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Vspec
02-04-2008, 07:48 AM
I think ICA scared pp pay money to buy PR.

ya, agree bro. they rather kill wrongly than to let go after so many cases. anyway, if just have income tax but not cpf, is that consider a low chance?

soonkueh
04-04-2008, 08:26 AM
Originally Posted by soonkueh
Dear All. I', not frequent here but hope bros can help me out here. Been dating someone from PRC for sometime now. But she was caught by AV and barred from entering next 3 years. Would like to know options for bringing her in short term and does it mean that they'll never let her in even after 3 years. Marriage is on the cards and i would really like to find out more. Is leaving the only way? Thanks all

I had my application turned down. ICA discouraged me to try again. Any ways to overcome that?

Hi all. Jus hoping to get some advice and ideas. So we've been together for a while now. I met wif an MP and the appeal was turned down. Where do i go from now? Really hope there's a way to bring her here. I've been frequenting there but still hope she can be here wif my only family. Should i apply and appeal again? I will consider leaving in future but still need to do much here. I dun wan distance to affect our r/s. Ps help . Thanks all

kelwong135
07-04-2008, 12:53 AM
Ask the ICA ppl go n eat shit la all are useless i have been waiting for my wife PR for 7 mth and now still no news.call them everytime they will tell me still under process.Ask them to sleep wif snake la.

Vspec
07-04-2008, 08:41 AM
To certain extend I think some nationality of wife n her relatives will affect the application. Cuz if ISD check your wife background they will check her
Bro you got income tax? You self-employed? Did you top-up your medisave yearly? Are you a business man that earn big money?

Just ask yourself... I am self-employed and I never contribute CPF and although got income tax but I hardly pay tax. Now I married a foreigner and wana apply PR for her.


thanks bro for the reply. :)
was asking for a friend and he is getting married, but not yet. he is self employed, did declare tax yearly, but never top up cpf.
hope you will help your wife to get pr soon and please let us know the status if you are ok with that.

kelwong135
08-04-2008, 12:17 PM
Bro can share with us your wife from what country? Her education level? Are you a self-employed? Do you have stable job income and contribute to CPF? Maybe can let us know better why they are delaying.

Hi Bro,
My wife is from myanmar she got no education level.I got stable income and contribute to cpf.I apply 1st time it is being rejected giving the reason saying i got Adverser Record and i appeal to my MP and ICA reopen my case again.ask me to submit all my dox and they ask me to wait for letter but till now i still havent got it.:mad:

Sha_Gua75
08-04-2008, 02:00 PM
Hi Bro,
My wife is from myanmar she got no education level.I got stable income and contribute to cpf.I apply 1st time it is being rejected giving the reason saying i got Adverser Record and i appeal to my MP and ICA reopen my case again.ask me to submit all my dox and they ask me to wait for letter but till now i still havent got it.:mad:

What is Adverser Record?:confused:

naemlo
08-04-2008, 02:12 PM
What is Adverser Record?:confused:

I thought my dictionary limited, yours too. :D

kelwong135
08-04-2008, 02:13 PM
What is Adverser Record?:confused:
adverse record mean bad record ex: go court

kelwong135
08-04-2008, 02:14 PM
I thought my dictionary limited, yours too. :D
hahahahahaha

Sha_Gua75
08-04-2008, 05:52 PM
adverse record mean bad record ex: go court

Adverse Record I know...but earlier u wrote Adverser Report which make me confuse :o

BTW this is your 2nd wife to be?? Since u already have a daughter?

kelwong135
09-04-2008, 10:05 AM
Adverse Record I know...but earlier u wrote Adverser Report which make me confuse :o

BTW this is your 2nd wife to be?? Since u already have a daughter?

This is my first wife and no daughter:confused::confused::confused:

naemlo
09-04-2008, 12:55 PM
BTW this is your 2nd wife to be?? Since u already have a daughter?



This is my first wife and no daughter:confused::confused::confused:

From where u know he is married with a daughter? :confused:

Sha_Gua75
09-04-2008, 01:31 PM
From where u know he is married with a daughter? :confused:

From his own post......

Hi Tim,

Izzit ok that i book a hotel putting only 2 guest but i will be bringing my daughter along so there will be total 3 ppl checking into the hotel.Will there be any extra charge?:confused:

She is 8 years old.Maybe under 1000bhat hotel?Still not comfirm which hotel.Can u Pls Advise?Tks

kelwong135
09-04-2008, 01:40 PM
What is Adverser Record?:confused:

In my post i didnt mention any adverse report i onli mention adverse record.:o

kelwong135
09-04-2008, 01:41 PM
From his own post......

That is my sister and not my daughter.:D

vmtech
09-04-2008, 01:43 PM
In my post i didnt mention any adverse report i onli mention adverse record.:o

hmmm... im pretty sure it was
Hi Bro,
My wife is from myanmar she got no education level.I got stable income and contribute to cpf.I apply 1st time it is being rejected giving the reason saying i got Adverser Record and i appeal to my MP and ICA reopen my case again.ask me to submit all my dox and they ask me to wait for letter but till now i still havent got it.

kelwong135
09-04-2008, 01:47 PM
hmmm... im pretty sure it was

Hi bro U r the man :D

Sha_Gua75
09-04-2008, 02:15 PM
In my post i didnt mention any adverse report i onli mention adverse record.:o

I am talking about the word "adverser" and "adverse".......since u use the word "adverser" which make me confuse

That is my sister and not my daughter.:D

You mentioned in your previous post replying to brother Tim that: "
Izzit ok that i book a hotel putting only 2 guest but i will be bringing my daughter along so there will be total 3 ppl checking into the hotel.Will there be any extra charge?

since when daughter=sister...... if there is really your sister...then it make me wonder how old are u since your "sister" is only 8 yrs old...:confused:

Furthermore in another post to brother Tim, it did say that you have a wife...so i presumed that you will be bringing "your daughter" along and not bringing your "sister" along....

Hi Tim
I'm back from bangkok.I and my wife is happy with the mandarian hotel that i book thru u.The room is big and ceiling is high.The reception ger are very helpful she let me check in early and check out late.The onli thing is that the hotel look old but clean.And mani taxi do not know this hotel i have to show them the hotel card.Thanks.Will book thru u again for my next visit to bangkok.

Hi Tim
Sorry Again Would like to ask u again for Bangkok Centre Hotel izit clean and friendly?I would like to book for it but scare later my wife not happy wif the room ,can i get a good room wif high level if i book from u?Thank you.:)

naemlo
09-04-2008, 02:15 PM
That is my sister and not my daughter.:D

So the 8 yrs old ger is your sister not your daughter... :rolleyes:

kelwong135
09-04-2008, 03:06 PM
So the 8 yrs old ger is your sister not your daughter... :rolleyes:

yup.that is my sister and not my daughter.And the bangkok trip is a family trip not me going there to meet tirak.And y my sister is so young? cos my mother adopted her.BTW i am not veri old.

Sha_Gua75
09-04-2008, 03:28 PM
yup.that is my sister and not my daughter.And the bangkok trip is a family trip not me going there to meet tirak.And y my sister is so young? cos my mother adopted her.BTW i am not veri old.

whatever it is....your previous doesnt tally.....have wife become no wife or maybe "ur wife" is actually "ur mum" now...have daughter become sister....from the way u twist and turn....already shown that u are a "reliable" person

Five Stone
09-04-2008, 05:33 PM
whatever it is....your previous doesnt tally.....have wife become no wife or maybe "ur wife" is actually "ur mum" now...have daughter become sister....from the way u twist and turn....already shown that u are a "reliable" person

I think "thrustable" as well. :D

soonkueh
09-04-2008, 11:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by soonkueh
.......appeal was turned down.........

You married her? Or not yet?

No we're not married. She cannot come so we cannot marry here. I really dunno how. Get MP also no use. They tell me reject no need apply anymore. But i wanna kep trying so if any bros can advice me or show me a path?

kelwong135
10-04-2008, 04:16 PM
whatever it is....your previous doesnt tally.....have wife become no wife or maybe "ur wife" is actually "ur mum" now...have daughter become sister....from the way u twist and turn....already shown that u are a "reliable" person

???????????

Sha_Gua75
10-04-2008, 09:58 PM
???????????

Dont ???? here.....read back your own post and see if u wrote about your sister or your daughter. Read back your own post and see if u ever mention that you and your wife stay at certain hotel. Dont farking act blur here and act virgin. Talk to you nicely roi but seem like talking to idiot. :mad:

If you are sincere about asking for help to your questions, I believe that brothers here will try to answer you with their very best knowledge. But seem that you are talking cock and bull story. Even when I hint strongly about what u have write in the past doesnt seem to affect u. Or is it that you have too many clone that you yourself even forget what u have wrote?!?!?

Already tried to refrain from zapping you earlier but seem that you never wake up. Now will zap u once i recover for acting blur and telling lies and more lies to cover your track

Sha_Gua75
11-04-2008, 12:59 AM
Now will zap u once i recover for acting blur and telling lies and more lies to cover your track

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Instead of zapping you...I made a mistake and up u :mad:

soonkueh
11-04-2008, 01:22 AM
She cannot come singapore, doesnt mean you cannot go her country and ROM her there.
Like many other bros... they married in the girl country and get the cert translated and certified by singapore embassy or ROM. You don't you give a try and see if it works.


I guessed i was scared off by the remarks made by the ICA officer. She said there's a big chance even after the 3 year ban is up they still would not approve her entry. I mean what if we get married and she still cannot come here. Thus i would really like to sort it out. I'm looking into all areas for help. I just want to know if there's any chance of her coming if we get married.

kelwong135
12-04-2008, 01:07 AM
Dont ???? here.....read back your own post and see if u wrote about your sister or your daughter. Read back your own post and see if u ever mention that you and your wife stay at certain hotel. Dont farking act blur here and act virgin. Talk to you nicely roi but seem like talking to idiot. :mad:

If you are sincere about asking for help to your questions, I believe that brothers here will try to answer you with their very best knowledge. But seem that you are talking cock and bull story. Even when I hint strongly about what u have write in the past doesnt seem to affect u. Or is it that you have too many clone that you yourself even forget what u have wrote?!?!?

Already tried to refrain from zapping you earlier but seem that you never wake up. Now will zap u once i recover for acting blur and telling lies and more lies to cover your track

Whatever it is i didnt ask fo ur help and u are the 1 that are looking for all this infor to find fault at ppl:panyway i tell lie or not is non of ur business just carry on flipping the forum and carry on wif ur life and shut up.:cool:And 1 more thing U are the 1 that say i wrote adverse report and now ppl correct u and u not happy.U pai say rite?so any how find fault at ppl rite whatever it is i dun have the time to explain to u this type of ppl here.and 1 more thing if u wan to zap me pls go ahead i dun mind kana zap u are welcome.

Sha_Gua75
12-04-2008, 01:54 AM
Whatever it is i didnt ask fo ur help and u are the 1 that are looking for all this infor to find fault at ppl:panyway i tell lie or not is non of ur business just carry on flipping the forum and carry on wif ur life and shut up.:cool:And 1 more thing U are the 1 that say i wrote adverse report and now ppl correct u and u not happy.U pai say rite?so any how find fault at ppl rite whatever it is i dun have the time to explain to u this type of ppl here.and 1 more thing if u wan to zap me pls go ahead i dun mind kana zap u are welcome.

hello? u blind??? u wrote the word "adverser" so I ask what is "adverser". It is not about the report or record.

u said pple correct me??? I think u better read back all the previous post and see who is the one get corrected by others....seem that your english is way too bad to really understand what other wrote...brother vmtech even posted again to show that you wrote "adverser report" and u can reply "Hi bro U r the man :D" ??? Apparently you have misread his meaning and taken that he supported your "belief"

benben888
12-04-2008, 01:06 PM
There are all kind of ppl who can say all they want but in writing cannot deny.:rolleyes:

vmtech
13-04-2008, 12:28 AM
hello? u blind??? u wrote the word "adverser" so I ask what is "adverser". It is not about the report or record.

u said pple correct me??? I think u better read back all the previous post and see who is the one get corrected by others....seem that your english is way too bad to really understand what other wrote...brother vmtech even posted again to show that you wrote "adverser report" and u can reply "Hi bro U r the man :D" ??? Apparently you have misread his meaning and taken that he supported your "belief"



lol bro shagua .. if he insisted even when black and white is posted, den nvm lo, no need waste forum space arguing on who is right and wrong.

from what i see unless im illiterate, i know he wrote ADVERSER, but somehow i duno how he read he totally read opposite.

i read his post also blur

haha

Sha_Gua75
13-04-2008, 01:16 AM
lol bro shagua .. if he insisted even when black and white is posted, den nvm lo, no need waste forum space arguing on who is right and wrong.

from what i see unless im illiterate, i know he wrote ADVERSER, but somehow i duno how he read he totally read opposite.

i read his post also blur

haha

yea...but then hor...u not illiterate....he is I think :o

vmtech
13-04-2008, 03:58 AM
yea...but then hor...u not illiterate....he is I think :o

hehe nvm la, we'll get back to that this topic is meant originally for bah, dont bcuz of him waste pages on useless arguements :D

postcd
17-04-2008, 01:36 AM
i married my prc wife in jan and she is back in china.
i am applying student pass for her to come sg to study.

some of the info i still "catch no balls"......
so for the birth ceft is "hu kou ben" right?
the sch agent say nope, it is a diff things?
but from the site here i read, some say is "hu kou ben"

and the sch ceft need to be translate..
so can translate it in sg?
if can, can use photocopy items instead of original?
** i remember some1 say can translate in Sub Courts?

for parents details, her parents open small shop selling stuffs in their house.
how to write the details?

anyway, these details is still needed if apply pr for her in future. right?


thanks very much for the help from anyone...

Sha_Gua75
17-04-2008, 02:14 AM
i married my prc wife in jan and she is back in china.
i am applying student pass for her to come sg to study.

some of the info i still "catch no balls"......
so for the birth ceft is "hu kou ben" right?
the sch agent say nope, it is a diff things?
but from the site here i read, some say is "hu kou ben"

and the sch ceft need to be translate..
so can translate it in sg?
if can, can use photocopy items instead of original?
** i remember some1 say can translate in Sub Courts?

for parents details, her parents open small shop selling stuffs in their house.
how to write the details?

anyway, these details is still needed if apply pr for her in future. right?


