willing to serve the cougars.

Younger guys are free, better looking, toned figure, more willing to please, last longer on bed, interesting and always never failed to make a older woman laugh with new tricks and novelty. Just look at the orgy section. :D

Eventually a family will break up and ended up in divorce because of these external factors........................However, who will be there to spend the rest of our old age with u and take care of us in time of sickness. When the time come on sick bed (not on the hotel bed), who will be there for u?..................

Dear crood,

Tks for ur excellent post.

I respect ur viewpoints, although I disagree w/ most of them.

The loyalty of my mistresses/lovers/GFs is crucial. They r at my beck n call 24/7. I hv set my boundaries n I'm prepared to walk out on any woman/girl if they r violated.

If u want to be 100% sure of our women's faithfulness, instal a tracking software on their HP or get a PI.

Of course women/girls r free to choose n to cheat. No one is stopping them hahaha. Who cares? I only care abt my women/girls.

You're right that some young men do look better physically, but I disagree w/ everything else. IMHO, they r usually stressed, short on time, impatient, unwilling to please, immature, emotionally unfit, clueless on techniques, too fast in shooting their loads, insecure and conceited...

A number of my mistresses had chosen me over much younger men who were paying the same or more or were prepared to pay more...

After 5-yr of BY-ing, only one girl KK has dumped me. She was 18 in 2010 when she fell for a 20 yo student from a well to do family in China. They broke off after 2 yrs n she wanted to return to me 8 months ago. I rejected her.

Life is unpredictable n short. I can't predict who will come to my sick bed. Can u?

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB,

Just to share my appreciation from reading the very enlightening information on this thread!

Had managed to practice the multiple PVO on this singer who was here last year & she went back after 6 mths work permit in end of last year. This year after CNY, she flew to SG on tourist visa to meet me for a month before flying back.

She just came back this week again on singer work permit for 6 mths. Last two days just gave her what she come for. In fact, I am a bit tired after preparing my assignment, ask her if she prefer going for a meal or hotel, she just say hotel.

Had ask her to look for a place so that it will be more convenient for us to make out.

This evening she shared that her mother recently arranged for a 相亲 for her as she is already 22yo. She just get her agent to arrange for her to come to SG to work.

Dear bro KimXD,

Congrats to u! It's quite probable that this singer is sexually addicted to u!

Of course women cheat. If her man lose interest and affection in her, she will look for someone who will shower her with attention and love. I had my share of tryst with married women before and the problem is always the man.

Dear bro besafe,

I never touch married women. Why should I? I hv too many pretty SYTs of my type for me to BY.

I just received the following a few days ago:

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These women are not interested in playing games. They know what they want and they will be very upfront with you. You have nothing to lose, and the time of your life to gain!

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Dun love her, release her. Every human has their right to pursue their own happiness.

Dear crood,

She is not a prisoner, she is free to go...

I always tell my mistresses, all decades younger than I, that if they find a good young man to marry, leave me asap. They will hv my sincerest blessings hahaha.

try again ...with different site .....http://http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/akb48newstimes/imgs/9/d/9d363f3a-s.jpg (http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/akb48newstimes/imgs/9/d/9d363f3a-s.jpg)

Thank you, bro. Is that your cum on her face? She should hv swallowed it!

Cheers!

Bro WB

airbrush

10-12-2013, 04:13 PM

besafe

10-12-2013, 11:04 PM

Bro Warbird,
I know you are into SYT, but what's the difference with married ones?
Married ones are mellow, like wine.
Just my POV.
Anyway, I have stopped quite sometime already, as I am now hitched.
Cheers.

saabking

10-12-2013, 11:21 PM

D

I always tell my mistresses, all decades younger than I, that if they find a good young man to marry, leave me asap. They will hv my sincerest blessings hahaha.

Bro WB

How do you do that without hurting their feelings..or having them turn hysterical especially when they become addicted to you and you giving them PVO...

Sigh..need some advice so i can give the right message and do the right thing...;)

warbird

11-12-2013, 12:07 PM

[QUOTE=warbird;10170959]
Thank you, bro. Is that your cum on her face? She should hv swallowed it!

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB that is cake cream on her face not cum you are very imaginative just like me.

Dear bro airbrush,

We think alike haha.

Shooting into a SYT's mouth is 2nd only to shooting ur full load inside her cunt haha.

Bro Warbird,
I know you are into SYT, but what's the difference with married ones?
Married ones are mellow, like wine.
Just my POV.
Anyway, I have stopped quite sometime already, as I am now hitched.
Cheers.

Dear bro besafe,

Congrats to u!

I shun married women n blood relatives.

How do you do that without hurting their feelings..or having them turn hysterical especially when they become addicted to you and you giving them PVO...

Sigh..need some advice so i can give the right message and do the right thing...;)

Dear bro saabking,

I'm not dumping them, I only tell them it's ok to leave me if they find someone better or if they want to get married. I mean it because letting go of what I want is the only way to really get it.

They all desire long term RS. My young mistress wants me to BY her for 10 yrs n my first BAO-ee actually wants to be my real wife!

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

23-12-2013, 09:45 AM

Good morning!

I like to pay tribute to a former KTV kaki KM who was killed in an accident not too long ago. He wasn't a SBF bro. He was a well-educated n mature gentleman. His family is one of the wealthiest in SG, according to Forbes. He and another friend and I used to frequent DC n a couple other joints 3-4 yrs ago. He was very frugal, telling me that it was too expensive to BY attractive women. He often took his 'dates' to hotel 81. I last met him abt 2 yrs ago. He was hit by a car while waiting to flag down a taxi. He didn't hv a chauffeur.

Separately, my UK girl RL will get her BA (Hons) next month. She has agreed to come to SG in May or sooner. She also wants to find a decent job.

Cheers!

Bro WB

ahpui99

23-12-2013, 10:07 AM

warbird

23-12-2013, 11:34 AM

Brother warbird,

As always i must salute u. Hope to have your power when i am your age

Curious. For your mistresses, u fuck them raw and shoot in? Curious about the going rate. Had dinner with old time ktv girl, she told me she was getting SGD 10k per month. She is quite ok, but seriously that seems excessive for 28 year old.

Dear bro ahpui99,

Yes, I fuck my long term mistresses raw n shoot inside them when they are not ovulating. If they are near ovulation I put on a CD before coming.

I always do Oraquick tests myself n refer them for gyne exam to rule out STDs BEFORE doing raw. I continue to monitor them...

The range for BY-ing is between 7-20K a month plus rental if she doesn't work at KTVs or moonlight anywhere else etc. I prefer pretty n tall SYTs but I hv BY-ed MILFs as old as 31.

So-called celebrities may want a lot more.

Cheers!

Bro WB

........................................

Merry Christmas n Happy New Year to all everyone!!

Bro WB

ahpui99

23-12-2013, 11:38 AM

Thank u bro
Celebraties?

warbird

25-12-2013, 12:07 PM

Thank u bro
Celebraties?

Don't pay any premium for a girl's fame, pay her based on her looks, figure, attitude, responsiveness, service, personality, character, etc.

..............................................

Merry Christmas and Happy new Year!!

Bro WB

Here is an email I just received.

Master These 5 Things and You’ll Become A Bedroom Boss

Hi Warbird,

If You Want To Become A Bedroom Boss – A Total STUD – There Are 5 Things You Need To MASTER. Here They Are…

We’re getting close to the end of 2013.

It’s nearly Christmas…

Then it’s New Year’s Eve…

And then… it’s 2014!

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You see, right now – I know you’re busy…

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The last thing you have time for is messing around on the internet reading my stuff ;)

But…

If you read what I’m about to share with you carefully and MASTER these 5 things…

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So if you wanna have the best Christmas sex EVER – and incredible sex in 2014 – read on carefully my friend…

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The first time a woman called me a fucking BEAST in bed – it was pretty cool.

I remember thinking…

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Here are some tips for being that guy:

Call the shots. Take control. Lead her. Don’t wait for her to make decisions because this will turn her OFF. Big time.
Let her feel your strength and masculinity. How do you do this? Pick her up. Carefully ‘throw her around.’ Pin her down. Restrain her. You get the idea
Never ask her how you compare to her previous lovers. ASSUME and act as if you are THE BEST. Seriously – too many men ask this question of their women and end up HATING the answer

2. Use A Lot Of Dirty Talk

Women love dirty talk…

It turns them on, makes them hot, wet and horny – and it REALLY helps to ‘get them off.’

So if you aren’t using it EVERY time you ‘get it on’ with your woman – start doing so. You will enjoy the results.

To ensure your dirty talk is successful:

Keep it VERY SIMPLE
Use crude words – ‘cock, pussy and fuck’… not ‘vagina, penis and intercourse’
When using words like ‘slut and whore’ – be sure to say: “You’re MY naughty little slut” and “You’re MY dirty little whore”
Remember that the more ORGASMS you give her – the DIRTIER you can talk to her
Remember that the longer you’you’ve known her – the DIRTIER you can talk to her

For more help with your dirty talk, grab a copy of Dirty Talk Phrases

3. Use Your Imagination

When I say use your imagination I mean that you must make the sex DIFFERENT every time.

Losers and chumps do it the same way every time and their women end up BORED stupid sooner or later…

Then they stop wanting sex and some will go on to CHEAT.

A true Bedroom Boss makes the sex different EVERY time…

Sometimes very different…

Sometimes different in a much more subtle way…

But NEVER the same way twice.

Try new positions, techniques, dirty talk phrases, locations and so on.

4. Make The Sex Naughty

Most women will never admit it – for fear of being negatively judged – but they actually want VERY NAUGHTY SEX…

They want you to grab their hair, restrain them and spank them.

They want to give head whilst the man tells them what a ‘naughty little girl’ she is.

They want you to tell them how good their pussy smells and tastes.

They want to dress up real slutty for you in the bedroom.

They want to GET SLUTTY with the right man.

But most women won’t do these things without being given permission. YOU – as the man – have to give your woman permission to act this way. Do that and you’ll have the best sex ever. Period.

5. Give Her Orgasms

Ultimately – the first 4 points help this fifth one to happen.

To be a total STUD you have to ‘get your woman off’ over and over again…

Clitoral orgasms…

Vaginal orgasms…

Squirting orgasms…

Multiple orgasms…

Anal, nipple, ear, lip, spanking, countdown orgasms and mindgasms. Your woman can experience them all – but only when YOU lead her and make it happen. She cannot do it on her own.

To have the best sex of your life in 2014, here’s what I recommend you do…

Master the 5 things I’ve just shared with you. Do that and you’ll be a stud even if you have a tiny penis and aren’t very good looking. And that’s a fact.

Your friend,

Mr. Guru

NotMyRealName

31-12-2013, 11:44 AM

Bro WB, a very good advice and round off this thread for 2013!

damong777

31-12-2013, 08:24 PM

Bro WB, great thread...just spent time reading through 30 pages...worth the read and many interesting thoughts.

That's food for thoughts for the new year

besafe

31-12-2013, 11:02 PM

Happy New Year to everyone.
May next year bring wealth, health and happiness to you.
Happy bonking 2014!

warbird

04-01-2014, 11:17 AM

Bro WB, a very good advice and round off this thread for 2013!

Dear bro NotMyRealName,

I'm a hard working trainee, learning from many masters n gurus hahaha.

Bro WB, great thread..............
That's food for thoughts for the new year

Dear bro damong777,

Thanks for ur interest in my thread. You make my day!!

Turn ur thoughts into actions asap. I look forward to ur sexploits haha.

QUOTE=besafe;10279435]Happy New Year to everyone.
May next year bring wealth, health and happiness to you.
Happy bonking 2014![/QUOTE]

Dear bro besafe,

Thank you!! Happy New Year!!
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Good morning！

I believe 2014 will be a fantastic year for self improvement, enlightenment, excellent health, optimal sexual and love relationship and financial independence for everyone!

I just received an article on 7 Things That Separate Great Lovers From Average Lovers from a most respected guru.

Hi Brother Warbird,

If you want to be a GREAT LOVER – a guy who can easily give ANY woman incredible sex – you need to copy what great lovers do.

With that thought in mind, here are 7 things that great lovers do in the bedroom that average lovers don’t do…

1. They Never Think “I Know It All”

Whenever I hear somebody say “I know it all” or “I’ve tried EVERYTHING” – I know that person is never going to be a MASTER.

You see, a truly great lover – a MASTER in the bedroom – understands that he will never ‘know it all’…

He understands that there is ALWAYS MORE TO LEARN.

And he actually ENJOYS this fact… because every new sexual discovery and ‘bedroom breakthrough’ gives him a sense of fulfilment and pleasure that cannot be gained from thinking that you know it all.

2. They Commit To Continuous and Never Ending Improvement

The Japanese have a word called ‘Kaizen.’

It literally means…

Continuous and never ending improvement.

The idea behind this is that small, daily improvements add up to massive change over time. Using this philosophy, the Japanese managed to become major Global Powers – and in some cases World Leaders – in the electronics and automotive industries.

Apply the same attitude to the bedroom and you will eventually become a GREAT LOVER. And that’s a fact.

One way to commit to becoming a great lover could be to read, listen or watch at least one program a month that is designed to help you become a better lover. Go through one program a week if you’re feeling like a total badass!

And “NO” – watching PORN does NOT count

3. They Are Very Strong Mentally

Without fail, average lovers are always WEAK mentally. Great lovers are strong mentally.

Average lovers blame their poor sexual performances on their lack of penis size, their lack of sexual experience, or their woman.

Great lovers understand that they can give a woman MIND-BLOWING sex no matter how they look and whatever their physical proportions.

And great lovers will NEVER blame their woman… they take 100% responsibility for the outcome in the bedroom.

4. They Choose The Right Woman

Average lovers very often settle for whatever woman they can get.

Great lovers only ever settle for a GREAT WOMAN.

They look for intelligent, confident women.

You see, it doesn’t matter how many techniques you know in the bedroom and how well you can talk dirty… if your woman isn’t ready… you’ll never get the results you desire.

I figured this out the hard way many years ago…

I’d meet one woman and make her ORGASMIC in a way most people could not believe… clitoral, vaginal, squirting and multiple orgasms – she’d experience them all.

I’d then meet another woman and would struggle to give her a single clitoral orgasm.

What was the difference?

The type of woman. After a while I realized that if you want to have INCREDIBLE SEX – you have to choose an intelligent, confidence woman who has high self-esteem and no serious emotional ‘issues.’

It’s as simple as that.

5. They Understand That Sex Is Very Mental For Women…

And because of this understanding, they spend at least as much time fucking their woman’s MIND as they do her PUSSY.

How do they fuck her mind?

Simple…

With interesting conversation and humour OUTSIDE of the bedroom…

And with DIRTY TALK inside of the bedroom.

Average lovers rarely if ever talk dirty.

Great lovers do it ALL THE TIME… EVERY time they have sex.

For me, talking dirty to my woman during sex is a natural as breathing the air around me. If you want to become a great lover – it needs to feel this way for you too.

6. They Aren’t Afraid To Be Dominant

Most men have forgotten how to be men.

Men are supposed to be STRONG…

They are supposed to lead and protect…

They are supposed to be DOMINANT.

“YES” – some politically correct people may HATE what I’ve just said – but it’s the truth. Nature designed us this way.

And nature has programmed women to want men who act that way.

Nature has made women want, need and crave SEXUALLY DOMINANT men.

All great male lovers are dominant.

Average lovers tend to be the opposite – many of them even wait (or expect) their women to take the lead. Then they wonder why they don’t get any sex! Duh!

She doesn’t want to take the lead…

She wants you to do it… she wants you to be the boss in the bedroom.

