Marry Malaysian gals..

[Vigin Lover]

Hi bros,

Really need your feedback! I myself is a Singaporean and I have a Malaysian gf for many years and now we intend to settle down. She is not a PR or wat and now not working as she is still looking for a job (she used to have a work permit).
My pay is less than 2K per month and do you think MOM will approve on our marriage?
I damn blur sia...already book a ROM date on this coming Nov...wat if can't approve?! :eek:

Pls gimme your feedback..thanks!

[nakamara]

i think can la...so many ppl marry china wives...my colleague earning 1K+ a month only he also can...maybe can bring her here temporarily first then get a PR after marraige? I'm not sure...i'm still young so dunno bout such things

[axeman24]

Hi bros,

Really need your feedback! I myself is a Singaporean and I have a Malaysian gf for many years and now we intend to settle down. She is not a PR or wat and now not working as she is still looking for a job (she used to have a work permit).
My pay is less than 2K per month and do you think MOM will approve on our marriage?
I damn blur sia...already book a ROM date on this coming Nov...wat if can't approve?! :eek:

Pls gimme your feedback..thanks!

Bro, think you better check with MOM. Last time what happen to my friend is that he got marry to a malaysian girl and didn't inform MOM and in the end MOM ban the wife from coming into Singapore. Better check with them and see what is the requirment to married a malaysian.

[goodfun]

Think bro no problem,as long as you are happy wif her can liao,money is not everything ;)

[Vigin Lover]

Bro, think you better check with MOM. Last time what happen to my friend is that he got marry to a malaysian girl and didn't inform MOM and in the end MOM ban the wife from coming into Singapore. Better check with them and see what is the requirment to married a malaysian.

Went to MOM with my gf today...wah lau...fill up so many forms and need to bring in payslips, education cert, IC and etc..
I really hope they can approve lo....or else I already booked a date for ROM liao...cannot approve then I die la! :(

[dc7176]

bro Rof|maoxz, ur expertise is needed here. Help!

[Fantastic4]

from what I know, MOM wld nt approve those who have worked here before, unless they can show that they can contribute to the economy should they settle down here. I believe it's a case-by-case basis. Anyway, if her application is approved, she will be given a "permit" which is to be renewed yearly

[bebe_chris]

Sidetrack a little bit,

How about marrying a china gal? Any regulations?
My gal is here on student pass.

[spidermel]

bro i have a very gd friend who has a thai wife.For what i know if u can prove u have steady income, u pay ur cpf,and ur wife can find a job here which she hv to work for up to 5 years then she can get her PR...As for ROM it should not be a problem... bro this is what i know from my friend hope this will help u :)

[jeshezman]

Hi, bro

Please check carefully...there is a rule stating that work permit holder is not allowed to marry Singaporean without getting permission from the authority,,I'll may be wrong but safer to check it out. If I am not wrong, there will be a permanent ban from entering Singapore...so please check it out.

Just 2 cents worth of advice. :cool:

[rocketscientist]

kalimantan mail order brides considered malaysians? or indonesians?

[jedycity]

I think that MOM will approve lah...just a matter of time....
But I wonder...how do u register at ROM without the approval letter from MOM? They should have told u that? :confused:

[Rof|maoxz]

Hi bros,

Really need your feedback! I myself is a Singaporean and I have a Malaysian gf for many years and now we intend to settle down. She is not a PR or wat and now not working as she is still looking for a job (she used to have a work permit).
My pay is less than 2K per month and do you think MOM will approve on our marriage?
I damn blur sia...already book a ROM date on this coming Nov...wat if can't approve?!

Went to MOM with my gf today...wah lau...fill up so many forms and need to bring in payslips, education cert, IC and etc..
I really hope they can approve lo....or else I already booked a date for ROM liao...cannot approve then I die la! :(

I believed your application is being processed by MOM at the moment. So dun worry. If in extreme case they do not approve they application, den you have to cancel the ROM booking.

[Rof|maoxz]

from what I know, MOM wld nt approve those who have worked here before, unless they can show that they can contribute to the economy should they settle down here. I believe it's a case-by-case basis. Anyway, if her application is approved, she will be given a "permit" which is to be renewed yearly

Bro, you are correct. This has been their statement all the while. :)

Hi, bro

Please check carefully...there is a rule stating that work permit holder is not allowed to marry Singaporean without getting permission from the authority,,I'll may be wrong but safer to check it out. If I am not wrong, there will be a permanent ban from entering Singapore...so please check it out.

Just 2 cents worth of advice.

Not true, but it is subjected to MOM's approval for those currently holding WP or those who had hold work permit before. All Ex or current work-permit holders, are not allowed to marry a Singaporean or PR unless he has written permission from the Controller of Work Permits. If those who violate this regulation of not informing MOM before ROM registration, what bro jeshezman says is correct. Furthermore he/she is not allowed to return for an unspecified period of time.