If i am not wrong, hu kou ben is "household book". As for the translation part, I dont know where it can be done in Singapore but I remember in this thread, if u read thru all u can get the details.

As for her parents details....I dont know how detail u need to write....but when I apply PR for my wife, I write her parents do business and earn how much only....

Lastly, yes all these details and translated copy u will need them when u apply PR for your wife...so make sure u keep the original translated copies.

Maybe SingViet can advise u better about student pass thingy....


But then why dont u just apply PR for ur wife after u marry her in Jan? This will save u alot of trouble as she dont need a student pass to study if she is a PR (Think i am right in this)

SingViet
17-04-2008, 03:20 AM
i married my prc wife in jan and she is back in china.
i am applying student pass for her to come sg to study.

some of the info i still "catch no balls"......
so for the birth ceft is "hu kou ben" right?
the sch agent say nope, it is a diff things?
but from the site here i read, some say is "hu kou ben"

and the sch ceft need to be translate..
so can translate it in sg?
if can, can use photocopy items instead of original?
** i remember some1 say can translate in Sub Courts?

for parents details, her parents open small shop selling stuffs in their house.
how to write the details?

anyway, these details is still needed if apply pr for her in future. right?


thanks very much for the help from anyone...


You should be applying for either LTSVP or PR for your wife if you have officially married her. If for any reason she cannot apply for PR or LTSVP, then she also cannot get her student pass. If u are hoping that she gets her student pass first then get PR later, then this is seriously a wrong move.

postcd
17-04-2008, 04:10 PM
You should be applying for either LTSVP or PR for your wife if you have officially married her. If for any reason she cannot apply for PR or LTSVP, then she also cannot get her student pass. If u are hoping that she gets her student pass first then get PR later, then this is seriously a wrong move.

difficult for me to apply PR for her
as i got no pay income tax for the past few years. only start paying this year.
the salary i earn depend on project management comission so also dont have income slip.

for LTSVP
for what i know, she can only study short course.
am i right?
so intend to apply her for student pass 1st then 2 yrs later PR.

mercuryking
18-04-2008, 10:43 PM
hmm den i dont know already... my friend was just telling me last weekend over a kopi session. i was telling him how hard or expensive it is to apply for wife to study/stay here. he told me not hard, just ROM and everything goes with a click, except applying for PR which looks at the husband's qualifications etc. but applying for school and her to come over was a breeze once he has tat ROM paper.

that's what he told me though..

so after ROM, apply student pass is better?
if the male need not meet those requirement for LTSVP and PR.

solucky0621
20-04-2008, 11:46 AM
difficult for me to apply PR for her
as i got no pay income tax for the past few years. only start paying this year.
the salary i earn depend on project management comission so also dont have income slip.

for LTSVP
for what i know, she can only study short course.
am i right?
so intend to apply her for student pass 1st then 2 yrs later PR.

since you are married, you should try LTSVP first, student pass can apply later, you can take your time and look for the right school. i'm sure ICA will query you if you apply for student pass and not LTSVP or PR. as for translation, please go to supreme court (if i am not wrong the translation place is on the 4th floor), just check with the information counter. best to provide the orignal document. good luck to you.

solucky0621
20-04-2008, 11:58 AM
i married my prc wife in jan and she is back in china.
i am applying student pass for her to come sg to study.

some of the info i still "catch no balls"......
so for the birth ceft is "hu kou ben" right?
the sch agent say nope, it is a diff things?
but from the site here i read, some say is "hu kou ben"

and the sch ceft need to be translate..
so can translate it in sg?
if can, can use photocopy items instead of original?
** i remember some1 say can translate in Sub Courts?

for parents details, her parents open small shop selling stuffs in their house.
how to write the details?

anyway, these details is still needed if apply pr for her in future. right?


thanks very much for the help from anyone...

birth cert is known as 出生证明, different from 户口本 unless for some reasons you don't have it, you will have to use 户口本 like my wife's case. good to translate all documents that are in chinese to avoid being rejected by ICA. either do it in china at their 公证处 or locally at our supreme court. as for parents' details just fill it in in the application form (check out the PR form to have a clearer picture), don't think it's as important as the other information of the applicant.

postcd
20-04-2008, 11:37 PM
okie.
thanks for the advice.

so i will try to apply LTVSP although my documents is not enough.
try try no harm.

so if she had to come back to sg b4 i apply?
or i can apply for her when she is still in china now?
thanks

solucky0621
21-04-2008, 12:44 AM
okie.
thanks for the advice.

so i will try to apply LTVSP although my documents is not enough.
try try no harm.

so if she had to come back to sg b4 i apply?
or i can apply for her when she is still in china now?
thanks

she needs a visa to come back to singapore anyway, you can apply for her.

postcd
21-04-2008, 01:36 AM
she needs a visa to come back to singapore anyway, you can apply for her.

so i need to apply for her right?

apply under Entry PAss or Social Visit Pass?

solucky0621
21-04-2008, 05:36 PM
so i need to apply for her right?

apply under Entry PAss or Social Visit Pass?

social visit pass. that should allow her to stay for up to 30 days upon expiry you can then extend her stay for another 2 months on-line as long as you produce your ROM cert. that should give you ample time to apply for LTSVP

ParaParaSakura
22-04-2008, 05:01 PM
social visit pass. that should allow her to stay for up to 30 days upon expiry you can then extend her stay for another 2 months on-line as long as you produce your ROM cert. that should give you ample time to apply for LTSVP

For my case, I keep going monthly to extend until they fed up & insist that I apply for LTSVP, then after a few times renew LTSVP they "encourage" me to apply PR :)

Sha_Gua75
22-04-2008, 08:55 PM
For my case, I keep going monthly to extend until they fed up & insist that I apply for LTSVP, then after a few times renew LTSVP they "encourage" me to apply PR :)

How come u dont apply for PR from the beginning??

william99
23-04-2008, 01:12 AM
Hi All,
I tried to apply entry visa for my GF for ROM in Singapore but rejected by ICA:(
She never visit Singapore before and this is the first attempt for visa application. If I want to appeal, what should I do and who should I approach ?

Please reply to my inbox as I cannot read the last page of this thread (don't know why).Thanks in advance.

william99
23-04-2008, 03:11 AM
1. Whats her nationality?
China

2. Why are you applying for VISA for her? She should apply herself in her country?
her hometown quite far away from Mission of Singapore

3. She ever commit any offence in her country or?
No

4. Are you sure she never come to SG before? You checked her passport?
Yes, she only get her passport on March 2008, and this is her first passport

wuxi2
23-04-2008, 06:36 AM
bro william99,was the visa you applied is just a normal social visit visa?
if it is,i heard from friends that its normal for ica to reject without any reason.maybe you can try after 2,3 months or maybe ask her to try at her hometown.
try attach the rom date together with the visa application,should not be a problem.:)

william99
23-04-2008, 08:12 AM
What kind of visa did you apply for her?

Sorry but I just kind of find it weird why ICA reject anyone who never been to Singapore and never committed any crime? If she approach an air-travel agency to come Singapore as a tourist, the tourist agency don't help them make the visa?

When you say she live far from MISSION Singapore i think you mean HighComm Singapore? Like that everyone in her hometown can't go tour liao? How far? country side where there is farmland only?

Did you ask ICA why the visa you applied for her was rejected?

Did you know if someone ever repatriated back to own country from singapore, he/she will not be granted an entrance to sg?

ICA didn't give any reason regarding why they reject the visa application,
and didn't email to me to explain the result. I know the result thru their online query system. They didn't leave me any channel I can appeal. That's why I post here to seek for help.

Her hometown is far away from Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Chengdu, and she's not live in any of the cities stated in SAVE system.

I'm sure that she never visit Singapore before, but I can't reveal much abt how I know this. I understand what you suspected about....but this is not the case

william99
23-04-2008, 08:18 AM
bro william99,was the visa you applied is just a normal social visit visa?
if it is,i heard from friends that its normal for ica to reject without any reason.maybe you can try after 2,3 months or maybe ask her to try at her hometown.
try attach the rom date together with the visa application,should not be a problem.:)

I tried to apply entry visa for her to visit for ROM.

I want to ask for an interview but who should I approach? Any idea ?

Tom_Jerry
23-04-2008, 05:29 PM
Alternatively is she apply at china city.

IMHO, Best is to apply in China.

william99
23-04-2008, 10:00 PM
If she is cleared for entry then have you applied for ROM date?

If not then get hold of her passport/id copy info and apply ROM date. Print out the info etc. Walk-in to ICA and do a manual enquiry and apply on the spot if possible. I'm sure in ICA there is someone there at the reception counter who can assist you. Alternatively is she apply at china city.

Just wonder what if I file for ROM at May and ICA's approve her visa on June, can I file for ROM at June again?

postcd
23-04-2008, 10:16 PM
Just wonder what if I file for ROM at May and ICA's approve her visa on June, can I file for ROM at June again?

if u file at May,
u cant cancel and re-apply at june.

in order to apply for a ROM date, both had to be resident within Singapore for at least 15 days.

solucky0621
24-04-2008, 02:46 PM
[QUOTE=william99;2721361]Hi All,
I tried to apply entry visa for my GF for ROM in Singapore but rejected by ICA:(
She never visit Singapore before and this is the first attempt for visa application..............QUOTE]

1. Whats her nationality?

2. Why are you applying for VISA for her? She should apply herself in her country?

3. She ever commit any offence in her country or?

4. Are you sure she never come to SG before? You checked her passport?



to apply visa for ROM you neeed to book a date with ROM, you can do it on-line. then print out the confirmation and that will be your basis for applying visa. but 1st you must make sure you fulfil all requirements stipulated by ROM

DegenerationX
24-04-2008, 02:53 PM
in order to apply for a ROM date, both had to be resident within Singapore for at least 15 days.

only one have to be a resident in Sg for at least 15 days.

wuxi2
25-04-2008, 05:31 AM
I tried to apply entry visa for her to visit for ROM.

I want to ask for an interview but who should I approach? Any idea ?

bro,you should do it the opp way.
get a date at rom,then apply visa.this way will be easier as you got a proper black/white and valid reason for her to be here.

ParaParaSakura
28-04-2008, 10:56 AM
Hi guys, recently i came to know of 'agents' who can offer guaranteed long term stay to foreigners (usually PRCs) for a fee. What they do is help them apply for 'business visas' valid for 2 years. The fee depending on agents can range from SGD5000- 10,000. Is this some kind of scam? Coz i dun wanna see my g/f get cheated.

i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.
For discussion, if spending money to prolong stay which in your views is the best way to go? Kindly share, thanks.

DegenerationX
28-04-2008, 11:35 AM
Hi guys, recently i came to know of 'agents' who can offer guaranteed long term stay to foreigners (usually PRCs) for a fee. What they do is help them apply for 'business visas' valid for 2 years. The fee depending on agents can range from SGD5000- 10,000. Is this some kind of scam? Coz i dun wanna see my g/f get cheated.

i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.
For discussion, if spending money to prolong stay which in your views is the best way to go? Kindly share, thanks.

yup. i have heard of this 'business visa' too but not sure how it actually works

happy000
28-04-2008, 11:47 AM
I know of 1 PRC WL who has a two year visa -- I don't know whether it is a social or business but she did tell me she paid about S$10,000 to a agent in PRC for it.

However it is still subject to a entry visa from the ICA. Whenever she come to Singapore she will be given a two week or 1 month visa. She can extend for another 2 week or 1 month depending on the discretion of immigration officer.

Hi guys, recently i came to know of 'agents' who can offer guaranteed long term stay to foreigners (usually PRCs) for a fee. What they do is help them apply for 'business visas' valid for 2 years. The fee depending on agents can range from SGD5000- 10,000. Is this some kind of scam? Coz i dun wanna see my g/f get cheated.

i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.
For discussion, if spending money to prolong stay which in your views is the best way to go? Kindly share, thanks.

icecum
28-04-2008, 09:18 PM
Yo to all bro in here need your help on behalf of my
My frd his wife it not a PR yet..... he is a (SG man) and she it a (PRC girl) the girl just a LTSVP he love her in the 1st place it the feeling but later on they after 3yr togethere things had been change, look like no more love, feeling & concern last last time before they are togethere liao..... now my frd keep going to ktv to drink after his 2nd gf went back to china liao

and his 2nd gf wanted to get married asap cause she not young liao she 30 if not wrong she it a divorce woman back in china..... my frd think that she it the right girl for her liao cause when last time he and his wife when dating togethere she don't so concern and caring after a yr been togethere then both get married..... and his this 2nd gf just with her a months plus she really concern him alot lor maybe you guys might said she going after his money or get married to get PR but my frd are not that rich at all and he unable to get a PR for her as well but that girl don't mind....

By the way my that frd have not told his 2nd gf that he's married.... what u guy/bro think should he tell his 2nd gf back in china tell her the true that his married?

Sorry alot of QQQ hope you guy can help my this poor sad frd, when i see him i also petty him lor....from the way he said and i saw her i can feel that my frd meet a gd girl and this girl it also real for him

My frd might wanted to get dirvoce with his wife and stay with his 2nd gf lor

naemlo
28-04-2008, 09:22 PM
i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.


Yes there is... :cool:

naemlo
28-04-2008, 09:23 PM
yup. i have heard of this 'business visa' too but not sure how it actually works

Simple as ABC... :D

naemlo
28-04-2008, 09:27 PM
Sorry alot of QQQ hope you guy can help my this poor sad frd, when i see him i also petty him lor....from the way he said and i saw her i can feel that my frd meet a gd girl and this girl it also real for him

My frd might wanted to get dirvoce with his wife and stay with his 2nd gf lor

Tell his new GF the truth then divorce the present n marry the new. :D

What so difficult? It is his life... we can't decide for him. :D

icecum
28-04-2008, 09:37 PM
Yo bro i also told him that but u know it not easy to divorce lor u just can't tell the law that u don't love her liao lor......he got got an ask before that why he now very the head pain

Tell his new GF the truth then divorce the present n marry the new. :D

What so difficult? It is his life... we can't decide for him. :D

naemlo
28-04-2008, 09:42 PM
Yo bro i also told him that but u know it not easy to divorce lor u just can't tell the law that u don't love her liao lor......he got got an ask before that why he now very the head pain


Hmmm I guess this happen to a lot of ppl. Together for a long time, then meet another caring person, feel sick with the old one..... Life is never satisfy. :D

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:24 PM
Hi guys, recently i came to know of 'agents' who can offer guaranteed long term stay to foreigners (usually PRCs) for a fee. What they do is help them apply for 'business visas' valid for 2 years. The fee depending on agents can range from SGD5000- 10,000. Is this some kind of scam? Coz i dun wanna see my g/f get cheated.

i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.
For discussion, if spending money to prolong stay which in your views is the best way to go? Kindly share, thanks.

might as well do student pass
can stay longer and learn english.

