How To Get And Keep Attractive Gals Of Your Type [Archive] - Page 5

warbird

07-04-2010, 02:16 AM

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Please la, YY not my mistress lor. Me cannot afford la. She got strong backer and me nobody lor. I just like all women - the pretty ones.

This is not knowledge, just that I got my little notebook with me as well as my bros there providingme with intel.

Up me? Think got to spread your love around a few bros first... cannot up me all the time la. .....

My esteemed bro LDH,

You n YY were 形影不离, wat a lovely couple!!

Unlike me n KK, if not mistaken as grandpa n granddaughter, at least father n daughter (simply bcos I look somewhat younger than my chronological age).

BTW, I may visit SIN earlier bcos of some personal business (unrelated to KK).

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Yesterday, I received an email from a FEMALE "seduction n sex guru" n I like to share wat she wrote:

"...........................The antidote to any kind of tendency towards
approval-seeking, of course, is to STOP relying on
WOMEN to make you feel good about yourself. They
will sense that you're trying to 'use' them for
something, and they'll resent it.

You, on the other hand, will never be able to
get 'enough' of what you're looking for, meaning
that you'll always be walking around with a big
hole in your emotional guts looking for someone to
plug it for you. Not the most satisfying way to go
through life.

How about this: not trying to 'generalize'
about women, or group them into a gender-based
clump and assigning them all across-the-board
characteristics ('I need to get X from women'),
but instead, looking at them as HUMAN BEINGS ...

... and not only that, but INDIVIDUALS.
Individuals who don't appreciate being used as
tools - and furthermore, who will never be
inclined to give you ANYTHING if you seem as
though you 'need' it from them.

If you tend to be insecure or needy around
women, then take it from me, that's an inherent
part of your personality. It's not going to go
away once you get 'enough' of something, because
you'll never be able to GET enough.

If you want to get that part of yourself taken
care of, you need to look WITHIN YOURSELF and your
own life to do what needs to be done.

Figure out what you're feeling bad or uncertain
about, and then take steps to implement a solution
into your life. Look at that 'bad' feeling as a
MOTIVATION, or a jump-off point, for you to
develop yourself further into a more high-quality
and all-round desirable human being............................................. ...."

Good points to ponder...

I hv been improving myself, every hr, every day, in every way...wat more could I do?

Well, I can never get enuff pussies of my type, not necessarily bcos of any inherent personality defect, at least not now, but bcos of my very strong libido n virility. I'm not apologetic or ashamed of my manly sexuality, even at my advanced age.:D

Have a great day!!

Bro WB

singlad

07-04-2010, 03:27 PM

There r two sides to everything in this universe, the Yin n the Yang. Looking at the same evidence, some people believe in evolution n others believe in creation. Was the Soviet Union the evil empire? Or the US? lokking at the same gal, some men may consider her chio, whereas others may consider her ugly. What do u think of Prince Charles' true love?

Cheers!

Bro WB[/QUOTE]

Hi Bro WB,
Have you see Prince Charles' true love Camilla when she was just 17 years old when they first met? I have seen her photo when she was at her prime and she was just truly beautiful, even more so than Princess Diana was at that age. Perhaps that is the image Prince Charles always have about her. Most of us only know her when she is already past her prime and we could not understand how a prince could fall for such a woman. I think that is also true of our wives. ha ha ha.

Loving_Dickhead

07-04-2010, 08:03 PM

You n YY were 形影不离, wat a lovely couple!!

大哥，不要害我。我没那么大的福分。。。 :p
人家已经有老公了。。。天啊。

warbird

08-04-2010, 01:00 AM

Hi Bro WB,
Have you see Prince Charles' true love Camilla when she was just 17 years old when they first met? I have seen her photo when she was at her prime and she was just truly beautiful, even more so than Princess Diana was at that age. Perhaps that is the image Prince Charles always have about her. Most of us only know her when she is already past her prime and we could not understand how a prince could fall for such a woman. I think that is also true of our wives. ha ha ha.

Hi bro singlad,

You hv brought up a very valid point. Many Ang Mo gals r beautiful at 17-18, but they age so fast! They all seem to suffer from premature ageing!

I believe the union of Prince Charles n Camilla exemplifies very deep emotional attachment n "true love" in a life-long RS. They r soul mates! Perhaps we should all envy them n give them our blessings!

Cheers!

Bro WB

大哥，不要害我。我没那么大的福分。。。 :p
人家已经有老公了。。。天啊。

Hi bro LDH,

You're Da Man!

Hahaha...不要害你? :confused:

Cheers!

Bro WB

renming

08-04-2010, 10:51 AM

you have my blessings bro!

besafe

10-04-2010, 10:50 AM

Just call CD n book her for the nite (she may decline bcos u r a total stranger). Take her to K-Box or Dragonfly...

Bro WB

Hi Bro Warbird,
I tried to book her for the weekends.
I was too late.
She flew off to Hong Kong last nite.
Cheers.:)

warbird

11-04-2010, 01:55 AM

you have my blessings bro!

You hv my blessings too!

Hi Bro Warbird,
I tried to book her for the weekends.
I was too late.
She flew off to Hong Kong last nite.
Cheers.:)

Hi bro besafe,

I'm not surprised as CD had been to HK n Bangkok before. It's likely that a customer or her former BF took her along for the trip.

I know ur curiosity must be piqued. Make an offer she can't refuse on her return, ya?

May I intro my 1st BAO-ee XW to u? She is the same type as CD, tall n slim, slightly older at 22, but fairer w/ more proportionate figure. Most importantly, she has prettier n tighter pussy n is easily orgasmic, hehehe.:D She is from Fujian n has a very seductive voice, just like CD. One other thing, XW has very slim shoulders n long slender arms. She is 168 n weighs 50kg. She will return to PRC for good in Aug.

Cheers!

Bro WB

besafe

11-04-2010, 03:41 PM

[QUOTE=warbird;4761059]You hv my blessings too!

I know ur curiosity must be piqued. Make an offer she can't refuse on her return, ya?

Hahaha.. yes.. I am now quite curious about her. Yes. I try one last time to engaged her company .. but not in a KTV environment.

May I intro my 1st BAO-ee XW to u?

Your this XW is working in which KTV?
I dun mind taking a look at all your ex-BYs.
Thanks.

warbird

12-04-2010, 01:05 AM

Hahaha.. yes.. I am now quite curious about her. Yes. I try one last time to engaged her company .. but not in a KTV environment.

Your this XW is working in which KTV?
I dun mind taking a look at all your ex-BYs.
Thanks.

Hi bro besafe,

CD just logged on her QQ, haha. She must hv her laptop in HK.

Of my ex-BYs, only CD n XW r currently in SIN. XW used to work at TAM n DC, but she is now working in a couple of smaller joints. If u r interested, PM me for her HP.

Pls give me ur honest opinion abt them.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

12-04-2010, 01:46 AM

Just spoke w/ a young fren who came back from CP, China, a few days ago. He was in paradise! There were over 1,000 gals under one roof. All the gals were fresh n aged 18-21 (actually there were many, many younger ones whom I wont mention or touch as I'm a law-abiding citizen). He wants me to go w/ his grp next month! He also thinks that I'm wasting big money BY-ing PRC gals in SIN.

He could be right n I hv to re-evaluate my strategies. But BY-ing a gal is not for sex only. It's definitely a challenge n an adventure to own a SYT's body, heart n soul, especially for a lao chi ko pek. Tough mission though not mission impossible.

I told my young fren I would love to move to CP for good! One of his frens is doing just that, he said.

I hv escalated the mind game on KK. I reciprocated her loving me by saying: I love u too, hehehe. I'll return to SIN in 2 wks. I'll give her COS lasting over 1 hr n use covert hypnosis to complete my mission.;)

The other gal I like a lot, GG, will be coming in early July on a tourist visa as her application for a work permit as a beautician was rejected last month. I can't wait for her arrival as she is very easily orgasm n she screams too.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

marc5

12-04-2010, 08:25 PM

Just spoke w/ a young fren who came back from CP, China, a few days ago. He also thinks that I'm wasting big money BY-ing PRC gals in SIN.

He could be right n I hv to re-evaluate my strategies.

I told my young fren I would love to move to CP for good!
Bro WB

Hi bro WB,

I can't help imagine you move to CP and have three to four SYTs beside you everyday and night :D

Then again, it depends on what you expect and need. Several of my business friends from Singapore, Taiwan and HK have bao-yees (mistesses) based in CP, CA and Shenzhen. They would visit them two to three times a months to be "young" again. I guess the sum you applied here would be sufficient to take care of her lodging, daily expenses and pocket monies. But one concern most bros will have is will she hook up someone else and have other sugay daddies when you are not in town :p

It is obvious that CP and CA are the training grounds for fresh young gals (and virgins) before they move on to bigger cities. I will making a trip there very soon...:)

At the end of the day: 高兴就好！Let's catch up when you are back. Cheers.

warbird

13-04-2010, 02:30 AM

Hi bro WB,

I can't help imagine you move to CP and have three to four SYTs beside you everyday and night

Then again, it depends on what you expect and need. Several of my business friends from Singapore, Taiwan and HK have bao-yees (mistesses) based in CP, CA and Shenzhen. They would visit them two to three times a months to be "young" again. I guess the sum you applied here would be sufficient to take care of her lodging, daily expenses and pocket monies. But one concern most bros will have is will she hook up someone else and have other sugay daddies when you are not in town :p

It is obvious that CP and CA are the training grounds for fresh young gals (and virgins) before they move on to bigger cities. I will making a trip there very soon...:)

At the end of the day: 高兴就好！Let's catch up when you are back. Cheers.

Hi bro Marc5,

I dun really care if my BAO-ees hook up w/ others when I'm not around, as long as I dun do them raw.

But I really could go to CP, SZ or XM n live there 10-11 months a yr indefinitely. In fact, I can live anywhere in the world as my income is derived only from investments n deals.

The other option for me is to go to CP, find couple of gals most desirable to ME, n bring them to SIN on tourist visa for 1-2 months. I guess they must be at least 18 yo. After I find the gals, I'll need a reliable agent to make the necessary arrangements. It could be a win-win-win situation.

BTW, I'm basically like u who enjoys a variety of pussies n who gets bored very quickly w/ just one. All my BYs hv been for 1-4 wks, except w/ KK. Actually, after I started BY-ing KK full-time 3 months ago, I had BAO-ed 2 other gals, my "niece" BB for 1 month n CD for 1 wk, n hv done ST w/ a no of other gals...hahaha.:D

How is the quality n quantity of gals at DC n TAM complex?

Have a great time in CP! Dun forget to post ur FRs here.;)

See u in SIN soon.

Cheers!

Bro WB

uhoo

13-04-2010, 11:29 PM

hi brothers,

trying hard to decode your guys language.. i guess the beautiful city you mention CA is Chang An while CP is Chang Ping right?

correct me if i am wrong.. ;)

warbird

16-04-2010, 01:40 AM

hi brothers,

trying hard to decode your guys language.. i guess the beautiful city you mention CA is Chang An while CP is Chang Ping right?..........

Hi bro uhoo,

You're right abt CP. I dun know CA in China. There is CA, California in Gotham country, hehe.

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I like to give my FR on the power of meditation n hypnosis.

The other day a most esteemed bro called me n the topic of KC came up. If u think abt a gal often, u hv been KC-ed. he said. He was RIGHT. I guess I hv been KC-ed by a no of gals at the same time. I think of KK n GG often n many others, including some gals I hv dumped. Especially Xiao Xue who agreed to be BAO-ed but was sent back to China before consummation of the BY n also couple of gals whom I rejected in Macau, China, etc.

After 3 days of meditation, my KC for KK is reduced to zero n now I associate her w/ negativity as much as w/ positivity. I may still meet up w/ her on my return but may not keep her for much longer. Whether I achieve my mission or not is unimportant. I dun care two hoot whatever happens to her, ya.

For bros who hv been KC-ed by someone deemed undesirable for whatever reason, pls try meditation. Dun know how to do meditation? Just google it n go from there. It's very simple. Just do it.

I hv made slow but steady progress in the game of BY since I 1st stepped inside a KTV in Sep of 08. I'm working hard every hr, every day, in every way...

"It's not where or how you start, it's where and how you finish that counts."

However, let me remind you that the most crucial factor is to be your True Self. You may pursue all the outer goals including money, status, fame n the prettiest pussies, etc, but they are all ephemeral n meaningless, n w/o being ur True Self, you will be very disappointed, empty n unhappy.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

18-04-2010, 02:29 AM

Good morning!

I hv a fren RT, a professional man in his late 30s who is an ardent hunter of SYTs. He likes gals who r 18-19 (n younger ones in PRC?), but he may settle for those who r a bit older, say 20-22, if they look young n fresh. He visits CP n other places in PRC every other month.

Last August, he asked me to try a Cat100 legal gal NN, a SYT. She was quite cute n chio, aged 21, abt 164, w/ slim n proportionate body. I chose the 空中飞人option for $120. It was a satisfying experience. A few days later we were both invited by someone to the VIP rm at CJ. I had my 1st BAO-ee XW (aged 21 then) w/ me n told him how much I was paying her. His comment: As long as u like her, it's worth it if u bonk her 20 times a month.

Later, another fren joined the crowd accompanied by his priced trophy for the nite, a woman in her mid to late 20s from TAM Complex. She would be considered very attractive n sophisticated by many of our common frens. But RT whispered in my left ear, it's really sad man, an old woman like that could never make a living selling her body in China. In fact, she wouldn't be able to get a job as a foot masseuse there. Harsh words indeed! But I realized what I was missing in SIN as I'm also an admirer n hunter of SYTs.

In Feb, RT sent me a text telling me he had found YS, a Cat150 PRC, my type of tall SYT. According to him, she was the ONLY gal worth fxking in GL for a very, very long time. Coincidentally, I had already met YS in a chance encounter a few days earlier. Height 165 n wt 50 kg. Yes, she is 21 n very cute n chio. Natural B to C boobs w/ slim n very proportionate figure w/ perky , round ass. Slender arms n beautiful straight legs. When I met her I was very tired n wasn't looking for a fxk, but one look at her I said YES immediately. BTW, she gave very good services including AR. I hv RTF-ed her. She is Cantonese but speaks excellent Mandarin.

I asked YS abt her income per month in SIN. She said RMB 70 to 80K. Curiously, she had been in GL for 2 months n I couldn't find one FR on her. I then asked her how much to BY her in China. She said RMB 20K, a bit more than what she earned working at KTVs in SZ. She said she would service me every day! Why leave SIN soon? Too much stress, she said. Generally, I dun BY any gal who does ST. My question is: How could I get gals like that BEFORE they enter the fresh trade in China?? BTW, I hv not written any FR on her bcos her business is already good n bcos I still want to RTF, hehehe.

My point is that the overwhelming majority of PRC MMs who come to SIN r over 21. Yeah, look at the legal gals, FLs n KTV gals/singers, etc., mostly over 21. How to find SYTs??

BTW, it's much easier for RT bcos he takes all SYTs, the long n the short, whereas I prefer taller ones w/ a certain type of physique. Besides, he goes to CP n other places regularly. And he spends much less than I do on cheonging.:(

Ths for reading n hv a great day!!

Bro WB

AustinPowers

18-04-2010, 11:45 PM

warbird

19-04-2010, 01:50 AM

Several bros PM-ed me abt the house no of NN n YS. NN left last Sep n I'm afraid YS also left recently.:(

Although I hv read a lot on my favorite topic "How to give women COS or Continuously Orgasmic State," n despite being coached by many mentors, my knowledge in this field is still grossly deficient! My experience is even more pathetic. I'm not better than a toddler. There is so much to read, to learn n to execute the processes on so many pussies! No one single source has all the answers.

A few days ago I came across a section on the mammary glands, written by a sex guru on COS, n I realized why a particular gal did what she did. Introspect, every time I kiss n suck KK's nipple, she would lift the whole breast up toward her face. Her young natural breasts r very large n dun sag at all. So why lift them w/ her hands? Bcos lifting it greatly intensifies her pleasure when I suck her nipple. I didn't know it as I wasn't paying attention to her responses! After she comes n pops, it's very easy for her to come n pop, again n again. Just lightly sucking her nipple would make her scream n scream w/ pleasures. But I usually stop too soon! I was in a hurry to insert my didi! According to this sex guru, NOT PAYING ATTENTION is a cardinal sin!

I'm going to quote his advice on how to approach the breasts in its entirety, w/o editing. His writing style is a bit unconventional...

Thanks For the Mammary’s!
Secrets for Kissing and Exciting Her Breasts
You know I just couldn’t resist the headline! Next to the vagina I do not believe there is another part of a woman’s body that excites men more than her breasts. And from a visibility standpoint the breasts certainly top the list of female landmarks destined to hurl most men drooling and blubbering into the depths of penile thinking.
But alas Mother Nature is no fool is she? She perfectly designed the breasts and the buttocks to actually share similar visual characteristics and tactile contours that drive men utterly insane and she also wired the breasts to give a woman very intense pleasure and arousal responses when properly stimulated. You can think of it as Mother Nature’s way of encouraging and rewarding nurturing, mothering and other “reproductive” behaviors in females.
As an aside, any time you see the words nurturing, pair bonding, connection, or orgasm always think --- oxytocin. It’s one of the magic ingredients underlying all of these many and varied behaviors and feelings and in fact most of the pleasurable social and sexual interactions we engage in cause this substance to be released to one degree or another…savvy?
Let’s find out how to increase the dosage a bit eh?
Okay,
I thought you’d never ask!
A Word about Sex Toys!
Now throughout the course of this manual one thing you will not see me talk much about are sex toys and other types of props, lotions, sex furniture etc. I have my reasons. My belief is that a sexual master should easily and naturally be able to fully and completely rock any woman’s world without having to resort to “toys” or props of any kind first! Now does that mean I am against sex toys and other sexual paraphernalia…? Heck NO!
But simply put, understanding how to use the very natural tools God/Goddess gave you will powerfully increase your skills, abilities and CONFIDENCE when starting to play with the many and varied implements of sexual pleasure freely available in the marketplace.
So for now put all thoughts of nipple clamps and butt plugs out of your mind and lets focus on the tools you were born with that will enable you to give your women pleasures so intense that they go insane with the desire to give you the ride of your life in return… Onward!
Breasts come in all shapes and sizes and believe me that’s a good thing. Some folks believe that women with small breasts are more sensitive to stimulation than women with larger breasts. I have not found this to be true. I have met some very large breasted women that when stimulated properly literally soaked the bed because they “came” so strongly.
Now the interesting thing about breasts (and there are several) is that just like many men are very sensitive and insecure about the size of their penis. Many women have the same insecurities about their breasts. So for the sake of understanding this and realizing that the more attractive a woman feels she is the more sexually responsive she becomes…
All Women’s Breasts Are Beautiful!
Now when folks (mostly men) actually get around to playing and stimulating a woman’s breasts the most they come up with is hanging on for dear life and or twisting her nipples like they are dialing radio Tokyo. Pinching and twisting the nipples has its place but it’s certainly not at the very start of breast play!
The clitoris and nipples have one thing very much in common. Most of the time they are the bull’s eye when it comes to sex play. Guys tend to focus on the nipples more than any other part of her breast just like most guys tend to focus on the clitoris more than any other part of the vagina.
A woman’s breasts are far more than just her nipples and are capable of giving her immense and exquisite sexual pleasures when you go about it in the right way.
By the way always stimulate the breast bi laterally (meaning both of them) when ever possible. Many women often jokingly tell me that when you spend all of your time playing with one breast the other one gets “jealous” I take that as a big hint. I have also literally had women take my mouth off of one breast and place it on the other one… once again… big hint.
When kissing, massaging and otherwise stimulating your partners breasts always start softly and gauge your partner’s responses both verbal and otherwise. Naturally as her level of arousal increases you can begin to give her stronger and harder stimulation. Some women in the throes of arousal and orgasmic climax like their nipples sucked so hard it hurts me to think about it. But try this in the initial stages of foreplay and your likely to get kicked, smacked or receive well placed knee in the “nards” for your efforts.
Always begin your sexual play in a soft, gentle and explorative manner so that you can more easily begin to gauge her responses and modify your touch accordingly. Also, although I am giving you tons of ways to sexually calibrate what is working for your woman. Never be afraid to ask her what is working for her and what isn’t.
Many women will be very forthcoming (no pun intended) about what works for them, others won’t be so upfront for what ever reason. That’s one of the reasons that I developed many of the calibration style techniques I’m teaching you. I had a number of women in my past that just wouldn’t help me help them. It was sort of a sink of swim kind of experience… well… I’m still afloat!

warbird

19-04-2010, 01:54 AM

Always Work From the Periphery to the Center
The entire breast is loaded with very sensitive nerve endings and pleasure receptors; make use of all of them. Kissing, licking and sucking her breasts from the periphery to the nipple helps you stimulate as much of the breast as possible. Builds up her sexual tension and makes her start to anticipate and wonder when you will actually get to her nipples. In fact women react to any stimulus approaching their nipples the same way they approach any stimuli getting closer to their clitoris… with anticipation and excitation!
One of my favorite ways to build up this anticipation and ensuing sexual tension is to actually gently lift her breast toward her face so that the area where the breast actually joins the chest is exposed. Once you do this kiss, lick and suck the curve of her breasts from just below her arm pit to where her breast meets the midline of her body on or around the sternum.
Women love this. It feels really good. You can even do a bit of massage on the actual pectoral muscle which is deep to the breast itself. Avoid touching the nipple itself. As she gets more and more aroused that nipple will get harder and harder…hmm kind of like the clitoris; More on that later.
Once you have licked or otherwise stimulated the curve of her breasts where it meets her chest a few times, you can also suck on that area or even use the CST.15 This area seldom gets a lot of attention and women really enjoy it especially large breasted women. Also gently lifting the breasts up and toward her face stretches the area below and in the curve of her breasts making them more sensitive to stimulation.
One of the things I often do when I have her responding well and want to build up more arousal in her is I will begin to lick her breasts from the periphery of her breast towards her nipples very slowly but never touch the actual nipples.
Visualize the breast like it is a bicycle wheel and the periphery is like the outer edge of the wheel itself. Imagine the nipple being the hub of that wheel. Using your tongue lightly trace the spokes of that wheel from the edge of the breast to the center. As you approach the nipple go slower and slower but never actually touch the breast… tease her… make her wonder when your actually going to lick or suck her nipple… bring your tongue so close that you can almost taste her nipple yourself.
If you’re paying attention and you have been stimulating her right. Every time you get very close to her nipple you will feel her body tense up in anticipation.
Above her breast
This is another really good foreplay technique but you have to be sure not to leave teeth marks or that she is okay with having a few “hickies” on her chest. I have noticed that the area above a woman’s breast is also very sensitive and if you actually use the CST on those areas it is extremely pleasurable, at least it has been for “all” the ladies I have used it on. Your mileage may vary. Now once again you have to be careful any time you use your teeth to stimulate her.
In fact I’m going to give you a very special training exercise that will enable you to develop a much better level of control over your ability to sense your bite pressure and have better control over your nibbling technique… is that fair?
Okay.
For this exercise you’re going to need to go to the store and buy some grapes. Here is what you do.
Take one grape and hold it between your front teeth. Slowly apply pressure to the skin of the grape. Pay attention to the surface tension your exerting on the skin of the grape.
Slowly begin to move your teeth in very tiny micro biting or nibbling motions. Your goal here is to keep “micro-nibbling” without puncturing the skin of the grape.

CST: See Combined Stimulation Technique

Practice moving the grape around with your teeth. Every time you puncture the skin of the grape start over with a new grape. Pretty easy huh?
Now do this…
With another grape in your teeth, once again pay attention to the surface pressure your exerting. Notice that you can actually sense just how much pressure you’re putting on the skin of the grape after a while you will be able to begin to exert pressure in very tiny minute increments and still keep the skin of the grape intact.
Now begin to use more micro biting motions on the skin of the grape but this time begin to accelerate the nibbling motions faster and faster, as fast as you can without breaking the skin of the grape. Keep this up for about 5 to 10 seconds. Relax your jaw… eat the grape. Repeat.
These two exercises will prepare you for a plethora of places where nibbling and micro-biting are extremely powerful methods of sexual stimulation. It will also help prepare you for using your teeth as a means of “paying attention to your partner’s body”
Massaging Her Breasts
I love the feel of a woman’s breast beneath my hands and fingers. When massaging her breasts I often cup the breast from underneath, where the breast actually joins chest and gently pull and stroke her upwards. This stretches and pulls the nerve endings under the breast and feels wonderfully pleasant. I will also gently squeeze the breast as I pull it upward. I always make sure that I am touching her in a way that also feels good to me. I let my own sense of pleasure be my guide for what to do next.
Gently gliding your fingers over and around the curve of her breasts is a great way to arouse and tease her, thus building up her sexual arousal. I usually start from the area just below her arm pit and glide my finger tips around the curve of her breasts toward the midline of her chest. This is actually part of an advance foreplay technique I learned a long time ago that really turns women on. (More on that in later volumes)

And Now…
Nipples!
Okay I’ve given you some of the methods I use to excite a woman using her breasts and how to build up the sexual tension and anticipation. Now its time to turn up the juice even more. Once we have her fully aroused and ready to go and we can sense she is going crazy with anticipation of you sucking her nipples… tease her a little bit more and then…
Place her nipple in your mouth and gently suck on it. I like to cup her breasts in the manner I described earlier as I do this. You will feel her body shudder and her back may arch a bit… that’s a good sign.
I like to hold her nipples between my teeth as I suck on her and run my tongue along her nipple from the place where it joins the rest of the breast to the tip of the nipple itself. I will often pull the nipple forward and upward slightly stretching the nipple as I do so.

warbird

19-04-2010, 01:59 AM

The Secret of Stretching
Remember any time you gently stretch or pull a muscle, tendon or other body tissue you make the nerve endings in it much more sensitive to stimulation. I learned this from my martial arts training and found it translates wonderfully well to the “erotic arts” as well.
Using this technique on her nipple is great training for getting ready to do something similar to her clitoris later on but we will talk more about that in our chapter on Outrageous Oral Sex found in “Forbidden Secrets of Sexual Mastery Volume Two: Rock Her World! Secrets of Endless Orgasms”
You can also lick and suck the nipple in the traditional fashion. Quick Light flicks of your tongue on her nipple work really well too. (By the way learning how to tease and arouse a woman's nipple is great practice for learning how to lick and tease her clitoris)
Next, I will be sharing with you one my favorite but also more advanced techniques for stimulating her nipples. This one drives women crazy and I often use it in conjunction with fingering her clitoris. It works like magic for getting them over or bringing them to the brink of orgasm very quickly however…
Warning!
This Is a Highly Advanced Technique
Use This Technique at Your Own Risk

I Take No Responsibility
For The Use or Misuse of This Technique
This Technique Is Given Here For Information Purposes Only!
The Nipple Nibble
Remember those exercises we did with the grape? Well as you probably may have guessed its time to apply that skill. Remember this is an advanced technique and you can injure your partner if you’re not careful. I have been using this technique for years and it works wonders but you also run the risk of biting your partner on a very sensitive part of her body… You have been warned.
To do the nipple nibble cup your partners breast in your hands from underneath. Gently squeeze her breast so that the nipple is more fully extended. Kiss, lick and suck around the nipple area and the nipple itself. The nipple should be fairly erect by this time. Gently close your lips around the very tip of her nipple and suck the nipple into your mouth.
Hold the very tip of her nipple between your teeth and as lightly and rapidly as you can begin to micro-nibble it using very tiny biting motions with your front teeth. The closer you can actually get to the very tip of her nipple the more powerful this technique seems to be… however anywhere on the nipple will drive her wild if you do it right.
Do this for about five to ten seconds or until your jaw gets tired which ever comes first. Lick and suck the nipple for a few seconds… repeat
As you can see a woman’s breast is far more than just her nipples! If you really want to fully arouse her then you have to arouse and stimulate her entire breast area and finish with the nipples.
Use the nipple nibble with caution. I have accidentally bitten my partners when using this technique and it can put a damper on your fun and set back your erotic progress if you happen to bite her too hard and possibly injure her. So use it with wisdom and precision and at your own risk! Otherwise… enjoy!

Bon Appetite!16

Pun Very Much Intended! Thanks for looking!

Any comments n criticisms on his techniques? Pls share ur experiences!

Ths for reading n hv a great day!!

Bro WB

SmallBro

19-04-2010, 02:40 AM

if u believe that, some people also say stick a finger in the ass and stimulate the clitoris also give the girl immediate orgasm that she nv had before...

warbird

19-04-2010, 02:59 AM

if u believe that, some people also say stick a finger in the ass and stimulate the clitoris also give the girl immediate orgasm that she nv had before...

Hi bro SmallBro,

Could u elaborate on the technique? U mean sticking a lubricated finger in her ass n stimulating her clit w/ ur other finger? It should work bcos stimulating two areas simultaneously amplifies her pleasure. Why not use ur tongue on a 3rd area, like her cunt? And be vocal or talk dirty at the same time?

Whatever u do, remember to make love to her mind, body n emotions...;)

Thank u!

roamersg

19-04-2010, 10:11 AM

However, let me remind you that the most crucial factor is to be your True Self. You may pursue all the outer goals including money, status, fame n the prettiest pussies, etc, but they are all ephemeral n meaningless, n w/o being ur True Self, you will be very disappointed, empty n unhappy.

