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bennzi
14-12-2005, 01:44 AM
Hi guys,

Ever wonder the above do not always strike a balance??? good massage..but lousy sex or lousy massage and good sex???

after cheonging for a while...the thrill of satisfaction had eroded over the yrs... how many of you had good encounters??? wonderful massage and wonderful sex..but not always with a looker??? maybe some of you can share if you had any during your course of cheonging...

Seems like..all..TN and HC..gals had a SOP guide in their heads...soft massage then..asking for hj,bj,fj...experience too much of such routine...kinder bored at times..or worst un-stimulating..sigh...could you say decline in service standards??

I was wondering, when could one of those reputable spa house, offer good spa treatment, massage,nice environment , decent ladies (i mean looks)

at least with the above services met..we will enjoy the massage more other then just sex..if we all want just fj..why not got for gl/fl gals instead.

Just like to share my thoughts to all bro here..not sure whats your view?? BTW good spa house i been to a few..would say everything is good..but they always missed out the after treatment part...(Hj,Bj.Fj) do understand they wont wana risk their license..but hey...i believe this decent place are safer from AV then the usual TN/HCs.

At the moment, still searching for the ultimate spa houses.....guys your view?
will share if i come across anything close.

djuan6453
14-12-2005, 09:09 AM
If you look hard enough such gems can be found. However, I agree with you that they are far and few between.

darkbat
14-12-2005, 10:54 AM
One other thing I realise is that the 'repeat' massage is somehow always not as good as the first one. Say, you went to this place and found someone who gives a damn good massage. Somehow, the next time I go look for her, the massage is always not as good as the 1st time. Why?? I haven't figure it out yet. So its a lot of hits and misses and follow-up on bros tips to find places with good massage.

1 correlation seems to be true though (generally but not always). The nicer they look, their massage skill usually CMI. Kinda remind me 'the dirtier the place, the nice the food' correlation. :D

I have only managed to come across one who looks half-decent and very good skill. Alas lost her contact already. :(

IloveBusty
14-12-2005, 11:48 AM
I chiong HC for more than 10 years liao but still can not find 1 with Good Massage+Good Look+Good Sex leh....:o

If you come across any, pls remember to inform me. Kamsiah so beri much U ;)

rahl
14-12-2005, 12:44 PM
One other thing I realise is that the 'repeat' massage is somehow always not as good as the first one. Say, you went to this place and found someone who gives a damn good massage. Somehow, the next time I go look for her, the massage is always not as good as the 1st time. Why?? I haven't figure it out yet. So its a lot of hits and misses and follow-up on bros tips to find places with good massage.


Interesting leh. Maybe first time, she doesnt know what u want, whether u want special, so give a good professional massage? ;)

bennzi
16-12-2005, 04:55 PM
Hi darkbat,

kinder agreed with ur statements, thats why spend most of the time TN/HC hopping...in search of the 'perfect' masseur...duno if i ever can find one that suit your needs...

therefore, gotta spend time looking ard,reading FR...but at times, whats mentioned in the forum is not 100% accurate..or the gals are too hard to book due to their popularity..

welll..in any case..we are all searching for the 'utimate' masseur....

wmak
16-12-2005, 05:42 PM
hello brother bennzi,
your question on where to find good massage plus good sex, i myself would also like to know. honestly, i think its 'almost impossible' to find such a person. why? because why would a pretty WL practise to be a good masseur and develope 'unsightly' big muscular arms when they can make their money by easier means? good masseurs on the other hand are what they are because they have lesser options. they probably make more by focusing on providing good massage than to offer 'specials'. i think to solve this problem, may i suggest we go for back to back 2 different massage sessions, one with the good massage and the second for our other needs.

akaza24
16-12-2005, 09:56 PM
I guess the one I ever come close is Vicky from Wellness Boutique at boat quay. Good looks+Good massage+Good attitude+Good Hj, price quite reasonable too. Too bad she was there for awhile only.

bennzi
17-12-2005, 09:46 AM
Hi bros,

Never doubted the 'hard' search to look for one...what is ideally to me is the whole experience...other then specifically lookg for fj..i go into any TN/HC with the main purpose of relaxation...and if that place offers special..kinder plus factor to me. But atlas, never had such luck.

Places like TN, usually environment minimal...lousy music, bad partition, can hear ppl talk over at the next partition. lousy smells..massage so so..only good is CHEAP!!.. so never can enjoy there. For HC, environment a little better, individual rooms+shower, music ok..usually pretty masseurs..but all lousy massage, only good at special...

what i been looking out for are places equivalent of well-known spas in town.Very good environment, soothing music..massage is great..no need great muscels la...masseurs looks depends on luck cos can varies..with that kind of mood,couple with decent massage and top off with any special..do welcome that. It gives a much better experience then the normal services offered.

I believe some of the bros do go for relazing in any massage...special are secondary..cos if one really need a fcuk, one surely go to GL..why bother such places...

