Hanging Flowers Joints

[notkeentoplay]

Just went to L music bar along g road.. It's not bad.. the girls also ok. Mostly viet and thai with live entertainment.. drinks at 30 per jug of beer and tower at 70 plus.. quite worth it..:D;)

[MoralEpitome]

Which HFJ in Singapore can be consider as First World HFJ ?

share your opinion here :D


Club Giorgio :p:D:rolleyes:

[Big Foot]

I went to Jade Palace the other days. The singers there generally not as tall & pretty as big joints. And hanging $20 can liao. I saw the customers hugging the singers just like KTV and one uncle even put his hand under the skirt of No 66 and touch happily :D

[MoralEpitome]

I went to Jade Palace the other days. The singers there generally not as tall & pretty as big joints. And hanging $20 can liao. I saw the customers hugging the singers just like KTV and one uncle even put his hand under the skirt of No 66 and touch happily :D

Recently, seem like I falling in love more often, last week got to know this girl and fell in love with her for one week but she went back China leow before coming back a few months later, I was so sad but the next day I got to know another girl whom claimed she knew me from my days at monte carlo, so anyway the best way to get over a old girl is to have a new girl so I sat with her, turns out now she is a singer at a new joint at tiong bahru, anyone have any idea where this place is, never hear before one, heard it is a new joint, she asked me out for dinner, what does this means? Wanted to look for her today but she not feeling well and not working, then a old girl whom I knew for 2 years and I always had feelings for but somehow did not up came back, she told me she decided to change her ways and want a more normal life with a bf and get married if possible....hmmm....anyway we happened to be talking about singers and she told me she had a fren at DC, short hair gal, who is a singer and later she also worked at CJ as a singer and she had this guy who hang her $1000 every day when he is not there and $5000 to $20000 when he is there....wow....I wonder who is this guy..

[junkie72]

she told me she had a fren at DC, short hair gal, who is a singer and later she also worked at CJ as a singer

sounds like 金贝贝, she's one hottie

[MoralEpitome]

sounds like 金贝贝, she's one hottie

hmm, no wonder got such strong support, wonder who's the bro with such power

[Big Foot]

Bro ME, I also fall in love with a singer but I knew she had a bf liao. What to do :o

shall I splash $1000 banner to hang her to give chase to get her :confused:

[teebs_darklord]

Bro ME, I also fall in love with a singer but I knew she had a bf liao. What to do :o

shall I splash $1000 banner to hang her to give chase to get her :confused:

If you have deep pockets and money to throw, why not for the fun of it??? :D If you don't then better not...:p

[MoralEpitome]

Bro ME, I also fall in love with a singer but I knew she had a bf liao. What to do :o

shall I splash $1000 banner to hang her to give chase to get her :confused:

You should, and be the one screwing her while the bf continues to support her to lighten your burden of hanging for her, use all your KC techniques....

[Big Foot]

You should, and be the one screwing her while the bf continues to support her to lighten your burden of hanging for her, use all your KC techniques....

At least must hang $1000 banner then can talk a chance to screw her and let her bf continue to feed her.

In the another high end joint, I like one syt Jiangsu singer but I saw she had big supporters hanging $500 during PPC.
Shall I also hang $500 each time I go there to see if I have a chance :confused:

[unclesammi]

Club Giorgio :p:D:rolleyes:

suspicious character spotted:eek:

[unclesammi]

bro otur,
so nowaday,u hide at which joints ???

All long time no see. :p

[unclesammi]

where is the two of u.....

same like u stay at home be good boy.:D

[unclesammi]

Not true sam,i been to 1 at princep st,blood flow quite alot :(

Ermmm, got chance bring u to 6c6c.:D

[lmessie]

Shall I also hang $500 each time I go there to see if I have a chance :confused:
Common problem. No clear answer on this, all depends. But I will say, it should work if you always hang $500 once or twice a week. That is $2000~4000 per month.

And one more thing, $500 is not much to hfj, so you should go Mon, Tue, Fri, or weekends, normally not that crowd these days, so you have more chances.

I do not understand our country men are all so rich, sometimes the flowers are really generous. I can not afford, rather to save money to buy properties/shares for my retirement, or travel at least. See hfj fights, really for fun.

[MoralEpitome]

At least must hang $1000 banner then can talk a chance to screw her and let her bf continue to feed her.