7. They Genuinely Love The Company Of Women

I truly believe that many men find the company of women BORING and would much rather be ‘watching the game’ or drinking beer with their buddies.

But to be a GREAT LOVER – you have to love the company of women…

And I don’t just mean in the bedroom. I mean OUTSIDE the bedroom too.

You see, if you don’t enjoy her company, she’ll know it and she won’t be that excited about giving herself to you in the bedroom.

I once read this study showing that men, in general, only talk about 5 things… alcohol, football, tits, cars and something else that I forget. The point being that men, in general, talk about a very limited number of things.

Women, on the other hand, have a much broader spectrum of talking points and this is one of the many reasons why I generally prefer the company of women to men. Because they are so much more INTERESTING!

This 7th point is very important… before you worry about what’s going on IN THE BEDROOM – learn to love the company of women OUTSIDE the bedroom first.

Firstly, I like to comment that to be a great lover, in fact, to be great in any endeavor, one must be mentally tough and have awesome emotional control/self mastery.

Secondly, choosing the right women is crucial. Choose high value, high quality women of your type. Never, ever settle.

Lastly, accept everything in life unconditionally and be happy now.

The last is the most important n can be life changing immediately...

Cheers!

Bro WB

NotMyRealName

06-01-2014, 02:22 PM

Thanks for sharing!

warbird

11-01-2014, 12:07 PM

Thanks for sharing!

Dear bro NotMyRealName,

You're welcome!

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Good morning!

I'm always looking for younger and prettier women.

But don't get KC-ed by a pretty young woman. Her beauty will not last.

Here is a brief article from a guru.

The Truth About Women Beauty - Why you hold the cards

Hey Bro Warbird,

A woman peaks is in her early twenties.I want you to always keep that in mind.

A woman PEAKS is in her early twenties.

No matter how hot or cute you think she is right now, her beauty
and attractiveness will always go down after that...

Unless she exercises and takes care of herself, which very few
women do (again just remind yourself to never settle for girls who
don't EXERCISE, no matter how attractive they are right now).

A lot of women are delusional about the fact that a man should love
them for what's inside.

So after a few years, they just become lazy...

Sorry... they were actually already lazy, but now their youth is
not there to sustain their beauty.

Not understanding that, for a man, visual is very
important--regardless of how much he loves his partner.

A lot will hide behind the fact that they had kids.

Or that it's just natural to be less attractive as you grow older.

...................

I know women who don't plan to be less attractive as they grow
older. They are determined to look their best, regardless of their
age and that takes, well...

Motivation.

Have an great day!

Guru XYZ

deathnitez

12-01-2014, 11:59 AM

I agree with the above BRO WB. Anyway happy belated new year to all bros here. :cool:

warbird

23-01-2014, 02:23 PM

I agree with the above BRO WB. Anyway happy belated new year to all bros here. :cool:

Dear bro deathnitez,

Thanks!

Happy and Prosperous Lunar New Year to our Boss n everyone on SBF!!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

I had an enjoyable session at CI 3rd fl HH yesterday.

The outing was attended by 7 bros n we had a medium room. Expense per pax was only $65 inclusive of mummy's fee, waiter's tip n food. It would hv been $70, but Bro RB was kind enough to pay a bit more. The room was larger, more posh n more comfortable than 'medium room' at all PC joints. It was really value for money. I hv known mummies K & H for over 5 yrs. They r very good.

Two of my best kakis, Bros RB n KX, were there. Bro RB is tall, handsome n very wealthy. Great singer n dancer too. He goes to TAM joints 5X per wk?!! He always gets the best quality gals. Bro KX is an up n comer. He is also quite tall, good looking n well to do. He also always gets girls of this type. I hv another great kaki PG but he was indisposed yesterday.

The selection of girls last night wasn't very good. My girl CK was OK, not quite my type as she was short. I'll still ST her. A tall young professional bro YM, quit good looking, who was sitting next to me kept looking at CK. He whispered that he liked my girl, his type. Wanted to swap his girl w/ mine. I said not now, let me fuck her first haha. Your girl very pretty, YM said several times. Actually his girl was very similar in build n quite pretty. He said his is very cold n mine is very passionate haha. But CK is only 159-160, aged 20, quite cute, small bony frame, figure proportionate, but having her menses now and will return to PRC for LNY tomorrow. I hv to wait for her return to up her. Then YM can hv her.

I also called another gal XY whom I had upped abt 3 wks ago, but she was already booked. She is 22, pretty, fair, 171, w/ natural C/D boobs n proportionate body n quite perky ass. She dropped by n whispered that I had been ignoring her haha. Need to find time to RTF. I met her in the hall several days after her arrival.

The fact that XY is frequently fully booked n will not usually show up in a line up tells me that it's difficult to meet good quality gals if u wait for them to come to ur rm. Why? Because better looking girls r regularly fully booked or BY-ed after 2-3 wks!

It was my good fortune to hv met a new young bro KK last night, who is one of the most handsome men (including Ang Mohs) I hv ever met. He also has the most enviable physique! KK is the quintessence of 高富帅! I kept looking at him even though I'm 100% heterosexual haha. He phoned a girl to come to sit w/ him. She was quite pretty w/ proportionate figure. Good taste. KK has unfair advantage w/ women, at least initially. Fortunately, for the rest of us, especially for a lao chee ko pek like me, a man's looks r much less important when it comes to what attract women...I hv alluded to this fact many times in the past.

Originally I planned to hv outing to CI SH today, but I'm having a bit of headache this AM n hv to postpone the outing. Will plan for tomorrow Friday.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good afternoon!

In my previous post I mentioned that women peaked in their early 20s in looks n sexual attractiveness. This generally coincides w/ the peaks in their fertility n fecundity.

Here is one type of women we should all void, according to a sex expert:

One Type Of Woman You Should Avoid

Hey Bro Warbird,

There's a type of woman you should not settle for.

Seriously.

Some of the woman reading this newsletter may insult me (yes,
there are women reading this men's newsletter).

But I pledge to always tell you the truth--or MY truth, like I
always say.

OK.

So, the kind of women you should never settle for are those
who never exercise or don't do any sport.

No sport, gym, or running.

EVER!

Why?

Well, several reasons.

One, as you know, women age less gracefully than men, so 10
years from now, this hottie may turn into someone you're not
attracted to any more (one of the reasons why passion decreases
in a relationship, but women won't never acknowledge it).

Because YES, even if she's fit TODAY, it doesn't mean she'll
stay that way in the future (it's very unlikely actually).

Women make all kinds of excuses on why they get out of shape
as they age: children; he should love me for me, not my
appearance; I'm busy; big bones; blah blah blah...

Unless exercising is part of her lifestyle now, it's very
unlikely that she'll actively battle aging later on.

Another reason (MUCH MORE vital) is simply your own peace of
mind. You see, women are really emotional creatures and a lot
of their emotional drama can be decreased by a healthy active
lifestyle. I found that women who practice some kind of sport
are always more positive, resilient, and overall, MUCH more fun.

I remember dating that girl who was super hot, but didn't have
to work for her body, but guess what? She was always tired and
moody. She was boring as hell, always complaining about anything
and everything. Her energy level was so low that I wanted to
kill myself. No thanks!

Exercising is a MUST (at least, for me). This is the highest,
most powerful activity you can invest in that will yield
exponential rewards.

Choose a woman who is clear on that.

This is a good excuse to go meet girls at the gym.

Plenty of hot, positive, high-energy girls! ;-)

Have an amazing day!

Mr. Guru

fallen.angel

23-01-2014, 03:11 PM

Bro Warbird,

Bro KK is 高富帥... then you are the 土豪 and I'm the quintessential 屌絲! Lol!

warbird

23-01-2014, 05:25 PM

Bro Warbird,

Bro KK is 高富帥... then you are the 土豪 and I'm the quintessential 屌絲! Lol!

Dear Bro FA,

Hahhaha...

No, you're definitely NOT 屌絲! which is the diagonal opposite of '高富帅'

You're too tall, too smart, too skilled w/ ladies, too good looking n too rich to be a 屌絲! You're a '高富帅', though of lower ranking than Bro KK.

Whereas, I hv spent too many yrs in studying n working; hv taken too long to make too little money, in the old fashion way, n been much too frugal to be a 土豪 hahaha. I'm just another lao chee ko pek. But so what? I accept my unfavorable situation n I'm very joyous NOW.

BTW, my headache is improving but I shall stay home to buy some stocks n do video calling w/ some girls tonight.

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

24-01-2014, 10:19 AM

Dear Bro FA,

Hahhaha...

No, you're definitely NOT 屌絲! which is the diagonal opposite of '高富帅'

You're too tall, too smart, too skilled w/ ladies, too good looking n too rich to be a 屌絲! You're a '高富帅', though of lower ranking than Bro KK.

Whereas, I hv spent too many yrs in studying n working; hv taken too long to make too little money, in the old fashion way, n been much too frugal to be a 土豪 hahaha. I'm just another lao chee ko pek. But so what? I accept my unfavorable situation n I'm very joyous NOW.

BTW, my headache is improving but I shall stay home to buy some stocks n do video calling w/ some girls tonight.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro WB, you are too kind. I'm at best a 文藝青年... didn't you mention I've a good command of Chinese? LOL!

warbird

24-01-2014, 11:57 AM

Bro WB, you are too kind. I'm at best a 文藝青年... didn't you mention I've a good command of Chinese? LOL!

Bro FA, yes, you hv very good command of the Chinese language.

But when I was 20, I was ranked much lower than a 屌丝。The following pic is a much more trendy, much better looking n sociable version of ME. The guy in the pic is having more success with women than I had. I'm also a non-smoker n a teetotaler.

http://image.baidu.com/i?ct=503316480&z=&tn=baiduimagedetail&ipn=d&word=%E5%B1%8C%E4%B8%9D&step_word=&ie=utf-8&in=32184&cl=2&lm=-1&st=&pn=43&rn=1&di=101880423590&ln=1981&fr=ala1&&fmq=1390535020211_R&ic=&s=&se=&sme=0&tab=&width=&height=&face=&is=&istype=&ist=&jit=&objurl=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.wan.renren.com%2Fimages%2F 2013%2F0227%2F1361934469117.jpg#pn43&-1&di101880423590&objURLhttp%3A%2F%2Fimg.wan.renren.com%2Fimages%2F2 013%2F0227%2F1361934469117.jpg&fromURLippr_z2C%24qAzdH3FAzdH3F2w4jf_z%26e3B6jg6jg _z%26e3Bv54AzdH3FgjofAzdH3Fi5pAzdH3Fkw27wAzdH3Fda8 nadd0AzdH3F8m9l0_z%26e3Bfip4s&W297&H550&T7448&S40&TPjpg

Now you know why I hv been studying n training so hard everyday hahaha...

Cheers!

Bro WB

deathnitez

25-01-2014, 10:51 AM

Just to ask all the experience bros here, how true is it that beautiful girls usually prefer to date with bad boys as compared to mr nice guys??

Gump

25-01-2014, 07:54 PM

Just to ask all the experience bros here, how true is it that beautiful girls usually prefer to date with bad boys as compared to mr nice guys??

Maybe its the confidence that they stereotype bad looking boys to have. There is a direct relation between social status and confidence, from primitive days till now.

warbird:
I suspect Mr Guru to be yourself, just that you are being humble :D

warbird

27-01-2014, 03:47 PM

Just to ask all the experience bros here, how true is it that beautiful girls usually prefer to date with bad boys as compared to mr nice guys??

Dear bro deathnitez,

It depends on ur definition of 'bad boy,'

Maybe its the confidence that they stereotype bad looking boys to have. There is a direct relation between social status and confidence, from primitive days till now.

warbird:
I suspect Mr Guru to be yourself, just that you are being humble :D

Dear bro Gump.

No, I'm NOT Mr. Guru. I'm an eager n diligent trainee.

Yes, confidence in general n sexual confidence in particular. But it's more than that.

Many pundits n experts believe that any man who has a genuinely "don't give a damn" attitude is very attractive to women.

But, IMHO, it's not "don't give a damn" or DGAD attitude per se which is attractive, rather, it's displaying a higher value as a MAN than the girls you're attracting which makes 'badboys" so successful w/ women. If you believe that you hv higher value than ur women, do u care if they leave u tomorrow? Of course not! It would be a blessing, isn't? Many prettier n younger girls will be lining up for u.

Recently, my young mistress could sense my higher value n DGAD attitude, she asks me to promise her that, when she is back home for CNY, 你不会和别的女孩做爱，你不会和别的女孩在一起。Then she said, 我如果不回来你反而会高兴吧？She is 21 n her looks r peaking now, and in a couple of yrs, will be on the decline...I dumped her once last yr n she cried n cried, I took her back because her pussy is very pretty, tight n responsive n has proven very safe thus far. It will take almost 6 months of repeated testing n monitoring to certify any particular pussy as safe n exclusive. Monitoring must also be an ongoing process.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good afternoon!

If you believe, in your subconscious mind, that you hv sky high value, higher than the prettiest n highest quality girls in this world, these beliefs will be reflected in ur actions, eye ctc, voice, words, body language, etc. The girls will detect them from afar n will start chasing u. I'm not kidding. No, you don't need to behave like a jerk, you can be a perfect gentleman n attract the prettiest, highest quality women. You will beat all the "badboys"at their own game out there!! But to keep your women, you still hv to give them regular PVOs haha. I'm afraid there is no way around it.

Bro NMRN posted that he would not touch any local or Msian gals in my other thread. Here is my reply in which I also discussed THE one secret which really attracts women.

Dear Bro NotMyRealName,

One man's meat is another man's poison. This is complicated by the Rashomon Effect hahaha.

There is an esteemed bro, whom I hv known for almost 5 yrs, who is very satisfied n is in love w/ his Msian Chn GF, who is currently pregnant w/ his child. She is emotionally, sexually n financially addicted to him haha. He has a 2nd mistress, also a Msian Chn.

Also, If you ask many Ang Mohs living here in SG, they will tell u how happy they r w/ their SG GFs, wives or mistresses.

Before I started BY-ing, I used to meet up w/ Nat, a local FL, in 2008 n early 2009. She told me abt her girlfriend, a local Chn aged 23, who was being kept by a 73 or 74 Yo Ang Moh from Northern Europe. Her GF was very satisfied.

Why r many prettier n better educated local gals attracted to Ang Moh men, some of whom r old, ugly, fat, bald, poorly educated n not so well to do?

It's most ironic that ur local gals n Ang Moh men don't even know the real reason. Very few people really understand how attraction works. But everything happens to work like magic hahaha.

IMHO, THE secret is this: These Ang Moh men, regardless of their looks, weight, height, age, social n economic status, educational level, character, etc., believe, in their subconscious mind, that their race confers an absolute superiority over our local girls. In other words, when interacting w/ all locals, they display their high value in their behaviours, eye contact, voice, words, body language, so on n so forth. When they display high value, appear hard to get, the local girls chase them. Landing an Ang Moh BF is a trophy for our local gals hahaha. That is how attraction works. Of course, if they can't give their women regular PVOs, the RS will eventually fail, hahaha.

BTW, there is a bro who went to XTD at the Verge, against my sincere advice, was most disappointed w/ the quality of gals there. They all CMI, he texted me, hahaha. I told u so!!

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

31-01-2014, 02:09 PM

Hello all esteemed gentlemen......................................... ..............................

Dear bro abugga,

Tks for ur post.

I'll give my opinion on this fascinating subject at a later date.

Wishing u and everyone here at SBF a Happy and Prosperous Lunar New year!!

Bro WB

AAconnection

02-02-2014, 05:50 PM

Happy New Year to all brothers and especially brother Warbird.
The Horse symbolise beauty that why it attracted millions of people. They are genetically form to be ride on with pressure asserted on them. Their brain is the smallest compare to the size of the body. They react to action and the confidence of the rider. They are some similarity to some beautiful woman. Their brain is normal but they don't like to think they like to make themselves beautiful and to be ride on by confident rider.

