erection problems !!!

[confusion]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

[utd4ever59]

Brother,you may have diabetes. I advise you to go for a check up.

[nine9nine]

Brother,you may have diabetes. I advise you to go for a check up.

Wow everyday I learned something new.

TS are you working in a very stressful environment and sex is not exactly in your mind when doing it? Sometimes I did for the sake of doing it and the feeling is like a super waste of time. Sometimes I only think of sex when in front of computer and nothing to do. Most times I dont even think of it when I am outside with all the opportunities surrounding, because its not worth committing a single mistake and possible regret for the rest of my life. Yes, I am leading a double life and its not easy.

[confusion]

Brother,you may have diabetes. I advise you to go for a check up.

i don't think i have diabetes, no diabetes symptoms ...

[kristoa7]

Looks like ED.Go to any clinic.Point thumb down to doctor.He'll have you fix.

[Samroy]

Bro
you don't have any physical problem. if u had u can never get errection . its a psychological thing only. you have abit performance anxiety which you don't face when you are alone. more you try to get good performance thoughts in mind more u ll fail.. take it easy... try to get in a relationship and slowly go with your girlfriend. never drink and do sex, alcohol increase desire but decrease performance. you have to do sex with same girl few times to get ur confidence back. keep in mind one thing, u don't have any physical problem.

[Samroy]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.
Bro
you don't have any physical problem. if u had u can never get errection . its a psychological thing only. you have abit performance anxiety which you don't face when you are alone. more you try to get good performance thoughts in mind more u ll fail.. take it easy... try to get in a relationship and slowly go with your girlfriend. never drink and do sex, alcohol increase desire but decrease performance. you have to do sex with same girl few times to get ur confidence back. keep in mind one thing, u don't have any physical problem.

[lasupkia]

You are hitting 30 and the problem started 6 yrs ago... this is not normal.
As the other bro said, best to see a doctor. There are many different types of ED and most can be treated. In fact, ED is very common for men in various degrees. Some are stress related or sickness related. Drop your pai seh feeling and see a doctor.

[becky80]

I have the similar issue as TS.

But to i just simply walk into any neighbour clinic and ask doc for referral? Or are there any specialise clinic meant for men de?

[Kraves]

It does sound like anxiety and performance issues. The mere act of needing your manhood to stand at attention may instead, cause the opposite effect. As you've mentioned that you are able to attain an erection at times, you may not have ED.

Though, nothing is for certain. I'm still guessing that you are fine and there is no cause for alarm, yet. It is a common issue that men face. Losing interest and not maintaining a constant state of arousal could make one's penis flaccid. It's all in the mind.

Once again, you may wish to speak to a doctor about it. :)

[KampungChicken]

You don't need us ya? You need a doctor.

[wally888]

Stop the DIY, coz it'll numb your senses of your cock.......

[embraced]

It does sound like anxiety and performance issues. The mere act of needing your manhood to stand at attention may instead, cause the opposite effect. As you've mentioned that you are able to attain an erection at times, you may not have ED.

Though, nothing is for certain. I'm still guessing that you are fine and there is no cause for alarm, yet. It is a common issue that men face. Losing interest and not maintaining a constant state of arousal could make one's penis flaccid. It's all in the mind.

Once again, you may wish to speak to a doctor about it. :)

Bro kraves is correct, try to keep yourself in a relaxed mood and everything will be fine, if your feeling stressed/uptight, chances that you won't enjoy the session also very high. And if all else doesn't work, its time to see a doctor..

[confusion]

You don't need us ya? You need a doctor.

But any recommendation of doc? Or any clinic will do, DSC ?

[confusion]

It does sound like anxiety and performance issues. The mere act of needing your manhood to stand at attention may instead, cause the opposite effect. As you've mentioned that you are able to attain an erection at times, you may not have ED.

Though, nothing is for certain. I'm still guessing that you are fine and there is no cause for alarm, yet. It is a common issue that men face. Losing interest and not maintaining a constant state of arousal could make one's penis flaccid. It's all in the mind.

Once again, you may wish to speak to a doctor about it. :)

hmm.. is it adviseable to take tongkat ali or horny goat weed? Thats no side effect if i stop taking this right?

[fishball]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

Omg! I am having almost the same prob as the TS! I'm coming to the big 30. I exercise regularly, dun smoke, cut down on alcohol alot but yet my didi will go soft after a while of penetration even though its a chio bu. Certainly not sensitivity issue either as i go usually go raw with my gfs.

I remember i read in a post in this forum that a doc adviced that if a guy woke up in the morning with a harden didi means he is in ok condition. I'm quite troubled by this problem recently as it certainly does not reflect well in front of your girl.. :( TS, we could share more with each other should either one of us found a remedy..

[esssinine]

Have you heard of Testosterone Deficiency Syndrome? It hits you as you grow older but not necessary so, it does also happen to younger people

http://www.singaporemen.com.sg/scripts/pages/en/testosterone_deficiency_syndrome/what_is_tds/index.php

Also you could have a enlarged prostate which may or may not impact on your blood supply to the penis .

Get a referral to see a urologist and let him run the tests. Goes a long way to correct the problem .

[kgbkgb]

Omg! I am having almost the same prob as the TS! I'm coming to the big 30. I exercise regularly, dun smoke, cut down on alcohol alot but yet my didi will go soft after a while of penetration even though its a chio bu. Certainly not sensitivity issue either as i go usually go raw with my gfs.

I remember i read in a post in this forum that a doc adviced that if a guy woke up in the morning with a harden didi means he is in ok condition. I'm quite troubled by this problem recently as it certainly does not reflect well in front of your girl.. :( TS, we could share more with each other should either one of us found a remedy..

maybe u shldnt eat too much fishballs? :D

[wally888]

Watch the local movie acted by 辉哥. The wife said all men can only have 5000times in his lifetime, so does it mean nowadays Sg man reaching the limit earlier? :D

[MrCam]

ED is a very stressful thing to happen to any man. I had this problem too. As usual, tried all sorts of things. Chinese medicine, qigong, as well as doctors getting Ciallis. My personal experience with Ciallis is that it makes u hard for a couple of days. But after that the dick seems to be softer and smaller. With a box of 4 pills costing $80 not to mention the doctor's consultation fees, it's expensive to get a hard-on.
Recently I came across something that is not taken orally. I hate popping pills. It did work for me after about 2 weeks of trying. It's not an instant cure so pls don't think this is a miracle. Any bros interested can PM me for the info.

[MrCam]

Have you heard of Testosterone Deficiency Syndrome? It hits you as you grow older but not necessary so, it does also happen to younger people

http://www.singaporemen.com.sg/scripts/pages/en/testosterone_deficiency_syndrome/what_is_tds/index.php

Also you could have a enlarged prostate which may or may not impact on your blood supply to the penis .

Get a referral to see a urologist and let him run the tests. Goes a long way to correct the problem .I just researched about this. There's a danger of liver failure linked to pills for testosterone deficiency. Please be careful with this. Not worth dying for a hard-on.

[confusion]

Does Tongkat ali has any side effect if stop taking?

[Happy555]

TS, u should consider trying some pills for ur problems. Last time I also have similar problem, but after taking this pill, im hard like a rock. N if the girl is very pretty n give me the shiok feeling, i can continue doing after i cum the 1st round. If u interested to try, can PM me la.

[studdyme]

try juagen?

[callmebad]

Dear Confusion,

As you're quite young, I can think the possible reasons are you get tense up or you have performance anxiety issue.

I suppose you need some help from your sex partner. How about getting her to masturbate you or give you oral, stimulating you until you feel you're going to come, then ask her to stop and you penetrate her. I personally like to receive some oral sex or oral stimulation as a foreplay to help me get erected. Or, before you have sex with her, you watch a blue movie together with her to help you get erected and if this can work, probably before the movie ends, you may have already shoot inside her.

Before you reach for any Viagra, I suggest you go for a medical checkup of your heart. Erection is dependent on blood flow. If erection has problem, this may be a sign of blood flow problem or possible blockage to your heart.

[confusion]

Dear Confusion,

As you're quite young, I can think the possible reasons are you get tense up or you have performance anxiety issue.

