if we get caught by anti-vice, do what?

[putanginamall]

i understand we are not doing anything illegal if we get caught with our pants down. however, i heard from some bros we need to cooperate and give statement at police station. i was wondering do we have the right to refuse statement? cause i don't want family/relatives to know about the incident. or will the officer purposely sabo us by calling our kin.

[Goodboy93]

I am curious too...What happen and what to do..:confused::confused:

[zeusfist]

usually as the "paying customer" you shld be fine. they take your details is just in case they need you to prove that the girl is a hooker(but they seldom or very very rare will call u one, coz if catch on the spot, the girl already gg) No one will know ur details taken down de, and after the girl get deported, case close and the details would be deleted (i think). Unless u were boinking someone less than 18 then u will gena from our MIB.

So if anyone sway enough to tio the MIB, corporate with them. (and i heard, those guys who were brought back usually is becoz some idiots in the area was found with drugs. that one i think must go back test ur pee, make sure u clean then release u)

The above stuff are just what i heard from friend who was ex mib. He now happily residing in some nice ang mo country (lucky dick)

[wolverman]

Rule of thumb - never engage with an underage wl.

[battle66]

If news camera crew on the spot shoot tio face then and come out in news then Siao Liao lor.....

[Greendevil]

since caught lilao, jus tell AV to go out first and finished off the deed LOL

[miumiu6464]

i understand we are not doing anything illegal if we get caught with our pants down. however, i heard from some bros we need to cooperate and give statement at police station. i was wondering do we have the right to refuse statement? cause i don't want family/relatives to know about the incident. or will the officer purposely sabo us by calling our kin.

Just cooperate and give statement. Don't see why they would want to alarm your next of kin if you are cooperative. Also, since you cooperate, they can't hold you in custody and demand bail cos you've not committed any offence.

Remember.. Just cooperate, and don't try to be hero and protect the WL. If WL is not underage, you have nothing to worry about.

[miumiu6464]

since caught lilao, jus tell AV to go out first and finished off the deed LOL

You win liao lor. Up you 1 point for your reply.

[4getful]

Rule of thumb - never engage with an underage wl.

u thought those men know the gal underaged? My opinion is, should charge the gals n okt instead, not the men.it solve no problem by sending those men to jail, but rather it destroy more family n created many social problem. The signal sent out r not correct n for me, it seems like encouraging underage.:rolleyes:

[milkman]

Stop... Drop... Roll...

[Caviar]

Wait for interview.

[Gunas]

They will call your NOK to bail you out. If you are married, the NOK is your wife. Its scary but thats the price you are expected to pay for cheonging. hence Advice is go for proper legal place.

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i understand we are not doing anything illegal if we get caught with our pants down. however, i heard from some bros we need to cooperate and give statement at police station. i was wondering do we have the right to refuse statement? cause i don't want family/relatives to know about the incident. or will the officer purposely sabo us by calling our kin.

[SnowLeopards]

Should you get busted with your pants down, remember this.

Pull up your pants, grab your items, and on the way out, browse through SBF to book another session. :D

Pierre.

[ZacMissile]

Always guys remember to check with the age of the girl if you think she is too young. Also like what the brothers here have already said cooperate with the police in their investigations. Remember you do nothing wrong. If the officer tries to action with you ask for his name and badge number. Report this to your lawyer. Be smart but don't too smart.

[ColdBlood99]

try bribe anti-vice, if they accept your $$$ then you can sue them :cool:

but ofcause both also kana :D

[BTech]

Under sgp laws ,the police can detain u for up to 48hrs even no charges !
So unless u can explain your disappearance from hom n your work . :-)

[unicornboy]

u thought those men know the gal underaged? My opinion is, should charge the gals n okt instead, not the men.it solve no problem by sending those men to jail, but rather it destroy more family n created many social problem. The signal sent out r not correct n for me, it seems like encouraging underage.:rolleyes:

U should also do homework well. Dont totally trust what the okt say. Use ur initiative too. But most time small head rule big head and just trust the okts and wls at face value.

[4getful]

They will call your NOK to bail you out. If you are married, the NOK is your wife. Its scary but thats the price you are expected to pay for cheonging. hence Advice is go for proper legal place.

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Y r u spreading fear? I dun see any good reason they will do that, unless u r caught having sex inside the room. Then u will be charge for indecent exposure. If not, u r juz a customer, nv heard customer got get into trouble b4. What they want is the gals who works illegally. So juz continue drinking your beer, continue your singing n of cos u will save quite an amt of tips if u sat with a few that day.:rolleyes:
Maybe u dun need women, but many men need women to ease their desire. If not, go out touch pork chop or ugly women, will get charge.