In the another high end joint, I like one syt Jiangsu singer but I saw she had big supporters hanging $500 during PPC.
Shall I also hang $500 each time I go there to see if I have a chance :confused:

Hmm, sometimes like you I also diversify too much, cannot decide which girl to go for, end up waste money and don't get anything. I think we should attack 1 by 1 and maximize the money, if cannot then move on, so hang $1000 for her, get her attention, use your charms to make her love you and she can feed you after that...

[Big Foot]

Hmm, sometimes like you I also diversify too much, cannot decide which girl to go for, end up waste money and don't get anything. I think we should attack 1 by 1 and maximize the money, if cannot then move on, so hang $1000 for her, get her attention, use your charms to make her love you and she can feed you after that...

Hmm ... my plan is a $1500 budget & go there once a week preferably Tuesday or Wednesday night. Each time hang $500 during ppc and for 3 times only to see if I had a chance to up her :confused:

One thing I believe most of these singers had more than one sugar daddy or bf who supported them. At the same time I dun think there will be exclusive to anyone in case the main paymaster kick them away :(

[Buffon Lee]

Anyone try Hong Kong Palace this lowly nightclub ? :)

[MoralEpitome]

Hmm ... my plan is a $1500 budget & go there once a week preferably Tuesday or Wednesday night. Each time hang $500 during ppc and for 3 times only to see if I had a chance to up her :confused:

One thing I believe most of these singers had more than one sugar daddy or bf who supported them. At the same time I dun think there will be exclusive to anyone in case the main paymaster kick them away :(

Usually it's a game of hide and seek, which main paymaster can accept your chick being bang by others when you spend 5 to 10k a month, just ask our Da Ge.

It's not difficult, but you must know how to create the aura that you are rich even if you are not, at least it worked many times for me

[Big Foot]

Usually it's a game of hide and seek, which main paymaster can accept your chick being bang by others when you spend 5 to 10k a month, just ask our Da Ge.

It's not difficult, but you must know how to create the aura that you are rich even if you are not, at least it worked many times for me

Thanks Bro ME, you too taught me a lot :p

From now on whenever I step into HFJ I will behave rich & snobbish :rolleyes: :D

[MoralEpitome]

Thanks Bro ME, you too taught me a lot :p

From now on whenever I step into HFJ I will behave rich & snobbish :rolleyes: :D

I have a fren, everytime withdraw 20 $1000 notes to go hfj....but dun have to act snobbish la....really rich people don't act snobbish one....just create the image...also let us know the progress and FR if you succeed so we can all learn..:p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

If you want to have exclusivity, you can.
Make sure you never leave her alone and never leave your sight.
Make sure you bomb the shit outta her till no one is even stoopid enuff to wanna hang her.
Always make impact felt.
Never bomb her when there's hardly customers around, else who will see n who will know.
Always bomb her till no one will even hang her 可怜 or 同情花
Many can hang, but not many are crazy enuff to engage you if you can hang.
If you plan to visit a joint 2-3 times a week and have a budget of say 1.5-3k a week, you may get the cunt, but chances are not exclusively yours.
You must 卖场 alot for her so many potential candidates will know, this gal is wif someone liao.
Next, go early, time investment is required, watch movements and make her accept u as her man, and even if anyone hangs her, go thank, shake hand n come back.
No need to go back anymore, as long as you're there, 跑台is not allowed.
So if anyone hangs, she say thank you & must come back
PPC, hang generously for her, let those who hung smaller flowers see it.
Immediately after PPC, 卖场
Do this regularly cos she will be seen leaving wif you and when you're not there, she already 卖场, so potential candidates can piece up 1+1
If everytime you wanna 卖场 and she gives a whole lot of stories and excuses, you know this cunt got other roads and she's preventing what i told you to do to her, so as not to kill off the other 财路
Its all about control!
In the end, you'll need money & time!
Example, if a guy u noticed always go hang her say 100 or 200, all you have to do is one time whack one 5k!
He try 500 or 1k, whack a 10k
No one will be dumb enuff to waste this kind of money on a pussy her has not tasted yet.

Now, once the singer is bombed into total submission and everyone even the customers know she's yours, no one will hang her liao.
This is when she knows, she's dead.
Cos if you dun hang, no one else would.
Remember, never trust them as long as they're not in your eyes view.
Together, sometimes even need to call them to hear if their phone rings, cos if put to silent, you can catch liao cos she doesnt want u to hear anyone calling or messaging her.
If can, if u have the bullets, all joints will give u credit.
This will also give u an edge.
Hang and if she make you toolan, withdraw the flowers but pls pay company portion, like that, your money is holding her by the neck to perform and submit totally.
Never ever trust them, cos they get the money from more than 1 source, its you yourself who will wear the green hat and everyone will be laughing behind your back while you think she's your private property!