I have learned alot about the BY game from your esteemed self and the other experienced bros here. But I admit I have been able to execute only a portion of the lessons, correct as they seem, because it's so contrary to my style. As several bros have pointed out, I am too soft, but then when I play the game differently it feels so unnatural that I find it less fun. And given my work schedule my time is by far my biggest constraint, so it's also hard to be as patient as much of the recommendations would imply. So I accept that I am worse at the game than most, where I believe the implications are, roughly in order of impact: i) I spend more than I need to; ii) I get tricked more than I should; iii) I sometimes get more caught in a relationship longer than I should; and iv) I lose out on some girls. i) and ii) is just money, and if I spend more than my budget, I get punished by cheonging less for a period. # iii) is the most dangerous, but for me it just means I have a BY last longer than it should have, not that I get so KC'd that it risks my family. Also I largely try to find FBs rather than BY, though that also means the most choice are often then out of reach

So I continue to read and try to learn from your and other bros' posts, figuring over time my mindset will improve, but taking longer than ideal I guess

Looking forward to hearing how your explorations in China go!

warbird

20-04-2010, 01:42 AM

hi wb

if i'm one-tenth as wealthy as u, i'd be in china now.
dunno why u r still in singapore, tasting the leftovers.

go to the source! and remember to file your FRs here!

go there b4 it's too late. the 1st time i went to china was more than 10 years ago, and over the years, the standard of MM's in china has dropped while the price has risen. the chinese are getting richer - more rich men with money to boa SYTs - so the prettiest MM will be boa-ed and won't be working in KTV or HC.

thank you for sharing your experience here for all of us to learn.

Hi bro AustinPowers,

Ths for ur advice. I dun know whether I'm "richer" than u or not. For all I know u could be much richer...

But it's a moot point bcos how u deploy ur money n ur mindset may be a lot more important. We all must use money wisely. Get maximum results w/ the least amount of money. We need emotional discipline as well.

I also dun like leftovers. I'm making active preparations to spend most of my time in PRC. I want to get hooked up w/ an attractive uni student on a long-term basis. I always search for n look at as many gals as possible n let the law of averages work in my favor, both in SIN, PRC n elswhere.

Cheers!

I have learned alot about the BY game from your esteemed self and the other experienced bros here....As several bros have pointed out, I am too soft, but then when I play the game differently it feels so unnatural that I find it less fun. And given my work schedule my time is by far my biggest constraint.........So I accept that I am worse at the game than most, where I believe the implications are, roughly in order of impact: i) I spend more than I need to; ii) I get tricked more than I should; iii) I sometimes get more caught in a relationship longer than I should; and iv) I lose out on some girls. i) and ii) is just money, and if I spend more than my budget, I get punished by cheonging less for a period. # iii) is the most dangerous, but for me it just means I have a BY last longer than it should have, not that I get so KC'd that it risks my family.........

So I continue to read and try to learn from your and other bros' posts, figuring over time my mindset will improve, but taking longer than ideal I guess.......

Hi bro roamersg,

Ths so much for sharing ur experiences.

I'm really just a toddler in the game of BY n I hv had my fair share of failures, but I'm determined to improve.

The biggest danger in BY-ing is falling in love w/ ur mistress. But on the other hand, if u can afford it, just keep her on a long-term basis. Even hv a couple of kids w/ her. Why not? SIN gahmen will be pleased.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Quite a few bros hv asked for the the house no. of YS, a legal cat150 PRC whom I mentioned in my previous post. A fren went to look for her n was told that she had quit. There r only two possibilities: 1) She is being BAO-ed by someone in SIN. He must be paying SGD15K a month to her (that was her net earning here) n 5K to the OKT, 2) She is being kept by someone for RMB 20K a month somewhere in China, probably SZ.

If she was a newly-arrived student, I would be happy to BY her for SGD20K a month w/o the slightest hesitation. I'll miss her very pretty n very tight pussy. When I first saw her in a transparent miniskirt n G-string, revealing her perky n shapely ass n her long, straight legs, my didi just couldn't say no, even though I was very tired. Her service was very good including wonderful AR! But making a pretty whore like that to fall for u would be a tough challenge, hehehe.

BTW, I think of KK n GG very often n at least 14-15 other gals regularly including YS. How could I get KC-ed by so many gals at the same time?

I'll continue my connect-disconnect strategy w/ all the gals. I'm a MAN n they want me to dominate them, provide for them n give them COS they can never get from any other men. Period.

Due to my busy schedule, I may not be able to post but occasionally for the rest of the month.

Cheers!

Bro WB

besafe

21-04-2010, 12:08 AM

BTW, I think of KK n GG very often n at least 14-15 other gals regularly including YS. How could I get KC-ed by so many gals at the same time?
Bro WB

Wah Lau.. and you said you had no feelings for KK in your earlier post !:eek:
Hahaha... I guess you are only human....:p

Oh.. FYI, I recently got contact of a lady. She is friend to a few singers.
I will email you her number. Check her singer friends out when you are in Singapore and write your experience. I am not into singers and will pass ( no moolahs)

Cheers.

y291252001

21-04-2010, 01:34 AM

bro warbird,

Hope things are good with you. I read with interest the material you just posted by the sex guru on COS. Must work on the whole breast thing and such. Nice tips! And yes, going to buy some grapes:p;)

Sometimes it's nice to give pleasure to the girls while they do so to you, cos it pays to do so! Hee.... Think you know what I mean.

Ok, happy and safe cheonging!

warbird

23-04-2010, 11:37 AM

Wah Lau.. and you said you had no feelings for KK in your earlier post !:eek:
Hahaha... I guess you are only human....:p

Oh.. FYI, I recently got contact of a lady. She is friend to a few singers.
I will email you her number. Check her singer friends out when you are in Singapore and write your experience. I am not into singers and will pass ( no moolahs)

Cheers.

Hi bro besafe,

I got in touch w/ the lady OKT who knows a lot of singers n gals who r coming as singers. But I'm totally unimpressed w/ the photos of 3 of her best gals she sent to my QQ. Much too old n arms/legs too thick. YS is much much better. I actually called OKT of YS n learned that she had quit earlier this month. He said he will hv 5 new gals next wk.

bro warbird,

Hope things are good with you. I read with interest the material you just posted by the sex guru on COS. Must work on the whole breast thing and such. Nice tips! And yes, going to buy some grapes:p;)

Sometimes it's nice to give pleasure to the girls while they do so to you, cos it pays to do so! Hee.... Think you know what I mean.

Ok, happy and safe cheonging!

Hi bro y291252001,

That piece on the breasts is perhaps one of the best I hv read. He gives great details on the other body parts as well!

Cheers!

MoralEpitome

23-04-2010, 03:50 PM

Hi bro besafe,

I got in touch w/ the lady OKT who knows a lot of singers n gals who r coming as singers. But I'm totally unimpressed w/ the photos of 3 of her best gals she sent to my QQ. Much too old n arms/legs too thick. YS is much much better. I actually called OKT of YS n learned that she had quit earlier this month. He said he will hv 5 new gals next wk.

Hi bro y291252001,

That piece on the breasts is perhaps one of the best I hv read. He gives great details on the other body parts as well!

Cheers!

i tired your breasts trick and it works...hahahaah....i used to attack the nipples first but realised it's counter productive....

sidetrack abit...think i am falling in love with a singer...got some real feelings for her...biggiest mistake to make in the BY scene?

aczeta76

23-04-2010, 05:22 PM

besafe

23-04-2010, 09:42 PM

Hi Bro WB,
I think she sent you photos of her rejects.
I believe she do have some gems.
Cheers.

roamersg

23-04-2010, 10:11 PM

sidetrack abit...think i am falling in love with a singer...got some real feelings for her...biggiest mistake to make in the BY scene?

Yes, falling in love is definitely the biggest mistake! Feelings are natural, but falling in love very dangerous, honestly do suggest you see some other girls to try to dampen these feelings. If you are married, I hope you have kept your real ID from her, in case things go downhill. 2nd mistake is she's singer, that can be very expensive, more than most KTV gals because of their monthly quota. But if she likes you and is ok with lesser support, then maybe.:) Good luck!

MoralEpitome

24-04-2010, 02:52 AM

Yes, falling in love is definitely the biggest mistake! Feelings are natural, but falling in love very dangerous, honestly do suggest you see some other girls to try to dampen these feelings. If you are married, I hope you have kept your real ID from her, in case things go downhill. 2nd mistake is she's singer, that can be very expensive, more than most KTV gals because of their monthly quota. But if she likes you and is ok with lesser support, then maybe.:) Good luck!

Yes....i am in real agony...on one hand i feel immensely guilty to my wife...on the other hand...my finances went out of hand because I spend my intended savings on her... and last of all...even though we like each other... she's not the sort who would anyhow sleep around even with bigger than usual amount of money spent on her...although i am certain with the feelings we have for each other if i throw 5k each time for 3 times....i would be able to break into her lovely hole...but 15k i can easily get good quality ones 1000 times....

Tonight is the last time i will hang her on a regular basis... i decided to take a break for a while...before she takes me for granted as a cai tou...

tanterry

24-04-2010, 10:49 AM

Yes....i am in real agony...on one hand i feel immensely guilty to my wife...on the other hand...my finances went out of hand because I spend my intended savings on her... and last of all...even though we like each other... she's not the sort who would anyhow sleep around even with bigger than usual amount of money spent on her...although i am certain with the feelings we have for each other if i throw 5k each time for 3 times....i would be able to break into her lovely hole...but 15k i can easily get good quality ones 1000 times....

Tonight is the last time i will hang her on a regular basis... i decided to take a break for a while...before she takes me for granted as a cai tou...

bro, your agony has something to do with 118?? lol

DO_YOU_BJ

24-04-2010, 11:15 AM

bro, your agony has something to do with 118?? lol

Oh no no, i think you're out by the 1st 2 digits!
He's referring to 888

othniel

24-04-2010, 05:38 PM

Yucks, Zhen Zhen is so not my taste. :D
I would prefer Yue Yue.

Maybe you can try having Yue Yue? Hehehe...

y291252001

24-04-2010, 06:37 PM

Hi bro y291252001,

That piece on the breasts is perhaps one of the best I hv read. He gives great details on the other body parts as well!

Cheers!

Hmm.... tempting... If it's not too much of a trouble, I'd like to know more about the details on other body parts too. Hee.... Perhaps you can email me the link or article. Better still, share with the rest. Maybe, who knows, the girls will realize who are of the same "clan" when they get new erotic zone treatments in the similar fashion?!

Who u thinking of doing it to huh?

haha....

Me still busy as well as busy reading..
Nobody... nobody but YOU!:D

You always busy one loh! Lucky I haven't met you before, scared I fall for your "greatest asset" when I look at you.:p Anyway, you take care and must let me know if you find a new syt ok?! I've still haven't found what I've been looking for....

Loving_Dickhead

24-04-2010, 08:07 PM

Maybe you can try having Yue Yue? Hehehe...

That can be considered... but no. Xuan Xuan is cute! Hahaha.
Better stick with my current singer. :D

MoralEpitome

24-04-2010, 11:55 PM

bro, your agony has something to do with 118?? lol

lol...118...888....it's all the same...once you stop being rationale you gotta stop....especially if u know nothing good will come out of it...it's all about conditioning your mind to deal with it....i am re-reading this book by anthony robbins that i briefly read though when i am young... basically it says our mind link pleasure with such activities this is why we are addicted to this game of playing with prc mms....if we can associated it with pain...eg. divorce...bankrupty...etc....we will stop playing this game....anyway i think i want to remain low key...it seems that too many people knows abt me and her although the only exchange between me and her are sweet nothings...hahaha

tanterry

25-04-2010, 01:08 AM

Oh no no, i think you're out by the 1st 2 digits!
He's referring to 888

178 is going back lol
888 has around 2 months left somemore is hunan so good luck to MoralEpitome:D

tanterry

25-04-2010, 07:07 AM

lol...118...888....it's all the same...once you stop being rationale you gotta stop....especially if u know nothing good will come out of it...it's all about conditioning your mind to deal with it....i am re-reading this book by anthony robbins that i briefly read though when i am young... basically it says our mind link pleasure with such activities this is why we are addicted to this game of playing with prc mms....if we can associated it with pain...eg. divorce...bankrupty...etc....we will stop playing this game....anyway i think i want to remain low key...it seems that too many people knows abt me and her although the only exchange between me and her are sweet nothings...hahaha

I reckon you will be back to see her soon:D 888 is from hunan and my impression of her is she is mentally tough
Good luck to you :)

roamersg

25-04-2010, 10:22 AM

lol...118...888....it's all the same...once you stop being rationale you gotta stop....especially if u know nothing good will come out of it...

Oh, hadn't linked your nick with the CMC thread talk about those singers, wow, pining for one of those singers with $20k hangings is very tough, unless you yourself are a master of KC like some of the esteemed gentlemen in this thread!

I too have recently met a singer that I am also considering what to do. I had previously sworn off singers for several reasons, expense only being one, KTV students fit my schedule better than the very late hours of singers. But once again finding myself tempted:o

dirtbag_26

25-04-2010, 11:11 AM

bro i think give up lah

what this mean is that you cannot afford her

i say this dun mean to suan you

just mean to say this is the reality

even if you not moarried and chase her you think she can be happy with you when other man can give her more ? i think really give up lah

Yes....i am in real agony...on one hand i feel immensely guilty to my wife...on the other hand...my finances went out of hand because I spend my intended savings on her... and last of all...even though we like each other... she's not the sort who would anyhow sleep around even with bigger than usual amount of money spent on her...although i am certain with the feelings we have for each other if i throw 5k each time for 3 times....i would be able to break into her lovely hole...but 15k i can easily get good quality ones 1000 times....

Tonight is the last time i will hang her on a regular basis... i decided to take a break for a while...before she takes me for granted as a cai tou...

AHSPERM

25-04-2010, 11:43 AM

BRo Dirtbag

I fully agreed with you!

They are here to make quick money and we are here to have quick game, I reckon there is no true love.

Bro Moral

Have fun, but not to the extend of falling in love, the true love is still your wife..cheer!

justime

25-04-2010, 01:16 PM

....especially if u know nothing good will come out of it...it's all about conditioning your mind to deal with it....i am re-reading this book by anthony robbins that i briefly read though when i am young... basically it says our mind link pleasure with such activities this is why we are addicted to this game of playing with prc mms....if we can associated it with pain...eg. divorce...bankrupty...etc....we will stop playing this game....anyway i think i want to remain low key...

hi bro moralepitome, I believe concepts you referred to is likely from the book “Awaken the Giant Within” is termed “Neuro-Associative Conditioning” (NAC- that's Anthony Robbins terminology and I believed that he even got the term trademarked). Note however that other NLP practitioners may have other labels for the same concepts.

While NAC as espoused by Robbins is useful, as a person who has been there and done that, let me suggest to you a better read for your particular situation:

Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy Revised and Updated (by David D. Burns)

The strategies as outlined in the above book are posited on cognitive therapy techniques (what this basically means is using the “rational” mind to control emotive impulses). I have read through your other postings and there are indications that ‘rational – logical approach can resonate in your emotion makeup and control.).

Also please pardon my candor but to “invest” 15K simply on the prospect of her sleeping with you (for perhaps only one time) is a poor value proposition. You can get better mileage with the same amount of money – not to mention variety too! One simple way is to cast your net far and do not have preconceived notions on the attributes that constitutes your ideal dream girl.

There are a multiplicity of techniques available to derive better value (a lot of which is already discussed in this thread). You might also ask Bro Warbird - he is a very generous person and I am sure that he is willing to share a lot of the strategies to maximize the mileage of your “courtship” budget. By courtship I mean from the cheongster’s perspective – maximum return (either physical or emotional) or quickest route to pussyland with the minimum financial outlay.

Cheers – perhaps see you at DC real soon ….

warbird

25-04-2010, 03:01 PM

i tired your breasts trick and it works...hahahaah....i used to attack the nipples first but realised it's counter productive....

sidetrack abit...think i am falling in love with a singer...got some real feelings for her...biggiest mistake to make in the BY scene?

I only came across this secret treatise over a wk ago. Knowledge is power! We will need to practice too.

Who u thinking of doing it to huh?

haha....

Me still busy as well as busy reading..

I hv searched bookstores n libraries in Gotham City n the internet for anything related to COS n female ejaculation...

Hi Bro WB,
I think she sent you photos of her rejects.
I believe she do have some gems.
Cheers.

She is unwise bcos she knows wat type of gals I want.

Hmm.... tempting... If it's not too much of a trouble, I'd like to know more about the details on other body parts too. Hee.... Perhaps you can email me the link or article. Better still, share with the rest. Maybe, who knows, the girls will realize who are of the same "clan" when they get new erotic zone treatments in the similar fashion?!

This is not from an e-book.

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Greetings to all samsters!

I returned to SIN 3 days ago. Had fever for a day n still very tired.

I want to report that KK n I ended our 3-month RS. I'm also happy to report that I hv benefited greatly in several ways from my RS w/ this 18 yo (she turned 19 in Feb) PRC student from Chengdu.

Her attitude towards me suddenly turned cold around 2nd of April when I was in Gotham. Two days earlier her cousin (their moms r real sisters), whose voice is almost identical to KK's, called me re an urgent loan to pay for her school fees, otherwise she would hv to go back to PRC n likely KK would hv to follow suit too. I didn't believe her n it would be very difficult for me to transfer money anyway. I told her I would be back by the end of April. She said it would be too late. I actually came back 1 wk earlier to take care of some other urgent affairs..

On my return here, KK informed me that she had to rethink abt our RS. She assured me that she is not being BAO-ed by another man n she has not worked n never want to since our deal was consummated on 13 Jan. She is taking a different "path.":confused:

Later I talked to her cousin n learned that following my refusal to loan her the money, they were quite desperate n contemplated going back to China. They were despondent too. On 5 April they went to hv a drink n KK was very sad n was in tears. A young man of 20, a student from a different school, from the same hometown Chengdu, asked her wat make her so sad, etc. He later loaned money to pay her cousin's school fees. He hooked up w/ KK. My reply, OK.

BTW, her cousin's school fees is 7k for a full yr, n the full amt is payable in the beginning. Some schools demand full yr's payment upfront? Was she lying?

This morning, KK called me bcos she owed me an explanation n we talked for over an hr. We never talked for more than 10 min on the phone before. She told more or less the same events but in much greater details. She was at her most helpless n most vulnerable moment when this 20 yo man from her hometown appeared w/ a big helping hand. I refused to help bcos I never trusted her. I didn't even ask her abt the urgent school fees after i had spoken w/ her cousin. I was callous n unconcerned re their predicament. If I had shown more interest, a little compassion or encouragement or that I might be able to help on my return, She would hv felt much better n wouldn't fall into the arms of her new BF. They want to get married, eventually.:eek: Very slim chance even assuming that they can stay in SIN long enuff to return to PRC. This boy is from a middle class family, not wealthy as his dad is a mid-level manager for a large company in Chengdu. However, his social class is still much higher than that of KK as she is from a very poor family in rural Chengdu.

It was a very difficult decision for her as the boy could only pay a small part of her living expenses. Wat is she to do? She just hv to be very thrifty. Her cousin runs KTVs n could help her a bit too.

She had previously praised my good qualities which I"ll not mention here. Now her criticisms which r poignant n right on the money as several people I hv had an intimate long-term RS hv told me，almost in exactly same words!! Did she call someone very close to me???

1) Very selfish, 2) very suspicious of everything n everyone, like Cao Cao, 3) never really trusted her despite her best effort to gain my trust. Do u trust anyone? Actually, NO. 4) 太精明了，很怕吃一点亏（someone has often said, 太精明了, 精明到自己吃亏！） This gal is quite smart!

Lastly，she reiterated the fact that she really liked me a lot n had loved me. But I always doubted her sincerity n never trusted her. Always testing her which was very disconcerting n frustrating to her. She was getting lots of stress from me. I was also treating our RS like a pure business transaction which was frustrating n degrading to her n that I had a condescending attitude that money could buy everything. She often had to run across town carrying my CDs, etc, to meet me. She also complained that I never listened to her...as our phone conversations never lasted more than 10 min.

She reminded me that she was going to move in w/ me n was hoping to be my mistress until the end of her stay in SIN...

After much introspection, I had to agree w/ most of wat she said.:( Although, IMHO, she is 90% culpable for hooking up w/ someone else in my absence.

Ending our RS has elicited surprising little emotions in me.

But I fear for her future as her RS w/ this young man who is only 1 yr her senior will not last. I'm almost certain of this even if one is to remove her need for money from the equation. When she returns to me, which i believe is very likely, I'll be ready to give her hr-long COS n practice my covert hypnosis which I was still reading abt during my last days w/ her.

From my RS w/Kk, I hv been forced to confront my character weaknesses n I hv become a more mature person as a result. It has been a very sextisfying 2-month for me. The final analysis of the FR is very educational as well. I need to do some soul searching n make the required improvements...wat more could an pek ask for? The total damage? The going rates plus small gifts.

This concludes my narration n brief analysis of case study No.1 (Kk). Updates will be provided when available.

Case study No 2 is likely to be w/ GG. She will be coming asap. I called her 2 days ago n asked her to apply for a work permit n I told her how I would take care of her. She was elated! In her 2 QQ spaces, her new mood has been very upbeat, in one is 开心果 n in the other 下一站幸福. I'm looking forward to having a good RS w/ her. ;)

Your comments n insights will be appreciated.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

25-04-2010, 04:09 PM

Wow....thanks to all the brudders for their insightful advice... whether suan or not.... i think the bottom line is don't fall in love with these prc girls...ultimately their aim is to make as much money in as short a time as possible... this is perfectly reasonable...imagine if you were to uproot yourself in a foreign land to make a living...would survival not be at the top of your mind?...even when she said she loves me....she still ask me how come i never hang her $5000 when I obviously have the money...although I admit I do not have as deep pockets as some of the esteem brudders here...i also do not think that it is a value proposition to spend it on her...unless she willing to give herself totally to me... I also think that this $5000 is better spent on some investments that can give me 10% return compounded over time....as warren buffet told his wife....the new sofa you want to buy can buy you 10 in 10 years time...but everyone has different perception of money....maybe to some $5000 is loose change but for me it's still hard earned money....

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...this is why I toyed with feelings to get a different high....sure i can get some of these chio prc ktv mm outs for sex...just pay them $150 to $300....but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved....but for married men i strongly believe transactional would be much better as there are no feelings involved and it's easy to clean up...and there would be less guilt....this week I would want to revert to normal and go back to normal cheonging in the rooms and stop seeing this person....I would like to see how it pans out....but all i can say is in my 10 years of cheonging I have never met a girl for myself or my frens whom money never becomes an issue... maybe others can share if they have ever met a girl they truly loves them...

MoralEpitome

25-04-2010, 04:20 PM

Oh, hadn't linked your nick with the CMC thread talk about those singers, wow, pining for one of those singers with $20k hangings is very tough, unless you yourself are a master of KC like some of the esteemed gentlemen in this thread!

I too have recently met a singer that I am also considering what to do. I had previously sworn off singers for several reasons, expense only being one, KTV students fit my schedule better than the very late hours of singers. But once again finding myself tempted:o

btw...even the cmi singers in one of the joints got $7k hangings....i simply cannot understand why...i just feel that singers are high maintainence which is why i avoided singers at all costs....anyway this recent one I did not know she was a singer when I first got to know her which is why i got abit hooked on her...it also clashes with my schedule because I tend to go only for HH sessions so that i can get home before 10....now I have been staying out till mn becos of her...abit messed up...i am comtemplating to go back to another joint just for HH sessions where i can be with this other girl whom I quite liked before i got hooked to this singer...she's from heilongjiang and looks like korean....the easiest way to forget one girl is to find another hahaha...actually abit wasted because i know this girl first and with the kind of effort I spent on the singer...would have probably gotten her already....she is also rather pissed off with me after I abandon her for this singer...

the girls i like seldom chu jie easily....i guess i am just more fan jian....those that easily agree i don't want....

tanterry

25-04-2010, 09:13 PM

MoralEpitome

25-04-2010, 09:50 PM

Bro WB, thanks for sharing your insightful experience

I think you are soft-hearted and you forgive people who betray you too easily. I could be wrong lol maybe those people you have forgiven are pretty meimeis

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this....in fact I had a girl whom just came Spore on this student pass and I managed to be the first Singapore man she bonked...who wanted to borrow a few k from me using this reason...of course i also felt bad that i did not help her...and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

bugmenot

26-04-2010, 01:44 AM

tanterry

26-04-2010, 07:21 AM

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this....in fact I had a girl whom just came Spore on this student pass and I managed to be the first Singapore man she bonked...who wanted to borrow a few k from me using this reason...of course i also felt bad that i did not help her...and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

Yup, most schools demand for the school fees upfront. What amazes me is WB’s forgiving heart. He’s been forced to plead guilty in the end, even though he’s her paymaster. I guess we have been forced to change by the circumstances of chionging world. Sometimes I wish I have that forgiving heart

warbird

26-04-2010, 10:06 AM

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Also please pardon my candor but to “invest” 15K simply on the prospect of her sleeping with you (for perhaps only one time) is a poor value proposition.............
There are a multiplicity of techniques available to derive better value (a lot of which is already discussed in this thread). You might also ask Bro Warbird - he is a very generous person and I am sure that he is willing to share a lot of the strategies to maximize the mileage of your “courtship” budget. By courtship I mean from the cheongster’s perspective – maximum return (either physical or emotional) or quickest route to pussyland with the minimum financial outlay.

Cheers – perhaps see you at DC real soon ….

Hi bro justime,

Long time no see! I always enjoy reading ur posts.

BTW, I hv very limited experience w/ singers n can't comment on how to bed one. I'm most interested in SYT students for ST whenever possible or BY-ing if she is my type of gal w/ the right proportions.

I'll be going to KTVs n elsewhere to look for new meat. Pls call me for any outings.

Cheers!

Wow....thanks to all the brudders for their insightful advice... whether suan or not.... i think the bottom line is don't fall in love with these prc girls...ultimately their aim is to make as much money in as short a time as possible.....even when she said she loves me....she still ask me how come i never hang her $5000 when I obviously have the money.................................but everyone has different perception of money....maybe to some $5000 is loose change but for me it's still hard earned money....

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...this is why I toyed with feelings to get a different high....sure i can get some of these chio prc ktv mm outs for sex...just pay them $150 to $300....but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved....................but all i can say is in my 10 years of cheonging I have never met a girl for myself or my frens whom money never becomes an issue... maybe others can share if they have ever met a girl they truly loves them...

Hi bro MoralEpitome,

Ths for ur thoughtful comments!

Bro WB, thanks for sharing your insightful experience

I think you are soft-hearted and you forgive people who betray you too easily. I could be wrong lol maybe those people you have forgiven are pretty meimeis

Hi bro tanterry,

My heart is getting tougher, hehehe. It was a very good learning experience for me as I hv never kept a gal for 2 1/2 months before.

She (Kk) was very faithful to me when I was physically present in SIN. Although she did betray me, she left me not for money but for a better future w/ a 20 yo boy from her hometown. It happened to her at a point in time when she was very helpless n vulnerable. But I know her RS w/ this young BF may not last at all.

My only regret is that I didn't hv a chance to execute my newly-acquired techniques to give her hr-long COS, etc. Even if I did, it might or might hv made a difference in our RS as I wasn't present at the time n would not be back for another 3 1/2 wks (I returned a wk earlier for another reason).

actually it is true that some of these schools would demand for the school fees upfront...if they cannot pay...they would be force to go back china....but then this is a story i had heard many times....and like bro WB I am highly suspicious of this......and now she's gone...but that's life... if u fail to plan you plan to fail

Ths for the info.

First time in my cheonging life.. I got attracted to a PRC Asst MMS who's a SYT.. The other day was only my first meeting with her.. Though my previous visits to this KTV I always look for my usual MMS fren.. Sigh.. I think I kena KC liao..

Be careful bro.

Yup, most schools demand for the school fees upfront. What amazes me is WB’s forgiving heart. He’s been forced to plead guilty in the end, even though he’s her paymaster. I guess we have been forced to change by the circumstances of chionging world. Sometimes I wish I have that forgiving heart

I hv not really pleaded guilty. She has pointed out some of my character flaws n I need to thank her for that.

By hooking up w/ a young student from her hometown she will not be making any money for her stay in SIN. Her only hope is for her BF to marry her. It's not going to happen n she knows it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

26-04-2010, 10:33 AM

First time in my cheonging life.. I got attracted to a PRC Asst MMS who's a SYT.. The other day was only my first meeting with her.. Though my previous visits to this KTV I always look for my usual MMS fren.. Sigh.. I think I kena KC liao..

lol...i understand how you feel....in fact I was talking to my fren yesterday night...and he has been there done that...and he advocates pure transactional sex now... in fact over the weekend I was thinking of her....and today i feel like going to see her but i will try to avoid seeing her for a couple of days until I can get my feelings in order...

once feelings are involved we are treading on dangerous water...

roamersg

26-04-2010, 10:45 PM

the other issue is i had enough of transactional sex...but it's a different feeling when there seem to be some true feelings involved

it also clashes with my schedule because I tend to go only for HH sessions so that i can get home before 10....now I have been staying out till mn becos of her...abit messed up...she's from heilongjiang
the girls i like seldom chu jie easily....i guess i am just more fan jian....those that easily agree i don't want....

Hey bro, we may have a lot in common! I also prefer earlier schedules and go to HH more than SH. And I have the same reasons to pursue BY or other relationships b/c beyond sex with a beautiful young woman, I seek GFE, and with most transactional it's hard to get that. I actually do have a few PRC FBs where get good GFE, but I guess they remain FBs because they just don't make the grade for me to consider them as BYs. I also have a historical preference for dongbei girls (tho maybe your KTV girl just happens to be dongbei), largely because I like tall, slim girls with nice legs and nice bustlines, but also for whatever reason I seem to click with them better. That said, the singer I am tempted by is your usual Sichuan (a lot of singers from there for whatever reason).

In terms of chasing those who don't chujie easily, part of it I guess is desiring what's harder to get. But the other part is when they are highly sought after, they can make alot of money without chujie; instead they insist on being BY'd. I think bro warbird is in the same position, and so to get what he wants he BY's them. There was a recent dongbei KTV girl I would have loved to do ST, but she doesn't dabao, only would consider BY. I passed on her b/c I just didn't trust her enough, which also led to us not clicking as well

Net, if you think you can control yourself in terms of not falling in love but becoming fond of, then go ahead. But if love is a risk, then I say stick to transactional. My recent BY I split up with precisely because my feelings were starting to become too strong, so I decided it was safer to end it then, though I admit some heartache on both sides.

roamersg

26-04-2010, 10:53 PM

Two days earlier her cousin (their moms r real sisters), whose voice is almost identical to KK's, called me re an urgent loan to pay for her school fees, otherwise she would hv to go back to PRC n likely KK would hv to follow suit too. I didn't believe her n it would be very difficult for me to transfer money anyway.