Under the Marriage Restriction Policy, a work permit-holder must seek permission from the Controller of Work Permits to marry a Singaporean or PR, whether in or outside Singapore.

So please do not attempt to go backdoor. (I mean behind MOM's back.) But I got one small little good news to assure you. MOM has approved over 85 per cent of applications by work permit-holders to marry locals. :)

[Galactica]

My wife is a Malaysian. This is what I know when we got married in 1997.

Although you might have booked a date for ROM, you still need MOM's approval since your wife to be is a former work permit holder.

It also depends on her occuaption while holding the work permit at that time. If she is a production worker, sales line, etc. It should not be a problem. As long as her occupation is not vice related.

She will not be given a PR in the near future. She will be given a dependent pass. The dependent pass is usually valid for 3 months. When both of you become parent, ICA would give her a yearly dependent pass. When holding dependent pass, she is not able to be gainfully & legally employed. In other words, she is not permitted to work.

When applying for PR, both your educational level, your salary, your records(if any) would also be taken into consideration. It would help if you are a Civil Servant.

[SingViet]

My wife is a vietnamese. I will advise bros here to keep MANY copies of your education, CPF contribution, Pay Slip and Tax returns. You will need damm a lot of copies when you apply for PR for your wife. ICA's different departments requires them individually. For example, when you apply for PR for your wife, they require you to show all these documents. PR Matters is on 5th Floor of ICA building. After you apply for PR for your wife, u need to go down to Visitors Centre on 4th floor of ICA. They will again ask for all these documents to be submitted. Damm... don't understand why need to submit so many times. Aren't their computer linked?

But my case is super complicated... hehehe i have submitted the documents at least 3 times liao.

[Rof|maoxz]

My wife is a vietnamese. I will advise bros here to keep MANY copies of your education, CPF contribution, Pay Slip and Tax returns. You will need damm a lot of copies when you apply for PR for your wife. ICA's different departments requires them individually. For example, when you apply for PR for your wife, they require you to show all these documents. PR Matters is on 5th Floor of ICA building. After you apply for PR for your wife, u need to go down to Visitors Centre on 4th floor of ICA. They will again ask for all these documents to be submitted. Damm... don't understand why need to submit so many times. Aren't their computer linked?

But my case is super complicated... hehehe i have submitted the documents at least 3 times liao.

Erm...bro I understand your dilemma. Keke~ STSVP/LTSVP and Permanent Resident Services, although under one roof but acts differently. Of course their system is linked, but didn't you notice that if you have extend your LTSVP for your wife after the first renewal, you do not even need to re-submit all the documents again. Just the important one like original/photocopy of marriage cert, photocopy of your NRIC and your wife's travel document. Lastly is your last 12 mths of CPF contribution. As for PR application, no choice you have to re-submit them again and again till you get it approve. :)

But why you need to go down to visitor centers again to submit your applicationa again?

[Vigin Lover]

Bro, you are correct. This has been their statement all the while. :)



Not true, but it is subjected to MOM's approval for those currently holding WP or those who had hold work permit before. All Ex or current work-permit holders, are not allowed to marry a Singaporean or PR unless he has written permission from the Controller of Work Permits. If those who violate this regulation of not informing MOM before ROM registration, what bro jeshezman says is correct. Furthermore he/she is not allowed to return for an unspecified period of time.

Under the Marriage Restriction Policy, a work permit-holder must seek permission from the Controller of Work Permits to marry a Singaporean or PR, whether in or outside Singapore.

So please do not attempt to go backdoor. (I mean behind MOM's back.) But I got one small little good news to assure you. MOM has approved over 85 per cent of applications by work permit-holders to marry locals. :)


Thanks to all bros who had adviced me.
I am quite relived to hear that MOM has approved over 85 per cent of applications by work permit-holders to marry locals....hehehe...

[Rof|maoxz]

Thanks to all bros who had adviced me.
I am quite relived to hear that MOM has approved over 85 per cent of applications by work permit-holders to marry locals....hehehe...

My dear bro, it's "Thanks to all bros who had advised me." :)

Do not worry too much about the approval. You will be a happy bridegroom with a happy bride in Oct/Nov. ;)

[Vigin Lover]

My dear bro, it's "Thanks to all bros who had advised me." :)

Paisey paisey! My English not very good la.. :rolleyes:

[spidermel]

Everything in Singapore is S and 11 $$$... I have another friend who stay in Philippines for 11 years and he marry his wife who is a fillipino and they have 3 kids... When he cm back few years ago with his familly when he earn enough money and decided to give his son better education here... He have a lot of problem with his son and wife PR status... In the end he tell me Imigration ask him... How much have u pay for ur income taxs for the past 11 years? How much u contribute to CPF before? To cut it short all is about $$$... Within 3 years his son can study here, wife and son get their PR and of course he CONTRIBUTE alot $$$... So from his example if u got contribute income tax and cpf then should not be problem... ( To bro reading this i only trying to help and i cant write well so if there are any mistake pls pardon me) :)

