Need advice I plan to live with a FL

[sgd1m]

Hi,

I am planning to rent a whole HFB flat nearby GL area so my FL girlfriend can live with me.
Now I'm worried about what if my girl always had to go to work late at night, will the landlord notice and reject us.
If I rent a condo will that be better?

I know it sounds SILLY, believe me I am hoping the girl can marry me some day.
I am ready for serious relationship.

[badboyzbleu]

siao! dun do that! u doing that for free fuck or wat? stupid fool! your FL GF is a china gal? you go sammyboy forum and search for downgrader post and you will know what happened.

[S.B.Y]

Mas sgd1m

I personally would be concerntrating more on your 'relationship' then of the landlords and others

Its noble for what you intend to do but if she is THE one as you mention it just doesn't tally up for no MAS (bro ) here are willing to have their women be exploited nightly by unknown man.

To me its just a kind of free Bonk syndrome (infactuation ) meaning you get free bonks from her to hence the feeling . Correct me if I'm wrong.

If you do truly want to have her as your life partner then it's time you pull her out of the streets and do all your best to make sure she's out of it once and for all. (sorry to other Mas )

Do ponder your next more because there are many elements to analyse physcally and mentally.

May you make the right decision

[sgd1m]

I've searched but didnt find any.
But I think I got your point, I've seen enough similiar stories.
But what Im gonna lose?
Lose some money I dont care, lose a few month time also not a problem.
I can tell myself to quit if I found it impossible to win her heart and marry me.
I've known her for a year at least I can tell if she is realy intend to marry.
I wont continue if there is no marrige comming.

Call me FOOL as you wish, I am only asking some advice for renting an apartment.

[clarence8]

Bro,

Not worth loh .... Don't forget, she is FL .....

[QQBoy]

Bro...how can you love a girl, and still dun feel anyting when other men sleep with her? You sure that is love or lust? Remember, prostitutes have no dignity...they sell their body to make money. Do you think she will marry you when you are not able to pamper her with lots of $$$$? Many sad cases in this forum...you life story will be the same.

[sgd1m]

Bro SBY,

I sure hope she can quit.
I will do what I can to talk her out of the business.
But she is saying she is only giving me a chance to see if we can get along, reluctant to quit as yet.

[yummymocha]

Im pretty sure you would not want to see her working as WL after you both get married and settled. oh, so it is in trial period since she says give u chance to see if can get along. But my question is why eager to get a house?

[Jack_Chen]

is she going to stop FL and get settled?

if she is, do you still need to rent a flat near GL or rather she find a decent job and you all rent a place elsewhere?

you renting a place for her to rest near GL is going to encourage her work.

[sgd1m]

I barely had chance to see her when she is not living with me.
I am hoping this way at least give us more time to be together.

[yangguo]

But she is saying she is only giving me a chance to see if we can get along, reluctant to quit as yet.

Bro, if she is not willing to quit her current job, she is NOT one for you. If she really loves you, she would have considered your feeling. Like bro S.B.Y said, no men in this world would like to see his wife being explored by other men. Pardon me for being biased, i think that she see $$$ more important than love!

Trust my words..

[sgd1m]

is she going to stop FL and get settled?

if she is, do you still need to rent a flat near GL or rather she find a decent job and you all rent a place elsewhere?

you renting a place for her to rest near GL is going to encourage her work.

You are right this is also what I am worried.
If she really quits I will go as far as I can from GL.
I don't want to encourage her, she is not quitting right now anyhow, she doesnt want to take taxi everyday to work.
What to do.

[sgd1m]

Bro, if she is not willing to quit her current job, she is NOT one for you. If she really loves you, she would have considered your feeling. Like bro S.B.Y said, no men in this world would like to see his wife being explored by other men. Pardon me for being biased, i think that she see $$$ more important than love!

Trust my words..

I agree it is quite possible, but I dont give up if I see a small possibility that she really wants to quit she just need the right man.

[Orgasmic]

One of my good buddies from primary school married a viet gal he knew from, a pub in Joo Chiat and he was admanant that this wife is a good wife who is not a FL.

Over the marriage lasting 3 years, she screwed his bank account and credit cards, using up $100,000+ of my friend's fortune and majority of which belonged to his dad.

Then the viet wife simply disappeared back to Vietnam after squezing my friend dry.

Now my friend has a new wife in a PRC chick he knew from geylang and again, she screwed and sucked him dry financially.

After much advice, my friend turned against me and believed in those girls. One night he called me and said he wanted to jump SG river. I said I am busy ( when I was sleeping ) and ignored him totally. I wonder if he did jump!

[KUNTHUNTER666]

TS, wake up your STUPID idea.

