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Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 04:47 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems? And also, for them, it's a very very big country. So if they leave their home-town to work as KTV Girls, they have to leave ALONE and go far away for fear of their family members discovering.

Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 04:52 PM
Oh just to add on, i know ppl are going to say, Sg also got ktv girls what.
I know that, but when i chiong in Sg, i don't get that weird feeling. Only when i was in China recently.

I don't know why also.. I think maybe because it is a big country, and the thought that they are far far far far away from home-town and family that makes me feel sad for them..

bozocum
11-07-2005, 04:53 PM
What exactly are you trying to vent.......

SEXplorer
11-07-2005, 04:57 PM
no need to vent anything, support em n keep em as mistress lor... :D

P.S. life is like tat, if u feel sympathy for em, think abt the hungry pple in africa.....

naemlo
11-07-2005, 05:01 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.




U r still 'young', heart soft soft. Ask yourself 1 question, u dun enjoy, so??? U want to pity the whole world WL/FL???? U want to support or pity all the WL/FL u met??? Be mature.

KKHHLOVE
11-07-2005, 05:04 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

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I supposed they did it on their own free will, becoming a ktv girl or WL or whatever. If you fe3el so bad, then dun go cheonging anymore lor.

In a way, by cheonging, we are supporting them and realising their dream of making some money before going back to their hometown.
Better than going back empty handed right ?

Anyway I believe if your conscience is clear, why worry ?

Randi_Candi
11-07-2005, 05:06 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems? And also, for them, it's a very very big country. So if they leave their home-town to work as KTV Girls, they have to leave ALONE and go far away for fear of their family members discovering.

Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...
Many of them r paying for their house or even houses which can cost about half a mil RMB n their normal salaried fellow countrymen earn something like 1k-2krmb per mth

Know the thing in-depth, its a matter of sustaining lifestyle but there r also real nice 1s out there
Jus tread like u r on thin ice - B v careful

l3atu
11-07-2005, 05:06 PM
When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

Like wat you've quoted. They are just stories... ;)

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems?

My guess is dat they left their home far far to come SG to work partly is becoz of monetary problems. At the same time they are hoping to hook up a rich hubby so they can live in comfort for the rest of their life. Its the same in every countries (Thailand, Indonesia, Vietnam etc). :)

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 05:08 PM
ya i think is also because i'm still young and heart-soft..
sorry i have no intention to ask everyone to pity them.. just venting my feelings

l3atu
11-07-2005, 05:15 PM
ya i think is also because i'm still young and heart-soft..
sorry i have no intention to ask everyone to pity them.. just venting my feelings

Heart soft2 also can cheong lar. Just pretend the stories are bed time stories lor... :D

astrozz
11-07-2005, 05:31 PM
ya i think is also because i'm still young and heart-soft..
sorry i have no intention to ask everyone to pity them.. just venting my feelings

Live with it . THIS IS LIFE !

tionggoklan
11-07-2005, 05:43 PM
True lah Bro, yr heart too soft, maybe u still young.......but me not asking u to be iron-hearted, juz that to take their stories wif a pinch of salt.

I believe that there r sum real cases whereby they do this to support family, with 2 old sick parents, and a few younger siblings still skolin or can't work yet due to very young age.

However, there are also gals that do this to fulfill their aspiration, like to earn the most $$ in the shortest possible time, thereafter , they will use this $$ maybe to buy a decent house in their hometown n also start up a small biz.

In a big country like china, getting a decent job may not be that easy, competition is tough, unemployment rate is high. Many smaller cities/towns ppl rush to the big cities in search of a career/dream, but in the end realise that the cruel fact is far from the idealistic picture. So sum of them may not even got enuff to pay for their journey back home. Even if they do, what happen next, they become even poorer or in debt.

So for the gals, at least there is 1 way out, get into the flesh trade lor. There, they realize that they can earn much more than the normal salaried men, and the smarter 1 will save up the $$ n plan for their future.

Then of course when they cum accross kind-hearted customers like u, they will tend to pour their sorrows, they r human too. But what can u do? Help them financially? Udun know who is telling the truth n who isn't. Summore, even if it is true, if the gal has been in this line for a period of time n has been saving, she may actually be richer than u or us (a $ to a $ lah).