I suppose you need some help from your sex partner. How about getting her to masturbate you or give you oral, stimulating you until you feel you're going to come, then ask her to stop and you penetrate her. I personally like to receive some oral sex or oral stimulation as a foreplay to help me get erected. Or, before you have sex with her, you watch a blue movie together with her to help you get erected and if this can work, probably before the movie ends, you may have already shoot inside her.

Before you reach for any Viagra, I suggest you go for a medical checkup of your heart. Erection is dependent on blood flow. If erection has problem, this may be a sign of blood flow problem or possible blockage to your heart.

But Tongkat Ali is a herb right, not consider medicine , so is it advisible to take,is it something like taking vitamins ? no side effect?

[MultiOrgasGuy]

TS appeared not to have a physical problem, as he gets hard in the mornng, and able to PCC normally. If it is not a physiological issue, it's most likely a psychological issue, as many had pointed out.

Here are some suggestions:

1. Don't pcc too much using porn. If you only get titillated by AV stars, you set a high standard for your "fantasy lover", and hence you may not find your gf good enough to titillate your senses. This works on your subconscious mind, regardless of whether you are aware of it or not. I get around this by using amatuer porn, where the girls are not perfect, and are of comparable standards to your gf or fb.

2. Hold off pcc for a while, maybe a few days etc. Then watch some amatuer porn with your gf, imagine & fantasize it's her, and then both of you can ML after that.

3. No matter how beautiful or sexy your gf is, most guys can get "tired" or de-sensitized" after some time. You know it when that happens, eg, your gf strips off and change her clothes in front of you but you don't get a hard-on anymore. That is why we guys get a fb, or look for FL etc. Guys need new stimulation for our mind. With new fresh stimulation, ML with your gf may get better.

Just my 2 cents on what works for me. Your views may vary.

[weaver]

Bro Samroy and Bro MultiOrgasGuy advices are very sound, you get hard watching porn and you are hard in the moring. Your tool is OK.

It all mental, 5mg of Cialis should see some improvement. Once you get over your mental block you should be ok.

Just with Doc first if you are fit for Cialis.

[confusion]

Bro Samroy and Bro MultiOrgasGuy advices are very sound, you get hard watching porn and you are hard in the moring. Your tool is OK.

It all mental, 5mg of Cialis should see some improvement. Once you get over your mental block you should be ok.

Just with Doc first if you are fit for Cialis.

HI, meaning those who got ED can't get their di di stand up no matter how ther stroke it?

I guess its my mental block, my sex drive is not that high anymore, compare to army times, i got alot of sexual fantasy. Any ways to increase your sex drive?

[MegaMaca]

Maca is also a natural product. Good for the male organ. Makes it very hard and can last up to 3 days.

Bros keen to read up more on it, PM me with your email addresses, I'll email u the link.

[Hatepooh]

ED is a very stressful thing to happen to any man. I had this problem too. As usual, tried all sorts of things. Chinese medicine, qigong, as well as doctors getting Ciallis. My personal experience with Ciallis is that it makes u hard for a couple of days. But after that the dick seems to be softer and smaller. With a box of 4 pills costing $80 not to mention the doctor's consultation fees, it's expensive to get a hard-on.
Recently I came across something that is not taken orally. I hate popping pills. It did work for me after about 2 weeks of trying. It's not an instant cure so pls don't think this is a miracle. Any bros interested can PM me for the info.

Bro. Show me the way for greater success please. PM me soon

[Happy555]

400g can make how many cups of coffee bro? How long before u feel the "power"?

[callmebad]

you didn't tell me your age
but if you're over 40,go for checkup to see if there're any underlying medical condition that can affect your erection
people with heart problem tend to have erection problem

I prefer that you don't take any pills first, better not to get yourself addicted to pills because you're actually feeding those drug companies for whole of your life if you're hooked onto those pills

for non-medical approach, you can get a cock ring (or penis ring)
this works by restricting blood flow out of your penis, allowing longer and probably harder erection
but you have to be careful not to wear the cock ring for more than 15 minutes

go to a doctor, where you can get a good quality penis pump to help in your erection,before you leave the clinic, make sure you get the doctor to teach you how to use the pump

during intercourse, get your girl to stimulate you more, ask her to give you hand job or mouth job to get you stand up again,or to stroke you in any way that can arouse you

also watch out on your lifestyle - are you stress, lack of sleep, smoke too much, drink too much - all these can affect your erection

[ChEm]

i also have these kind of problems sometimes. it happens when the partner is not attractive enough, bad attitude, unhygienic etc. sometimes it happens when too frequent of sex activities (including masturbation). Our brain is the greatest sex organ, once we have negative thoughts sure it will affect erection and performance. Maybe just stop the sex activities for 2 weeks and u'll be fine. Not to forget exercise also, cardiovascular training (jogging) for blood circulation and more importantly strength training for increasing tostesterone in the body. taking zync supplements also increases tostesterone in the body, this hormone is not just the sex hormone but it also take care of muscle and bone development. Just google zync and tostesterone and u'll get the connection. hope this helps.

[V123]

Hi

I have similar problems. Worried it might be health problem so went see a urologist. Health cleared. He offer me some Viagra which help. However i know this is not long term.

Sometimes went for tuina. They alway say prob need some Chinese health supplement as my kidney not so good.

Wonder any guys know of TCM doctors which can prescribe such medicine for health maintainance especially for erection issues. Sometimes I get hard but can't last long.

Hope to hear some recommendations.

[retief]

If one has a normal erection in the morning. Unlikely to have any physical abnormality being vasculature nor nerves.

Likely psychological especially if you are young. ED is a broad diagnosis. Can be define as unable to reach erection with stimiulus, able to reach erection but unable to penetrate or able to penetrate without successfully reaching climax...

Note is different from premature ejaculation.

Most of the time, docs will ask you such few questions and also screen for diabetes, hormonal deficiency.

Before one can be prescribed CIAlis and meds at such, one need to do ECG check for heart strain if above 40 and also do a hormonal profiles blood test.if all normal then prescription can be dished out. Sometimes, one just need one of two such med to boost the confidence in men.

If hormonal profiles is low in testosterone, then referral to endocrinologist will be warranted and hormonal therapy can start.

Like some bro mentioned, even with meds and adjuncts,must also have good tactile and visual stimulus to reach satisfactory erections..

Hope you will sort out the problem soon..

[Sen5eS]

TS appeared not to have a physical problem, as he gets hard in the mornng, and able to PCC normally. If it is not a physiological issue, it's most likely a psychological issue, as many had pointed out.

Here are some suggestions:

1. Don't pcc too much using porn. If you only get titillated by AV stars, you set a high standard for your "fantasy lover", and hence you may not find your gf good enough to titillate your senses. This works on your subconscious mind, regardless of whether you are aware of it or not. I get around this by using amatuer porn, where the girls are not perfect, and are of comparable standards to your gf or fb.

2. Hold off pcc for a while, maybe a few days etc. Then watch some amatuer porn with your gf, imagine & fantasize it's her, and then both of you can ML after that.

3. No matter how beautiful or sexy your gf is, most guys can get "tired" or de-sensitized" after some time. You know it when that happens, eg, your gf strips off and change her clothes in front of you but you don't get a hard-on anymore. That is why we guys get a fb, or look for FL etc. Guys need new stimulation for our mind. With new fresh stimulation, ML with your gf may get better.

Just my 2 cents on what works for me. Your views may vary.

I guess the diagnosis of Performance Anxiety fits ... would be good to get a normal check up to clear out any underlying issues b4 popping pills.

Good luck :)

[fox88]

Hi

I have similar problems. Worried it might be health problem so went see a urologist. Health cleared. He offer me some Viagra which help. However i know this is not long term.

Sometimes went for tuina. They alway say prob need some Chinese health supplement as my kidney not so good.

Wonder any guys know of TCM doctors which can prescribe such medicine for health maintainance especially for erection issues. Sometimes I get hard but can't last long.

Hope to hear some recommendations.
Hi, I recently come across this herbal supplements that can help with erection issues. I used to have erection problem like many of the brothers here. I resort to taking Viagra but it cause headache after a few hours. After taking the herbal supplement, I feel my erections are harder and I can last much longer. The best thing is I do not feel any side effects associated with taking ED medications like Viagra. Any brother interested can PM me.