[Rof|maoxz]

Everything in Singapore is S and 11 $$$... I have another friend who stay in Philippines for 11 years and he marry his wife who is a fillipino and they have 3 kids... When he cm back few years ago with his familly when he earn enough money and decided to give his son better education here... He have a lot of problem with his son and wife PR status... In the end he tell me Imigration ask him... How much have u pay for ur income taxs for the past 11 years? How much u contribute to CPF before? To cut it short all is about $$$... Within 3 years his son can study here, wife and son get their PR and of course he CONTRIBUTE alot $$$... So from his example if u got contribute income tax and cpf then should not be problem...

Tks~ for relating your friend's incident. Sadly but true this is SGP style, reason is because they doesn't want low-skilled or uneduvated workers to blend into the SGP community by going back-door to marry with SGP citizens or PR. But SGP welcomes foreign talents with open arms and legs, grant them PR, privileges. Contradict isn't it? :)

[Vigin Lover]

Tks~ for relating your friend's incident. Sadly but true this is SGP style, reason is because they doesn't want low-skilled or uneduvated workers to blend into the SGP community by going back-door to marry with SGP citizens or PR. But SGP welcomes foreign talents with open arms and legs, grant them PR, privileges. Contradict isn't it? :)

Its all about $$$ ma!

[SingViet]

Erm...bro I understand your dilemma. Keke~ STSVP/LTSVP and Permanent Resident Services, although under one roof but acts differently. Of course their system is linked, but didn't you notice that if you have extend your LTSVP for your wife after the first renewal, you do not even need to re-submit all the documents again. Just the important one like original/photocopy of marriage cert, photocopy of your NRIC and your wife's travel document. Lastly is your last 12 mths of CPF contribution. As for PR application, no choice you have to re-submit them again and again till you get it approve. :)

But why you need to go down to visitor centers again to submit your applicationa again?

Bro Bro,

Mine is a very complicated case. Very different from the rest of the bros here. Not just wife involved.. kids involved too. I mean MY kids. :confused:

[Rof|maoxz]

Bro Bro,

Mine is a very complicated case. Very different from the rest of the bros here. Not just wife involved.. kids involved too. I mean MY kids. :confused:

Bro I understand the complexity of such case, esp. relating to past divorce. If the proceedings had been properly completed and finalised, shouldn't be any problem. ICA very meticulous towards divorcee. :)

[Teh Ni]

kalimantan mail order brides considered malaysians? or indonesians?

Kalimantan is indonesia, so should be considered indonesians. I heard the chinese girls there are quite pretty and like most indonesian chinese very fair, don't know if its true.

[Rof|maoxz]

Kalimantan is indonesia, so should be considered indonesians. I heard the chinese girls there are quite pretty and like most indonesian chinese very fair, don't know if its true.

Kalimantan and medan ladies very jude lay. They are refine and speak with poise. I have met few of them, too bad no sparks being ignited. :p

[Rof|maoxz]

Sidetrack a little bit,

How about marrying a china gal? Any regulations?
My gal is here on student pass.

I have written a short reply to one of the bro in this thread (http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=40380&page=2&highlight=student+pass). Please read thru... Any doubts post in here. :)

[Rof|maoxz]

Posted dtd 17-08-2005, 01:10 PM

Need some advice from brothers here.

I have cheong a lot of TN shops. But there was this PRC syt whom I have developed feelings for. We have gone out for several times and I have been to her rented apartment once.

However, I feel that she sometimes is warm and sometimes cold to me.

She says she likes me too but needs time to slowly work things out.

Any advise? I know I am playing with fire coz PRC gals are known to like only $$$.

Traced back to your previous post, I'm just giving you my thought. Dun rush love, especially thru such encounter. Give yourself some lead time before discussing marriage plans later. Dun get married for the sake of it. :)

[dt3305]

From my knowledge, the rules(updated) are:

Marriage(Foreign spouse):
a. If foreign spouse is presently working or used to work in Singapore before, you need to apply to MOM for permession to get married but lately many new application has comes back with a standard reply" You are not required to seek permession to marry a Singaporan citizen." So the rule has change but check first better.
b. If foreign spouse has never work in Singapore before, you need only register your marriage in Singapore. With the marriage certificate, apply to ICA for dependent pass. They will grant you a 6 monthly or yearly entry permit(renewal basis) for your spouse. You need to prepare a list of documents for your application. ID, birth certificate, income proof, letter from eomployer, income tax for past 3 years, cpf for last 12 months, educational certificate.