[Goodboy93]

They will call your NOK to bail you out. If you are married, the NOK is your wife. Its scary but thats the price you are expected to pay for cheonging. hence Advice is go for proper legal place.

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There is conflicting stuffs.

1)Need NOK to bail you out?

OR

2)Just cooperate and give statement only then can leave?

If its on Option 1 quite scary lol:confused::confused::eek:

[4getful]

Under sgp laws ,the police can detain u for up to 48hrs even no charges !
So unless u can explain your disappearance from hom n your work . :-)

This provided u r a big suspect. Remember we r juz a customer gg to have some fun in a shop that is legally licensed to operate. We r not suspect, unless u r identifief as okt or u try to defend the wl. Once again, AV r men also, they maybe a customer some other days too. If men dun need sex, dun need women, dun have the urge for pretty women, u think he is a man? Some hypocrite might say dunnoe, but they keep making new gf, using love to ease their needs, dun these hypocrite create much more social problem?

[DarkVine]

Some of MIBs can quite action packed
Just cooperate and talk nicely to them like what most bros said.
Again, ask for name and service no if they give attitude, lodge a complaint.

[justdifferent]

actually, there is a really simple answer.

anti-vice isn't there for you. (unless you were banging an underaged hooker)

just to give an off-topic example:

i was driving back home one night while talking on the phone. i happened to have just taken off the earpiece as i couldnt hear clearly and was holding on to the phone with one hand. it just happened that as i turned, a police vehicle was right infront of me. the policemen then signaled me to slow down and stop. there was a lambo parked infront of me and they were settling some matters with the lambo's driver.

my details were taken down and just as the policeman asked his officer what to do with my case, the officer said "never mind lah, just issue him verbal warning". i got off scot free.

if they were to pursue my case, they would have to forward it to the traffic police as the case is out of their jurisdiction and that means more work for them. i was calm, polite and cooperative. if they wanted to fuck me over, they could.

it is the same as being caught by anti vice in the scenario you've mentioned. they are not there to get you. they are there to crack down on illegal prostitutes. therefore, stay calm, polite and cooperative. the stories you've heard of them detaining customers, calling up next of kin etc are most probably some guys who tried to get too smart and give them attitude problem. they are just trying to do their job, so cooperate and move on from there. alternatively - just go for the legal ones if you really want to chiong?

[Jtjan]

Hi guys, dunno if this count as being caught.

A ktv i went to got raided a few years ago.
They locked down the whole place and turn on the lights. My gal was seated on top of me & I was sucking her tits when it happened. The gal immediately jumped off me when the lights turned on. So what happened after that?

I acted quite calm though I still feel a bit kan chiong as first time kenna this kind of thing. So we just waited in the room and the gal got escorted out.

When the police come around, he asked for my IC and proceeded to take down my statements. I basically answered the questions as truthfully as I can.

He asked me what I am doing here, how I know the gal, what I am doing with her, do i know how this place function etc. I just told him I come here sing song, got to know the gal while I was here, not the first time we met, was getting frisky with her, know her name but dunno her so well, kind of know this place must take care of the gal etc.

In short, I cooperated but I didnt give the distinct information that this gal is a prostitute. I dun wanna get the gal into trouble but I was not denying she may be out to earn money as well. The police officer didnt threaten to call my next of kin etc but if he does threaten & he want me to be more explicit about the gal, I may have given more details. But I do know my rights, even if they need a bailor, I can ask anyone or my lawyer. I dont think they can specify who comes to bail you. I am UNSURE abt this point though. (Any bros know?)

But at that time, I wasnt married, so I was not so scared. Now with the financial ruins at stake in a divorce for a Sgp man, I may be more worried.

But i did speak to a casual fren who was in the police force, he said that even if the gal is sucking your cock when the police barge in, they will still not take any action against the guy.

Btw prostitution is not illegal in Sgp, soliciting is illegal though. And of cos if u r on social visit pass, u are not supposed to work etc.

Anyway on that same nite of the ktv raid, the police let us go off earlier than the other rooms once he had taken our statements. But there was an Ah Beng who looks like he got nothing to lose kind, was quite guai lan and challenge the police saying the gal is his gal fren and he come here to drink... cannot is it???

He was loud and cocky, willing to stick his neck out to protect the gal. Heard he gotta follow the police back to the station to take further statements and he bail the gal out. So guess besides a lot of inconvenience, nothing happened to him too.

In fact, the gal will be so grateful she wasnt deported that she will fuck him for free! ;)

My gal was strangely not deported too becoz I saw her again at another location. But I didnt really speak to her and have lost contact since.