[Jacks83]

Bros,

I just encountered for the first time a similar problem as TS and some other bros mentioned. Some background about myself is that I am nearing 30 also, I have a gf of 4 yrs and our r/s is very rocky, we quarrel every single day and havent been intimate for very long (more than 2 yrs already). Sadly (call me a bastard), I visit GL frequently to satisfy my urges. I watch porn and PCC regularly and have always rose to the occasion when I visit GL, bonking them WLs everytime w/o fail with full erections. Lately felt my skills even improved tremendously from the regular visits - can do WLs in multiple positions with full erections I can hold until I damn tired and have to over exert myself just to ejaculate.

Today, decided to visit GL again to find my favourite WL to bonk - can't forget the last time we bonked more and more gfe so dying to visit her. On the way there, was quarrelling with gf over the phone which made me super no mood and pek chek. When reached GL happily hooked up with my WL and went to room liao. Just before that, still exchanging heated words over sms with gf.

Thought of giving the WL with another round of intense sex. But dunno why this time after roleplaying and teasing didi in the underwear still flaccid and soft..she see already also ask me why my didi not happy to see her. By now I abit paiseh already but nvm. She continued to tease me, catbath me, pulled down my underwear and carassed my didi...still soft. I tried to carrass her boobies, finger her, kiss her, rub her all over while she capped me and gave me a bj on my soft didi. After about 2 mins of intense bj, did went semi-hard. Faster lay her down and tried to enter her..with her commenting asking why today my didi see her not happy. I tried to make didi harder but it was still semi-erect. Then she asked me to enter her slowly, which I did.

After only about 5 pumps, didi totally soften and popped out of her pussy. :mad:
Sian half, but she very nice, went down on me again and gave me an intense bj for about 5 mins, but didi just remained soft even though I tried to arouse myself and even thought of those OLs and SYTs I've always fantasised about while she blew me. After that, I gave up and told her today can't do. But she still very nice, lay down beside me for awhile, chatted with me including telling me some similar experiences she encountered with other bros, before we showered. I still paid her full rate and left. No confidence now even to visit her already. Confidence totally shattered today.

Drove home worried thinking whether something has happened to me. At home turned on my fav porn to test. And I was able to easily erect. PCC-ed and was able to shoot. Abit relieved but now confidence at a low. Now also dunno if got confidence go back to find WLs later waste money, time and throw face again.

From my own assessment of today, I think any of the following may be the cause:

1. Quarrel with gf totally spoilt the mood for sex. When I hooked up with fav WL still quite bothered by it thus cannot even erect.
2. Lately quite stressed over work, not enough sleep and also very horny. Past two-weeks everyday PCC (sometimes twice) and even visit GL occasionally. Not sure if its because of this and today reach a 'low-point' so can't perform.

Any bros have advice?:(

[dreamygal]

hmm I think TS has libido & erection prob? my bf also faced this n seen doctor last yr.. when aroused him his penis is so hard n long, when about to insert me it starts to shrink.. doctor recommended him to take herbal supplements called Tribestan from Guardian pharmacy counter as my bf doesnt want to take viagra or cialis. it doesnt require prescription. pharmacist told him it helps to stimulate own male hormones and can improve libido & erection. safer also.. he has been taking 3 tablets a day for abt 3 months, now taking 1 tab a day. he said not bad feels more alert during work and can last longer. i can feel it too not so frustrating hee.. happy me

[EdOng79]

There are some good pills out there to help us men facing such a problem. The one I am taking is very popular in Japan and its proven to me n my frens thats its a wonderful pill. My sexlife has totally turned around ever since I took it.

[happyguy1234]

Bro u might want to try this oil (http://www.pleasurehobby.com/shop/prolong-101/).... what is does basically is to lower the sensitivity of the penis glans during sex to help prevent early ejaculation.

[*FiReWoRkS*]

i have similar problems at times as well..but for me i think it's more of psychological as my sex drive has really nosedived over the years and i don't think of sex as much nowadays..i'm 30 yrs old btw..

1 thing that puzzles me is that what exactly causes morning hard-ons? i read somewhere it's because of full bladder putting pressure on the penis but for me i usually empty my bladder the night before thus no full bladder thus no morning hard-ons most of the time..is it normal?

[Campro]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

Young man, that should not be happening to you at your age. I suspect there could be an underlying medical problem. Please go for a medical checkup. Most important is to take care of your health.

This uncle here is still going strong at 63 years. When the body is functioning well, the didi will also perform well. :D

[popi824]

You watch too much porn and diy too much... stop diy and it will improve significantly... dun need to tk wad ever med like viagra etc for booze... it doesnt help n its a waste of money... speaking from experience...

[Jacks83]

didn't know frequent pcc would cause erection problems...i thought it more of 'trains' up how long u can hold ejaculation during sex proper and not so much affects erection which i think is more of a reaction to arousal? :confused:

[goodfun88]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

dude - you're asking people who are not medically trained.

If you really have a problem - see a doctor. You want a solution from a sex forum? Are you really that crazy?

[Kalv]

.. alot of times .. with pros or ..normal gal,.. erection initially.. di di soften, before penetration. .. more ..worried ..get it .. up, the softer it gets. .. ED? ...sex drive... lower ..expectation ..too high ..?? .. no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard. ... depress .. hitting my 30 ...DSC clinic ... good in this sort of issue? .

Probably depressed with high expectations - worry too much. Porn arousal level high (very sexy/beautiful girls) compared with GF/WLs etc. PCC very high friction compared to normal sex. Should not be ED - since DD very hard in morning. DSC more for HIV/STIs. Try to relax and exercise more - should be OK. If really want doctor's opinion, can visit "The Men's Clinic" at : One Raffles Place #05-07, amongst others . (Disclaimer: No connection with them). :) Cheers.



..similar problems at times... more of psychological as my sex drive has really nosedived over the years and i don't think of sex as much nowadays..i'm 30 yrs old btw..

... what exactly causes morning hard-ons?..full bladder putting pressure on the penis ...?

Morning hard-on with full bladder is a myth - not true. "Free" testosterone level is important for hard-ons. Fluctuates throughout daily 24 hrs. Highest in morning - that is why morning hard-ons - hardest. You are only 30 yrs - should be psychological - stresses, worries, etc. Testosterone decreases by about 1 percent yearly after 40 yrs. When we sleep, quite normal to have erotic dreams. Suppose to have a few hard-ons nightly culminating in the final one when wake up. Hope info useful. Wishing all a nice day. :) Cheers.

[Kalv]

One symptom of low testosterone is erectile dysfunction (ED). It is estimated that as many as 20 % of men with ED has a testosterone deficiency. In these cases, ED medications such as Viagra, Levitra, Cialis etc. do not work effectively. Must bring up testosterone level first (see doctor). Just for further info. :) Cheers.

[happyguy1234]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.



Bro i think u need strong visual stimulation.. i find that when i hard on the hardness is also not always at 100 percent one. its more like when starting to get excited with the girl, like when still foreplaying but dying to rip her clothes off already its amost the hardest, like 90 percent. then as the foreplay longer, and when gradualy touch her more the hardness will drop to maybe 50 or 60 percent... the trick i think is that when u touch her try touching yourself once in a while also. or get her to touch you also. this will keep the stimuation up. so that when the fucking come, the cock is at the HARDEST at 100 percent. the initial insertion is the most important liao. as long as u can INSERT HARD, the rest of the fucking sure hard till u cum one. if its soft anyhow poke also not easy to hard back...


just my 2 cents through experience bro.. :)

[Campro]

me oso 30 yr old now...

i still can get erection but it is not as hard as last time liao
now when i erect the hardness is oni abt 70% compare to last time :< ...

any ways to make the hardness back to 100% when erect???...so hard till can tak and bang on the table...miss my rock hard dick from last time

Pipe tio stuck liao.... pls go see a doctor to clear it. :)
At 30 yr old your dick should not be much diff from your 20s.

[Kalv]

.. oso 30 yr...get erection but it is not as hard as last time ...any ways to make the hardness back to 100% when erect???...

Exercise more - testosterone level will increase. Can also see doctor (any GP). Consultation about $20, 4x 20mg Cialis about $90. Try a quarter (5 mg) each time as booster on hungry stomach - 3 hrs after food ( no food 1 hr after taking ). No drugs/herbs containing nitrates to be taken with Cialis/Viagra etc. Wishing all a nice day. :) Cheers.