[see see only]

I agree it is quite possible, but I dont give up if I see a small possibility that she really wants to quit she just need the right man.

Bro SBY,

I sure hope she can quit.
I will do what I can to talk her out of the business.
But she is saying she is only giving me a chance to see if we can get along, reluctant to quit as yet.

Bro TS,

U sound so determine to move in with her and even marry her :rolleyes:

I wish you luck :) BUT just know when to cut lost if matters are going out of hand ($$$$$????) :D

[see see only]

One of my good buddies from primary school married a viet gal he knew from, a pub in Joo Chiat and he was admanant that this wife is a good wife who is not a FL.

Over the marriage lasting 3 years, she screwed his bank account and credit cards, using up $100,000+ of my friend's fortune and majority of which belonged to his dad.

Then the viet wife simply disappeared back to Vietnam after squezing my friend dry.

Now my friend has a new wife in a PRC chick he knew from geylang and again, she screwed and sucked him dry financially.

After much advice, my friend turned against me and believed in those girls. One night he called me and said he wanted to jump SG river. I said I am busy ( when I was sleeping ) and ignored him totally. I wonder if he did jump!

:rolleyes: Story of the wolf coming si bo?? but just that this time round is the FOX :D

[Michael]

Let me be a bit cruel... Close your eyes and imagine here having sex with other man while you're lying in bed in your new apartment every night when she's "left" for work.

Really dun get it. If you are rich, bao her so she stay with you and quit.

If you are NOT rich, drop the idea.

Love doesnt exist.

HUNGER, PROVERTY does.

[phantomboyz]

Bro TS, u lost virgin to her rite?

[mchnsg]

Bro TS , you must have kena gong tau from her better go temple and pray fast fast . Or go for exorcisim .

[alacrity]

Living off the earnings of a woman is an offence.

[Zakanara0312]

Bro TS, for people from her country, they will try to earn the most $$$ in the shortest time & go back.

Many bros have given a "NO" answer to your intention.

Think again, don't sacrifice the whole forest just because of a tree.

Nice character & personality ---- try Malaysian girls (not FL), they are more down to earth and contended.

Just my 2 cents.

[Zakanara0312]

Bro TS, take control of your emotion, don't let your emotion take control of you.

Below are some rules stated by our Bro AudiA5

"Facts about Chonging:
1. Never get emotionally involved.
2. Know that when the girls touch you all over, she is not been loving, she is treating you as an ATM. She touches you, money comes out.
3. Never make them pregnant. No matter what, use CD.
4. If you can avoid it, stay out of it. Once in it…..it is addictive. You will come back for more
5. Better to pay for your sex than trying to get free rides. You will soon find that the rider refuse to get out.
6. Avoid asking too much detail into the girl’s family. Believe half their stories. Don’t ask why they doing this job. Answer they give is standard…
7. Know that if the girl said you are the best man she comes across, probably she has said this to a dozen men before you.
8. You got the money, you got her attention. You got no money, others got her attention.
9. Her tears will melt your heart. Her sob sob story will make your head (both big and small head) goes round and round.
10. Money can buy sex…..not love.
11. Treat your sex partner as gentlemen, they are working just like you and me.
12. Today, you got money to fuck But when you are sacked, you will be fucked. So, work hard first, before fucking around."


Hope these golden rules will help you.

[BlackerKnighter]

Go ahead lor. Move in with a whore and when u really tio tiao and KCed see if she will move out after she fleece you of ur fortune, feeling and more lor.

If your story is true it is not even new and if you think she is cinderella and you her white knight prince charming sorry leh real life VERY diff from fairy tale you know!??

Tell you real case oso no point one coz people like you will always insist you in control, your case is special, your hooker is special, no one really understand etc etc etc.....

Anyway go ask ur friends or dig up from this section or matters of heart section and learn something. Pays to know what you are up against and what you going into.

But nobody can help you if you choose to shut out everything....

From wat you mention dont even think she lying that much to you yet. You are mainly the one lying to urself. And this one no one can help you until u decide to go take gd look at urself in mirror kind..

Life is short. Dont waste it doing bo liao things.

You enjoy bonking her but why mistake lust for love leh? If you want cough out more money and wk out some arrangement with her. But don't imagine you can buy more than what you pay for lor. This kind of commercial contract oso can call 'love' n 'gf' is really cheapen the concept wor.

You can continue to live in ur fantasy la la land but one thing is for sure ONE DAY soon enough hor you got to wake up one leh.

What then?

You go thru so much only to buy an illusion not even real worth it meh? And believe all of us you move in with a hooker you WILL go thru much one.....

Not say with whore not possible but it is rare (0.01%? probably lower sia..)and circumstance need to be right. Your case I am sorry just probably NOT going to work lor.