(If you believe, in your subconscious mind, that you hv sky high value, higher than the prettiest n highest quality girls in this world, these beliefs will be reflected in ur actions, eye ctc, voice, words, body language, etc. The girls will detect them from afar n will start chasing u.)from bro Warbird

I have the same believe and I experience it many times. The year of the horse I am using my subconscious mind for new and better quality girls globally. Yes they detect you from afar from Peru, Italy, Brazil, Japan and China and many countries that you least expected. Regret that my resources for time to be with these girl is insufficient.

(BTW, there is a bro who went to XTD at the Verge, against my sincere advice, was most disappointed w/ the quality of gals there. They all CMI, he texted me, hahaha. I told u so!!)from bro Warbird
Haha I have the same thoughts too...many a time brother chio me to XTD I didn't follow them.

warbird

02-02-2014, 08:11 PM

Hello all esteemed gentlemen. I was reading a particular story of an american woman whom has had an incredible but crazy love life, spanning from women to men. It has certainly piqued my interest.

As I read on, I have discovered that there was a certain lesson in which could be learned, many valuable pointers that our fellow brother Warbird here has been, almost always preaching, practising and sharing.

This post will be about a particular man in her life, which our lead actress fell head over heels with. Tallulah Bankhead ...............................Napier George Henry Alington, arrived in his pajamas, with an overcoat bundled over the top and a bottle of bootleg gin in his pocket.

Tallulah couldn’t help but be impressed that Naps was an actual aristocrat – the 3rd Baron Alington, whose family owned large tracts of England. He was more finely bred than any American she had met..................................

In her autobiography later on, Tallulah says that Napier (or "Naps", as she called him) was one of two men whom she truly loved in her life, despite having many sexual and romantic relationships with many men and women alike.
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This case in view here, perhaps could be an open dialogue for our fellow brothers here to openly discuss this affair, in which I can discern, many traits of what a man should be, in which women find irresistibly charming.

Dear bro abugga,

Tallulah Bankhead was bisexual.

Baron Alington or Naps was a cultured British aristocrat who had a RS w/ her in the 1920s.

This is another great example of a man who believed he had much higher value than the woman he was having a RS with. Why?

In the 1920s, Great Britian was a superpower n the British felt superior to every one else. "The sun never sets on the British Empire." And Naps was no ordinary Briton, he was a baron!!

Some Britons still live on past glories. They r delusional. A case in point: The infamous expat Anton Casey...but this IS 2014 and he is no Baron hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Happy New Year to all brothers and especially brother Warbird.
The Horse symbolise beauty that why it attracted millions of people. They are genetically form to be ride on with pressure asserted on them. Their brain is the smallest compare to the size of the body. They react to action and the confidence of the rider. They are some similarity to some beautiful woman. Their brain is normal but they don't like to think they like to make themselves beautiful and to be ride on by confident rider.

(If you believe, in your subconscious mind, that you hv sky high value, higher than the prettiest n highest quality girls in this world, these beliefs will be reflected in ur actions, eye ctc, voice, words, body language, etc. The girls will detect them from afar n will start chasing u.)from bro Warbird

I have the same believe and I experience it many times. The year of the horse I am using my subconscious mind for new and better quality girls globally. Yes they detect you from afar from Peru, Italy, Brazil, Japan and China and many countries that you least expected. Regret that my resources for time to be with these girl is insufficient.

(BTW, there is a bro who went to XTD at the Verge, against my sincere advice, was most disappointed w/ the quality of gals there. They all CMI, he texted me, hahaha. I told u so!!)from bro Warbird
Haha I have the same thoughts too...many a time brother chio me to XTD I didn't follow them.

Dear bro AAconnection,

Happy Lunar New Year!!

Some pretty girls are quite smart too. Yes, they all want to be mounted, at least subconsciously.

But if you manifest higher value, dominance, masculine traits, sexual confidence and self mastery, she will be greatly attracted n will become submissive haha.

With modern technology, you can connect with girls all over the world n don't be surprised many of them will line up for u!

Cheers!

Bro WB

miniboy

03-02-2014, 11:22 PM

Some Britons still live on past glories. They r delusional. A case in point: The infamous expat Anton Casey...but this IS 2014 and he is no Baron hahaha.

AC is actually a bum and make loses in capital investment

Some pretty girls are quite smart too. Yes, they all want to be mounted, at least subconsciously.

i have been a great follower of WB posting
your words truly open up my world view of enjoyment

warbird

04-02-2014, 11:09 AM

AC is actually a bum and make loses in capital investment
i have been a great follower of WB posting
your words truly open up my world view of enjoyment

Dear bro miniboy,

I'm only a trainee, working diligently to get on the right path, but my path may not be suitable for everyone.

What I hv written may or may not be the universal truth. I believe most of it is very close to the truth. Definitive scientific proof may be elusive. However, it has worked remarkably well for me. It may not work for everyone...

Life is what u make it, you need to find ur own path to happiness n fulfillment.

Cheers!

Bro WB

besafe

06-02-2014, 05:22 PM

Dear bro miniboy,

I'm only a trainee, working diligently to get on the right path, but my path may not be suitable for everyone.

What I hv written may or may not be the universal truth. I believe most of it is very close to the truth. Definitive scientific proof may be elusive. However, it has worked remarkably well for me. It may not work for everyone...

Life is what u make it, you need to find ur own path to happiness n fulfillment.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dear Bro WB
You claimed to be a trainee far too long.:eek:
You are Grand Master in the BY game.:D
We tread under your shadow.:p
Don't be too humble.
Cheers.

warbird

09-02-2014, 10:49 PM

Dear Bro WB
You claimed to be a trainee far too long.:eek:
You are Grand Master in the BY game.:D
We tread under your shadow.:p
Don't be too humble.
Cheers.

Dear bro besafe,

Still a trainee or apprentice. I'm working day n night, leaving no stone unturned...making up for lost time.

My first visit to a KTV was in Sep 2008 and my first BY was in May 2009.

How to be a master w/ such limited experience?

I enjoy BY-ing SYTs of my type because it has done wonders to my health, confidence, self worth n happiness...

Here is what I like to say to all those girls I hv BY-ed: Thank you! You hv made me a better man, given me a new purpose in life. Because of all of you, I hv found myself...I hope I hv left u better than when I first met u.

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. .

What is my definition of a true sex master?

He is someone who is able to get 3 beautiful girls of his type in the same rm n within 30 minutes, he could make all the girls come n come, moaning n screaming w/ orgasms, with his voice n words only. Without touching any of the girls, without any sex toys.

And then he would proceed to give all three of them the most intense PVOs they hv ever experienced before.

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

12-02-2014, 03:13 PM

Just met a Miss Malaysia and full-time model recently and Bro WB asked me to post my FR here. He feels that anything to do with sexology can and should be posted in his thread and because he is such a great mentor and shifu to me, I obliged, despite my busy schedule.

Anyways, there are some details I only share with Bro WB so I’m only going to post a very short FR. Some details have to be omitted, unfortunately.

Miss Malaysia, let’s call her V, was a winner in one of many beauty pageants held annually in Malaysia. She’s a full time model and will be flying to Hong Kong this week to further her career in the entertainment industry. She will be taking up modelling assignments there and if she is lucky, could end up in films. V is 22 yo, 165cm, fair, long hair, 32C-23-34, long slim arms and legs, and sharp facial features. In short, she passes every single stringent criteria of Bro WB.

She greeted me, at the hotel lobby, in a small white dress and a great big smile showing her perfect pearly whites. A firm handshake and she introduced herself with her real name. (How I know it was her real name? I’ve done my homework, and girls of such prominence, it’s not a difficult task). And then we went into the lift.

When we locked ourselves in the room, she asked if I wanted to shower first. I suggested to shower together but she smiled and rejected me shyly. Won’t force you then, I thought, and proceeded to take out a cloth hanger from the wardrobe. She took it from me and told me she will help me hang my clothes and so I changed to my birthday suit and hand her my clothing. After I showered, it was her turn.

We went to bed and snuggle together and chatted. She started the conversation in Mandarin so I followed suit. It’s the very distinctive Malaysian Mandarin with the unmistakable and unique Malaysian accent. Its very nice to have a Malaysian beauty queen in your arm and in bed with you. She told me how she took the 8am Air Asia flight from LCCT and came all the way to Singapore and she’s a little tired. I told her to close her eyes and take a rest. She said she can’t do that (need to work, of cos). I said its ok, just close your eyes and rest. I rolled over to face her to take a good look at her beautiful face and that made her blush and uneasy. Suddenly, without warning, our conversation went from Mandarin to French. I do not remember who started it first.

Her hand was the first to find its way to my little one – OK, maybe not so little by then. Actually, she was an instant turn-on, giving me an instant hard-on with all her demure, golden ratio looks and figure – perfect combination. I kneaded her smooth and super soft C cuppers and took my own sweet time to work my way all over her body, all the while maintaining the French conversation. I cupped my palm over her pussy and after a while feel her pussy and it was already wet! That’s fast! Wasted no time and climbed over her and slowly worked my way down. She let out soft moans of ecstasy and arch her body towards me. She then grab my hands and moved them to her soft breasts and I cupped them again.

After a while, she pulled me up, rolled over and pin me down on the bed and climbed onto me – it was pay-back time! She sure knew how to please me and tease me! After a while, she had positioned herself in cowgirl position and her pussy was almost touching my deprived manhood, gyrating and teasing me, as if to invite me to enter her! I told myself: OMG, don’t tell me you are going to enter me raw!!! To my relieve, she reached over to the bedside table, held the Durex in front of me and asked innocently: do you want to put on the condom? I quickly took the package, tear it open and put it on in one fast motion. Not that I don’t want her to put it on for me, I just can’t wait anymore! And she rode me. Now, many FLs would ask if I want to be on top first cos many are lazy and don’t like to do the extra work. V? She just put the rod in and rode. No questions asked. Again she grabbed my hands and put them on her breasts. Her breasts were really very nice to knead – they are not too big and they are not small and they are oh so smooth and soft. But then, her small waist is nice to hold too. And every inch of her body.

I actually promised a short FR so I’ll just summarize here – we switched many positions, some at my request, some at her request, and we cycled through those positions again after running out of ideas – I’m not a very creative person I suppose. We covered ourselves in each other’s perspiration despite blasting the air-con at 18 degrees high at the start of the sexxion. Her light weight body was very nice to pump, her body moves up and down with each of my thrust and after almost 45 mins of non-stop action, I exploded with her grinding me furiously in cowgal position! Boy, I didn’t know I had so much semen to discharge.

No rush, not a time watcher – she asked me if I had to go off when I checked the clock after the deed. She was in no rush though, cos her next assignment was more than 4 hours away. Anyways, best FL ever! I left very satisfied and very smitten.

The End.

warbird

13-02-2014, 12:02 PM

Just met a Miss Malaysia and full-time model recently and Bro WB asked me to post my FR here. He feels that anything to do with sexology can and should be posted in his thread............................................ .................................................. ........ anyways, best FL ever! I left very satisfied and very smitten.

Dear bro FA,

Congrats to u for a great fxxk and thank u for ur detailed FR on a M'sian beauty queen/model.

I thought she had come under the knife because of her sharp facial features but now we know she has some Ang Moh blood haha.

I hope she would come back here in the near future.

Actually there r important lessons to be learned from this particular case but I can't discuss them, for various reasons, unfortunately.

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ..

Good afternoon!

After much reflections, I sincerely believe that, in life, the most powerful instinctual urge for a healthy heterosexual man is his quest for pussies which are very attractive, completely safe and absolutely exclusive. Some call this sex drive or libido. It's the jet fuel for his relentless pursuit of education, money, fame and power...

I assume such a man has met his basic survival needs such as air, water n food. Has anyone here been deprived of fresh air for more than 2-3 minutes? When u know you're are going to die of asphyxiation in seconds, u will DO ANYTHING, I mean ANYTHING, to get some fresh air, before u lose consciousness. For water deprivation, it's about 72 hours depending on the ambient temperature, etc...

Of course, in many cases, he may sublimate this powerful motivator/ambition or libido into something culturally, religiously and socially 'higher' and more acceptable hahaha. This something could be literature, art, music, entrepreneurship, inventions, sports, science, exploration, adventure, etc., which has greatly benefited mankind.

Any comments?

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

13-02-2014, 12:16 PM

Yes Bro WB, too bad certain things can’t be discussed openly. Otherwise, it’s a good learning experience.

fallen.angel

14-02-2014, 11:46 AM

OK guys, I have to post this here:

I have written FRs on 2 Malaysian beauty queens and have received many PMs asking for contacts. I had replied every single PMs the last time but feel that I need to clarify certain things in the open so that I do not need to repeat myself everytime.

This contact I got was from Bro WB. But don’t go flood Bro WB’s PM just yet. If you do, he will reprimand me, hehehe. We are more than willing to share the contact but please understand the following:

1) We cannot just share contact to anyone we have not met – what if you are an AV in disguise?
2) The price starts from a couple thousands to 5-digits – not everyone can afford and most importantly, not everyone who can afford wants to pay that kind of money

Having said that, this contact can bring in actresses from Taiwan and Hong Kong, other than beauty queens/models in Singapore and Malaysia.

If you are really serious, you can meet Bro WB (or me) in one of those regular outings and ask us. But if you are just curious who is in the trade… well, we can talk in private, but face-to-face of cos

P/s: V has been one of my best FL fcuks ever but she will be going to HK to further her career and may not come back anytime soon

warbird

14-02-2014, 02:31 PM

Yes Bro WB, too bad certain things can’t be discussed openly. Otherwise, it’s a good learning experience.

Very good learning experience indeed.

OK guys, I have to post this here:

I have written FRs on 2 Malaysian beauty queens and have received many PMs asking for contacts.....................

1) We cannot just share contact to anyone we have not met – what if you are an AV in disguise?
2) The price starts from a couple thousands to 5-digits – not everyone can afford and most importantly, not everyone who can afford wants to pay that kind of money

Having said that, this contact can bring in actresses from Taiwan and Hong Kong, other than beauty queens/models in Singapore and Malaysia.

If you are really serious, you can meet Bro WB (or me) in one of those regular outings and ask us...............................

P/s: V has been one of my best FL fcuks ever but she will be going to HK to further her career and may not come back anytime soon

Bro FA, thanks so much for ur posts.

These young celebs hv many suitors who may not know they r in the trade. I won't be surprised that a rich young man will be thrilled when V says yes to his proposition in 2-3 yrs haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

14-02-2014, 03:07 PM

Very good learning experience indeed.

Bro FA, thanks so much for ur posts.

These young celebs hv many suitors who may not know they r in the trade. I won't be surprised that a rich young man will be thrilled when V says yes to his proposition in 2-3 yrs haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Ignorance is bliss Bro WB. LOL. For us, we can try to taste them before they are no longer in the market...

PrinceCharles

14-02-2014, 03:12 PM

we can try to taste them before they are no
longer in the market...

Would definately agree with this ;)

miniboy

15-02-2014, 07:30 PM

Ple share ur expereince w/ all of us - warbird
receive this comment on the reputation point system

not sure where to start ...
grown up been a honest straight confucius man
have been a workaholic through my life
normal family with lovely housewife
2 male children grown up and the youngest 1 finishing ns

starts to patronise sbf fls seven years ago for a brief stint and stop
2 years ago had my first "BY" prc 22yrs old student which i last heard is now a mum married happily to a young rich singapore kid
i began to feel my second teenage life by playing the game "BYs" according to ts warbird

among those hunted, one of them is the famous well known chinese actress, singapore daughter in law

warbird

17-02-2014, 01:57 PM

Ignorance is bliss Bro WB. LOL. For us, we can try to taste them before they are no longer in the market...