Not sure any bro here encounter nice experiences in those well know spa shop that offer that little bit extras??or u can only find it overseas?

matsuda
17-12-2005, 10:14 AM
It is such an illusive dream BUT I never stop seeking......in all my years of visiting such joints.

owen10
17-12-2005, 12:57 PM
juz like in relationships, it's not easy to find d PERFECT GAL. dunno y, but most of d time, if she's very chio her massage sucks ... vice versa. d best way to search for such gals will be by word of mouth, preferably fr friends who tried. recomm by bros in d forum is good but very often shortlived. once d gal is known after a posting either she's fully booked or d shop got raid shortly thereafter. haiiiiii ................ :(

bbbjkim
17-12-2005, 01:38 PM
One other thing I realise is that the 'repeat' massage is somehow always not as good as the first one. Say, you went to this place and found someone who gives a damn good massage. Somehow, the next time I go look for her, the massage is always not as good as the 1st time. Why?? I haven't figure it out yet. So its a lot of hits and misses and follow-up on bros tips to find places with good massage.

1 correlation seems to be true though (generally but not always). The nicer they look, their massage skill usually CMI. Kinda remind me 'the dirtier the place, the nice the food' correlation. :D

I have only managed to come across one who looks half-decent and very good skill. Alas lost her contact already. :(

For my case, I did found one decent place and have been there numerous time... everytime she give her best..wonderful massage but she is not a looker, maybe 6.5/10 and strictly no other services...... honestly I prefre to keep her to my self maybe if she is too busy, stardard will drop... heheh......anyway, just kidding , any brother want to have good massage , pm me..

beck8
17-12-2005, 04:34 PM
dunno y, but most of d time, if she's very chio her massage sucks ... vice versa. once d gal is known after a posting either she's fully booked or d shop got raid shortly thereafter. haiiiiii ................ :(
absolutely AGREE! good massage + good look(boob) is very difficult. in fact good sex might be not too difficult because that really depends.

Was at HuaXianZi in Chinatown, once svced by a gal, with excellent massage unfortunately short and not good look, next time, she was not ard, sved by another lousy lady, made dd erected and then straight inserting it, I said stop, I am looking for a good massage.

bennzi
19-12-2005, 11:35 PM
All bros who had responsed to my postings.

Thank you, you all.....guess we are are seaons players in this cheonging field.
Would anyone like to share any experience/interesting encounters with local/oversaes famous spas house??

You know la...those reputable ones...you think they are pretty decent from the outside..but..once a while, you get surprises from those masseurs..Or anyone think its impossible cos they dont wana risk their licenses/jobs...

For my case...visited a handful...all seems decent..no hanky panky..but would like to explore such places if its sighted that allows such actions..

darkbat
20-12-2005, 06:55 PM
therefore, gotta spend time looking ard,reading FR...but at times, whats mentioned in the forum is not 100% accurate..or the gals are too hard to book due to their popularity..



Bro, that's usually becos you need to understand what you are getting yourself into. When my frens ask me whether I got any good place to recommend, I always ask them for their requirement.

Some like SYT to press them. Never mind about the massage. Can BJ/FJ can already. Some prefer the Lau Chio. Skill optional but must allow AR. Some only care about the massage. Young or old also nevermind. The permutations goes on and on. You know what I mean rt??

So far, I have to say the FRs posted by the bros here are certainly helpful in narrowing down the place and/or the gers. I myself have discovered a few gems on the recommendation of the bros here.

Never doubted the 'hard' search to look for one...what is ideally to me is the whole experience...other then specifically lookg for fj..i go into any TN/HC with the main purpose of relaxation...and if that place offers special..kinder plus factor to me. But atlas, never had such luck.

:cool: Bros, our objectives seems very similar.

what i been looking out for are places equivalent of well-known spas in town.Very good environment, soothing music..massage is great..no need great muscels la...masseurs looks depends on luck cos can varies..with that kind of mood,couple with decent massage and top off with any special..do welcome that. It gives a much better experience then the normal services offered.

The closest place I come across that meets most of your requirement is Santuary Siam. 30B Circular Rd. Tel:65366543. Ask for Amy and Cherry. Dun expect SYT there. Both Amy and Cherry are probably into their 30's but massage is very good. I think they have younger gers there but never tried so will not comment. Do a search in the JG thread. I posted some FRs in there.

Would anyone like to share any experience/interesting encounters with local/oversaes famous spas house??

You know la...those reputable ones...you think they are pretty decent from the outside..but..once a while, you get surprises from those masseurs..Or anyone think its impossible cos they dont wana risk their licenses/jobs...

The #1 reason why I won't go to those place is not becos I'm cheapo but most of the place requires you to put on a massage short which I find to be a turn-off.

bennzi
25-12-2005, 02:18 AM
Bro,

Mind checking with you on siam sanctuary since we shared the same views??? for amy and cherry, other then solid massages offered by them, what other specials they provided?? or only HJ/JG??? care to share your experiences with them?? is siam sanctuary provides such nice environment for massage as compare to the usual HC?? i mean individual rooms..soothing music...no 'extra'sounds from outside....a place where i can really relax, and wats the damage like???

Mentioned that u dont like to put on shorts..but some TN offered shorts too..but for me i usually wear my own boxer for hygiene :) Have you tried those well known spa houses b4?? which offered specials??? even if they offer shorts, i believe you can choose not to wear them..

Do u pro FL or WL??

darkbat
26-12-2005, 04:35 PM
Bro,

Mind checking with you on siam sanctuary since we shared the same views??? for amy and cherry, other then solid massages offered by them, what other specials they provided?? or only HJ/JG??? care to share your experiences with them?? is siam sanctuary provides such nice environment for massage as compare to the usual HC?? i mean individual rooms..soothing music...no 'extra'sounds from outside....a place where i can really relax, and wats the damage like???