[Big Foot]

I have a fren, everytime withdraw 20 $1000 notes to go hfj....but dun have to act snobbish la....really rich people don't act snobbish one....just create the image...also let us know the progress and FR if you succeed so we can all learn..:p

Tomorrow early morning I will queue up in POSB counters for pink notes liao :p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Learn to protect yourself, make a reputation for yourself as a high roller in a hfj, then ask for credit.
Cos, if you carry so much notes, then hang, then the singer say thank you and leave wif someone else, you'll be banging you head so hard, she laugh at you, all other people there laugh at you, he BF will thank you and her company will love you deep deep.
Cos you've just been had!
Welcome to the world of HFJ.

[Big Foot]

Bro DO YOU BJ, after reading your teaching. I say a big WOW :D

Excellent piece of experience.. you & Bro ME are truly my master.

I think every dollars & cents will well-spend if I follow all your methods. And I think in past few months I am really stupid and trying learn the games even let the nightclub operators think I am a small timer.

[Big Foot]

Learn to protect yourself, make a reputation for yourself as a high roller in a hfj, then ask for credit.
Cos, if you carry so much notes, then hang, then the singer say thank you and leave wif someone else, you'll be banging you head so hard, she laugh at you, all other people there laugh at you, he BF will thank you and her company will love you deep deep.
Cos you've just been had!
Welcome to the world of HFJ.

Thanks I still have to learn how to ask for credit. The other times I hang $200 on a singer her bf signaled me stupid then he also hang $200.

Now must really learn smart ... must portray as high roller liao :D

[Big Foot]

I am getting pretty excited now after reading Bro DO YOU BJ analysis :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=3948163&postcount=268

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Thanks I still have to learn how to ask for credit. The other times I hang $200 on a singer her bf signaled me stupid then he also hang $200.

Now must really learn smart ... must portray as high roller liao :D

If you hang 100 or 200 and the occasional 500 1k type, you can forget about this credit thingy.
But if you hang several Ks a day, u have the RIGHT to ask for it liao.
You must make them bo pian but to grant you, not u bo pian ask them to give you!

[Big Foot]

http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=3948163&postcount=268

wow I am now going out for a quick supper then proceed to HFJ straight.

I cannot tahan liao....bye good night everyone :D

[Big Foot]

If you hang 100 or 200 and the occasional 500 1k type, you can forget about this credit thingy.
But if you hang several Ks a day, u have the RIGHT to ask for it liao.
You must make them bo pian but to grant you, not u bo pian ask them to give you!

alamak I love you deep deep ... :p

I better go change now ... thanks for your effort bye :D

talk to you guys another days

[showmelove]

any new joints worth patronizing these days?

[fatscrewu]

I went to Jade Palace the other days. The singers there generally not as tall & pretty as big joints. And hanging $20 can liao. I saw the customers hugging the singers just like KTV and one uncle even put his hand under the skirt of No 66 and touch happily :D

Wow, must try this girl next I go there. Last week when I was there I hang $50 to a singer but still got to give her a "massage".

Want action must sit at the back. Got many pillars covering it.

[jacky chan]

If you hang 100 or 200 and the occasional 500 1k type, you can forget about this credit thingy.
But if you hang several Ks a day, u have the RIGHT to ask for it liao.
You must make them bo pian but to grant you, not u bo pian ask them to give you!

Dage very high investment:D. So my small joint is not suitable for u, with the one k , can get liao...but now me retired and stay at home, seldom go liao,,:p

[Buffon Lee]

Wow, must try this girl next I go there. Last week when I was there I hang $50 to a singer but still got to give her a "massage".

Want action must sit at the back. Got many pillars covering it.

In Jade Palace, I sat with No 77 Orange from Shenyang.. she is not bad :) Anyone try Pebbles :confused:

[Loving_Dickhead]

wow I am now going out for a quick supper then proceed to HFJ straight.

I cannot tahan liao....bye good night everyone :D

To add-on to bro DYBJ's views, if one's moolah is limited you can always go with a group of folks with strong reputation. Not be a free-loader of course, but to go with them to build your game and experience but most importantly, reputation.

Nowadays many joint owners are getting smarter and have been refusing credit to many clients. ===> Some joints even ask their singers to underwrite for their clients who hang on credit <=== (The arrow in-segment part is the best if you have a game plan). :D

Also remember, if you have to withdraw flowers for one reason or another, do pay the company's portion. The singer flopped, not the company. You pay the company part, no one can call you "smelly leg". Unless you know the joint itself is dubious and there are plenty around town, you can refuse to pay. For such a trade in the shade, can they sue you? I have seen many oldies just disappear into the night when they are plain unhappy with the joints. Now, this is an obvious hint but use at your discretion.