Dear bro FA,

I don't agree that ignorance is bliss.

"To seek nothing is bliss." Hahaha...

Would definately agree with this ;)

Prince Charles is an example of a really high status male who has low value n low status body language haha. Why? His subconscious mind believes that he is actually worth very little.

Ple share ur experience w/ all of us - warbird
receive this comment on the reputation point system

not sure where to start ...
grown up been a honest straight confucius man
have been a workaholic through my life
normal family with lovely housewife
2 male children grown up and the youngest 1 finishing ns

starts to patronise sbf fls seven years ago for a brief stint and stop
2 years ago had my first "BY" prc 22yrs old student which i last heard is now a mum married happily to a young rich singapore kid
i began to feel my second teenage life by playing the game "BYs" according to ts warbird

among those hunted, one of them is the famous well known chinese actress, singapore daughter in law

Dear bro miniboy,

Thanks for ur post.

Any take home lessons n pointers for us?

Cheers!

Bro WB

miniboy

17-02-2014, 03:46 PM

warbird

18-02-2014, 05:52 PM

still learning
picking up here and there

love watching seniors picking up ktv gals outside ktvs
love hearing ktv gals exchanging whisper outside ktvs
love but no jealous, there are plenty available and more in the future to come
the more i love the more i learnt

recently pick up a habit of tipping ktv gals to teach and guide me
and the amount of time spent to find a good treasure gal is shorten

Dear bro miniboy,

Learning is fun.

Do u mean giving extra tips to girls to teach u how to find pretty girls or to ST/BY them?
Cheers!

Bro WB

..................................................

Good morning!

I started this thread almost 5 yrs ago. At that time I thought picking up these KTV gals outside KTVs was a major achievement haha.

This thread has come a long way n has expanded n evolved into ST-ing, BY-ing KTVs gals, FLs n non-WLs n beyond, including many facets of man-woman relationship...getting pretty girls/women of ur type emotionally n sexually addicted to you, etc. Last but not least, related topics such as making money, male dominance status, masculine traits n self mastery/emotional control are germane to this thread as they r related to ur success as a MAN.

Cheers!

Bro WB

chenzong

19-02-2014, 12:55 PM

(BTW, there is a bro who went to XTD at the Verge, against my sincere advice, was most disappointed w/ the quality of gals there. They all CMI, he texted me, hahaha. I told u so!!)from bro Warbird
Haha I have the same thoughts too...many a time brother chio me to XTD I didn't follow them.

Perhaps we have different ideas of cmi? I went there and was accompanied by this Cambodian girl with lovely bright eyes. She was very playable.

miniboy

19-02-2014, 02:06 PM

Do u mean giving extra tips to girls to teach u how to find pretty girls or to ST/BY them

Bro WB

both and all

pretty 1s earn by selling sex
normal 1s earn my money selling their brain

it is an achievement of getting these ktv girls succeed and doing good in life
with a little of capital contribution to an ex fl, she is now making a lot of money
now, the more i get to see her the more attractive she is

some1 mention he patronise a m'sia model to support her road to be hk actress. it is some kind of providing for another to succeed
which is good for both parties
be happy and win win for all

excuss me for my bad english

warbird

23-02-2014, 10:09 AM

Perhaps we have different ideas of cmi? I went there and was accompanied by this Cambodian girl with lovely bright eyes. She was very playable.

Bro chenzong,

One man's meat is another man's poison.

both and all

pretty 1s earn by selling sex
normal 1s earn my money selling their brain

it is an achievement of getting these ktv girls succeed and doing good in life
with a little of capital contribution to an ex fl, she is now making a lot of money
now, the more i get to see her the more attractive she is

some1 mention he patronise a m'sia model to support her road to be hk actress. it is some kind of providing for another to succeed
which is good for both parties
be happy and win win for all

excuss me for my bad english

Bro miniboy,

Win-win-win situation. Good karma.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Jaded86

23-02-2014, 05:23 PM

Good day bro Warbird, i've been an avid reader for some time now, quietly reading and learning off the vault of experience and tips shared by some of the senior bros like yourself.

Some of the things i've learnt and seen over my past 2 years of going KTV (sometimes even 3-4 times a week) really reinforces your points.

Confidence in a guy is really important. Not losing your cool or letting your emotions show really does play a part in how the girls view you.

Thanks for your pointers so far and hope to read more insightful sharings ~

Not sure if we'll have the chance to meet up for a drink.

deathnitez

24-02-2014, 07:18 AM

My quest is completed.....been busy with these korean and jap chick for the past 2 month..... Damn i just got a weak spot for this korean model..... will tell more when I have more time.....:cool:

fallen.angel

24-02-2014, 11:22 AM

Bro WB has always been looking out for gals to BY. He has many sources and channels he draws from and he has reviewed hundreds, if not thousands, of gals. He has shown me pics of gals he has earmarked for further action and I have also seen pics of (and in person) his mistresses.

Whilst his exacting standards on body measurements and proportions are what I also agree with, we may have very different opinion when it comes to a gal’s looks.

Now we all know or have heard about people whose lives were destroyed because of gambling, alcohol, and keeping mistresses. We have heard of old uncles selling their HDB flats (against family’s objection) or handing over their hard-earned CPF money to scheming women who use KC to cheat every single cent from them unsuspecting uncles. I’ve heard of a rich guy who spent a couple of millions on a singer only to have her escaped back to China, leaving the poor wife and daughter to go to KTV to cry foul (in vain).

Why am I saying all these? Well, last week, I connected the dots and came out with a new theory and told Bro WB about it and he asked me to post it here.

Bro WB has always said that since he started BY, his net worth has doubled. The confidence he has mastered has spilled over to other areas of his life and he is benefitting from it – not just his wealth, but also his health and other aspects of his life. So while many guys get KCed and have their lives destroyed by these SYTs, Bro WB is getting the opposite effect! Plus, I also realised that many of his ex-BYees married into rich families.

And this is where my new “theory” is born – Bro WB is subconsciously and hard-wired to be drawn to gals who have the 旺夫相. This is something Bro WB is unaware of but because of the 100s of pics he showed me and because of the gals I’ve seen who he is attracted and attached to, I began to see a pattern. Now, I’m not a fortune teller nor someone who knows面相學 but I connected the dots. So the more he BY the type of gals that he is attracted to, the luckier he becomes. Of cos, these types of gals must be willing to accept him and become his mistresses so there’s still actual work Bro WB has to do in order to attract and retain them. It is a positive cycle – each reinforcing one another. If you were to pick a slutty and crafting woman – its very easy, for all they want is your money. Down to the very last cent. These are the gals with克夫相. But Bro WB has unknowingly gone for the challenge – to conquer the gals with 旺夫相.

miniboy

24-02-2014, 01:03 PM

I’ve heard of a rich guy who spent a couple of millions on a singer only to have her escaped back to China, leaving the poor wife and daughter to go to KTV to cry foul (in vain).

any chance we get to BY the wife and daughter ?

fallen.angel

24-02-2014, 01:41 PM

any chance we get to BY the wife and daughter ?

I don’t profess to know about Chinese fortune telling but I think, and I stand corrected, there are really two distinctive looks that are beneficial to the husband -益夫相 and 旺夫相.

The first one is when the wife is very helpful and capable. She may come from a rich family or just plain capable, meaning she helps out the husband, whether helping him with his business or career, or take care of the family so well that the man has no worries when he’s outside making a living. Or she may help the man financially. Whatever it is, if you married such a lady, good for you cos your life will improve.

Then the second type, which is the ones I’m really referring to. She doesn’t have to do anything. Just by the fact that she’s with you, you become lucky and your wealth just grow and grow. This type is the best.

When you talk about gals who want to 嫁入豪門, well, they will want to look beautiful and so if they do not already have the V shaped face, they go under the knife and shave off the bone, ouch, to look like one. But according to 面相學, gals (and guys too) who have a V shaped face is not good for the family – it means they don’t know how to take care of the family, something like that.

A very famous fortune teller from Hong Kong mentioned that when he walks into the high class lounge for high tea, and see two different groups of rich women, he can tell, based on their facial features, who are 太太 and who are the 小三

Also, Bro WB may also be unknowingly going for those gals who are can bear him many children. It is ingrained in him and he doesn’t know it! LOL

These are nothing new, just a very fresh and different perspective looking at things. Just like a successful person will always be subconsciously seeking out things and people who will benefit or aid him in his road to success. I for one, will have to relook at the choice of gals I want to associate myself with! LOL!

alfonse

24-02-2014, 08:29 PM

Nice thread here. Could someone help me out? Whats the meaning of "BY"? I've combed through quite a lot of pages from this thread but must have missed it out or something.

miniboy

25-02-2014, 10:26 AM

Nice thread here. Could someone help me out? Whats the meaning of "BY"? I've combed through quite a lot of pages from this thread but must have missed it out or something.

BY = BAO YANG 包养
giving a lady money in return for her loyalty in a period of time

miniboy

25-02-2014, 10:33 AM

益夫相旺夫相嫁入豪門面相學

thanks for the explanation provided :)

warbird

26-02-2014, 12:35 PM

Good day bro Warbird, i've been an avid reader for some time now....

Some of the things i've learnt and seen over my past 2 years of going KTV (sometimes even 3-4 times a week) really reinforces your points.

Confidence in a guy is really important. Not losing your cool or letting your emotions show really does play a part in how the girls view you...................

Not sure if we'll have the chance to meet up for a drink.

Dear bro jaded86,

I'm thrilled that you hv benefited from reading this thread.

Yes, self mastery is what separates a MAN from the boys. And ALL healthy heterosexual girls/women want n need a MAN. What really matters is not his looks, physical size, fame, status, wealth or age, but the POWER of his masculine traits, sexual confidence n self control.

Pls join one of my future outings.

My quest is completed.....been busy with these korean and jap chick for the past 2 month..... Damn i just got a weak spot for this korean model..... will tell more when I have more time.....:cool:

Good for u bro.

Bro WB has always been looking out for gals to BY. He has many sources and channels.............He has shown me pics of gals he has earmarked for further action and I have also seen pics of (and in person) his mistresses.

Whilst his exacting standards on body measurements and proportions are what I also agree with, we may have very different opinion when it comes to a gal’s looks.

Now we all know or have heard about people whose lives were destroyed because of gambling, alcohol, and keeping mistresses......................
Well, last week, I connected the dots and came out with a new theory and told Bro WB about it and he asked me to post it here.

Bro WB has always said that since he started BY, his net worth has doubled. The confidence he has mastered has spilled over to other areas of his life and he is benefitting from it – not just his wealth, but also his health and other aspects of his life. So while many guys get KCed and have their lives destroyed by these SYTs, Bro WB is getting the opposite effect! Plus, I also realised that many of his ex-BYees married into rich families.

And this is where my new “theory” is born – Bro WB is subconsciously and hard-wired to be drawn to gals who have the 旺夫相. This is something Bro WB is unaware of but because of the 100s of pics he showed me and because of the gals I’ve seen who he is attracted and attached to, I began to see a pattern........... So the more he BY the type of gals that he is attracted to, the luckier he becomes..................It is a positive cycle – each reinforcing one another. If you were to pick a slutty and crafting woman – its very easy, for all they want is your money. Down to the very last cent. These are the gals with克夫相. But Bro WB has unknowingly gone for the challenge – to conquer the gals with 旺夫相.

Dear bro fallen.angel,

Thanks for ur post.

What a revelation! You're very smart n perceptive n hv excellent analytical skills.

About a wk ago you alerted me to something I didn't know myself. After ruminating on the issue for a few days, I know you're spot on.

Perhaps a good example of the type of looks I like is Japanese actress Nana Eikura who was the heroine in a Jap TV detective series I was watching. I'm disappointed that our agent could not intro her to me. She is a model n actress (Non-AV).

Attraction is not a choice. If I'm hard-wired to find girls who hv the 旺夫相, the more gals I BY-ed, the happier, healthier n richer I'll become!

Some bros may wonder why I would reject a seeming pretty girl n yet accept someone 'less attractive,' at least as far as they r concerned. Now you all know why.

Cheers!

Bro WB

any chance we get to BY the wife and daughter ?

Why would u want to do that? Besides, they r still rich.

I don’t profess to know about Chinese fortune telling but I think, and I stand corrected, there are really two distinctive looks that are beneficial to the husband -益夫相 and 旺夫相.

The first one is when the wife is very helpful and capable. She may come from a rich family or just plain capable...........Whatever it is, if you married such a lady, good for you cos your life will improve.

Then the second type, which is the ones I’m really referring to. She doesn’t have to do anything. Just by the fact that she’s with you, you become lucky and your wealth just grow and grow. This type is the best.

When you talk about gals who want to 嫁入豪門, well, they will want to look beautiful and so if they do not already have the V shaped face, they go under the knife and shave off the bone, ouch, to look like one. But according to 面相學, gals (and guys too) who have a V shaped face is not good for the family – it means they don’t know how to take care of the family, something like that....................

Also, Bro WB may also be unknowingly going for those gals who are can bear him many children. It is ingrained in him and he doesn’t know it! LOL

These are nothing new, just a very fresh and different perspective looking at things. Just like a successful person will always be subconsciously seeking out things and people who will benefit or aid him in his road to success. I for one, will have to relook at the choice of gals I want to associate myself with! LOL!

Bro FA,

You're amazingly good. Thanks a million!!

You forgot to mention that I also don't like gals who hv any type of plastic surgery or hv 'modern looks.' For ST or short term BY, I may choose gals who r not really my type if they hv the right body proportions n are 'pretty.'

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

27-02-2014, 10:49 AM

Good morning!

I just replied to bro hehehaha on some issues posted on my other thread.

<<<<<Dear bro hehehaha,

Getting a visa to the US is actually quite easy. A PR is a lot easier. It's the number one destination for the rich from China. I hv not met a PRC girl who doesn't want me to take her there.

Sadly, the quality of gals coming here may not improve unless ICA changes its "get tough on pretty SYTs from PRC" policies.

Why? To appease uglier SG girls/women? The few attractive local SG girls either marry foreigners or local men from rich families or are FLs. Sorry for being ruthlessly honest here. I stand by my statement.

In fact, there r too few attractive local gals for even the rich young men here. It's a matter of supply n demand. That was why I wasn't surprised when one of my ex-mistresses married a wealthy n young local man 3 1/2 yrs ago. She is now 23 n has two beautiful kids. I'm very happy for her.

I guess ICA is encouraging SG men to marry older n uglier women...that will ensure our next generation remain physically unattractive. It's inexplicable. We must improve our gene pool.

When my two young n tall mistresses suggest that they bear my kids (one says using a surrogate mother), I may go for it. But I'm still looking for even more attractive genes from China...I'm just doing my part as a loyal citizen hahaha.

Finally, the crack down on vice in China may not last. Its negative impact on the economy is enormous. Vice n BY-ing er nai keep the money circulating, trickling down from the rich to the poor, albeit really only a small trickle. It's a form of wealth redistribution. It's not much, but something is better than nothing, a form of safety valve. President Xi can't shut the valve off for too long...

Cheers!

Bro WB >>>>>

fallen.angel

27-02-2014, 11:00 AM

Dear bro fallen.angel,

Thanks for ur post.

What a revelation! You're very smart n perceptive n hv excellent analytical skills.

About a wk ago you alerted me to something I didn't know myself. After ruminating on the issue for a few days, I know you're spot on.