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Hi guys, recently i came to know of 'agents' who can offer guaranteed long term stay to foreigners (usually PRCs) for a fee. What they do is help them apply for 'business visas' valid for 2 years. The fee depending on agents can range from SGD5000- 10,000. Is this some kind of scam? Coz i dun wanna see my g/f get cheated.

i have heard of PRCs prolonging stays with student passes, PDMM & even fake marriages but 1st time heard of this business visas.
For discussion, if spending money to prolong stay which in your views is the best way to go? Kindly share, thanks.

yes, it is not a scam but real stuff?
how it work?

the agent will get a company letterhead letter to say that the company is asking the ger to come sg for business trip.
the ICA will give 2 yr business pass.
in this 2 yr, they can come multiple trip,
each time range for 30days + extend 14 days.
after they go back, they had to stay in china a certain days before they can come sg again. if i not wrong, it is 30 days.

but if the company, suddenly close down or watever, the business pass can be cancel.
your gf 50% time in sg, 50% time in china
you think the $$$ will spend?

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:47 PM
I know of 1 PRC WL who has a two year visa -- I don't know whether it is a social or business but she did tell me she paid about S$10,000 to a agent in PRC for it.

However it is still subject to a entry visa from the ICA. Whenever she come to Singapore she will be given a two week or 1 month visa. She can extend for another 2 week or 1 month depending on the discretion of immigration officer.

ya.
mostly those above 25 yrs old will go for business visa to come singapore often.
and those below 25 will come sg for student pass.

most case for business pass is 30days + 14 days
but if u come too often, will become 14 days + 14 days

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:52 PM
I think better don't waste the $ leh if she can come in using other visas which is in the legal way.... my concern is scali the business visas is tag to some company.....and that company is a hooker/pimp/scam company.... then later kana big time from that and banned from coming again.

Sg is always LAW BY LAW..... dont pray play better.... if want to get better seek ICA opinion first.

lol....
i dont think agent will put hooker/pimp/scam company
mostly is a trading company or a "empty" company

they just register a trading company
(trading mostly easier link to china, say they supplier's agent)
then they make the company letter head and stamp
then they use it to apply for those gers to come sg

but ICA not stupid lor
if the agent use the same company to apply 20 over gers per year.
so mostly the agent had 20-30 companies on hand to apply.

and the business visa will be cancel if the sg company is close down.
so the risk is very high especially is a "empty" company.

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:54 PM
Yo to all bro in here need your help on behalf of my
My frd his wife it not a PR yet..... he is a (SG man) and she it a (PRC girl) the girl just a LTSVP he love her in the 1st place it the feeling but later on they after 3yr togethere things had been change, look like no more love, feeling & concern last last time before they are togethere liao..... now my frd keep going to ktv to drink after his 2nd gf went back to china liao

and his 2nd gf wanted to get married asap cause she not young liao she 30 if not wrong she it a divorce woman back in china..... my frd think that she it the right girl for her liao cause when last time he and his wife when dating togethere she don't so concern and caring after a yr been togethere then both get married..... and his this 2nd gf just with her a months plus she really concern him alot lor maybe you guys might said she going after his money or get married to get PR but my frd are not that rich at all and he unable to get a PR for her as well but that girl don't mind....

By the way my that frd have not told his 2nd gf that he's married.... what u guy/bro think should he tell his 2nd gf back in china tell her the true that his married?

Sorry alot of QQQ hope you guy can help my this poor sad frd, when i see him i also petty him lor....from the way he said and i saw her i can feel that my frd meet a gd girl and this girl it also real for him

My frd might wanted to get dirvoce with his wife and stay with his 2nd gf lor

to be frank, your frd already make up his mind.
just intro him a lawyer will do.

postcd
29-04-2008, 04:55 PM
Yes there is... :cool:

ya.
it had been around for so many yrs liao.
if i could remember, 7-8 yrs ago already had such things liao.
just that most PRC ger dun do it.

wuxi2
30-04-2008, 10:45 AM
the ICA will give 2 yr business pass.
in this 2 yr, they can come multiple trip,
each time range for 30days + extend 14 days.
after they go back, they had to stay in china a certain days before they can come sg again. if i not wrong, it is 30 days.


agree.though its 2 years visa,that dont mean she can be here for 2 years.
its still a multiple visa and NTL is still a possibilitity.if her city can only have short term visa,can consider.
like another bro mentioned,try student visa better,can stay all the way and learn english at the same time.

happy000
30-04-2008, 11:16 AM
For PRC, if they are applying for student pass they need to go Singapore embassy in Beijing with all the documentation and it include a certifcation from a bank they have a fixed deposit of RMY160,000 for six months.

agree.though its 2 years visa,that dont mean she can be here for 2 years.
its still a multiple visa and NTL is still a possibilitity.if her city can only have short term visa,can consider.
like another bro mentioned,try student visa better,can stay all the way and learn english at the same time.

postcd
30-04-2008, 11:42 AM
For PRC, if they are applying for student pass they need to go Singapore embassy in Beijing with all the documentation and it include a certifcation from a bank they have a fixed deposit of RMY160,000 for six months.

for those private sch that register with moe(ministry of education) ,
the want-to-be students no more need to go singapore embassy in beijing for interview liao...

as for fixed deposit, that can be settle for a fees by those bank manager in china bank.
in china, as long as you got the CASH, everything works.

postcd
30-04-2008, 11:46 AM
agree.though its 2 years visa,that dont mean she can be here for 2 years.
its still a multiple visa and NTL is still a possibilitity.if her city can only have short term visa,can consider.
like another bro mentioned,try student visa better,can stay all the way and learn english at the same time.

what is NTL?

yes, that why i suggest student pass from the start.
the business visa is totally useless.
scare that the student dun have bank fixed deposit, dun have high sch cerf, etc
i can help u enroll to a pte sch...

ya lor, then become her sponsor, if she betray u, u can cancel her student pass? lol...

wuxi2
01-05-2008, 07:13 AM
what is NTL?


Not To Land bro.
which means kena reject come in spore during immigration.no reason given,totally at their discrection!

for those private sch that register with moe(ministry of education) ,
the want-to-be students no more need to go singapore embassy in beijing for interview liao...

as for fixed deposit, that can be settle for a fees by those bank manager in china bank.
in china, as long as you got the CASH, everything works.

thanks for the info bro.
agree with the bank account.a token sum of money will in return get u the figure u want in yr account!fake of course!:D

Heart Break Kid
01-05-2008, 02:27 PM
Too al bros who getting their foreigner wife to come sg.

IMHO, you can do anything outside sg but never do anything illegal in sg cuz some country can undertable but if she kana ban in sg thats it bro. never get to step in sg again.:(

Bro Norikasan55 is right .. :p

Any possibility of us ..using our name as sponsor to apply a short term social visit pass (say 3 months) for our PRC gf to stay in S'pore ??

Money on deposit in ICA - no issue ..as long as don't go thru agents :D

postcd
02-05-2008, 12:20 AM
Bro Norikasan55 is right .. :p

Any possibility of us ..using our name as sponsor to apply a short term social visit pass (say 3 months) for our PRC gf to stay in S'pore ??

Money on deposit in ICA - no issue ..as long as don't go thru agents :D

yes, u can do that.
but 3 mths is impossible.
most likely is 30 days + extend of another 14 days.

DegenerationX
02-05-2008, 10:19 AM
bros, recently my brother has applied for the renewal of his wife LTSVP via ica website. apparently, ica send him an email saying that they are please to consider his application and requires his wife to report to ica for documents verification. In the letter, it also states that having this letter does not assure of an approved application.

So does it mean that after submitting the documents to ica, still have to wait for approval and it might have a possibility of being rejected?

any bros here can advise on this?

Heart Break Kid
03-05-2008, 01:32 PM
yes, u can do that.
but 3 mths is impossible.
most likely is 30 days + extend of another 14 days.

Thank bro :p

postcd
03-05-2008, 04:37 PM
Thank bro :p

u r welcome.
if she wan to stay in sg like a yr,
i would suggest do student pass better.
still can learn eng.

draco181
04-05-2008, 01:53 PM
Hi Bros,

I have a question with regards to marrying a foreigner. My girlfriend is from PRC. She had a customary marriage before but has been divorced from her ex husband since. When applying for a visa/social vist pass for her, do i indicate her martial status as single or divorce in the Form 14. Also, what documents should i show to the ICA as proof of her marital status. She does not have an official divorce certificate as her marriage is only customary. Would a certification by the Civil Registry Office be sufficient? Really appreciate any advice on this.

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Bro Norikasan55 is right .. :p

Any possibility of us ..using our name as sponsor to apply a short term social visit pass (say 3 months) for our PRC gf to stay in S'pore ??

Money on deposit in ICA - no issue ..as long as don't go thru agents :D

Must apply thru authorise travel agent in china, 30days the most....with deposit SGD$1000....if she got go thru agent before, sorry u can't able to access it at all, u r not his real husband, only gf, ICA don bother/believe sure excuse nowadays...strictly 100% unapproved visa cum gua. for yr case...:)

Sha_Gua75
04-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Must apply thru authorise travel agent in china, 30days the most....with deposit SGD$1000....if she got go thru agent before, sorry u can't able to access it at all, u r not his real husband, only gf, ICA don bother/believe sure excuse nowadays...strictly 100% unapproved visa cum gua. for yr case...:)

ahpaul25 what happen? how come use this nick liao? :o BTW your previous post of what ICA new ruling etc etc doesnt seem to be true

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Hi Bros,

I have a question with regards to marrying a foreigner. My girlfriend is from PRC. She had a customary marriage before but has been divorced from her ex husband since. When applying for a visa/social vist pass for her, do i indicate her martial status as single or divorce in the Form 14. Also, what documents should i show to the ICA as proof of her marital status. She does not have an official divorce certificate as her marriage is only customary. Would a certification by the Civil Registry Office be sufficient? Really appreciate any advice on this.

Indicate divorced....anyway, yr case is hard to get u any further with her, as ICA have run a new system....it very silm case for u bro...Thanks

Sha_Gua75
04-05-2008, 09:57 PM
ICA have run a new system....it very silm case for u bro...Thanks

OMG....Not again...... "new system" again

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:07 PM
ahpaul25 what happen? how come use this nick liao? :o BTW your previous post of what ICA new ruling etc etc doesnt seem to be true

My old nick account error leh....LOL...have to wait awhile to use it....System really changed not long ago....it is not easy to access than before, Can't comment much....Hope u guys can married yr foreigner wife.....esp. PRC

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:08 PM
OMG....Not again...... "new system" again

If u wish to blame, blame that terrorist guy lor.....HIGH KEY!

Sha_Gua75
04-05-2008, 10:10 PM
My old nick account error leh....LOL...have to wait awhile to use it....System really changed not long ago....it is not easy to access than before, Can't comment much....Hope u guys can married yr foreigner wife.....esp. PRC

wah u very good leh...previously use this nick to write something and use ur ahpaul25 nick to say what this nick said is correct :D

Sha_Gua75
04-05-2008, 10:11 PM
If u wish to blame, blame that terrorist guy lor.....HIGH KEY!

U win liao lor.....ICA system change for PRC u also can link to MSK.....u no. 1 :cool:

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:17 PM
What new system? can elaborate for the benefits of all?:confused:

A word to describe....TRANSPARENT!


wah u very good leh...previously use this nick to write something and use ur ahpaul25 nick to say what this nick said is correct

Haiya.....My didi use my account ma....don like that suan me leh...next time, need u guys to support me leh...


U win liao lor.....ICA system change for PRC u also can link to MSK.....u no. 1

Really lah.......1 day u will believe me....:cool:

naemlo
04-05-2008, 10:18 PM
Indicate divorced....anyway, yr case is hard to get u any further with her, as ICA have run a new system....it very silm case for u bro...Thanks

Y indicate divorce? When legally there is no cert to proof she married b4? :rolleyes:

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:25 PM
Y indicate divorce? When legally there is no cert to proof she married b4? :rolleyes:

Bcos if u place single, once ICA check with system, and spotted a different status, they will disapproved yr visa as they will think that you r not sincere with them, if u apply divorce, they will do a check on the system wonder it TRUE....secondly, we can't 100% trust PRC in terms of sure issue....some PRC are very blur or act blur....u get what I mean....

naemlo
04-05-2008, 10:39 PM
Bcos if u place single, once ICA check with system, and spotted a different status, they will disapproved yr visa as they will think that you r not sincere with them, if u apply divorce, they will do a check on the system wonder it TRUE....secondly, we can't 100% trust PRC in terms of sure issue....some PRC are very blur or act blur....u get what I mean....

U made me blur..... no paper at the first place, how the authority has the updated marriage status? A wedding dinner dun indicate a legal marriage. So in China if I held dinners with various women, I'm married a few times? Which is an offence??

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:40 PM
but if she kana ban in sg thats it bro. never get to step in sg again.:(

There's still silm chance 25% to get in, I already seem some live cases....it depend on yr reasons and how sincerity of her...:)

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 10:47 PM
U made me blur..... no paper at the first place, how the authority has the updated marriage status? A wedding dinner dun indicate a legal marriage. So in China if I held dinners with various women, I'm married a few times? Which is an offence??