Your comments n insights will be appreciated.

other bros have said i'm way too much a softie and I know it's true, but I would done exactly as you did. From the BY rate range you noted, she should not have fallen into that situation. So I would have struggled to believe her. And if she was simply profligate, I would have been annoyed too as they come here to make money, so they really ought to save much of our BY funds

On the other hand, you doing what I would have done is not a good sign, as I am more likely the victim of KC than the master of it! Good luck with the new one, her enthusiasm is great!

timmz

26-04-2010, 10:58 PM

sigh.. i have a friend who is also finding difficulty in stopping to meet Fls. and breaking off a r/s more than that of a pure ONS kind... i m sure many bros have similar experience here..

no good way though..

MoralEpitome

27-04-2010, 12:39 AM

Hey bro, we may have a lot in common! I also prefer earlier schedules and go to HH more than SH. And I have the same reasons to pursue BY or other relationships b/c beyond sex with a beautiful young woman, I seek GFE, and with most transactional it's hard to get that. I actually do have a few PRC FBs where get good GFE, but I guess they remain FBs because they just don't make the grade for me to consider them as BYs. I also have a historical preference for dongbei girls (tho maybe your KTV girl just happens to be dongbei), largely because I like tall, slim girls with nice legs and nice bustlines, but also for whatever reason I seem to click with them better. That said, the singer I am tempted by is your usual Sichuan (a lot of singers from there for whatever reason).

In terms of chasing those who don't chujie easily, part of it I guess is desiring what's harder to get. But the other part is when they are highly sought after, they can make alot of money without chujie; instead they insist on being BY'd. I think bro warbird is in the same position, and so to get what he wants he BY's them. There was a recent dongbei KTV girl I would have loved to do ST, but she doesn't dabao, only would consider BY. I passed on her b/c I just didn't trust her enough, which also led to us not clicking as well

Net, if you think you can control yourself in terms of not falling in love but becoming fond of, then go ahead. But if love is a risk, then I say stick to transactional. My recent BY I split up with precisely because my feelings were starting to become too strong, so I decided it was safer to end it then, though I admit some heartache on both sides.

lol...today i din go and see the singer...i feel so stupid now....even if i give her 4k a mth is not good enough for her....i think that it is just wishful thinking on my part...maybe she has feelings for me and i have feelings for her....but end of the day there is not free fuck...i dun believe that it is possible to make any ger fall for you if you don't give her what she wants.....i think her expectations is abt 10k a mth which i would not give....maybe some of the more esteemed brudders here can afford....i went another ktv today and saw this ger my fren is BYing without giving her a fixed sum...looks wise can rival the singer...personality wise quite bubbly...good stuff...i think this type will be more worth it....so i decided to drop the singer or occasionally just give a small token sum as i have been doing on a regular basis.... yes i also prefer dongbei or sichuan gers....had bad experiences with fujian girls...think it's the way they are brought up... but my leads are all dried up after spending 1 and a half mth wasting my time with the singer...will have to slowly find new leads...hahahah.... and i would like to hear from all esteem brudders how to avoid developing feelings for the BYs...i am too soft hearted too...

tanterry

27-04-2010, 07:02 AM

I hv not really pleaded guilty. She has pointed out some of my character flaws n I need to thank her for that.

By hooking up w/ a young student from her hometown she will not be making any money for her stay in SIN. Her only hope is for her BF to marry her. It's not going to happen n she knows it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro, I won’t describe it as a character flaw. I guess it’s of human nature that you have to be business-minded with her. But gals are always gals and they like a bit of kc. So take it as a lesson that you need to practise fine points of KC skill on your next BY lol.

warbird

27-04-2010, 11:54 AM

Good morning!

I'm most gratified to see that this humble thread has been very active w/ so many esteemed bros sharing their insights n experiences.

Ths again!! Keep ur posts coming.

Cheers!

Bro WB

other bros have said i'm way too much a softie and I know it's true, but I would done exactly as you did. From the BY rate range you noted, she should not have fallen into that situation. So I would have struggled to believe her. And if she was simply profligate, I would have been annoyed too as they come here to make money, so they really ought to save much of our BY funds

On the other hand, you doing what I would have done is not a good sign, as I am more likely the victim of KC than the master of it! Good luck with the new one, her enthusiasm is great!

Hi bro roamersg,

My heart is getting harder n harder.

I believe KK sent most of her money home thinking that I would always come to her rescue even if I was in Gotham City. Reason? I was being too NICE to her. She n her cousin were shocked that I refused or couldn't help.

Through meditation my KC for KK is now close to zero. Next!

Bro, I won’t describe it as a character flaw. I guess it’s of human nature that you have to be business-minded with her. But gals are always gals and they like a bit of kc. So take it as a lesson that you need to practise fine points of KC skill on your next BY lol.

Hi bro tanterry,

To survive in a dog-eat-dog environment prevailing in Gotham City, I hv to be tough, selfish n even ruthless at times.

One area I must improve is in communication. I must spend more time listening to these gals. It's amazing wat we men hv to do just to get some pussies.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Last nite I was in DC SH w/ a few movers n shakers of the much vaunted HFJ. I wish I had a fraction of the moolah these esteemed bros hv.

I called CD to sit w/ me. She sang my favourite American songs. Her conversational English is now even better. Her vocabulary is still very limited though. I BS her abt my time constraints, etc. I then massaged her ears, neck n back n certain areas of her waist ( I just learned this 2 wks ago). I was sure she was aroused n her cunt wet wet, hehehe.

I whispered to her that I would like to meet her but would compensate her each time, instead of BY-ing her, so that it would be more EQUITABLE for both parties. She asked, what do u mean by EQUITABLE? I told her, 公平，公正。She nodded her head n said, just call me. The damage has not been discussed. By the way, I did BY her for a wk before.

Yesterday I called GG re getting a singer visa for 6 months, the type she doesn't need to work. According to my agent, she could come in a wk. She said perhaps a work permit n her fren's agent might be the way to go. She was a bit hesitant n seemed to prefer her fren's agent.

Does she not want to come to be my mistress (pun intended)? I had a very long talk w/ her this AM n found out her worries n hesitancy. She confessed that she had lied to me re her visa status last Sep when I first met her. She was on student visa n had been here since July but told me she was on a visitor pass. I had her for only 2 wks before she went back. She was worried that her little lie might affect our future RS or I might ditch her. I told her I had forgiven her, hehehe.

I want her to come bcos, firstly, she is MY type of pussy n, secondly, she is very easily orgasmic w/ loud screams...I want to find out if she could scream for an hr!!:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

27-04-2010, 09:08 PM

tanterry

27-04-2010, 10:17 PM

MoralEpitome

27-04-2010, 10:31 PM

Seems that fewer quality ones! Saw an old flame who I met her in ktv more than 2 year ago. Saw her in a neighbourhood shopping mall that brought back fond memory of her. Gave her a call and was surprised to hear that she’s already in 3rd year of study here! No choice but to eat back old grass lol

u have indeed been ard alot of places from your posts...lol...lots of hidden tigers crouching dragons here...hahahaha....i meant hidden dragons.....yeah thinking of finding my ex old flame to fill the void in my heart now....especially now my cheong buddy has by a girl...

warbird

29-04-2010, 10:42 AM

2nd day hunting....sad that i can't find any girl close to the standard of the singer i liked...actually i think we can learn from bro WB...keep it simple now....just buy her time instead of permanment BY....fair and square...

Seems that fewer quality ones! Saw an old flame who I met her in ktv more than 2 year ago. Saw her in a neighbourhood shopping mall that brought back fond memory of her. Gave her a call and was surprised to hear that she’s already in 3rd year of study here! No choice but to eat back old grass lol

u have indeed been ard alot of places from your posts...lol...lots of hidden tigers crouching dragons here...hahahaha....i meant hidden dragons.....yeah thinking of finding my ex old flame to fill the void in my heart now....especially now my cheong buddy has by a girl...

Hi bros MoralEpitome n tanterry,

I also lament the fact that the quality of PRC MMs has been declining. My 1st ever visit to a KTV was 1 1/2 yrs ago, when my frens took me to a small joint in Jalan Besar. The gals I met that day seem to be better (at least to me) than the gals I recently met in such vaunted joints as TAM n DC. Very sad really.

Many bros n some frens hv more or less given up the local scene n now focusing on going to PRC regularly, usually to CP or CA.

IMHO, the 2 main reasons why the quality of gals has declined greatly r:

1) Our gahmen has conducted AV raids relentlessly, in GL, KTVs n hotels, which hv scared many MMs away. At the same time, it's getting more difficult to get various visas for PRCs.

2) The no of rich PRC men is increasing rapidly n they get to BY the best PRC MMs, leaving slim pickings for the rest of us.

My solution? Go to source n try to steal a few good ones, hehehe.;)

My ideal gals must be, first n foremost, my type of SYTs who r also uni students in PRC. I'll meet them in China, negotiate a deal, n arrange for them to come to SIN or even to Gotham City. It would be great If I could BY one such gal every 2-3 months.:D

The other solution is more drastic: Actually moving to China n spending most of my time there.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Rolec

29-04-2010, 11:01 PM

Moving to China may turn out to be a superior solution. ;)

MoralEpitome

30-04-2010, 12:29 AM

Hi bros MoralEpitome n tanterry,

I also lament the fact that the quality of PRC MMs has been declining. My 1st ever visit to a KTV was 1 1/2 yrs ago, when my frens took me to a small joint in Jalan Besar. The gals I met that day seem to be better (at least to me) than the gals I recently met in such vaunted joints as TAM n DC. Very sad really.

Many bros n some frens hv more or less given up the local scene n now focusing on going to PRC regularly, usually to CP or CA.

IMHO, the 2 main reasons why the quality of gals has declined greatly r:

1) Our gahmen has conducted AV raids relentlessly, in GL, KTVs n hotels, which hv scared many MMs away. At the same time, it's getting more difficult to get various visas for PRCs.

2) The no of rich PRC men is increasing rapidly n they get to BY the best PRC MMs, leaving slim pickings for the rest of us.

My solution? Go to source n try to steal a few good ones, hehehe.;)

My ideal gals must be, first n foremost, my type of SYTs who r also uni students in PRC. I'll meet them in China, negotiate a deal, n arrange for them to come to SIN or even to Gotham City. It would be great If I could BY one such gal every 2-3 months.:D

The other solution is more drastic: Actually moving to China n spending most of my time there.

Cheers!

Bro WB

You are right....the quality of the girls have been dropping... i can't find any girl that can rival the singer that i so love...even looks wise I can find...their character really simply cannot make it especially the fujian ones... i have a fren who frequent CP and they are fresh, very fresh, 16 to 21 years old...but i prefer someone nearer my age that i can communicate with..18 years old i feel that i have to entertain her....that's why i am so into my singer because somehow we can really relate to each other...anyway i am an idiot and told her how much i really like her and how tormented I am by my feelings for her....i told her to reject me outright so i can forget about her but of course she refused...it seems that she has rejected several big offers before although I cannot verify it...i believe it is true because I have been visting her frequently and don't see any extra curricular actions.... in my many years of cheonging I have never ever fall of any of these mm before...i wonder what made her so special... is it because she's not attainable by other men...the forbidden fruit always taste sweeter? or what... i believe with time i can slowly forget her but i know that i have made a serious mistake by liking her so much...the only smart thing i did is not spend the 10k, 20k like the other men only to be rejected by her...i wonder how should i proceed from here...

DO_YOU_BJ

30-04-2010, 07:03 AM

i wonder how should i proceed from here...

Time for you to migrate to the Matters Of the Heart Section liao
The force is strong over there

MoralEpitome

30-04-2010, 09:44 AM

Time for you to migrate to the Matters Of the Heart Section liao
The force is strong over there

LOL...I think i am just too bored...don't play with money...play with feelings...like in the other thread... are you sick of transactional sex?....also maybe sex and love life with OC is getting boring....I am also interested to konw if the esteem brudders here are single or how they get around their OCs when they do their BY shits...it would be good sharing

warbird

30-04-2010, 12:39 PM

You are right....the quality of the girls have been dropping... i can't find any girl that can rival the singer that i so love...even looks wise I can find...their character really simply cannot make it especially the fujian ones... i have a fren who frequent CP and they are fresh, very fresh, 16 to 21 years old...but i prefer someone nearer my age that i can communicate with..18 years old i feel that i have to entertain her....that's why i am so into my singer because somehow we can really relate to each other...anyway i am an idiot and told her how much i really like her and how tormented I am by my feelings for her............................................... ...............in my many years of cheonging I have never ever fall of any of these mm before...i wonder what made her so special... is it because she's not attainable by other men...the forbidden fruit always taste sweeter? or what... i believe with time i can slowly forget her but i know that i have made a serious mistake by liking her so much..........................................

Time for you to migrate to the Matters Of the Heart Section liao
The force is strong over there

LOL...I think i am just too bored...don't play with money...play with feelings...like in the other thread... are you sick of transactional sex?....also maybe sex and love life with OC is getting boring....I am also interested to konw if the esteem brudders here are single or how they get around their OCs when they do their BY shits...it would be good sharing

Hi Bro MoralEpitome,

You hv been KC-ed big time leh. You should heed the advice of bro DO_YOU_BJ n post ur questions in Matters Of the Heart Section.

Recently, I did hv some KC for a gal (KK) after spending 2 1/2 months w/ her. Fortunately, the breakup has caused very little emotional pain for me. I believe meditation n self hypnosis hv helped. I hv zero feelings for her at this time.:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

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I like to share one interesting mental technique for emotional bonding, according to the October Man Method, which I read a few days ago.

"...So back to regression. At our core there are no walls and no defenses. If we’ve bonded with another person like infants do normally then we know what it’s like to feel connected at a deep level. In fact, in this state of connection there is no sense of self...

There is only the sense of connectedness. Ego gives way to something deeper and more meaningful.

I’m going to term this the Bonding period.

Some would say that the experience of love itself is motivated by the instinct to bond again at a deep level.

So how do we choose who to bond with?

Read this carefully and reread this next statement.

We bond with the person that causes us to regress back to the bonding period - to that earlier state in our lives when we had no sense of self, no walls, no defenses - just connectedness.

So how do you use this information?

One of the most effective ways is first to presuppose that the other person is a child. Talk to them in a caring way as if they were a child. Have fun with them and be just act like kids together. Nurture them and when they open up and tell you about their hopes and fears, reward them by nurturing them both emotionally any physically.

Also give them a self image to live up to.

Have them tell you about their childhood.

Your goal is to know the child within them..."

I'm putting it into practice. Yesterday, GG told me that, after having long conversations w/ me or 谈心，she feels just like a little sister n I'm the big caring brother, hehehe. Yes, I need to know n understand the 6 yo little gal within her...;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

tanterry

30-04-2010, 08:38 PM

but i prefer someone nearer my age that i can communicate with..18 years old i feel that i have to entertain her....that's why i am so into my singer because somehow we can really relate to each other...anyway i am an idiot and told her how much i really like her and how tormented I am by my feelings for her....i told her to reject me outright so i can forget about her but of course she refused...it seems that she has rejected several big offers before although I cannot verify it...i believe it is true because I have been visting her frequently and don't see any extra curricular actions.... in my many years of cheonging I have never ever fall of any of these mm before...i wonder what made her so special... is it because she's not attainable by other men...the forbidden fruit always taste sweeter? or what... i believe with time i can slowly forget her but i know that i have made a serious mistake by liking her so much...the only smart thing i did is not spend the 10k, 20k like the other men only to be rejected by her...i wonder how should i proceed from here...

wow you still visiting her? 8 weeks to complete mission! count down to 24th june:D

MoralEpitome

30-04-2010, 11:49 PM

wow you still visiting her? 8 weeks to complete mission! count down to 24th june:D

lol....nevermind i will have her china number...and we got other plans...shit I think you know who I am talking about....i better lie low...i don't want to expose my identity....anyway money is not the surefire way to break her down, unfortunately...

MoralEpitome

30-04-2010, 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=warbird;4812334]Hi Bro MoralEpitome,

You hv been KC-ed big time leh. You should heed the advice of bro DO_YOU_BJ n post ur questions in Matters Of the Heart Section.

Yes but I find my heart getting stronger...I think soon I will treat her like all my other k gers which is fuck and forget....I guess we all been foolish once...wish I can be like you be have the freedom you have though

tanterry

01-05-2010, 08:18 AM

lol....nevermind i will have her china number...and we got other plans...shit I think you know who I am talking about....i better lie low...i don't want to expose my identity....anyway money is not the surefire way to break her down, unfortunately...

China number?? There is no ending in sight

post your story. I promise I won't tell her lol

MoralEpitome

01-05-2010, 10:12 AM

China number?? There is no ending in sight

post your story. I promise I won't tell her lol

I guess if you can't win the battle...you have to win the war...this will be my long term project...as there is no guaranteed success....i will be hedging my bets just like what I do for all my other investments...lol...please keep it a secret as you are the only one who seems to know the person involved...

DO_YOU_BJ

01-05-2010, 12:34 PM

I guess if you can't win the battle...you have to win the war...this will be my long term project...as there is no guaranteed success....i will be hedging my bets just like what I do for all my other investments...lol...please keep it a secret as you are the only one who seems to know the person involved...

The day you didnt reply to a sms wif your nick on it was the day your were exposed!

tanterry

02-05-2010, 10:10 AM

I guess if you can't win the battle...you have to win the war...this will be my long term project...as there is no guaranteed success....i will be hedging my bets just like what I do for all my other investments...lol...please keep it a secret as you are the only one who seems to know the person involved...

lol really dunno the person involved as I could have made a wrong guess. I was hedging my bets just like you:p

warbird

02-05-2010, 11:52 AM

Yes but I find my heart getting stronger...I think soon I will treat her like all my other k gers which is fuck and forget....I guess we all been foolish once...wish I can be like you be have the freedom you have though

Good for u!

I hv freedom? Not really. I'm greatly constrained by time n circumstances. It's as if I'm going to battle w/ both hands tied behind my back...I'm gradually freeing myself though.

Cheers!

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Good morning!

When a man gets KC-ed by a gal, he loses his objectivity n rationality. He becomes obsessed w/ her good points n overlooks all her physical n character flaws. He believes the gal is different n a very special one. He may even fall for her...

I hv been a customer of local KTVs for abt 1 1/2 yrs n hv done ST n BY-ed a good no of PRC gals. Although many of these gals had normal jobs back in China n were not WLs before, once they decided to come to SIN for the primarily purpose of making money from men, they hv morphed into WLs. They should be treated as such, w/o exceptions. No doubt many of them will return to China, get married n live a very normal life.

I hv found meditation n self hypnosis to be very effective in erasing my KC for any particular gal. The other useful rules to prevent getting KC-ed r:

1) Focus on many pussies.

2) Never obsess over any ONE pussy, no matter how special u think she is.

Even though the quality n quantity of KTV gals hv declined, by making more visits to increase the odds, I hv been able to find couple of potential BY targets n one ST target in the past wk. I was at DC SH Mon n Tues, but didn't find any new worthwhile targets.

Friday nite, I went to DC HH w/ bros Luida n LKY123. Bro Oceanlee came late n missed us as I changed rm w/o informing him. He joined another group of frens, but he did drop by to say hello.

Bros Luida, LKY123 n I were standing next to the entrance to watch all the gals as they singed in. Bro Luida drew my attention to a tall gal. I booked her immediately while he was still hesitating bcos he had already pre-booked someone else. She was quite pretty n a uni graduate. She was QD, not young at 23, but was fair n tall at 169 n weigh 53. Bony frame not small but shoulders n arms r surprisingly slender. Nice cleavage. Just arrived 2 1/2 wks ago on visitor pass. She wants to return as a student. No ST. I massaged arms, her ears, neck, back, waist n legs...she said my moustache was too long n I promised to shave it off if she became my mistress. We crossed our pinkies...hehehe.

Last nite, I was invited by several new bros to join the fun at CI SH. There were quite a good supply of gals. I picked a very fair Jap-looking gal GC from a southwestern province, age 21, arrived 1 wk ago on visitor pass. She wasn't tall at 163 but had proportionate figure. Also no ST. She allowed me to massage her...she also tacitly agreed to BY.

Since I just returned a little over a wk ago, perhaps I should look at more gals before BY-ing anyone.

I believe that if a gal allows me to massage her, I can put sensual feelings n erotic energy into my hands n fingers while massaging her n arouse her sexually...she would be very wet n could even come given the right circumstances -- this is one of the core techniques of the October Man Method.;)

BTW, before I was abt to leave around midnite, the mummy brought another gal for us to pick. I liked this gal! She was XJ, 20, pretty n sexy w/ big boobs, nice round ass n straight legs...didn't book her, but I did get her ctc. According the the mummy, she could convince her to do ST. Why not?

Ths for reading n hv a great day!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

02-05-2010, 12:13 PM

[QUOTE=warbird;4815982]
Good morning!

When a man gets KC-ed by a gal, he loses his objectivity n rationality. He becomes obsessed w/ her good points n overlooks all her physical n character flaws. He believes the gal is different n a very special one. He may even fall for her...

I hv been a customer of local KTVs for abt 1 1/2 yrs n hv done ST n BY-ed a good no of PRC gals. Although many of these gals had normal jobs back in China n were not WLs before, once they decided to come to SIN for the primarily purpose of making money from men, they hv morphed into WLs. They should be treated as such, w/o exceptions. No doubt many of them will return to China, get married n live a very normal life.

I hv found meditation n self hypnosis to be very effective in erasing my KC for any particular gal. The other useful rules to prevent getting KC-ed r:

1) Focus on many pussies.

2) Never obsess over any ONE pussy, no matter how special u think she is.

Bro WarBird...this is very objective and insightful advice and very much appreciated...over the past few days...i am able to objectivise her and no longer has that kind of obession for her...I think I will be able to turn the tables on her if time permits...meanwhile as you said I will diversify into other pussies. Although I am relatively young at 32...I had been cheonging for many years....albeit only more active in the past 3 years and I had never been KC by any girl before....as you said...I lost my objectivity by thinking that she is special...but there is some kind of honesty between us different from all the other girls i had before....however I know for a fact that she is still here to make money and she works very hard for it...

Never tried hypnosis before but focusing on other things like work, OC and reading does work for me....

warbird

04-05-2010, 11:31 AM

Bro WarBird...this is very objective and insightful advice and very much appreciated...over the past few days...i am able to objectivise her and no longer has that kind of obession for her...I think I will be able to turn the tables on her if time permits...meanwhile as you said I will diversify into other pussies. Although I am relatively young at 32...I had been cheonging for many years....albeit only more active in the past 3 years and I had never been KC by any girl before....as you said...I lost my objectivity by thinking that she is special...but there is some kind of honesty between us different from all the other girls i had before....however I know for a fact that she is still here to make money and she works very hard for it...

Never tried hypnosis before but focusing on other things like work, OC and reading does work for me....

Hi Bro MoralEpitome,

At ur tender age of 32 n u hv been cheonging for many yrs! I'm just a newbie making a great effort to improve my game or shall I say PURPOSE.

I believe everyone could benefit from regular meditation...

Cheers!

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My 2 cents on PURPOSE. Most people r focused n obsessed w/ OUTER PURPOSE, chasing after the mundane stuff such as diplomas, jobs, money, condo, car, sex, love, fame, etc.

“Ultimately, of course, every outer purpose is doomed to "fail" sooner or later, simply because it is subject to the law of impermanence of all things. The sooner you realize that your outer purpose cannot give you lasting fulfillment, the better. When you have seen the limitations of your outer purpose, you give up your unrealistic expectation that it should make you happy, and you make it subservient to your inner purpose."

Therefore，we must take a simple step，though an insurmountable step for most people, to achieve our INNER PURPOSE of being our TRUE SELF. Of course, we can still pursue our OUTER PURPOSE bcos it's just a game that we may continue to play simply because we enjoy it, but we will be totally detached from its outcome.

Ths for reading n hv a great day!

Bro WB

warbird

10-05-2010, 12:35 PM

MoralEpitome

10-05-2010, 12:56 PM

Good afternoon!

I hv not been able to open contents in SBF for abt 4-5 days. I just downloaded a newer version of browser which appeared to hv fixed the problem.

A lot has happened in the last 5-6 days! Worldwide markets hv taken a beating. It's a blessing in disguise bcos we should get greedy when others r fearful, hehehe.

The quality n quantity of gals at most KTVs continue to go downhill, although I hv found a few worthy targets here n there for ST or BY in the last wk.

BTW, my spiritual guru recently advises me that living in the eternal present moment is the ONLY way to live. And, ironically, letting go of what I want is the only way to really get it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Yes I am also having problems with the website....errors here and there....using firefox seems abit better...

I was also wondering how come this thread seems so quiet...it's always insightful to hear your words of wisdom and different perspective in life...

For many years I lived in fear and depression and all I wanted was to earn more money....however there is no point having money if you constantly live in depression and always wanting more...even when I went for illicit activities I also felt stressed at being caught....I was slowly killing myself by putting so much stress on myself...so learn to relax, just enjoy when you can....but do not lose sight of what you want to achieve....do everything in moderation but pursue your dreams with a passion....it's amazing but sometimes with patience you can achieve things that you thought you never can...

Btw where is your spiritual guru from?....not many in Singapore...most are bomohs trying to con you of money... maybe in NY?

warbird

13-05-2010, 11:58 AM

Yes I am also having problems with the website....errors here and there....using firefox seems abit better...

I was also wondering how come this thread seems so quiet...
For many years I lived in fear and depression and all I wanted was to earn more money........I was slowly killing myself by putting so much stress on myself...so learn to relax, just enjoy when you can....

Btw where is your spiritual guru from?....not many in Singapore...most are bomohs trying to con you of money... maybe in NY?

Hi bro,

Ths for ur post. Still having problems opening contents in SBF.

My guru from Gotham country is also a fren n his service is FOC.

Cheers!

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What an auspicious day!

In the last 2 wks, my plate is getting filled up again n several gals hv agreed to be BY-ed. A few unexpected encounters though. One 22 yo PRC gal, who claimed to hv a degree in acting n a minor role in a TV series soon to be released, consented to my BY proposal n yet was still a virgin....and then there is KA.

I had the good fortune of meeting a very beautiful PRC gal named KA, but sadly, her pussy belongs to an old fren, at least for now.

Met an old school mate KR by chance last wk. Although we were close in our younger days, I had seen him only a few times in the last 10 yrs. He often goes to his vacation home in Malaysia. He whispered that we could bring some chicks there. I was a bit surprised but said ya sure, if I'm free.

Several days ago, I called him n requested that he sit by my side when I drove my car which I just bought as I had not driven in SIN for decades. He said, lets meet for lunch first. I met him n standing beside him was a stunning PRC 美女！She is 21 this yr n is easily one of the most beautiful young women I hv seen in my life. She wore a well-tailored n body-hugging 旗袍 which revealed her perfect n sexy curves n long fair limbs. She was poised, confident n classy. I was speechless...she shook my hand n addressed me, X da ge...

We went to lunch n then I drove to town via PIE. KR was very helpful in giving me pointers on driving in SIN. BTW, he met KA in China n got visitor pass for her to come to SIN. She will return to PRC in a month or so. Sensing that I was mesmerized by her, KR whispered that I could bring her back here n keep her in a few months. The damage is quite affordable. But I can't wait a few months for such an exquisite pussy!:(

I know I got KC-ed by KA as I can't stop thinking of her. Luckily, I'm still in firm control w/ daily meditation. I'm going to suggest having a foursome when we go to KR's place in Malaysia. I'll bring my gal. KR will agree for sure. It's up to the gals, hehe.:D

I called my guru in Gotham abt KA. He said, boldly go after what u want, but be completely detached from the outcome. Be very careful w/ KA as she is a WL. Never get attached to ur RS w/ her, otherwise u will lose ur power n control. There r always even better pussies out there, hehehe. He also advised me to meditate twice daily.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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uhoo

14-05-2010, 10:24 PM

hi warbird,

can you tell us more abt living spiritual more.

i found the phase of living now is the only way to live.. to simply put, it is to live life like its the last. correct me if i am wrong.

letting go is to get what you really want? omg.!

markets has taken a beating. stocks and valuations gotten cheaper. euro getting cheaper ( bao East europe gals? :D ) opportunities is everywhere!

uhoo

14-05-2010, 10:33 PM

hi warbird..

when you say you believe if gal let you massage her.. you could put sensal feeling to her. this is called Kino. That's what a love guru says. not me.

Kino is important for 2 things.

1. to gauge her level of interest
2. to escalate into something else..

1. if a gal not interest in u, she wont even let u touch her. even for WL. ( unless you are holding stacks of 1000bill in your hand as u massage her.)

2. massage often can lead into something else... slowly slowly to the "sensual area". you can also let you feel relax and be comfortable around u.

before kino.. its important to know that u have built rapport. how to built tt? i believe warbird cover tt already :) )

most important of all... have fun in the process!!

AustinPowers

15-05-2010, 01:42 AM

<< 2) very suspicious of everything n everyone, like Cao Cao >>

Hi WB

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I notice you seem to admire Cao Cao very much. Actually, I think Liu Bei is more successful, both with women (he had 4 wives) and men. When Cao Cao died, he was betrayed by his most trusted adviser, Sima Qian, who probably killed all his children. By contrast, after Liu Bei died, his prime minister Kong Ming took good care of his son.

In an earlier era, Qin Shi Huang, China's first emperor, was betrayed by his most trusted minister after his death. The minister killed his first son and made the second son, an idiot, emperor. Like Cao Cao, Qin Shi Huang was known as a Ba Jun (tyrant).

And in the Han dynasty, Emperor Han Wu Di (Liu Che) was quite senile before his death. Before his death, his favorite concubine bored him a son, and then framed the crown prince, and got the Emperor to execute the crown prince. Fortunately, Liu Che probably had very good people skills (like his distant descendant Liu Bei) and had a loyal minister who took care of the crown prince's son and later helped him to become emperor.

Liu Bang, the founder of Han dynasty, and Xiang Yu (XiChuBaHaung - tyrant of Western Chu) are a study in contrast between cunning (manipulator of people) and raw bravery/aggression.