Without a doubt, HFJs patrons have to learn to be smart. Remember you are the boss of the singers and the boss of the joint - you pay them good money. You pay the gals, the joint owners take a cut of your money. Again, who is the pay master? Who has the right to say pay or not pay? If a joint is shady, just walk away or best report them. AV lately is very on their balls for raids, if you think they do not know the hanky panky inside HFJS, think again.

We are all out to have fun, so lets do it in a proper way - believe in a vice-versa relationship.


If you are not born rich or self-made, you need to have a story-line. It will be very handy.

Cheers,
LDH :D


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[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

..... must portray as high roller liao :D

IMHO, I beg to disagreed. A Jedi master (Bro DYBJ) will lead you to the bright side and a Sith lord will lead you to a dark grave! :p

Quffing oneself up to one's cost or trying to keep up with the joneses is the fastest path to a money grave!

Either you have it or have not, able to afford or unable. Making presence felt does not have to flash stacks of $1000 bills if these bills are not meant to be spent or lost on the road!!!

I have see N.A.T.O member who does that and KPKB after hanging only a pathetic miserable $50 x 2x.
Not willinging to spend the bills, flash dance hao-lian Kum lan arh? Mai lai hai lang la! :p
Comes to show hand, "cluck cluck" like a chicken :D

[Loving_Dickhead]

IMHO, I beg to disagreed. A Jedi master (Bro DYBJ) will lead you to the bright side and a Sith lord will lead you to a dark grave! :p

Quffing oneself up to one's cost or trying to keep up with the joneses is the fastest path to a money grave!

Either you have it or have not, able to afford or unable. Making presence felt does not have to flash stacks of $1000 bills if these bills are not meant to be spent or lost on the road!!!

I have see N.A.T.O member who does that and KPKB after hanging only a pathetic miserable $50 x 2x.
Not willinging to spend the bills, flash dance hao-lian Kum lan arh?
Comes to show hand, "cluck cluck" like a chicken :D:p

This is wise bro - bottom-line, hang within your means.

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[seabeng]

I suffered plenty from these China pussies. I lost my family but I am still onto it. Don't ever think these China singing pussies will be with you for ever and until the end of the world. Very very unlikely but I won't totally say there will be none. Always remember one thing, nothing for free. Like LKY said even the air we breathe is not free. Very true and what more a pussy. The bad part about me is I like to bonk raw but never with a WL or a FL. So far I am ok and still with a clean bill of health. Therefore my target for these singers are always those freshies and after they got their medical check and here I come. If they have a "mountain" at the back I will bypass. No point fighting. Many fishes in the sea. Todate I had hit 6 singers and with the latest, singer manager with nice natural pussy hair and tight hole.

Point to note is, these girls are here for a living. Whatever they may be. A sheep or a tiger you treat them nice and play your part they will return the favour and what you want. Never tell them you are big hanger but go and support them as and when they need you especially when they need to do their show. So far I have never exceed 15k for any of their show with the lowest 6k. For me, one or two cannon a month and occassionally $200 to $300 each time you drop by. Once in a while give them $500 or maybe a 1k as expenses they will stick with you. Dont go for the "ang pai" you cant win the big hangers. In my capacity even now I maybe able to compete with the big hanger but why and for what. What you want is the hole and the "ang pai" singers may not be the best on bed. Those singers I had, had undergone a bbbj course (from me of course) and they are in my opinion one of the best blowers except one that refuse to do it and had been jettison. $ makes the world go round. Because of China pussies, my divorce cost me 1.5mil not including my house paid to my wife. I still fuck them(China pussies) I love to hear them scream and groan on the bed.

Some singers are willing to go on a per month basis. These are the quite torok type though not all. I had one (not in my list of 6) and the service is fucked and screwed up. It cost me 3.5k a month and I screw her less than 3 time and told her she could go.

No matter how much they say they love you, it is all a trade. Must remember this. Dont let your emotion get the better of you. If you do (like my first experience) you will be digging your own grave. I was lucky and got out of it and happily bonking more singers now with added experiences.

I am sure some bros here need not to hang anything more than $500 and could get a bonk. Yes it is possible and why not. But dont expect everywhere you go is like that.

These singers are mercenaries. If they can gun and take you down they will do it.