Carry on daydreaming but one day reality will still dawn on you. People say better late than never. But really hor the earlier the better lah.

[slider_72]

花不迷人，人自迷。 酒不醉人，人自醉。

Only TS can tell whether he should take the risk with his FL. One thing going for him though is the fact that they have been together for a year already. If she didn't suck him dry (and I mean financially, scrub your filthy minds for those who thought otherwise :D) by now, there is a chance that she sees him more as an emotional support rather than as a walking ATM machine.

Then again, unless we are parties to this relationship, whatever we say is just like farting in the wind.

[King_Kingsley]

love is indeed blind, TS, are you sure this is what you want?

[wanderer23]

But she is saying she is only giving me a chance to see if we can get along, reluctant to quit as yet.

Bro this statement from her can tell you alot already think deeper into this statement and you will have much insight.


I've searched but didnt find any.
But I think I got your point, I've seen enough similiar stories.
But what Im gonna lose?
Lose some money I dont care, lose a few month time also not a problem.
I can tell myself to quit if I found it impossible to win her heart and marry me.
I've known her for a year at least I can tell if she is realy intend to marry.
I wont continue if there is no marrige comming.

Call me FOOL as you wish, I am only asking some advice for renting an apartment.

Since you feel you have nothing much to lose then go ahead just tread carefully when it comes to money.

For the landlord part if you're renting the whole unit i assume the landlord will not be staying there then there should not be any problem in her going out and coming home late.

Unless you're only renting a room with the landlord staying in the unit then yes there could be a potential problem. So find a whole unit which the landlord is not staying.

[aczeta76]

There is not right or wrong.

In every relationship, there are risks.

You may love her today but will you suddenly discover tomorrow that it was not love at all.

Love does not equate condoning her actions but neither does it equate not accepting her actions.

My question is always: Can she stay in SG? Will she like life in SG? Can the both of you survive and satisfy her needs if she quits her "job"...

Love may well exist but so do needs.

If you cannot fufill her needs then what kinda of life are you bringing for her and you?

Sometimes love means doing what you can for her when she is here and help her get a better life (with or without you)

Old words: As long as you are sincere in feelings, do wat you feel is rite and dun think about what the woman is thinking... the world is complicated enuff as it is.

JUST DUN KILL YOURSELF DOING IT.. rem to live some leeway for a life without her... (it may happen)

[kums]

戏子无情，婊子无情。 老兄， 回头是岸啊！

Can u gurantee after staying together with her, you will be able to see her everyday?
And very frankly, 99% of them see only $$$... No $$$ no honey...

And IF she finds out that you are broke, she will tell you she is tired after so many sessions with her customers when you ask for sex.:(

hope the gal you have mention here is belonging to those 1% that $$$ to her is not everything.. You have our blessing.

Are you going to rent a room or the whole appointment? IF the whole, how owner going to find out? I beleive most of the ownerS there already prepared to rent out their place either to club gals or FL.

make sure to check your gal passport.

all the best.:)

[mrmilktooth]

there are better girls to get into a serious r/s than a FL right??

pls reconsider!!

[Bangster]

A few types of people I've observed, live in this world.

There are the 1)Fuckers, the 2)Fucked(s), and the 3)Watchers. Basically it is a 3-tiered hierarchy.

1) The "FUCKER"
This is the type of person at the top of the hierarchy. He is the know-all, the Almighty of the human world. He has seen a lot, been through a lot and learned a tremendous amount of lessons. Life's lessons have moulded him into 1 hard motherfucker. Now, he does not fall easily, if at all. He is the one whom others look up to and seek for advice. He is the one who FUCKS your backside, asking you to wake up your bloody idea.

2) The "FUCKED"
Most of us started out somewhere in life at this stage. We go through numerous experiences before we start to realise what's the real deal. Some of us make it to become the "FUCKER", but still a good many of us do not. The "FUCKED" are at the lowest end of the hierarchy. Until he consciously gives up the label of the "FUCKED", a person will be constantly revolving in the wicked spiral inside the "FUCKED" realm.

3) The "WATCHERS"
These people formed the middle tier of the hierarchy. They are mid-intelligent people. They broke out of being labelled the "FUCKED" one way or another. Now they are wiser, more streetsmart and definitely, more matured. They no longer resort to the ways they once lived because life's lessons got to them and they learned well. While in this tier, these people are usually learning and aspiring to go to the next level, the nirvana in this hierarchy. It is possible that some still fall back to the "FUCKED" tier but I think it should be minimal. People in this tier are an observing lot. They have realised that a big mouth gets them nowhere and so it's better to just shut the fuck up and watch.