Not the authority problem, it the lady problem, some prc are joker, they always acting blur, it better to play safe than sorry....secondly TS did not know her background much, just based on a trust to believe her word of mouth, say she did not, what if she did....unless she able to get a cert. prove from china beijing embassy endorsement to prove her single status, then I will ask him to state as single, but now, my answer still Divorced....as I always don trust them much even many of my gfs are PRC. :) This might not apply to most of u guys, but it a safer lvl for me as singaporean.

naemlo
04-05-2008, 10:54 PM
my answer still Divorced....as I always don trust them much even many of my gfs are PRC. :) This might not apply to most of u guys, but it a safer lvl for me as singaporean.

Contradict. If the authority status is single?? :rolleyes:

naemlo
04-05-2008, 10:56 PM
yalor no one can prove she was once married leh.

I am more curious if she declare as divorcee, will ICA stop her from coming in?

My question.....a divorcee get lesser chance ICA approval?


This is a joke, divorcee less chance??? :rolleyes:

I guess he is joking with us.

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Contradict. If the authority status is single?? :rolleyes:

Don worry for the status result if she really SINGLE, it all TRANSPARENT in their NEW system.....:D we rather key wrong than make a guess....still have many things to learnt from them....:)

My question.....a divorcee get lesser chance ICA approval?

Hmmm........ICA check on many factors, 1st background, working experience,etc....chances is all depend, but if you able to get a lawyer to help you, hehehe, processing will be fast and gd results will be out.

naemlo
04-05-2008, 11:10 PM
Bcos if u place single, once ICA check with system, and spotted a different status, they will disapproved yr visa as they will think that you r not sincere with them, if u apply divorce, they will do a check on the system wonder it TRUE....



Don worry for the status result if she really SINGLE, it all TRANSPARENT in their NEW system.....:D we rather key wrong than make a guess....still have many things to learnt from them....:)



Hmmm........ICA check on many factors, 1st background, working experience,etc....chances is all depend, but if you able to get a lawyer to help you, hehehe, processing will be fast and gd results will be out.


Amazing replies..... :eek: Bring ppl around the world n end up in hor lan... :D

Mrxhub
04-05-2008, 11:50 PM
Amazing replies..... :eek: Bring ppl around the world n end up in hor lan... :D

I can't comment much la bro.... (@_@) if u understand.....:o.......EVERYONE LEARNT FROM MISTAKES....SO ARE THEY!......unless she able to get a cert. prove from china beijing embassy endorsement to prove her single status, then I will ask him to state as single, but now, my answer still Divorced....as I always don trust them much even many of my gfs are PRC. This might not apply to most of u guys, but it a safer lvl for me as singaporean. Try to understand la, there no proof to show from TS what the actual info and fact he get from his so called gf, hope u get my points...Lawyer can help alot to fasten yr process....

Sha_Gua75
05-05-2008, 09:32 PM
I can't comment much la bro.... (@_@) if u understand.....:o.......EVERYONE LEARNT FROM MISTAKES....SO ARE THEY!......unless she able to get a cert. prove from china beijing embassy endorsement to prove her single status, then I will ask him to state as single, but now, my answer still Divorced....as I always don trust them much even many of my gfs are PRC. This might not apply to most of u guys, but it a safer lvl for me as singaporean. Try to understand la, there no proof to show from TS what the actual info and fact he get from his so called gf, hope u get my points...Lawyer can help alot to fasten yr process....


If dont trust then marry for fark.....if they really want to cheat...then maybe there is a way to get fake singlehood document??

Anyway your comment below when u using ahpual25(while having this clone nick Mrxhub) doesnt seem to be right leh....that only 2 of the comment u make....as for the rest I am lazy to dig out...it always make me wonder the thing u said is base of your "smartness" or what :rolleyes:

Yr salary pay can't made PR for yr PRC wife........min. $3.5k with 2yrs cpf......secondly, does yr PRC gf taking degree cert.? Now LTSVP is very strict....only for degree holder and approve by MOM....either both yr parent can gua. her with min. income 5k+....or either a 3yrs profitable company under yr name....then ICA will approve her stay long in singapore, if not, u can forgot it....they don bother u at all.......

Many things changed this year.....due to Singapore is expanding it FINANCE plan, Last time is SGD$2.5k.....now increase to SGD$3.5k,then can make yr wife PR lah....Haiz....LIFE here is getting more and more hard.


The reasons why I said you are bullshitting sometimes is:
1) my brother himself dont earn even 1.5k per month and still got his wife PR followed by Citizen.
2) I dont earn 3.5k per month and my wife got her PR on 1st try.
3) Both my sis-in-law and my wife dont have a degree.
4) I dont even apply for LTSVP for my wife but straight for PR.
5) When I go collect PR with my wife....I talk to another girl who also got her PR...she is working in Singapore and not even earning more than 3k monthly but still got her PR (not married to local guy)


So if it is as wat you say ICA is very strict for LTSVP, I will presume that PR will be even stricter....No degree No 3.5k but still can get PR....maybe luck...maybe

naemlo
05-05-2008, 09:36 PM
So if it is as wat you say ICA is very strict for LTSVP, I will presume that PR will be even stricter....No degree No 3.5k but still can get PR....maybe luck...maybe

Did u engage a lawyer to help u? :D :D :D

Sha_Gua75
05-05-2008, 10:11 PM
Did u engage a lawyer to help u? :D :D :D

Have....Lawyer S_G :o

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 10:28 PM
If dont trust then marry for fark.....if they really want to cheat...then maybe there is a way to get fake singlehood document??

In china, everything is possible, even FAKE DOCUMENT as long they willingly to pay.....they came so far is to earn $$$, they will slowly request you to get their PR here, then they marry with u for 3 to 5yrs, later then divorced with you to get half of yr wealth....many PRC knew abt singapore laws....it better to play safe bro....can u tell me heartly u trusted yr PRC wife 101%? What IF u kenna the above situation, how are u going to react? At that time, everything is GONE.....:o Not all PRC are that bad, just be careful...We play our part as singaporean.


Anyway your comment below when u using ahpual25(while having this clone nick Mrxhub) doesnt seem to be right leh....that only 2 of the comment u make....as for the rest I am lazy to dig out...it always make me wonder the thing u said is base of your "smartness" or what :rolleyes:

I always use ahpaul25.....sometimes use my bro account if mine cannot log in...dig out my past comment, no point la bro, we are here to share comments and everything valuable info.

digital
05-05-2008, 10:37 PM
do i indicate her martial status as single or divorce in the Form 14. Also, what documents should i show to the ICA as proof of her marital status. She does not have an official divorce certificate as her marriage is only customary. Would a certification by the Civil Registry Office be sufficient?

Indicate divorced....anyway, yr case is hard to get u any further with her, as ICA have run a new system....it very silm case for u bro...Thanks

Bcos if u place single, once ICA check with system, and spotted a different status, they will disapproved yr visa as they will think that you r not sincere with them, if u apply divorce, they will do a check on the system wonder it TRUE....secondly, we can't 100% trust PRC in terms of sure issue....some PRC are very blur or act blur....u get what I mean....
You are really acting smart, what happen if the PRC are telling the truth, she is really single? ICA check and found she is single but u indicate as Divorce? Will ICA think u are not sincere with them?

The reasons why I said you are bullshitting sometimes is:
1) my brother himself dont earn even 1.5k per month and still got his wife PR followed by Citizen.
2) I dont earn 3.5k per month and my wife got her PR on 1st try.
3) Both my sis-in-law and my wife dont have a degree.
4) I dont even apply for LTSVP for my wife but straight for PR.
5) When I go collect PR with my wife....I talk to another girl who also got her PR...she is working in Singapore and not even earning more than 3k monthly but still got her PR (not married to local guy)
I confirm your statement is true, my PRC wife never even completed her Secordary School in China, I manage to apply for her PR during 1st try.
Important thing is to be truthful to ICA. :D

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 10:44 PM
The reasons why I said you are bullshitting sometimes is:
1) my brother himself dont earn even 1.5k per month and still got his wife PR followed by Citizen.
2) I dont earn 3.5k per month and my wife got her PR on 1st try.
3) Both my sis-in-law and my wife dont have a degree.
4) I dont even apply for LTSVP for my wife but straight for PR.
5) When I go collect PR with my wife....I talk to another girl who also got her PR...she is working in Singapore and not even earning more than 3k monthly but still got her PR (not married to local guy)


So if it is as wat you say ICA is very strict for LTSVP, I will presume that PR will be even stricter....No degree No 3.5k but still can get PR....maybe luck...maybe

U & yr bro it's past liao.how long ago liao?...u ask those who apply now and then.....it very hard for them to grab LTSVP for their wife/gf nowadays ESP PRC.....that girl u mention is got her PR is due to yrs of working in singapore, and did not have bad records during her working period....those who wish to get fast PR, must work with govt. related job or been working here for years without any bad records filed.....ICA will check yr records to understand the movement of u and yr wife before approved her status here....

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 10:55 PM
You are really acting smart, what happen if the PRC are telling the truth, she is really single? ICA check and found she is single but u indicate as Divorce? Will ICA think u are not sincere with them?

I get yr point...as mention above...we go by proof....if she able to prove with document by china embassy to show you.....it's safe....btwn is that she mention she did not married yet without filing any document in china, how are u going to ensure it??? By words of mouth, even lawyer will ask you to get a endorsement from china embassy to play safe....

I confirm your statement is true, my PRC wife never even completed her Secordary School in China, I manage to apply for her PR during 1st try.
Important thing is to be truthful to ICA. :D

May I know when did u apply? Secondly yr age, yr occupation, my uncle at age 52 also marry a uneducated primary auntie of age 45 to singapore....all this are in a past....:)

naemlo
05-05-2008, 11:02 PM
Prata price has went up.... flip here n there, now $0.7 a piece. :D

digital
05-05-2008, 11:08 PM
I get yr point...as mention above...we go by proof....if she able to prove with document by china embassy to show you.....it's safe....btwn is that she mention she did not married yet without filing any document in china, how are u going to ensure it??? By words of mouth, even lawyer will ask you to get a endorsement from china embassy to play safe....
This is absolutely rubbish, ICA is not concern about ppl entering Sg whether they are Single, Married, Divorce, widow or whatsoever. Their main concern is whether the person is a threat to Sg. And if they deem not a threat, do they have a trustworthy Sporean/PR as a sponsor?

Whether the PRC is a single/married/divorce is check by ROM when you register.

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 11:14 PM
Prata price has went up.... flip here n there, now $0.7 a piece. :D

Bro, u may not get my point of understanding, everything go by proof, we can't trust PRC in terms of word of mouth, I always ask them to proof me, so I can get more real info abt them.

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 11:19 PM
Whether the PRC is a single/married/divorce is check by ROM when you register.

Then HOW are u going to prove PRC status.....they still need to get their own country embassy booklet to photocopy to ROM....now u get my picture!

digital
05-05-2008, 11:21 PM
In china, everything is possible, even FAKE DOCUMENT as long they willingly to pay.....they came so far is to earn $$$, they will slowly request you to get their PR here,

Bro, u may not get my point of understanding, everything go by proof, we can't trust PRC in terms of word of mouth, I always ask them to proof me, so I can get more real info abt them.
U know even Document also can Fake but u still asking for document proof? :confused: U are only helping 'fake lawyer' to make a living. ;)

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 11:28 PM
U know even Document also can Fake but u still asking for document proof? :confused: U are only helping 'fake lawyer' to make a living. ;)

You see bro, maybe it my explanation, not that clear, that make u guys all in confusion.....sorry abt it...why I asking document proof, 1st is to ensure she giving a real identify of herself, of coz, I will inform them, if any false report given, they will not given a status here, everything go by book & proof....secondly, to help our singaporean guy to ensure that their gf is geniune married to him....the most fear I seem before, it the guy don even know their real background info when married, that why some singaporean kenna cheated, and kpkb abt PRC.....why let it happen where u can prevent it earlier....:)

digital
05-05-2008, 11:30 PM
Hi Bros,

I have a question with regards to marrying a foreigner. My girlfriend is from PRC. She had a customary marriage before but has been divorced from her ex husband since. When applying for a visa/social vist pass for her, do i indicate her martial status as single or divorce in the Form 14. Also, what documents should i show to the ICA as proof of her marital status. She does not have an official divorce certificate as her marriage is only customary. Would a certification by the Civil Registry Office be sufficient? Really appreciate any advice on this.

Then HOW are u going to prove PRC status.....they still need to get their own country embassy booklet to photocopy to ROM....now u get my picture!
Prove what PRC status at this moment??? He is just apply for SVP to enter Sg, like I said b4, you just have to accept what she said. Declared as Single if she say she is Single. Why need to declared as divorce?

digital
05-05-2008, 11:35 PM
You see bro, maybe it my explanation, not that clear, that make u guys all in confusion.....sorry abt it...why I asking document proof, 1st is to ensure she giving a real identify of herself, of coz, I will inform them, if any false report given, they will not given a status here, everything go by book & proof....secondly, to help our singaporean guy to ensure that their gf is geniune married to him....the most fear I seem before, it the guy don even know their real background info when married, that why some singaporean kenna cheated, and kpkb abt PRC.....why let it happen where u can prevent it earlier....
By the way, u working as ? Agent for Visa application cum ROM arrangement? :confused:

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 11:49 PM
Prove what PRC status at this moment??? He is just apply for SVP to enter Sg, like I said b4, you just have to accept what she said. Declared as Single if she say she is Single. Why need to declared as divorce?

Bro, best is ask TS to ensure her status before apply....Ensure everything before doing thing further.....as for me, I seem too many PRC liao, I abit scared abt them, as they open tok to me, I was shocked when they mention to me what they get after divorced,etc....:eek:

Mrxhub
05-05-2008, 11:53 PM
By the way, u working as ? Agent for Visa application cum ROM arrangement? :confused:

Can't comment much.........just to ensure all samsters bro here happily married.....:)

digital
06-05-2008, 12:03 AM
Bro, best is ask TS to ensure her status before apply....Ensure everything before doing thing further.....as for me, I seem too many PRC liao, I abit scared abt them, as they open tok to me, I was shocked when they mention to me what they get after divorced,etc...
Seen too many PRC??
U seen it cos the surrounding circle of your friend and the type of PRC girl they had married.

U read in WanBao cos they are only reporting the 'Bad Apple', have you ever seen WanBao reporting Sg Man & PRC girl happily married?