Guess we gotta know our rights and be cool about it. Cooperate if you can and you shd be fine. Bang safe guys!


Just sharing my experiences.

Jay

[joncheong]

i understand we are not doing anything illegal if we get caught with our pants down. however, i heard from some bros we need to cooperate and give statement at police station. i was wondering do we have the right to refuse statement? cause i don't want family/relatives to know about the incident. or will the officer purposely sabo us by calling our kin.

any valid reason to call our kin? i doubt so....bail but bail for what? what offence did we commit?

[putanginamall]

thank you all for the advice, i am so appreciative of you guys help. at least now i know i am safe.

but one last thing ar, when they take down statement, will it be logged down permanently under my name? will it be on my bad profile? any one happen to know what does police deal with tons of statements.

[Goodboy93]

It is a probably Note To File.

From all the bros advice it seems that the best way is to be polite and cooperate. Hopefully that it.

As far as i now alot of company got Code of Conduct be it in the private or public sector whereby once they know= Issue.

Stay safe be safe.
Discreet.

Thanks all Bros.

[TheGreatOne]

This is something worth pondering over as it could happened to any chiongster bros.

Basically it all depend on the situation so I supposed there are some options to adopt:

1. Stay calm and polite and cross fingers that they won't haul your sorry ass back to station and call OC come bail you.

2. Cry like a baby and plead for them to let you off promising you will never step foot in such joints ever.

3. Act siao while they are collecting ICs, you suddenly do a gangnam style routine with music mtv playing in your mind hoping that will stun them and try to get away.

4. Shove 50 bucks and wink while tilting your head towards the nearest exit.

5. Jump through window and pray for the best.

:D

[PrinceCharles]

Just sharing my experiences.


Thanks for sharing bro

[Giansex]

Just corporate with the police,don't act hero to protect your gal and u will be safe.

[4getful]

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?19679-Oral-Sex-In-Singapore-KTV-And-More-Exposed-And-Confirmed&

U guys might be interested to go thru the above mention thread.

[black_ops7]

If news camera crew on the spot shoot tio face then and come out in news then Siao Liao lor.....


Next time safer to bring along a paperbag like those commonly used in HK.... In case mata tell you, "Sorry, we provide transport back to station, but don't provide any paperbag....." :p

[kicnad]

If news camera crew on the spot shoot tio face then and come out in news then Siao Liao lor.....

hahaha i just LOL-ed.

[hunter1222]

Be truthful. Answer all the questions but don't give more info than needed.
Never claim that she is your gf, fb, etc if it is not true. They already know when they raided the place. They will likely just take your details and let you off.

If you lie, they will bring you back to the station for further questioning to "CONFIRM THE DETAILS" and will inform your NOK about you being in the station, your wife preferred, as you give them extra job.

Most likely no charges will be filed against you (Unless they want to charge you with giving false statement), but there will be hell for you to pay at home.

[4getful]

Be truthful. Answer all the questions but don't give more info than needed.
Never claim that she is your gf, fb, etc if it is not true. They already know when they raided the place. They will likely just take your details and let you off.

If you lie, they will bring you back to the station for further questioning to "CONFIRM THE DETAILS" and will inform your NOK about you being in the station, your wife preferred, as you give them extra job.

Most likely no charges will be filed against you (Unless they want to charge you with giving false statement), but there will be hell for you to pay at home.

R u based on your own experience or based on what u think? so based on what i think, if they r gg to charge u, then some1 need to bail u out, need not family members.

So far, i notice there r no based on experience samster telling the whole story. What we read here r, my friends, i think, maybe or even some juz spread fear.

[ahpui123123]

ask them wait outside for a while. Session finish liao then come in catch :D

[pcc_king76]

Was told by another brother , just co-operate.
As for CV lady boys any offence ?

[Ludiz]

Just curious,

I kena liat ah by the hotel management today
They just ask me pack my stuff and go, I paid up the girl (don't want feel guilty) before I left.
I left 10 mins after, the girl kept calling but I didn't answer....

Should I feel bad....?

[sadfa]

Just curious,

I kena liat ah by the hotel management today
They just ask me pack my stuff and go, I paid up the girl (don't want feel guilty) before I left.
I left 10 mins after, the girl kept calling but I didn't answer....
Should I feel bad....?

I mark you fail in simple writing.

You book the room? Or gal book?
If its latter, n they suspect she's pros n you customer, don't need to pay full or even pay rejection fee.

And if gal kicked out, she no mood to call you for fucking.

And why feel bad for paying in full?

[Summerhillt]

Never ever say the girl is your girlfriend!! Cause the AV will think you kan pua hero want to protect her isit and chia you 1x GAOLAT!!.