PR Application:
Irrespective of whether spouse has work in Singapore or never, you still can apply PR for her. The documents needed are:
a. ID, birth certificate, passport(including photocopy of endorsemnet pages).
b. Educational certificate(If in chinese, must be translated by certified translator at Supreme Court)
c. Income tax for past 3 years
d. CPF contribution for past 12 months
e. Letter of employment stating last 6 months salary
f. Marriage certificate
g. If have children, birth certificate

Go to www.ica.gov.sg. Click on PR services to find out more and download Form 4 for PR application(for married spouse).

Most PR application will be rejected at first attempt and need to try again after 1 year. Contrary to myth that income plays a part, it is only a consideration. But if you have a good and steady income, it helps. If you have children, you will amost 100% get it at 1st or 2nd try.

Remember, ICA will grant your spouse PR. It's just a matter of time. If your effort is frustrated after a few attempts. then knock on your MP door to write ligthning letter to ICA.

[Rof|maoxz]

From my knowledge, the rules (updated) are:

Marriage (Foreign spouse):
a. If foreign spouse is presently working or used to work in Singapore before, you need to apply to MOM for permession to get married but lately many new application has comes back with a standard reply" You are not required to seek permession to marry a Singaporan citizen." So the rule has change but check first better.
b. If foreign spouse has never work in Singapore before, you need only register your marriage in Singapore. With the marriage certificate, apply to ICA for dependent pass. They will grant you a 6 monthly or yearly entry permit(renewal basis) for your spouse. You need to prepare a list of documents for your application. ID, birth certificate, income proof, letter from eomployer, income tax for past 3 years, cpf for last 12 months, educational certificate.

Nope. You still need written permission from MOM controller for marriage between ex/current work permit holder and SGP citizens/PRs. There's no change in the ruling. As for the appropriate form, please go to MOM's building to get it.

[oakleyeug]

Since you guys bring up this topic, can anyone offer any assistant to me?

I work in China but maybe getting hitched up next year (GF China lady), but I did not contribute CPF or anything. Now after seeing so many problem that you guys face I am starting to get worried.

Is there any ways I can get ROM to approve my marriage?

Oak

[Rof|maoxz]

Since you guys bring up this topic, can anyone offer any assistant to me?

I work in China but maybe getting hitched up next year (GF China lady), but I did not contribute CPF or anything. Now after seeing so many problem that you guys face I am starting to get worried.

Is there any ways I can get ROM to approve my marriage?

Oak

I assumed that if only marriage plan is on your card right now, you can register your marriage in china. SGP recognised almost all marriage being solemnized outside of singapore. My only worry is that how to bring your wife over to stay here for long as it is subjected to ICA controller's approval. :)



Extracted from ROM website.
Q. What are the common things I need to know, as a
Singaporean/PR who have married overseas?

1) The law does not require couples who contracted marriages
overseas to re-register (includes "converting" or "endorsing" a
foreign marriage certificate) with the Singapore ROM.
The marriage certificate issued by the competent authority
of the foreign country may be accepted as prima facie evidence
of a marriage between the parties named in the certificate.

2) You may update agencies which you have dealings with, about
your new marital status. For example, you may wish to update
your marital status with CPF Board (Central Provident Fund)
to change nomination of CPF beneficiary.

3) If you wish to insert your husband's name into your
identification documents, you may contact the Immigration
& Checkpoints Authority.

4) If your spouse is a foreigner and you like to obtain
permanent residence or citizenship for him/her, you may
seek the advice of the Immigration & Checkpoints Authority.

[oakleyeug]

Hey Thks Rof|maoxz,

I did went to ICA to view the site but not really it solve my problems.

The worst part is will SG recongize my present after so long, now I still contribute to CPF but only a measly sum of S$200 every month. Will they judge me by this event? I am only a N Level student and will that help?

On my facts,

I am being paid at a resonable sum in China but it is a Taiwanese Company, they do not contribute to my CPF. My GF has a Degree and work for a recongized MNC (World Wide Recongize) will that help?

The ICA have no e-mail that I can forward my help rite? Thanks to all brothers here that have answered the questions.

Oak

[Rof|maoxz]

Hey Thks Rof|maoxz,

I did went to ICA to view the site but not really it solve my problems.

The worst part is will SG recongize my present after so long, now I still contribute to CPF but only a measly sum of S$200 every month. Will they judge me by this event? I am only a N Level student and will that help?

On my facts,

I am being paid at a resonable sum in China but it is a Taiwanese Company, they do not contribute to my CPF. My GF has a Degree and work for a recongized MNC (World Wide Recongize) will that help?

The ICA have no e-mail that I can forward my help rite? Thanks to all brothers here that have answered the questions.

Oak

Sorry I can't give you the specific email address. This is the best I can offer.
[email protected] Dun worry about the CPF contribution thingy. If you command a high pay in china, you can always top-up cash in the ordinary account if you want.