[stone08]

Exercise more - testosterone level will increase. Can also see doctor (any GP). Consultation about $20, 4x 20mg Cialis about $90. Try a quarter (5 mg) each time as booster on hungry stomach - 3 hrs after food ( no food 1 hr after taking ). No drugs/herbs containing nitrates to be taken with Cialis/Viagra etc. Wishing all a nice day. :) Cheers.

Why no nitrates?

[goodfun88]

In case you people still can't tell, ts is not genuinely looking for a solution.

Look at the number of ads for sexual aids in the 4 page thread - complete with exact prices.

Don't feed the trolls. It's just an opener for sales.

[kankachng]

TS, please eat tongka ali. It might helps:D

[Campro]

In case you people still can't tell, ts is not genuinely looking for a solution.

Look at the number of ads for sexual aids in the 4 page thread - complete with exact prices.

Don't feed the trolls. It's just an opener for sales.

Thanks for the alert. Good observation. :D

[wuleongehlang]

Thanks to all contribution, very good info, support:)

[Shadow_warrior]

Anyone tried this?

Te Zhi San Bian Jiu(特质三鞭酒)

http://www.goodeal.com.sg/products.p...duct_ID=CTZSBB

http://sanlowalan3minibot.virtualave...OfTheEast.html

damn strong, like XO which I dont like. put in coffee become like irish

coffee....

[Kalv]

Exercise more - testosterone level will increase. Can also see doctor (any GP). Consultation about $20, 4x 20mg Cialis about $90. Try a quarter (5 mg) each time as booster on hungry stomach - 3 hrs after food ( no food 1 hr after taking ). No drugs/herbs containing nitrates to be taken with Cialis/Viagra etc. Wishing all a nice day. :) Cheers.

Why no nitrates?

Do not take Cialis/Viagra etc if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin (Nitrostat, Nitrolingual, Nitro-Dur, Nitro-Bid, and others), isosorbide dinitrate (Dilatrate-SR, Isordil, Sorbitrate), and isosorbide mononitrate (Imdur, ISMO, Monoket). Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Also in herbs. Taking with a nitrate medicine/herb can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure - dangerous. Doctor will check and advise during consultation - time to ask questions too. :) Cheers.

[Campro]

Do not take Cialis/Viagra etc if you are also using a nitrate drug for chest pain or heart problems. This includes nitroglycerin (Nitrostat, Nitrolingual, Nitro-Dur, Nitro-Bid, and others), isosorbide dinitrate (Dilatrate-SR, Isordil, Sorbitrate), and isosorbide mononitrate (Imdur, ISMO, Monoket). Nitrates are also found in some recreational drugs such as amyl nitrate or nitrite ("poppers"). Also in herbs. Taking with a nitrate medicine/herb can cause a sudden and serious decrease in blood pressure - dangerous. Doctor will check and advise during consultation - time to ask questions too. :) Cheers.

Actually if you are on nitrates there is no need to take Ciallis or Viagra.
I know some heart attack victims who are medication will take their GTN tablets when they want to have sex. It is supposed to be taken when they encounter chest pains but these guys have discovered that GTN taken on a normal day will give them the effects of Viagra. :p

[PabloEscobar]

Actually if you are on nitrates there is no need to
take Ciallis or Viagra.

Interesting, i did not know that

[BornJovial]

Interesting, i did not know that

We all learn something new everyday..... why wouldn't the doctors tell us this? ;)

[janice201149]

Obviously you're suffering from erectile dysfunction, as what you've said the signs are are very obvious and the depression was also provoking your ED. well there are various factors provoking or developing this condition, such as having an unhealthy life styles or even current medicines that you're taking that has a ED side effects. in order to regain normal erection these factors must be corrected.. Male enhancement products (http://www.maleenhancementguide.org/male-enhancement-products/male-enhancement-product-as-a-mans-key-for-better-sexual-life/) will really help to this problem.

[TieGuanYinCha]

More mental than physical bro. Maybe you need to look for more FEELING sex than just plain shoot and go?

[CBxian]

I am often stressed out by work and my wife that I cannot even have a erection.

[ReferencePoint]

I take a green pill call Force Culminate Cialis to help me maintain my hardness. Good stuff. Can get hard again after cumming.

[Hatepooh]

Bro

Please advise me the name of the supplement. I'm keen to try.

[AaronTan]

We all learn something new everyday

Very true :)

[OmarAladeen]

didn't know frequent pcc would cause erection
problems

Me also, i did not know that ;)

[Goatslooter]

You should try it, i have been using the panax from the above now close to 4
years now. So far i find this one of the more better products out there
especially if you have ED (erectile dysfunction).

Overall i managed to remain hard atleast close to 20 mins - 25 mins. The
issue i had with ED is no more.

As i have taken it before i can also confirm that there are no side effects as
well ;)

thank you bro, i would like to have trial test and wrote in to panax, now waiting for their reply? seems like there is no agent directly deal with this product.

[kem5969]

try this blue capsule bro sure got result http://bankiklan.blogspot.com/2012/07/tiagra-herbal-capsule.html tried before and yeah

[terry74]

I had the same problem , too kancheong, take it easy, it is phychological only.
If you want to ensure you are better, take Garlic Tablets, cost abt only 20 dollars, do not need to buy from GNC etc, just go any pharmacy buy, I bought mien for 10 dollars only

[terry74]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

Take Garlic Tablets cost abt 10 to 20 dollars only, I learn this from the BBC documentary, old men cock cannot stand take garlic. nothing wrong with you only too "kangcheong" take it easy .Do not need to buy from GNC etc juts go any health food shop. My friend take this and very good effect, however take lots of water , as it can be heaty

[terry74]

I had the same problem many years ago so , I did the following :-

exercise using bicycle, no jogging, brisk walking for 30 mins to 1 hr or cycling, the blood circulates better, also dirnk plenty of water, the bird will stand better with more water

take garlic pills, really helped, or if not put garlic in soup and drink, the documentary abt this in BBC , talk abt old men cannot stand, take garlic good.

Garlic pills sell for 20 to 30 dollars, I got mine for 10 dollars only, no need to buy from branded shops like GNC, nature farm , any health food shop also can

dont be too kancheong when having sex, it will come, however if lady is too ugly maybe it will hide between the sandbags haha

[IAmAwesome]

i read somewhere it's because of full bladder
putting pressure on the penis

Correct, i read about that as well

[confusion]

Take Garlic Tablets cost abt 10 to 20 dollars only, I learn this from the BBC documentary, old men cock cannot stand take garlic. nothing wrong with you only too "kangcheong" take it easy .Do not need to buy from GNC etc juts go any health food shop. My friend take this and very good effect, however take lots of water , as it can be heaty

thanks for the advise..lol

[Paradise24]

Dear bros,

i hardly log in nowadays , but i do need some advise from all the lao jiao here, alot of times when i having sex, be it with pros or with a normal gal, i can get an erection initially, but after awhile, i seems to lose interest and my di di soften, before penetration.
Once in awhile i am able to penetrate and have sex and even shoot inside, but on and off alot of times i can't get an erection when strip naked, and the more i am worried and try to get it stand up, the softer it gets. Is it ED? or my sex drive is becoming lower or simply my expectation is too high and my partner fail to arouse me?? But i have no problem at all when i watch porn and diy and when i wake up in the morning, my di di is hard.

I am really depress now, i am hitting my 30 and i am not over weight, runs regularly. Is it due to stress? This problem 1st begins 6 yrs ago.

What should i do, if i am to consult a doc, which clinic is good in this sort of issue? The DSC at kelantan?

All advices are welcome, no flamming pls.

It actually happened on me too. Same situation also. No problem having sex with gf. Found out i only had these problem when try to get didi hard to sex with wl or one night stands. Any solution too?

[Goatslooter]

The Panax from the above really looks interesting, will probably try it out
soon :D

coffee is normal! it is the additive make it interesting? i like coffee! may ctc the agent in near future?:D

[Goatslooter]

The coffee is added to overwhelm the taste of the Panax. If not it will be
too bitter.