So when u cheong, leave yr sympathy behind, enjoy yrself, but of course, pay for their svc accordingly lah. Like that u r oreli helping them financially for whatever their needs r. Fair transaction, no need to feel bad. The most if they tell u their stiories, juz gif a listening ear or leaning shoulder, but that's all, dun go n fork out $$ to help them, like that u bring how much there also not enuff.

Juz my humble opinion based on personal experience.


ya i think is also because i'm still young and heart-soft..
sorry i have no intention to ask everyone to pity them.. just venting my feelings

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 05:52 PM
tionggoklan you are right. Maybe i just need more exposure to get myself used to such situations...

ChinaAlleWay
11-07-2005, 06:32 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...

haha..u know what ?
Most of the Gals in Fl, bbs, or service calls etc... actually they can easily find a job in factories in Big cities.
800 to 1000 RMB plus housing and 2 meals free.... so what u think ?

Those working in Fl,Ktv's or regardless any flesh trade are mostly same as us. They got e cash, we got e need's....

there's one even funny that i met in Xiamen 2 days ago, telling me how she support her family ( 1brother and a sister ). She can even said that she prefer working in e flesh trade....And btw, she just bought a house using full cash recently.... :o

haiz.... what to do ? that's life isnt it ???

altw78
11-07-2005, 07:03 PM
If other girls can work normal jobs,why cant they?
its all just an excuse.

siambee
11-07-2005, 07:47 PM
Go out have fun must not be too soft hearted, or else will be no more fun liao. take it easy.. ;)

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 08:05 PM
Ya thats the problem with me. Think have to leave sympathy aside when having fun nxt time, if not, it's wasting money already.

Maybe because i'm still young so lack of experience.. btw i'm 20..

Thanks for all the advice here..

ChinaAlleWay
11-07-2005, 08:30 PM
Ya thats the problem with me. Think have to leave sympathy aside when having fun nxt time, if not, it's wasting money already.

Maybe because i'm still young so lack of experience.. btw i'm 20..

Thanks for all the advice here..

Im 22 !! wooohoooo......
cum cum onto China dude ! wahaha :D
never mind i up u !...

Rof|maoxz
11-07-2005, 08:43 PM
Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...

Yeah, If I'm in your shoes. I will be very disturbed also. But the Q is....how many can you save themselves out of poverty? :( In chionging terms....if you get soft hearted, it's you who suffer. Spare yourself a thought.

iloveoversea
11-07-2005, 10:13 PM
Ya thats the problem with me. Think have to leave sympathy aside when having fun nxt time, if not, it's wasting money already.

Maybe because i'm still young so lack of experience.. btw i'm 20..



wah 20 liao leh. 1 more year to take key.

Seriously take their story with a pinch of salt. Sometimes there maybe over 200 grls in one KTv so u really think they are looking at big money? What they really want is to look good in front of their relatives lar.

Next time do take note that the chinaman when cheong never bother themselves about the lifes of the Ktv girls. They are there to enjoy only. If you are looking for things to bother u, hmmm think about how to get out of sillypore lar. :D

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 10:45 PM
Im 22 !! wooohoooo......
cum cum onto China dude ! wahaha :D
never mind i up u !...

Like that also kanna up-ed ah? Lol, thanks bro. Anyway you're only 22, what are u doing in China? Working there? Looks like your career is on the up very early!

Nokia6610
11-07-2005, 10:49 PM
Yeah, If I'm in your shoes. I will be very disturbed also. But the Q is....how many can you save themselves out of poverty? :( In chionging terms....if you get soft hearted, it's you who suffer. Spare yourself a thought.

Ya i already realized that if im soft-hearted, end up is ME unhappy. Have decided to put all feelings aside when chiong-ing.

dap26
11-07-2005, 10:52 PM
Ya i already realized that if im soft-hearted, end up is ME unhappy. Have decided to put all feelings aside when chiong-ing.


Ya u r rite.Cannot be emotional when come to chiong.Anyway u pity them,do they pity u as well by asking u to give less tip or etc?

denilson76
22-01-2011, 09:07 AM
Ya u r rite.Cannot be emotional when come to chiong.Anyway u pity them,do they pity u as well by asking u to give less tip or etc?

it seems that everyone of them have a sad story to tell. Always talk about sister's school fees lah...or mother is now living alone and need money for daily expenses lah...or even said want money to build house for mother and sibling ...blah...blah...blah..!!!