If your gerfrd has a good qualification, you can applied for the professional pass herself. For more details please read up my two signatures, tks~ :)

[oakleyeug]

Rof|maoxz thanks a million,

I do not command a very high pay in China, still lost to a lot of people I know. I know that I can top up CPF with my ordinary account but all my cash are struck in China so now finding ways to get them out of China and into my SG account.

My GF does have a good cert but also I have asked the Singapore MNC side to help obtain a position for her, I really do hope that maybe she will be there for 6 months attachment. Maybe by then I can get the PR that I hope for.

Still thanking u with a million thks (sorry exhausted my rep power will up u once I am available.

Oak

[davsoo]

Virgin Lover, congratulations that you are getting married soon.

if all above suggestions did not work out,

can try go see your mp.

still failed, can try buy house in JB. you can come to Singapore to work then go home to jb after work. the down side is it is very trouble some for you but at least you can get to marry your gf. extra benefits cost of living might be lower.

by the way there are many malaysian who does that daily and they are happy. why make sing dollar then go home spend ringgit. 1k = 2.25k rm

meanwhile try again every now and then. one day you will succeed.

[akiyo]

hi

just to add on, say we approached MOM for a permission to marry a foreigner, how long is the approval valid for? a few mths or indefinitely?

from what i know, diff ppl will meet diff problems cos the income, qualifications r diff. best is to go down personally ask the staff to see what u need n apply for it

[Rof|maoxz]

hi

just to add on, say we approached MOM for a permission to marry a foreigner, how long is the approval valid for? a few mths or indefinitely?

from what i know, diff ppl will meet diff problems cos the income, qualifications r diff. best is to go down personally ask the staff to see what u need n apply for it. <----MOM don't ask for it, ICA does.

It should not be longer then a week. The approval from MOM is for ex/current work permit holders to get married with SPR/Citizens, afterwhich you can go ahead with the ROM registration.

[Vigin Lover]

It should not be longer then a week. The approval from MOM is for ex/current work permit holders to get married with SPR/Citizens, afterwhich you can go ahead with the ROM registration.

Just received the approval from MOM for my ROM with my Malaysian gf, really happy! :)

[D_Silver]

Just received the approval from MOM for my ROM with my Malaysian gf, really happy! :)

Congratulations :)

[Vigin Lover]

Congratulations :)

Thanks bro! :)

[sincereman74]

Just received the approval from MOM for my ROM with my Malaysian gf, really happy! :)



Good for you. Congratulations! How I wish I can have a Malaysian gf too! ;)

[Rof|maoxz]

Just received the approval from MOM for my ROM with my Malaysian gf, really happy! :)

Ya, I'm also delighted by the good news. Hope both of you have a blissful and accommodating marriage, be patient with each other. This is the start for another long journey. :)

[hthderrick]

bro,vigin lover

congratulation to you,but the way which part of malaysia is she frm?i still single can ask her to introduce her frds anot? :D hahaha!joking lah

Rgds
hthderrick

[Siong2]

Good for you. Congratulations! How I wish I can have a Malaysian gf too! ;)

Heehee, just wan to share with some bros my life. Married a Malaysian also, althought not very pretty, normal present looking gal, work as a cleck with normal income. But come to duty as a wife, I give her above 90% ley, a good wife that really takes care of me well.
When first time goes to her house, a small village in Pahang. Her mum's impression that gave me is also those 父唱妇随, 任劳任怨 type.
Overall: consider me a lucky and happy man. ^^V

[Rof|maoxz]

Heehee, just wan to share with some bros my life. Married a Malaysian also, althought not very pretty, normal present looking gal, work as a cleck with normal income. But come to duty as a wife, I give her above 90% ley, a good wife that really takes care of me well.
When first time goes to her house, a small village in Pahang. Her mum's impression that gave me is also those 父唱妇随, 任劳任怨 type.
Overall: consider me a lucky and happy man. ^^V

Malaysia boleh!! :p

[jng1103]

Good for you. Congratulations! How I wish I can have a Malaysian gf too!

What about a Msian (PR) marrying a Sillypore gf? lucky or unlucky? :rolleyes:

jimbo

[Siong2]

What about a Msian (PR) marrying a Sillypore gf? lucky or unlucky? :rolleyes:

jimbo

Good Luck. lol

[Rof|maoxz]

What about a Msian (PR) marrying a Sillypore gf? lucky or unlucky? :rolleyes:

jimbo

Are you referring to yourself? :D

[jng1103]

Are you referring to yourself?