Just like tongkat ali, if you take it by itself, it will be very strong or too bitter,
so they also mix with coffee to overwhelm the taste :)

yes, the agent did tell me if just taste the additive will be super strong also v expensive? there4 they add into the coffee, i wondering why only coffee? not Tea or Miro?:)

[Goatslooter]

Because coffee the taste is strong enough to overwhelm it, unlike tea or etc,
it will taste disgusting, lol :D

oic...may be the pure panax is like bitter chinese herb? the coffee smell can overwhelm it totally? Im not sure? :D

[Scorp888]

Panax is essentially ginseng.

If you talk to TCM masters, they'll tell u not to consume ginseng and coffee or tea together because the caffeine in the drink will nullify the ginseng. Most likely, the boost from the drink comes from the higher caffeine content.

It is clever marketing to put ginseng and coffee together as a product.

[Goatslooter]

Panax is essentially ginseng.

If you talk to TCM masters, they'll tell u not to consume ginseng and coffee or tea together because the caffeine in the drink will nullify the ginseng. Most likely, the boost from the drink comes from the higher caffeine content.

It is clever marketing to put ginseng and coffee together as a product.

wow! good point? how to prove the high content of caffeine? must send lab for testing? this product is not approved by authority? :confused:

[Scorp888]

wow! good point? how to prove the high content of caffeine? must send lab for testing? this product is not approved by authority? :confused:


Caffeine content no need approval. It's just like your kopitiam kopi - kopi "kau" (thick) or kopi poh (thin). Kopi kau means more intense coffee = more caffeine. Just like espresso, one tiny cup = 10 regular cups. You can stay awake whole night. And you might think it's the ginseng.

[Goatslooter]

Caffeine content no need approval. It's just like your kopitiam kopi - kopi "kau" (thick) or kopi poh (thin). Kopi kau means more intense coffee = more caffeine. Just like espresso, one tiny cup = 10 regular cups. You can stay awake whole night. And you might think it's the ginseng.

another good points! but how come some bros here said can made their little bro awake and strong? psychological effect?:confused:

[merlinlion3]

@bro Scorp888

Expresso got same effect as ginseng? Zhun bo? If so I will go Starbucks before bonking my fave WL next round. kekeke

U are talking about making cock mari kita right? I am not too interested in remaining awake while little bro is sleeping. :D

[callmebad]

instead of taking those pills or supplements, I think it's better to try cock ring and penis pump

the cock ring will help to keep the erection a little longer, but don't use it for more than 15 minutes

for penis pump, better if you can get it through doctor's advice or recommendation

[GorengPisang75]

wow! good point? how to prove the high content of caffeine?

Bro you are running around in circles, the purpose of the coffee is just to
nullify the bitter taste there is no other purpose.


If you talk to TCM masters, they'll tell u not to consume ginseng and coffee
or tea together because the caffeine in the drink will nullify the ginseng.

You are talking nonsense, tongkat ali coffee and ginseng coffee has been
around for ages. You cannot take a certain amount of ginseng, there is a
certain limit.

As for your coffee mixing ginseng claim see below

[
It is, indeed, a bold claim to suggest that ginseng cannot be used with
coffee or other stimulants. Ginseng is the most famous herb in East Asian
medicine. Coffee is just about the most widely-used herbal product in the
world. Millions of people consume ginseng and coffee together every day in
Korea alone, much less the rest of the world

However, almost none of the books that contain this statement list any
citations for this claim. In the lone exception in the literature where this
statement occurs and a citation is given, the referenced article itself lacks
any mention of ginseng and coffee or any other stimulants. In other
words, this is basically hearsay based on secondary sources, with a complete
absence of traditional and modern literature that supports this claim.
]

Source: Ginseng Coffee Facts (http://www.bluepoppy.com/blog/blogs/blog1.php/ginseng-coffee-herb-drug-interactions-an)

Go to the Ginseng and Coffee part

To put it bluntly its safe, the koreans have been drinking this panax stuff for
close to a 1000 years already.

And bro merlinlion3 is right 100%

[SGLadyboy]

Just like espresso, one tiny cup = 10 regular cups. You can stay awake whole night. And you might think it's the ginseng.

You really talk no sense. Coffee is coffee, ginseng is ginseng. If coffee got
better effect then ginseng, the price of the ginseng will drop and all the
ginseng exporters will go bankrupt in korea.

i drink usually 2 expresso cups, expresso caffeine is the same as normal coffee

In actuality, a serving of espresso is pretty much the equivalent to a strong cup of coffee caffeine wise

http://www.jumpingoat.com/blog/coffee/does-espresso-have-less-caffeine-than-coffee

What a silly claim you made

[Goatslooter]

how often you drink? once a day or follow the instruction 2~3 time a week?;)

[Scorp888]

To SGLadyBoy and GorengPisang,

before you accuse me of "talking no sense", I suggest you do a bit of research on your own.

I don't ask you to thank me, but at least, show some respect for an alternative point of view. If you read carefully, I have never in my posts say YOU are talking nosense, right?

By the way, I do have the right to be skeptical, just as you have the same right to be totally enthusiastic about ginseng coffee. FYI, I have been taking Korean ginseng for over 20 years. I like Korean ginseng because it gives a calm feeling, it does not make me feel all edgy that one gets from American ginseng. (Yes, there are differences, in case you all don't know).

Many years ago, Western medicine would diagnose symptoms of illnesses and prescribe medicine to address these symptoms, but not the cause. Only in recent years, they have become more aware of CONTRAINDICATIONS, which means certain food substances that appear to do good for us, can become irrelevant if we take some other foods that contain natural substances that activate an opposite effect. Hence, you may find that nowadays even Western-trained doctors tell you not to eat certain things while you're taking certain medicines. I'm sure most of you have come across questions such as "Are you allergic to any drugs/ penicillin"? That is a sign that these Western-trained doctors who were once totally skeptical about TCM, now accept that drugs can have negative cancelling-out interactions between themselves. You go ahead and tell him he's talking nonsense just because those are two different types of substances - you do so at your own peril.

The nature of such foods are already well-known in TCM for centuries. If you approach a TCM master about getting some herbal stuff to raise your dickie, he'll tell you that you need more than just the herbal stuff; I won't elaborate because it's quite a cheem subject. AND they always say, avoid coffee or (western) tea while you're taking the herbal stuff because the caffeine in it will neutralise whatever good substances there are in the herbs.

[Scorp888]

@bro Scorp888

Expresso got same effect as ginseng? Zhun bo? If so I will go Starbucks before bonking my fave WL next round. kekeke

U are talking about making cock mari kita right? I am not too interested in remaining awake while little bro is sleeping. :D

It's not as simple as that.

Coffee gives you an almost instant caffeine boost. It wakes up your body, and if you're a normal healthy man with good balanced male hormones, you can get it up and do it. If your health is already koyak, then the effect of ginseng or coffee will be minimal, not enough for a whole night banging session.

Oh, Starbucks coffee is not the same as your neighbourhood kopitiam coffee. Designer coffee usually contains plenty of milk or cream; these are alkaline substances, coffee is acidic. Too much milk/cream brings down the acidic level of coffee. Black coffee with just a little bit of sugar is best for that instant boost.

Ginseng is a fantastic herb for long term health. Even then, it is only effective up to your maximum good health. It won't make a superman out of you if you're not born a superman in the first place.

You also need to find out whether your body is too "yin" or too "yang". If too "yin" you take more yang food to balance up. (Cooling vs heaty). Herbs such as ginseng, horny goat weed, tongkat ali, they all provide the yin/yang substances that affect your health. Normally, good health means being able to screw the whole night. But even then, if you cum too much during your youth, you will suffer from ill health when you're old.

[Scorp888]

Actually, a glass of Guinness Stout with raw egg is enough to keep a normal healthy man in his 20s-30s happily banging 3 times a night. I have a friend who screwed his gf whole night after disco, and went straight to camp for IPPT from hotel room. He passed and he swore that it was the stout.

[merlinlion3]

@bro Scorp88

Raw egg can put in other drink than stout? Milo? Don't like alcohol taste leh. :confused:

[Goatslooter]

Actually, a glass of Guinness Stout with raw egg is enough to keep a normal healthy man in his 20s-30s happily banging 3 times a night. I have a friend who screwed his gf whole night after disco, and went straight to camp for IPPT from hotel room. He passed and he swore that it was the stout.