The bottom line is, getting them is how you play your part with this in mind that nothing is for free. The question is like many bros said how much can you afford and how you stretch your dollars to make them give their best to your uttermost satisfactions. When its time for them to go home, it is adios seniorita........here I come for the next one.

Good luck

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Singers see us as ATMs and we MUST see them as Vending Machines. Like Vending Machines, these singers have monitor sensor in them so they are able to tell when people are approaching them. If your vending machine is in a location where not too many people are going to be at night, then it may be a good spot for investment with an allowable budget. For those vending machines that are lucky enough to be in locations where there is constant action, to most normal customers, they really are not a good investment and the owners of these machines often argue that they charge high fees in order to cover the costs of the electricity that the vending machines uses. You ought to be prepared to offer and have a discussion if you already have the vending machine in place. This way you can find out if it’s worth it for you to invest in them or not. However sometimes we aren’t sure when a vending machine really works. After all, the vending machine is going to kick on when they get about it after few months in operation. We just need to kick the machine if it happens cos snacks are better when it falls. :p :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

This is wise bro - bottom-line, hang within your means.

Bro LDH, Thanks. Happy retirement! ;) :p

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....When its time for them to go home, it is adios seniorita........here I come for the next one.

Add on: keep a QQ and adios bonita muchacha :D........here I come for the next one :p

[Peggie83]

To add-on to bro DYBJ's views, if one's moolah is limited you can always go with a group of folks with strong reputation. Not be a free-loader of course, but to go with them to build your game and experience but most importantly, reputation.

Nowadays many joint owners are getting smarter and have been refusing credit to many clients. ===> Some joints even ask their singers to underwrite for their clients who hang on credit <=== (The arrow in-segment part is the best if you have a game plan). :D

Also remember, if you have to withdraw flowers for one reason or another, do pay the company's portion. The singer flopped, not the company. You pay the company part, no one can call you "smelly leg". Unless you know the joint itself is dubious and there are plenty around town, you can refuse to pay. For such a trade in the shade, can they sue you? I have seen many oldies just disappear into the night when they are plain unhappy with the joints. Now, this is an obvious hint but use at your discretion.

Without a doubt, HFJs patrons have to learn to be smart. Remember you are the boss of the singers and the boss of the joint - you pay them good money. You pay the gals, the joint owners take a cut of your money. Again, who is the pay master? Who has the right to say pay or not pay? If a joint is shady, just walk away or best report them. AV lately is very on their balls for raids, if you think they do not know the hanky panky inside HFJS, think again.

We are all out to have fun, so lets do it in a proper way - believe in a vice-versa relationship.


If you are not born rich or self-made, you need to have a story-line. It will be very handy.

Cheers,
LDH :D


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Well it is good that bro loving share all these with us. One real-life example is a samster here called Dayview2004 aka James Tan. Few years back he too played out a singer in Century 21 as he did not pay both the singer & company portion for the flowers in he hanged on credit. James Tan cheated money from some bros that he requested them to sign credit cards bills on behalf of him. James Tan did not return the money he owed to the bros. Such old monkey is widely considered as a smelly leg :rolleyes:

[Big Foot]

To add-on to bro DYBJ's views, if one's moolah is limited you can always go with a group of folks with strong reputation. Not be a free-loader of course, but to go with them to build your game and experience but most importantly, reputation.

Nowadays many joint owners are getting smarter and have been refusing credit to many clients. ===> Some joints even ask their singers to underwrite for their clients who hang on credit <=== (The arrow in-segment part is the best if you have a game plan).

Also remember, if you have to withdraw flowers for one reason or another, do pay the company's portion. The singer flopped, not the company. You pay the company part, no one can call you "smelly leg". Unless you know the joint itself is dubious and there are plenty around town, you can refuse to pay. For such a trade in the shade, can they sue you? I have seen many oldies just disappear into the night when they are plain unhappy with the joints. Now, this is an obvious hint but use at your discretion.

Without a doubt, HFJs patrons have to learn to be smart. Remember you are the boss of the singers and the boss of the joint - you pay them good money. You pay the gals, the joint owners take a cut of your money. Again, who is the pay master? Who has the right to say pay or not pay? If a joint is shady, just walk away or best report them. AV lately is very on their balls for raids, if you think they do not know the hanky panky inside HFJS, think again.

We are all out to have fun, so lets do it in a proper way - believe in a vice-versa relationship.


If you are not born rich or self-made, you need to have a story-line. It will be very handy.