I guess you are just a Frog living in a Well.

TS is old enough to get married, I guess he should be old to think whether this girl is right for him.

No point for him to declared something which may not be true. He just have to declared what he believe to be true.

Mrxhub
06-05-2008, 12:11 AM
Seen too many PRC??
U seen it cos the surrounding circle of your friend and the type of PRC girl they had married.

U read in WanBao cos they are only reporting the 'Bad Apple', have you ever seen WanBao reporting Sg Man & PRC girl happily married?

I guess you are just a Frog living in a Well.

TS is old enough to get married, I guess he should be old to think whether this girl is right for him.

No point for him to declared something which may not be true. He just have to declared what he believe to be true.

I get their points bro, You are right, it the circle of frds but still, I'm here just to let our TS to ensure before commit it....hope he get our points of study...the PRO and CONS

digital
06-05-2008, 12:13 AM
Can't comment much.........just to ensure all samsters bro here happily married....
Cant comment mean there is certain of percetage of what I said is true. :rolleyes:

Earning a decent living and helping ppl is good, creating unneccessary complication/confusion to 'squeeze' money is a definate no no here.

Hope you get what I mean. :rolleyes:

Mrxhub
06-05-2008, 12:25 AM
Cant comment mean there is certain of percetage of what I said is true. :rolleyes:

Earning a decent living and helping ppl is good, creating unneccessary complication/confusion to 'squeeze' money is a definate no no here.

Hope you get what I mean. :rolleyes:

I do get what you mean bro, come here make confusion squeese $$ /create unneccessary are a nono task to me, but it to create awareness for our fellow samsters as singaporean to play safe....no proof don believe. Everything need evidence, just like singapore laws.

digital
06-05-2008, 12:35 AM
I do get what you mean bro, come here make confusion squeese $$ /create unneccessary are a nono task to me, but it to create awareness for our fellow samsters as singaporean to play safe....no proof don believe. Everything need evidence, just like singapore laws.
Ok we shall let the matter RIP here, let TS decide what to declared in the Form cos only he have seen the girl and know her background.

No point asking for proof cos as u know everything can be fake there.

ryanlim
06-05-2008, 02:10 AM
U & yr bro it's past liao.how long ago liao?...u ask those who apply now and then.....

ahpaul25............ does your "now" means after 19th Dec 07, 12.33am when you announce to SBF in your reply to mercuryking that min. $3.5k is needed to apply PR as ICA has just changed their requirement from SGD$2.5k to SGD$3.5k due to Singapore is expanding it FINANCE plan??????????

:confused: :confused:

ryanlim
06-05-2008, 03:00 AM
har?!?! what 2.5k or 3.5k?

pls read from page 77 post number 1152 (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/29269-foreigner-wife-77.html) til page 78 post number 1170 (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/adult-discussions-about-sex/29269-foreigner-wife-78.html).................

:)

Rof|maoxz
06-05-2008, 09:28 AM
I have a question with regards to marrying a foreigner. My girlfriend is from PRC. She had a customary marriage before but has been divorced from her ex husband since. When applying for a visa/social vist pass for her, do i indicate her martial status as single or divorce in the Form 14. Also, what documents should i show to the ICA as proof of her marital status. She does not have an official divorce certificate as her marriage is only customary. Would a certification by the Civil Registry Office be sufficient? Really appreciate any advice on this.

From your account, customary marriage are considered "husband and wife" in the eyes of their relative and in-laws only etc, not unless they obtained the marriage certificate from Marriage Registration Administrative Office (Urban areas) or the Civil Affairs Department. If they have not registered their marriage from any of these 2 agency, they are not considered legally married, and need not go thru' divorce proceedings. Btw, has your gerfrd gotten out of this mess already??

Furthermore if your gerfrd can produce the Notary Certificate of Single Status (无配偶声明书公证), then she's still a single, and can marry with anyone in this world. :D If both of you wish to marry in singapore, why the hell ICA want her marital status certificate?? :confused: ROM should be the one asking for her before allocating a date mah. If my above checklist is found "satis", then annotate single in the LTSVP form when you obtain your marriage cert in singapore loh.

Bcos if u place single, once ICA check with system, and spotted a different status, they will disapproved yr visa as they will think that you r not sincere with them, if u apply divorce, they will do a check on the system wonder it TRUE....secondly, we can't 100% trust PRC in terms of sure issue....some PRC are very blur or act blur....u get what I mean....

This one the ger know best lah, she can lie thru' her teeth to get her LTSVP, but not during the strict filtration of SPR vetting if she conceal her marital status from them. :cool:

My question.....a divorce get lesser chance ICA approval?

Nope, absolutely not if you have the proper and original divorce document from marriage registration authority.

Rof|maoxz
06-05-2008, 09:57 AM
Bro Ryanlim you earning 2.5k or 3.5k and successfully applied PR for your foreign wife?(if you married)

Bro Sha_Gua75 said his brother applied sucessfully with salary below 3k but maybe he can let us know how much below 3k? got 2.5k?

The last time I follow this thread, no one can confirm if there is a min salary requirement, but for sure CPF and employed is a must cuz ica scare something or so.

Bro Norikasan55, if you take some time reading somewhere dtd July onwards 2006, I have mentioned my in long and boring account b4, the annual income of the sponsor, in this case the "husband" do play a part in the approving process of the SPR, but this is not everything ICA is looking for. If I told you my missus obtained her SPR when my annual income at that time is only 26K, will you bang balls if your annual is much higher then me?? But I have tried thrice w/o engaging the help of MP, will this make you feeling any better, or sympathize me? My point is this, ICA view each and every application seriously, with minimum flaw involved, no sign of "fake marriage", the sponsor's past academic and working performance, annual income, CPF contribution, Income Tax contribution, any national awards or any glassroots activity involvement, the wife's educational level, wife's independency, and many more.

I have read thru' last mths post today, I have noticed the length of the SPR or citizenship waiting process is much longer than the past, you can notice the huge volume of applications flowing in to ICA, so this will prolong one's waiting time also. I can tell you, that do not rush things, everyone's got their frustration in getting this stupid piece of blue ID or red ID one. Hope this help lah.

Prata price has went up.... flip here n there, now $0.7 a piece.

Tiu!!! Where got $0.70/pc so cheap?? :mad: You bring me go lah. :D

Then HOW are u going to prove PRC status.....they still need to get their own country embassy booklet to photocopy to ROM....now u get my picture!

Ah Paul arh Ah Paul, ID cards and residence certificates don't show anything about their marital status lah, it's the singleness certificates that ROM is interested about. Why? You kana played out by PRCs recently mah? I tot you gg to house some of them in River Valley areas? :D

ah rat
06-05-2008, 10:10 AM
Tiu!!! Where got $0.70/pc so cheap?? :mad: You bring me go lah. :D


Hi,bro,long hardly see u log in :D
I think bro naemlo bought frozen type,so cheap :D

Sha_Gua75
06-05-2008, 10:25 PM
U & yr bro it's past liao.how long ago liao?...u ask those who apply now and then.....

Tiu....I applied PR for my wife after you post that shit...the only thing is I waited longer than normal 3 mths becos too many pple applied for PR :mad:

Sha_Gua75
06-05-2008, 10:39 PM
...

For your above few posts, I will up you.....you got the powerrrrrrr now :)

Sha_Gua75
06-05-2008, 10:52 PM
yr PRC wife?

I always use ahpaul25.....sometimes use my bro account if mine cannot log in...

Tiu you twice again for your that 2 statement again

naemlo
06-05-2008, 11:52 PM
Tiu!!! Where got $0.70/pc so cheap?? :mad: You bring me go lah. :D



Hi,bro,long hardly see u log in :D
I think bro naemlo bought frozen type,so cheap :D

Tiu u 2... put time, I put place. Bring u guys go eat $0.7 prata n see him flip here n there.

digital
07-05-2008, 01:16 AM
For your above few posts, I will up you.....you got the powerrrrrrr now
Thank you. :)

For the above scenario, will she need to file income tax for both Thailand and Sg or just one of the country?
My wife neither work in SG or China, so she never file at all.
For your senario, I am quite sure she only have to file at the country she work and no need to file both country.

Hope this help. ;)

Heart Break Kid
07-05-2008, 11:16 PM
Hi All,

I got questions for those whose foreigner wife already get sg PR.

1. She is not working in sg but work back in her own country.
2. She is working in sg but not working back in her own country.
3. She is working in both country.

For the above scenario, will she need to file income tax for both Thailand and Sg or just one of the country?

Depending whether she is a tax resident on which country.

For example, if she stay in S'pore for more than 180 days a year..she will filed income tax as tax resident here.
Despite her earned income in both country.

Thom07
12-05-2008, 02:17 PM
...System really changed not long ago....

Maybe different criteria applies to different nationalities?

amy6068
25-05-2008, 01:45 AM
I have question to ask.

I intend to bring my viet gf to sg to ROM.

Do i have to apply anything in vietnam first?
Do i need to apply visa for her to enter sg?
Do i need to buy return air ticket for her?
Any procedure to do in ICA?

Any bro pls help....thanks.

Sha_Gua75
25-05-2008, 01:48 AM
I have question to ask.

I intend to bring my viet gf to sg to ROM.

Do i have to apply anything in vietnam first?
Do i need to apply visa for her to enter sg?
Do i need to buy return air ticket for her?
Any procedure to do in ICA?

Any bro pls help....thanks.


Do i have to apply anything in vietnam first? ----> Not necessary
Do i need to apply visa for her to enter sg? ----> Nope
Do i need to buy return air ticket for her? ----> Not necessary, If ICA ask at airport maybe u can show proof of ROM print out
Any procedure to do in ICA? ----> Nothing unless u want apply LTSVP or PR for her


you marrying the one who got ban b4?

amy6068
25-05-2008, 02:07 AM
She banned from entering 3 years in 2005. next month due....

So will there be any problem?

I have apply ROM next month.

Sha_Gua75
25-05-2008, 02:09 AM
She banned from entering 3 years in 2005. next month due....

So will there be any problem?

I have apply ROM next month.

Since she got banned b4.....then I have no knowledge/experience and also never hear anything regarding this....maybe after ur experience u can write it over here....as I believe alot of brothers here wish to know...

maybe I would advise u to pay a visit to ICA and ask them, it will be the best answer that u will get...instead of from here

amy6068
25-05-2008, 02:18 AM
Since she got banned b4.....then I have no knowledge/experience and also never hear anything regarding this....maybe after ur experience u can write it over here....as I believe alot of brothers here wish to know...

maybe I would advise u to pay a visit to ICA and ask them, it will be the best answer that u will get...instead of from here

If go to ICA which level should i go to ask?

I notice there a office beside the main entrance.
last time my gf also go there when she get banned.

S i l v i a
25-05-2008, 05:46 AM
Would like to seek some advise from some bros here.

I married my malaysia wife here n over in JB. Both of us have marriage cerf in s'pore and m'sia. Then out of a sudden, she was called up by our police force for an offence she made last 3yrs ago and was summon to court and jailed for 6weeks. After coming out,she was stamped perm ban from S'pore.

Is there a way to help to apply for her to come back cos since she came out of jail already been 3yrs and i had 1 time successfully apply her to come here visit my grandmother for 7days (after which she had to go back). I had apply thru my MP and lawyer and all came back negative. How huh?

Sha_Gua75
25-05-2008, 11:28 AM
If go to ICA which level should i go to ask?

I notice there a office beside the main entrance.
last time my gf also go there when she get banned.

Search for it at ICA website...rather than u posting and surfing in sammy...if u really want to marry her then the next thing u should do is to find out from more from ICA instead of from sammy

Sha_Gua75
25-05-2008, 11:30 AM
Is there a way to help to apply for her to come back cos since she came out of jail already been 3yrs and i had 1 time successfully apply her to come here visit my grandmother for 7days (after which she had to go back). I had apply thru my MP and lawyer and all came back negative. How huh?

If u have already approached your MP and lawyer and all came back negative....then do u think anyone in sammy can help u?

amy6068
29-05-2008, 09:45 PM
Search for it at ICA website...rather than u posting and surfing in sammy...if u really want to marry her then the next thing u should do is to find out from more from ICA instead of from sammy

Thanks alot for yr info..

qwerty78
11-06-2008, 02:50 AM
Hi guys,

i am a regular reader of the forum here and this is my first time posting as i really require some advice for the experience bros here. I would really appreciate any sound advice

Here is my problem................

I intend to marry a vietnamese woman here as well but the problem is,

1) she is involve in a case that need her to assist CPIB in investigation. (here for 1.5 years liao)

2) During her almost 2 years stay here, kana caught twice by AV but release due to her status for assisting CPIB, So i do not know her status in immgration.

My question is, if i ROM with her while she is still in singapore, what are the chances for her to come back within the banned period or how can i speed things up (cause my family still in the dark. thought she is normal viet girl here for study)

Who can i speak to for help?

Thank you guys

zenarc
11-06-2008, 11:36 AM
Hi guys,

i am a regular reader of the forum here and this is my first time posting as i really require some advice for the experience bros here. I would really appreciate any sound advice

Here is my problem................

I intend to marry a vietnamese woman here as well but the problem is,

1) she is involve in a case that need her to assist CPIB in investigation. (here for 1.5 years liao)

2) During her almost 2 years stay here, kana caught twice by AV but release due to her status for assisting CPIB, So i do not know her status in immgration.

My question is, if i ROM with her while she is still in singapore, what are the chances for her to come back within the banned period or how can i speed things up (cause my family still in the dark. thought she is normal viet girl here for study)

Who can i speak to for help?

Thank you guys

Good luck and the all the best Bro..as long as she is involve with any police case u can forget getting a PR status or long stay chop. You might as well go back Viet wz her to start afresh..

X_plorer
13-06-2008, 07:00 AM
[QUOTE=qwerty78;2822804]Hi guys,

i am a regular reader of the forum here and this is my first time posting as i really require some advice for the experience bros here. I would really appreciate any sound advice

Here is my problem................

Anyone who got a case now or before can forget getting any kind of pass in Singapore ICA..