Where do you guys think TS fall into?

[pussy_suckling]

wa lau, life is short. u want to stick to one only meh. :D got time , got money, try diff gals lor.. u might not know world coming to end 2012. so bonk all u can bro.

How about going amsterdam bonk together? hehehee

[Cogent]

Bro TS, u lost virgin to her rite?

That's the only reason I can agree with in why you are besotted with her.

Anyway, if you rent a whole flat, how is the landlord going to know bout the comings and goings ? As long as not more than 3 or 4 and not noisy, ppl generally wun care.

[HCKing]

I've searched but didnt find any.
But I think I got your point, I've seen enough similiar stories.
But what Im gonna lose?
Lose some money I dont care, lose a few month time also not a problem.
I can tell myself to quit if I found it impossible to win her heart and marry me.
I've known her for a year at least I can tell if she is realy intend to marry.
I wont continue if there is no marrige comming.
Call me FOOL as you wish, I am only asking some advice for renting an apartment.

hmm u have known her for a year at least and she really intend to get married then y after so long then suddenly so kan cheong abt renting an apartment to stay with her? or issit becos she will be going back soon so.....:p

[walle]

Bro...how can you love a girl, and still dun feel anyting when other men sleep with her? You sure that is love or lust? Remember, prostitutes have no dignity...they sell their body to make money. Do you think she will marry you when you are not able to pamper her with lots of $$$$? Many sad cases in this forum...you life story will be the same.

I fully dun agree to your comments. If prostitutes have no dignity, how about the guys who find them? even worse rite? Who willing to sell their body if have a chance to live normal, ask this questions back to your sisters or lady counterparts. If prostitutes have no dignity, what abt the SG GALS WHO SLEEP AROUND FOR FREE WITH ANG MOHS OR ONS OR LOCALS. HOW ABOUT (OR UR EX WHO FUCK WITH YOU?)GALS WHO FUCK WITH THEIR BOYFRIENDS WITHOUT AN ASSURANCE OF MARRY? SO PLEASE DO NOT LOOK DOWN ON PEOPLE, AT LEAST THEY WORK FOR MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES AND SAD TO SAID SO,they r RICHER than you with they hard earn cash.

TS, I fully support u but PROVIDED SHE REALLY LOVE YOU AND NOT USE YOU AS STEPPING STONE. SO YOU R GAMBLING YOUR MARRIAGE LEH. (find in GL hdb room kinda diffcult, try shophse in lor 25 and above.

[QQBoy]

I fully dun agree to your comments. If prostitutes have no dignity, how about the guys who find them? even worse rite?

Guys who look for prositutes are just being normal. We need to relieve our sexual tension, one way or another, though wife, FB, GF, or whores.


Who willing to sell their body if have a chance to live normal, ask this questions back to your sisters or lady counterparts.


Exactly you hit on the right note. Only girls without dignity will sell their bodies. They don't sell their bodies to live a normal life, they live a luxurious life! A whore in a health centre once told me that she made more than S$10k per month, and owned several apartments in Malaysia. PRC gals in Singapore made even more....a PRC gal working in a high end KTV told me that every month she is able to send back $10k - $15k, not counting the gifts from her boyfriends. I don't know how much a GL whore makes, but definitely not $1k a month like the Malaysian factory workers in Jurong.


If prostitutes have no dignity, what abt the SG GALS WHO SLEEP AROUND FOR FREE WITH ANG MOHS OR ONS OR LOCALS. HOW ABOUT (OR UR EX WHO FUCK WITH YOU?)GALS WHO FUCK WITH THEIR BOYFRIENDS WITHOUT AN ASSURANCE OF MARRY?


I have no issues with sluts that fuck around..at least it is not money that they're going after. They just want to have fun, they enjoy their pussies being licked, and multiple orgasms. Enjoy sex, and sex for money is two different things.


SO PLEASE DO NOT LOOK DOWN ON PEOPLE, AT LEAST THEY WORK FOR MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR FAMILIES AND SAD TO SAID SO,they r RICHER than you with they hard earn cash.


Sorry bro, not all whores use the money on ther families. Some of them use their body earned money to pamper their good-for-nothing boyfriends or husbands. I don't look down on them because they earn more money than me. I look down on them because they have no dignity.


TS, I fully support u but PROVIDED SHE REALLY LOVE YOU AND NOT USE YOU AS STEPPING STONE. SO YOU R GAMBLING YOUR MARRIAGE LEH. (find in GL hdb room kinda diffcult, try shophse in lor 25 and above.

Why you encourage TS to gamble? Remember that he also gambling his life with STD and HIV if she continues to work in GL. Since you are so vocal with my post, maybe you have experience with a FL too?