Bro, my FRs on both Amy and Cherry are over in the JG thread so won't repeat them here:

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=924972&postcount=213

http://forum.sammyboy.com/showpost.php?p=968965&postcount=282

I will not compare Siam to the usual HC cos Siam got no facilities at all. But its definitely a relaxing place to go to. Very nice environment. Definitely better than the usual TN.


Mentioned that u dont like to put on shorts..but some TN offered shorts too..but for me i usually wear my own boxer for hygiene :) Have you tried those well known spa houses b4?? which offered specials??? even if they offer shorts, i believe you can choose not to wear them..

Do u pro FL or WL??

A lot of the decent TN shops are very strict on the 'shorts' rule. I asked a few and they usually insist I wear the shorts. So sometimes I just say 'thanks' and walked out. :) Never tried any of those spa houses but I would be very surprised if they allowed you to go naked or provide specials. No FL or WL experience yet.

AAconnection
26-12-2005, 04:58 PM
Money is the way to find good masssage, good look & good sex.

thick
26-12-2005, 08:54 PM
Hi bros,

good massage more or less can find pockets of good ones, good sex is about chemistry .... what is good sex for me may not be good sex for you and vice versa.

i wen to try out some gals based on brudders FR, and it did not trun out as expected and like smaster owen10 says, no perfect one ... it is all up to your mood and expectations.

sometime back, i had this gal and enjoyed a lot the package provided, next visit, dun feel the same liao - might be expectations too high and always expect more ....

more often than not, I go for good massage and as long as HJ is average with AR, or FJ with a totally naked body in TN, I should be quite happy ... all the moaning is more often than not a fake to let u cum faster ... :D

just my humble opinion ....

bennzi
27-12-2005, 02:15 AM
Hi bro darkbat,

Thks for the links to ur previous FRs..read them throroughly..can i conclude that so far siam sanctuary offered JG only?and no other specials?? if thats the case, that special service is still missing... For JG, i visit estee fro dorris hc. A lau chio but with surperd massage skill... wats missing is the aftermath..max is hj and no other services. Find it still lacked the perfect massage services offered. :)

Yup..same here n yet..been to some decent well knw spa houses..some can go naked...the only missing key is the services after massage..so far none offer specials..no sure any bro here had interesting encounters?

Bro AA...

We all knows money make the world go square...those ppl in this line are for the money..but i choose to spend my money wisely then spoiling the market.Maybe you got lobang for the perfect services with money..can intro??let see if they are genuine good service=high money


Bro Thick,

Agreed fully on ur line of thoughts on good sex ;)

Any good intro to those TN u mentioned with that satisfaction level of services??

owen10
27-12-2005, 03:16 AM
Hi bros,

good massage more or less can find pockets of good ones, good sex is about chemistry .... what is good sex for me may not be good sex for you and vice versa.

i wen to try out some gals based on brudders FR, and it did not trun out as expected and like smaster owen10 says, no perfect one ... it is all up to your mood and expectations.

sometime back, i had this gal and enjoyed a lot the package provided, next visit, dun feel the same liao - might be expectations too high and always expect more ....

more often than not, I go for good massage and as long as HJ is average with AR, or FJ with a totally naked body in TN, I should be quite happy ... all the moaning is more often than not a fake to let u cum faster ... :D

just my humble opinion ....

thks for d compliments bro. :) so how have u been? been a while since i read yr posts. still into d TN scene?

d era has changed. as society becomes more affluent, PRC gals tis days have higher expectations. d new generation of gals who have landed here in recent yrs have oredi programmed their mindset of what kind of fees to dig fr their s'pore roberts - either thru word of mouth fr their friends here or their agents. before they started their jobs they would probably have done enuff research on d 'market rates' to charge n d expectations fr s'poreans. of cos it's up to them to follow d rates or lose their customers.

yes, if u want gd svc yet cheap prices u can still compromise with d comparatively older n less attractive PDMMs (which there r still a handful around). but frankly, thru reading tis forum tis days how many bros still go for PDMMs??? most would prefer to go for d younger ones - not many would want to eat ikan bilis if they can afford garoupa!

thick
27-12-2005, 08:15 PM
[QUOTE=owen10]thks for d compliments bro. :) so how have u been? been a while since i read yr posts. still into d TN scene?

of late back to TN but most of the time either Yishun or JW ... had been getting FOC stuffs after befriending a PDMM for about 6 months, but as usual, craving for fresh meat once in a while ....

like you say, old PDMM no kick liao ... go for younger ones and in actual fact the more you bargain with them, the more their service for you the second time round not good cos they remember good customers ... and after a while they also feel bad to collect money from you and end up your "friend" .... like I always get them to be mine ... if you know what i mean ....

the trick for tem to bite the bait ... its all about being a gentlemen and being gentle to them ....:D

bennzi
28-12-2005, 12:29 PM
Hi bro Thick..

Your style of having FOC bonk..really takes time and money..but i guess its worth the effort. :) For ppl like us...bz plus CO always by urside...very difficult to let go let alone befriending PDMM...

owen10
28-12-2005, 01:39 PM
Hi bro Thick..