Perhaps a good example of the type of looks I like is Japanese actress Nana Eikura who was the heroine in a Jap TV detective series I was watching. I'm disappointed that our agent could not intro her to me. She is a model n actress (Non-AV).

Attraction is not a choice. If I'm hard-wired to find girls who hv the 旺夫相, the more gals I BY-ed, the happier, healthier n richer I'll become!

Some bros may wonder why I would reject a seeming pretty girl n yet accept someone 'less attractive,' at least as far as they r concerned. Now you all know why.

Bro FA,

You're amazingly good. Thanks a million!!

You forgot to mention that I also don't like gals who hv any type of plastic surgery or hv 'modern looks.' For ST or short term BY, I may choose gals who r not really my type if they hv the right body proportions n are 'pretty.'

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes yes, I forgot to mention that you don't like gals who have gone under the knife, my bad... LOL! :p

Last night went out with a friend on a double date with 2 gals we pulled away from LV... we went to Sentosa Cove for drinks. Can tell the gal who was with me was very impressed with me... yawn... and we chatted until 2.30am outside her apartment... she kept on insisting that I must have PRC gfs before but I just kept her guessing... sigh, why are the gals I'm not interested in, interested in me?

miniboy

27-02-2014, 11:32 AM

不到神州万里大地
不知人间竟有天堂
美人仙女随处可见
就要看你有何本事

Jaded86

27-02-2014, 09:47 PM

Dear bro jaded86,

I'm thrilled that you hv benefited from reading this thread.

Yes, self mastery is what separates a MAN from the boys. And ALL healthy heterosexual girls/women want n need a MAN. What really matters is not his looks, physical size, fame, status, wealth or age, but the POWER of his masculine traits, sexual confidence n self control.

Pls join one of my future outings.

Hi Bro Warbird,

Have definitely learned much from both this thread as well as my interactions with PRC KTV gals be it in SG or China.

Am still trying to build up my confidence level to higher stage haha.

I realized that girls in general (not just PRC) tend to flock towards guys exuding confidence.

Will see if I ever have the honor of meeting you over a drink ! Cheerios~

saabking

02-03-2014, 11:30 AM

Hi Bro Warbird,

Have definitely learned much from both this thread as well as my interactions with PRC KTV gals be it in SG or China.

Am still trying to build up my confidence level to higher stage haha.

I realized that girls in general (not just PRC) tend to flock towards guys exuding confidence.

Will see if I ever have the honor of meeting you over a drink ! Cheerios~

yup..although in front of you they call you 脸皮厚; deep down they admire your confidence..and look up to you...

miniboy

03-03-2014, 10:18 AM

yup..although in front of you they call you 脸皮厚; deep down they admire your confidence..and look up to you...

was receiving a bj from my new prc gf days ago

so i ask her "我的小龙不错水多味道好"
she replied "脸皮真厚"

so she must have admire my confidence :D

warbird

04-03-2014, 09:38 AM

Yes yes, I forgot to mention that you don't like gals who have gone under the knife, my bad... LOL! :p

Last night went out with a friend on a double date with 2 gals we pulled away from LV... we went to Sentosa Cove for drinks................ sigh, why are the gals I'm not interested in, interested in me?

Dear bro fallen.angel,

I normally shun girls who are smokers, heavy drinkers or gamblers...

Yes, girls are more attracted to you if you seem to hv less interest in them... you don't want or need to get into their pants. And hence you're very relaxed, confident n witty. You appear hard to get...

It's probable that ur behaviour n body language are different if you interact w/ a very attractive girl of ur type, especially for the first time. You try to impress her n you're tense n cautious because you don't want to miss your chance...

Cheers!

Bro WB

不到神州万里大地
不知人间竟有天堂
美人仙女随处可见
就要看你有何本事

Very true bro.

Hi Bro Warbird,

Have definitely learned much from both this thread as well as my interactions with PRC KTV gals be it in SG or China.

Am still trying to build up my confidence level to higher stage haha.

I realized that girls in general (not just PRC) tend to flock towards guys exuding confidence.

Will see if I ever have the honor of meeting you over a drink ! Cheerios~

Hi bro Jaded86,

Honor will be all mine bro. Pls PM me...

yup..although in front of you they call you 脸皮厚; deep down they admire your confidence..and look up to you...

Yes, they are attracted to men w/ thick skin.

was receiving a bj from my new prc gf days ago

so i ask her "我的小龙不错水多味道好"
she replied "脸皮真厚"

so she must have admire my confidence :D

Good for u bro.

fallen.angel

04-03-2014, 05:39 PM

Dear bro fallen.angel,

Yes, girls are more attracted to you if you seem to hv less interest in them... you don't want or need to get into their pants. And hence you're very relaxed, confident n witty. You appear hard to get...

It's probable that ur behaviour n body language are different if you interact w/ a very attractive girl of ur type, especially for the first time. You try to impress her n you're tense n cautious because you don't want to miss your chance...

Cheers!

Bro WB

Not much different even if the gal is my type... and you know what I mean but I can't disclose here. Always have the mind set that there are way too many attractive gals for you to choose - that way, you won't give up the whole forest for a tree, cos like it or not, gals come and go and there's always a better one. Problem is, are you still sane enough for the next gal?

warbird

06-03-2014, 02:11 PM

Not much different even if the gal is my type... and you know what I mean but I can't disclose here. Always have the mind set that there are way too many attractive gals for you to choose - that way, you won't give up the whole forest for a tree, cos like it or not, gals come and go and there's always a better one. Problem is, are you still sane enough for the next gal?

Dear bro fallen.angel,

Kudos to your 'abundance' mindset!

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ...

Good afternoon!

I hv had only infrequent outings to KTVs n other joints in the last two months.

The way I see it, life is too short to waste on spending time on girls who r not my type.

A case study on pick up.

Not long ago, I approached a cute, fair n tall SYT YY waiting for taxi near PC. Another gal was with her n both of them had lots of luggage. I thought they were going to Changi Airport. No, their first day in SG, n they didn't like the rm here n were going to a nearby place. It turned out that both were singers n would start work the next day at one of the PC joints. YY gave me her HP no n later added me to her Wechat. Unfortunately, her many photos in Wechat reveal rather undeveloped breasts. A or A/B? I lost my interest. She is on 2 yr pass n BY-ing her would be around 12K a month, plus flowers n shows, etc, according to an experienced bro. Easily 20-25K a month n she still has to work. Price far exceeds value. If she had natural C, might be worth it haha. However, if she had natural C she would hv been BY-ed by a 土豪 in China n would never hv come here. So far I hv not spent a penny. That is the beauty of picking up girls outside a joint.

Cheers!

Bro WB

jdi813

07-03-2014, 02:02 AM

Jaded86

07-03-2014, 10:59 PM

Good afternoon!

I hv had only infrequent outings to KTVs n other joints in the last two months.

The way I see it, life is too short to waste on spending time on girls who r not my type.

A case study on pick up.

Not long ago, I approached a cute, fair n tall SYT YY waiting for taxi near PC. Another gal was with her n both of them had lots of luggage. I thought they were going to Changi Airport. No, their first day in SG, n they didn't like the rm here n were going to a nearby place. It turned out that both were singers n would start work the next day at one of the PC joints. YY gave me her HP no n later added me to her Wechat. Unfortunately, her many photos in Wechat reveal rather undeveloped breasts. A or A/B? I lost my interest. She is on 2 yr pass n BY-ing her would be around 12K a month, plus flowers n shows, etc, according to an experienced bro. Easily 20-25K a month n she still has to work. Price far exceeds value. If she had natural C, might be worth it haha. However, if she had natural C she would hv been BY-ed by a 土豪 in China n would never hv come here. So far I hv not spent a penny. That is the beauty of picking up girls outside a joint.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dear Bro Warbird, will drop u a pm to see if we can arrange a session for me to learn more from the master.

On a side track, over the past week I've managed to up 2 girls which I've been eying for awhile in ChinaDoll. All it took was a show of nonchalance about upping them, showing them that they are of little importance and I am just there for the drinks, songs and company of friends.

While they did not ask for money, I still bought them some small gifts of equivalent value. I'm of the idea that there is no such thing as a free lunch, only that the payment will come later. Hence I do not want to feel like I "owe" them anything.

miniboy

08-03-2014, 11:10 AM

Picking up KTV gals... 03-03-2014 11:40 PM i admire your STUPIDITY

ai yo dont like that lah
just post a comment nia u down me to negative :p

warbird

08-03-2014, 11:16 AM

this statement is so true :D ... unfortunately so is the next line after it :p

Hi bro jdi813,

Wise words from bro FA.

But knowing and understanding is totally different from doing and being hahaha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Dear Bro Warbird, will drop u a pm to see if we can arrange a session for me to learn more from the master.

On a side track, over the past week I've managed to up 2 girls which I've been eying for awhile in ChinaDoll. All it took was a show of nonchalance about upping them, showing them that they are of little importance and I am just there for the drinks, songs and company of friends.

While they did not ask for money, I still bought them some small gifts of equivalent value. I'm of the idea that there is no such thing as a free lunch, only that the payment will come later. Hence I do not want to feel like I "owe" them anything.

Hi bro Jaded86,

I'm still a trainee. I would be happy to hv u join one of my outings.

Your nonchalance n confidence was the main reason you got the girls. May I take lessons from u?

I hv learned a lot from many esteemed bros here, including bro FA. But I like to reiterate: Knowing and understanding is totally different from doing and being.

A man can hv profound understanding on the subject of self mastery n emotional control n may even be the world's foremost authority on the subject. But he himself may still be very emotional n get angry over a trivial matter hahaha. Sadly, he can't control his subconscious mind...

My main mission in life at this time is NOT BY-ing SYTs or making money, but is to reprogram my subconscious mind for positive emotions n absolute self mastery. I'm making slow n steady progress.

Cheers!

Bro WB

................................................

Good morning!

I do hv some questions for my dear bro FA. We hv had frequent discussions thru Wechat/Whatsapp on a variety of subjects including girls, ST-ing, BY-ing, PVOs, health, etc. I hv great respect for him as he is very successful in many areas. I hv also learned a great deal from him. In some way, he knows me better than I know myself!

However, I need clarification from bro FA when he wrote:

"Last night went out with a friend on a double date with 2 gals we pulled away from LV... we went to Sentosa Cove for drinks................ sigh, why are the gals I'm not interested in, interested in me?"

It could be a casual remark w/ no significance at all. In fact, he has far better self mastery than I. But for the sake of discussion, I like to pose some questions for clarification:

Firstly, why would he waste his precious time w/ a girl he wasn't interested in? OK, he may be attracted to her, but not interested in her as a sexual partner. Or perhaps he was obliged to accompany his friend.

Secondly, why would he ask the obvious question in the first place? He knew the answer. Perhaps for me to answer to illustrate a vital principle?

Thirdly, since he is completely relaxed n nonchalant w/ girls he is attracted to, they will be also interested in n attracted to him...why the sigh?

Cheers!

Bro WB

fallen.angel

08-03-2014, 11:57 PM

Thanks Bro Warbird for raising the questions. I'll gladly answer them for you, and for the rest of the bros. Actually more for others to read since we always discuss everything privately ~ there's nothing you don't know about me LOL! But before I answer the questions, I need to point out, or remind you of, one fundamental difference between us. You go for long term relationships; I shun them. The reason is very simple ~ while it's against my principle to compare, I'm only 1% of your net worth. Actually, I may have over estimated myself as I'm a very positive person so for a person who tries to make ends meet, I simply can't afford to BY any gals. My tight schedule, work and family commitment also prohibits me to do so. I'm also scared of over zealous n jealous gals.

First question - it was me who had asked my friend (you know who) to go to a HFJ to pay a visit to a Taiwanese gal who works there. Unfortunately, she was on leave and my friend was outside LV, initially wanting to get a super hot gal to go to the HFJ with him. He asked me to join him at LV so I went there. We picked up the gal's friend and the 4 of us went to Sentosa in 2 cars. I was not obligated to accompany him, we were just out to have some fun n drinks with some gals we picked up. The gal is attractive but I'm just not interested to want to develop into a long term thing or to take it to the next level.

Second question. Yes I asked the obvious question. I wasn't lamenting on my catch who turned out to be very attracted to me. I asked the obvious question to illustrate a point that's been echoed repeatedly in this thread. Don't be desperate. When you become desperate, your target will lose interest. It's the same for both gender.

Third question. Yes, I do attract gals I am interested in. This one I can't say too much. Let's just say this 女神 who has thousands of followers and hundreds of "likes" on every posted pic, who doesn't reply to comments, has began to "like" my posts, flys in to meet me and will be flying in to meet me again. But this one I'm not going to take it all the way and make it long term as it involves a lot of money. Also, my modus operandi is not to go for long term.

I showed Bro WB some of the messages the gals sent me. I sent one such print screen to my friend. He called me immediately and said: dude, you need an escape plan! I said, I don't need one, I'll just ignore her when I don't feel like playing along. Yes, we are that afraid of "commitment". Like my friend said: we are here to provide them (KTV gals) an activity partner n fill their void. Remember the super hot gal he went out with? She's a super cockteaser. Has many suitors who bought her so many gifts n expensive watches. My friend spent nothing on her, except the going rate when we visit LV n drinks when they go out. He sent her to the airport. But there was an old man who kept insisting to send her off n even waited outside her house. Even when she gave an excuse that she's going to the airport with one of her gf. The old man saw my friend. He watched helplessly as she got into my friend's car. While in the car, he called her and asked why she bluff him. So you see, when you become desperate, you lose. Of cos, when my friend told me the incident, we had a good laugh, but we also know too well that there are many men out there suffering like that old man. Question is - who do you want to be? The cheated man or the confident guy who just want to have some fun?

I always encourage my gf to go out with other guys. She thinks I'm very 狂妄自大. But I told her: if you don't go out with more guys, how would you know I'm the best? And last I checked, she's still very much attracted to me.

I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily. :)

Jaded86

09-03-2014, 01:56 PM

I showed Bro WB some of the messages the gals sent me. I sent one such print screen to my friend. He called me immediately and said: dude, you need an escape plan! I said, I don't need one, I'll just ignore her when I don't feel like playing along. Yes, we are that afraid of "commitment". Like my friend said: we are here to provide them (KTV gals) an activity partner n fill their void. Remember the super hot gal he went out with? She's a super cockteaser. Has many suitors who bought her so many gifts n expensive watches. My friend spent nothing on her, except the going rate when we visit LV n drinks when they go out. He sent her to the airport. But there was an old man who kept insisting to send her off n even waited outside her house. Even when she gave an excuse that she's going to the airport with one of her gf. The old man saw my friend. He watched helplessly as she got into my friend's car. While in the car, he called her and asked why she bluff him. So you see, when you become desperate, you lose. Of cos, when my friend told me the incident, we had a good laugh, but we also know too well that there are many men out there suffering like that old man. Question is - who do you want to be? The cheated man or the confident guy who just want to have some fun?

I always encourage my gf to go out with other guys. She thinks I'm very 狂妄自大. But I told her: if you don't go out with more guys, how would you know I'm the best? And last I checked, she's still very much attracted to me.

I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily. :)

Hi Bro Fallen Angel, You and Bro WB are both highly confident men and me learning from you both have also allowed me to score.

I totally agree that as men, once we start to appear needy and sticky, the girls (KTV or otherwise) will shun you like the plague.

I dont drive so when I go out with the KTV girls, its mostly taxi except for 1 girl which insists on taking MRT and bus to save my money haha.