What struck me about Chinese history is that the eventual 'victor' was always the cunning one (alpha males who dominate by making others feel good). Tyrants (alpha males who dominate through fear) got betrayed eventually.

ok enough of my nonsense.

AustinPowers

15-05-2010, 02:33 AM

oops mistake - it is sima yi and not sima qian the historian.
sima yi didn't kill cao cao's sons but he did eventually take over cao cao's empire.

uhoo

15-05-2010, 03:41 PM

well said..!

warbird

16-05-2010, 05:42 PM

hi warbird,

can you tell us more abt living spiritual more.

i found the phase of living now is the only way to live..................

letting go is to get what you really want? omg.!
................................................

Hi bro uhoo,

letting go doesn't mean giving up, it merely means u become completely detached from the outcome n results. It'll set u free n u will be very self-assured, very relaxed, very comfortable in ur own skin - gals can pick up ur positive vibes 100 meters away n flock to u...

Also, u must live a successful n fulfilling life n RS w/ females should only be a small part of it. Again, if u become such a MAN, women would come to u...;)

hi warbird..

when you say you believe if gal let you massage her.. you could put sensal feeling to her. this is called Kino. That's what a love guru says. not me.

Kino is important for 2 things.

1. to gauge her level of interest
2. to escalate into something else..
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I agree w/ u, bro. Sensual massage is a prelude to giving a gal COS. She will never forget u, even if she doesn't fall for u.

Cheers!

<< 2) very suspicious of everything n everyone, like Cao Cao >>

Hi WB

Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.

I notice you seem to admire Cao Cao very much. Actually, I think Liu Bei is more successful, both with women (he had 4 wives) and men..............

Bro AustinPowers,

I guess one man's hero is another man's villain.

I hv done my own careful research n I want to reiterate that Cao Cao is a GREAT HERO, IMHO, who was vilified by a fictional book n popular folk culture.

Rashomon Effect??:confused:
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I hv been trying to stop thinking of KA by associating her w/ all the negatives. It's working somewhat. BTW, my idea of foursome was promptly rejected by her n my gal. They were very displeased. However, I'm still confident I could take care of KA in a few months.

I'm hitting on multiple targets simultaneously. I really enjoy getting as many gals of my type as possible to agree to either ST or BY. It's good clean fun, ya? :D

BTW, I'll be too busy to post regularly.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

16-05-2010, 10:36 PM

Hi bro uhoo,

letting go doesn't mean giving up, it merely means u become completely detached from the outcome n results. It'll set u free n u will be very self-assured, very relaxed, very comfortable in ur own skin - gals can pick up ur positive vibes 100 meters away n flock to u...

Also, u must live a successful n fulfilling life n RS w/ females should only be a small part of it. Again, if u become such a MAN, women would come to u...;)

I agree w/ u, bro. Sensual massage is a prelude to giving a gal COS. She will never forget u, even if she doesn't fall for u.

Cheers!

Bro AustinPowers,

I guess one man's hero is another man's villain.

I hv done my own careful research n I want to reiterate that Cao Cao is a GREAT HERO, IMHO, who was vilified by a fictional book n popular folk culture.

Rashomon Effect??:confused:
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I hv been trying to stop thinking of KA by associating her w/ all the negatives. It's working somewhat. BTW, my idea of foursome was promptly rejected by her n my gal. They were very displeased. However, I'm still confident I could take care of KA in a few months.

I'm hitting on multiple targets simultaneously. I really enjoy getting as many gals of my type as possible to agree to either ST or BY. It's good clean fun, ya? :D

BTW, I'll be too busy to post regularly.

Cheers!

Bro WB

LOL I have realigned my focus to making money and like you finding more girls...saw a new one...and will became my attack plan on her...but standard bad now....hard to find one that i like and even harder to get her to totally submit to me!

AustinPowers

16-05-2010, 10:47 PM

you are probably right.
my views are based on the novel san guo yan yi and movies and not the historical san guo zhi.

Hi bro uhoo,

Bro AustinPowers,

I guess one man's hero is another man's villain.

I hv done my own careful research n I want to reiterate that Cao Cao is a GREAT HERO, IMHO, who was vilified by a fictional book n popular folk culture.

Bro WB

warbird

23-05-2010, 02:33 PM

LOL I have realigned my focus to making money and like you finding more girls...saw a new one...and will became my attack plan on her...but standard bad now....hard to find one that i like and even harder to get her to totally submit to me!

you are probably right.
my views are based on the novel san guo yan yi and movies and not the historical san guo zhi.

Ths for ur posts, bros.

Cheers! Keep them coming (pun intended).:D

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Good day to all samsters!

I hv been spending lots of time in my business/investments n in taking care of my gals. Not to mention tat I hv been searching for new meat relentlessly, hehehe.

Since my return to SIN late last month, I hv propositioned 7 KTV gals/students re BY n 6 hv accepted, directly or tacitly, my offer. So far I hv "closed " 2 deals only.

I would refrain from giving too much details abt them. Suffice to say that one 22 yo was very, very tight. But she is the high maintenance type. We had a big argument before she left for China. She will be back soon n I'm not sure if we will continue our RS. Her fren told me tat 她的家境很好？！！ The other is a 23 yo who is also tight n very, very wet n responsive. She is relatively low maintenance n she gives me wonderful fxk. KC？ Wat KC？

I met a gal I like the other day at CI. She is NOT my usual type bcos she is short at 162 n weigh only 45-46kg? She is 19 but looks younger, also very playful n vivacious n full of X-factor. She is quite cute n has proportionate body n slender limbs. She said NO to 出街 but hinted that she wants the right man to take care of her. Someone she likes n has feelings for n who really cares for her, not just to fxk her like a piece of meat. I know I'm that MAN, hehehe. I'm playing hard to get as my plate is full. She has a PRC driving license n she agrees to get an international license so tat she can be my chauffeur...we shall see. I took her to a KTV last nite n one of the bros had booked her a few times before. When she went to the toilet, he told me: She is a cock teaser. She is here to make money but wouldn't spread her legs. Many men hv tried n failed. Dun waste ur time. Really??!! No problem. I dun pay until AFTER I hv consummated the deal.

Separately, I hv a 23yo ex-singer from Guangxi who is coming early next month on a visitor pass. I hope she gets her visa as she is 170, 53kg, exact same ht n wt as CD. But she has fairer skin, more slender arms n has more shapely butt than CD. I told her to bring an evening gown n high heels, similar outfit which made her stunningly attractive to ME when I first saw her at LV. I remember I couldn't sleep tat nite thinking abt her pussy. The trouble, or rather the challenge, was tat is it wascvery difficult for her to hv orgasm. I know bcos I kept her for 2 wks in Jan. I dropped her after I got KK n my "niece" BB. I was also displeased tat, as a singer aka indentured servant, she had to go to work despite my keeping her. But she will be exclusively mine this time. I'm confident I'll give her not mere orgasms, but COS, something she has never experienced before.

At this time, the ONLY gal I hv a little KC for is the Fuzhou gal GG who is working as a beautician in Xiamen. She is coming in July, hopefully.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

23-05-2010, 05:56 PM

Ths for ur posts, bros.

Cheers! Keep them coming (pun intended).:D

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Good day to all samsters!

I hv been spending lots of time in my business/investments n in taking care of my gals. Not to mention tat I hv been searching for new meat relentlessly, hehehe.

Since my return to SIN late last month, I hv propositioned 7 KTV gals/students re BY n 6 hv accepted, directly or tacitly, my offer. So far I hv "closed " 2 deals only.

I would refrain from giving too much details abt them. Suffice to say that one 22 yo was very, very tight. But she is the high maintenance type. We had a big argument before she left for China. She will be back soon n I'm not sure if we will continue our RS. Her fren told me tat 她的家境很好？！！ The other is a 23 yo who is also tight n very, very wet n responsive. She is relatively low maintenance n she gives me wonderful fxk. KC？ Wat KC？

I met a gal I like the other day at CI. She is NOT my usual type bcos she is short at 162 n weigh only 45-46kg? She is 19 but looks younger, also very playful n vivacious n full of X-factor. She is quite cute n has proportionate body n slender limbs. She said NO to 出街 but hinted that she wants the right man to take care of her. Someone she likes n has feelings for n who really cares for her, not just to fxk her like a piece of meat. I know I'm that MAN, hehehe. I'm playing hard to get as my plate is full. She has a PRC driving license n she agrees to get an international license so tat she can be my chauffeur...we shall see. I took her to a KTV last nite n one of the bros had booked her a few times before. When she went to the toilet, he told me: She is a cock teaser. She is here to make money but wouldn't spread her legs. Many men hv tried n failed. Dun waste ur time. Really??!! No problem. I dun pay until AFTER I hv consummated the deal.

Separately, I hv a 23yo ex-singer from Guangxi who is coming early next month on a visitor pass. I hope she gets her visa as she is 170, 53kg, exact same ht n wt as CD. But she has fairer skin, more slender arms n has more shapely butt than CD. I told her to bring an evening gown n high heels, similar outfit which made her stunningly attractive to ME when I first saw her at LV. I remember I couldn't sleep tat nite thinking abt her pussy. The trouble, or rather the challenge, was tat is it wascvery difficult for her to hv orgasm. I know bcos I kept her for 2 wks in Jan. I dropped her after I got KK n my "niece" BB. I was also displeased tat, as a singer aka indentured servant, she had to go to work despite my keeping her. But she will be exclusively mine this time. I'm confident I'll give her not mere orgasms, but COS, something she has never experienced before.

At this time, the ONLY gal I hv a little KC for is the Fuzhou gal GG who is working as a beautician in Xiamen. She is coming in July, hopefully.

Cheers!

Bro WB

LOL proposition 7 girls at the same time??? You are DA MAN Bro Warbird....I not as powerful as you...I am trying to cut off ties with one and proposition another one....that's all the time I have....as I have been bz with work and some investment too....and also looking for the right property to buy for my matrimonial home...recently this thread very quiet....nutti much from the gurus...

warbird

24-05-2010, 04:56 PM

LOL proposition 7 girls at the same time??? You are DA MAN Bro Warbird....I not as powerful as you...I am trying to cut off ties with one and proposition another one....that's all the time I have....as I have been bz with work and some investment too....and also looking for the right property to buy for my matrimonial home...recently this thread very quiet....nutti much from the gurus...

No, not at the same time, but over a 3-wk period.

I guess all the masters r too busy giving COS to their gals, hehehe.:D

I'll start a new thread entitled "Why Sharking For Girls Will Always Leave You Hungry‏."

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

27-05-2010, 11:09 AM

Good morning!

What a fantastic day!!

Global stock equities hv been down abt 15 % from its recent peaks. Good news, ya? We should get a bit greedier when everything is on sale, hehehe. The Shanghai Composite has dropped even more, from 3400 to just under 2600, almost 24%, hahaha. :p

Do that mean PRC pussies r also on sale?? Why not?? I'm going to pay my SH gf 20% less on her return. She is high maintenance type n she can take it or leave it.

I hv mentioned tat I met another 19 yo gal who has previously rebuffed many other suitors (according to a dear SBF bro). She has agreed to my BY proposal. Why? It's all abt money of course, at least initially. But what she doesn't know is that I'm going to release my new found master strategies on her mind n body. I'm confident that she will hv COS that she will never experience for the rest of her life. She just left for PRC last nite n will be back in 3 1/2 wks. She asked me if I could wait for her n wont find another gal to replace her in the interim. Yeah sure, I said. BTW, she is medium maintenance type n quite affordable. She has a China driving license but needs more lessons before she could be my chauffeur. She wants to go shopping n pick my clothes for me?! Could be bad news as she also expects me to buy new clothes for her.

I do hv a 3rd gal who is low maintenance type. She just turned 23 only days ago n in terms of looks n figure, actually better than the other 2. And she is already sexually addicted to me after less than 2 wks. She doesn't want any gifts or extra money, just wants me to fxk her hard n often...she is leaving early next month. Good timing as I hv another gal coming in early next month.

Cheers!

Bro WB

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I'm extremely hungry n thirsty in my relentless pursuit of new n better knowledge on 3 areas: investing, women n Inner Purpose of being my true self.

Knowledge plus lots of experience n learning from past mistakes = Power

I love to fail early n often. NEXT!

I'm NOW very confident that if I had my current knowledge n experience n mindset just a few months ago, KK or any gal for that matter, will never fall for any other man. Period. If a gal spends 1 month w/ me NOW, she will never want to leave me. Not for a million yrs, not for love, family obligations, lots more money, marriage proposal from a tycoon's son or even divine interventions. I hv to dump her instead. Period.

Every man, real man I mean, must hv this minimal level of confidence. This is the prerequisite n ONLY the 1st step...;)

I like to share a vital strategy written by a guru on sexual mastery w/ all samsters:

"In fact, although I do not claim to teach seduction and it is not my attempt to do so now, by the same token… I sleep with a lot of women and so I might just know a thing or two about that subject. Here in my opinion is the single biggest factor in making any system of pick up and seduction work for you.

It’s NOT What You Say

It’s NOT How You Say It

It’s NOT About Your Inner Game

It’s NOT Even About Money, Looks or Any Other Superficial Factor.

The biggest key to making any seduction or pick system work is Your ability to recognize if what your doing is actually having the affect you desire combined with Your ability to interpret the responses your getting and modify what your doing based on those responses.

In Other Words…

PAY ATTENTION!

I have seen this time and time again; guys getting obvious (at least to me) signals from women that she is interested and yet they are totally oblivious to the signals she’s giving because they are so wrapped up in their own heads thinking about what to say or do next that her cues blow right by them.

I have also seen the exact reverse, where again, the guy is so wrapped up in what he is saying or doing that he isn’t seeing that the woman he is doing his pick-up shtick with is simply not responding to it or worse yet… getting pissed off because of it.

So here are some really reliable body cues indicators that will let you know when she’s ready interested or wants to be kissed

As Always…

The Eyes Have It!

Now I know for me personally if one more person quotes “the eyes are the windows of the soul” I’m truly going to vomit. People have been spouting that old chestnut for centuries but few truly understand it. Now I’m going to share with you one of the fastest and most reliable body language cues that you can use to determine right away if a woman is really into you or not.
In fact you can actually use this cue to gauge how well your doing throughout the course of the evening prior to going for the kiss close and what ever may follow.

Ready?

Here it is…

Watch for Pupil Dilation

The Bigger Her Pupils Get or Dilate the More That She’s into You.

Pupil dilation is function of the sympathetic nervous system which controls all the excitatory responses or states of arousal in the body. When she gets excited her pupils will get bigger and bigger so she can see more of you.
The only thing you have to be careful of is that if you’re in a dim environment her pupils will tend to dilate as well, but my experience shows that they will still dilate more even in a dark room if she really wants you then when she doesn’t like you.

Conversely, the less she’s into you the smaller her pupils will become. Now, if it’s a first date and you’re just meeting pay attention to her pupil size when you first meet. This gives you the added benefit of actually having to pay attention to her eyes, which of course means you’re actually going to be looking into her eyes most of the time and that is an attraction generator in and of itself.

So now you have a technique that allows you to calibrate her responsiveness to you, while at the same can actually communicating some alpha male traits from you to her.

Looking her in the eyes is a big seduction technique. Now if throughout the course of the date you notice that her pupils start getting larger even if by small amounts you can then start to have more confidence that you’re doing the right things.

There is one particular young lady that I have been seeing who should be the poster girl for pupil dilation. This beautiful young woman is so into me that when she looks at me her entire iris (the colored portion around the pupil) practically disappears… I mean gone! In fact, I remember the first night I bedded her; after the first hour she just sort of looked up at me with that dreamy pupil dilated look on her face and she said…

“You Don’t Play Fair!”

You know what?

She’s absolutely right! As the late great Captain Kirk once proclaimed…

“I Don’t Like To Lose!”

Neither should you! You see in my world view, when you seduce a woman, your making her a promise. You are saying to her “give yourself to me and I will take you places you have never been and will give you greater more fulfilling experiences than any man you have ever had, the kind of experiences that you will dream of having over and over again.” You see being a Great Lover is an art and I take my art very seriously. So I always stack the deck in my favor… How do I do that?

By Paying Attention!

By the way if you haven’t already noticed “pay attention” will be a recurring theme throughout this book. It’s probably the single most important secret of great sex that I can share with you simply because all of the other techniques I use are either based on or amplified by this super sexual master key… PAY ATTENTION!

Watch Her Lower Lip (to be continued)"

warbird

29-05-2010, 12:05 PM

Good morning!

A guru has written that to be a real MAN, one must be completely fearless of death n be completely fearless of the pain n sufferings leading to death. This is the prerequisite.

He is absolutely right. The most famous samurai Miyamoto Musashi, who was undefeated in over 60 duels, attributed his success n survival to the resolute acceptance of death. He would hv been dead long ago if he had habored the slightest fear or doubts abt his ability to defeat his opponents.

In all human endeavors, we ensure our best chances n greatest probabilities of success n survival if we r completely detached to the outcome.

Most of us think n behave in the context of life n living n therefore death n pain leading to death become fearsome n terrifying. But life is ephemeral n we should think n behave in the context of death which is ineluctable. Every minute of living thus becomes a blessing, a gift, a joy...:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

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(Continued from previous post)

Watch Her Lower Lip

The next body language cue I want you to pay attention to is her lower lip. When a woman wants to kiss you or be kissed by you her lower lip will start to protrude more so than usual. Now once again you need to calibrate this at the beginning of the date and compare it to the end of the date. I’m very well trained in “kinesic interview and interrogation techniques” which is basically the art and science of observing and decoding body language and one of the very first things they teach you is…

Establish a Baseline

Establish a baseline means that in order for you to interpret body language properly you must first have something to compare it to. The beginning of your date or meeting is the absolute best time to establish your baseline so that you can determine when and how her non verbal cues change… what’s the first step to establishing a baseline? You probably already guessed it didn’t you…

PAY ATTENTION!

By the way another side effect of all this paying attention is that the woman really feels that you are interested in her… and you are. In a very real sense you are getting to know her far better than most men ever do or will and you’re doing it very quickly.

Self Touching

When She Strokes Her Neck

Another really great cue that she wants to get physical with you is when she starts caressing and touching her neck. Especially right around the side of the Adams apple, along the sterno-cleido-mastoid muscle and up behind the ear. If she consistently strokes or massages any of those areas as she is talking or looking at you it’s generally a sign that she very interested in getting closer.

When She Touches You!

Pay attention to when she starts touching you! This is a response you often get when you start using a lot of DD's cocky-funny approaches. Your women will like to smack you in that mocking “Oh you brat! I can’t believe you just said that!”…type of way. 9

When she does this it’s a definite sign she is into you. The same thing goes for when a woman consistently shows you her palms or talks with her hands. There is almost always some sort of light touching involved here. With women almost no touch is accidental.

The best way to make use of this cue is to simply do it back to her exactly the same way when you are speaking to her… not at the same time! It’s called gesture hijacking and can utterly super charge the level of rapport and connection between the both of you when you use this properly.

The last couple things I want you to be aware of are head tilts and preening gestures. Now what do I mean by preening gestures? A Preening Gesture is anything she does that is an effort to improve, modify or call attention to her appearance. Often she will touch her hair; her face, perhaps fiddle with her make up, put on lipstick etc… the most reliable one is touching her hair.

Head Tilts

A Million Years of Evolution Can’t Be Wrong!

Now head tilts are very good indicators of subservience both in the wild and in human cultures. You can also use a head tilt yourself to appear less threatening if she seems a bit nervous, use a slight tilt of your head to the right or left, smile, make eye contact and just talk to her. If she is constantly tilting her head and perhaps gazing downward as she does so then she’s probably communicating that she’s willing to follow your lead… in other words… she likes you.

The final concept I want you to get is this. No single trait by itself means anything! Some are really good indicators of attraction interest or arousal; but all of them on their own indicate nothing other than the physical gestures that they are.

However, we do have this concept in kinesics that I’d like you to be familiar with -- the concept of “clusters.” Anytime these traits show up in multiples they become exceedingly reliable indicators of what’s going on inside her mind.

For example…

As you’re paying attention you notice she has very large pupils, she looks at you with her head tilted and her hand is resting lightly on your arm or she accidentally brushes your arm or leg as she’s talking. Analysis – High Probability that she is into you!

Or

She gazes up at you while you’re speaking, her head is tilted and she is lightly stroking the side of her neck and she momentarily lowers her eyes, gazes downward and then back up to look at you. Analysis – High Probability That She Is Into You!

This many traits or cues appearing at one time are called a “cluster” and it’s a pretty sure indicator that she’s attracted and very interested in you.
By the way if she talks a lot… almost babbling, it indicates she’s usually pretty excited or nervous. Factor this in and combine this with the other traits and your more than likely in for a good night.

There are a myriad other courtship type body language cues you can learn but the above cues are the ones I see most when it comes to closing the deal and deciding to go for the first kiss and subsequent seduction… Savvy?
I recommend you pick up some good books on body language and get really good at seeing the cues and identifying clusters… it’s a skill that will pay for itself time and time again not just in the sexual arena but also in your personal and professional life. Well that’s enough about how to tell if she’s interested and turned on by you.

Now its time to delve into the real magic.

warbird

01-06-2010, 11:56 AM

Good morning to all samsters,

Lately, I must be a different man. My 3 gals in the last 1 month r short n getting shorter, having heights of 165, 164 n 162, respectively. The last one is 19yo, ht 162, wt only 45kg. I hv not upped such a tiny gal in many, many yrs!;)

Although some tall gals (170 n taller) hv very tight cunts, I must admit tat, on the average, smaller gals hv smaller n tighter cunts.

I'm no longer obsessed w/ height per se. My new criteria r freshness, youthfulness, attractiveness, evenness (in proportions), sexiness, costliness, submissiveness, gentleness, etc. n , most importantly, tightness, wetness n responsiveness...hahaha.:D Of course, I still prefer those w/ long, slender arms n a Fujian accent.

Couple of my gals hv had problems getting a visa to come here (pun intended). Judging from the quality available in the last 1 month, I must conclude tat our ICA allows uglier gals to enter n rejects prettier ones!:(

Wat to do? Time to move to PRC!

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

01-06-2010, 09:31 PM

chenzong

01-06-2010, 11:00 PM

Wat to do? Time to move to PRC!

Waiting for you!

warbird

03-06-2010, 09:54 AM

Investment, Women and Inner Self....so what do invest in now...i am mainly in cash now after liqudating most of my investment...that's why been spending double what I have been spending usually...yeah my China Fund is down 12%...been telling my girls to send the money I give them back to China to boost domestic comsumption...lol....today I met this guy who has 3mill in his account...and he told me that this is just one of his many accounts and guru tell him to buy stocks two weeks later...hahaha.

Hi bro MoralEpitome,

"Investment, Women and Inner Self."

We hv common interests n hobbies!

The only difference is tat being my true self is all I want n I pursue the rest for fun n recreation, haha.

I apply my value approach to both equities n women. I want value for money...

BTW, I'm looking for a trustworthy n able agent who can get visa for some of my gals. Anyone to recommend?

Cheers!

Waiting for you!

Hi bro chenzong,

I'm still waiting for u to intro a chio primary school teacher, hehehe.

I hv had a bit more w/ experience w/ SH gals lately. They r smart, calculating n practical, but rather upfront...Ningde gals r more cunning.

Will u be back to SIN soon?

Cheers!

Bro WB

chenzong

03-06-2010, 04:42 PM

Hi bro chenzong,

I'm still waiting for u to intro a chio primary school teacher, hehehe.

I hv had a bit more w/ experience w/ SH gals lately. They r smart, calculating n practical, but rather upfront...Ningde gals r more cunning.

Will u be back to SIN soon?

Cheers!

Bro WB

The chio primary school part is difficult for me. :)

Not likely to be back in Singapore until perhaps Christmas.

MoralEpitome

03-06-2010, 10:08 PM

I apply my value approach to both equities n women. I want value for money...

BTW, I'm looking for a trustworthy n able agent who can get visa for some of my gals. Anyone to recommend?

Cheers!

I only got housing agent who help me sell and rent out my properties which I just sold off...and do not know any reliable agent...i asked one of the singers' agent he said he only bring in legit singers for six months....but costs about 3-5K for six months...

Value investing! Yeah you are right....when my frens ask me why i waste money on girls for feelings whereas they prefer to pay 150 per fuck...it's just the value you put on it!

nukebomb

04-06-2010, 10:17 AM

Wanking...O...O..O..oooo

MoralEpitome

04-06-2010, 11:03 AM

Ar ar ar....agrhhh

besafe

04-06-2010, 08:42 PM

Hi Bro Warbird,
Glad to know that you are having fun with many potential chiobus to BY. I eagerly awaits the tintillating accounts of GG and you. My trip to China was very uneventful and not worth mentioning. But... I will be going again soon. This time, I will party !!!!

I am practicing hard the alpha male technique that you mentioned so many times on the thread. I am giving one particular chiobu (who has been aloof and haughty). the hot and cold treatment. It is quite funny to receive an sms from her saying that she was sorry for her poor attitude and hope to see me again. I reply her 2 days later and say " maybe".

A former BY is back in Singapore. 2 nights ago, we met and had dinner. She looks more beautiful than before. I actually had a hard-on sitting next to her and staring at her clevage.

But there was an awkwardness between us. We have not seen each other for 2 years and I really dun know which direction our relationship should take, as I am perfectly happy with the student I am with now.

Since she is here seeking employment, I quietly slipped some money into her purse/bag when she was not looking. She smsed me later and expressed her thanks. When I sent her back, I nearly wanted to grab her and kiss her. But I held back. It was tough as I am actually dying to hold her in my arms and fuck her hard.

But.. I guess I will play the cool guy and let her make the first move.

Well.. just a small contribution from me to your great thread.

Take care and drive slowly.. ok ? Cheers.

MoralEpitome

04-06-2010, 10:24 PM

LOL...you guys are really masters of "Control"

warbird

07-06-2010, 10:49 AM

The chio primary school part is difficult for me. :)

Not likely to be back in Singapore until perhaps Christmas.

Hi bro,

Nothing is too difficut for u!

Ok, I'll c u in SH or SIN.

I only got housing agent who help me sell and rent out my properties which I just sold off...and do not know any reliable agent...i asked one of the singers' agent he said he only bring in legit singers for six months....but costs about 3-5K for six months...

Value investing! Yeah you are right....when my frens ask me why i waste money on girls for feelings whereas they prefer to pay 150 per fuck...it's just the value you put on it!

Hi bro,

Pls PM ur agent's HP to me. 3-5K for 6 months is cheap!

BY-ing a gal costs a lot more than $150 per fxk, unless one can her fxk 2-3 times everyday. But the experience of GFE, companionship, etc is different. I also want more experience giving COS to gals on a consistent basis. It's not that simple as every gal reacts differently...fake orgasms, like fake boobs, r extremely repulsive to me.

There is another thing. Many men, including me in the past, need to own a young woman exclusively for emotional validation n fulfilment...

Cheers!

Hi Bro Warbird,
Glad to know that you are having fun with many potential chiobus to BY. I eagerly awaits the tintillating accounts of GG and you. My trip to China was very uneventful and not worth mentioning. But... I will be going again soon. This time, I will party !!!!

I am practicing hard the alpha male technique that you mentioned so many times on the thread. I am giving one particular chiobu (who has been aloof and haughty). the hot and cold treatment. It is quite funny to receive an sms from her saying that she was sorry for her poor attitude and hope to see me again. I reply her 2 days later and say " maybe".

A former BY is back in Singapore. ....
..............Since she is here seeking employment, I quietly slipped some money into her purse/bag when she was not looking. She smsed me later and expressed her thanks. When I sent her back, I nearly wanted to grab her and kiss her. But I held back. It was tough as I am actually dying to hold her in my arms and fuck her hard.

But.. I guess I will play the cool guy and let her make the first move.

Well.. just a small contribution from me to your great thread.

Take care and drive slowly.. ok ? Cheers.

Hi bro besafe,

Firstly, I like to thank u for ur frequent contributing to this thread.

Secondly, u r more successful w/ chio gals than me in many ways...u r making all the right moves!

It may be counterintuitive n illogical, but the only way to get a very attractive woman is for u to play hard to get. You must connect-disconnect...never treat her differently than any other gals or men for that matter, n NEVER say that u like her or do things to please her, or even worse, say that u love her. It's the kiss of the death as far as her attraction for u is concerned. A grave mistake I hv made until recently. Actions speak louder than words. So just do it. When the circumstances r right, just massage her arms, neck n ears...then kiss her n go from there, ravish her n give her COS, hahaha.:D

BTW, I like both GG n my niece BB, but I'm dun want to keep them for more than 6 months.

Cheers!

LOL...you guys are really masters of "Control"

Hi bro,

There r many masters in this world. Definitely not me. I would be very sad if I'm a master bcos it means I hv no room for improvement. And I may get complacent n regress...

I'm happy to be a diligent student for the rest of my life. I want to keep improving relentlessly n leave no stone unturned in my chosen areas of interest. Life becomes very very exciting...

As for "control," u hv hit the the right button.

I now realize that true dominance is not controlling, manipulative or being tough or using threats n physical force...actually it's not even abt controlling others. No no no, true dominance is all abt self mastery n self control n emotional discipline. I call it Mind Mastery. It's being ur true self. Being completely fearless of death n fearless of hardship n pain n suffering prior to death. Being fearless of all losses, be it money, love, family, power, status, health, pussies, etc. Being fearless of...

Once u become such a MAN, many wonderful n unexpected things will start to happen...:p

I wish I knew this just a few months ago...

Cheers!
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Here r some reflections on my personal, still very limited, experience in delivering COS.