I have a kaki at the age of 65, he said stout can boost his bonking stamina ! may b i should swap beer to stout with immediate effect? worry the bitter taste?? :D

[Jebuschris91]

There's a method I read online to increase testosterone, they said to watch porn and get horny and whatever, but don't pcc. Just watch until cannot tahan then stop and chill, the testosterone level in your blood will increase.

Side effects will be improved male performance and also hair growth, so some bros go give it a shot and see how it goes?

[Goatslooter]

It's not as simple as that.

Coffee gives you an almost instant caffeine boost. It wakes up your body, and if you're a normal healthy man with good balanced male hormones, you can get it up and do it. If your health is already koyak, then the effect of ginseng or coffee will be minimal, not enough for a whole night banging session.

Oh, Starbucks coffee is not the same as your neighbourhood kopitiam coffee. Designer coffee usually contains plenty of milk or cream; these are alkaline substances, coffee is acidic. Too much milk/cream brings down the acidic level of coffee. Black coffee with just a little bit of sugar is best for that instant boost.

Ginseng is a fantastic herb for long term health. Even then, it is only effective up to your maximum good health. It won't make a superman out of you if you're not born a superman in the first place.

You also need to find out whether your body is too "yin" or too "yang". If too "yin" you take more yang food to balance up. (Cooling vs heaty). Herbs such as ginseng, horny goat weed, tongkat ali, they all provide the yin/yang substances that affect your health. Normally, good health means being able to screw the whole night. But even then, if you cum too much during your youth, you will suffer from ill health when you're old.


bro 888,
your illustration is quite true! I recalled when I purchase the dietary supplement from GNC, the sale executive reminded me not to consume the caplets together with coffee or tea? she told me it will not be effective bcos it contains ginseng. Thanks.

[LehmanBrothers]

I don't ask you to thank me, but at least, show some respect for an
alternative point of view.

Alternative view is no problem, but misinformation is not, you are misinforming
people, the other 2 guys (SGladyboy/GorengPisang75) talk with sense. There
is nothing to thank you for talking fruitlessly.

You are misinforming people and talking as i would say total nonsense. Coffee
is coffee, ginseng is ginseng, the reason why tongkat ali is also mixed with
coffee sometime is due to the bitter taste, you are very badly misinformed.

Coffee has a strong aroma so it overwhelms the taste.

This has been done since the 1800s in indonesia/malaysia, so please don't
spout anymore nonsense, its unwelcomed

And as for your stout comment, alcohol never keeps anyone healthy, it
destroys the liver, ask any doctor.

bro 888,
your illustration is quite true! I recalled when I purchase the dietary
supplement from GNC, the sale executive reminded me not to consume the
caplets together with coffee or tea? she told me it will not be effective bcos
it contains ginseng. Thanks.

Talking about this reminds me when i was at the GNC at habourfront, i was
asking for something to help lower cholesterol, the lady suggested something
called super fibre. Now i am not stupid, i know this is for digestion has
nothing to do with cholesterol, and when i asked her this she just said can
also can also, but nowhere on the directions it wrote that, so this shows how
knowlegable they are, last time i ask any advice from them.

And goatslooter why are you asking weird questions like why cannot mix with
Milo, where have you ever seen milo panax, your questions are really weird
in nature :confused:

[Goatslooter]

Alternative view is no problem, but misinformation is not, you are misinforming
people, the other 2 guys (SGladyboy/GorengPisang75) talk with sense. There
is nothing to thank you for talking fruitlessly.

You are misinforming people and talking as i would say total nonsense. Coffee
is coffee, ginseng is ginseng, the reason why tongkat ali is also mixed with
coffee sometime is due to the bitter taste, you are very badly misinformed.

Coffee has a strong aroma so it overwhelms the taste.

This has been done since the 1800s in indonesia/malaysia, so please don't
spout anymore nonsense, its unwelcomed

And as for your stout comment, alcohol never keeps anyone healthy, it
destroys the liver, ask any doctor.



Talking about this reminds me when i was at the GNC at habourfront, i was
asking for something to help lower cholesterol, the lady suggested something
called super fibre. Now i am not stupid, i know this is for digestion has
nothing to do with cholesterol, and when i asked her this she just said can
also can also, but nowhere on the directions it wrote that, so this shows how
knowlegable they are, last time i ask any advice from them.

And goatslooter why are you asking weird questions like why cannot mix with
Milo, where have you ever seen milo panax, your questions are really weird
in nature :confused:

bcos i dont have much knowledge on the product, therefore may be i have asked those stupid questions? is there any thing wrong to mix ginseng in the Milo? may be this is abnormal? but izit harmful? can enlighten further? Now i read from all bros knowledgeable talk! I also get confused? which is right n wrong? or there is no wrong or right? :confused::confused:

[Scorp888]

@bro Scorp88

Raw egg can put in other drink than stout? Milo? Don't like alcohol taste leh. :confused:


I don't know about Milo with raw egg. Never tried before. But with Guinness stout, almost everyone I know who's tried it praise its effectiveness.

[Scorp888]

Alternative view is no problem, but misinformation is not, you are misinforming
people, the other 2 guys (SGladyboy/GorengPisang75) talk with sense. There
is nothing to thank you for talking fruitlessly.

You are misinforming people and talking as i would say total nonsense. Coffee
is coffee, ginseng is ginseng, the reason why tongkat ali is also mixed with
coffee sometime is due to the bitter taste, you are very badly misinformed.

Coffee has a strong aroma so it overwhelms the taste.

This has been done since the 1800s in indonesia/malaysia, so please don't
spout anymore nonsense, its unwelcomed

And as for your stout comment, alcohol never keeps anyone healthy, it
destroys the liver, ask any doctor.





And you are an expert in this? How do you know YOU are not misinforming people? How do you know whether YOU are talking sense?

Have you also asked the doctor about red wine? Every website and doctor says wine, especially red wine is good for health - in moderation. That is a fact. Nobody here is saying that drinking a tank of alcohol will boost his libido. Of course, that would kill the drinker. In fact, all information from the web states beer is bad for health. But stout, apparently, works well according to actual people's testimony -- again, in moderation. You don't have to believe it, but DON'T come and claim that this is untrue. Let the other forummers here try it for themselves. Just one can will do, not more than that.

Why do I get the feeling that you are actually either SGladyboy or gorengpisang? The way you and the other two so aggressively defend your tongkat ali makes me wonder, do you guys have a personal interest in promoting those websites, in that, you're making money from promoting those products?

Let's be clear about this: I'm NOT saying those are lousy products. I know they do work if used properly. But, for discussion sake, I merely put forward the notion that caffeine kills whatever good substances there may be in there. The TCM master I know tells me the same thing. So that means I'm talking nonsense????

The fact that some of you claim that this formula --coffee+ginseng / coffee+tongkat ali -- have been used by millions in Korea and Indonesia for 200 years exposes a falsehood. Coffee+ginseng is a very recent modern-world product, manufactured in factories by the same process as 3-in-1 coffee. The same for coffee+tongkat ali. 200 years ago, tongkat ali was prepared by hand the traditional way, the root was brewed for long hours, and the liquid was drank just like that without any sweetener or coffee. It was very bitter, and the guy who drinks it would feel very hot (heaty) after that. Not everybody can handle it. But it was very effective.

Oh by the way, coffee's aroma which is the smell detected by the nostrils, will not overwhelm the taste which is detected by the taste buds on the tongue. One is smell, the other is taste. Sorry I have to say this -- get your facts right!

[Goatslooter]

I don't know about Milo with raw egg. Never tried before. But with Guinness stout, almost everyone I know who's tried it praise its effectiveness.

tried before Milo w egg when i was young, taste good ! couldn't rmb how effective it was? but it is good for health. :)

[PabloEscobar]

Never tried before. But with Guinness stout,
almost everyone I know who's tried it praise its effectiveness.

You are really crazy and out of your mind, raw eggs in any food/drinks can
cause you food poisoning and even salmonella. You want to kill someone is it,
you are very irresponsible, putting this type of myth and garbage out there.

Source: http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/news/media-releases/mr-26-dec-improper-use-of-raw-eggs-food-poisoning

And you are an expert in this? How do you know
YOU are not misinforming people? How do you know whether YOU are talking
sense?