I think you would have to change your partner already.. Or you can go to "Understanding Your Vietnamese Life Partner" Thread, the bros there would tell you more if you intend to take a Viet wife.. it would not be as easy as you think.. Did't want to spoilt your thinking or to annoy you, but we all have a Viet wife.. But the answer to them came out to almost the same to all of us, so dissappointed.. Only have a bit of those lucky few..

OldbirdKiller
13-06-2008, 01:57 PM
Hi guys,

i am a regular reader of the forum here and this is my first time posting as i really require some advice for the experience bros here. I would really appreciate any sound advice

Here is my problem................

I intend to marry a vietnamese woman here as well but the problem is,

1) she is involve in a case that need her to assist CPIB in investigation. (here for 1.5 years liao)

2) During her almost 2 years stay here, kana caught twice by AV but release due to her status for assisting CPIB, So i do not know her status in immgration.

My question is, if i ROM with her while she is still in singapore, what are the chances for her to come back within the banned period or how can i speed things up (cause my family still in the dark. thought she is normal viet girl here for study)

Who can i speak to for help?

Thank you guys


bro,

try your MP

ryanlim
03-07-2008, 03:17 AM
try your MP

sad to say.............. but i think there's nothing much his MP can do for him in this type of case...............

:(

tragedie
03-07-2008, 01:43 PM
You should try contact MP for help. He/she will try his/her best for you

Lychee
03-07-2008, 05:38 PM
bro,
try your MP

sad to say.............. but i think there's nothing much his MP can do for him in this type of case...............

You should try contact MP for help. He/she will try his/her best for you
My suggestion is try to approach MP when GE is near. :D But too bad now still quite far from GE :p

Prick
07-07-2008, 03:53 AM
erm....i am a degree holder yet i have not paid a single cents of income tax ever since i graduated 7 yrs ago. Also i am not employed now so am i to say if i ROM a foreigner, chances of her having social visit pass of 3 months is IMPOSSIBLE?

honestly speaking, i am just looking at 3 or 6 months pass for her...won't apply PR for her since i don't really trust her yet. I certainly wouldn't wanna marry her if she can't even secure a 3 months pass, if that's the case i am sure the marriage cannot be sustained. And with that, i think wanna get a divorce will be also too troublesome should i meet a new gal. :P

Xena
07-07-2008, 08:21 AM
Not employed, how you get her 3 months social visit pass ... cannot be guarantor, and if you dont trust her, definitely dont wanna be her guarantor ... so ask her go get it herself :D

vmtech
07-07-2008, 10:36 AM
erm....i am a degree holder yet i have not paid a single cents of income tax ever since i graduated 7 yrs ago. Also i am not employed now so am i to say if i ROM a foreigner, chances of her having social visit pass of 3 months is IMPOSSIBLE?

honestly speaking, i am just looking at 3 or 6 months pass for her...won't apply PR for her since i don't really trust her yet. I certainly wouldn't wanna marry her if she can't even secure a 3 months pass, if that's the case i am sure the marriage cannot be sustained. And with that, i think wanna get a divorce will be also too troublesome should i meet a new gal. :P

you contridict yourself. if u dont trust her, dont waste ur time and her time la.

ryanlim
09-07-2008, 02:32 AM
erm....i am a degree holder yet i have not paid a single cents of income tax ever since i graduated 7 yrs ago. Also i am not employed now so am i to say if i ROM a foreigner, chances of her having social visit pass of 3 months is IMPOSSIBLE?

sorry to say but chances are almost next to zero...........

honestly speaking, i am just looking at 3 or 6 months pass for her...won't apply PR for her since i don't really trust her yet. I certainly wouldn't wanna marry her if she can't even secure a 3 months pass, if that's the case i am sure the marriage cannot be sustained. And with that, i think wanna get a divorce will be also too troublesome should i meet a new gal. :P

*speechless*

Xena
09-07-2008, 11:21 AM
Yalor donno why still bother asking, dont waste time just move on .,...

you contridict yourself. if u dont trust her, dont waste ur time and her time la.


sorry to say but chances are almost next to zero...........
*speechless*

vmtech
09-07-2008, 05:29 PM
Yalor donno why still bother asking, dont waste time just move on .,...

haha, his nick suits him damn well. Pity that girl thats with him in fact.

postcd
14-07-2008, 12:58 AM
BTW, who is in china now?

for us singaporean, if we marry prc ger.
how to get visa to stay there long time or wat type of visa can we apply?
SGD$10k can go there invest wat biz?

sugardad
06-08-2008, 02:58 PM
ATTN :

THOSE who have PRC GF and intent to get them to stay in SG for a long period of time.

I have just started doing Placement for Foreigner in SG. So I will need large amount of Foreigner to work in SG. As I am only doing for S-Pass Holders, my requirement are as follows......

1) Must Have university Degree or professional Diploma.
2) Must be able to speak MANDARIN and/or ENGLISH.
3) Past Experience in Retail and/or F&B will be added advantage.

No charges involve until her status had been verified.
The charges are:
1) Registration ( upon verification of Diploma or Degree )
2) Administration ( upon verification of Diploma or Degree and we think we can find her a job )
3) Placement Fees. ( will advice the fees before we bring her to the our clients' premises for interview)

Candidates that is currently overseas are not require to be in SG unless we already have a firm offer for job or jobs in SG.

PM me for further information. If mailbox is full , leave your email address here.



BTW, Philippine, Vietnam, Thai, Indonesia also can

BAN GIRL no need to apply.

beachboii
08-08-2008, 12:04 AM
need some advices...

was married 5 years ago with my wife (Vietnamese) in singapore. Was grant long term social visit pass during her 3month stay in singapore. We did not apply for PR During that period.

She go back to vietnam after the 3month LTSVP to start her saloon business as she told me that she could not cope her life in singapore. i visit her every 3 month...(For 5days to 1week stay in vietnam).

Currently her business had been bad in vietnam and we had to sell away our property in vietnam..she decide that she want to come back here for good.

Question -
-) Can i apply for her PR immediately?
-) Can i apply PR for her over here while she is still in vietna,.She will only come next year.
-) My income taxes declare for the past 4years had been very low ( About 18k to 21k per annual)as i want to 'siam" taxes ...would this affect the Process and application?
-) What would happened if suddenly my income declaration shoot up so much if let say i were to declare 36k -42k..I am self employ.
-) Would her educational level matter in the process of the application.
-) How long do i need to wait again to apply the PR IF THE 1st application fail?

Hope someone can give me some kind advices to the above...

Sha_Gua75
08-08-2008, 08:49 PM
Question -



Answer as far as my knowledge but if it doesnt not work the same for your case, pls forgive me.


-) Can i apply for her PR immediately? ----> Yes, You can as long u have the ROM cert


-) Can i apply PR for her over here while she is still in vietna,.She will only come next year. ----> This one I think no ba....at least she must be here to submit the form personally herself ( as in clause 8 of http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/docs/PR%20Services/FormEP4_4-01.pdf)



-) My income taxes declare for the past 4years had been very low ( About 18k to 21k per annual)as i want to 'siam" taxes ...would this affect the Process and application? ----> I think this is one of the factor that ICA is looking at....


-) What would happened if suddenly my income declaration shoot up so much if let say i were to declare 36k -42k..I am self employ. ----> This one I am not sure at all....but then I think IRAS is the department which are more interested in that....


-) Would her educational level matter in the process of the application. ----> There quite a few pple who have said that it will affect...but personally I think that there are more deciding important factors for ICA to consider


-) How long do i need to wait again to apply the PR IF THE 1st application fail? ----> I forget about this one but as far as I can remember it is 6 months?

beachboii
09-08-2008, 03:21 PM
[QUOTE=Sha_Gua75;2958349]Answer as far as my knowledge but if it doesnt not work the same for your case, pls forgive me.



-) Can i apply PR for her over here while she is still in vietna,.She will only come next year. ----> This one I think no ba....at least she must be here to submit the form personally herself ( as in clause 8 of http://www.ica.gov.sg/data/resources/docs/PR%20Services/FormEP4_4-01.pdf)




-) Would her educational level matter in the process of the application. ----> There quite a few pple who have said that it will affect...but personally I think that there are more deciding important factors for ICA to consider

Thanks for the infor.

cereal-killer
10-08-2008, 02:05 PM
I have to agree with you guys that our MPs are really good for nothing MPs

I had a problem with ICA a couple of months ago, and approached my MP in Sengkang and He's a lawyer too. I told him about our plight and he said that he can't do much and in fact based on what I had given, there was nothing any one can do since wife broke the law, he also added that my wife WILL be jailed for up to 8 weeks or more.

I really don't think any MPs will help you, unless that 'some thing' benefits THEM. There's no free meal... unless you're one of the richest people in Singapore, and able to pull strings.

Look at that Tang fella with that "kidney" saga... do you think he will be let off the hook ?? watch... he WILL get let off cos' they're already re-thinking on how to work out some thing for him... others Already convicted BUT NOT HIM ?? his trial delay ??? knn... if it was normal people like you and me, they will fast forward and slap us with jail and a super heavy fine

bikee69
24-08-2008, 03:06 PM
Hi All,

I would like to check is any of the Bro here wife is from Myanmar and got her S'pore citizenship approved?

My wife got her citizenship approve and i need to renounce her Myanmar Citizenship but i would like to check the process and fees ($) at the Myanmar Embassy. Anyone have gone thru the process? Pls advise. thanks

davidpetery
24-08-2008, 04:29 PM
hi bro bikeee,
she needs to pay 2180S$ for it as she needs to give 24 months taxes with 90S$ per month although she is not working. It's stupid myanmar embassy's rule.
Hope it can help your question.


Cheers

bikee69
24-08-2008, 06:26 PM
hi bro bikeee,
she needs to pay 2180S$ for it as she needs to give 24 months taxes with 90S$ per month although she is not working. It's stupid myanmar embassy's rule.
Hope it can help your question.


Cheers

Thanks for the help. Can I just walk in and informed that that my wife need to renounce her citizenship? any other things that required? Thanks again.

davidpetery
24-08-2008, 07:37 PM
Hi
you just bring the approved letter from ICA together with her passport which is needed to show. They will ask you to come back and collect the letter after aweek and you need to pay S$2180S$ and her myanmarese passport when you collect the letter.

Cheers

bikee69
24-08-2008, 11:38 PM
Hi
you just bring the approved letter from ICA together with her passport which is needed to show. They will ask you to come back and collect the letter after aweek and you need to pay S$2180S$ and her myanmarese passport when you collect the letter.

Cheers

Thanks again for the valuable info.

Schenker
25-08-2008, 03:44 PM
I have to agree with you guys that our MPs are really good for nothing MPs

I had a problem with ICA a couple of months ago, and approached my MP in Sengkang and He's a lawyer too. I told him about our plight and he said that he can't do much and in fact based on what I had given, there was nothing any one can do since wife broke the law, he also added that my wife WILL be jailed for up to 8 weeks or more.

Bro cereal-killer, how's your wife's case with the ICA now?

Ah Seng™
26-08-2008, 10:15 AM
My wife got her citizenship approve...

Hi bikee69,

Just wanna check with u :

1. Is ur wife working ?
2. How many times did u apply ?

Just for info as I will be extending my wife's LTSVP this Oct as well as apply for PR at the same time.

PRC Rammer
26-08-2008, 11:51 AM
How can I apply a short term social visit pass for my PRC gf for say 3 months in ICA under my name ?

My monthly salary is close to $4K & I am a degree holder.

First time application :p:):p:)

bikee69
26-08-2008, 11:05 PM
Just wanna check with u :

1. Is ur wife working ?
2. How many times did u apply ?

Just for info as I will be extending my wife's LTSVP this Oct as well as apply for PR at the same time.

Reply your question.....

1. No
2. 1

Regards

vmtech
27-08-2008, 02:42 PM
Hi All,

I would like to check is any of the Bro here wife is from Myanmar and got her S'pore citizenship approved?

My wife got her citizenship approve and i need to renounce her Myanmar Citizenship but i would like to check the process and fees ($) at the Myanmar Embassy. Anyone have gone thru the process? Pls advise. thanks

bro!!! congrates man!!!!

Ah Seng™
27-08-2008, 04:59 PM
Reply your question.....

1. No
2. 1

Regards

wow :eek:

Congrats man... hope I also can get it 4 moi wife :D

bikee69
27-08-2008, 11:33 PM
bro!!! congrates man!!!!

thanks bro. but my pocket pica (broke)

bikee69
28-08-2008, 03:53 PM
Went to Myanmar Embassy this morning to renounce my wife citizenship. KNN, the counter told me that i need to fill up a form and also need to photocopy all the page that have stamp on the passport and also the queue number of the day is full. She ask me to come again TOMORROW. NB. like that also can.

Need to go again tomorrow early in the morning around 6am to queue for the number again. KNN. Luckily this will be my LAST VISIT. Need to pay S$2160 to renounce her citizenship.

cereal-killer
28-08-2008, 09:35 PM
Bro cereal-killer, how's your wife's case with the ICA now?

Bro Schenker,

Thanks for your concern. My wife was let off the hook. No jail, and just pay $4000 fine. Thanks to the lawyer who did an Excellent Job.

Went back to ICA on same day to collect back her passport and almost every officer on the floor came in to see how she got away with it.

heng heng... God Have Eyes.

Ah Seng™
29-08-2008, 11:19 AM
Bro Schenker,

Thanks for your concern. My wife was let off the hook. No jail, and just pay $4000 fine. Thanks to the lawyer who did an Excellent Job.

Went back to ICA on same day to collect back her passport and almost every officer on the floor came in to see how she got away with it.

heng heng... God Have Eyes.

Bro, glad everything turn out good for you :)

vmtech
31-08-2008, 06:04 AM
thanks bro. but my pocket pica (broke)

pichiak pocket is better than all the troubles bro... :) it's all worth it in the end.

CeiResident
31-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Wah bro u are a lucky chap, 2 years back my friend gf was throw into portsdown to eat black bean rice for 2 years. She was nabbed in woodlands custom after a shopping trip with my friend of city square. She had been using her passport to enter singapore after Ord-ing for just 3 months. ICA no mercy want nia, Dun every try to go to MPs i went to look for jalan besar Mp whom is a vet doctor and was humiliated by him everytime, gave up in the end tho...:mad::mad:

Bro Schenker,

Thanks for your concern. My wife was let off the hook. No jail, and just pay $4000 fine. Thanks to the lawyer who did an Excellent Job.