You can certainly give most gals COS using ur fingers n tongue alone, but rocking ur didi in the pussy for an extended periods of say 30 min n longer is still the most crucial. There is a lot more intimacy n psychological bonding...n it gives a more satisfactory experience to both parties. The fit is optimal n natural n the gal may beg u to continue...aaahhhh...好舒服哦...x da ge, 我还要，多捅我..aahhhh...你要捅我几次都可以，越多次越好...我天天要...aaaahhh h...u will hv a serious new problem as she will become so sticky n may not leave u alone.;)

Additionally, how long ur gal wants ur didi in her pussy is a good indication of how much she is into u. I call it the "didi in pussy" or DIP Index. The higher the Index the better n if she has very high DIP Index (for u only), n if she is getting COS REGULARLY from u, she will be addicted to u! No amt of money n no man can take her away from u. You hv to dump her or u hv go into hiding, hahaha. BTW, it's almost impossible to fake a high DIP Index n COS.

Ths for reading n hv a good day!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

07-06-2010, 01:20 PM

besafe

07-06-2010, 10:09 PM

DIP = Didi in Pussy.

Bro WB... you are really funny. I laughed until my tears came out.
That's really funny.
Next it will be Dick In Mouth Index. !!!
Cheers.:)

besafe

08-06-2010, 10:26 PM

Recieved a call from an old friend (PRC KTV girl) few afternoons ago.
Was introduced first to a 22 years old and then a 23 year old student.
Rejected the 22 year old and chose the 23 year old (henan girl)
She claims to work at TAM.
Quite pretty, slim and have very well endowed boobs.( seems that most Henan girls are quite well endoewed .. at least all those that I have met.)
Extremely responsive and I certainly enjoyed such windfalls.
A RTF is probably in the pipe line.
It is always good to have connections from the past - girls that you treated well. :)
Good night.

warbird

09-06-2010, 10:35 AM

Bro WB...maybe I mis-communicated what i meant....it costs the girl $5K to come here for 6 mths but they have montly target of $8K...if they don't hit after the 2nd month....they have to go back....and they are contractually bound to work almost everyday...if you want to bring them out it costs $650 per night....so not that cheap actually...not worth it imho....the last two guys who did it spent $80k in two months!....my $80k invested in some shares yields me 5.1% a year....after 10 years...it would be $40K dividends....holding period? forever...as advocated by warren buffet

I also find that girls are getting smarter....they are not longer looking for short term BY with weekly allowance...they are fishing for more!

Hi bro ME,

I understood u well.

Several agents quoted a figure of 8k for getting a gal here as singer for 6 months, but w/o her actually working. One agent wanted 10k.

Yeah, most of the PRC gals who work at KTVs/HFJs r poorly educated but street smart. I always tell them it's for the long term as long as they please me...n I always pay them wkly. They can take it or leave it.

Cheers!

DIP = Didi in Pussy.

Bro WB... you are really funny. I laughed until my tears came out.
That's really funny.
Next it will be Dick In Mouth Index. !!!

Recieved a call from an old friend (PRC KTV girl) few afternoons ago.
Was introduced first to a 22 years old and then a 23 year old student.
Rejected the 22 year old and chose the 23 year old (henan girl)
She claims to work at TAM.
Quite pretty, slim and have very well endowed boobs.( seems that most Henan girls are quite well endoewed ...........................
It is always good to have connections from the past - girls that you treated well.

Hi bro besafe,

Yeah, I'm funny bcos life is full of fun, hehehe.

By emphasizing DIP or Didi In Pussy, I'm not neglecting the vital importance of foreplay n using ur fingers n tongue to give gals intense, multiple orgasms or even COS for 30 min or longer, just as a starter. In fact, oftentimes a gal may beg u to fxk her bcos she can't tahan the intense sensations u hv generated w/ ur fingers, 捅我, 捅我...快放进去...but dun do it, torture her...你好坏哦, she complains...delay for as long as u can, hehehe. You must be in absolute control. However, all this is only a prelude to the main course or DIP.

Once a gal is in genuine COS n u hv ur didi inside her, she will not want u to stop fxking her. So do it for 30-60min or even longer if u can. Get her on top to save u some energy...;)

Any reasonably healthy man or any woman (including lesbians) can use fingers n tongue to please a gal for hrs...so how do u stand out from the crowd? By rocking her w/ ur didi for longer than any other men. Yes, long long DIP.

A guru once said that there r only 3 reasons why a gal leaves a man voluntarily:

1) She has power over the man

2) She loses respect for the man

3) The man can't satisfy her sexually

He is spot-on!

BTW, you're having lots of action, doing ST in addition to ur BYs. We hv so much in common! I still do occasional ST w/ several of my former BAO-ees.;)

There was one gal u really missed: CS (?) who was a legal cat 150 gal. I hv to agree w/ my fren that she is the prettiest legal PRC gal thus far. A very chio SYT w/ good height n very proportionate body. I heard she is happily married in PRC! Her OKT is a hated figure at SBF n there was no FRs on her. She gave me great service including AJ!

I know a young, rich n handsome bro who is keeping 4 women at the same time. I'm going to emulate him. I'll try to keep 3-4 as well, hahaha. Wat the heck, an ah pek like me better fxk more while I still can.:D Of course GG n my niece BB want to come. My new 19 yo will return from China by the end of this month. I also met an attractive MILF last wk. She is 28-29, but is still very chio n sexy to ME. Most beautiful lips! Wonder if her pussy is as beautiful. I'm still not sure if I want her as she smokes.

Additionally, I hv another new tall gal in PRC who will know by today if her visitor pass to SIN has been approved. If not, I hv to get her a singer pass or work permit, the type that she doesn't hv to report to work. She is 170, 53 kg n has very long n very slender upper n forearms.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

09-06-2010, 10:43 AM

LOL...it's always interesting to read the sharings by the esteem brudders here...really from all walks of life and different stages of the game...

besafe

09-06-2010, 08:41 PM

Bro WB... I cannot be compared with you lah.
One bro already labeled you the Bao King in 2009.
I am sure u continue this reign in 2010.....hehehe just kidding.
Take care... I think I talk too much.

warbird

11-06-2010, 01:45 PM

LOL...it's always interesting to read the sharings by the esteem brudders here...really from all walks of life and different stages of the game...

Hi bro ME,

Life is interesting...

Bro WB... I cannot be compared with you lah.
One bro already labeled you the Bao King in 2009.
I am sure u continue this reign in 2010.....hehehe just kidding.
Take care... I think I talk too much.

Hi bro besafe,

You're very modest.

I dun want anything...I just want to live in the eternal present moment.

Cheers!

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I came upon several key concepts a few days ago:

As a rule, intrigue and the proper use of intrigue is more powerful than anything you could possibly say about yourself.

Attraction is not what you do to a woman; it is what you cause her mind to do when you're with her and in your absence.

One of women's needs that is often neglected is her need to be needed. So in order to satisfy her needs, you must be dominant and encourage her to satisfy your needs first.

She can only stay attracted to you if she feels you're the more important person. She can only enjoy your masculine gifts - your attention, presence, body, if she earns it first.

No one wants anything that comes easy, and women will often resent guys who go out of their ways to please them.

Cheers!

Bro WB

chixsticks

11-06-2010, 03:20 PM

Life has a funny way of sending you little hints to solve problems......

Was just caught in a little situation w.r.t. BY-ing KTV gals, and there u have it....some experienced old master disguised under a nick "warbird" comes along with a thread for me to chance upon right at a time he upz his thread at 1.45pm.

I've since read pg 1 to pg 10, and shall be back to finish off to the last posting before possibly coming up with the right strategy to deal wif my situation....

Thanks in advance TS!:D

MoralEpitome

11-06-2010, 10:22 PM

Life has a funny way of sending you little hints to solve problems......

Was just caught in a little situation w.r.t. BY-ing KTV gals, and there u have it....some experienced old master disguised under a nick "warbird" comes along with a thread for me to chance upon right at a time he upz his thread at 1.45pm.

I've since read pg 1 to pg 10, and shall be back to finish off to the last posting before possibly coming up with the right strategy to deal wif my situation....

Thanks in advance TS!:D

I joined this thread one to two month back...and realised that I missed out alot on the earlier postings....the past two nights I went though them and my god...it was alot to absorb and I had insommia after that! but it was certainly insightful and I realised my mistake of being KC by the ger a few months back...and I am totally in control and I think the girls find more more desirable! hahahah

i never liked gers 18 to 22 as i find them too immature and childish...but recently i also find another side to the story...they are more guillible and easy to manipulate! hahahaha...but sometimes i feel i have to entertain them more than they entertain me

DO_YOU_BJ

12-06-2010, 05:12 PM

i never liked gers 18 to 22 as i find them too immature and childish...but recently i also find another side to the story...they are more guillible and easy to manipulate! hahahaha...but sometimes i feel i have to entertain them more than they entertain me

Everything has a price.
I personally prefer getting those more than 25.
Simple, they know how to svc you
They're sexperienced
You pay to be serviced & pampered like a king
Unlike those young ones, you spend and have to teach have to pamper and have to serve only to train her to serve the next men better
So, in this light, you also paid her school fees lolzzzzzz
Yes, young and less used unlike the older ones
Hey, everything has a price to it isnt it

DO_YOU_BJ

12-06-2010, 05:15 PM

I also met an attractive MILF last wk. She is 28-29, but is still very chio n sexy to ME. Most beautiful lips! Wonder if her pussy is as beautiful. I'm still not sure if I want her as she smokes.

MILF, I like......
I dun mind smokers...they suck better lol
Singer?
Or sit tables one?

AustinPowers

13-06-2010, 02:02 PM

Hi WB

Good news! They found Cao Cao's tomb!

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They may find some Cao Cao's writings on giving women COS - as Cao Cao is also known to be a writer and poet.

You are spot on! Women like to be dominated. They also like to serve (that's why there are so many of them in the service industry). The man has to be the boss of the woman - otherwise, the relationship is as good as over. That's the way it has been since pre-historic times. Of course, there were and are matriarchal societies, but these societies never developed and prospered.

Yes, things that come too easy are never cherished. The same also applied to women giving themselves too easily to men. A man should never give everything that his woman wants. He should give it slowly and conditionally. Make her earn it!

When are you going to China again? I'll be making my annual pilgrimage some time in October.

You are the Best of the Best!

Hi bro ME,

Attraction is not what you do to a woman; it is what you cause her mind to do when you're with her and in your absence.

One of women's needs that is often neglected is her need to be needed. So in order to satisfy her needs, you must be dominant and encourage her to satisfy your needs first.

She can only stay attracted to you if she feels you're the more important person. She can only enjoy your masculine gifts - your attention, presence, body, if she earns it first.

No one wants anything that comes easy, and women will often resent guys who go out of their ways to please them.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

13-06-2010, 05:35 PM

MILF, I like......
I dun mind smokers...they suck better lol
Singer?
Or sit tables one?

I was reading about fucking young girls...how girls below the age of 24 will give you qi and energy....i think it's true! today just fucked a 22 year old girl...and now i feel so energetic!....sad to say even better than with oc! haha

warbird

14-06-2010, 10:47 AM

Life has a funny way of sending you little hints to solve problems......

Was just caught in a little situation w.r.t. BY-ing KTV gals, and there u have it....some experienced old master disguised under a nick "warbird" comes .................................................. ........

Hi bro chixsticks,

Wats w.r.t.?

I'm an ah pek all right, but I'm neither experienced nor a master. My first BY deal was consummated just over a yr ago...

I joined this thread one to two month back...and realised that I missed out alot on the earlier postings....the past two nights I went though them and my god...it was alot to absorb and I had insommia after that!.....and I am totally in control and I think the girls find more more desirable! hahahah

i never liked gers 18 to 22 as i find them too immature and childish......they are more guillible and easy to manipulate! hahahaha...but sometimes i feel i have to entertain them more than they entertain me....

Hi bro ME,

Although I prefer younger ones, I dun mind MILFs if they appear pretty n sexy to ME. Variety is the spice of life, hehehe.

Everything has a price.
I personally prefer getting those more than 25.
Simple, they know how to svc you
They're sexperienced
You pay to be serviced & pampered like a king
Unlike those young ones, you spend and have to teach have to pamper and have to serve only to train her to serve the next men better
.................................................. ..........

MILF, I like......
I dun mind smokers...they suck better lol
Singer?
Or sit tables one?

Hi esteemed Mr. Austin,

I agree tat almost everything has a price, but a few things r priceless, hehehe. Love? COS?

This particular MILF u may like in terms of looks n body. But luckily for me, she "sit tables," hahaha. She is a Fujian gal on WP who can sing Hokkien songs quite well.

There is another one, who is a Suzhou gal n uni graduate on student pass here, abt 26-27, who is very sexy n playful. Ht 164, wt 50Kg, very firm body n shapely ass. But she is tanned, just like a local gal. She "sit tables" too. She asked me if I was a gynecologist!!

Actually, there is one other gal whom u may like. Also 26-27 yo who grew up in Xiamen (dad from Suzhou) who is on singer permit, working for TAM/CI. Does she qualify as a singer? Face very pretty, abt 165, slim perhaps 45-46 kg only. She wants to be BAO-ed, but the BAO-er has to pay 5k a month to TAM n she wants another 15-20K a month, if she doesn't work at all.:eek: I guess only towkays of ur calibre n deep deep pocket can afford her.;) Of course, someone w/ time, skills n perceived high dominance status could get her for much less.

BTW, after a session at DC HH on Thurs, I went to MC 4th fl to say hello to u n ur young pal, but both of u were not there!

Hi WB

Good news! They found Cao Cao's tomb!
....................They may find some Cao Cao's writings on giving women COS - as Cao Cao is also known to be a writer and poet.

You are spot on! Women like to be dominated. They also like to serve..........
Yes, things that come too easy are never cherished. The same also applied to women giving themselves too easily to men. A man should never give everything that his woman wants. He should give it slowly and conditionally. Make her earn it!

When are you going to China again?..................

Hi bro AP,

I knew abt Cao Cao's tomb but not his writings on how to give COS to women. Now u know why he is my hero!!

If a gal is too easy n who cares a lot more abt the RS, I'll lose interest...

That is why giving COS w/ long DIP to a gal is so powerful! You will turn a proud n hard-to-get goddess into a needy, clingy n pathetic char bor, someone u may want to dump.

China? Yeah, I'm going soon.

I was reading about fucking young girls...how girls below the age of 24 will give you qi and energy....i think it's true! today just fucked a 22 year old girl...and now i feel so energetic!....sad to say even better than with oc! haha

There is no medical basis to support such beliefs. Most of my BAO-ees hv been under 25 n a few as young as 18-19, but I feel tired, not vitalized.

.................................................. .................................................. .......

More musings on COS.

There r 2 prerequisites:

1) The gal must like u, hv good rapport w/ u n hv some KC for u. Her KC for u will be greatly increased when she gets more n more COS. I call tat an upward spiral.

2) She must be completely relaxed n in a safe n secure setting.

If u hv given a gal genuine COS n long DIP on a consistent basis, after perhaps 6-8 times, she will be addicted to u, just like addiction to cocaine or opium. Very similar neuro-chemical mechanisms. You must be prepared for the consequences...she wont leave u alone!:eek:

Lastly, it's physically impossible to fake a genuine COS for 30 min. COS differs from ordinary multiple orgasms (regardless of how many) in tat in COS she is in Continuously Orgasmic State w/ fluctuating intensity, but NO complete letup. Her behaviour towards u will change thereafter. ;) I guarantee it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

DO_YOU_BJ

14-06-2010, 02:49 PM

Hi esteemed Mr. Austin,

I agree tat almost everything has a price, but a few things r priceless, hehehe. Love? COS?

This particular MILF u may like in terms of looks n body. But luckily for me, she "sit tables," hahaha. She is a Fujian gal on WP who can sing Hokkien songs quite well.

There is another one, who is a Suzhou gal n uni graduate on student pass here, abt 26-27, who is very sexy n playful. Ht 164, wt 50Kg, very firm body n shapely ass. But she is tanned, just like a local gal. She "sit tables" too. She asked me if I was a gynecologist!!

Actually, there is one other gal whom u may like. Also 26-27 yo who grew up in Xiamen (dad from Suzhou) who is on singer permit, working for TAM/CI. Does she qualify as a singer? Face very pretty, abt 165, slim perhaps 45-46 kg only. She wants to be BAO-ed, but the BAO-er has to pay 5k a month to TAM n she wants another 15-20K a month, if she doesn't work at all.:eek: I guess only towkays of ur calibre n deep deep pocket can afford her.;) Of course, someone w/ time, skills n perceived high dominance status could get her for much less.

BTW, after a session at DC HH on Thurs, I went to MC 4th fl to say hello to u n ur young pal, but both of u were not there!

Singer pass for CI & TAM also sit tables, where got stage for them to sing???
If she fits the bill & is really a full fledged singer, ah...then maybe can consider............guess they're outta list then.

Sorry, last thurs we were at Lido Palace

MoralEpitome

14-06-2010, 10:09 PM

warbird

15-06-2010, 10:45 AM

Singer pass for CI & TAM also sit tables, where got stage for them to sing???
If she fits the bill & is really a full fledged singer, ah...then maybe can consider............guess they're outta list then.

Sorry, last thurs we were at Lido Palace

Hi esteemed Mr. Austin,

No, she is not a full-fledged singer...but u hv the magic wand to make her a real singer, hehehe.;)

You're highly selective, just like a medical sub-specialist whose practice is strictly limited to singers. Whereas I'm like a local GP, trying to eat everything that looks good to me...I'll need many yrs of advanced n supervised training n hands-on experience before I can hope to become a sub-specialist. But to each his own, I may choose to remain a GP...:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. .................................................. .......

More on the power of COS.

Recently, for the very 1st time, I rejected a BAO-ee for sex as I was too tired. She was visibly upset...

This gal purposely dressed in a very sexy manner w/ hot pants n a low-cut blouse tat revealed her deep cleavage (she has natural C+ boobs, but she claims she has difficulty finding her D cup in SIN) n light makeup. We went shopping at Bugis in the PM. Before dinner time, she said: 我要你今天操我...(操我 means fuck me hard or rape me!). She was shameless, very out of character for such an inexperienced young woman. I said: Another day, OK? Her reply: No, not OK. 你不爱我了！She was upset n wanted to go home immediately...

I hv turned the table! The reason? I hv given her COS w/ long DIP several times n she is beginning to get addicted.

Ths for reading!

DO_YOU_BJ

15-06-2010, 05:33 PM

bro bybj...u r the bao-er of 178? lol...

Sorry to disappoint you, but i'm not the one.

MoralEpitome

15-06-2010, 11:14 PM

Sorry to disappoint you, but i'm not the one.

Yeah, anyway...heard your big name today...your power is definitely not any less than him....just that he fast leg fast hang that time....

MoralEpitome

15-06-2010, 11:23 PM

Hi esteemed Mr. Austin,

No, she is not a full-fledged singer...but u hv the magic wand to make her a real singer, hehehe.;)

You're highly selective, just like a medical sub-specialist whose practice is strictly limited to singers. Whereas I'm like a local GP, trying to eat everything that looks good to me...I'll need many yrs of advanced n supervised training n hands-on experience before I can hope to become a sub-specialist. But to each his own, I may choose to remain a GP...:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. .................................................. .......

More on the power of COS.

Recently, for the very 1st time, I rejected a BAO-ee for sex as I was too tired. She was visibly upset...

This gal purposely dressed in a very sexy manner w/ hot pants n a low-cut blouse tat revealed her deep cleavage (she has natural C+ boobs, but she claims she has difficulty finding her D cup in SIN) n light makeup. We went shopping at Bugis in the PM. Before dinner time, she said: 我要你今天操我...(操我 means fuck me hard or rape me!). She was shameless, very out of character for such an inexperienced young woman. I said: Another day, OK? Her reply: No, not OK. 你不爱我了！She was upset n wanted to go home immediately...

I hv turned the table! The reason? I hv given her COS w/ long DIP several times n she is beginning to get addicted.

Ths for reading!

These young girls are sometimes still immature and tempermental la...but easily susceptible to our tactics...i have learned things from this thread...and is successful in my latest exploit of this former DC girl...

DO_YOU_BJ

16-06-2010, 05:15 AM

Yeah, anyway...heard your big name today...your power is definitely not any less than him..

Bro, pls dun anyhow say hor......
My name not big...very small nobody only.

..just that he fast leg fast hang that time....
Yeah, the diff between him & me is that he fast leg fast hang but i fast hand fast leg hehehehe:D

MoralEpitome

16-06-2010, 10:32 AM

Bro, pls dun anyhow say hor......
My name not big...very small nobody only.

haha....don't be modest la...but yeah i agree everything do in moderation...

Yeah, the diff between him & me is that he fast leg fast hang but i fast hand fast leg hehehehe:D

ever since 178 went back...never see him around already...

also heard from someone your sensible advice to her...way to go bro! you are really yi dai zhong shi(master of your generation) hahahahah

MoralEpitome

16-06-2010, 09:41 PM

Nice to get a call from the mysterious Mr Austin a.k.a BYBJ today...finally the mystery is solved...also managed to talk for a long time without my highly suspicious and smart OC or my office subordinates near me...would say hi in person if have the chance to, although our cheonging times are vastly different! Din know his England so powderful as I can't speak Hokkien hahah

warbird

18-06-2010, 04:03 PM

These young girls are sometimes still immature and tempermental la...but easily susceptible to our tactics...i have learned things from this thread...and is successful in my latest exploit of this former DC girl...

Hi bro ME,

Some SYTs r good, some MILFs r good n those in between also good, hehehe. You should try to eat them all!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good afternoon!

According to some gurus, if there is one single male trait tat is the most attractive to gals/women at their subconscious level, it's dominant self mastery n self control. It's fatally attractive to the most beautiful women.

If u hv it, everything else is secondary. If u dun hv it, no amt of money, strategies, hypnosis, etc would help tat much. Except perhaps ur abilty to give COS w/ long DIP, hahaha.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

19-06-2010, 12:10 AM

Hi bro ME,

Some SYTs r good, some MILFs r good n those in between also good, hehehe. You should try to eat them all!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good afternoon!

According to some gurus, if there is one single male trait tat is the most attractive to gals/women at their subconscious level, it's dominant self mastery n self control. It's fatally attractive to the most beautiful women.

If u hv it, everything else is secondary. If u dun hv it, no amt of money, strategies, hypnosis, etc would help tat much. Except perhaps ur abilty to give COS w/ long DIP, hahaha.:D

Cheers!

Bro WB

LOL Bro when I reach your level of success probably I can eat them all but I am still a young apprentice at this...so I will stick to one at a time...this is a very interesting thread...and your words of wisdom are enlightening...2 of my good frens's parent died and dying of career....life is fragile...and I have been enjoying it as much as I can the past few months!...feel like going ktv just go...feel like fucking just fuck....but feeling abit jaded also...need to find more meaning to life...thinking of re-igniting my forex trading after losing at the past 2 times...it is tricky and violatile and I been stopped out many times....but lucky made a little money from my other investments...enuff to BY a ger for 1 year or so...

AustinPowers

19-06-2010, 03:23 AM

Hi Supreme Master WB

Can you elaborate on Dominant Self-Mastery n Self-Control?

Previously, you talked mostly about Alpha Male and Male Social Dominant Order - i.e. - dominance and control over others.

Now, you are talking about self-control. That's so Zen! If you can't master and control yourself, how can you master and control others? If you can't control yourself, how can you control the situation you are in? Yes, I notice girls are attracted to men who are in control of themselves, calm and collected, not emotional or temperamental. Is that what you mean by "Dominant Self-Mastery n Self-Control"? What does 'Dominant' mean in this context? Please enlighten us, O Supreme Master.

Hi bro ME,

if there is one single male trait tat is the most attractive to gals/women at their subconscious level, it's dominant self mastery n self control. It's fatally attractive to the most beautiful women.

Bro WB

warbird

20-06-2010, 11:51 AM

QUOTE=MoralEpitome;4932554]LOL Bro when I reach your level of success probably I can eat them all but I am still a young apprentice at this...so I will stick to one at a time...this is a very interesting thread...and your words of wisdom are enlightening...2 of my good frens's parent died and dying of career....life is fragile...and I have been enjoying it as much as I can the past few months!...feel like going ktv just go...feel like fucking just fuck....but feeling abit jaded also...need to find more meaning to life...thinking of re-igniting my forex trading after losing at the past 2 times...it is tricky and violatile and I been stopped out many times....but lucky made a little money from my other investments...enuff to BY a ger for 1 year or so...[/QUOTE]

Hi bro EP,

Wat level of success? I'm an elementary student of BY-ing...

Words of wisdom? I'm merely quoting the writings of the "wise men"...

I do know a bit more abt investing/trading. Be very careful w/ Forex trading as it's pure speculation.

You're doing great really, doing wat u like n going w/ the flow...being completely detached from the outcome.

............
Can you elaborate on Dominant Self-Mastery n Self-Control?

Previously, you talked mostly about Alpha Male and Male Social Dominant Order - i.e. - dominance and control over others.

Now, you are talking about self-control. That's so Zen! If you can't master and control yourself, how can you master and control others? If you can't control yourself, how can you control the situation you are in? Yes, I notice girls are attracted to men who are in control of themselves, calm and collected, not emotional or temperamental. Is that what you mean by "Dominant Self-Mastery n Self-Control"? What does 'Dominant' mean in this context? ......

Hi bro AP,

I recently realized tat trying to be Alpha is not Alpha at all.

Yes, ur perceived dominant male status is the sole determinant of ur attractiveness to women/gals.

I hv dug deeper n found tat it's not ur actual high social-economic status or financial power per se but ur dominant self mastery/self control which is perceived by the subconscious minds tat is the "secret active ingredient" of ur attractiveness.

A wealthy n successful man or a man of power usually, though by no means always, has greater self mastery/self control compared w/ less successful men. It's a chicken or egg question as to which came first. I would say self mastery must come first (inherited money or position is an exception).

Bro AP, u hv more or less answered your own question.

IMHO, the word "dominant" in "dominant self mastery and self control" is very close to "supreme" n "absolute." The rare man who has this character trait is fatally attractive to the most beautiful women. He will be equally invincible in his other pursuits in life...

The problem is that knowing n doing r completely different. Doing n being r again completely different...

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Let's get back to something more mundane.

The quantity n quality of KTV MMs must hv improved a little lately. In the one last wk, I hv met several tall gals, all in 21-23 yo range, who r my type. Prior to this past wk, I hv not met one tall one whom I fancy since my return over 1 1/2 months ago. I guess it's feast or famine, hehehe.

Yesterday, I booked one of them for the 1st time ( I saw her n got her no in the hallway of a joint) to join a few frens at DC complex. At 9:40 PM, she called from TAM complex n said her customer wont let her go. I ordered her to forget abt him, excuse herself n come asap. She arrived just after 10PM.

She is 22, has the same body type as KK, although a tad taller at 172, has natural C boobs (she assured me) n slightly bigger n more shapely ass. She is a Dongbei gal although her mom is an ethnic minority from Kangxi. She claims tat she had a fairer skin than me until a few months ago n her light tan is a result of recent sun exposure?!! She arrived in SIN less than a wk ago.

We argued abt Cao Cao n the former USSR vs. USA...I made her very relaxed by massaging her neck n upper back n she reciprocated. I asked her for ST which she flatly rejected. Good for u, I said. Later, I popped the question n she promised to consider it. Tat is cool, I replied. Just before I left, I started kissing her neck n then cupped her face in my palms n kissed her. She offered little resistance. She had tacitly agreed. One negative: She smokes.

Not sure how long I would keep her as there r others n one of them is 174 n my type.

Regardless of how beautiful a gal appears when clothed, I can't keep her more than 2 wks unless I like her personality very much AND her pussy is aesthetically very pleasing to me. I can only eat a pussy which is pink, fresh, very appealing n delicious to me.;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

sing11235813

21-06-2010, 05:31 PM

DO_YOU_BJ

22-06-2010, 05:32 AM

Bro sing11235813, i think bro warbird would be a better person to advise you.
I am more of flexi time program whereas bro warbird is also limited wif time constraint.
But have you not heard of happy hour?
KTVs open at 3pm!!!!!!

sing11235813

22-06-2010, 11:40 AM

Dear Bro DYBJ,

Many thanks for your suggestion.

Unfortunately, I would lump KTV gals together with FL (ok, maybe an infrequent/irregular FL).

I'm thinking of regular (student/OL) gal, ie. non-WL/FL/KTV, but of course with the usual paying-customer characteristics: no-strings, no-false promises, limited-duration. Sort of like indecent proposal BUT younger, hotter, wilder, cheaper (can't pay $1m per bonk!), and longer (perhaps 1 month).

Bro Warbird: looking forward to your response!

Loving_Dickhead

22-06-2010, 12:15 PM

Dear Bro Warbird,

I hope you don't mind me borrowing your thread for a little while. I hope to elicit some response from yourself, and bro DYBJ (since the 2 of you since the most experienced in what I'm about to ask). But of course, all other bros are most welcomed to pen their thoughts.

Quick background: I'm in my early 50's, with the usual trappings of OC, post-adolescent kids, etc. Started to eat out only recently (escort, some higher-end fl) but find it quite unsatisfying and unenjoyable, mainly because it feels a little cheap, unreal, and like I'm using a public toilet. So, am on the lookout for something more....

Constraint: Time. On most days, I need to be home after office hours, as my job doesn't require me to work post-office hours; would look real suspicious if I pull funny stunts especially after not doing it for 20+ years (big mistake!). Fortunately, during office hours, my timing is really flexible. My big boss is not even based in SG, so I pretty much run the trading desk like a local warlord!

Budget: Am willing to go up to 50K per month. More if it is really necessary and worth it.

Appeal: Need some ideas to get some really feel-good moments. I'm talking GFE, looks, body, yet with class and must be non-wl/fl/ktv. Wonder if it is at all possible. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking undergrads? OL? But, since all transactions must take place during office hours, it's kinda hard for me to go chasing after them in clubs/bars (besides those that go to these places to be picked up are probably not what I'm looking for anyway). Any and all ideas welcomed!

Bro,

With such a budget, even the A-list singers will be snapped up by you. :)
Have fun... But beware of the KC trap.

Cheers,
LDH :D

ken li

22-06-2010, 01:25 PM

Dear Bro Warbird,

....

Constraint: Time. ...

Budget: Am willing to go up to 50K per month. More if it is really necessary and worth it.

...!