YES... *sob* *sob* :(

jimbo

[shadowlunar04]

YES... *sob* *sob* :(

jimbo

Then you'll need lots of luck and cash too. :D

[jng1103]

Then you'll need lots of luck and cash too.

dun scare me hor... i havent sworned in yet so still can back up... (kidding)

anyway, i belif dat i'm up to her standard lor... if not better :)

kam xia,
jimbo

[euro2004]

Dear Brudders...
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I contribute what I know. If you think it's good advise or positive input, please up my points for the next few days. Need some points.
If disapprove, please dun zap me for trying to give inputs.
And I'm not related to gov or that sort of organization.
PM me if you have further queries.
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Key word is still contribution.
1) What contribution have you done for Singapore?
2) Prove it.
Other factor:
3) Era and Economy factor.
4) Income and Educational level for both.
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I have friends in similiar situation, not exact situation.
Be it SG-guy&MY-gal (3 example), SG-guy&TH-gal, MY-guy&SG-Gal, MY-Guy&MY-gal (with Aust PR), and other include business employees situation.
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1) SG guy & MY Gal: He is police officer who runs around chasing. married more than 7-9 years. have kid. well easy for him. And I'm not related to him, if you guys are thinking negatively.
Wife got PR easily, cos back then a few yeas back easier and he serve the country, sign on etc. If not he also wouldn't join the force. And in his time, giv didn;t asked much about what wife could do for the nation.

2) SG guy & MY gal: He Dip holder. She, dip holder, now working as operator. -Please note MLM is not a proper job. Especially in Singapore. It is only if singapore population can multiply double in every 2 yrs. That's beside the point, but there both doing MLM PT. They cant quit their full time to persue MLM, and still keep PR status, for her. How to justify and report to CPF on MLM income? How much? She got lots of income and buyers from Malaysia side vs singapore, that is providing her the $$ from MLM, but of course who is going to report tax in singapore when earn in Malaysia, right?
-She still await PR, although guy is singaporean. Kid staying with papa's parents, kid is not a sg citizen by default. Pity the kid, caught in the middle. Brudders please think of the hassle you will face and the kid's, so paper document is super importance.

3) SG guy & MY Gal: He's a grad, she's from RJC, NUS. She was in IT few yrs back before bubble bust. She did not apply, within less than 3 months of work, she got a letter offering her. This is due to (look at above, point 3) economic factor. IT was in then. Not now. IT have slide down to 5th or 6th priority.
*on the side: Indian programmer use to take advantage of this to be stepping stone to either US, CAnada, UK, Aust or other country on Singapore's PR offering.
*on the side: Currently top, needed in singapore (in no order but preference are those that are listed on the 1st cat...
1st cat: Life science, Bio-science, Pharmeceutical related.
2nd cat: Accountancy, IT, programmer.
Accountancy always there. the rest changes according to time and ecomonic requirement.

4) SG-guy & TH-gal: He's 'O', doing odd job with good heart, and she from kampung, no qualification. Have kid, of 3-5 yrs now. married few years back. needless to say... frequent visit to ICA and lots of Ping-Pong every year, I heard. for over a few years, always heard them saying, taking care of the situation. say 30-40% of your waken hours thinking and settling domestic affair. How can you be productive in work?
-I recommened jobs for him till use up my contact. All bosses claim, he can't
be 100% at work. I also pai seh. Feb-Apr this yr for tax, dun really understand english and fill up form. Called up by ICA(ex-SIA) for interview, fill up form, apply, etc and etc. Whaa.. heard already also headache. Sponsor wife to stay her by different means... sometimes wife force to be away from Singapore. SHe's a thai, so not like Malaysia, can drive, buy a bus ticket. Mental stress for him, for her, for his parents, for her parents, for his family members in singapore, sometimes his friend and his co-workers and boss.

5) MY-guy&SG-Gal: Guy is slightly well-to-do, that's why gal thought happy liao. But he's only dip holder. She a dip holder too. Both not even management level, not even bottom management. Complain complain complain... gal prefer singapore, wants him to settle here. Haha... yeah right. Always sees him drives his MY registered car ard singapore (that was 3-5 yrs back)... seldom sees them now. Heard he loose the car, they can't get HDB. He's not PR, working permit I think. Looks like a loving couple. But heard from friend and friends... they quarrel often, mental stress, paper works, documents, PR status, citizenship, kids born where, study where, $$$ etc.. still no kid, gal above 30 liao. He can't oversee his malaysia fortune (dad's own something there, not big time, but apparently enough for standard malaysia income level, economy, standard malaysian family to own cars, house etc. Well the exchange rate doesn't help him.
He got to prove and contribute, when he's in Singapore, for Singapore in Singapore. Not what his dad has done in malaysia, or what he had done in malaysia. He got to start clean sheet, in singapore and takes time to build over the years, let's see in the next few years.