Your style of having FOC bonk..really takes time and money..but i guess its worth the effort. :) For ppl like us...bz plus CO always by urside...very difficult to let go let alone befriending PDMM...

bro thick's strategy is gd economically in d long run but i guess u need to invest a lot of $$$, love n attention to d PRC before she gains yr trust.

but such r-ships hor ... if she really falls for u, n several mths later u tell her u wanna break off u may find yrslf in hot soup as they can be emotionally loyal lovers. :(

thick
28-12-2005, 02:37 PM
Hi bro Thick..

Your style of having FOC bonk..really takes time and money..but i guess its worth the effort. :) For ppl like us...bz plus CO always by urside...very difficult to let go let alone befriending PDMM...

i also got CO lei .... time stealing takes skill ... u know ... not so much the amount of time spent, more so the quality of time spent ... quality does not mean see each time means FJ ... it could be a meal 2gether, kopi or just getting them an occasional flower or two.

give them TLC but them tell all no string attach one ... usually I get away quite scot free cos it is mutual b4 we even start ....

the key is not to see them each time and think of FJ ... they will not like that ... just respect and care, they will automatically wan to "reward" you with FJ .... sometimes tactically, I even say "NO" to them ... but end up later go another TN to get the shot out !!!

newby010
29-12-2005, 09:53 AM
bros,

is it common in health centres in PRC to have 1hour of massage followed by 30mins of body massage + HJ?

sorry, i'm not frequent chiongster up in PRC (or singapore, for that matter). but have experienced such treatment in chengdu some 2-3years back. my client brought me there.

didnt give it much thought until i read this thread and bro bennzi's criteria..
except for the 4-5star spa setting, IMHO, it did meet all the other criterias - good looking masseur, good massage (1hour), then specials (BM + HJ).

for all i know, this IS common SOP in PRC, so bros pls dont flame me for my ignorance, appreciate yr understand.

cheers,
NB

bennzi
01-01-2006, 10:08 AM
bro thick..readlly got to hand it to u..how u manage to elude ur CO everytime for that extra rendazous???hahha

Bro Newboy,

Seems like you got many experiences overseas other then in sg....guess u aint local right??

U not a cheongster at all?? or just someone who go for relaxing massages all the time??? Me too...prefer a good massage/spa treatment everytime..but occasiionally go for that extra if feel horny after the massages...


In sg, those known spa houses...dare to say none provide such services liao..sad... only can opt for HC/TN. but we all still continue searching till we found one..in the meantime....any bro got some leads..dont mind we all share share.... thks

thick
04-01-2006, 03:56 PM
[QUOTE=bennzi]bro thick..readlly got to hand it to u..how u manage to elude ur CO everytime for that extra rendazous???hahha


elude ? no need la ...

actually if you get a understanding and not sticky one, very easy to work. most important must understand your situation. I usually dun lie to the China gal in the things I do, as such you build a certain element of trust. Once you play her, dun play another one ....

once in a while, look for fresh meat, but dun get hooked .... find new target only the current one is cleanly broken off.

cheers :p

surfer888
04-01-2006, 05:10 PM
bros,

is it common in health centres in PRC to have 1hour of massage followed by 30mins of body massage + HJ?

sorry, i'm not frequent chiongster up in PRC (or singapore, for that matter). but have experienced such treatment in chengdu some 2-3years back. my client brought me there.

didnt give it much thought until i read this thread and bro bennzi's criteria..
except for the 4-5star spa setting, IMHO, it did meet all the other criterias - good looking masseur, good massage (1hour), then specials (BM + HJ).

for all i know, this IS common SOP in PRC, so bros pls dont flame me for my ignorance, appreciate yr understand.

cheers,
NB

Yes, it is very common in China. I've had the best massage+BM+HJ in China. The type that I think Bro Bennzi is looking for.

Just like him, I'm abit tired of the chiong scene and would now place a good massage above everything else. Specials if offered are a bonus.

Unfortunately, I have yet to find anywhere in SG that offers what the PRC offers in that combination. Fortunately, I travel to PRC often for business.

surfer888
04-01-2006, 05:20 PM
bro thick..readlly got to hand it to u..how u manage to elude ur CO everytime for that extra rendazous???hahha

Bro Newboy,

Seems like you got many experiences overseas other then in sg....guess u aint local right??

U not a cheongster at all?? or just someone who go for relaxing massages all the time??? Me too...prefer a good massage/spa treatment everytime..but occasiionally go for that extra if feel horny after the massages...


In sg, those known spa houses...dare to say none provide such services liao..sad... only can opt for HC/TN. but we all still continue searching till we found one..in the meantime....any bro got some leads..dont mind we all share share.... thks

Bro Bennzi,

I've been on the search for what you have described for quite a while already. While I found many in PRC, a few in OZ, some in Thailand, etc. I have yet to have much luck in Singapore.

I'm almost resigned to the fact that Good Massages don't come with Good Specials. Have instead focussed on getting good massages in Spas and TNs instead. Once in a while, specials are offered and occasionally, okay standards. But they are a minority and usually Fly-By-Night girls and almost impossible to contact for long term.

If you find yourself in Shanghai, let me know and I'll drop a couple of tips to you. Had the best massages there, the best BMs, the best HJs in the Spas. To top it off, have managed to date a number of the girls for FOC GF sex.

bennzi
05-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Bro Thick...