[xaiverviii]

TS is she reali tt gd?

if she doesnt quit her old ways after u 2 get together, will u pass her contacts to us since u r uncapable of financing her n she wants or needs the $$$

if u cant give her the $$ directly to help her, give the money indirectly by pass bros here her contact.:D

As for hdb, i tink renting a condo is easier....

u dun need advise, u are old enuff to noe wat u are doing...wateva the outcome maybe, post it here in time 2 come....

let us be happy for u or let us have a gd luff @ u... either way, u are contributing to the forum..:D``

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

….I know it sounds SILLY, believe me I am hoping the girl can marry me some day.
I am ready for serious relationship.

…..But what Im gonna lose?
…..
I've known her for a year at least I can tell if she is realy intend to marry.
I wont continue if there is no marrige comming.
Call me FOOL as you wish…..

…..
I sure hope she can quit.
I will do what I can to talk her out of the business.
But she is saying she is only giving me a chance to see if we can get along, reluctant to quit as yet.

I barely had chance to see her when she is not living with me.
I am hoping this way at least give us more time to be together.

….. this is also what I am worried.
If she really quits I will go as far as I can from GL.
I don't want to encourage her, she is not quitting right now anyhow, she doesnt want to take taxi everyday to work.
What to do.

I agree it is quite possible, but I dont give up if I see a small possibility that she really wants to quit she just need the right man.

Bro sgd1m, I know, I know...She is someone very special to you unlike other girls you have met (hmm.....so familiar!)

There're big "If", "Hope", "Uncertainty" - "Hope she appreciate all the things I have done for her but I am really unsure myself. Let's hope all things would turn out well for me" all written in your posting above.

Are you sure of this relationship yourself?? :confused: If she has the motivation to quit for the love of you, even if you lived next door to a house, she won't be shaken!!!

You are not in control of this relationship, very proactive. Tell her that she must quit in order "to give herself a chance" (not talking aobut marriage) to be with you.

Lastly, All the best in your apartment shopping and make sure the landlord is not humsuploh :)

[walle]

Guys who look for prositutes are just being normal. We need to relieve our sexual tension, one way or another, though wife, FB, GF, or whores.



Exactly you hit on the right note. Only girls without dignity will sell their bodies. They don't sell their bodies to live a normal life, they live a luxurious life! A whore in a health centre once told me that she made more than S$10k per month, and owned several apartments in Malaysia. PRC gals in Singapore made even more....a PRC gal working in a high end KTV told me that every month she is able to send back $10k - $15k, not counting the gifts from her boyfriends. I don't know how much a GL whore makes, but definitely not $1k a month like the Malaysian factory workers in Jurong.



I have no issues with sluts that fuck around..at least it is not money that they're going after. They just want to have fun, they enjoy their pussies being licked, and multiple orgasms. Enjoy sex, and sex for money is two different things.



Sorry bro, not all whores use the money on ther families. Some of them use their body earned money to pamper their good-for-nothing boyfriends or husbands. I don't look down on them because they earn more money than me. I look down on them because they have no dignity.



Why you encourage TS to gamble? Remember that he also gambling his life with STD and HIV if she continues to work in GL. Since you are so vocal with my post, maybe you have experience with a FL too?

den u r veru MCP, guys go whoring is being selfish, agreed dat not all feed family esp singaporean FL

The issue is dun look down on ppl, u think u can look down on FL, actually u are being looked down at. Yes I do have xperience with them that why I understand them and not looking down at them. As old chinese said职业不分贵贱，心好才是最重要。:cool:

[baby85]

only 1 word to say

STUPID

if she really loves u , she would quit for ur sake , how would a man tahan e woman whom u love to fark with another guy ??

tell me which man do ? >.< ok unless e man got e fetish i nthing to say

but normal man wont la , so pls wake up fm ur fairy tale , don be stupid n just let her squeeze ur money dry ..

if she have e intention to marry u , she would tink of u n stop her work in GL already ..

somemore u really can tahan she stay with u but go work everynite , while ur sleeping but ut gf is farking with other guys ?

tink urself , here are many examples of being KC , so if u wanna head into it .. den good luck bro !!

[Achates]

People do the silliest thing when they are in love and they won't listen to the soundest advice which goes against their heart.

[BlackerKnighter]

To win a PRCs'gal heart, trust me, money cant do the job. When you offer her money, you are the customer liao.

Haha take it from Uncle OKT la..what he said is in fact very true leh....

Actually every one involved with PRC whores should oredi know such straight forward shit right from the start but somehow they dont lor. Players know it so play play GFE aside they oso know it's all empty money-for-sex so no future one. But people who talk 'r/s' and 'love' with these hookers always assume that showering more 'care' and 'attention' on these broads will cement their relationship leh..