They just separate you both, ask you what is her real name? Her passport name? Her birthdate? She got how many siblings. You confirm don't know mah.. than will tangkup you back station.. say want to charge you for giving false statement and obstructing what simi justice..

Bros, AV also there to do their job, you co-operate. They are also very reasonable, copy your ic write statement and ciao liao. Kio kway no salah, but if the kway is underaged than you rabak liao..

Please... always make sure the girls above 18 thank you..

[Booker]

I believe there is no standard response to an AV raid, since each bro will / may experience different things during a raid.

Factors like objectives could be different - could be a routine check or specific checks to weed out certain activities or show of force (crimewatch moments or PR media showcase).

Behavior of the officers - new officer more gungho and less likely to take nonsense or experience officers whom can smell smoke bomb thrown by customer, may want less trouble or noob officers whom si mi sai also law by law.

Behavior of the customers - cooperative customers, less work for everyone, win win for all. Rowdy customer, give AV more work, make them du lan less chances of being Mr Nice Guy.

But from all the sharing.. One thing remain constant is to really be calm and coperative. No need to yaya with them. The AV during the time of raid is the biggest fuck, then let it be lor. Machiam in ICT comply because of the uniform and rank.. Out of camp who cares right.

:D

[Kang Gary]

A very good piece of information sharing. Always said the truth.

[Kang Gary]

Visit joints all is not an offend. I thinthink as long as don't gua lan with them should be very safe.

[CumExplorer]

Never ever say the girl is your girlfriend!! Cause the AV will think you kan pua hero want to protect her isit and chia you 1x GAOLAT!!.

They just separate you both, ask you what is her real name? Her passport name? Her birthdate? She got how many siblings. You confirm don't know mah.. than will tangkup you back station.. say want to charge you for giving false statement and obstructing what simi justice..

Bros, AV also there to do their job, you co-operate. They are also very reasonable, copy your ic write statement and ciao liao. Kio kway no salah, but if the kway is underaged than you rabak liao..

Please... always make sure the girls above 18 thank you..

thanks bro for sharing, good info :D

[ahbengseng]

ask AV for permission to call your gf/wife (if any),
tell your gf/wife another lie to cover your first lie (if any) ...

In case, AV bring you back for coffee :D
you might not be contactable for another 48 hrs ?

before anything happens, make SURE FL is not under age :o

[Ludiz]

I mark you fail in simple writing.

You book the room? Or gal book?
If its latter, n they suspect she's pros n you customer, don't need to pay full or even pay rejection fee.

And if gal kicked out, she no mood to call you for fucking.

And why feel bad for paying in full?

Haha feel free to mark me fail xD

Gal book the room, and to the bro that recommend her to book that hotel... lol why on earth did u do that xD.
Anyway I did the first shot already, then the hotel management came knocking, wanted to speak to me, and then already knew what i was doing, cooperated and left asap.
Didn't know what will happen to the girl though...

[OysterLover]

So do we say the full truth and mention the sex deed is a paid exchange if got caught in worst case scenario of cock inside pussy?
Like either in hotel or health center.

Or bullshit and say random encounter and got really turned on?

[sadfa]

Haha feel free to mark me fail xD

Gal book the room, and to the bro that recommend her to book that hotel... lol why on earth did u do that xD.
Anyway I did the first shot already, then the hotel management came knocking, wanted to speak to me, and then already knew what i was doing, cooperated and left asap.
Didn't know what will happen to the girl though...

See. You don't write clearly n hence don't think clearly.

In the first place, they don't have yr details.
Even if they have, nothing they can do to you.

The gal probably called u to finish the deal n not to vouch or lie for her.

Prob nothing will happen to her unless she foreigner n hotel call police. Maybe ban her

[StealthBomber]

Haha feel free to mark me fail xD

Gal book the room, and to the bro that recommend her to book that hotel... lol why on earth did u do that xD.
Anyway I did the first shot already, then the hotel management came knocking, wanted to speak to me, and then already knew what i was doing, cooperated and left asap.
Didn't know what will happen to the girl though...

LOL... Want to book hotel, should get the transit one. Those guys know very well what is going on, and that's the purpose of their hotel. Won't kachiao u mid-f*ck.

[sadfa]

LOL... Want to book hotel, should get the transit one. Those guys know very well what is going on, and that's the purpose of their hotel. Won't kachiao u mid-f*ck.

Actually no.

By right even transit hotels cannot be used as pros den

[StealthBomber]

Actually no.

By right even transit hotels cannot be used as pros den

I know that. In fact, to get approval to operate transit-style, need to justify.

What i am saying is that less likely for the management to disturb the bro halfway through.. hahahha