Went back to ICA on same day to collect back her passport and almost every officer on the floor came in to see how she got away with it.

heng heng... God Have Eyes.

bikee69
31-08-2008, 01:07 PM
pichiak pocket is better than all the troubles bro... :) it's all worth it in the end.

Ya. You are right. Went to the Embassy to submit the document last Friday and now need to go again on the coming Friday to get the letter from them. Then after that really FO from the embassy liao....:rolleyes:

vmtech
31-08-2008, 04:20 PM
Ya. You are right. Went to the Embassy to submit the document last Friday and now need to go again on the coming Friday to get the letter from them. Then after that really FO from the embassy liao....:rolleyes:

myanmar embassy really CMI la. Happy for u your wifey doesnt need to visit that place anymore.
had similar exp when my wife lost her pp in bangkok and had to get 1 done visiting the myanmar emb in bkk , was kindda happy when i saw in the news the emb was razed by a fire few weeks later.. haha good riddance. :X

anyway, congrats! remmebered years ago you were still trying to get her over. hard work pays off bro!

Sha_Gua75
31-08-2008, 04:40 PM
Wah bro u are a lucky chap, 2 years back my friend gf was throw into portsdown to eat black bean rice for 2 years. She was nabbed in woodlands custom after a shopping trip with my friend of city square. She had been using her passport to enter singapore after Ord-ing for just 3 months. ICA no mercy want nia, Dun every try to go to MPs i went to look for jalan besar Mp whom is a vet doctor and was humiliated by him everytime, gave up in the end tho...:mad::mad:

U can speak properly? :confused:

Cant understand what you trying to say...your friend gf Ord-ing?!?!? She serve army?!?!? Your friend gf but u the one who go find MP!?!?!

bikee69
31-08-2008, 10:53 PM
remmebered years ago you were still trying to get her over. hard work pays off bro!

Ya. Thinking back the days where needed to search around for the info to get a Myanmar passport. Luckily those day have gone......

Quite a number of Bros here PM here for the info to get Myanmar passport during that time. Hope that all of them is able to settle everything now.

vmtech
31-08-2008, 11:41 PM
Ya. Thinking back the days where needed to search around for the info to get a Myanmar passport. Luckily those day have gone......

Quite a number of Bros here PM here for the info to get Myanmar passport during that time. Hope that all of them is able to settle everything now.

yes it is now much easier to get 1, compared to 3+ yrs back.
however, not much info la, infact, 1 bro just PMed me for that last night.

to that bro: sorry i dont have the contact anymore, for passport just head to yangon and apply normally can already.

bikee69
10-09-2008, 02:15 PM
Finally, today is the day where my wife have got nothing to do with Myanmar liao....hahaha.....:D.

Got her Renounce letter from Myanmar Embassy last Friday and today went to ICA to register her Singapore Citizenship. Can forget about all the Visa that require when travelling to other counter when she is still holding Myanmar PP. What a relief......:)

technofreak
10-09-2008, 03:06 PM
Hi,

Anyone knows where and how to renounce a Cambodian citizenship?? Can do it at the Cambodian embassy? Or have to fly back to Cambodia to do it?? From my understanding, it costs around USD1200 to renounce it in Cambodia.

Any bros can verify??

Thanking you in advance. :)


Cheers,
Techno

ryanlim
10-09-2008, 06:14 PM
Finally, today is the day where my wife have got nothing to do with Myanmar liao....hahaha.....:D

Congrats man............. :)

ahyong
10-09-2008, 07:05 PM
Finally, today is the day where my wife have got nothing to do with Myanmar liao....hahaha.....:D.

Got her Renounce letter from Myanmar Embassy last Friday and today went to ICA to register her Singapore Citizenship. Can forget about all the Visa that require when travelling to other counter when she is still holding Myanmar PP. What a relief......:)

Hey bro Congrats!!! :D

bikee69
13-09-2008, 12:26 AM
Hey bro Congrats!!! :D

Congrats man............. :)

Thanks Bro.......:D

bikee69
13-09-2008, 12:28 AM
From my understanding, it costs around USD1200 to renounce it in Cambodia.



Wahhhhhh........ another $$$$$ sucking country?????????

ryanlim
07-10-2008, 03:41 AM
nobody got any issue(s) to ask or share?????????

:confused::confused:

hornity
07-10-2008, 07:54 AM
I wish to have a korean wife...... :p

bikee69
29-11-2008, 11:04 AM
now aday so quiet.........:eek:

ryanlim
01-12-2008, 02:41 PM
now aday so quiet.........:eek:

nowadays everybody is happily married without problems............

:D:D

Sha_Gua75
01-12-2008, 03:09 PM
nowadays everybody is happily married without problems............

:D:D

lol nice answer :D

sexlover
01-12-2008, 07:42 PM
nowadays everybody is happily married without problems............

U machiam sign long term contract in this thread liao. ;)
Market down, seem like all love bird put their plan on hold :D

Schenker
02-12-2008, 08:48 AM
U machiam sign long term contract in this thread liao. ;)

Market down, seem like all love bird put their plan on hold :D

Hello bro SL, how are you and your little tots?

Did you apply Sing citizenship for your wife?

Anyone has already applied for his spouse and get it?

$90 per application really suck blood manz! :eek:

LostALau
10-12-2008, 04:57 PM
sigh.. i wish to make a trip down to japan embassy in nassim road leh.. but bo pian!!! I NO JAPANESS GF to marry...


I only want a Japanese gf, not wife. So no need to go down to Japan Embassy.
Save so much trouble. :D

Sha_Gua75
11-12-2008, 01:12 PM
Hello bro SL, how are you and your little tots?

Did you apply Sing citizenship for your wife?

Anyone has already applied for his spouse and get it?

$90 per application really suck blood manz! :eek:

$90 suck blood?!??! :confused:

xmen77
11-12-2008, 01:28 PM
Checking any bro here got foreigner wife? How is it like? safety?
And what is the requirement for them to stay in singapore?

You talking about real Wife? or partime wifw?
if you're for real, then it a simple procedure from immigration.
apply social visa, go ROM and then wait for official marriage cert.
then get your longterm pass. So when u getting marry?
who the shuay Gir..hee..hee..

bikee69
12-12-2008, 11:31 PM
$90 per application really suck blood manz! :eek:

If your wife is from Myanmar, then you will know which country is really SUCKING BLOOD.......:(

$90? small sum compare to what I spent on Myanmar Embassy......:mad:

kelwong135
18-12-2008, 12:13 PM
Yesterday went down to ICA to renew my wife 1year Long Term Social Visit Pass and they say that they have change their system now my wife got only 2 month extend and have to wait for letter like the first time i apply for her.Now she is holding the white card.Any bro here got this b4?Tks

Schenker
19-12-2008, 04:24 PM
Yesterday went down to ICA to renew my wife 1year Long Term Social Visit Pass and they say that they have change their system now my wife got only 2 month extend and have to wait for letter like the first time i apply for her.Now she is holding the white card.Any bro here got this b4?Tks

Your wife is holding the white card now? How long does your wife hold the LTSVP from the first application? Has she reached the 2-yearly medical check-up? Have you applied SPR for her yet? ICA always change their system here and then. Hopefully your wife can get the 1-year extension again.

kelwong135
19-12-2008, 05:40 PM
Your wife is holding the white card now? How long does your wife hold the LTSVP from the first application? Has she reached the 2-yearly medical check-up? Have you applied SPR for her yet? ICA always change their system here and then. Hopefully your wife can get the 1-year extension again.

She reached her 2 year medical check up already.I ask the officer she say now all the people that are renewing the long term they all will have to wait for letter.And have to hold the white card.So i want to know any bro here kana this case b4 anot?:confused:

Schenker
23-12-2008, 02:11 PM
She reached her 2 year medical check up already.I ask the officer she say now all the people that are renewing the long term they all will have to wait for letter.And have to hold the white card.So i want to know any bro here kana this case b4 anot?:confused:

Don't worry, your case is normal, not unusual. I have extended my wife LTSVP for 2 1/2 years in the past. Have also got the white card after the medical check-up is expired. Your wife will get the LTSVP renewed after she has completed her medical check-up for fresh new submission again. ;)

cereal-killer
23-12-2008, 07:41 PM
Your wife is holding the white card now? How long does your wife hold the LTSVP from the first application? Has she reached the 2-yearly medical check-up? Have you applied SPR for her yet? ICA always change their system here and then. Hopefully your wife can get the 1-year extension again.
ICA changed their system. Your wife will get a Green coloured (look like I/C) card later... later they will give her back the 1 year LTSVP... its crappy, but what to do... we are not the SUPER rich

kelwong135
24-12-2008, 01:02 AM
Don't worry, your case is normal, not unusual. I have extended my wife LTSVP for 2 1/2 years in the past. Have also got the white card after the medical check-up is expired. Your wife will get the LTSVP renewed after she has completed her medical check-up for fresh new submission again. ;)

So bro how long u waited for ICA to reply to you?

kelwong135
24-12-2008, 01:07 AM
ICA changed their system. Your wife will get a Green coloured (look like I/C) card later... later they will give her back the 1 year LTSVP... its crappy, but what to do... we are not the SUPER rich

Hi bro did you extend for ur wife also and kana like that?does the new greencard come wif photo?:confused:

ryanlim
30-12-2008, 12:26 AM
From Asiaone.com

S'pore PRs to get new online REP service
Mon, Dec 29, 2008
AsiaOne

Singapore Permanent Residents (PRs) will be able to renew or transfer their Re-entry Permits (REPs) with a new online service starting Jan 2.

The electronic REP, or e-REP for short, will replace the current method of endorsement in the Singapore PR's passport or as an REP card, said the Immigration & Checkpoints Authority (ICA) on Monday..

A valid REP must be held by Singapore PRs who leave Singapore or remain abroad, without which they will lose their PR status.

At present, Singapore PRs are required to turn up personally at ICA Building to submit applications and supporting documents for the renewal of REP.

Access to the new electronic system will be via the SingPass account for valid REP holders.

Those who do not have SingPass or whose REPs have expired will have to submit their REP applications at the ICA Building.

There will be no change to the current $50, 5-year fee for the application of REP facilities. It will be payable via credit/debit card through e-REP once the application is approved.

All current REP endorsements and REP cards issued prior to the launch of e-REP remain valid until their expiry date, provided that they have not been cancelled or invalidated, said ICA.

The new online system will also be interfaced with the enhanced Immigration Automated Clearance System (eIACS)

This will allow Singapore PRs who have registered for the Singapore identity card to conduct immigration clearance through the automated lanes with their machine readable passports.

Visit ICA - Home (http://www.ica.gov.sg) for more details.

ryanlim
30-12-2008, 12:32 AM
From ICA website

ENTER THE EFFICIENT ERA WITH e-REP
29-Dec-2008 filed under Notice Board

The Immigration & Checkpoints Authority (ICA) welcomes 2009 with yet another innovative e-service! With effect from 2 January 2009, Singapore Permanent Residents (SPRs) can expect to renew or transfer their Re-Entry Permit (REP) online, anywhere and at anytime, with the introduction of a new e-service – Electronic Re-Entry Permit or e-REP in short. The e-REP allows for quick, efficient and hassle-free online transactions which aims to reduce the need for SPRs to physically come down to the ICA Building for the transfer or renewal of their REPs.

2. The REP provides for a SPR to retain his SPR status while travelling abroad. Currently, it is issued in the form of an endorsement in the SPR’s passport or as a REP card. A SPR who leaves Singapore or remains abroad without a valid REP will lose his SPR status. With the launch of e-REP, ICA will cease to issue REP in the form of endorsements or REP cards for all REP applications approved on/after 2 January 2009.

3. All current REP endorsements and REP cards issued prior to the launch of e-REP remain valid until their expiry date, provided that they have not been cancelled or invalidated by ICA.

‘e’-xisting and new procedures

4. Presently, SPRs are required to turn up personally at ICA Building to submit applications for renewal of REP. Besides completing an application form, the applicant is also required to furnish supporting documents such as CPF statement, income tax assessment, etc. The introduction of e-REP not only eliminates the need for the SPR to turn up personally at ICA for REP facilities, it also streamlines the application process as applicants no longer have to submit supporting documents to ICA. The application process for REP facilities can now be completed within minutes in a few simple steps with e-REP. See Annex A for the screenshots of e-REP.

‘e’-ligibility

5. All SPRs, holding valid REPs and are issued with SingPass accounts, can apply to renew or transfer their REPs through e-REP. Those who do not have SingPass or whose REPs have expired will have to submit their REP applications personally at the Permanent Resident Services Centre (PRSC), 5th storey, ICA Building.

6. Singapore Citizens or SPRs who have SingPass accounts, can also use e-REP to submit REP renewal applications on behalf of their spouse and children. All renewal of REP will be capped at a maximum of 5 years.

e-REP is more than just an online application module
Multiple functions

7. Besides application for renewal or transfer of REP, the new e-REP system also enables SPRs to perform additional functions such as checking of REP application status and enquiry of REP details for the applicants and his children.

Saves time and brings greater convenience

8. As highlighted earlier, e-REP allows eligible SPRs to login using their SingPass and transact for REP facilities at their convenience and comfort without the need to make a trip to the ICA Building. In addition, this robust online system will also be interfaced with the enhanced Immigration Automated Clearance System (eIACS) to allow SPRs who have registered for Singapore identity card to conduct immigration clearance through the automated lanes with their machine readable passports. Hence, SPRs will also be able to enjoy a speedy and effective clearance through our immigration checkpoints from 2 January 2009 onwards.

Fees and processing time

9. There will be no change to the current fee for application of REP facilities. The fee of $50 for a 5-year REP will be payable via credit/debit card through e-REP once the application is approved. There is no fee for the transfer of REPs. Generally, applications for REP facilities submitted through e-REP will be processed within one day.

Frequently Asked Questions

10. A list of Frequently Asked Questions is attached at Annex B. A more comprehensive set of questions and answers on e-REP is also available on ICA’s website at ICA - Home (http://www.ica.gov.sg).