Admire ur guts la...for me even tho CO lax a bit..i still prfer not to take any risks....in case too hot to handle....

so far..how many prc you befriended liao?? can share share your experiences??

cheers

bennzi
05-01-2006, 07:48 PM
Bro surfer..

You cheong in sg alot??? any good spa houses/TN places to recomend?? i know u also got problem finding the perfect ones..not sure any one in sg you experience got close to my ideal set???

You have quite a handful of experienecs in oz and sawadee?? can share?? ur ozzies seems interesting..can elaborate further??

Since you mentioned shanghai..i bet you only have the contacts in shghai? personally never been to china, maybe 1 day i will....are you able to share your special time over there....very curious how you got the FOC GF sex...u befreind then in the massage place or in pubs???

newby010
06-01-2006, 01:40 PM
bro bennzi,

yea, i aint local but thats not why i seem to have more exp overseas, its more that i dread bumping into people i know, be it colleagues or friends or relatives or business associates.

not much of a cheongster and i love to go for massages / scrubs / treaments to soothe those achy bones esp shoulders and back, and tired mind, to destress, but only those clean spa environment type.

bro surfer88,

ya man, i agree, those in china are good. v relaxing environment plus serviced by pretty plus young gals who can also massage quite well. miss it! i dont go to china all that often.

cheers,
NB

bennzi
07-01-2006, 03:11 PM
bro newboy10,

Hey..we share the same thoughts on this...dread bumping into ppl we know...most of the time, i m very discreet when i visit any local HC/TN. If the places is too 'exposed' i will give it a miss...even tho u heard many FRs about how good the gals service you..

massages / scrubs / treaments to soothe those achy bones esp shoulders and back, and tired mind, to destress, but only those clean spa environment type

same feeling.....i also look for those...particular in sg....hey me going over to KL next weekends...any gd recomendations??? sad is goin with my tigress..hehe ..looking for those decent spa houses...can do couple massage but sparate the man and lady.In that case..i can enjoy some specials legitimatly...keke:)

Not sure if you have any such places you visited before?? my hotels ard KLCC...thks in advance bro...

newby010
07-01-2006, 08:36 PM
sorry bro bennzi, not very familiar with the KL scene.

there r a lot of HC with specials there, be sure u dont bring yr lady to those! haha...

also, u sure yr lady will allow separate rooms? i know MY tigress will whoop my ass for even suggesting it!

heard from my fren over there that this new place called 'putrajaya' spa is supposedly v nice... ask around. i'll try to ask around for u, will PM if i find anything.

cheers,
NB

bennzi
08-01-2006, 01:01 PM
Hi bro NB,

I know where not to bring and where i can bring la...thats why only target spa like environment, looks clean on the outside at least...my tigress ok with separate rooms la...been to feel spa overseas that had such practice, lucky she is ok with it..hehe.

Was at BKK, separate room...got away with a HJ..thats the further i can go...havent got chance to chance upon FJ.

Hmm..putrajaya spa??? dont tell me its in putrajaya..quite far fro KLCC leh...anyway, if you have any happening spa places, do PM in advance..would like to experiences them.

Trying to locate any such environment in the forum...but a lot are not suitable to bring your partner along..u know what i meant la....bros here..any recomendations in KL????

Thks in advance!

surfer888
11-01-2006, 04:49 PM
Not sure about clean Places in KL where you can go with your GF. Try the Spa at the Hilton KL near Megamall. Looks nice but I have not tried. I love the Clark Hatch Spa in PJ Hilton even though no specials offered.

The MP at Federal KL used to be good... but don't bring your GF. It's the same as most Spas in KL.... whorehouses.

I guess in KL it is harder to find a good and decent Spa. Most of them are out and out whorehouses.

thick
11-01-2006, 05:54 PM
Bro Thick...

Admire ur guts la...for me even tho CO lax a bit..i still prfer not to take any risks....in case too hot to handle....

so far..how many prc you befriended liao?? can share share your experiences??

cheers

Befriend ? plenty lah ... I tend to be able to bring them out for coffee or a meal, w/o any sessions ... really befriend to check them out on suitability ... before we end up with FOC sex. or else, if really wan to bonk them, pay them so no strings attached.

if they are working and you happen to call them, dun hound them as though they are not supposed to HJ for other customers becos she is "yours" already ... keep an open mind ... tell her that you trust that at most is HJ for them, and as usual, guys will AR her ... so dun get jealous.

I am on my 4th PDMM and all my other 3 have left me mutually. No hurts and no bad blood among us. Be truthful ... the 2nd PDMM knows I got one b4 her, the current one knows she is number 4, but will need to assure that you are no longer seeing them.

The 3 PDMMs still call and keep in contact with me .... occasionally when their men is not around or not available, I still get the occasional FOC bonk with them, except this time round, we end up for a meal and talk about good times we had 2gether.:D

surfer888
12-01-2006, 11:17 AM
Agree with Bro Thick. PRCs are extremely easy to befriend... especially if you are a bilingual (Mandarin/English) Overseas Chinese. It's similar to the Pinkerton Sydrome (Love of White Men) that our own SPGs go for. They feel higher class when going out with a overseas Chinese... also because we have higher spending power.

Go to any decent Hairdresser, Tuina, Foot Reflexology Joint in PRC or anywhere which gives you a good opportunity to communicate leisurely and have small talk with the girl. After a good chat 1-2 visits, date her out for a meal or ask her to bring you around. After that the rest is up to you.