Cheers,
LDH


Thanks Bro LDH... I have some questions for you:

(1) Some joints even ask their singers to underwrite for their clients who hang on credit <=== (The arrow in-segment part is the best if you have a game plan)
That means the singer will be the guarantor that her client will pay up if not she will to pay the company share on her own or the client has to sign an IOU with his name & nric :confused:

(2) To withdraw flowers we will have to pay the company portion say 30% of the total amount owing to the company right ? If the joint is dubious, we can refuse to pay and these joints cannot sue us too :D

Given the fact the oldies can use this method frequently then singers should also wary that those hang on credit maybe a smelly leg and the singers may not receive her share of 70% (assuming). For newbie like me using cash, will it be a disadvantage :confused:

I think the singers will prefer those hang on cash on delivery basis rather than on credit basis. Now I think that those oldies who hang more than $10000 during showtimes should also on credit basis :D

[Big Foot]

IMHO, I beg to disagreed. A Jedi master (Bro DYBJ) will lead you to the bright side and a Sith lord will lead you to a dark grave! :p

Quffing oneself up to one's cost or trying to keep up with the joneses is the fastest path to a money grave!

Either you have it or have not, able to afford or unable. Making presence felt does not have to flash stacks of $1000 bills if these bills are not meant to be spent or lost on the road!!!

I have see N.A.T.O member who does that and KPKB after hanging only a pathetic miserable $50 x 2x.
Not willinging to spend the bills, flash dance hao-lian Kum lan arh? Mai lai hai lang la! :p
Comes to show hand, "cluck cluck" like a chicken :D

So far I did not throw money unnecessary just on a watching game first. This afternoon I just withdrawn $5000 five piece of pink notes from POSB and keep in my wallet in case I need to hang big :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....This afternoon I just withdrawn $5000 five piece of pink notes from POSB and keep in my wallet in case I need to hang big :D

What will be your trigger point? :D
Expecting a show down tonight? :p

[Big Foot]

What will be your trigger point?
Expecting a show down tonight?

Hmm ... I have yet to decide where my trigger point should aim to :confused:

facing 2 options

(a) A pretty quality singer in a mid-tier joint who I fall in love with :p but she had boyfriend liao

(b) A pretty young singer in a high-end joint whom I like but seem like she had oldies powerhouse supporters liao

Yes... I will be watching a show tonight :D but not oblige to hang anything ;)

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

facing 2 options

(a) A pretty quality singer in a mid-tier joint who I fall in love with :p but she had boyfriend liao

(b) A pretty young singer in a high-end joint whom I like but seem like she had oldies powerhouse supporters liao

Hmm..............Let me log my divine sticks
Option A and Option B is just a stone throw from each other?
My divine stick also warned of DANGER (戒签) on Option A cos 一人大来一人小，三人同行两人好, 这番买卖难事，防失财宝, 万不可为爱执着, 为爱所累, 为爱所苦呀。:o

[Big Foot]

Hmm..............Let me log my divine sticks
Option A and Option B is just a stone throw from each other?
My divine stick also warned of DANGER on Option A :D

So you agree that I should try Option B that provide a realistic chance than Option A :confused:

I prepare to lose the cash I am holding now if I failed :o

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

So you agree that I should try Option B that provide a realistic chance than Option A :confused:

I prepare to lose the cash I am holding now if I failed :o

IMHO prepare to lost the spare cash is good but failure is not an option. You will win over those old blocks. Personally, I never get intimidated by any oldblocks or powerhouses cos I got no money to out-bid them (mah! :D), I only afraid of 小人. Also 男人上欢场, 會上床還不行, 會下床才是聰明 ;)

[proton_cannon]

hmm, no wonder got such strong support, wonder who's the bro with such power

She went back already today. Wun be back after a few more months.

Yea.. damn notorious for her exploding cups in a white dress :D

[Big Foot]

IMHO prepare to lost the spare cash is good but failure is not an option. You will win over those old blocks. Personally, I never get intimidated by any oldblocks or powerhouses cos I got no money to out-bid them (mah! :D), I only afraid of 小人. Also 男人上欢场, 會上床還不行, 會下床才是聰明 ;)

Thanks for your supports Bro IK :D

Tonight same thing adopt defensive strategy first :p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Remember, having the ammo for one showdown is nothing.
Consistancy is key.
If u bomb one nite, u must be prepared for for showdown.
Say tonight draw, then wat?
Round 2 lor
who can endure the longest n has the most ammo wins.
But i am wondering, y waste ur bullets on cunts that is already owned?
In my book, it aint worth anymore!
Just my 2cts but different strokes for different folks

[seabeng]

So far I did not throw money unnecessary just on a watching game first. This afternoon I just withdrawn $5000 five piece of pink notes from POSB and keep in my wallet in case I need to hang big :D

Bro, many good advise from bros here.