Its common sense, you don't have to be an expert in it, the other guys are
talking sense, go to a doctor and ask him if eating raw eggs can cause
salmonella, you want someone to visit the hospital?

Why do I get the feeling that you are actually
either SGladyboy or gorengpisang?


They are different guys look at their writing style, so i also agreed with what
they said so what, you are minsinfiorming people

The way you and the other two so aggressively
defend your tongkat ali makes me wonder

Neither of them have posted any links about tongkat ali in this thread at all,
the reason they came out was to set the record straight about the
disinformation you set out, but instead of engaging with them, you start
arguing with them.

GorengPisang is a manufacturer of digital locks, you can see from his past
posts, he has no interests in tongkat ali.

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=299117&page=9

I merely put forward the notion that caffeine kills
whatever good substances there may be in there.


What caffeine kills?? But alcohol is good for you, see the nonsense you
spout?

One is smell, the other is taste. Sorry I have to
say this -- get your facts right!

Coffee overwhelms the taste and smell of any product, even kids know this
and you don't?

There is no setting the record straight with you, you are just plain stubborn,
until someone gets hurt especially with your raw egg comment

tried before Milo w egg when i was young, taste good !
couldn't rmb how effective it was? but it is good for health. :)

I slapped my forehead when i saw this comment, LehmanBrothers was right,
you are weird, asking weird questions and now doing weird things :confused:

[ImCJY]

Just got some Diety pills from a guy that also sells those green 35mg Force Culminate Cialis. All I can say is Die Die Must Try. Cock gets rock hard within 30mins, no side effects n easily gets hard again with the slightest of arousal. Highly recomend to bros who need the extra oomph!

[Goatslooter]

I slapped my forehead when i saw this comment, LehmanBrothers was right,
you are weird, asking weird questions and now doing weird things :confused:[/QUOTE]

bro, u nvr tried u dont give this type of comments pls? I swear I personally tried the hot Milo with egg added in okie! im not weird ? I'm old enough to know what I have just said and I always answer for it! Pls dont just throw cold water on everybody Pls! I Thank you. :)

[Goatslooter]

Guys please don't argue, later the thread will get deleted by the moderator.

We can all agree to disagree, just use what you feels works for you.

Peace to everyone :)

support ! dont like ppls just throw bombs here n there? if we are wrong! just correct us and make it right ? we appreciate.;)

[Scorp888]

You are really crazy and out of your mind, raw eggs in any food/drinks can
cause you food poisoning and even salmonella. You want to kill someone is it,
you are very irresponsible, putting this type of myth and garbage out there.

Source: http://www.foodauthority.nsw.gov.au/news/media-releases/mr-26-dec-improper-use-of-raw-eggs-food-poisoning



Its common sense, you don't have to be an expert in it, the other guys are
talking sense, go to a doctor and ask him if eating raw eggs can cause
salmonella, you want someone to visit the hospital?[/url]


Now I think you're one of them. You deliberately left out the context of my post. Or if you had bothered to scroll back, you would find that I had said a glass of Guinness stout with a raw egg. Maybe you don't live in Singapore, so let me help you a bit with the culture here. Drinking stout with a raw egg is not uncommon. I've done it myself and never have to visit the doctor for it. Raw egg by itself has salmonella, even half-boiled egg can have salmonella, but millions of people eat it everyday. Oh, my comment about stout and egg was not in the same post to LehmanBrother. And no, I'm not crazy.



They are different guys look at their writing style, so i also agreed with what
they said so what, you are minsinfiorming people

You cannot make such a claim without proof. If you cannot show prove with the facts, then you're just deliberately being argumentative. Take note that my first post in this thread I merely stated my opinion that caffeine in coffee would neutralise the ginseng substances in it. My opinion is borne of similar advice from many TCM practitioners. I didn't just claim it out of thin air. A reader can choose to believe it or disbelieve it, that's fine with me. But accusing me of misinformation, just as you now have? That's not attacking my point, that's attacking me.



Neither of them have posted any links about tongkat ali in this thread at all,
the reason they came out was to set the record straight about the
disinformation you set out, but instead of engaging with them, you start
arguing with them.

GorengPisang is a manufacturer of digital locks, you can see from his past
posts, he has no interests in tongkat ali.

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=299117&page=9

My post original was directed at someone's claim about ginseng+coffee. Then they later came in with tongkat ali+coffee. I decided to address all their points similarly because they were all arguing for ginseng+coffee and tongkatali+coffee. Did you not read that part in my post to which you replied? I notice that you would take the trouble to show that GorengPisang is manufacturer of digital clocks...I wonder why? he's your friend? You guys are the same person?



What caffeine kills?? But alcohol is good for you, see the nonsense you
spout?

Ahhhh, please re-read that part again. What did I say? To repeat, I said "I merely put forward the notion that caffeine kills
whatever good substances there may be in there." If that's not clear, let me rephrase it: Caffeine kills the good sex-boosting chemicals in the ginseng-coffee and tongkatali-coffee combinations. This is not nonsense, unless you're saying all those TCM practitioners are spouting nonsense. Then, they really should be banned from practising their medicine and their medicinal halls should be closed down, since according to you, they're "spouting nonsense". Nice to meet someone like you who are so much more knowledgeable than those TCM doctors who had to study for many years to get their practising certificate.

Again you're deliberately twisting my words out of context. I didn't say alcohol per se is good. Anybody reading my post will understand that. Since you don't, then I can only conclude you made your comment with a prejudiced mind. Again, this relates to the common Singaporporean practice of drinking stout with an egg. I guess I missed all those reports of people dropping dead at hawker centers and pubs. And I guess you totally missed reading that part of my post that says "in moderation" and that a tank of alcohol would kill the drinker? Or did you deliberately ignore it?


Coffee overwhelms the taste and smell of any product, even kids know this
and you don't?


There is no setting the record straight with you, you are just plain stubborn,
until someone gets hurt especially with your raw egg comment

That's not my point. My point is for him to get his facts straight. Again, you're deliberately not addressing my point.

No I'm not stubborn. Far from it. I believe in what I was and am saying. I repeat, drinking stout with a raw egg is not uncommon, and many people have claimed it works. In any case, the salmonella in the egg would be destroyed by the alcohol anyway --- have you ever had alcohol swaps by a nurse before and after an injection? In case you don't know, the alcohol swap is meant to kill germs. I guess you didn't know that. Well, now you know.

I would like to enjoy a debate with you and the others about the merits of coffee, caffeine and its effect on ginseng and tongkat ali, but I think it will be a waste of time because, it seems, you guys are more interested in calling people names and attacking the person rather than tackling the points of the discussion. I have a lot of more insulting adjectives to give you and the other 2 guys, but I rather keep this forum as civilised as possible.

[Bernanke]

Now I think you're one of them.

I also disagree with what you said, meaning all that disagree with you
are clones, sounds that you think you are always right and people are all
wrong, you think very highly of yourself :p

[Scorp888]

I also disagree with what you said, meaning all that disagree with you
are clones, sounds that you think you are always right and people are all
wrong, you think very highly of yourself :p


Alright, let's discuss. Which point do you disagree with? All of them? List them all, let's discuss. It's got nothing to do with whether I think very highly of myself. You might as well say all those people who disagree with me think very highly of themselves...right?

[PabloEscobar]

You cannot make such a claim without proof.


Did you miss out the link i posted from the food administration form the
government of australia? If that is proof then what your so called TCM friend
is :rolleyes:

If you cannot show prove with the facts, then
you're just deliberately being argumentative. GorengPisang is manufacturer
of digital clocks...I wonder why?

Because you made an invalid claim, so i checked and it looks that you just
guessed, when you cannot win an argument that person is a clone
right :rolleyes:, so is Goatslooter your clone, sounds stupid right that how it
sounds to me as well?

have you ever had alcohol swaps by a nurse
before and after an injection? In case you don't know, the alcohol swap is
meant to kill germs. I guess you didn't know that. Well, now you know.


This is why the others said you spread disinformation and make it seem that its true.

Drinking alcohol is chemically known as ethanol. Rubbing alcohol is
isopropyl alcohol, its a different product, the drinking one cannot kill germs

Isopropyl alcohol is a propanol, or 3-carbon alcohol with the OH on the middle
carbon. It is commonly called rubbing alcohol, and is somewhat poisonous.
Doctors use isopropyl alcohol to cleanse/sterilize the skin before hypodermic
injection, and it is rubbed on as 'rubbing alcohol'. It can also be used to cool
someone by rubbing it on and letting it evaporate.