In the end, we have to slog like a buffalo just to pay for their spending which is not related to us or not even appreciated by them and their families. Got money talk love and till death do we part. If no money, MIA and don't call you and immediately become enemy. They will not even think or appreciate even 1% of what you have done for them. They will have no feeling for you.

Chinapuss
22-01-2011, 09:57 AM
Usually de sad stories are 99.99% FAKE...de coup up story is juz to con ur $ away.. :eek:

wali-kota
22-01-2011, 10:45 AM
They will not even think or appreciate even 1% of what you have done for them. They will have no feeling for you.

bro, i understand how you feel
but why u replied to a year 2005 post :confused:

drekman
22-01-2011, 11:02 AM
Hey hello, they dunt even care about u. All they wan is to cheat and con ur money.

77guy
22-01-2011, 03:41 PM
A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems? And also, for them, it's a very very big country. So if they leave their home-town to work as KTV Girls, they have to leave ALONE and go far away for fear of their family members discovering.

Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...

If u realli so noble, juz give $ to those gals u met w/o askin anythin for return...tell u lah, u'll be suprise by how much these street hooker can earn, sumtime much more than u or me...i koe a gal that cum work singapore's street for 1/2 a year, then change to a 2.5l SUV back hm...while after 10 odd years of work, i onli drive a small 1.6 japanese sedan..so wats there to pity them about??:confused::mad::D

naturegreen
22-01-2011, 04:11 PM
Then TS, maybe if you visit those third world countries, then you'd be even more unhappy and disturbed. Besides these young sweeties coming out to work at a tender age, you will see the ugly side of human mankind. Hunger and homeless people everywhere. Previously when I was in Kanchanaburi, a town in the outskirt of Bangkok, I've seen girls in their early teens - mid teens who have come out to work, small little boys begging on the streets, chasing after cars, women with no clothes living in the rural areas. I felt the same as you, a little disturbed and sad for them. But life goes on. We'd better learn to appreciate what we have.

denilson76
22-01-2011, 05:02 PM
bro, i understand how you feel
but why u replied to a year 2005 post :confused:

because I just came across it. Anyway what happen 2005 can also happen to another person in 2011.

Erasure
22-01-2011, 07:24 PM
Sometimes no need to pity them too much...


They are just whores and bitches...if u go soft...u become victim urself. There are good ones out there...also the bad apples, how the hell u noe who is real or fake. Ur duty is to just go support them, entertain them and spend money, in this way u r helping them. These girls always have an option, no matter how pitiful their story is. It is a matter of whether they want to solve their problems the fast and easy way, or the hard and long way (e.g. working in factory versus working in KTV).

If u feel really bad, some bros mention keeping them as mistress...or u can choose to help out the less fortunate in china by donating to the orphanage, elderly homes etc...or volunteer ur time there...alot of ways to compensate. ;)

Erasure
22-01-2011, 07:25 PM
Im 22 !! wooohoooo......
cum cum onto China dude ! wahaha :D
never mind i up u !...

WoW..u been surfing SBF since u were 15 years of age....:cool:

Sam The Caterer
23-01-2011, 01:14 AM
Bro,not only China,its all over. Thailand,Cambodia,India etc etc. Its just a vicious cycle, hence prostitution is the world's oldest profession. There will always be demand.

A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems? And also, for them, it's a very very big country. So if they leave their home-town to work as KTV Girls, they have to leave ALONE and go far away for fear of their family members discovering.

Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...

Doriemus
23-01-2011, 09:39 AM
I can feel for u, but I think its the "cant beat them,join them" attitude nowadays. Seriously, how can we stop them? So might as well join in... :cool:

A while ago, got back from China chionging trip. Well, i wasnt a regular chiongster in sg also, just occasionally.

Ok my point here is, i dont know why, when in China, i was really disturbed. When i hear their stories, like 20 yrs old only, left home alone to work here just to support family... You guys get the idea lah...

I know many of you are going to say, some of the girls are just making up the stories. I agree with you. But while i was there, i also thought to myself, which girl will want to work such a job if it wasn't because of monetary problems? And also, for them, it's a very very big country. So if they leave their home-town to work as KTV Girls, they have to leave ALONE and go far away for fear of their family members discovering.

Thus, i didn't really have a good time there at all. It just keep making me think... what if i were in their shoes, and etc. They're really poor things..

Sorry, this thread is just for me to vent out my feelings...