END OF NEWS RELEASE

Immigration & Checkpoints Authority
29 December 2008

Ah Seng™
06-01-2009, 08:43 AM
does the new greencard come wif photo?:confused:

The new green card comes with photo, thumb print and expiry date of LTSVP.

ICA no longer chop in the Passport.

It resembles very much like our IC, just colour difference. ;)

ofcourse the fees is more than previously.

Sboobs_lover
07-01-2009, 04:31 PM
Hi my wife have got her LTSVP now wanting to apply for PR. But i got a few questions:

1) Is it true that if a PR application is rejected, u cannot apply for it again for the next 6 mths?

2) Wat document need 公证?I knew that Birth Cert and Educational Cert is needed so does it mean that if i have the two original copies then i dun need 公证 liao, apart from the translator?

3) My wife highest educational level is actually primary school and she do not have the cert, furthermore the school is no longer exist so i wanted to ask anyone got their wife PR approved w/o Educational Cert?

4) Does 户口本 needed? Some pple say need some pple say no need!!! So can anyone who apply PR for their wife b4 tell me whether i need 户口本 or not.

Pls help me!!! Very confuse now...

juniper2468
07-01-2009, 07:39 PM
Sboobs_lover, see my answers...

(1) You can apply again but the results would not differ unless there is a significant change in ... your income, your education level, or even your wife getting pregnant. If there is no change, what is the point of even reapplying immediately, the outcome will be the same.

(2) Please have all your China documents notarised by the China Notary Office... household booklet, china marriage certificate (if any), education certificate, china id copy, china passport copy. Make at least 2 sets of these documents. And of course, when you go to ICA, you need to bring the original documents too. Present to the ICA officer both the original and the notarised copies, attacha set of the ORIGINAL Notarised copy in your application.

(3) Ask your wife to make a statutory declaration at the Supreme Court that she has completed her primary education and could not locate the certificate, and also that the school in China is now ceased. Submit it to ICA during the application of PR.

(4) You need to present original and notarised copy of the household booklet.

Hope it helps!

Sboobs_lover
08-01-2009, 01:51 PM
Sboobs_lover, see my answers...

(1) You can apply again but the results would not differ unless there is a significant change in ... your income, your education level, or even your wife getting pregnant. If there is no change, what is the point of even reapplying immediately, the outcome will be the same.

(2) Please have all your China documents notarised by the China Notary Office... household booklet, china marriage certificate (if any), education certificate, china id copy, china passport copy. Make at least 2 sets of these documents. And of course, when you go to ICA, you need to bring the original documents too. Present to the ICA officer both the original and the notarised copies, attacha set of the ORIGINAL Notarised copy in your application.

(3) Ask your wife to make a statutory declaration at the Supreme Court that she has completed her primary education and could not locate the certificate, and also that the school in China is now ceased. Submit it to ICA during the application of PR.

(4) You need to present original and notarised copy of the household booklet.

Hope it helps!

How do i go about making statutory declaration at the Supreme Court?

juniper2468
08-01-2009, 01:59 PM
HOW TO MAKE A STATUORY DECLATION AT SUPREME COURT (SINGAPORE)

See info on this web site : The Subordinate Courts of Singapore - How to Make a Statutory Declaration (http://app.subcourts.gov.sg/criminal/page.aspx?pageid=10152)


It is easy and convenient... Remember it is your wife that needs to take the oath, not you.

vmtech
14-01-2009, 05:26 PM
From ICA website

ENTER THE EFFICIENT ERA WITH e-REP
29-Dec-2008 filed under Notice Board
...

thanks for the update!

samschnur
25-01-2009, 01:43 PM
have an enquiry.

My wife is in china now, and I have applied for the e-visa (entry visa) online for her.

My question is:

After the e-visa is approved, she can just print it out and don't have to go to the Singapore embassy?

Does she need to print out the Form 14A after she has got the e-visa approval?

cereal-killer
25-01-2009, 05:49 PM
Hi bro did you extend for ur wife also and kana like that?does the new greencard come wif photo?:confused:

Yes it comes with photo now

vmtech
03-02-2009, 04:55 PM
normally how long does an appeal take before we received the letter? if head down to ask personally, whom to ask for exactly?

Schenker
09-03-2009, 02:48 PM
Went to Myanmar Embassy this morning to renounce my wife citizenship. KNN, the counter told me that i need to fill up a form and also need to photocopy all the page that have stamp on the passport and also the queue number of the day is full. She ask me to come again TOMORROW. NB. like that also can.

Need to go again tomorrow early in the morning around 6am to queue for the number again. KNN. Luckily this will be my LAST VISIT. Need to pay S$2160 to renounce her citizenship.

Woah!! S$2160 to get renounce her origin citizenship? :eek:

Luckily for PRC's not that much. $90 I heard from my frd who went to renounce his wife last year.

But it is worth paying in the end lah. ;)

Now ICA has increased the fee for Sing Citizenship application, from $90 to $100. :mad:

Ange|Boy
10-03-2009, 12:29 PM
Recently I always got problems applying for my fiance using the SAVE(Visa) application.

Always kanna rejected then need to appeal.

Any bros got some situation

archrival9
07-04-2009, 02:46 AM
hi bros,

need some advance advise from experienced bros.

my gf is from cuba, currently she lives in sweden and shes a model. education wise, she just done high school only. money wise, she is rich.. to the extend of she plans to buy a landed property in singapore.

im not working, and currently a student persuing a degree.

we plan to get married. any ideas how smooth will the application of getting her PR in singapore be?

i sincerely seek all advice. Thanks in advance

cereal-killer
07-04-2009, 09:47 AM
If she is buying property then she should not have any problems
Getting PR ok her own

Schenker
07-04-2009, 12:00 PM
Phewz.... Finally finalized my wife's renunciation of her previous citizen and gotten the red passport. Anyone knows do we need to transfer our properties (china) to a china citizen? Still getting feedback from the lawyer from there.

But how come her pink IC got to collect together with the citizenship cert during GRC presentation ceremony?

bikee69
07-04-2009, 03:36 PM
But how come her pink IC got to collect together with the citizenship cert during GRC presentation ceremony?

Ya, now the process is like tat. My wife waited 6 month for the day but on the day of the ceremony, she went back to Myanmar.

Got to wait for another 6 month. sianzzzz :(

vmtech
30-06-2009, 10:57 AM
congrats bro :) 6 months will fly pass swiftly

bikee69
30-06-2009, 07:31 PM
congrats bro :) 6 months will fly pass swiftly

Got her IC and Citizen Cert in mid June liao. Finally.....:D

handynas
04-07-2009, 02:03 AM
normally how long does an appeal take before we received the letter? if head down to ask personally, whom to ask for exactly?

i think longest appeal might take 3 months for PR but mostly you should get the results pretty quickly. when i appealled for my wife for her rejected PR back in 2000 i went thru the MP, and the ICA replied and said that we should reapply 1.5 years later - initially i thot this is just a very standard reply, but sure enough when i reapplied 1.5 years later she got it. i think they just want to make sure its not fake marriage.

not sure if ICA orciffer want to speak to you as they are very cautious about this...MP might help to push ICA to reveal some details (perhaps hint to you when you should reapply and what criteria to fulfill)

my wife is PRC - interestingly she is a graduate from a UK uni (both of us studied in UK) and still took so long to get her PR, even when she is already working with an employment pass during the time we appealed - really depend on the orciffer i think...

JCLane
04-07-2009, 03:50 PM
hi guys, I chanced upon this thread after following a bro's link...
I searched & read thro those pertains to relevant portion, noted SingViet's #274! (back in 2006!)

My situation:

a) M'sian PR in SG, ok to sponsor SPR (as I graduated here too)
b) Intend to marry a VN girl I've met & knew there (she's at VN, non WL)

Would be glad to hear frm M'sian, SG bros who has the same experience:
i) Fly her to SG
ii) Go register at M'sia (across@JB) in 1-day to obtain marriage registration (can do so? I think need M'sia visa to go in for Vn?)
iii) Return to SG to stay next day
iv) Bring cert to ICA to register her (LTSVP or PR?)
v) Both us plan to stay in SG for long

I've checked Sg's M'sia Consulate service, nothing can be done there it seems (except applying for visa; unlike in UK or Aust). I think..

- there's need to obtain 'single' status letter (both parties?)
- need translation services? (English -> Malay; Viet -> English?)
- need to enter M'sia to register marriage but... who's signing/witness on her part? Parents not here..
- M'sia registration can be done at some official places, also religious centres, JP (Justice of Peace) office, I think
- after completion in M'sia & SG, also still need to do at Vietnam? (SingViet's entry above? translate Eng-> Viet?)

Would be glad to hear from fellow bros... Terima Kasih..

jerkmagnet
04-08-2009, 02:31 PM
Hi all senior bros, i marrired with a VN wife. She got her LTVP in april '09. I intend to apply PR for her in 2 months time. I just like to check, normally how many mths later would you apply for PR after they get the LTVP. My employment income is stable at around 50k per yr. Should i try?

Sha_Gua75
04-08-2009, 02:48 PM
Hi all senior bros, i marrired with a VN wife. She got her LTVP in april '09. I intend to apply PR for her in 2 months time. I just like to check, normally how many mths later would you apply for PR after they get the LTVP. My employment income is stable at around 50k per yr. Should i try?

I never apply for LTVP for my case, after ROM, next day I applied for PR. At the meanwhile, she is having normal social visit pass and I renew her social visit pass online to extend another 1 month. After that she go vn to prepare for the vn wedding there, follow by our honeymoon. While on honey we got news of the PR application.

casannova03
04-08-2009, 02:57 PM
Hi all senior bros, i marrired with a VN wife. She got her LTVP in april '09. I intend to apply PR for her in 2 months time. I just like to check, normally how many mths later would you apply for PR after they get the LTVP. My employment income is stable at around 50k per yr. Should i try?

There is no restriction on when u can apply for PR.

For me i applied for PR straight after my wife got the LTSVP. 1st time rejected then apply again 6 mths later. Got it the 2nd time.;)

bikee69
06-08-2009, 12:43 AM
She got her LTVP in april '09. I intend to apply PR for her in 2 months time.

I applied my wife PR one month after she got her LTVP. Got it after 2 month of waiting.

Orgasmic
06-08-2009, 07:55 AM
I wish to know. If my wife is a Malaysian ( no work permit or s pass etc ) and if I apply for a Long Term Social Visit Pass for her, does she need to bring in her passport to custom counter and get it chopped everytime she enters Singapore?

I am trying to do away with chopping of the passport cos Malaysia passport is so expensive. RM 300 or so for just one pathetic thin book.

GLHunter
10-08-2009, 01:33 PM
recently, i get to know an accountant from guangzhou.. wondering how much they are earning there & is their qualifications recongnised over here? meaning can they get similar accounting job here? she says that she is looking forward to visit s'pore, very difficult to come for holiday meh? or is it the air tix too ex for them? visa problem? any bros can comment?

vmtech
16-11-2009, 07:50 AM
phew! finally case from ICA approved... after 1.5yrs of constant appealing ..

bikee69
16-11-2009, 01:05 PM
phew! finally case from ICA approved... after 1.5yrs of constant appealing ..

Congrats Bro......Finally, Good news

Sha_Gua75
16-11-2009, 01:53 PM
phew! finally case from ICA approved... after 1.5yrs of constant appealing ..

congrats although cant remember what you appealing on :D

ives08
16-11-2009, 02:28 PM
phew! finally case from ICA approved... after 1.5yrs of constant appealing ..

Congrats bro...

All the constant chasing and correspondences of ICA officers are over!

=)

Shoot To Target
16-11-2009, 06:01 PM
My small contribution from my experiences to bros out there.

1. Age gap- The age gap between both husband n wife nust not very far apart.
2. Earning power- Husband salary must at least 2.5k n above.
3. Employment- Husband must at least with the company for 3 years.
4. Income Tax_ Husband must pay taxes for the past 3 years.
5. CPF Contribution- Husband must contribute to CPF.
6. Home- Both couple must have their own love hut.

Above are the consider factor ICA do. Hope this help.:)

Sha_Gua75
16-11-2009, 09:15 PM
6. Home- Both couple must have their own love hut.


Point 6 shouldn't be one of the factor

chanyboy
16-11-2009, 09:24 PM
phew! finally case from ICA approved... after 1.5yrs of constant appealing ..

congrats...so no more BKK huh... Must learn diff language again..

Shoot To Target
16-11-2009, 10:29 PM
Point 6 shouldn't be one of the factor

If no. 1 & no.2 unable to meet then no. 6 will be in place.
Correct me if i m wrong. Based on tis my wife already being a Singapore Citizen for more than 5 years.

Sha_Gua75
17-11-2009, 09:42 AM
If no. 1 & no.2 unable to meet then no. 6 will be in place.
Correct me if i m wrong. Based on tis my wife already being a Singapore Citizen for more than 5 years.

If u are talking about citizenship, then I don't know about it...but for PR i dont think point 6 is that important... 1stly if age gape not big, it would mean that the guy is young...since he is young then he wont be afford to buy "love hut", not to mention that he must be of age 35 yrs and above.

CheckMate
26-01-2010, 11:04 PM
Hooray...

ICA has just granted my wife SG citizenship. Now, she has to renounce her Chinese citizenship before Feb.

Just imagine she was having problem even to get a short term visa to SG few yrs ago, due to her bad record (imprisoned for 3 months due to overstaying).

I am here to say a big thank to Bro Rof|maoxz for advice, if he is still active in this forum (I seldom come in here now)

:D Happy Lunar New yr

SureScore
27-01-2010, 10:17 AM
ICA has just granted my wife SG citizenship. Now, she has to renounce her Chinese citizenship before Feb.


Congratulations. Gong xi gong xi.

Rejuvenation
28-01-2010, 12:10 AM
Bros...need so help and comments...

I just married my viet wife recently...around 2 months... now i plan to apply LTVP for her...

i working in my current company for 3yrs already...pay 2.5K...no CPF...i never pay tax b4 too...

am i still able to apply LTVP for her successfully?

naemlo
28-01-2010, 12:24 AM
am i still able to apply LTVP for her successfully?


Go n try... no one here can guarantee u a definite answer.