I know I am not the intended receipient of your query. But I can't help myself replying: - You need a banker not a BYee! Hahaha... LOL... :)

BTW, I am not a banker. I really don't think 50k is necessary even with time constraints. Please don't be offended.

MoralEpitome

22-06-2010, 08:49 PM

I know I am not the intended receipient of your query. But I can't help myself replying: - You need a banker not a BYee! Hahaha... LOL... :)

BTW, I am not a banker. I really don't think 50k is necessary even with time constraints. Please don't be offended.

I think Bro Sing is probably a banker himself trading for the bank...50k a mth is in the range of the chief treasurer...but 50k a month is certainly a good problem to have!

MoralEpitome

22-06-2010, 08:58 PM

Dear Bro Warbird,

I hope you don't mind me borrowing your thread for a little while. I hope to elicit some response from yourself, and bro DYBJ (since the 2 of you since the most experienced in what I'm about to ask). But of course, all other bros are most welcomed to pen their thoughts.

Quick background: I'm in my early 50's, with the usual trappings of OC, post-adolescent kids, etc. Started to eat out only recently (escort, some higher-end fl) but find it quite unsatisfying and unenjoyable, mainly because it feels a little cheap, unreal, and like I'm using a public toilet. So, am on the lookout for something more....

Constraint: Time. On most days, I need to be home after office hours, as my job doesn't require me to work post-office hours; would look real suspicious if I pull funny stunts especially after not doing it for 20+ years (big mistake!). Fortunately, during office hours, my timing is really flexible. My big boss is not even based in SG, so I pretty much run the trading desk like a local warlord!

Budget: Am willing to go up to 50K per month. More if it is really necessary and worth it.

Appeal: Need some ideas to get some really feel-good moments. I'm talking GFE, looks, body, yet with class and must be non-wl/fl/ktv. Wonder if it is at all possible. Off the top of my head, I'm thinking undergrads? OL? But, since all transactions must take place during office hours, it's kinda hard for me to go chasing after them in clubs/bars (besides those that go to these places to be picked up are probably not what I'm looking for anyway). Any and all ideas welcomed!

In my humble opinion if you want classy...there are many beautiful and smart uni undergrads available out there in the market...do you consider these are non FL as they are just working as high class escorts for perhaps $600 an hour...perhaps you can consider some of those duxton/tanjong pagar pubs where you have pretty poly or uni undergrads working as waitresses or PR officers...you don't have to throw money in their face....a chanel 2.55 should do the trick...i never failed to see to a girl smile when I go Chanel to shop and see their husbands or bfs buying them a bag...of course if taka is too exposed for you and you may be recognized...I would not dare to bring other girls there as my gf shops there very often....you can go DFS at Royal Plaza and buy a LV...more discreet...hahahahaa

MoralEpitome

22-06-2010, 09:07 PM

S i l v i a

23-06-2010, 05:30 AM

Normally bros here do what for a living that can support a part-time wife outside? Heehee

For me, i'm doing my own small biz (legal one lah) generating about $10k profit per month. Deduct house,car,credit card,misc still got left about $4k. Sometimes save abit of the $4k, sometimes use all the $4k for screwing activities.

Right now also looking for other source of incomes,but stock markets now like very unstable. Hope there some bros here can give any advice on biz ideas or wat...

basher69

23-06-2010, 08:00 AM

warbird

23-06-2010, 11:38 AM

Dear Bro Warbird,
.........................I hope to elicit some response from yourself, and bro DYBJ .....But of course, all other bros are most welcomed to pen their thoughts.

Quick background: I'm in my early 50's, with the usual trappings of OC, post-adolescent kids, etc. Started to eat out only recently (escort, some higher-end fl) but find it quite unsatisfying and unenjoyable.......So, am on the lookout for something more....

Constraint: Time. On most days, I need to be home after office hours........

Budget: Am willing to go up to 50K per month. More if it is really necessary and worth it.

Appeal: Need some ideas to get some really feel-good moments. I'm talking GFE, looks, body, yet with class and must be non-wl/fl/ktv............

Dear Bro DYBJ,

Many thanks for your suggestion.....................................

I'm thinking of regular (student/OL) gal, ie. non-WL/FL/KTV, but of course with the usual paying-customer characteristics: no-strings, no-false promises, limited-duration. Sort of like indecent proposal BUT younger, hotter, wilder, cheaper (can't pay $1m per bonk!), and longer (perhaps 1 month).

Bro Warbird: looking forward to your response!

Hi bro sing11235813,

I sense that you're dissatisfied doing ST w/ FLs/escorts/models n want to experience more GFE n companionship...I suggest u BY a gal on a longer term basis, say from 1 to several months. With ur generous budget, u will be spoilt for choice. The difficulty is finding the right gal n the danger is KC trap. You hv to KC her w/o getting KC-ed!

To be honest, I hv had very limited experience in "eating out" as I BAO-ed my 1st gal just over a yr ago. Hv encountered many problems n failures, as detailed in this thread.

Time constraint is a severe handicap in BY-ing. I hv faced the same problem.
It's difficult to KC a gal if ur time is limited. If I dun spend enough time w/ a BAO-ee, such as eating meals together several times a wk, taking her to outings n staying at her place n eating her home cook dinner at least occasionally, etc., n only meeting her n fxking her in a hotel rm, she will complain that it's an outright transaction.

BTW, u must convince ur OC why u hv to go out at nite. Take up nighttime hobbies or join clubs such as Toastmasters...

My previous BYs hv lasted from 1 wk to 2 months, due partly to time constraint n partly to various unforeseen circumstances. Nowadays if I like a gal after 1 wk, I'll definitely move her to a flat close to my residence so that I can stay w/ her n get her to cook, etc. It's like a 2nd home, ya?

I suggest that u PM bro DUBJ n seek his advice. You will benefit greatly from his wisdom n vast experience in BY-ing. BTW, he is successful in many areas of life n nurturing multiple RS w/ high quality women is only his minor interest...;)

Cheers!

Bro WB

Bro sing11235813, i think bro warbird would be a better person to advise you.
I am more of flexi time program whereas bro warbird is also limited wif time constraint.
But have you not heard of happy hour?
KTVs open at 3pm!!!!!!

Hi my esteemed Mr. Austin,

Bro sing11235813 certainly needs ur help, hehehe.

It was my honor to hv met u again recently. I'm most impressed w/ ur vision n ur zest for living...:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. .................................................. .......

A few words abt multiple RS (w/ women).

BTW, bro DUBJ n his young associate hv successfully maintained multiple RS under one roof! They hv acheived wat most men only dream abt n hv left all those Ang Mo gurus in the dust.

Recently, I emailed a top Ang Mo guru:

Hi Mr. Guru,

I have learned a lot from you.

My mistress A will get jealous if I date other women. She doesn't know about my other mistress B n if she knows she may leave me. Whereas B knows about A and really doesn't mind. B actually wants to live w/ A to save money and to have threesome!

What should I do?

Thanks so much,

Bro WB

His reply:

Hey Bro WB,

Quality problem ;-)

From experience: Keep 'em seperate.

No other move here.

Mr. Guru

Ths for reading n hv a great day!

Bro WB

warbird

23-06-2010, 11:48 AM

Yeah are you an angel investor in NY?....I just find that having a day job will not enable to reach my goal in time......that's why I believing in investing...I have my long term long strategies in equities doing dollar cost averaging...generally this has done pretty all right..........however I am thinking of trading some instructions for short term gains and passive income....this I had not done well and lost some money as trading is very dynamic and markets can move very fast...but I feel that if I can master this well.........do give some tips and advice on these too so us bros can have more money to enjoy life!

Hi bro EP,

I think you must be doing really well...

No, I'm no angel, just a lao chi ko pek, hehehe.:D

Joking aside, investing in start up co is very speculative...I'm basically a value investor who enjoys swing trading for fun. My MO is to estimate the intrinsic value of a listed company w/ good potential n then wait patiently to buy at half price.

As for trading n speculative investing, you need to do it on a full time basis, or else dun do it.

Cheers!

Bro WB

sing11235813

23-06-2010, 05:59 PM

Bro,

With such a budget, even the A-list singers will be snapped up by you. :)
Have fun... But beware of the KC trap.

Cheers,
LDH :D

Dear Bro LDH: Thanks for your suggestions, but as mentioned, I don't derive that much satisfaction in buying bonks from someone whose professional job is to sell bonks. Correct me if I am wrong, but singers are kinda in that category right? Besides timing-wise, it'll be rather difficult for me to go fishing for them in the middle of the night....

In my humble opinion if you want classy...there are many beautiful and smart uni undergrads available out there in the market...do you consider these are non FL as they are just working as high class escorts for perhaps $600 an hour...perhaps you can consider some of those duxton/tanjong pagar pubs where you have pretty poly or uni undergrads working as waitresses or PR officers...you don't have to throw money in their face....a chanel 2.55 should do the trick...i never failed to see to a girl smile when I go Chanel to shop and see their husbands or bfs buying them a bag...of course if taka is too exposed for you and you may be recognized...I would not dare to bring other girls there as my gf shops there very often....you can go DFS at Royal Plaza and buy a LV...more discreet...hahahahaa

Dear Bro ME: Thanks for your suggestion. Beautiful and smart undergrads who are not FL, but want to do just a simple short-term transaction would suit me quite well actually. So, if they are completely clean (never done commercial bonk) and are willing to be BY for a couple of months for me to enjoy (ravage :p), such a deal is worth considering. I would imagine that the pricing should be commensurate with their "sacrifice" since, really, they are not FL, but ordinary gals-- really like indecent proposal!

Hi bro sing11235813,

I sense that you're dissatisfied doing ST w/ FLs/escorts/models n want to experience more GFE n companionship...I suggest u BY a gal on a longer term basis, say from 1 to several months. With ur generous budget, u will be spoilt for choice. The difficulty is finding the right gal n the danger is KC trap. You hv to KC her w/o getting KC-ed!

To be honest, I hv had very limited experience in "eating out" as I BAO-ed my 1st gal just over a yr ago. Hv encountered many problems n failures, as detailed in this thread.

Time constraint is a severe handicap in BY-ing. I hv faced the same problem.
It's difficult to KC a gal if ur time is limited. If I dun spend enough time w/ a BAO-ee, such as eating meals together several times a wk, taking her to outings n staying at her place n eating her home cook dinner at least occasionally, etc., n only meeting her n fxking her in a hotel rm, she will complain that it's an outright transaction.

BTW, u must convince ur OC why u hv to go out at nite. Take up nighttime hobbies or join clubs such as Toastmasters...

My previous BYs hv lasted from 1 wk to 2 months, due partly to time constraint n partly to various unforeseen circumstances. Nowadays if I like a gal after 1 wk, I'll definitely move her to a flat close to my residence so that I can stay w/ her n get her to cook, etc. It's like a 2nd home, ya?

I suggest that u PM bro DUBJ n seek his advice. You will benefit greatly from his wisdom n vast experience in BY-ing. BTW, he is successful in many areas of life n nurturing multiple RS w/ high quality women is only his minor interest...;)

Dear Bro Warbird: The man I've been waiting for, to get his pearls of wisdom! You're reading my sentiments right about my dissatisfaction.

I've distilled my problem to the following: I want to buy service, but only from those who don't usually provide the service!

KC: I think, I hope, I wish that I won't fall for it. I don't usually screw up big time in such matters, but like some bros say, you won't know until it hits you. I don't think I am looking to KC a girl. If she provides good service, and does what I tell her to do, that's good enough for me. I have no big desire to hear sweet nothings from a SYT.

Going out at night: It'll be really quite wierd for me to join toastmasters, at this age and this stage of my career. Maybe I could think of "engineering" a belated mid-life crisis of some sort that would result in me spending more time out at wierd hours.

Arranging housing for BY near my place, eating her cooking, etc... At this point, it seems like a little too much trouble for me. I'm thinking more of just booking a nice room in a nice hotel as and when there is a need. Afterall, my BY-ee would probably have a regular life to lead-- her own home, school/job, etc. Also better coz I need to execute the whole project without the girl ever knowing my real identity.

MoralEpitome

23-06-2010, 09:47 PM

Sorry to intrude on this thread, am curious which escort agencies have undergrads? 50K a month is pretty high. Dont think it will cost more than 10k per month to maintain a mistress.... Bro, u must be extremely rich. I cant afford to throw 50K a month. Makes me feel so poor. I pay 15K a month in income tax, how I wish I was a pte ltd company, then can pay myself in dividends instead of being a salaried worker. Sigh, just rambling, wished I could afford 50K a month expenditure.

wow...15k a month in income tax...i don't even earn 15k a month...lol....i must be the poorest guy in this thread...i am honoured to be in such esteemed company...lol....okay...i will stick to transactional until I reach 15k a mth in income tax....

MoralEpitome

23-06-2010, 09:50 PM

Dear Bro ME: Thanks for your suggestion. Beautiful and smart undergrads who are not FL, but want to do just a simple short-term transaction would suit me quite well actually. So, if they are completely clean (never done commercial bonk) and are willing to be BY for a couple of months for me to enjoy (ravage :p), such a deal is worth considering. I would imagine that the pricing should be commensurate with their "sacrifice" since, really, they are not FL, but ordinary gals-- really like indecent proposal!

I heard can pick up normal girls with a wild streak at shanghai dolly and luna....but all men are fan jian...we always want the forbidden fruit...alternatively velvet's members bar...

Loving_Dickhead

24-06-2010, 11:51 AM

Dear Bro LDH: Thanks for your suggestions, but as mentioned, I don't derive that much satisfaction in buying bonks from someone whose professional job is to sell bonks. Correct me if I am wrong, but singers are kinda in that category right? Besides timing-wise, it'll be rather difficult for me to go fishing for them in the middle of the night....

Good morning bro!

Not all singers are selling meat for bonks. Some are really decent but few and far in-between. Majority can be upped for a certain amount of monetary investment. Some are here to chop chop carrot heads, stashed and loaded with money thus looking for real love and companion, some are up-right decent while some are too innocent (1st timers) etc etc.

Bro DYBJ is the guru in sizing up singers and holding them within their "human" traits... do wait for his reply - I have personally benefitted from his past experiences.

For me: Singers are easier to control because of their working hours i.e. need to punch card in by certain time and out by certain time while requiring to work 7 days a week. I like their afternoon cos they are free and I can alway sneak out for a quickie. My night time are usually reserved for my wives & family.

Even for fresh grads out to make some moolah and willing to be kept by you - its still transactional. Who knows when you are away, they may be spending the money you gave them on their "unknown" boyfriends. There are angels amongst the devils and vice-versa. No good women is willing to be BY and be a kept women for the purpose of the flesh. I'd still grade them as the softcore FL.

Most women want their men to prove SOMETHING first before committing, cash, home, security, time, affection, good qualities/habits etc etc and the list goes on. Why can't we men put the same out to the gals? Be alpha and we choose the best, why must women have all the choices? Why must they be the ones playing hard to get? These are issues for you to ponder... get them right, and the gals will come flocking WITHOUT the need to invest too much.

Cheers,
LDH :D

.

lge8

24-06-2010, 12:06 PM

learned something new . . .(:

marc5

24-06-2010, 12:15 PM

Bro DYBJ is the guru ...

... get them right, and the gals will come flocking WITHOUT the need to invest too much.

.

Wise words, wise words. Now the new guru speaks. I can surely learn a thing or two from the gurus. :D

MoralEpitome

24-06-2010, 09:26 PM

Eagerly awaiting learnings from the gurus...

warbird

25-06-2010, 10:15 AM

Duplicate post.

warbird

25-06-2010, 10:22 AM

Dear Bro Warbird:.......................................... .....................................
I've distilled my problem to the following: I want to buy service, but only from those who don't usually provide the service!

KC: I think, I hope, I wish that I won't fall for it......................... I don't think I am looking to KC a girl. If she provides good service, and does what I tell her to do, that's good enough for me. I have no big desire to hear sweet nothings from a SYT.

Going out at night: It'll be really quite wierd for me to join toastmasters, at this age and this stage of my career..........................................

Arranging housing for BY near my place, eating her cooking, etc... At this point, it seems like a little too much trouble for me...................

Hi bro sing 11235813,

"I want to buy service, but only from those who don't usually provide the service!"

"Usually" is not the same as "Never Before."

Where to find a "Never Before" type of gal? Once u find her, by whatever means at ur disposal, it's more cost effective n time-saving to pay generously to get her body. If she proves satisfactory (including but not limited to a very chio pussy), keep her on a longer term basis n then KC her at ur leisure. Your ability to give her regular COS w/ prolonged DIP will be decisive...

Your experience n sentiment struck a chord w/ me. Did ST w/ FLs, etc., but desired more GFE n companionship...started BY-ing...still not satisfied...now want to KC them. It's fun as long as one doesn't get KC-ed or become attached to the outcome.

C'mon, get her a studio apt close to u. You can afford it n it's a lot of fun.;)

For over 2,000 yrs, the Chinese has a saying 金屋藏嬌. Believe me, u wont regret it.

Cheers!

....................................
Bro DYBJ is the guru in sizing up singers and holding them within their "human" traits... do wait for his reply - I have personally benefitted from his past experiences.

For me: Singers are easier to control because of their working hours...........

Even for fresh grads out to make some moolah and willing to be kept by you - its still transactional. Who knows when you are away, they may be spending the money you gave them on their "unknown" boyfriends..........No good women is willing to be BY and be a kept women for the purpose of the flesh. I'd still grade them as the softcore FL.

..............................These are issues for you to ponder... get them right, and the gals will come flocking WITHOUT the need to invest too much.

H bro LDH,

Very wise words...

I really like the new term softcore FL, hahaha.

Cheers!

Wise words, wise words. Now the new guru speaks. I can surely learn a thing or two from the gurus.

Hi bro marc5,

It was my pleasure to hv met u recently. You r a master in ur own right, very smooth n cool...

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

29-06-2010, 10:31 AM

Good morning!

According to many gurus, ur success w/ women is a function of ur rapport w/ them. Approaching, meeting, dating n seducing them...depends largely on deepening ur rapport. The deeper the rapport, the better n stronger the RS. The final aim is to KC them n give them COS. Deepening rapport will greatly facilitate these goals.

A few days ago, I received an email from a guru on a quick tip to deepen rapport/attraction:

Bro WB,

I used to have a hard time finding women who wanted to be more
than friends with me. I had female "friends" coming out my ears -
and I was sick of it.

I HATED getting LJBF'd (Let's Just Be Friends)...

It drove me CRAZY.

Having attraction with women is no longer a struggle for me, and
there's one thing in particular I learned that made a real difference.
I'm gonna lay it on you now...

First of all, remember that women are like tuning forks and they
instantly pick up on what you are "resonating." Therefore, one
of the most powerful ways to deepen your resonance (presence)
is to:

Retrain Your Breathing.

I used to be what I call a "chest-breather." By that, I mean that
my inhalations went no lower than my chest - my ribcage.

A lot of guys who struggle with creating sexual attraction with
women are also "chest-breathers."

How about you?

As you're sitting here now, reading this, how deep is your breathing?
How far down into your body does your breath expand?

Try This Exercise:

RIGHT NOW, put a hand on your lower stomach, and draw air all the
way down past your ribs, and allow it to expand your diaphragm and
your belly. Your breath should literally PUSH THE HAND on your belly
UP with each inhale. Actually try this, and see what you notice.

Once you have that down (and for some guys, it takes a while to figure
out which muscles control this ability), practice breathing even lower,
into your genitals, as if you could breath right into your BALLS.

This may be a challenge for you, because you're not accustomed to
that particular awareness.

You may even experience emotions, or sometimes feelings of shame,
as you start feeling into these areas of your body.

That's a good thing-it means you're going outside of comfort zone
and accessing stuck emotions.

Women Can Feel the Difference

In our XX Intensive weekend courses, we bring in super-aware,
brilliantly articulate women who offer moment-to-moment feedback
about what they're feeling in their bodies as the men in the course
interact with them.

And when chest-breathers start belly-breathing, women who weren't
attracted to them at all suddenly feel excited by the man's new
sense of power.

And when guys breathe all the way into their balls, the women's
responses are even more distinct - they often report getting turned
on, simply by being around guys as they breathe more deeply.

Practice It To Make It a Habit

I had to retrain myself from being a chest-breather to being a balls &
belly-breather... and it made a huge difference in feeling grounded,
centered and powerful with women (especially the ones that I'm
attracted to).

Practice this even when you're NOT around women, until it becomes
second nature to you when you ARE with a woman - in the car,
walking down the street, while eating, in bed at night and in the
morning...

After a couple of weeks, you should find that you're breathing into
your belly without thinking about it.

Now, you may find that when you're with a woman you're seriously
attracted to, your breathing reverts back to the old way.

Even though I typically breathe into my lower body, when I'm with
women I'm attracted to, I suddenly find that my breathing becomes
shallow. If this is the case for you as well, just notice this, and
practice breathing fully and deeply, into your belly and your balls.

We have all KINDS of practical, effective body exercises that will
make a REAL difference in your ability to create primal sexual
attraction and deep connection with women...

Your Guru

MoralEpitome

29-06-2010, 02:15 PM

Need advice from the gurus...know this girl for about 4 months...quite a gem as she does not easily submit to transactional sex...then kinda broke off with her because of this singer....now singer is gone which is good...and this girl also went back for a few weeks...but she was quite sweet and call me to let me know she's going back and today she called me to tell me she's back and wants to meet up with me...problem is...I just managed to know this other girl...and thinks she fairly likes me using bro WB's tactics modified with my own...I managed to get her to kiss me passionately in a secluded corner of a club yesterday...and today i am going there to meet her again...unfortunately previous girl and this other girl both works in the same building and I know I will be caught if I go there to meet either of them....how to solve this problem....i think I have to dump one if I want to go further with either one...it is also not convenient for me to bring them out in public as i do not want to be caught by my oc or her many spies!

DO_YOU_BJ

29-06-2010, 05:59 PM

MoralEpitome

29-06-2010, 10:19 PM

bro, wanna eat scared get caught by this n that.
Time and geographical mgt bro, wats there to need help
you the spender, y give a rats ass on which singer sees u wif who
the only worry for u is ur oc, but if u manage it well, there shud not be anything to worry about

lol....sound advice...anyway i settled it leow....must be fast hand fast leg like you...heard about your new BYee...

DO_YOU_BJ

30-06-2010, 12:14 PM

must be fast hand fast leg like you...heard about your new BYee...

hahah like wats new rite......old one no go new one how to come wor:D

Loving_Dickhead

30-06-2010, 01:26 PM

hahah like wats new rite......old one no go new one how to come wor:D

New ones can be scary... just like my encounter last night with a new bird. :D

.

MoralEpitome

30-06-2010, 09:21 PM

This other girl that i met recently whom I am testing the waters first don't seem to be simple...told me she on student pass but I accidentally saw what I think is a Singapore PR IC...if this is true...is it is likely she either married a Sporean guy before or she worked in Singapore for some time in a proper job?

warbird

02-07-2010, 11:28 AM

l...and thinks she fairly likes me using bro WB's tactics modified with my own...

These are NOT my tactics.

I hv merely posted some strategies n techniques from various gurus, mostly Ang Mo from Gotham country. Need to modify them to suit one's individual needs. The approach for WLs n non-WLs r somewhat different. Asian women n PRCs r again quite different.

Cheers!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

I'm an elementary student of man-woman attraction n RS. I'm searching for the truth n scientific facts...

IMHO, the "secret active ingredient or SAI" in a man that attracts all healthy n mentally normal women/gals, at their subconscious level, is the same for all races: Dominant self mastery/self control.

This trait is manifested in a man's body language which includes his voice, tonality, facial expressions, posture, eye ctc, movements, gestures, animation, etc. This is the first impression that a gal will pick up instantly. Like one guru says, slowness, smoothness n steadiness in all movements n actions, including speech...think 007. His actual words r of minor significance. However, the true test of his self mastery will take time. All women, especially very beautiful ones who hv many suitors, r hard-wired to test n challenge (w/o their own awareness) a man to determine the real depth n width of his self mastery. How much of the SAI does he hv? Is he a real man or a fake? His character n personality r part of it n, most importantly, how he reacts n responds to adverse n stressful situations r decisive in whether he is the rare man w/ mega-ton SAI.:cool:

When a very beautiful woman knows that u hv more SAI than anyone else she has ever met, she will go to bed w/ u. Period. Everything else is of secondary importance. Next will be an equally big challenge, hehehe. To keep her, supposing she is really worth it, u still need to give her COS regularly...;)

The above is my personal opinion n I could be dead wrong.

Dissenting views n criticisms r welcome!

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

02-07-2010, 01:37 PM

Men are attracted by looks...Women are attracted by Power and Influence...as well as humour and charisma.

warbird

04-07-2010, 11:16 AM

Men are attracted by looks...Women are attracted by Power and Influence...as well as humour and charisma.

Hi Bro MP.

Ths for ur insight.

Cheers!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good morning!

I hv been to LV rarely these days bcos my several groups of young frens prefer CI n elsewhere. They dun like the rms there! But I care little for the rms or ambience as my sole interest is finding gals of my type...

Personally I like LV a lot n hv had good "luck" there.

Of the 6-7 gals I like very much in the last 1 1/2 yrs, 2 are from LV. And I spotted these 2 by myself in early Jan, all within a 15-min time span. I hv detailed my encounter w/ them in my other thread "How to pick up..." I kept one for 2 1 /2 months. She fell in love w/ a fellow 20 yo student from her hometown while I was in Gotham City. She turned 19 only recently. They hv my sincerest blessings. I hope they will get married n stay until 白头皆老。She is my new avatar. The other is a 23 yo ex-singer who will be coming shortly to be w/ me on a long term basis. I hv another gal I met elsewhere that I'll "take care of" for at least a yr. I would like to dispel any notion that I keep gals for short-term only.

Nowadays it requires several outings for me just to pick up one gal whose outward appearance is mildly interesting. We men r most attracted to looks n therefore it's the prerequisite for me before taking any action. Then I need to get to know her n deepen the rapport. Assuming that everything goes well for both of us n she is the right type of gal, I may then pop the question. If the terms r mutually acceptable, there may still be many surprises when she reveals her naked body...not the least of which is the appearance of her abalone n its tightness, wetness n responsiveness, etc.;)

Recently, I was at a high-end joint n I met a gal in the hallway n got her assigned no. She was already booked. The mummy was able to get her HP for me n I'll see her soon. I only wanted her to sit w/ me that nite. Some bros were puzzled as there were many other gals there.

The reason is that I only desire a particular type of gal. Now facial beauty is very subjective n I shall not discuss it. But more importantly, I only want to make love to a gal w/ a particular head/body/limbs proportions. I often lower my standards if I merely want to fxk her.

I hv seen many PRC gals in SIN n my particular type of gal is getting harder to find. I guess I may hv to move to PRC sooner...

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

04-07-2010, 12:03 PM

R u married bro WB....can share insights on how to BY girls and get away with it with OC? This would be interesting extention of your topic

chenzong

04-07-2010, 03:22 PM

I hv seen many PRC gals in SIN n my particular type of gal is getting harder to find. I guess I may hv to move to PRC sooner...

Shanghai beckons! Expensive city though.

MoralEpitome

04-07-2010, 05:34 PM

Shanghai beckons! Expensive city though.

What's good in Shanghai...I went with my oc last year...and well you are right to say that it's not cheap..went to this club played some pool and drinks and it was 1000 rmb already... how's the nightclub scene there? Any reccomendation?

chenzong

04-07-2010, 10:12 PM

What's good in Shanghai...I went with my oc last year...and well you are right to say that it's not cheap..went to this club played some pool and drinks and it was 1000 rmb already... how's the nightclub scene there? Any reccomendation?

If it is whisky/brandy you are taking, RMB1000 is no big deal here in Shanghai. I go to hfjs here in Shanghai, so don't ask me about other nightclubs.

GoGoGo

04-07-2010, 11:47 PM

If it is whisky/brandy you are taking, RMB1000 is no big deal here in Shanghai. I go to hfjs here in Shanghai, so don't ask me about other nightclubs.

And the minimum spending for room easily RMB5k...

warbird

05-07-2010, 10:24 AM

R u married bro WB....can share insights on how to BY girls and get away with it with OC? This would be interesting extention of your topic

Hi Bro MP,

I do hv a family but they spend most of their time in Gotham City which happens to be my legal domicile.

When my family is in town, my activities w/ my BAO-ees r greatly curtailed. This is very stressful n undesirable for my RS w/ them.

For example, although I kept KK for 2 nearly 2 1/2 months, my family was here during 70% of that time. Very unsatisfactory as my alternate-day sessions w/ her were more like quickies. She had to carry a box of 003 n took taxi all over the city to meet me, often during her school hrs. Sometimes we couldn't even eat dinner together. She was displeased n often complained abt it. Of the remaining 30% of "free" time, I had to divide between her n my "niece" BB...

I may hv to take up a new hobby n/or join some clubs as alibis for spending lots of time outside, especially at night. Finding some part-time work is also a good idea.

I think my OC is suspicious of my unusual activities. But I think she is smart enuff to ignore it.

SIN is such a very small place. I hv seen my frens/relatives on several occasions in Bugis, Chinatown n along Orchard Rd while I was w/ a very young woman. Not sure if they hv seen me. I now never hold a gal's hand in public n always walk behind her...

IMHO, the best thing to do is to be upfront ur OC n get her tacit approval. It could be easier for me as I'm already an ah pek n my OC is not young. But it could be more difficult for young bros who r in their 20s or 30s. Unless u hv dominant self mastery which may make it iimpossible for ur OC to leave u.;)

I hope married bros here could also enlighten us on how to "get away w/ it."

Cheers!

Shanghai beckons! Expensive city though.
And the minimum spending for room easily RMB5k...

Hi Bro chenzong,

SIN is still more expensive then SH. For the same money spent, I expect to get a higher quality gal of my type in SH.

I heard 天地人间 in Beijing hv the most beautiful gals. Any clubs in SH to compete w/ it?

Yes, I must visit u in SH. I'm thinking of finding some uni gals in PRC n bringing a couple back for 2 months at a time. My agent says it can be arranged easily. Primary school teachers would be great too, hehehe.

Cheers!

And the minimum spending for room easily RMB5k...