I remember once when I was out with her at ECP about 3am (yes 3am !) sitting on the beach talking when this guy kept wechatting her asking her where she is, asking her to meet him now. I remember 1 particular sentence from the guy “我很想现在看到你” She showed it to me and asked me to reply. I said send him your picture, she did and he did not know how to reply. We had a great laugh after that. (no offense if the bro is reading this)

deathnitez

10-03-2014, 10:01 PM

Hi Bros, been awhile since i post. Subject: Country Korean, model, 1.70 in height, Natural D 38-26-34. Know her from a TD. Dated her for less then two months and got her to bed. Dmg on her is abit high total around 2k.... This is the most i have spend on a working girl in my life...." But for some reason i didn't regret. :cool: I will tell you guys more of the whole process the next time...tired....

warbird

12-03-2014, 12:37 PM

Thanks Bro Warbird for raising the questions. I'll gladly answer them for you, and for the rest of the bros. Actually more for others to read since we always discuss everything privately............You go for long term relationships; I shun them. The reason is very simple ~ while it's against my principle to compare, I'm only 1% of your net worth. Actually, I may have over estimated myself as I'm a very positive person so for a person who tries to make ends meet, I simply can't afford to BY any gals. My tight schedule, work and family commitment also prohibits me to do so. I'm also scared of over zealous n jealous gals.

First question - it was me who had asked my friend (you know who) to go to a HFJ ...............He asked me to join him at LV so I went there. We picked up the gal's friend and the 4 of us went to Sentosa in 2 cars...........we were just out to have some fun n drinks with some gals we picked up. The gal is attractive but I'm just not interested to want to develop into a long term thing or to take it to the next level.

Second question. Yes I asked the obvious question. I wasn't lamenting on my catch who turned out to be very attracted to me. I asked the obvious question to illustrate a point that's been echoed repeatedly in this thread. Don't be desperate. When you become desperate, your target will lose interest. It's the same for both gender.

Third question. Yes, I do attract gals I am interested in. This one I can't say too much. Let's just say this 女神 who has thousands of followers and hundreds of "likes" on every posted pic, who doesn't reply to comments, has began to "like" my posts, flys in to meet me and will be flying in to meet me again. But this one I'm not going to take it all the way and make it long term as it involves a lot of money. Also, my modus operandi is not to go for long term.

I showed Bro WB some of the messages the gals sent me. I sent one such print screen to my friend. He called me immediately and said: dude, you need an escape plan! I said, I don't need one, I'll just ignore her when I don't feel like playing along..................Remember the super hot gal he went out with? She's a super cockteaser. Has many suitors who bought her so many gifts n expensive watches. My friend spent nothing on her, except the going rate when we visit LV n drinks when they go out. He sent her to the airport. But there was an old man who kept insisting to send her off n even waited outside her house.............but we also know too well that there are many men out there suffering like that old man. Question is - who do you want to be? The cheated man or the confident guy who just want to have some fun?

I always encourage my gf to go out with other guys. She thinks I'm very 狂妄自大. But I told her: if you don't go out with more guys, how would you know I'm the best? And last I checked, she's still very much attracted to me.

I hope I have answered your questions satisfactorily. :)

Dear Bro FA,

Thank u very much! You hv answered my questions very well.

But I beg to disagree w/ u that you hv 'only 1% of my net worth' because you could be much richer than I, you're merely better at concealing your real wealth haha. Don't worry, I'll NEVER ask u for a loan.

I know you're interested in ST only. Actually I would love to limit myself to ST or short-term BY-ing from 2 to 8 wks, like what I was doing from late 1977 though late 2010. Two problems for me. Firstly, many girls rejected me for ST n I ended up BY-ing them. Secondly, I really feel little w/ a CD whether my did is in her pussy or her mouth. I much prefer to do raw which gives me 10X the pleasure. However, It takes many months to check n monitor the safety n exclusivity of any girl. Hence I ended up keeping two mistresses LT...in addition to a special RS w/ a rich towkay's mistress.

Going out for a night of fun is great but I normally won't spend a penny on girls I don't intend to fxxk. I like to reduce the friction cost to the minimal.

I now fully understand why you hv been so 'nice' to all girls, at least initially, from the messages you sent me. The reason is that you don't want them to get KC-ed or be really attracted to you. But the irony is that sooner or later u hv to keep ur distance, unwittingly using the push-pull tactics n making them highly attracted to u! They r not yet truly in love w/ u cuz you hv not upped some of them haha.

I don't believe a healthy heterosexual woman can hv lasting love for a man unless he has given her many PVOs. I came to this revelation only recently, from reading, researching n from my own lifelong experiences.

Actually you also hv a LT GF n you hv revealed to me ur special RS n arrangement w/ her. I hv a similar RS w/ a rich towkay's mistress n I hv sent u her Wechat msg to me haha. But I can only meet her once or twice a month due to my busy schedule. That is driving her nuts as she is very hungry for me...later I'll detail my RS w/ her dating back more than 4 yrs.

As for ur goddess, you should seriously consider having the same RS as w/ ur current LT GF. It's doable bro. The key is giving her PVOs she has never experienced w/ another man.

I know your friend J, but I hv never met his 'super hot girl.' Any full body shots? Why would he send her to the airport? Only once hv I sent a LT mistress to the airport. I hv turned down all other requests. I'm not a taxi or limo driver n I don't hv the time. ONLY a nice guy will drive a girl to the airport. You know what happen to a nice guy haha. The old man was actually fighting to hv a chance to send her to the airport? How pathetic! I'm a lao chee ko pek too, but I hv a little better understanding of female psychology. He really didn't get it n will never get it. It's very sad that 99.99 % of men don't understand women n what they really want. In fact, most women don't know what they really want, in their subconscious minds. This towkay's mistress is abt 172 n she is still mocking my diminutive height...so what? She can't wait to fxxk me haha. Did J up this gal? If he didn't drive her to the airport, his chances would be much better, at least when he sees her again.

Driving a girl to the airport is generally a very bad idea. It shows that you're a nice guy who has too much time on your hand. It also confirms that she has more value n status than you. BTW, bro J is a nice guy.

Even if you're a 富二代 who doesn't work n and you're in love w/ the girl, don't drive her to the airport yourself, NOT even in ur 2013 Bugatti Veyron 15.4 Grand Sport Vitesse! Get your chauffeur to send her n u stay at home or in ur office to attend to more important business.

As men we must hv supreme sexual confidence n we must increase our sexual value n make bigger n bigger sexual impact, on women of our type, every hr, every day. Your every word, every action and body language, voice tone, etc....will either increase or decrease you sexual value n impact on women you come in contact with.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Hi Bro Fallen Angel, You and Bro WB are both highly confident men and me learning from you both have also allowed me to score.

I totally agree that as men, once we start to appear needy and sticky, the girls (KTV or otherwise) will shun you like the plague.

I dont drive so when I go out with the KTV girls, its mostly taxi except for 1 girl which insists on taking MRT and bus to save my money haha.

I remember once when I was out with her at ECP about 3am (yes 3am !) sitting on the beach talking when this guy kept wechatting her asking her where she is, asking her to meet him now. I remember 1 particular sentence from the guy “我很想现在看到你” She showed it to me and asked me to reply. I said send him your picture, she did and he did not know how to reply. We had a great laugh after that. (no offense if the bro is reading this)

Dear Bro Jaded86,

You're doing very well.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Hi Bros, been awhile since i post. Subject: Country Korean, model, 1.70 in height, Natural D 38-26-34. Know her from a TD. Dated her for less then two months and got her to bed. Dmg on her is abit high total around 2k.... This is the most i have spend on a working girl in my life...." But for some reason i didn't regret. :cool: I will tell you guys more of the whole process the next time...tired....

Bro,

Good for u! Any pics? PM them to me.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good afternoon!

Some money may be needed to get into the pants of the prettiest n sexiest girls of ur type anywhere in this world. And a lot more to keep them as ur exclusive mistresses. But no amount of money will make her emotionally n sexually addicted to u or fall for u. You know exactly how to behave n what to do haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

almond666

13-03-2014, 12:49 AM

I am 32 now. 2 years ago, I am outside a KTV pub in Choo Chiat smoking. My friends have left and I am really having a smoke and a bottle of water before making my way back. A young Viet girl, 22 years old, start chatting to me. She ask me if I am alone and what I am doing there. She came across as somewhat chatty but not slutty, she is not trying to make money with me. We went to the 7/11 nearby and got soft drinks and started chatting more. We must have talk for about 2 hours before I walk her home, she live like 10 mins walk only. We exchange no. and I drove back home. Physically, she is quite fair and is wearing a body hugging white top with hot pants. She had long smooth hair and a beautiful feminine face with big eyes. Her body is also super hot, her boobs are a big B or small C and her waist are really tiny.

Anyway, I was quite busy the next day and forgot about her. She called me 2 days later and it was a Sunday so we met up for lunch. Over lunch, we chatted more and I ask her if she want to go to hotel. She ask me go hotel do what playfully, and I just smile. She told me to pay the bill and I know this time happening liao. She then led me out of the eatery by hand. I proceed with the hotel 81 along CC and book a room over night. Yes, overnight!

TBC

almond666

13-03-2014, 12:51 AM

After getting into the room, we took turns to take shower as it was a hot day. I showered 1st and as I was waiting for her to come out, I got very very excited! Sometimes waiting is more exciting than doing! She came out with towel wrapped across her body and I realised how smooth and silky white her legs are. We kissed and I slowly caressed her legs and back for quite a while, then I "unwrapped" her and her boobs are firm and soft - very young and sexy body. I softly licked her nipples and they got very hard, and she was also rubbing my cock with her thighs with her arms around me. I proceed to rub her below and she was WET! WET as in dripping! I cannot tahan and really wanted to fuck her but I wanted to foreplay a bit more so I finger her and her moaning really make me go crazy. More juice flow from her pussy and I cannot take it any more. I put my dick over her face and started gently pumping her mouth. Her suction is just so so but pumping that pretty face is a bonus. Then, I lay her down and do her missionary, her juice even flow to my balls. When I go in and out of her pussy, the juice actually stick from my balls to her ass crack, like pouring whitish hor fun sauce on her pussy. She was making really horny moans now. I then change position and doggy style her, she love it and started becoming more "proactive" with her legs curling up and ass turning slightly down everytime I thrust, it is like she is trying to grip my cock into her pussy. After doggy for a while, I really feeling like cumming already but I didn't want to end so fast so I pull out and lick her pussy. Too much juice and I didn't like it at all... then I had a crazy thought as I see her juices flow down her ass. I thought I could fuck her ass and she would feel painful and would feel shiok like ass rim! I did not warn her and just tried my luck, I put her in doggy position and slide my dick into her ass. To my surprise, she did not resist and make a really strange but horny moan. This is the 1st time I am ass fucking and it was super tight. She seems to be in a bit of pain as I thrust her ass but she seem to be loving it... then she ask to change position after a few thrusts so I thought sian, my 1st ass fuck very unsuccessful. She lay me down and cowgirl me.. her position is a little off when I realised she is riding with her anus! WTF!!! I cum within 1 min of realising that, I wish I had better stamina!

werewolves

13-03-2014, 04:28 PM

Bro WB, I have been enjoying this thread for almost 2 years and would like to thank you for keeping it alive!

I have a question, this pertains to your first bao-yee named XW which you mentioned previously you had been keeping for years. Would her age be a factor in how long you continue to keep her? After so many years there is bound to be some feelings. How easy would it be for you to cut her off once she gets too old, and how would you handle the matter especially if she finds it hard to let go?

I ask this because I am somewhat in the same situation ;)

warbird

15-03-2014, 11:59 AM

I am 32 now..........A young Viet girl, 22 years old, start chatting to me............She then led me out of the eatery by hand. I proceed with the hotel 81 along CC and book a room over night. Yes, overnight!
After getting into the room..............................More juice flow from her pussy and I cannot take it any more. I put my dick over her face and started gently pumping her mouth.............................She lay me down and cowgirl me.. her position is a little off when I realised she is riding with her anus! WTF!!! I cum within 1 min of realising that, I wish I had better stamina!

Dear bro almond666,

Thanks for sharing. I hope you hv used CD.

Cheers!

Bro WB, I have been enjoying this thread for almost 2 years and would like to thank you for keeping it alive!

I have a question, this pertains to your first bao-yee named XW which you mentioned previously you had been keeping for years. Would her age be a factor in how long you continue to keep her? After so many years there is bound to be some feelings. How easy would it be for you to cut her off once she gets too old, and how would you handle the matter especially if she finds it hard to let go?

I ask this because I am somewhat in the same situation ;)

Dear bro werewolves,

Thanks for being an avid reader of this thread. It's time u start sharing ur thoughts n expertise w/ us.

Below is purely my own personal, biased opinions on the question u raised.

Whether to continue any LT RS is up to u n u alone. Don't let anyone else influence ur decision.

But every case is different as it involves two individuals n, in many cases others including children n parents, etc.

If ur partner is no longer sexually attractive to u or the RS is largely platonic, you should walk away. You only live once, don't settle. Many men stay in the RS, for a variety or reasons...n either go to GL, FLs or overseas or hv GFs or keep mistresses...if they r still virile.

Most men my age lose their libido n potency n hv no need to look for other sexual partners. It could be a blessing n reflect what nature is intended for us. Unfortunately or fortunately, I'm too healthy...

In any LT RS, a woman's character n whether she is 旺夫 or not should be taken into account.

As for my first BAO-ee XW or XX, she is still w/ me. She was a 20 yo SYT when we first met in 2008 n now she is a young MILF. She is NOT as pretty now n has put on a few Kg. She is 168 w/o shoes n now weighs abt 53-54. She returned to China last yr due to visa expiration n just came back, putting on 3kg this past winter! She knows that she must reduce to 51 n I know she can do it.

I hv learned a lot from my RS w/ her.

She rebuffed my repeated attempts at BY-ing her initially. Hung up the phone on me several times. But I kept her briefly twice in 2009. After we broke off, she was kept by a wealthy man in his early 30s in 2010. He wanted to marry her!! Became needy n desperate which drove her away. We hv been together for the last 3 yrs.

She is still the best fxxk I hv had. And she is the first gal who told me clearly the differences between clitoral orgasms n PVOs. You see, many gals become hypersensitive after clitoral O. But PVO is deeper, more diffuse n whole body. More satisfying. And it's continuous. Her previous men had only given her brief n weak O.

Will I keep her? Yes, at least for now, n she will not visit China again until next CNY. After that, I want her to go home n get married.

BTW, I hv two LT mistresses: XW n RR.

I hv kept RR for over a yr. She is a 21 yo SYT, taller than XW n has natural D. Interesting, she has rudimentary clit n can't hv clitoral O. Her clit tissues r deep around the vagina, part of the so-called clitorourethrovaginal (CUV) complex. With the right position n a little dirty talk, she can experience continuous PVOs, beginning within 30 secs of penetration! She is my 2nd best fxxk.

I dumped RR late last yr when I thought I had a better replacement. She cried n cried, but I ignored her. The replacement was a SYT who turned out to be a disappointment. She also suffered from depression, so I took RR back earlier this yr.

Additionally, I hv a LT GF (using Bro FA's definition), another young MILF, who is currently the LT mistress of a rich towkay. I hv much more to say abt this special RS. Even though I'm certain only her man n I r fxxking her,I still use CD w/ her.

I hope I hv answered ur question.

Cheers!

Bro WB

werewolves

17-03-2014, 12:07 AM

Bro WB, thanks and appreciate your sharing!

miniboy

17-03-2014, 12:20 AM

warbird

17-03-2014, 11:09 AM

Bro WB, thanks and appreciate your sharing!

Bro werewolves,

You're welcome!

There r many ways to handle the situation of an aging mistress (or even a spouse). Like they say, all roads lead to Rome. I'm merely describing what I may do.

If ur mistress has demonstrated her 100% faithfulness n has brought great pleasure n good fortune for u all these yrs, you may want to give her a big bonus, if u can easily afford it. You're not obligated of course. It's good karma.