Ethanol is 2-carbon alcohol, and called grain alcohol because it is usually
made by fermentation of grains. You can also ferment other starches, or
sugars, to obtain ethanol. It is the name for what people commonly
call 'alcohol'.

That alcohol in the stout when you put in a raw egg you risk salmonella, it is
not the same as rubbing alcohol.

I am not going to reply to you anymore, because obviously your nuts and
bolts are not in the correct places

[LehmanBrothers]

Guys please don't argue, later the thread will get deleted by the moderator.

We can all agree to disagree, just use what you feels works for you.

Peace to everyone :)

Support, lets not derail the thread :)

[Scorp888]

Alright, this will be the last post I'll make on this thread.

1) Guinness Stout with raw egg is drank as "natural viagra" in many cultures such as Caribbean and Jamaica. I swear I didn't know this, thought it happens only in Singapore, but here's the website to find out more:
http://www.tonicquest.com/theory/stout-and-eggs/



2) Alcohol can reduce the risk of food poisoning i.e. raw egg in stout. Read about it here: http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/healthissues/1110384069.html

That's all.

[SGLadyboy]

From your own data,

I swear I didn't know this, thought it happens
only in Singapore, but here's the website to find out more:
http://www.tonicquest.com/theory/stout-and-eggs/


You post a link from a blog? The above poster posted a link from the
australian government food administration, i wonder who we should
believe :rolleyes:


2) Alcohol can reduce the risk of food poisoning i.e. raw egg in stout. Read
about it here: http://www2.potsdam.edu/hansondj/healthissues/
1110384069.html


Once again from your own data

Guiness stout alcohol content is only 6%-8%

From your above link, now you posted this link i did not

[
but no protective effect was found for beverages with an alcohol
concentration <10%.
]

So now you even start to contradict yourself :rolleyes:

Guys please don't argue, later the thread will get deleted by the moderator.

We can all agree to disagree, just use what you feels works for you.

Peace to everyone :)

Support from me as well, no more comment on this topic from me as well :)

[DarthVader63]

Managed to get hold of the panax from http://panax.xomcom.com
around last 2 weeks ago, been using it for a week now.

On the weekend went to have some fun with my gf, overall my lil bro managed
to stand erect more longer then usual, i can say atleast there is an
improvement of atleast 30%, but this is the first week i have been taking it
so probably will improve further.

One thing i noted is that when i usually try to go for second round with my
gf, my lil bro will have problem rising, but this time was no problem and was
able to remain hard atleast 15-20 mins.

As i have tried the product now myself, i can confirm that there is 100% no
side effects at all :)

Overall good product for those with problems of erectile dysfunction,
extremely happy with my purchase :D

Nice review bro, i am also getting tempted to try the Panax from
http://panax.xomcom.com

For me if can stay hard for 15 mins like you, i really will be happy :o

[arthurpatricia]

1.The coffee looks great. worth a try.

2. raw eggs are alright. those who took pilot training during army days will know. They make you crack the raw egg into your mouth in mid-air.

3. i have a few ED pills, cialis, left overs from my overseas trip from the US, perhaps anyone is interested? have receipt and everything else.

[Goatslooter]

Agreed, the panax from http://panax.xomcom.com looks great.

Did some searching on google, the panax thing looks quite promising
especially for erectile dysfunction, and i shall try it soon enough ;)

since like more and more bros prefer panax? bur hardly see anyone writing any FR after consuming it? how often you drink? when is best time to drink? how does it perform on you? ;):)

[MichaelScofield]

bur hardly see anyone writing any FR after
consuming it?

Did you miss out the FR by LuckyStrikes and the FR by the Tupac
guy :confused:

Seems like you gloss over the pages and omit facts, why do you behave this
way

how often you drink? when is best time to
drink? how does it perform on you? ;):)

How does Darthvader63 know? He says he is going to try it soon, the
questions you are asking him is like you want him to submit a thesis to you.

I thought the other guys were being tough on you when they said you are
weird asking weird questions, but it seems like its true.

I tried not to involve in this but the way you post sometime you think your
advice is important when no one actually cares what you have to say.

You said in post 102 that the instruction said 2-3 times a week, so just follow
the instruction, you already know the answer but reposting again asking the
same questions over and over again, like as if your screws have come loose.

Stop asking people the same questions again and again, you are not going to
get a different answer :mad:

Do not know if its just me but Goatslooter really gets on my nerves, asking the same
thing again and again even when he knows the answer or it has been
answered.

[Goatslooter]

Did you miss out the FR by LuckyStrikes and the FR by the Tupac
guy :confused:

Seems like you gloss over the pages and omit facts, why do you behave this
way



How does Darthvader63 know? He says he is going to try it soon, the
questions you are asking him is like you want him to submit a thesis to you.

I thought the other guys were being tough on you when they said you are
weird asking weird questions, but it seems like its true.

I tried not to involve in this but the way you post sometime you think your
advice is important when no one actually cares what you have to say.

You said in post 102 that the instruction said 2-3 times a week, so just follow
the instruction, you already know the answer but reposting again asking the
same questions over and over again, like as if your screws have come loose.

Stop asking people the same questions again and again, you are not going to
get a different answer :mad:

Do not know if its just me but Goatslooter really gets on my nerves, asking the same
thing again and again even when he knows the answer or it has been
answered.

bro, we are consuming something in our stomach without the Authority's green light? Just to be on the safe side! nothing else? you can ignore to answer me. It is safe than say sorry bro ! Thank You. :)

[kittymae]

Dear Confusion,

As you're quite young, I can think the possible reasons are you get tense up or you have performance anxiety issue.

I suppose you need some help from your sex partner. How about getting her to masturbate you or give you oral, stimulating you until you feel you're going to come, then ask her to stop and you penetrate her. I personally like to receive some oral sex or oral stimulation as a foreplay to help me get erected. Or, before you have sex with her, you watch a blue movie together with her to help you get erected and if this can work, probably before the movie ends, you may have already shoot inside her.

Before you reach for any Viagra, I suggest you go for a medical checkup of your heart. Erection is dependent on blood flow. If erection has problem, this may be a sign of blood flow problem or possible blockage to your heart.

Just joined :)
Thanks for sharing this! My guy had similiar "issue", no matter I reassure him he still abit uncertain. Maybe hearing it from a guy will help convince him!

[MichaelScofield]

Just to be on the safe side! nothing else? you
can ignore to answer me. It is safe than say sorry bro ! Thank You. :)

I do not know if you are a troll, but for the last 3 days people have been
telling you Panax is a kind of ginseng, even i understand it, how difficult is
this to understand?

It is safe than say sorry bro

Fine still can give into if you ask once and get your answer, but ask again
and again and again??? They already told you, three guys already write FRs
and said no side effects, still you ask again, i am really starting to think you
are mentally ill :confused:

You are derailing an entire thread with nonsensical questions (fine if you ask
once), but ask again, then you ask again and again, same question how many
times do want them to answer?

Already these guys keep telling you its like tongkat ali coffee, but i can
bet you will ask again. Replying to you really can push my pressure up, i have
never seen a person like you in my life :mad:

[Goatslooter]

I do not know if you are a troll, but for the last 3 days people have been
telling you Panax is a kind of ginseng, even i understand it, how difficult is
this to understand?



Fine still can give into if you ask once and get your answer, but ask again
and again and again??? They already told you, three guys already write FRs
and said no side effects, still you ask again, i am really starting to think you
are mentally ill :confused:

You are derailing an entire thread with nonsensical questions (fine if you ask
once), but ask again, then you ask again and again, same question how many
times do want them to answer?

Already these guys keep telling you its like tongkat ali coffee, but i can
bet you will ask again. Replying to you really can push my pressure up, i have
never seen a person like you in my life :mad:

ok noted! may be old man like me tend to forget or not sure? so pls ignore me for giving you guys so much nonsense questions. I shall disappear from now. :o

[kem5969]

Brother,you may have diabetes. I advise you to go for a check up.
yeah bro full checkup will help to identify root problem