What it actually does is to reinforce the commercial nature of the transaction. And if you think money and gifts can buy you REAL affection and a whore's 'love" you are seriously deluded lor. Pouring good money after bad isn't just a bad investment in this case..it is only showing the hooker what a weak and gullible idiot you are and opening yourself up to more scams and trickery.

I won't put it as hi risk hi return though.....all this strategy for a broad really worth it at all meh? Even if you not sexxxtisy with just F&F then want to RTF and play KC game oso not say want it to be really SERIOUS one right? Want to make buddy and talk true tian mi mi there are better choice out there outside the cheong scene. Why take on all this garbage baggage when there is a simpler way? You think you will get the keys to some retirement mansion in ningbo or wuhan in the end? No payout is ever worth the stress, double dealing and second guessing you will get along the way with a whore.

Who willing to sell their body if have a chance to live normal, ask this questions back to your sisters or lady counterparts. If prostitutes have no dignity, what abt the SG GALS WHO SLEEP AROUND FOR FREE WITH ANG MOHS OR ONS OR LOCALS. HOW ABOUT (OR UR EX WHO FUCK WITH YOU?)GALS WHO FUCK WITH THEIR BOYFRIENDS WITHOUT AN ASSURANCE OF MARRY?

Bro, think you are confusing 'whore' with 'slut'..might seem related because some sluts are indeed whores but oso diff la.

Anyway in my book anyone who put themselves on the flesh and pussy market for some kind of price, be it GL street walker, SFJ singer, KTV hostess, JC bar girl, high class russian model escort, subordinate who sleep with boss(es) for promo, undergrad moonlight as mistress to married yuppie, wannabe who marry rich tycoon or celebrity all sama sama.. THEY ARE ALL WHORES no point mincing words!

On the pro end it is obvious ma...and maybe you move along the scale some oso ambiguous or subtle but if sex is being traded as a commodity for material gain and the main thing then why not fair to call them all whore?

Sluts...in the pure sense a bit diff la. Some are just nymphos, others look for self affirmation thru sex but at least theoretically no benefit or favor exchange mah. Of coz real life quite a few sluts are sometimes oso whores..

And yes you are right. Who in the right mind would want to kwee kar and let fat, ugly old stranger bonk their guts out and exploit them sexually?

Don't you think this does something to them?

Guys who look for prositutes are just being normal. We need to relieve our sexual tension, one way or another, though wife, FB, GF, or whores.

Exactly you hit on the right note. Only girls without dignity will sell their bodies. They don't sell their bodies to live a normal life, they live a luxurious life!

Sorry bro, not all whores use the money on ther families. Some of them use their body earned money to pamper their good-for-nothing boyfriends or husbands. I don't look down on them because they earn more money than me. I look down on them because they have no dignity.

Won't go into ethics of prostitution really no point one. This one sex forum leh. Right or wrong to each his own la. But think that if anyone thinks kio kway is so wrong and whoremongering lacks dignity then they shouldn't even be engaging whores in the first place. Moral logic tak match leh.. Works the other way too I think, in terms of exploiting others dignity then decrying them....

Agree with the bro but won't go as far as to say they totally have absolutely NO dignity la.

But definitely sell your body for money is not without consequence one la. It no doubt involves sacrificing, compromising and trading ur dignity and self respect lor. You treat ur body as a commercial good or platform for other people to use what you think it does to your self image and self identity leh?

If you talk to whores know them a bit better (BUT WITHOUT GETTING DRAWN INTO THEIR SCHEME AND TIO KC) and really can kick the BS and lies aside and obtain some candid honesty fm them that is the reality lor.

Even the retired ones I know still struggle to grapple with these things so unless you really see some genuine friendship angle best to stay away lor.... Its bad news leh.

Why leh? Coz most kways in sg foreign or local had a choice. They chose this path as an easy way out whether it is to satisfy personal goal or help family or whatever excuse they enjoy use so they have to live with their own choice what! I not directly responsible in any way for ur choice so dont keep telling me you cant stop crying or have nightmare or other sob story. What you expect? They can only blame their ownselves so they oso have to learn to deal with it on their own. people should understand accountability and responsibility lor.. And as a punter you want this extra stress for fuck?

All that whore servicing make them a bit haywire and short circuit one somehow. Still dont mean we dont respect them. I know it isnt easy trying to maintain semblance of human dignity in a meat market. But our compassion oso can only get that far if not tio chop you know?! I always believe F&F is easisest to respect. Coz pay and FO liao ma. Treat them nice and you are treated nice and contract ends its ctrl-alt-del. But RTF more and all the tricks come out oso very hard to respect lor. All the lying and dishonesty and fake sob stories all the mindfuck manipulation to get their goal.....so even if really part of their job description (KC, GFE etc of coz all FAKE la) you can say it is morally above board meh?