6) MY-Guy&MY-gal (with Aust PR): He's Aust grad in Finance, also masters. She's Aust grad, CPA too. Both gotten their Australia PR easily, both late 20s. But family says, too far, culture difference, etc etc... both parents wanted to carried 'little devils'... so they decided to move to singapore.
Came here and Malaysia for 2 months. Previously applied and arrange for interviews. Got a series of interviews. They told me, he got 3-4 offers, she got offered from Big-4 (cos of her experience with them too) and others. He's salary alone is near 5 digit. She could jus kick back, but she's a smart lady too. Company willing to sponsor them. And big-4 have department handling top exec (ang mohs CEOs etc) on PR and working matters, and they dun mind arranging for them. Told them within less than 3 months, they'll definately got letter, offering PR to them. Sure enough, 6 weeks, both got letters.
They also did prepare their previous taxes, paper works, letters from previous supervisors, all complete.
-went on bought a condo under their name, company offered BMW, they got a 2nd car for traveling back to malaysia. Parents were able to apply for dependant pass. Wife expecting 2nd kid in 2 years.

-Contribution, contribution. Although the last example got the potential to contribute, becos they have higher potential contribution and their track record did showed, from aust working experience. So if you are sg gov, the risk is less, you gain more tax from the last couple. They are capable of earning and spending big bucks.
-Singapore is a cut throat for business and survival of top executive.
you have work experience, educational level, can survive, the gov is willing to give you a chance.
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Advise for brudders to have wife from Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam.
I saw a few uncle, and new viet wife (doesn't take a genius to figure out). Did tried on setting up store to serve Viet food.
Taste: homely viet food than other viet restaurant. Love it.
BUt they close down after a while, dunno why.
most singaporean willing to go for nice food... if they want to survive, they should try managing their store better, share resources. Provide themself with a 2nd income. Guy work for someone, family help out in food store.
Not saying this is the perfect, but could be done to get your ultimate goal, your wife's PR status.
example: Thai Ice coffee and Thai Ice tea is delicious. Thai kue kue (cake etc), thai curry, Viet Beef noodle, Viet drip coffee, BBQ sugar cane shrimp, Malaysia's Bak But Teh (not singapore's pepper soup), and other dishes...
Viet, thai and malaysia, geographically not far, taste bud still similiar.
We can accept mashed potatoes, pasta, terquila, kim chi, kabab, why not those.
-you probably need more than 20 items to make customers come back and try out others. If you have a viet wife, if you know other's have, try create a small viet, thai community for customer to have wide selection.
cant afford to be lazy in singapore.
Singaporean willing to pay S$5 for a bowl of noodle.
Good luck.
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I contribute what I know. If you think it's good advise or positive input, please up my points for the next few days. Need some points.
If disapprove, please dun zap me for trying to give inputs.
And I'm not related to gov or that sort of organization.
PM me if you have further queries.

[shadowlunar04]

dun scare me hor... i havent sworned in yet so still can back up... (kidding)

anyway, i belif dat i'm up to her standard lor... if not better :)

kam xia,
jimbo

Ok, let me put it in crude. I, myself, also have a couple of sg gal as gf before. Ok, that's the fun part. Here comes to bitter pill. When you are into the so-called stable stage, you'll see they have a very far vision. Like? Better accomodations (at least a 5 room HDB), own transportation, holiday plans every year, etc. They want you to stretch to the limits, EVERY MONTH. Yah, they will chip in, you might say. But in long runs, the guys will be the ones who lose out. Worse still, some even discuss divorce alimonies even before ROM. Sg gals are not stupid and they cover their backsides really well. I'm not trying to scare you, I have friends like that. I'm not condemning sg gals but in my personal views, most of them failed miserably in wife department. I do agree they are good lovers, fun to be with and playful in bed. But at the end of the day, I need someone who understands me and knows how to take good care of me.

[jng1103]

Ok, let me put it in crude. I, myself, also have a couple of sg gal as gf before. Ok, that's the fun part. Here comes to bitter pill. When you are into the so-called stable stage, you'll see they have a very far vision. Like? Better accomodations (at least a 5 room HDB), own transportation, holiday plans every year, etc. They want you to stretch to the limits, EVERY MONTH. Yah, they will chip in, you might say. But in long runs, the guys will be the ones who lose out. Worse still, some even discuss divorce alimonies even before ROM. Sg gals are not stupid and they cover their backsides really well. I'm not trying to scare you, I have friends like that. I'm not condemning sg gals but in my personal views, most of them failed miserably in wife department. I do agree they are good lovers, fun to be with and playful in bed. But at the end of the day, I need someone who understands me and knows how to take good care of me.

thanks for ur gentle reminder and i'm fully aware of the consequences. i know the risks involved but when love comes, i bet u can stop it. it's fate, perhaps. i agree that majority of sg women r rubbish (READ: car + money = fun + free bonks). I've been clubbing and seen it all... these women are nothing but thrash. anyway, it's just a game as far as i'm concerned.