I agree but if I were you, play it that you are not a big hanger but show them that you have the cash should there be a need. If those have bf or supporter why go and compete? If you are there, play it cool and no need to splash the 5k. Hang in the region of $200 or maybe $300. Call for the bill when she is with you and let her see that you have the big notes you have in your wallet too. Let her kan chiong you rather you kan chiong her. Head on clash, either you or her supporter will get ko and she is the winner.
Each time they asked or call if I am free to go down I will say ok. I hang small. Can be 1 week I am down 3 to 4 times and each time she sees my big notes you can see her drool. Play it cool and dont rush. You think you may miss one you like this time but who knows you could get a better one the next time. Plenty fishes lah. Big joint, small joint I am sure you will come across someone you will like.......to bonk. Important thing is NEVER NEVER let your emo get the better of you. If that happens, 10 times 5k also not enough.

Like I said, these singers are mercenaries and their knife really sharp (sharper than Sharp TV) and even if they are really first time to Singapore they had already gone through a "mercenaries course" in China how and what to do when in Singapore. These singers knows what is expected of them here in Singapore in order to earn money. Quite true that not many want to earn those one night entertainment with customers but prefer "supporter" for 6 months. No matter how small a supporter you are, at the end of 6 months it adds up quite a lot too.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

It’s like Kite flying. If you get excited and pull too hard, the kite will jerk around fast and probably crash - But if you eased into it, the kite will gracefully. When you bring your hands back even, the kite will straighten out. If you keep turning, the kite will fly all the way around into a circle and out of control and most probably crash after that. :D

[MoralEpitome]

So happy to see all the senior bros back commenting on this thread! Think I am memerized by this singer no. 6 from CJ or is it number 3, too mambo now to remember.
Got another singer from another joint told me she likes me for me and don't need me to hang her, jio me out for dinner, hmmm, don't know real or not...so far not much monetary investment on her, don't know can get free fuck or not.

[AceFool]

Got another singer from another joint told me she likes me for me and don't need me to hang her, jio me out for dinner, hmmm, don't know real or not...so far not much monetary investment on her, don't know can get free fuck or not.

Sounds familiar. Got a singer told me something similar sometime last month. After a few meals together, my wallet started to get lighter and lighter (all sorts of reasons and excuses to extract money from me). Ended up 10k poorer within a month.

Guess that is the price to pay for newbie.

[seabeng]

Sounds familiar. Got a singer told me something similar sometime last month. After a few meals together, my wallet started to get lighter and lighter (all sorts of reasons and excuses to extract money from me). Ended up 10k poorer within a month.

Guess that is the price to pay for newbie.

Bro, hope with the 10k lighter from you bank account you had your happy fuck. Like I said, it is a trade.

This is an ongoing tatics by the singers. They probably have enough customers and maybe also a "fix head" already. They know their monthly target are acheiveable every month therefore they will ask you not to hang any or much flower (because it has to be shared with the boss). Their motive is to get you (depends on if you are "zitong" or not) to give them the cash which you intend to spend on flower banner for them.

Jio-ing you out for dinner is another trick because after dinner they may drop by at some shops likely boutique, cosmetic or handbag shops........you know the results and answer. Their demand will not be high, mid range products aroung 100 plus or so but can be very frequent "dinner"
Why they never asked you for supper? Shopping closed. Hahaha unless they asked you to go to Swee Choon for dian sin supper lah...after that to Mustaffa lor.
If you bo-chiap and play dead see if they will continue and ask you not to hang them flowers next time you visit her.

Free fuck........hahaha bro nothing is free. Maybe free now, long term installments more jaliat. The "free" fuck is the small incentive likely every invester like you will get. Since nothing for free, then you should stretch your investments. Each time you sense something is coming when comes to purchases or the $$$ play smart but dont play dead if you want a fuck. These singers ploy are usually from mid or small range flower joint. Times are bad and who knows......from big joint too maybe.

All these are part of their training from their mercenary school they got in China. Their teachers are those old birds who have worked here many times. The only way to fight these mercenaries are to be a mercanary yourself. Fight fire with fire. Kenna burn a little bo-bian, small bro shiok ok but dont be a forgotten suagage burning on a bbq fire the whole night.