And yes, bro, you are oso right. They take the easy way out is very often not for subsistence or desperation but to live a high life. You want compassion for this kind of 愛慕虛榮 people for what? Real needy people deserve it leh not materialistic whores.

Pamper their loyal BFs and hubs...haha many times its pamper their own vanity wo!

Maybe diff whores got diff agendas and motivations. Not to say buy into national whore stereotype but you look at local, Thai, Viet or PRC pros when they KC and what they use the advantage to get out ahead for very telling lor. Some really conned and pressured by family to 'help out'. Doesn't excuse that it is still an easy way out. But maybe help put things in perspective. Others is out and out personal materialistic agenda lor. You see oredi oso scared. You want to be chye tow and rich enough go ahead. It is just buying temporary affection that is really illusion and bullshit. But buyer beware lor...

All in, whores that you find here really do NOT deserve any extra attention or pity or what you want to call it lah. They take care of themselves well enough. Dont have to look down but no point imagine that they victim oso. They victim - of themselves? So You want to play their game oso better know what you getting into. Don't think you RTF 6 months with tio bao money and gifts thrown in that makes her ur GF or makes the 'R/S" something you call 'love'.

If you think like that you are really asking for it lor.

[walle]

Why you encourage TS to gamble? Remember that he also gambling his life with STD and HIV if she continues to work in GL. Since you are so vocal with my post, maybe you have experience with a FL too?


He gambling his life with STD and HIV. YOU TOO! cos got you this type fucker spread the disease.........
pros got no dignity, u worse than them.:eek:u are a pierce of shit!

[slider_72]

To say that whores have no dignity is a bit of an overstatement I think. Too harsh. I prefer to see it as them just providing a service and it so happens that the platform for them to provide their service is their body.

At the end of the day, what is the meaning of the word "dignity" in the first place? The guy who cleans your garbage can say he has dignity because he worked hard for his money and its honest money. A hooker can also say she can hold her head high because she worked hard for her money and its also honest money.

What about those investment bankers who earn shit loads of money but the way in which they earn their big bucks is less than honest? What about those "investment" companies which are in reality bucket shops? Would you say a banker has more dignity than a whore even though the manner in which he derived his income is less than honest?

Bro prc_avartar is right. If we view them from the perspective of a cheongster, they will always be whores in your eyes. See them as another human and not a piece of meat and you may be surprised.

There is an ex-whore that I am still in contact with. In my estimate, she was probably in this profession for a good 6 years or more before she quit. Why she came into this profession in the first place? Low education, couldn't find any high paying jobs in China, rising cost of living, inflation, mother had medical problems, trying to save enough money to pay the mortgage for an apartment she bought together with her good-for-nothing boyfriend.

From her perspective, this is the only way in which she can earn some fast cash to address her immediate concerns, and to prepare her nest-egg for her future. She knew that she could not do this forever. Her plan is to charge ahead for another year, save the money and go back to start one of those manicure/padicure shops.

Unfortunately she had to quit due to some medical issues. Its not STIs. She developed ovarian cysts, and she believed (although its not true) that it was due to the number of times she was fucked for the past 6 years.

When she went back to China, her good-for-nothing boyfriend broke up with her because he found another girl. Most of her earnings went into buying their apartment so she got not much money left. For some reason which I am not quite clear about, they were unable to sell their apartment so she is stuck with no job, and not much cash.

This is not some sob story to con me to part with my money. I did not give her any nor did she ask for any. Although I started out as a customer, we became friends. She shared with me her problems, her fears, her hopes, her dreams in the same way we do with our so-called normal friends.

A whore is also human, with feelings and emotions, with hopes and aspirations. So to say that they have no dignity because of their job, that is really somewhat harsh.

[peanut123]

You are right this is also what I am worried.
If she really quits I will go as far as I can from GL.
I don't want to encourage her, she is not quitting right now anyhow, she doesnt want to take taxi everyday to work.
What to do.

I think your last sentence summarizes the entire story. She DOES NOT want to take taxi to work. She IS NOT QUITTING right now.

Basically, She's not willing to make any sacrifices for you, not even the slight inconvenience of travelling to work, even though she should actually stop working as FL if she is serious about you. But I guess the money's good, and she loves money more than she loves (or likes) you.

You're not the one for her if she cannot even make this sacrifice. And lastly, why you wanna marry a FL is beyond me. But I would say dun do it coz she really doesn't love you.