Hi Bro GoGoGo,

Long time no see. Are u currently in SIN?

Be good,

Bro WB

warbird

05-07-2010, 11:50 AM

Good morning!

I like to make a confession. I used to be a perfectionist n I was neither satisfied w/ my self nor my own achievements. As for gals, they all hv many flaws n I hv NEVER fallen in love w/ anyone. Getting KC-ed yes, but never in love. I'm too rational, logical n calculating to fall for anyone. Not sure if it's good or bad.

Even my KC for anyone has been quite feeble. All it takes is another pussy which is even closer to my particular type n I'll forget abt the old one immediately.

I know pursuing my outer purpose will never give me real n sustained happiness. I do it for fun n adventure, completely detached to its outcomes. Only being my true self n having dominant self mastery/self control of my emotions will give me real n everlasting happiness. The only thing I can control r my own emotions, whereas external events n people r largely out of my control n it's an exercise in futility to attempt to do so. Living in the eternal present moment is the way to go.

A guru wrote the following:

.................................................. .................................................. ......Happiness is never the events, people, things, situations or circumstances in your life, but rather
how you feel, your emotions, during or in relation to those events.
This is good news! It means that you do not have to control events in order to be happy; you only
have to control your emotions.
This too is great news because you will never have much control over most of the events in your life;
while you can learn to control your emotions perfectly. You can learn to eliminate all negative
emotions and to maintain yourself in positive emotions all the time. That, remember, is precisely our
definition of Happiness: all the time, no matter what.
If you are letting your emotions be affected by what happens; if you are letting your happiness
depend on external events and circumstances; you will never experience much. You will never have
much control over what other people say and do, nor over many of the events that occur in the
“parade of events” that is Life.
I am not saying that this state of no negative emotions and positive emotion all the time is quick and
easy to achieve. It will require your effort, but it can be achieved. Controlling the external world
can not.
That you can learn to control your emotions perfectly means that the happiness you seek (remember
your happiness is the ultimate motivation of all that you do, of your entire life) is not only within
your reach; it is parked in your hands waiting for you to start it up.
If you are seeking happiness by any other route other than learning to control your emotions, you are
wasting your time. Look at life. You will see a plethora of people who have achieved “fame and
fortune,” who “have it all,” and are intensely unhappy. The movie, the rock music and the sports
scenes are full of such people: high success, and high neurosis and unhappiness. Nothing outside of
you can ever assure your happiness.
Fortunately, you need nothing outside of your Self to achieve happiness. You were designed and
manufactured with everything necessary built in.
5 Events: in the future, I will use the word “event” to include any change in anything within your perception: any
occurrence, any arrival, departure, movement, or action of any person or thing in your life.............................................. .....................................

Excellent advice!

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Lets get back to something more mundane, shall we? How abt body proportions? I'm buying prime USDA meat? Hahaha...;)

Yes, Despite my recent "discovery of my inner purpose" I'll still keep searching for gals w/ my particular head/body/limbs proportions who r chio to ME. An example of the particular portions I like:

http://www.badongo.com/t/800/9856878

Same gal as my avatar. Notice her long legs n relatively long, slender arms, w/ small bony frame n small wrists. Here we get a hint of her natural D breasts n shapely, perky butt. Strangely, her legs n thighs r not as slender, although still acceptable. Her fingers r short for her height of 170cm n her pussy is also tight n short. Not sure if this relation of finger length to pussy size is consistent for most gals. Any comments?

http://www.badongo.com/t/800/9856881

Same gal. See how long n slender r her upper n forearms. Very tiny wrists too. I guess ancient Chinese crave tiny feet, whereas I crave long, slender arms.

Only the ex-LV singer has equally long n slender arms. Also more slender legs n thighs (a plus) but smaller boobs.

BTW, this particular physical trait is only one feature that turns me on. There r many others (a pink pussy is another), but I could NEVER find more than a few of them in the same gal. Even 3-4 would be sufficient. Life is never perfect, ya?

Cheers!

Bro WB

besafe

05-07-2010, 08:26 PM

MoralEpitome

05-07-2010, 09:18 PM

And the minimum spending for room easily RMB5k...

I meant that time I just played pool for 1 hr and drink 2 cocktails...like martini with my oc....and the bill is $1000 rmb, not referring to opening bottle or what...but I can't remember what's the name of the place except that place is for expats one...

MoralEpitome

05-07-2010, 09:25 PM

Thanks Bro WB for your insights....yup...i think it's the smart thing to keep the money in your single name hor...that's why recently I sold away some assets which I put her name but she did not come out any money with....I decided to sell it off becos I felt really insecure about it and the amount of money can easily BY a girl for 2 to 3 years... i think end of the day must protect yourself... it's not that I don't love my OC but she can be tempermental at times and it's better to be in control than be controlled... but i am very careful nowadays as previously been caught before... lots of my frens keep two hps but i don't... living dangerous... anyway reccomended for a good hp with a good password function?

Loving_Dickhead

06-07-2010, 10:41 AM

anyway reccomended for a good hp with a good password function?

Nokia E71 or E72 ... all good. Plus the entire N Series for Nokia.
Apple 3GS and 4 all good too.

Have not tired any other brands though. :D

BTW, just dumped a singer recently... and days prior to the dumping, she has been calling my handphone or sms-ing multi times @ most jialat timing of the day. KNN - Siao Char bo!!! Heng ah, she only has my number that is specifically used for cheonging else sure die cock-standing. Hahaha...

Got 3 women in my life now, and my wife knows about my No2 women (officially open secret!), supports it but as for No3 (errr... ahem!), she not yet in the light manz, if that exposed now... me confirm tio hammered first for doing one too many lor... Lolz.

My official No2 knows my secretive No3 ... so my link between all my women is No2 and she is a very smart woman. That's my secret! Ask bros WB, Marc5 & DYBJ, they have met my official No2. Sad thing is that she is now back to China to take care of some family matters .... :( lesser excuse now to stay out late or over-night. Haiz...

Best
LDH :D

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Loving_Dickhead

06-07-2010, 10:45 AM

I think my OC is suspicious of my unusual activities. But I think she is smart enuff to ignore it.

I hope married bros here could also enlighten us on how to "get away w/ it."

Bro WB

For me, my wife and I used to go through a very very bad patch, nearly the big D! Finally we stayed together for the sake of the family, assets, face-value and KIDS.

Now its working out very well, Wifey No1 knows about my offical No2 and they get along harmoniously. I have other women and No2 knows about them... she actually helps to facilitates my excuses or get-away plan from her 大姐 aka my wifey. :D

Bro WB - you have seen my No2 yar... and also witness how she manages my other out-of-the-lights women.

kekeke...
LDH :D

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warbird

06-07-2010, 10:50 AM

Wow.. Brother WB.. you really have an eye for women !

Your girl in the avatar have a mixture of looks - of HK actress Christy Chung and Taiwan Actress Lin Yi Cheng.
You are so fortunate to have chio girls and of course their juicy pussies.

Oh BTW, the 2 better Joints in SHA will be Tian Shang Ren Jian and Jing Chang Chang.

Take Care.

Hi bro besafe,

Ths for the info.

Me fortunate? Not really. Even though I'm certain they r exclusive to me when I keep them, they r all WLs.

The pic in my avatar is a studio shot n the gal looks less attractive, though much younger n more innocent when she goes to school w/ satchel on her back.

Cheers!

Thanks Bro WB for your insights....yup...i think it's the smart thing to keep the money in your single name hor...that's why recently I sold away some assets which I put her name but she did not come out any money with....I decided to sell it off becos I felt really insecure about it and the amount of money can easily BY a girl for 2 to 3 years... i think end of the day must protect yourself... it's not that I don't love my OC but she can be tempermental at times and it's better to be in control than be controlled... but i am very careful nowadays as previously been caught before... lots of my frens keep two hps but i don't... living dangerous... anyway reccomended for a good hp with a good password function?

Hi bro MP,

It's prudent to keep some assets only in ur name. It's also a good idea to hv a "secret" fund for BY-ing gals.

I hv 3 HPs n they r protected by password. I like Nokia phones.

Cheers!

Bro WB

warbird

06-07-2010, 11:00 AM

Nokia E71 or E72 ... all good.........

BTW, just dumped a singer recently... and days prior to the dumping, she has been calling my handphone or sms-ing multi times @ most jialat timing of the day. KNN - Siao Char bo!!! Heng ah, she only has my number that is specifically used for cheonging else sure die cock-standing. Hahaha...

Got 3 women in my life now, and my wife knows about my No2 women (officially open secret!), supports it but as for No3 (errr... ahem!), she not yet in the light manz, if that exposed now... me confirm tio hammered first for doing one too many lor... Lolz.

My official No2 knows my secretive No3 ... so my link between all my women is No2 and she is a very smart woman. That's my secret! Ask bros WB, Marc5 & DYBJ, they have met my official No2. Sad thing is that she is now back to China to take care of some family matters ...

For me, my wife and I used to go through a very very bad patch, nearly the big D! Finally we stayed together for the sake of the family, assets, face-value and KIDS.

Now its working out very well, Wifey No1 knows about my offical No2 and they get along harmoniously.......
Bro WB - you have seen my No2 yar... and also witness how she manages my other out-of-the-lights women........

Hi Bro LDH,

You're amazing!

When will ur No2 woman be back? I think she is like an er nai to u...

Please share some of ur strategies w/ us here.

Cheers!

Bro WB

grouchycabi

06-07-2010, 11:09 AM

Loving_Dickhead

06-07-2010, 11:42 AM

Hi Bro LDH,

You're amazing!

When will ur No2 woman be back? I think she is like an er nai to u...

Please share some of ur strategies w/ us here.

Cheers!

Bro WB

No2 will be back early Sep10 or late Aug10. :D
She has went thru' a lot to gain this status... i really meant the going over the last 8 months were really tough for her. She passed and passed it very well.

I have no strategies just very basic instincts of the primal past... women must always be submissive to their men. When my woman tries to lord over me, I dump her! When my woman raise her voice at me, I slap her. Disobedience will not be tolerated, submission will be honoured. I make my women want me more than I want them. Grind into my head everyday that I do NOT need women as there are plenty more out there. When I am with my women, I make them top of the world if they do my bidding. Iwill send them to living hell if they do so otherwise.

Moden days women have too many an enpowerment; status, equality, job security (laws protection) etc etc but as each generation progresses, these women wanted more and more. Why are we men be allowed to be pushed to the corner when these women should be sucking our cocks and pleasing us? Bro WB, I do not want to trumpet anything or take away anything from the women of this pathetic generation, but you and many other bros have cheong with me - you have seen my treatment of my women around me. You have also seen bros Justime & DYBJ in action. Live actions are better than any gurus' hand written so-called strategies. Some are good textbook readings but do not follow blindly though. Have fun.

Best,
LDH :D

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Loving_Dickhead

06-07-2010, 11:45 AM

It is well and good to have a password protected Hp. But what would you do if your OC demands that you unlock it and show her the contents, ie your SMS messages to prove your innocence? What is the best way to get out of such a potentially explosive situation?

For me, my OC dares not make such requests.

For me other like-minded friends, they leave their other handphone in their car. :D

Best
LDH

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chenzong

06-07-2010, 01:07 PM

SIN is still more expensive then SH. For the same money spent, I expect to get a higher quality gal of my type in SH.

Indeed it is, but the gap is closing. And I do agree - the women here are really prettier, even compared to the Chinese ones that 猛龙过江 over to Singapore.

I heard 天地人间 in Beijing hv the most beautiful gals. Any clubs in SH to compete w/ it?

Should be 天上人间, the club that was recently raided. Very expensive place, only for the really upper class, with girls to match.

Yes, I must visit u in SH. I'm thinking of finding some uni gals in PRC n bringing a couple back for 2 months at a time. My agent says it can be arranged easily. Primary school teachers would be great too, hehehe.

Hahaha, you never give up on the primary school teachers, don't you? How about pre-school teachers? I have a contact, ex-kindergarten teacher turned KTV girl (she earns in one night's tips what she earned in a month as a teacher, poor thing), if you are interested. I have not kept in touch with her though and she is not your "body-type" too (she's fleshy and not tall).

chenzong

06-07-2010, 01:08 PM

I meant that time I just played pool for 1 hr and drink 2 cocktails...like martini with my oc....and the bill is $1000 rmb, not referring to opening bottle or what...but I can't remember what's the name of the place except that place is for expats one...

I suspect you have been had. Even expats bars cannot be that expensive. Two cocktails in expat bars should set you back about RMB500-600 at most, not 1000. But what do I know? I don't frequent expat bars.

chenzong

06-07-2010, 01:19 PM

I have no strategies just very basic instincts of the primal past... women must always be submissive to their men. When my woman tries to lord over me, I dump her! When my woman raise her voice at me, I slap her. Disobedience will not be tolerated, submission will be honoured. I make my women want me more than I want them. Grind into my head everyday that I do NOT need women as there are plenty more out there. When I am with my women, I make them top of the world if they do my bidding. Iwill send them to living hell if they do so otherwise.

Unlike you, I do not believe in hitting women. Maybe it is just me. But like you, I do not want to do a double-life thing with the women around me.

My wife knows me very well. I do not take to blackmail and threats very well, and cannot be made to do what I do not want to do. I have made it very clear to my wife one thing - she cannot stop what I want to do, simple as that.

I do not password protect my phone or computer - she has total access to them, but has yet (for our past 15 years of marriage) to use that "right" I have given to her. She knows I have plenty of female friends outside, some of them singers from the hfjs I frequent, some of them KTV girls I got to know. Heck, I have even taken her to an hfj I frequented (before it closed down).

On the other hand, she is also very clear that I am not interested in sleeping with other women (no, this has nothing to do with me being a saint, it's just my personal preference).

Perhaps the stakes may change if I become someone who sleeps around, I don't know, but for now my wife is happy with how things are and do not question my activities - and she needs not, because I tell her frankly that I am going to a KTV (and she knows there are girls there), to an hfj, to dinner with a singer, etc.

Ultimately, it is like what Bro LDH said, women has to be submissive to their men. I would rather let go of the relationship if my woman cannot take it.

MoralEpitome

06-07-2010, 02:18 PM

Loving_Dickhead

06-07-2010, 02:37 PM

Bro LDH...you look so young and already have 3 women!...indeed a powerful jedi of our time!....is the singer you dump the opposite of 321? hmmm... i dun know because i deliberately leave the bloody place by 830 now....and I finally persuaded this new target to submit to me! hehehe....nice feeling because while I do not short change her it's not just about money....

I will PM you who I dumped recently... :D
Good luck to your new conquest, I am sure you will charm her and bring her to her kneels. Hee hee.

As for the getting around OC part...wow...insightful from all of you... I am not as extreme as bro BDH...but after reading the thread...realised one thing....it's impt to be as desirable guy as possible... if you are rich and powerful and takes care of your woman...even if they don't accept that you can play the field sometimes...it's their loss if they want to leave you...I will try my best to reach this level...hahaha

I do not think I am extreme, its just that guys have softened over the years. I am just going back to the years of the primal past.

Most, if not all of my women know when I am going to blow my top and they will not cross the line. I have only slapped one women in my life thus far and she is not even worth mentioning.

Guys have to think why over the years, we have conceded our territories in our house, in our lives and in economic placings to the women. I still believe women should remain indoors or under the shelter of their men.

To me; if any woman wants to be respected by me, they better be a real woman by standard i.e. gentle and submissive. Be a women of the glorious past where the big D is not as rampant as the current days.

Best,
LDH :D

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MoralEpitome

06-07-2010, 03:02 PM

That's the problem with Singapore Girls,they think they are highly educated, earn alot, wants the best for themselves but unwilling to sacrifice...want the tall dark handsome and rich and capable men...but if you can find a man like that...do you think that he can stay true to one women when the world's his oyster?

snooker

06-07-2010, 04:01 PM

MoralEpitome

06-07-2010, 08:38 PM

Let them dream on bro, they will never learn/ choose to live in a fantasy..:D

Seriously it's tough la....how much does the average man earns in Singapore....about 5K....this is not even to give them the 5 Cs....Condo installment about 2500 at least, car 1300 a mth...other expenses?... Gucci LV Chanel? some wan hermes leow....

snooker

07-07-2010, 05:34 AM

Seriously it's tough la....how much does the average man earns in Singapore....about 5K....this is not even to give them the 5 Cs....Condo installment about 2500 at least, car 1300 a mth...other expenses?... Gucci LV Chanel? some wan hermes leow....

That is why more n more men going for foreign wife..my friend's thai wife only need $500 a month for her allowance. no LV, Gucciu and happy with SBS bus + hdb flat:p

yangguo

07-07-2010, 06:43 AM

Most, if not all of my women know when I am going to blow my top and they will not cross the line. I have only slapped one women in my life thus far and she is not even worth mentioning.

I strongly disagree with you.

No matter how unreasonable the women are, we should refrain from using violence on them.

If you are not unhappy with her, sort it out verbally. If she is still not willing to listen to you, just dump her.

DO_YOU_BJ

07-07-2010, 09:58 AM

I strongly disagree with you.

No matter how unreasonable the women are, we should refrain from using violence on them.

If you are not unhappy with her, sort it out verbally. If she is still not willing to listen to you, just dump her.

Bro Yangguo, what you say is absolutely not right nor wrong.
Remember this, we r toking about WLs here.
1stly, it's norm in PRC for men to hit women. It's as good as culture from the cities to the rural dwellers.
Now, we in sillypore, have been termed as "NICE MEN" by many of there WLs, thus, how many have been lied outright to, duped and list goes on & on and they know, they'll get away scott free!!!!!!!!!

I agree wif bro LDH's approach but not as a free flowing wacker, only if the other party has crossed the line.
I do not advocate violence, but like i've posted in another thread before, some bitches do deserve a good whacking!

Loving_Dickhead

07-07-2010, 10:25 AM

I strongly disagree with you.

No matter how unreasonable the women are, we should refrain from using violence on them.

If you are not unhappy with her, sort it out verbally. If she is still not willing to listen to you, just dump her.

I am for agreeing to disagree in forums and fully respect your views above. My conquests are visible to many bros present in this forum and proven in actions worthy. I reiterate that I have only slapped ONE woman in my entire life and its in the presence of some bros and my 2 wives. They know the story, do you? :D

I also do not need an answer from you regarding the below, you know yourself best prior to your above post.

1. Do you think women and made equal to men?
2. If they are, why is there a Woman Charter to PROTECT them so that the 'weak' gets protected and subsequently equal [or/ fair] treatment?
3. Are you happy with your women? Do you get what you need (not want hor) from them?
4. Are you happy with your life?

Once again, no answer needed.

Think once more; women = domestic partner. Read the key word again.
Sexual discrimination + Equal pay = context is women and their fair employment in many parts of the world. WHY?
Matrimonial Laws / Woman's Charter enforcement - what will you be during a bitter D... even a timely D? What will you get vs what CAN you lose?

Cheers,
LDH :)

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warbird

07-07-2010, 10:46 AM

Good morning!

I like to express my gratitude to every bro who has posted in this thread over the last 1 yr. You hv made my day! I hv learned a lot from ur posts. It has been fun...pls keep them coming (no pun intended).

Actually, I hv only picked up a handful of gals outside KTV, whereas I hv picked up many gals, outside the rooms but INSIDE the joints, sometimes as they were exiting the lift, hehehe.

Ths again!

Bro WB

No2 will be back early Sep10 or late Aug10. :D
She has went thru' a lot to gain this status... i really meant the going over the last 8 months were really tough for her. She passed and passed it very well.

I have no strategies just very basic instincts of the primal past... women must always be submissive to their men. When my woman tries to lord over me, I dump her! ..........

Moden days women have too many an enpowerment; status, equality, job security (laws protection) etc etc but as each generation progresses, these women wanted more and more. Why are we men be allowed to be pushed to the corner when these women should be sucking our cocks and pleasing us? Bro WB, I do not want to trumpet anything or take away anything from the women of this pathetic generation, but you and many other bros have cheong with me - you have seen my treatment of my women around me. You have also seen bros Justime & DYBJ in action.........................

Hi bro LDH,

Your women r submissive n docile in ur presence....just like women had been for >10,000 yrs, until recently...

We men must be dominant n our women submissive. It's counter-intuitive but they r attracted to dominant men w/ formidable self mastery/self control.

Cheers!

Indeed it is, but the gap is closing. And I do agree - the women here are really prettier, even compared to the Chinese ones that 猛龙过江 over to Singapore.

Should be 天上人间, the club that was recently raided. Very expensive place, only for the really upper class, with girls to match.

Hahaha, you never give up on the primary school teachers, don't you? How about pre-school teachers? I have a contact, ex-kindergarten teacher turned KTV girl (she earns in one night's tips what she earned in a month as a teacher, poor thing), if you are interested. I have not kept in touch with her though and she is not your "body-type" too (she's fleshy and not tall).

Hi bro chenzong,

Ths for the info...

It's worth taking a look. I hv been attracted to gals who r not my usual body type if she has other good qualities...short n slightly fleshy ok if it's proportionate.

Unlike you, I do not believe in hitting women. Maybe it is just me. But like you, I do not want to do a double-life thing with the women around me.

My wife knows me very well......................

Ultimately, it is like what Bro LDH said, women has to be submissive to their men. I would rather let go of the relationship if my woman cannot take it.

You hv a very trusting RS w/ ur OC...

I strongly disagree with you.

No matter how unreasonable the women are, we should refrain from using violence on them.

If you are not unhappy with her, sort it out verbally. If she is still not willing to listen to you, just dump her.

I hv never hit anyone in my entire life. I prefer to use other measures to right a wrong, hehehe.;)

Bro Yangguo, what you say is absolutely not right nor wrong.
Remember this, we r toking about WLs here.
1stly, it's norm in PRC for men to hit women. It's as good as culture from the cities to the rural dwellers.
Now, we in sillypore, have been termed as "NICE MEN" by many of there WLs, thus, how many have been lied outright to, duped and list goes on & on and they know, they'll get away scott free!!!!!!!!!

I agree wif bro LDH's approach but not as a free flowing wacker, only if the other party has crossed the line.
I do not advocate violence, but like i've posted in another thread before, some bitches do deserve a good whacking!

Hi Mr. Austin,

You're spot on!

Sillypore has become westernized w/ "western values" n many men suffer from "Nice Guy Syndrome." Many of us r "nice" even to WLs! That has been my no1 problem in the past.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Loving_Dickhead

07-07-2010, 04:18 PM

Bro Yangguo, what you say is absolutely not right nor wrong.
Remember this, we r toking about WLs here.
1stly, it's norm in PRC for men to hit women. It's as good as culture from the cities to the rural dwellers.
Now, we in sillypore, have been termed as "NICE MEN" by many of there WLs, thus, how many have been lied outright to, duped and list goes on & on and they know, they'll get away scott free!!!!!!!!!

I agree wif bro LDH's approach but not as a free flowing wacker, only if the other party has crossed the line.
I do not advocate violence, but like i've posted in another thread before, some bitches do deserve a good whacking!

Hee hee, even if I do not slap her, my wife would have done so. :D
What a bitch! Think about it also damn tulan ...

LDH...

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情感王子

07-07-2010, 04:31 PM

Sillypore has become westernized w/ "western values" n many men suffer from "Nice Guy Syndrome." Many of us r "nice" even to WLs! That has been my no1 problem in the past.

We are nice to WL becoz we want to get free/budget farking session in return
:)

tanterry

07-07-2010, 08:38 PM

BTW, just dumped a singer recently... and days prior to the dumping, she has been calling my handphone or sms-ing multi times @ most jialat timing of the day. KNN - Siao Char bo!!! Heng ah, she only has my number that is specifically used for cheonging else sure die cock-standing. Hahaha...

bro, maybe she tio kc by you too much liao. I didn't know she is Siao Char bo lol I thought she was fresh out of school and looks demure

MoralEpitome

07-07-2010, 09:35 PM

We are nice to WL becoz we want to get free/budget farking session in return
:)

There is no free lunch in the world...

MoralEpitome

07-07-2010, 09:37 PM

Everyone have their point of view and approach....just respect each other....what works for a man may not work for another....for example bro bybj and ldh are more clinical in the way they approach women....and maybe myself and bro wb more softhearted...hahahaha

情感王子

07-07-2010, 11:18 PM

There is no free lunch in the world...

Then I would say budget farking session :)

spend a bit of time with the gals, give them bfe, bring them out for meal, sightseeing then end up in hotel some time later. Finish business, send them home.

Some gals will ask for money staight away, give them 50% of what they ask and don't look for them again.

Some gals will 'put long line to hook big fish'. Continue playing. When the 'invoice' come, don't pick up :p

Loving_Dickhead

08-07-2010, 12:21 PM

bro, maybe she tio kc by you too much liao. I didn't know she is Siao Char bo lol I thought she was fresh out of school and looks demure

Where got tio KC one? Actually hor, she is one smart babe acting innocent and dumb - its a kind of protection shell. Very useful leh.

Everyone have their point of view and approach....just respect each other....what works for a man may not work for another....for example bro bybj and ldh are more clinical in the way they approach women....and maybe myself and bro wb more softhearted...hahahaha

Absoultely, agree to disagree.
Maybe I am the arsehole to many PRC gals and WLs, but who cares. I will only be nice to my in-circle women.

Bro, you and WB are the gentlemen of the scene. But any way that points/leads to success is the CORRECT way. :D

Then I would say budget farking session

spend a bit of time with the gals, give them bfe, bring them out for meal, sightseeing then end up in hotel some time later. Finish business, send them home.

Some gals will ask for money staight away, give them 50% of what they ask and don't look for them again.

Some gals will 'put long line to hook big fish'. Continue playing. When the 'invoice' come, don't pick up :p

Smart move mate! :)
Sometimes, 霸王餐 is nice to eat.

Cheers,
LDH :D

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Loving_Dickhead

08-07-2010, 12:31 PM

Hi bro LDH,

Your women r submissive n docile in ur presence....just like women had been for >10,000 yrs, until recently...

We men must be dominant n our women submissive. It's counter-intuitive but they r attracted to dominant men w/ formidable self mastery/self control.

...

Dear bro WB,

You are also a master BY king yourself. I have seen you in actions with your ladies and you are always so kind and gentlemanly. :P Wish I can be this nice ... kekeke.

Well, lets meet this Friday at LV for SH. You know who will be there, LOLz. I am going to introduce to you my new singer GF, height 1.71m, natural c-cupper with flawless skin and a body to go with. Of course, not forgetting to get one of the singers in LV who was my ex-GF to join us in the room for some drinks.

Catch you then!
LDH... :D

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MoralEpitome

08-07-2010, 02:24 PM

Then I would say budget farking session :)

spend a bit of time with the gals, give them bfe, bring them out for meal, sightseeing then end up in hotel some time later. Finish business, send them home.

Some gals will ask for money staight away, give them 50% of what they ask and don't look for them again.

Some gals will 'put long line to hook big fish'. Continue playing. When the 'invoice' come, don't pick up :p

haha....well it's true...i hate girls who quote money straight away....even if fake...still prefer girls who hang long line...recently there was this one girl whom agreed to let me fuck a long time ago....i felt her worth was only $200....but she ask for $300...so we did not transact... and once she ask how much and negotiate, sianz leow... recently she found out that i have been spending thousands on girls...and come and say hi to me...tell me all that crap about how she regret not being my gf...I just smiled and think to myself...too bad...it's your loss not mine...a bit of sincerity goes along way...in any line of work...actually if we all can agree on market rates and mark to value maybe we wun be KC by these girls! hahah

MoralEpitome

08-07-2010, 09:19 PM

Latest update...just finished the deed with my latest target...no mention about money...in fact...i sent her home to change and waited for her in the car so had many chances to run if I wanted to... she was also not in a rush to get it over it which meant chit chating for quite a while to get into the mood...and initially she was also a bit reluctant to do it which means she's not the loose type... all in all...a good conquest...of cos in the end i definitely took good care of her but maybe will move on to the next challenging target...this bhj girl whom I know for the past 5 mths and apparently not been F or BY by any brudder in the past 5 mths....interesting target? how to get into her pants? hehe

warbird

09-07-2010, 12:39 PM

We are nice to WL becoz we want to get free/budget farking session in return
:)

There is no free lunch...

Everyone have their point of view and approach....just respect each other....what works for a man may not work for another....for example bro bybj and ldh are more clinical in the way they approach women....and maybe myself and bro wb more softhearted...hahahaha

Hi Bro ME,

In dealing w/ WLs or any woman, being too softhearted is a fatal flaw.

Dear bro WB,

You are also a master BY king yourself. I have seen you in actions with your ladies and you are always so kind and gentlemanly. :P Wish I can be this nice ... kekeke.

Well, lets meet this Friday at LV for SH. You know who will be there, LOLz. I am going to introduce to you my new singer GF, height 1.71m, natural c-cupper with flawless skin and a body to go with. Of course, not forgetting to get one of the singers in LV who was my ex-GF to join us in the room for some drinks.

Hi Bro LDH,

Ths for ur encouragement.

Congrats to ur new conquest!

Latest update...just finished the deed with my latest target...no mention about money...in fact...i sent her home to change and waited for her in the car so had many chances to run if I wanted to... she was also not in a rush to get it over it which meant chit chating for quite a while to get into the mood...and initially she was also a bit reluctant to do it which means she's not the loose type... all in all...a good conquest...of cos in the end i definitely took good care of her but maybe will move on to the next challenging target...this bhj girl whom I know for the past 5 mths and apparently not been F or BY by any brudder in the past 5 mths....interesting target? how to get into her pants? hehe

Hi Bro EM,

How can u be sure that ur new target has not been BY-ed or fxked by any man in the past 5 months?

Cheers!

Bro WB

yydick

09-07-2010, 01:40 PM

MoralEpitome

09-07-2010, 01:44 PM

Hi Bro EM,

How can u be sure that ur new target has not been BY-ed or fxked by any man in the past 5 months?

Cheers!

Bro WB[/QUOTE]

Can't be 100% sure....but a mixture of observation, tracking and gut feel....and though my brotherly contacts sometimes... I do know quite alot of girls at the DC/CJ/MC complex who have gone out before and is usually not interested by these easy fucks...I suppose it's though my judgement of persons though years of experience in cheonging...but then again like you I had only about 3-4 years of experience so still lots to learn! But that's the fun...life is a learning process!