Cheers!

Bro WB

TS wb,

you are really capable man
大男人拿得起放得下

i always have problems disconnect from these relationships with PRC
and most of the times it would turn out badly
do you find them too complicated and problematic ?

when u declare to stop BY, and happen to meet them in ktv
or they are waiting for u at your common hang out area
wont it turn out badly sore to see them crying and screaming at you

Hi bro miniboy,

Every man must strive to achieve excellent self mastery...can't remain a boy forever.

One way to terminate the RS is to find fault w/ her. if she has worked when she is not supposed to or if she has been w/ another man.

There was a girl whom I had kept full time for 2 months. When she returned a few months later on a different visa, I told her to go to work n paid her much less. She was not known to do ST n had not done ST.

After a few more months, I wanted to drop her. So I used another HP no n a different name to send text msg to befriend her. Told her I met her some time ago. I then proposed ST, she said no n referred me to mummy L to find a girl for me. Later I suggested BY-ing her, she replied that I couldn't afford her. I said I could but must hv a trial first. She then demanded a new high end Apple computer of abt 3.5K n her rental, just to show my sincerity. I told her OK, but I must make love to her right after that. She said OK. I dropped her the next day haha. I didn't need a PI.

If an ex mistress is crazy enough to scream at u inside a KTV, she will be barred from working there or get arrested by police.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

17-03-2014, 11:19 AM

A senior bro asked me some questions some time ago. Sorry for my belated reply.

His question:

"yo bro ... it is rather unfortunate for me that i haven't had the chance to meet up with you during your last few cheong sessions ...

anyway I just came back from SH @ club infinitude ... sat this gal a couple of times to date ... the last being when i subbed her from my friend ... today was more or less the first time with her for a whole session ...

to cut a long story short ... feeling was good ... made out a little during the SH session ... after everything i sent her home and somehow managed to convince her to go ST with me ... but sad to say she quoted me 1k for ST ... as much as I like her i do not think 1k is something acceptable to be.

think i pissed her off with the rejection ... when she said 1k i told her i think we be friends better.

apparently either she doesn't do ST or she is selective of who she goes ST with cos when I asked my regular mummy, I was told that the gal dun do ST.

haizzz ... am i just a stingy fuck ??? or is this the going rate these days ... no matter how much I like her I'm can't bring myself to pay 1k for ST.

m I being a stingy fuck ???"

Dear bro XXX,

Thank u for ur question. I hope u could join my future outings.

I think ur gal has liking for u. She is very selective of the man she wants to do ST w/.

No, you're not a stingy fxxk. You're being frugal.

Only u can decide if she is worth 1K for ST n if you want furthur RS w/ her.

A follow up FR would be helpful.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

19-03-2014, 11:08 AM

Good morning!

I was every pleased to receive a follow up FR from Bro XXX yesterday.

"thanks bro ... I saw it this afternoon.

anyway thanks for the analysis.

update on my $1000 baby ... been out with her quite a fair bit after that pm i sent you.

If during working times or if we go working places (KTV etc) I tip her SOP ... if we go out during her non working times she doesn't ask for tip and i don't give any.

after 2+ weeks we had an overnight after some drinks @ the reading room one weekend ... her young body is amazingly proportionate ... her pussy is deliciously fresh and tight ... and best of all she is passionate, slutty and she is game for making out the whole damn night

No regrets man ... she is an amazing fuck."

I like to thank Bro XXX for sharing his success story. Don't forget to give her many PVOs if u want her to fall for u haha.

Abt a wk ago, I made the statement that "I don't believe a healthy heterosexual woman can hv lasting love for a man unless he has given her many PVOs." I stand by that.

However, giving a woman many PVOs is the most crucial factor but is insufficient per se for lasting love...two other conditions must be fulfilled.

One, you must hv deep emotional connection w/ her. Second, you must be able to provide financial security for her n her offspring (hopefully yours too).

One caveat. Most women fake their orgasms, especially PVOs. Learn to identify them.

So ask yourself. Hv u fulfilled all three conditions for ur women? If not, don't expect them to love u until old age. Unless they hv no other options...

The strange thing is that most women who hv not enjoyed PVOs may feel frustrated, empty n dissatisfied w/o knowing what is really lacking in their RS. The lack is in their subconscious mind...nothing can take the place of PVOs, not "love," money, expensive jewellery, fame, family, friendship, emotional connection, etc. Absolutely NOTHING ELSE can fulfill them...now u know why I'm obsessed w/ giving my LT women PVOs hahaha.

Some experts may argue that there is a different love when a man n a woman hv been together for more than two yrs, after the intense but brief romantic love period. The so-called commitment love. Yes, this is powerful n vital, but it's NOT a lasting love w/o many PVOs.

I took many decades to realize the truth abt man-woman RS. I wish I knew it when I was 20. It's better late than never haha.

Any comments n criticisms will be appreciated.

Cheers!

Bro WB

deathnitez

19-03-2014, 09:00 PM

This is scary feel i am being stock....i post about korea girl there is a PM about korea girls available.... anyway WB bro I shy i don't share pic but i will put it on my avatar when i break up with her lol.... anyway seems like lots of korean model didn't know how the working environment is like here as to compare to korea....:cool:

Mango1980

20-03-2014, 02:25 AM

Hi Bro WB,

I enjoy your sharing in the thread and I like your style towards the gals. I would really want to join your HH outing in future. Please contact me in future. Thanks a million.

warbird

20-03-2014, 11:18 AM

This is scary feel i am being stock....i post about korea girl there is a PM about korea girls available.............

Hi bro deathnitez,

OK

................I like your style towards the gals. I would really want to join your HH outing in future. .....

Bro Mango1980,

Pls PM ur HP no to me. I still hv occasional outings to KTVs...

Thank u for ur interest.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

I know many bros here r young n don't hv a family. If you're thinking of getting married, think n plan carefully!

The following is a great article on "How to Pick the Right Wife."

IMHO, marriage is a pure business transaction. Period. In many ways, it's more business-like than keeping a mistress. I know many feminists n 'girlie men" will be shocked n call me a male chauvinist, but I'm not. I respect n love beautiful women n want to give them financial support n great pleasure n fun!!

Choose your wife wisely. Choosing a mistress is somewhat similar although the stakes n financial risks r much, much lower as a mistress doesn't hv any legal rights hahaha.

Although it's written by a like-minded Ang Moh from Gotham country, the principles should apply to all marriages in S'pore. Our preferences for women r the same! A 20 yo SYT will make the best mistress or the best wife!!

Here is the article. ENJOY!

How to Pick the Right Wife

You have two options: You will get married or you won’t get married. If you will get married then this article is for you. We will not review whether or not you should get married but we will review how to pick the right wife.
Picking the right wife is of utmost importance. Marriage is a life-long commitment and requires a great deal of forethought. Getting married without a plan and without any forethought is a terrible decision.

Getting married is a business decision. Marriage is a contract between two entities. You’ve got to enter into it with the ruthless mind of a determined businessman for it to work.

You’ve got to pick the right wife like a businessman picks a company to invest in. It shouldn’t be left to chance (“love”) – you’ve got to be pro-active, know what you want and then go after it.

Marriage isn’t about love or connecting with your soul-mate. Those are inventions of TV and movies. Marriage is an exchange of resources. Your wife shall provide A and you will provide B. If you’re wife doesn’t, or won’t, provide her share then she should not have the privilege of marriage with you.

Marriage is a contract and you’ve got to try your hardest to make sure that contract is re-inforced. You cannot make the best decision when you’re emotionally love-sick like a 16 year old school girl. No businessman who wants to stay in business will sign a contract in an emotional state of mind and no man who wants to stay married will sign all of his power away just because he loves her. It takes rational, clear-headed planning and thinking to pick the right wife material.

There are only two reasons a man should ever get married:

1) He wants to start a family.

2) His career or political ambitions demand he has a wife (he is interested in going into politics). We will not talk about this except to say that a political wife is for show and show only. For this article we will assume the reader falls into the first category.

There is absolutely no other reason to ever get married. Love is not a reason to get married. When you get married you sign all your power over to your wife – it must be of some benefit for you to do so. That benefit is to grow old with your family.

The goals of a marriage should be:

1) Minimize the chance of divorce theft and child robbery.

2) Maximize wife’s happiness with her wifely and motherly duties (the complete opposite of everything you will see, read or hear). It’s not about empowerment (or any other buzzword designed to kill the modern family), she should be completely devoted to her family. True happiness for a woman comes from her family, it does not come from her career, or her “independence”, or her sexually liberated point of view.

3) Have a healthy, happy family with well educated, respectful children – non-sissified sons and girlish daughters with strong family values.
Be honest about what you want:

Most men don’t want an “independent, empowered” woman. That’s code for bitchy slut with a chip on her shoulder.
We all want a sweet, nice, joyful, feminine woman who treats her man like a King.

Bullshitters will suck up to the dregs and say the opposite in a futile attempt to get some action. These poor suckers get shit on the most and never understand why. Hear this gentlemen – women love men who go after what they want, who don’t take a woman’s BS seriously, and treat her like a woman, not like a man in drag. Women hate suck-ups as much as they hate stepping in dog poop on the street. To a woman, a male suck-up is less than human.

Divorce:

There is no denying that marriage is a very, very bad deal. When you get married you immediately give your wife all the power over your money and your children. “No-fault” divorce really means “his-fault” divorce. If you wife is to decide she wants a divorce she can have all the benefits of being married and none of the drawbacks.

Divorce is theft from the man. It’s a redistribution of wealth from men to women. She can live off of your paycheck via alimony and child support and she can keep your children and raise them in a single-mother or step-daddy household. She has the complete and full support of Papa Government behind her. In the eyes of the law she can do no wrong and you can do no right. And there is nothing you can do about any of that. That’s why you have to choose the right wife in the first place to eliminate much of that risk.

Steps should be taken to minimize the chances of divorce. You must take extra special precaution to choosing the right wife so you can avoid the possibility of a financially devastating and family ruining divorce.
When to get married:

The best time for a man to get married is after 30 years of age. At that age he has had a long time to live life, earn money, think of what he wants in a wife, and settle down a little bit. The ages of 20-30 are the wild years but after the 30 year mark men will tend to settle down. Most men under 30 years of age aren’t mature enough to make the best decision about who to spend their life with.

Now remember, 30 years old is the starting age to think of marriage. That doesn’t mean you should get married at 30 or by 30. Anytime between 30-45 is a good time to tie the knot. Between the ages of 30-45 is when a mans marriage value is at its highest.

We have spoken about the need for a good woman here. In the following section we will look at how to determine good women from bad women.

The top 12 rules for picking the right wife to maximize a happy life and minimize the chance of divorce…

1) She should be young.
The woman should 30 years of age MAXIMUM. 25 is even better and 20 is the best age.

A womans body does not age well. You want the most amount of years with your wife having a tight, young, firm body. After 30 it goes downhill fast. At around the age of 31 a woman’s beauty really declines fast.
It’s a trade off, she gives you her good years and you put up with her in her bad years. Never take a woman already in her bad years.

Women do not age well. “Cougars”, older women that younger men find irresistable, are an invention of the movies. Single women over the age of 30 have wasted all their pretty years have a lot of random sex and now they want to find a sucker who will take care of them without having to give him any of her good years. Don’t be that sucker.

A young body is especially important for bearing children. Old women cannot have and don’t have healthy children. At 30 years of age a woman is already 15 years past her child-bearing prime.

But I like talking to smart women. 20 year olds are stupid.

Her IQ won’t grow much with age. A dumb 20 year old is a dumb 30 year old. The difference is that the 30 year old dumb woman is a lot more bitter and has a whole lot less to offer.

2) She has to come from an intact family with original mother and father.
No step-mommies and step-daddies. Children from single mommy homes cannot be healthy. A mother simply cannot raise healthy children alone or with step-daddies. You want an emotionally healthy wife. Women who grew up with divorce have too much baggage, use sluttery as a way to get attention from daddy, and will not know how to act in a proper family setting.

3) She cannot believe in divorce or even imagine getting a divorce.
If she mentions the word ‘divorce’, what to do in case of divorce, praises a friend who got a divorce, or says divorce is an option then she is not a keeper. Throw her back in the water and go fishing some more.
To make a marriage work, both the man and wife must think of divorce as no option at all.

4) She must have the natural body type you prefer.
Every woman will gain a few pounds when they settle with a man. It’s unavoidable. What is unacceptable is a woman blowing up to whale proportions. If a woman was once very fat, lost the weight on crash diets and ultra-gym sessions, that weight will ALL come back plus more when she gets married.

If she has to constantly diet and go to the gym she is about to blow up like a balloon when the ring is on her finger and the vows are spoken.
You must pick the natural body type you like. That means she must have the same body type her whole life, never yo-yo’ing up or down in weight.

She should have a pretty face. When her body goes the only thing that will be left is her face and you will have to see it every single day.

(To be continued)

deathnitez

21-03-2014, 07:55 AM

TS wb,

you are really capable man
大男人拿得起放得下

i always have problems disconnect from these relationships with PRC
and most of the times it would turn out badly
do you find them too complicated and problematic ?

when u declare to stop BY, and happen to meet them in ktv
or they are waiting for u at your common hang out area
wont it turn out badly sore to see them crying and screaming at you

Trust me i have my fair share of problems with PRC girls.... cause I just don't really like them.... I remember I was with the girl from prc i mean she expected me to be with her when she give me that princess attitude.... end up she saw me with another girl she went all crazy and crying LOL is funny cause the one i was dating is her friend.... Bah i am never into PRC again bad exp....:cool:

warbird

21-03-2014, 11:10 AM

Here are the remaining 8 rules:

How to Pick the Right Wife

The top 12 rules for picking the right wife to maximize a happy life and minimize the chance of divorce…

5) She must be image conscious.

A woman who gets pig-fat after marriage is a disgrace to herself and her family. She must be aware of her image and keep her body trim for you. Women will always gain a few pounds after marriage, but there is a difference between a few pounds and one hundred pounds. Take a look at all the women in her family, if they are all pig-fat it’s a good idea to walk away as fast as you can. You will have to see your wife daily, you don’t want to be thinking about skinning some bacon off of her back to cook breakfast.

6) She must be family oriented and not career oriented.

This is going to be the mother of your children and the keeper of your house. An Ass-kicker doesn’t need two incomes, he can provide, what he needs is a keeper of home and heart.

Two income households leave the raising of their children to expensive day cares and schools, and then mommy goes to work so they can afford to pay for day care and babysitters.

I don’t want children.

Don’t get married. The only reason to get married is to have a family.

But I want a career woman.

Doesn’t matter, even if she is a career woman when you meet she will not be when she is older. No woman wants to work but it takes some of them a long time to figure that out. They waste all their youth playing/working their career and then realize what a huge mistake they made and leave their jobs to take care of their (quite possibly retarded – that’s what happens when old ladies have babies) child. How many 45 year old married female lawyers or other professionals do you know?

women who work in middle age do so because they have no choice and they whine about it every day of their life. They would give anything to leave their jobs and take care of their family instead.

No woman truly wants to work. Work is a mans world and always will be. A woman’s work should be in the home taking care of the home and children.

7) She must be a “good” girl.

She cannot be a drinker or a smoker or have any tattoos. She cannot have a party girl past, a sordid past, and she cannot have gone out more than a couple times drinking. You cannot turn a whore into a housewife. The more sexual partners she has had the more likely the marriage will end in divorce.

Are you saying all party girls, smokers and drinkers are sluts?

Yes.

The fewer sexual partners your wife has had, the better. The ideal wife should be a virgin. Remember: The more sexual partners she has had the more likely you are to be divorced in about 6 years and lose most of your money, possessions, and your children.