[peanut123]

I have to disagree with your assessment. As much as I agree they are humans with feelings after all, and I do enjoy having a chat with them, and if they are willing, even dinner and coffee, I do think their career choice is not dignified.

Selling your pussy and sucking dicks of complete strangers for money, willingly for the easy money, cannot be considered "dignity" from any angle.

That said, its their choice and its a free world, and its willing seller willing buyer. And I also think that willing buyers of their merchandise, myself included, are not exactly the best people to talk that much on this topic, since many would also consider us cheongsters to be without dignity. Not that I care when I'm sucking on some major hooters.


To say that whores have no dignity is a bit of an overstatement I think. Too harsh. I prefer to see it as them just providing a service and it so happens that the platform for them to provide their service is their body.

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[kimchi]

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Nice character & personality ---- try Malaysian girls (not FL), they are more down to earth and contended.
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Agreed..provided they have nvr been to Spore or the most is 2 yrs. I've seen too many foreign gals that live here for a certain period of time, their mentality n personality changed.

[phantom010436]

Not worth your time and money.Say good bye to her.

[newbieboy]

a lot of good advice on why you should and shouldn't, but since in most cases like yours the advice usually go in one ear come out the other, i present a different problem not yet covered in this thread. aside from landlord and KC concerns, i read somewhere you're hoping to spend more time with her since staying together. it really depends on your working hours, if you work at all.

i've stayed part-time with FL in GL before. one bedroom in a condo unit, not cheap. i really didn't pay much, and i'm not being delusional, the money i pay is more a token than got any impact on her expenses. i also never had to buy gifts etc, maybe sometimes go out for a movie and meal nia. i guess she just wanted the company :rolleyes: i also never KC her and she also never bother to KC me, just a friend with occasional benefits. i made it very clear i'm not looking for a relationship or to settle down, so she knew what the deal was. never lied to her. let me try to shed some light on the logistics of this arrangement.

this only applies if you work 9-5 like most of us. firstly, if she's a streetwalker, prime hours start at 10 end at 4am. if she got SB thread, timing is even more erratic, sometimes 7 onwards can disappear and come back hang out for half an hour, then disappear again. one night maybe you have to say bye bye to here 5 times, and stay up wait for her to knock off at 4am. in between when she's home she will be saying sweet nothings to different men every night, in the place you rented. maybe sometimes you even have to fetch her to the hotels. every night you wait, don't get to sleep much cos she keeps coming in and going out, then next day go work. on weekends, same problem, you have time to spare on friday and saturday nights, but typically, they are busiest on weekend nights. the same cycle ensues. sometimes you see her coming back so tired, you also feel bad to ask for any action. then you lie awake at night, can't sleep.

let's not kid ourselves, the more money you pay, the more you feel a sense of ownership you're entitled to. that's exactly the difference between you and me. you're proposing to pay for the rent and other things, while getting the same deal i had. i couldn't take that kind of irregular sleeping hours, and decided to revert back to the previous commercial arrangement. if you think by staying together you can spend more time with her (conventional wisdom, no doubt), you're in for a big surprise. firstly, the additional time won't add up to much. secondly, it's definitely not quality time. if you work at a day job, it's essentially you working day shift while your partner works night shift. doesn't make sense. of course if your FL partner only works in the day, then please proceed. good luck! :)

[QQBoy]

He gambling his life with STD and HIV. YOU TOO! cos got you this type fucker spread the disease.........
pros got no dignity, u worse than them.:eek:u are a pierce of shit!

Excuse me, I don't do raw, so even if I have any diseases, I will try to keep them to myself only. What kind of disease you got from your FL GF? Do you need advise how you can seek treatment? So did you marry her eventually?

[walle]

QQBoy, u must be one cheapskate who lose ur money to tis pros u look down on. Think ur self very highly? my foot! Now what year liao, men and women are equal leh, u said men look for pros are for release and normal, I can assure u next time ur wife, sister,gf or mother also outside finding guys to satisfied them or even worse doing the same jobs.
话别说太早，万事有因必有果。

[walle]

Excuse me, I don't do raw, so even if I have any diseases, I will try to keep them to myself only. What kind of disease you got from your FL GF? Do you need advise how you can seek treatment? So did you marry her eventually?

KNN, the worse is u got the disease u also dunno, like HIV:eek:
I screw ur mum instead giving birth to a arsehole to you:D

[sammyboyfor]

I barely had chance to see her when she is not living with me.
I am hoping this way at least give us more time to be together.

You want to spend more time with a WHORE??? You must be mad!:eek:

Pay to fuck her by the hour. It's a lot cheaper in the long run.

[musketeer]

No, no, no! Don't you ever think of it.