MoralEpitome

09-07-2010, 01:48 PM

i do the same way tooo bro we r shi xiong di

hmmm.....for me I don't like to drag it on and pull a fast one on the girls by promising them the sky and not giving them anything in the end....or am I too soft hearted? been fucked by my frens for being to nice and generous....

prcsytlover

09-07-2010, 05:32 PM

hmmm.....for me I don't like to drag it on and pull a fast one on the girls by promising them the sky and not giving them anything in the end....or am I too soft hearted? been fucked by my frens for being to nice and generous....
Promising them too much to pull a fast one is taking advantage of the gal liao. But if the gal falls for it, too bad.. but maybe she also trying her luck anyway.

kana fucked for been too nice to gals.. ha ha... take it easy loh...

Like my friend CK say. To be able to give is a gift(能施是福，施比受更有福，更有满足感）. U should be proud of it. Even if she cheat u, take it as a fee for a lesson learn(学无止尽嘛，哈哈）.

there are many ways to cheong.. diff ppl got diff value on certain items.. even for antiques, there will be argument of how much it's value.. not to say gals liao.. 情人眼里出西施。

then comes the most important thing in cheonging.. $$$!!!
diff earning power, diff spending power, diff view of so call value for $$$ gal..
so many diffences..

some ppl pay $100 to fuck a gal.. some pay thousands to fuck a gal also..
to some, a fuck is a fuck.. but there are also some willing to pay more to get that something extra like GFE, freshness, etc etc..

so whose wrong, whose right..
Just diff view on things only loh...

Most important is cheong with ease, happy can liao.. dun make a mess out of ur own life with cheonging.. life is not only black or white.. too many grey areas.. 没有所谓的绝对

I really envy most of u guys out there.. can cheong with huge buget.. bao gals like nobody bussiness.. but too bad.. me poor man.. can only cheong within my own means.. I just have to be contended with what i have loh. :)

chenzong

09-07-2010, 06:10 PM

Hi Bro EM,

How can u be sure that ur new target has not been BY-ed or fxked by any man in the past 5 months?

Cheers!

Bro WB

Just a thought I have - is it that important whether she has? Or does that change the value proposition?

chenzong

09-07-2010, 06:14 PM

Hi bro chenzong,

Ths for the info...

It's worth taking a look. I hv been attracted to gals who r not my usual body type if she has other good qualities...short n slightly fleshy ok if it's proportionate.

You hv a very trusting RS w/ ur OC...

Bro WB

Well, if she is still in the business when you are here, I'd introduce her to you. I have not kept in contact with her ever since that last KTV visit.

My relationship with my OC has gone through 15 years of ups and downs. It is grounded on the fact that I treat her well and pamper her, but at the same time made it clear that she cannot control me at all, due to my character and personality. I'm the type who's 吃软不吃硬。

MoralEpitome

09-07-2010, 09:57 PM

Just a thought I have - is it that important whether she has? Or does that change the value proposition?

Value is relative I guess....just like what my agent says...can you give me sole exclusive or you do multiple listings....after cheonging so long...it's not longer fun to use purely money to give what you want....

Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf... so probably I just keep her as a normal fren on off...as I simply do not have the time to woo her as a gf just to fuck her... unless other brudders have better ideas...

MoralEpitome

09-07-2010, 10:02 PM

I really envy most of u guys out there.. can cheong with huge buget.. bao gals like nobody bussiness.. but too bad.. me poor man.. can only cheong within my own means.. I just have to be contended with what i have loh. :)

Actually I don't cheong with a huge budget....and just go for normal HH deals but even then I think over the past few years it does add up to a big sum...I often read of how many save up to have a million dollars....by not driving car...not wasting money on this and that... to me that's not life... what's the point of earning money if you do not live to enjoy it...but I make it a point to invest and set aside a few k a month...so that I can hopefully be as rich as bro WB at his age and just live off his divendends....Bro WB if you can share with me how's your passive income and how you derive them it would be much appreciated.

roamersg

09-07-2010, 10:36 PM

Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf...

Ha ha, as I just wrote about in TAM thread, exact same thing just happened to me! I plan to continue to see her 'as a friend' as you put it to see if I can wear her down, but she's pretty practical, unlikely to succeed.

MoralEpitome

09-07-2010, 11:31 PM

Ha ha, as I just wrote about in TAM thread, exact same thing just happened to me! I plan to continue to see her 'as a friend' as you put it to see if I can wear her down, but she's pretty practical, unlikely to succeed.

ok la...i send her home a few times before...and I wanted to suggest that I send her to hotel rendevous today instead but don't think she will react well to that...hahaha....this one damn hard...I had to wear her down just to la chee her... she will only let me hug and kiss on the cheeks only... knn... so how to wear her down?....or suggest to her boldly how much she want and up the ante at 1k first? but 1k can fuck other gers ard 4 times....

warbird

11-07-2010, 10:25 AM

Can't be 100% sure....but a mixture of observation, tracking and gut feel....and though my brotherly contacts sometimes... I do know quite alot of girls at the DC/CJ/MC complex who have gone out before and is usually not interested by these easy fucks...I suppose it's though my judgement of persons though years of experience in cheonging...but then again like you I had only about 3-4 years of experience so still lots to learn! But that's the fun...life is a learning process!

You're more experienced as I hv BY-ed gals for only one yr.

Just a thought I have - is it that important whether she has? Or does that change the value proposition?

Not tat important but I may be willing to pay a bit more if I know for sure. We men want gals who r hard to get. What is much more important is tat her pussy is exclusively mine during the BY-ing period.

Well, if she is still in the business when you are here, I'd introduce her to you. I have not kept in contact with her ever since that last KTV visit.

My relationship with my OC has gone through 15 years of ups and downs. It is grounded on the fact that I treat her well and pamper her, but at the same time made it clear that she cannot control me at all, due to my character and personality. I'm the type who's 吃软不吃硬。

Ok, ths.

Actually I don't cheong with a huge budget....and just go for normal HH deals but even then I think over the past few years it does add up to a big sum...I often read of how many save up to have a million dollars....by not driving car...not wasting money on this and that... to me that's not life... what's the point of earning money if you do not live to enjoy it...but I make it a point to invest and set aside a few k a month...so that I can hopefully be as rich as bro WB at his age and just live off his divendends....Bro WB if you can share with me how's your passive income and how you derive them it would be much appreciated.

You're too modest, bro. From wat I hv read in ur posts, you're getting all the pussies u need...wat more could a man want?

I only hv a little money, just enuff to BY some PRC gals. I hv had some winning streaks...for now they r generating enuff passive income for my very modest lifestyle.

"Some examples of passive income are:

* Earnings from a business that does not require direct involvement from the owner or merchant;
* Rent from property;
* Royalties from publishing a book or from licensing a patent or other form of intellectual property;
* Earnings from internet advertisements on websites;
* Residual income, repeated regular income earned by a sales person, generated from the payment of a product or service, that must be renewed on a regular basis in order to continue receiving its benefits;
* Dividend and interest income from owning securities, such as stocks and bonds, is usually referred to as portfolio income, which may or may not be considered a form of passive income.
* Pensions."

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

11-07-2010, 05:00 PM

Always a delight to hear your points of view...btw hope you don't mind me sometimes deviating from the main topic to make it more interesting...

Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...

roamersg

11-07-2010, 08:05 PM

Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...

Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!

MoralEpitome

11-07-2010, 10:18 PM

Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!

Yeah...feel abit tired of all these....time to retire....just go for transactional when i feel like it...focus on more impt things in life...or is this the most impt?

DO_YOU_BJ

12-07-2010, 01:28 AM

Anyway...I followed up with her today...turn on the charms and stories....and tried to ask if she is willing to do it with me... she told me that she has not gone out with anyone and only strictly zuo tai... I asked if she would considered doing it with me but she told me she only have two words... N.O. I told her that's two alphabets and not too words.... but how can I change it to three words Y.E.S then....anyway to cut the long story short...probably she would agree if i take care of her as a bf... so probably I just keep her as a normal fren on off...as I simply do not have the time to woo her as a gf just to fuck her... unless other brudders have better ideas...

do not persue on this target.
By ur comments, its exactly wat they use primarily to earn money.
That is 希望计 N by ur comments above, you already 拥抱希望 Already!
Big no no bro
move on to the next

warbird

12-07-2010, 11:47 AM

Always a delight to hear your points of view..........
Next...do you find that you get sick of the pussies rather fast? at most last 1 month?...is it only natural to change once you get sick of her... or do you dump her once you fucked her?...hahaha.... I find that once I fucked already... usually will get bored and find another one...

Thank u for bringing up the question of passive income. Actually there r many subjects more interesting than pussies, hehehe.

Yes, like many men, I get bored w/ most pussies rather quickly, after only a few sessions or 1 wk.

According to Mr. Austin the Great, the cardinal rule is to pay ur mistress weekly. This rule has saved me some money, although I might hv missed 3 pussies who hv refused to budge. I now tell them, weekly payment or no deal. I explain that I can't move too much cash around w/o detection, not becos I dun trust them, hehehe.

Of the many BAO-ees I hv had, only 2 hv lasted more than 1 month. One for 2 1/2 months (she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student from her hometown) n another for just over 1 month (she returned to PRC).

Ha ha, many bros are like that, fits very well with I think the dominant strategy of SBF bros: "fk and forget." It doesn't work well for me because I prefer a stronger GFE, so I tend to keep a mix of ONS and FB or BY. That said, after X months of a BY I do find the sex getting too familar so that's the time to end it, also why I prefer FB relationships, but most of the more desirable TAM girls won't accept that.

If you get bored easily, then I would skip the hassle and expense of BY and just seek those who are transactional. And I would defintely pass on singers!

I must be a very complex person. I like a variety of pussies n I get bored quickly w/ the same ones, but on the other hand, I enjoy the strong GFE, companionship n KC that r present in a longer term BYs. Of course KC is risky n must be controlled. I also want to improve my skills of giving some of them COS which may be meaningless if it's ST.

Yeah...feel abit tired of all these....time to retire....just go for transactional when i feel like it...focus on more impt things in life...or is this the most impt?

I often feel the same way. I want to hv a steady longer term mistress n eat outside occasionally.

do not persue on this target.
By ur comments, its exactly wat they use primarily to earn money.
That is 希望计 N by ur comments above, you already 拥抱希望 Already!
Big no no bro
move on to the next

Excellent advice from Mr. Austin the Great.

This gal is manipulative n playing hard to get. She may want to be BAO-ed at above market rate. Need to move on to the next target...sometimes it can be difficult if u are enamored w/ her.

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good morning! What a wonderful day!!

A few days ago I saw a gal which reminded me of the following words from esteemed bro Marc5:

"Inside me I constantly feel that there are better ones available, somewhere, somehow. It is a strange response, I know. In many instances, my buddies were astonished by my rejection on the gal because they felt she was just perfect. The feeling of someone else is better is always present. “别人比较好” – sounds familiar?"

In addition to the above sentiment, I like to add that a gal who is very hard to get or who is beyond my reach is most desirable n attractive.

Back to the gal I saw. I first sighted her a couple of wks ago while she was walking w/ her female fren outside the DC complex. She disappeared quickly in the crowd...I had been to KTVs at DC complex a few times but never saw her inside. Nor outside again.

Then I saw her a few days ago. She was w/o make up, wearing a white blouse, jeans n flat shoes, abt 21-22, 170-171 n 53-54 kg, very chio n cute to me, w/ fair skin, proportionate body, beautiful shapely butt. And quite long n slender arms, OMG! She was carrying several plastic bags full of clothings n walking towards a car. She smiled at a middle-aged n very short man waiting beside a small nondescript car. She got inside the car...

I guess she was moving to a new place closer to the man who was obviously her BAO-er.

My frustration is that I never had a chance to meet her n make my offer. It's OK if I pursued her n lost to a better man.

How attractive is she to ME, based solely on her looks n figure? I would gladly forget n give up ALL my former n current BAO-ees if I could keep her as my mistress. And I would keep her for as long as she wants...IMHO, she is worth 30K a month.

Of course, it's entirely possible that she could turn out to be a disappointment if I really got to taste her pussy, for a no. of reasons. It has happened to me before.

It would make me feel much better if the man who picked her up was only a coolie who was taking her to a big towkay, hehehe.

Ths for reading n hv a great day!

Bro WB

roamersg

12-07-2010, 01:38 PM

Of the many BAO-ees I hv had, only 2 hv lasted more than 1 month. One for 2 1/2 months (she fell in love w/ a 20 yo fellow student from her hometown) n another for just over 1 month (she returned to PRC).

have you run into the issue of say LV girls knowing of your 'reputation' of BY'ing a relatively short time, in a way that impedes your pursuit of targets? I presume you run into your ex'es there quite often (or they just see you as they pass by your room, darn those big glass windows!), which has happened to me. I have had some MMs describe other customers and say "oh he wants to be my bf but other girls tell me he'll just say that and dump you after one night", so I presume there is some amount of discussion going on amongst them.

I'm lucky if I can meet my BY as many as 3x in a week, usually it's less, so that's probably one reason I don't get as bored as quickly. The main reason for lasting several months though is the increasing GFE effect one gets over time ... until I want a change of course!

One advantage of a singer gf is that you can hunt at KTVs without her knowing. As I prefer TAM building when she's from there, she basically knows and then one has to set the stage or just deal with the arguing. I know, I know, I need to be more cold-hearted!

MoralEpitome

12-07-2010, 01:40 PM

Good advice from Mr Austins and WB Bro...I must be more ruthless and clinical...afterall...i think end of the day...these girls are out to earn money...I have no met any who would be with you unconditionally....anyone had the experience? would be out of this world I think...

And yes...sometimes I would reject a girl but when I saw her sitting with my frens...suddenly I would wonder how come I rejected her...wasted chance...but sometimes my fren end up don't like so i would fast hand fast leg cobroke over...hahahaha...the pussy is always tighter on the other side!

MoralEpitome

12-07-2010, 01:41 PM

warbird

13-07-2010, 12:28 PM

have you run into the issue of say LV girls knowing of your 'reputation' of BY'ing a relatively short time, in a way that impedes your pursuit of targets?............ I have had some MMs describe other customers and say "oh he wants to be my bf but other girls tell me he'll just say that and dump you after one night", so I presume there is some amount of discussion going on amongst them.
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One advantage of a singer gf is that you can hunt at KTVs without her knowing. As I prefer TAM building when she's from there, she basically knows and then one has to set the stage or just deal with the arguing. I know, I know, I need to be more cold-hearted!

Yes, I hv encountered such a problem. There is a certain mummy who has this erroneous impression that I change BAO-ees every 2 wks n that I like to BY 2-3 gals at the same time. Absolutely not true. I like to set the record straight.

Actually, I hv kept a 3rd gal for 1 full month. She wants to return on student visa n has posted her latest pics on qq to tempt me, hehehe. She is a 20 yo tall SYT w/ long n slender arms, http://www.badongo.com/t/800/9943102 but I'm not sure I want her this visit bcos visa may take 1 month n I'm leaving...besides w/ student visa she can't go back n forth so easily. Maybe get her on my next visit?

BTW, there is a gal finally coming next wk, after much delay, n I hv promised to keep her for 1 yr!! She will be in SIN only when I'm here. She is not young at 23 going on 24, but is 170-171 n 53 kg n yes, very long n slender arms. She has exquisite pussy which can rival my avatar's.

I need to hv more dominant self mastery n learn from Mr. Austin the Great n the young bro LDH n be able to bring my 2 BAO-ees under one roof. It saves lots of time n money...maybe I can even give both of them COS simultaneously w/ one precious ejaculation!

Cheers!

Good advice from Mr Austins and WB Bro...I must be more ruthless and clinical...afterall...i think end of the day...these girls are out to earn money...I have no met any who would be with you unconditionally....anyone had the experience? would be out of this world I think...

And yes...sometimes I would reject a girl but when I saw her sitting with my frens...suddenly I would wonder how come I rejected her...wasted chance...but sometimes my fren end up don't like so i would fast hand fast leg cobroke over...hahahaha...the pussy is always tighter on the other side!

I'm greatly flattered by ur mentioning of Mr Austin n me in the same sentence. But I'm merely an apprentice doing my best to improve my game of BY, whereas Mr. Austin is an accomplished master w/o peers. He is Cao Cao of BY-ing singers, hehehe.

Yeah, the pasture always seems greener on the other side. It has happened to me...

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

13-07-2010, 12:53 PM

Yes, I hv encountered such a problem. There is a certain mummy who has this erroneous impression that I change BAO-ees every 2 wks n that I like to BY 2-3 gals at the same time. Absolutely not true. I like to set the record straight.

Actually, I hv kept a 3rd gal for 1 full month. She wants to return on student visa n has posted her latest pics on qq to tempt me, hehehe. She is a 20 yo tall SYT w/ long n slender arms, http://www.badongo.com/t/800/9943102 but I'm not sure I want her this visit bcos visa may take 1 month n I'm leaving...besides w/ student visa she can't go back n forth so easily. Maybe get her on my next visit?

BTW, there is a gal finally coming next wk, after much delay, n I hv promised to keep her for 1 yr!! She will be in SIN only when I'm here. She is not young at 23 going on 24, but is 170-171 n 53 kg n yes, very long n slender arms. She has exquisite pussy which can rival my avatar's.

I need to hv more dominant self mastery n learn from Mr. Austin the Great n the young bro LDH n be able to bring my 2 BAO-ees under one roof. It saves lots of time n money...maybe I can even give both of them COS simultaneously w/ one precious ejaculation!

Cheers!

I'm greatly flattered by ur mentioning of Mr Austin n me in the same sentence. But I'm merely an apprentice doing my best to improve my game of BY, whereas Mr. Austin is an accomplished master w/o peers. He is Cao Cao of BY-ing singers, hehehe.

Yeah, the pasture always seems greener on the other side. It has happened to me...

Cheers!

Bro WB

While I greatly admire Cao Cao....I think we can learn from his mistakes too....sometimes you need to trust and gain trust...hehehe

MoralEpitome

13-07-2010, 12:55 PM

wow....this 20 year old student looks nice...my type...hahaha

DO_YOU_BJ

14-07-2010, 01:12 PM

As I prefer TAM building when she's from there, she basically knows and then one has to set the stage or just deal with the arguing. I know, I know, I need to be more cold-hearted!

Only 5th floor got stage dude!
No.61???????YUKI?????

roamersg

15-07-2010, 12:07 AM

Only 5th floor got stage dude!
No.61???????YUKI?????

Ha ha, I meant "set the stage" in terms of "preparing things in advance" rather than having her catch me at the KTV building and throwing a fit. Unless she has a singer pass from level 1, 3 or 5, one always run the risk of running into her, even if she usually goes to a particular floor.

Was at LV last week and recognised several singers on the TV, the one you mentioned from DC, another from LP, and a third but forget where. for whatever reason I used to chase the singers mostly from the Middle Road joints, have actually regularly hung one at LV. I've tried to swear off singers so don't expect to hit the LV hall, apart from saying hello again to the singers I knew before. I'll likely go sometime over coming 3 weeks so maybe I'll be hanging some same night as you! cheers

warbird

17-07-2010, 10:51 AM

wow....this 20 year old student looks nice...my type...hahaha

She is a Fujian gal, returning next month on student visa. She is 168 w/o shoes, weigh abt 48-49kg, cute n pretty. Natural B n nice butt. She is a light smoker though. A close fren thought she was the prettiest gal who ever sat w/ me in a KTV.

Want me to intro to u?

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Good morning!

SH gals r reputed to be the most practical n calculating among all the PRCs. They ARE!

A little while ago I saw a gal in the hallway of a KTV n only had time to get her no. She was my type n in the subsequent 2 wks I had called several times to book her n she was either busy or didn't want to work that day.

The other day I exchanged text msg w/ her. She thought I only wanted her pussy for ST n was blunt n stated that: 我不出街的，你不必在我身上浪费时间。。I replied that I was encouraged n pleased that she didn't do ST, hinting that I wanted to BY her.

I called her yesterday n she was friendly.

Me: Are u XX?

She: Yes!

Me: Where r u from?

She: SH, China.

Me: You hv a BF taking care of u?

She: No, I dun hv a BF.

Me: I like to take care of u (even though we had not seen each other more than 30 secs). When I take care of a gal, she doesn't work at all...

She: OK, how will u take care of me? How much will u give me?

Me: I like to know u first n then we can talk.

She: Good! Today I'm looking at several places to move to. Call me................................................ .................................................

Will I BY her? Yes, if her terms r reasonable n if I can confirm that she is indeed my type after seeing her again, otherwise I'll walk away.

Whatever the outcome in this case study, I enjoy negotiating w/ these PRC MMs as it's a good learning experience n part of my training, hehehe.

BTW, this is a gal who rejected my booking her several times n told me not to waste time on her, n now she is willing to discuss being BY-ed!

Frankly, I only hv a vague idea how she looks like. She did appear to be a looker w/ good height, perhaps 168, fair w/ proportionate figure. Nice legs but can't remember seeing her arms.:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

17-07-2010, 03:37 PM

She is a Fujian gal, returning next month on student visa. She is 168 w/o shoes, weigh abt 48-49kg, cute n pretty. Natural B n nice butt. She is a light smoker though. A close fren thought she was the prettiest gal who ever sat w/ me in a KTV.

Want me to intro to u?

Cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good morning!

SH gals r reputed to be the most practical n calculating among all the PRCs. They ARE!

A little while ago I saw a gal in the hallway of a KTV n only had time to get her no. She was my type n in the subsequent 2 wks I had called several times to book her n she was either busy or didn't want to work that day.

The other day I exchanged text msg w/ her. She thought I only wanted her pussy for ST n was blunt n stated that: 我不出街的，你不必在我身上浪费时间。。I replied that I was encouraged n pleased that she didn't do ST, hinting that I wanted to BY her.

I called her yesterday n she was friendly.

Me: Are u XX?

She: Yes!

Me: Where r u from?

She: SH, China.

Me: You hv a BF taking care of u?

She: No, I dun hv a BF.

Me: I like to take care of u (even though we had not seen each other more than 30 secs). When I take care of a gal, she doesn't work at all...

She: OK, how will u take care of me? How much will u give me?

Me: I like to know u first n then we can talk.

She: Good! Today I'm looking at several places to move to. Call me................................................ .................................................

Will I BY her? Yes, if her terms r reasonable n if I can confirm that she is indeed my type after seeing her again, otherwise I'll walk away.

Whatever the outcome in this case study, I enjoy negotiating w/ these PRC MMs as it's a good learning experience n part of my training, hehehe.

BTW, this is a gal who rejected my booking her several times n told me not to waste time on her, n now she is willing to discuss being BY-ed!

Frankly, I only hv a vague idea how she looks like. She did appear to be a looker w/ good height, perhaps 168, fair w/ proportionate figure. Nice legs but can't remember seeing her arms.:p

Cheers!

Bro WB

Sori, what does SH stands for? Pardon my ignorance.

To really know if a girl is worth it, have to meet in the afternoon where you can see clearly...i remembered long ago....I arranged to meet this girl for ST in the afternoon....when I saw her in the afternoon I was totally shocked as she did not look anything like what I saw the previous night...lucky she told me that she needed to urgently to go to ICA so I managed to escape!...however that night she smsed me back....feeling horny and curious I decided to meet her...and she went back to her above average looks!....not easy to find girls with good natural beauty nowadays...

There are many girls who do not want to reduce themselves to ST as they feel cheap about it....even if they are offered $500 they feel that they can earn it back in 1 or 2 days work...they prefer to be BY to feel better about themselves...but my advice to them is...man are fickle...BY often don't last...but of course I don't tell that to my targets....hahahaha

AustinPowers

18-07-2010, 12:15 AM

SH = Shanghai?

i dun think shanghai gals are very pretty.
most of the pretty gals in shanghai are not locals.

Sori, what does SH stands for? Pardon my ignorance.

MoralEpitome

18-07-2010, 01:13 PM

SH = Shanghai?

i dun think shanghai gals are very pretty.
most of the pretty gals in shanghai are not locals.

yup...many girls i know been in shanghai for work or "pleasure" before...but yes SH girls are often very practical type...it's afterall a more modern cosmopolitan city...they are often very smart also...will know what to say to get you to KC them...

virtualman

18-07-2010, 02:31 PM

yup...many girls i know been in shanghai for work or "pleasure" before...but yes SH girls are often very practical type...it's afterall a more modern cosmopolitan city...they are often very smart also...will know what to say to get you to KC them...

bro MoralEpitome,

You are right. I used to have two SH girlfriends before, both are very practical type.

Always asked me to buy expensive gifts for them...

But, both are very pretty like supermodels and KC skills are super...

MoralEpitome

18-07-2010, 06:27 PM

bro MoralEpitome,

You are right. I used to have two SH girlfriends before, both are very practical type.

Always asked me to buy expensive gifts for them...

But, both are very pretty like supermodels and KC skills are super...

haha....one cent one good....at least you get what you see.... SH girls should be good for bros working in Shanghai on Expat's package....15K rmb a month should be enough...just 3k in Sing terms....if i am single I sure move to china

warbird

18-07-2010, 06:47 PM

Sori, what does SH stands for? Pardon my ignorance.

To really know if a girl is worth it, have to meet in the afternoon where you can see clearly...i remembered long ago....I arranged to meet this girl for ST in the afternoon....when I saw her in the afternoon I was totally shocked as she did not look anything like what I saw the previous night.......not easy to find girls with good natural beauty nowadays...

There are many girls who do not want to reduce themselves to ST as they feel cheap about it....even if they are offered $500 they feel that they can earn it back in 1 or 2 days work...they prefer to be BY to feel better about themselves...but my advice to them is...man are fickle...BY often don't last...but of course I don't tell that to my targets....hahahaha

SH = Shanghai?

i dun think shanghai gals are very pretty.
most of the pretty gals in shanghai are not locals.

Hi Bros ME n AP,

Yes, SH = Shanghai

I always try to meet the gal in broad daylight before BY-ing her. But I still hv had my share of surprises as I dun hv X-ray vision, hehehe.

I suspect the prettier SH gals choose to work at other major cities. Your impression may be due to sampling bias.

Perhaps bro chenzong, an "old SH hand," could tell us if SH gals r pretty or not.

bro MoralEpitome,

You are right. I used to have two SH girlfriends before, both are very practical type.

Always asked me to buy expensive gifts for them...

But, both are very pretty like supermodels and KC skills are super...

Yeah, SH gals r very practical. Very pretty like supermodels? Are they both local SH gals?

Cheers!
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Good evening!

I called the SH gal XX again yesterday PM. For the first time she called me X da ge right away. BTW, I hv not seen her again since I met her for perhaps less than 20 secs abt 2 wks ago.

We spoke for quite a while re how I could BY her.

Just like me, she is very practical n frank n calculating. I love negotiating BY w/ her!

She told me approx how much she is earning running KTVs. If she doesn't work at all, she wants X $ a month to be BY-ed by me. She quickly added tat perhaps she should work occasionally n I could pay her less as it might be too much of a financial burden to me. The amt she is asking is the going rate...I actually thought tat she might request for 1.5X the amt, which I was mentally prepared to ante up. Currently her mom is in town. She would call me next wk to meet up to finalize the details.

BTW, she has been here for 2 months. She is trying to apply for a different visa as she intends to start a business in SIN. She wants to quit going to KTVs.

We hardly know each other. She remembers that I'm a white collar type, not a ruffian. All I know abt her is tat she is a looker w/ the type of body proportions that I like. I persisted bcos she is a challenge. She charges 50% higher fees for KTV sessions n I failed to book her several times. She politely asked me to get lost 1 wk ago, but I was undaunted n changed tactics...

Of course I need to do a final inspection of the meat before consummating the deal. Whatever the outcome, this is an interesting n useful learning experience for me.

The most crucial goal for me? Constantly improve my dominant self mastery/self control so that I become completely detached to life's outcomes.

Cheers!

Bro WB

MoralEpitome

18-07-2010, 09:51 PM

Hi Bros ME n AP,

Yes, SH = Shanghai

I always try to meet the gal in broad daylight before BY-ing her. But I still hv had my share of surprises as I dun hv X-ray vision, hehehe.

I suspect the prettier SH gals choose to work at other major cities. Your impression may be due to sampling bias.

Perhaps bro chenzong, an "old SH hand," could tell us if SH gals r pretty or not.

Yeah, SH gals r very practical. Very pretty like supermodels? Are they both local SH gals?

Cheers!
.................................................. .................................................. .......

Good evening!

I called the SH gal XX again yesterday PM. For the first time she called me X da ge right away. BTW, I hv not seen her again since I met her for perhaps less than 20 secs abt 2 wks ago.

We spoke for quite a while re how I could BY her.

Just like me, she is very practical n frank n calculating. I love negotiating BY w/ her!

She told me approx how much she is earning running KTVs. If she doesn't work at all, she wants X $ a month to be BY-ed by me. She quickly added tat perhaps she should work occasionally n I could pay her less as it might be too much of a financial burden to me. The amt she is asking is the going rate...I actually thought tat she might request for 1.5X the amt, which I was mentally prepared to ante up. Currently her mom is in town. She would call me next wk to meet up to finalize the details.

BTW, she has been here for 2 months. She is trying to apply for a different visa as she intends to start a business in SIN. She wants to quit going to KTVs.

We hardly know each other. She remembers that I'm a white collar type, not a ruffian. All I know abt her is tat she is a looker w/ the type of body proportions that I like. I persisted bcos she is a challenge. She charges 50% higher fees for KTV sessions n I failed to book her several times. She politely asked me to get lost 1 wk ago, but I was undaunted n changed tactics...

Of course I need to do a final inspection of the meat before consummating the deal. Whatever the outcome, this is an interesting n useful learning experience for me.

The most crucial goal for me? Constantly improve my dominant self mastery/self control so that I become completely detached to life's outcomes.

Cheers!

Bro WB

Your determination and perseverance is an inspiration to me bro WB...I have to say that you are one of the few persons in SBF that I look up to.:D