Remember to treat her with respect like you would a GF and I'm sure the rest will work out fine.

Don't be stingy, don't be extravagant, be the same person that you would be when going after any girl, Singaporean, Chinese, Malaysian, etc. Sure to get the girl... just that more opportunities and more receptive in PRC.

Just be careful not to fall in love with the wrong types.

surfer888
12-01-2006, 11:58 AM
A good place to try a good massage and sleazy fun is the TN joint in Jln Klapa. Really good looking and slutty PRCs. Went there a while back but cannot remember the damage.... should be usual market rate.

Its quite difficult to locate... near the Letraset shop and walk up the stairs.

kwaychup
12-01-2006, 06:47 PM
the place i usually go for a good relaxing massage is at jln besar but no special thou, but their skills are very good can take the suanness from your joints, their facilities are top notch and their food is good too. nice place to relax whole day if u got nothing to do.

for a place for a good massage + special,
hardly can find such ger unless u go try every ger at a joint or thru friends recommendation.

latebloomer
13-01-2006, 12:36 AM
hi bro kwaychup
Do u mind sharing the place u go to at Jln Besar for gd msg?
My office is along jln besar n would appreciate a gd msg now & then.

Many new jts are popping up in that area. Mainly along Kitchener Rd & Maude Rd. But also along the main road itself. One opp the berseh food centre, another opp Sim Lim Tower.

Fortunately or not, most jts nowadays provide only so so msg but almost always push their specials, which is not always welcome to me.

kwaychup
13-01-2006, 03:07 AM
hi bro kwaychup
Do u mind sharing the place u go to at Jln Besar for gd msg?
My office is along jln besar n would appreciate a gd msg now & then.

Many new jts are popping up in that area. Mainly along Kitchener Rd & Maude Rd. But also along the main road itself. One opp the berseh food centre, another opp Sim Lim Tower.

Fortunately or not, most jts nowadays provide only so so msg but almost always push their specials, which is not always welcome to me.

it's goldfinger spa opp the new world ktv. on the 3rd floor, 2nd floor is ktv. take the lift up.
all their massuers are thais n have undergo training b4 1.
but NO SPECIAL hor..
my friend usually go for his fav massuer but i go for anyone cos they are all good in thai massage imho. but if u cannot tahan better not sia, i got 1-2 friends who can't relax n tahan the pain they came out more sore.

facilities include 2 hot pools, 1 normal water pool, steam rm, sauna and a chill room about 10degrees 1. threatre etc also have...
good attentive attendents as well.
my homeground when i'm really tired n want to relax :D

surfer888
13-01-2006, 11:09 AM
I used to go to Hotspa in Roxy Center.

Similar concept to Goldfinger.... no specials as well.

What I like is that there is an open air balcony for smokers like me. And also, strictly no smoking inside. We smokers do not like the air to be constantly smoke-filled as well.

Good food as well. The best part is that it is not self service. The attendant takes the order from you and brings the food to you. Go in a group of about 5 ppl and they let you have a private dining room.

kwaychup
13-01-2006, 04:56 PM
such places are good when u r just tired n not horny :p

dragula
13-01-2006, 06:04 PM
Any of you guys been to star spring TN at Tembeling Rd? Its at Joo Chiat area
It is located opp a bus stop and an open air carpark.
So far i've been there 4 times and it has been good.No complains so far.
Good massage (Mo Sha) which leads to teasing of your balls and dick.
It seems like a standard procedure as i always try diff girls there and they
tease you like mad b4 popping the qns. I dun go for FJ, normally HJ or BJ, which they do not rush to make you cum. Slow stroking and blowing.

Any bros share similar experience there?

kwaychup
14-01-2006, 12:25 AM
what's the damage like?

rabitsu
14-01-2006, 02:36 PM
it's goldfinger spa opp the new world ktv. on the 3rd floor, 2nd floor is ktv. take the lift up.
all their massuers are thais n have undergo training b4 1.
but NO SPECIAL hor..
my friend usually go for his fav massuer but i go for anyone cos they are all good in thai massage imho. but if u cannot tahan better not sia, i got 1-2 friends who can't relax n tahan the pain they came out more sore.

facilities include 2 hot pools, 1 normal water pool, steam rm, sauna and a chill room about 10degrees 1. threatre etc also have...
good attentive attendents as well.
my homeground when i'm really tired n want to relax :D
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GoldFinger....got HJ ...do so many times already.

yytcir
16-01-2006, 09:59 AM
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GoldFinger....got HJ ...do so many times already.

rabitsu bro,

Who are the ladies providing HJ in Goldfinger? I have been there quite a few times and so far only know there's one lady offering HJ. Appreciate if you can PM me the names?

bennzi
18-01-2006, 12:48 AM
Bro surfer,

Just back fro KL....really hard to find a nice decent place...stay along jalan ampang...nothing caught my eyes..sigh..went over to Bukit bintang....too many whore hse like elephant..HC in federal....

Those atas spa hse charge so high!!..in the end, never get to try any one...

bennzi
18-01-2006, 12:57 AM
Bro thick..

Like that, u not playing with fire?????