back to our topic. i belif dat it's all depends on their family backgrounds and frens influence. yes, most of them r $$$ minded aka materialistic but i dun see any prob if she works hard for it. i've met few non-sg women who got the same attitude prob as majority of sillypore women. so, it's all luck or fate. so, wish me luck lor... hehe ;)

[shadowlunar04]

back to our topic. i belif dat it's all depends on their family backgrounds and frens influence. yes, most of them r $$$ minded aka materialistic but i dun see any prob if she works hard for it. i've met few non-sg women who got the same attitude prob as majority of sillypore women. so, it's all luck or fate. so, wish me luck lor... hehe ;)

Hmmm.........maybe you're right. But regarding about the attitudes and materialistic, I have to admit some foreign gals do have these thinkings too. But only after they lived in here for quite sometime, then they cultivate this kind of thinkings. Actually, if you want to compare the thinkings of the local gals and foreign gals are inversely proportionate. ;)

[Rof|maoxz]

Better accomodations (at least a 5 room HDB), own transportation, holiday plans every year, etc. They want you to stretch to the limits, EVERY MONTH. Yah, they will chip in, you might say. But in long runs, the guys will be the ones who lose out. Worse still, some even discuss divorce alimonies even before ROM. Sg gals are not stupid and they cover their backsides really well. I'm not trying to scare you, I have friends like that. I'm not condemning sg gals but in my personal views, most of them failed miserably in wife department. I do agree they are good lovers, fun to be with and playful in bed. But at the end of the day, I need someone who understands me and knows how to take good care of me.

Recommend me one lah. Write until so lengthy. :D :p

[jng1103]

Recommend me one lah. Write until so lengthy.

u want msian women? i got plenty... just go to factory at Tuas :D

jimbo

[Rof|maoxz]

Dear Brudders...
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I contribute what I know. If you think it's good advise or positive input, please up my points for the next few days. Need some points.
If disapprove, please dun zap me for trying to give inputs.
And I'm not related to gov or that sort of organization.
PM me if you have further queries.
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To summarize mine after digesting your post, Govt. never oppose it's citizens/PRs to marry foreigner. But pertaining to spouse's PR application, den it is at their mercy. If you are lucky, real lucky, *blink* your wife will get it after the first or second application. If they wanna "fool around" with your application, you cry mother cry father, kneel in front of MP also tah jalan. :cool:

Past experiences are always helpful to refer to. But not necessary it will apply to everyone.

[shadowlunar04]

Recommend me one lah. Write until so lengthy.

You want ah? Let's go pub and chiong. See if you want to marry them. :D :p

[Rof|maoxz]

dun scare me hor... i havent sworned in yet so still can back up... (kidding)

anyway, i belif dat i'm up to her standard lor... if not better :)

kam xia,
jimbo

Nvm lah. I allocate one foreign bridegroom slot in the foreign brides club lor. Haha~ :D

[Rof|maoxz]

You want ah? Let's go pub and chiong. See if you want to marry them. :D :p

From where one? So scary one meh?

[shadowlunar04]

From where one? So scary one meh?

Kekeke...........dun tell you. :D

[sdfr]

Virgin BOy

you can marry whoever you like. Just register. then apply for PR for her. it might take a while but you can appeal.

Each time appeal take 6 weeks in which case she need to chop her passport for temporary visit pass or something.

Worse case u go in and out of JB once every fortnight lah.

[Stevebexk]

bro,vigin lover

congratulation to you,but the way which part of malaysia is she frm?i still single can ask her to introduce her frds anot? :D hahaha!joking lah

Rgds
hthderrick

Broooooooooo…..

[Fort]

Broooooooooo…..

Duuuuuuuuuuuude.........
2005 post you respond now ?

[krazyhippo]

Soon their whole family/ relatives will try to come stay at your place....

[bbm82]

Congrats,

the approval is from MOM is only formalities since they are WP, they will approve eventually. if u already have a ROM date just let the MOM know its time sensitive.

So long genuine marriage no reason they will reject.

after marriage u can apply LTDP+ so she can work here and the company wun need to pay levy also.

[Lamch]

Hi bros,

Really need your feedback! I myself is a Singaporean and I have a Malaysian gf for many years and now we intend to settle down. She is not a PR or wat and now not working as she is still looking for a job (she used to have a work permit).
My pay is less than 2K per month and do you think MOM will approve on our marriage?
I damn blur sia...already book a ROM date on this coming Nov...wat if can't approve?! :eek:

Pls gimme your feedback..thanks!

u should see a psychologist bro

[maxspeed54]

well, are u happy with her?
but i think she should run fast

[AE86LoverBoy]

Duuuuuuuuuuuude.........
2005 post you respond now ?

maybe he saw topic never realise date and was in first page

[justdroppingby]

kalimantan mail order brides considered malaysians? or indonesians?

indonesian i guess, unless border zone