If you think she needs help or that you are helping her and she is changing then you are being foolish and you are being played. It’s going to end badly for you when you get hitched to a woman like this.

Always pick a good girl. That means a virgin (or close), family oriented, pleasant, eager to help, a smiler, and patient.

8) She must have no problem signing a pre-nuptial agreement.

A Pre-nup probably won’t save you much money, if any, in the case of divorce but her signing a pre-nup does one very important thing for you: it shows you she is serious about making the marriage work.

9) She should change herself for you.

When a woman is in love she will change herself to please and conform with you. Her new favorite food will become steak and eggs, she will enjoy watching all six Rocky movies with you, and she will do things to please you she has never done or liked before.

I don’t want a woman who flip-flops!

A woman who doesn’t flip-flop is a woman who does not respect you.
Women are not men and should not be held to the standards of men. A man who changes his views on the whims of a woman is a sissy. A woman who changes her views on the whims of a man is a woman who is in love. She should not be degraded for that because that’s what ‘keepers’ do.

10) She must look up to you and respect you.

Women marry up and men marry down, since the dawn of marriage. If she looks down on you she will leave with your money and your children. You’ve got to be a man that she can look up to, admire, love and respect – always.

11) She should not have any children from a previous affair.

In the animal kingdom when a Lion takes over a pride he kills the cubs of other Lions.

Raising someone else’s child is cuckoldry with your full knowledge and consent. If you raise someone else’s child you will be taking care of another mans seedling and there will always be another man in the picture.

Be selfish and keep your wife and children to yourself. They should be yours and only yours. Don’t settle for another mans leavings and sloppy seconds.
Here is what women with children do: They have unprotected sex with a stud, get knocked up, and look for a sucker to raise the bastard.
or..
She has already been married, had children, and then divorced the father and left.

In each case the woman is unfit for marriage.

12) She should be a smiler.

She should smile when she sees you. Her eyes should light up. She should be excited each time she sees you and reward you with her beautiful smile.
A big, bright shining smile from a pretty girl is worth more than any university degree she has, worth more than any job she has, worth more than any other baloney modern women wrongly believe makes them attractive to men.

You want a happy woman. You don’t want a frowning, nagging, pessimistic bride.

Always pick a smiling, warm, happy-go-lucky woman to share your life with.
Things to remember:

American women have been indoctrinated since birth to believe in and embrace divorce. They have been indoctrinated and instructed to believe that their feminine instincts are wrong and bad. This causes a great deal of confusion in their minds and, to put it plainly, many of them are unfit for marriage and raising a family. Especially avoid women who use psychiatric drugs and especially avoid women who go to therapy. Therapy only makes women more insane and teaches them to blame men more for their problems.

Party girls are for fun, good girls are for marriage.

If a woman cannot or will not cook daily, how will she ever care for children? She can’t. To raise non-fat children you must marry a woman who can and will cook.

As a man your options do not dwindle as you age. Your options only increase with your age and wealth. Conversely, as a woman ages her options plummet. That’s because men age gracefully, like a fine wine, and women age like milk. That’s why you must pick a beautiful young lady. It is highly advisable for a man to wait until he is a little older to get married. 30 years of age is an acceptable starting age for a man to start thinking of marriage.

Never, ever take advice from a woman on how to be attractive to women. Be nice, be yourself, be courteous, buy her gifts only works to put you in the friend zone and rightfully so because it’s pathetic behavior.

You should avoid women who have a lazy, entitled, “me-first” attitude.

Don’t let your wife have complete and utter control of the home decor. You don’t want to live in emasculation-station with throw pillows and doilies and dolls and flowers everywhere.

Men are not women and women are not men. Things that women should do do not apply to men and vice versa. Double standards exist. That’s life.
You are the leader. She is the follower. Lead her.

When she loves and respects you she will enjoy all things about you. She will not demand and nag you into changing. If you smoke a big fat cigar and your clothes smell like an ashtray she will enjoy the smell. She should want to sleep in one of your shirts because it has your smell. That’s the power you should have over your wife for her to be happy and content.

If she’s a nagger before marriage then that is a sign you need to give her her walking papers. Nothing is going to get better with marriage, it will only amplify.

Marriage should be old school traditional for it to work. Pick a non-traditional woman and have some baloney non-traditional marriage and you can expect non-traditional results: Alimony payments, child support payments and seeing your children every other weekend.

Never get married just because. Have a purpose and a reason for the things you do.

Getting married is a dangerous proposition – make sure you know how to swim before you dive in head-first.

Dealing with the one who got away:

There are over 3 billion women in the world. The median age for women the entire world over is 29 years old. There are millions of women who are possible marriage material. “She” isn’t the one or your soul-mate or other baloney. There are millions just like her. And if she was your soul-mate you’d still be together. Let her go and move on. There are plenty more where she came from.

Personal recommendation from BOLD & DETERMINED to find a suitable wife:

Picking a woman from your own country and culture is always the best solution. Unfortunately, there is wholesale, systematic destruction of marriage and family in many 1st world countries, especially America and England, which has narrowed the options tremendously. One may have a broader selection if he were to go abroad to another country country where marriage and family are still valued. But, and this is a big but, think long and hard before you marry a woman of another race and father half-breed children.

Remember, it is best to marry a woman of your culture and race. If that option is unappealing for the reasons described above there is a whole, big, wide world for you to choose from.

(To Be Continued)

warbird

21-03-2014, 11:11 AM

Conclusion:

Growing old alone and with no children to carry on your name seems a worse prospect than following this checklist and picking the best wife you can.

Civilization exists because of the nuclear family. Certainly marriage has been tainted in the last 50 years, to the detriment of all, but if you make smart decisions you can cut down your risk tremendously.

If you are going to get married, do it the smart way.
If you aren’t going to get married go ahead and have a beer.

Good luck and Godspeed.

BTW, I agree 100% with the above 12 golden rules.

Cheers n good luck!

Bro WB

ahpui99

21-03-2014, 01:45 PM

Bro warbird

I am going to save this article and share this with my friends. Thanks u for this

AAconnection

21-03-2014, 04:43 PM

Haha Bro Warbird you getting marry?

Marrying a woman is like doing business or adopting a pet. Culture and race is priority. The breed of the woman is one of the consideration just like adopting a dog or a horse. A horse has the smaller brain in the animal kingdom but can endure hardship and very good instinct and the basic task is for riding. For dog what kind of dog do one want? Guard dog, smart, fun dog, working dog, water dog, loyal dog, beautiful looking dog, etc., etc. Any medical and inherited problem from ancestor also need to be considered. An exchange of medical status and character report will be of good help. In the past this is done by a reliable match maker. The task of a reliable match maker is to dig as many information as possible. Even then some match maker is bribe to give incomplete information. Not many women are going to reveal and share with a man about their predicament. After all woman is also smart.

deathnitez

22-03-2014, 10:52 AM

After weeks of busy and stuff now i can finally take a good break at home. I will talk more about the previous mention korean. She is a lawyer who decided to go into modelling. How i verify if she is a lawyer is by conversation, very good spoken english... good understanding of korean law...why i know don't wanna go too detail into it. But notice dating model upkeep is definately abit higher. They really demand sincerity and abit of money afford.... but as i am the stingy type i have never buy any branded stuff for her other then food and drinks. Dating with model definately have it's perks do. First is she attract a lot of attention...height dressing looks and when she speaks to me in korean... ppl turns their head. Ppl likes to joke with her in the restaurant and talk to her, and she could get seat in a packed restaurant with ease.... the manager gave us a reserved seat....LOL. I guess is the culture in sg?? But she is really humble saying afterall korean are still same as Asian. her humility made me like her more. But i am planning a trip to korea to meet up with her. When I am there i will update more about it. :cool:

warbird

22-03-2014, 11:31 AM

Good evening gentlemen. I have recently read a book, titled " think and grow rich " - Napoleon Hill.

I have found it to be extremely helpful in the daily life. It has also briefly touched down on love, sex and romance.

Below is an paragraph which I would like to quote, and therefore seek the opinions of various brothers here.

" Fortunate is the husband whose wife understands the true relationship between the emotions of love, sex and romance. .....................This statement presupposes, of course, that genuine love once existed between a man and his wife.

The facts are equally applicable to a man who permits his wife's interest in him to die..................................Man has the same desire to please women, the only thing that has changed is the method to please women.

Men who accumulate large fortunes, and attain to great heights of power amd fame, do so, mainly to satisfy their desire to please women.

Take women out of their lives, and great wealth would be useless to most men. It is this inherent desire of man to please woman, which gives woman to make or break a man...................

Most men will not admit that they are easily influenced by the women they prefer................................

THE MAN WHO DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THIS IMPORTANT TRUTH DEPRIVES HIMSELF OF THE POWER WHICH HAS DONE MORE TO HELP MEN ACHIEVE SUCCESS THAN ALL OTHER FORCES COMBINED. "

Trust me i have my fair share of problems with PRC girls.... cause I just don't really like them.... I remember I was with the girl from prc i mean she expected me to be with her when she give me that princess attitude.... end up she saw me with another girl she went all crazy and crying LOL is funny cause the one i was dating is her friend.... Bah i am never into PRC again bad exp....:cool:

Hi bro abugga,

Thank u so much for ur post. I read Napoleon Hill's famous book decades ago. It has not helped me very much.

I totally disagree w/ his views on sex, love, romance n marriage.

A real MAN doesn't need to please women. It's not in his nature, not in his genes. He is dominant n his women are submissive.

It's his DESIRE to bed the LARGEST number of the prettiest n healthiest women who are exclusive n safe for him n for them to bear n nurture his offspring. Only his offspring.

However, he needs to make emotional connection w/ his women, give them material n financial support n make them come long n hard during PVOs.

I know my view is politically incorrect n may offend many people out there, including feminists, girlie men, religious holy men, some politicians, etc. But humans hv survived until today because men n women hv largely adhered to their respective gender roles. Otherwise, the future of humans is gloomy...

But many men get KC-ed or fall in love w/ that one special woman. Big mistake haha.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro warbird

I am going to save this article and share this with my friends. Thanks u for this

Bro,

Read it several times.

[SIZE="3"]Haha Bro Warbird you getting marry?

Marrying a woman is like doing business or adopting a pet. Culture and race is priority. The breed of the woman is one of the consideration ............... Any medical and inherited problem from ancestor also need to be considered. An exchange of medical status and character report will be of good help. In the past this is done by a reliable match maker...........

Bro,

Tks for ur post. I'm not getting married. One of my sons is getting engaged.

Family n genetic history is important.

After weeks of busy and stuff now i can finally take a good break at home. I will talk more about the previous mention korean. She is a lawyer who decided to go into modelling......................meet up with her. When I am there i will update more about it. :cool:

Bro,

Tks for sharing.

Most Korean girls r not appealing to me. Most of them hv had too many surgical procedures. If u take a look at their 'before' pics, you will run away haha.

Leaving my personal opinion aside, what do u think contribute to your apparent 'success' w/ 'chio' Korean women?

Thanks in advance for your insight.

Cheers!

Bro WB

deathnitez

22-03-2014, 12:52 PM

Bro,

Tks for sharing.

Most Korean girls r not appealing to me. Most of them hv had too many surgical procedures. If u take a look at their 'before' pics, you will run away haha.

Leaving my personal opinion aside, what do u think contribute to your apparent 'success' w/ 'chio' Korean women?

Thanks in advance for your insight.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yeah quite true about the plastic side. TBH sometimes i do have fears for girls of different countries. Like thai there is risk of them being a lady boy. PRC potential vicious woman at least from what i see most of the cases of violent divorce etc... korean 21 yr old birthday gifts (plastic) and japan hmm japan i can't think of any too submissive?? hmmm....Taiwan I have not much exp....Hong Kong another Singaporean breed.... oh almost forgot viet the eager beavers?? lol at least the few i have encountered. Guess all have it's risk. :cool:

For me i think is chemistry and sincerity. I notice most of the girls which i manage to ahem i just base on feel. Of course looks usually comes in first then later the next step is feeling. I am not sure the kg is a success tbh WB bro lol.... but i am still a noob learning as i grow. :cool:

DiabloX

22-03-2014, 08:43 PM

Thanks bro Warbird, your words really put things into perspective for me, been debating this issue since i'm nearing 40. Cheers +10

DiabloX

warbird

24-03-2014, 11:22 AM

Yeah quite true about the plastic side..............

For me i think is chemistry and sincerity. I notice most of the girls which i manage to ahem i just base on feel. Of course looks usually comes in first then later the next step is feeling. I am not sure the kg is a success tbh WB bro lol.... but i am still a noob learning as i grow...../QUOTE]

Bro deathnitez,

Tks for sharing.

You must hv the X factor. I would call it sexual confidence n mojo haha.

[QUOTE=abugga;10708546]Hi Bro WB, I have to agree with you. As such I am still a student of the disciples. I am still of young age.

I do very much agree with the points you have made about emotional connection, material and financial support.

I would like to share my most recent experience. I have recently met a young syt of my type, got her number................

She has confided in me what attracted her to me, was at first my voice. A voice that resonates power, sexiness and decisiveness, it has made her fall for me even when she has not seen me before. She is very kinsthetic and auditory, she responds very much to my every touch and voice.

She has a figure that puts many local "models" to shame.............Do take note, I am very young, do not have a penny to my name(yet). But I play my cards accordingly to my strengths and turn my weaknesses to advantages.

Will update again

Bro abugga,

Tks for letting us in on ur secret...

Yes, a man's voice, tonality, inflections n words r very sexual n powerful!

Wonder what is the nationality of ur girl.

Thanks bro Warbird, your words really put things into perspective for me, been debating this issue since i'm nearing 40. Cheers +10

DiabloX

Bro DiabloX.

I'm thrilled that you hv found the 12 golden rules useful.

Just remember this: Marriage is a strictly business or commercial transaction. Leave out the emotions n 'true love.'

Big Boss n many bros may not agree w/ my controversial view that a legal marriage is strictly a commercial transaction. But I stand by it.

You know what I believe a man must do to get 'true lasting love' from any woman hahaha.

Of course, the same 12 golden rules apply equally to selecting a LT mistress. But I'm much less stringent in applying these rules w/ a potential mistress because she poses no financial threat if the RS fails. A mistress has zero legal rights hahaha. Keeping a LT mistress gives me all the advantages but much fewer disadvantages of a legal marriage. I can hv kids w/ my mistress too if n when I want. It's a less risky commercial transaction...and much cheaper too, IMHO. I can terminate a 'contract' w/ any mistress anytime w/ no legal n financial consequences.

Btw, the following is my post on "Famous Samster and his HFJ PRC Story." The famous samster is bro AD.

<<<<<Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman View Post
Good Day people.....

the story has come to and end........ with our good brother ... kana jia lat...
but at least he woke up..

stay tune for........

the ENDING story.

Bro Snowman,

I read this story abt Bro AD a few yrs ago. I hv learned much...

Quote:
Originally Posted by MichaelWinn View Post
although this post is few years ago, it 's wisdom still hold true today

sad to see the guy end up like that all because of a whore.....................

he can only blame himself, what a tragedy!

Bro MichaelWinn,

Very sad story.

However, man-woman RS has been complicated n sometimes tragic for one or both party, since time immemorial...

A man must never lose his head for ANY woman, whoever she is...otherwise he will be in big trouble. Not even for his dear mom or his beloved dream girl...

To be KC-proof, he must hv awesome self mastery. The person who cares the least controls the RS.

In fact, a real MAN must never lose his head even when facing the most stressful n most dangerous situations, even if his life is on the line...

Just my personal opinion.

Cheers!

Bro WB >>>>>