All ur gf are PDMM???? guess they all very lonely..really need a man like u in sg to keep them bz..hehhehe

Is it u befren them all in TNs??? can intro some of these TN for me to try??maybe can share with me their speciality..

bennzi
18-01-2006, 01:03 AM
Bro Surfer...

U seems expert in befrening all those PRC??? have you tried and suceeded so far??? which method owrks the best?? hook the gal after 1 try??? all they all see if u got money??? cos money makes the world go ez..hahha

Knew of jala kalap...passby....there location for me quite bad...cos frens working ard that area..dont wana get spotted...i personally prefer TN that is away from main traffic...semi hidden...not many ppl ard...worst is near coffeeshop..sure got many uncle see one.. ANy gd recomendation on such TN??

bennzi
18-01-2006, 01:10 AM
Bro Kwaychup,

Kinder agreed with u....its either good massage but losuy or no spcial..or lousy massage with good special....which is why i started this thread...wana share with bros here that...i m still searching for that utimate massage shop in sg...

Bro surfer....hotspa??? another decent place???? only to detress???

At the end of the day.....good massage is still ur top priority in determining whether or not to RTF??

for me..i just hate f*** shop...cos might as well go GL...more value for money..

kwaychup
18-01-2006, 02:19 AM
well up to individual bah,
i can't really go GL n bonk 1, need some GFE feeling but think 20mins not enough for me + thai gers not really my piece of cake too.
for GFE feeling i usually go sasha, decent facilities not too shabby imho.

surfer888
19-01-2006, 10:12 AM
Bro Bennzi,

PRC chicks are the same with all chicks... just find some opportunity to have a leisurely chat. Just that we have the advantage in able to act blur and ask them to bring us around. Also, have the advantage of a foreign appeal, better spending power, more class over the average PRC male.

Its easy... just go to any restaurant, strike up a conversation with the waitress and so on. Easier still is foot reflexology or hairdresser... they won't think you're Buaya.... how to sit there for 30 mins plus without talking. Ask about where to shop, what to buy, what's good to eat.... then say you don't know how to go and ask them to accompany you there. Treat it like a normal date.

One word of advice though.... lots of decent PRC girls are very bad and unskilled in bed. Also, they don't shave. Good part is that they don't value sex or virginity that much.:D

surfer888
19-01-2006, 10:17 AM
Hotspa is only a place to destress. No hanky panky.... at least not yet so far. However, I like the place but they keep raising the prices. The last time I went cost me more than $70 for an oil massage + use of facilities + free flow of food & drinks.

Another good one that go to to destress is St Gregory's at Plaza Parkroyal. Great ambience, good massages, no hanky panky. Don't do this too often as its quite expensive at about $150+ per session. Try the couple suite... about $300+ for massage for two in a private room with a jacuzzi. Went there with a Jap I met and ended up having quicky in the jacuzzi. Really romantic place.

thaivisitor
19-01-2006, 10:56 AM
Bro Bennzi,

PRC chicks are the same with all chicks...
One word of advice though.... lots of decent PRC girls are very bad and unskilled in bed. Also, they don't shave. Good part is that they don't value sex or virginity that much.
You mean armpit or pubic hair???:eek:

Cheers
Tee Vee

surfer888
19-01-2006, 11:29 AM
Unfortunately armpit hair.

I don't mind them not shaving pubic hair but the armpit hair can sometimes be a turnoff. Have even met some pretty top mgmt women in PRC but when they lift up their arms... woahh!.... good thing so far is that have not come across anyone that stinks yet.

Etiquette and styling still have got some way to go in PRC for the vast majority. Those that are well groomed are usually Models, Escorts, High Class Pros, Socialites, etc.

imaginative
19-01-2006, 12:25 PM
Totally agreed. Once I went to TN shop (forgot which one) but forgot to draw money. So asked the TN gal (PRC) to show me the direction of the nearest ATM. When she lifted her arm to point at the direction, the thick armpit hair just turned me off. I said ok, went down the stairs and never went back.

Another experience is I asked a PRC TN girl why she didn't shave armpit, and she asked "Shave for what?" ... My god.

surfer888
19-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Just got an idea... maybe we should start shaving for them. Could be fun... maybe start a new trend with a group of cheongsters going to TN joints with shavers and foam.

bennzi
19-01-2006, 08:13 PM
bro kwaychup,

I also agreed with u...even do FJ..need to have that gf feeling..if not...boring and turn off..still that type of gal also hard to comeby...

u mean sasha gal all give u that GF feelings???

bennzi
19-01-2006, 08:17 PM
bro surferboy....

U seems old bird in PRC?? all those tips u give, i believe came with ur extensive experiences in china..kekek

Will take note of that if i ever set foot on china...

Hotspa??where is that?? St Greg spa..i know where....thats the prob..been to a few of these well-know spa...no doubt provide good service...but just missed that freedom to have that 'special service'..u know la....sometimes a little flexibility helps a long way....

surfer888
20-01-2006, 06:16 PM
Not very old bird in PRC... just that I used to be stationed in Guangzhou and Shanghai. Many more SB Bros are much more experienced.

Hope to chalk up more experience soon as I will be heading to Shenzhen after CNY for a few short trips.

surfer888
20-01-2006, 06:17 PM
Forgot to add... Hotspa is in Roxy Center/Square. Next to the Mercure Hotel.

kwaychup
21-01-2006, 03:16 AM
u mean sasha gal all give u that GF feelings???

no lah, i always go for grace nia...today just went to find her again...
tcss with her for a while, where she was working before how she came into this line etc. but such things i won't say here 1..she's quite attentive to my needs n her masasge skills quite okie, not really playing the piano either

my friend had another ger called agnes, he also told me she's very friendly too will RTF for her next month :D

too bad i only aim grace, maybe other bros will have luck with gems of their own...

my 2 cents and this is not a post to promote her too, it's just my own feelings when i go there..

kwaychup
21-01-2006, 03:18 AM
Hotspa is in Roxy Center/Square. Next to the Mercure Hotel.

surfer888 bro care to list out the damages for the massage at HOtspa?
eg. 45 60 90 minutes charge?

imho goldfinger is not that cheap either, it's close to a $1 per minute thing.
90 minutes is about $70+

bennzi
22-01-2006, 01:32 AM
bro surfer,

You got biz in PRC??going over there so soon and so often??? hope u can bring back more FRs to share with us here in sg...interesting i hope..kekeke

Been to few TN in sg..most PDMM cant make it..either lousy looks..heheh or old...or very focus on massage..never talk...disappointed a few times liao..sigh....maybe HC better in terms of gals...just that its ex....

I think my conclusions is..wana relaz..go for well known spa places for a total relaxation..if for FJ....any decent HC will do....i guess in future...need to go to these places separately to get those services...yet to find the 2 in 1 place..

bennzi
22-01-2006, 01:34 AM
bro kwaychup.

grace...hmm..u know her long??? she the only gal in HC u see her the most???

GF feelin u mean??kekeke...how old is she??local>?her damages???care to share...any gd TN to recommend on ur side?

kwaychup
22-01-2006, 06:12 AM
not really long, but she's mid 20s....but she petite n young for her age. she gives me GFE feeling but i would say it's whether u can click with the ger u choose...... 1 man's wine could be another man's poison :cool:
u may want to go find the sasha thread for her FRs

i nv go TN places before, only went ming jie earlier this week when my collegue just gian to go....

surfer888
23-01-2006, 11:32 AM
surfer888 bro care to list out the damages for the massage at HOtspa?
eg. 45 60 90 minutes charge?

imho goldfinger is not that cheap either, it's close to a $1 per minute thing.
90 minutes is about $70+


Hotspa is about $70+ for 45 mins oil massage + food + use of facilities. Thai massage is Cheaper... about $55+.

My kakis sometimes don't even go for the massage and just go for the food + facilities for about $35+.

May try Goldfinger soon... any names for juagen?

surfer888
23-01-2006, 11:46 AM
bro surfer,

You got biz in PRC??going over there so soon and so often??? hope u can bring back more FRs to share with us here in sg...interesting i hope..kekeke

Been to few TN in sg..most PDMM cant make it..either lousy looks..heheh or old...or very focus on massage..never talk...disappointed a few times liao..sigh....maybe HC better in terms of gals...just that its ex....

I think my conclusions is..wana relaz..go for well known spa places for a total relaxation..if for FJ....any decent HC will do....i guess in future...need to go to these places separately to get those services...yet to find the 2 in 1 place..

I travel quite frequently for work and have been in PRC mostly in 2203 and 2004. Hardly went there in 2005. Not good at field reports leh but have given some for Nimble Fingers. I like that HC for its ambience.

This trip to SZ may not be so fun afterall... just heard that there were major raids on Massage Parlours & Discos there.

surfer888
23-01-2006, 11:47 AM
FR on Nimble Fingers:

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=26823&page=6

kwaychup
24-01-2006, 12:39 PM
May try Goldfinger soon... any names for juagen?

usually i go goldfinger will 2-3 ppl so i dun go for the JG. just like the hard massage to destress...my friend always find a ger called ah bee 1...he likes her massage for me i go for anyone cos all their skills around there 1


Hotspa kinda ex sia... 45minutes $70+
maybe try it nxt mth with my friend

surfer888
24-01-2006, 06:57 PM
Oil massage is $70+ for 60 mins.... sorry for the wrong info. Thai massage is about $50. If I remember correctly, they also have 30 mins massage sessions at lower rates but I never go for that. How to relax when everything is rush rush.

Tian Xin
25-01-2006, 12:39 AM
If you need a good massage can try BJ massage beside Kallang MRT. If you need good sex as well then this place is a no-no cos its a 100% clean joint

kwaychup
25-01-2006, 12:45 AM
they also have 30 mins massage sessions at lower rates but I never go for that. How to relax when everything is rush rush.

yeah yeah i agree rush = no relax
usually i go spas on offdays, go there early soak,steam n sauna then eat lunch soak n steam again.. song liao go massage den go theatre room zzz
this is life sia :D

surfer888
25-01-2006, 05:46 PM
Must at least spend 4 hours there. Relax in the hot and cold pool. Unfortunately at Hotspa, my kakis and myself always end up eating too much. Keep getting the waiter to make luncheon meat sandwiches. They make them toasted in the sandwich maker fresh when you place your order.

Have not been there in months as I've been out of town for a while.... there may be changes there.... not sure.

bennzi
16-03-2006, 09:22 PM
Guys!!,,its been a while since this thread is active...lets keep it alive again!!...

Any bros got any latest infor/fr to share????