:p

[Big Foot]

But i am wondering, y waste ur bullets on cunts that is already owned?
In my book, it aint worth anymore!
Just my 2cts but different strokes for different folks

Bro, many good advise from bros here.

I agree but if I were you, play it that you are not a big hanger but show them that you have the cash should there be a need. If those have bf or supporter why go and compete? If you are there, play it cool and no need to splash the 5k. Hang in the region of $200 or maybe $300. Call for the bill when she is with you and let her see that you have the big notes you have in your wallet too. Let her kan chiong you rather you kan chiong her. Head on clash, either you or her supporter will get ko and she is the winner.
Each time they asked or call if I am free to go down I will say ok. I hang small. Can be 1 week I am down 3 to 4 times and each time she sees my big notes you can see her drool. Play it cool and dont rush. You think you may miss one you like this time but who knows you could get a better one the next time. Plenty fishes lah. Big joint, small joint I am sure you will come across someone you will like.......to bonk. Important thing is NEVER NEVER let your emo get the better of you. If that happens, 10 times 5k also not enough.

Dear Bro DO YOU BJ & bro seabeng, thanks for the concern on me.

So far till now for the past one month I had not hang anything more than $200 at one go. At the moment, I going to that high end joint to aim on one singer but no action from me yet ..just observe first. The money I prepare is meant for situation while I get provoked then I use it to hang big so that I dun lose face in front of these HFJ people. I am still cool now :cool:

[Big Foot]

So happy to see all the senior bros back commenting on this thread! Think I am memerized by this singer no. 6 from CJ or is it number 3, too mambo now to remember.
Got another singer from another joint told me she likes me for me and don't need me to hang her, jio me out for dinner, hmmm, don't know real or not...so far not much monetary investment on her, don't know can get free fuck or not.

Sounds familiar. Got a singer told me something similar sometime last month. After a few meals together, my wallet started to get lighter and lighter (all sorts of reasons and excuses to extract money from me). Ended up 10k poorer within a month.

Guess that is the price to pay for newbie.

You guys still get dinners & meals from these singers. The singer that I hang quite a lot (accumulated) of money did not even say want to buy me meals or beer :mad:

Maybe they see me as a working class salary man - customer :o

[alan0338]

You guys still get dinners & meals from these singers. The singer that I hang quite a lot (accumulated) of money did not even say want to buy me meals or beer :mad:

Maybe they see me as a working class salary man - customer :o

then u should hang for other gals and skip her la, make her dulan ma :D at least tats wat i did when buying LD for gals in TP last time ... :D

[MoralEpitome]

Sounds familiar. Got a singer told me something similar sometime last month. After a few meals together, my wallet started to get lighter and lighter (all sorts of reasons and excuses to extract money from me). Ended up 10k poorer within a month.

Guess that is the price to pay for newbie.

Ya, haha, but I got one policy, NFNT, no fuck no talk....hahaha

[MoralEpitome]

You guys still get dinners & meals from these singers. The singer that I hang quite a lot (accumulated) of money did not even say want to buy me meals or beer :mad:

Maybe they see me as a working class salary man - customer :o

Then you need to work on your KC tactics....use KC to get free and cheap fucks.....at least that's what poor man like me need to do....:D

[Big Foot]

then u should hang for other gals and skip her la, make her dulan ma :D at least tats wat i did when buying LD for gals in TP last time ... :D

maybe it's times for me to hang other gals

Then you need to work on your KC tactics....use KC to get free and cheap fucks.....at least that's what poor man like me need to do....:D

This times I must KC my target liao ...wish me luck :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

To me la, when playing HFJ, must have integrity.
Never go after a singer who already belongs to someone.
Never say you "IN LOVE" wif watever singer.
If you have not even been wif her & can shout you love her liao, please dun go HFJ, its not for you.
Its all centered around money.
The one who wants the other more than the other looses the game.
To catch a thief, u must think like one.
Always act nice but always be thinking, y she do this, y she do that? Purpose of this action? What does she want to achieve by doin this?
Never trust them!
NEVER!

[Big Foot]

To me la, when playing HFJ, must have integrity.
Never go after a singer who already belongs to someone.
Never say you "IN LOVE" wif watever singer.
If you have not even been wif her & can shout you love her liao, please dun go HFJ, its not for you.
Its all centered around money.
The one who wants the other more than the other looses the game.
To catch a thief, u must think like one.
Always act nice but always be thinking, y she do this, y she do that? Purpose of this action? What does she want to achieve by doin this?
Never trust them!
NEVER!

Yes Sir, I concur & will follow all the above been mentioned :D

I only in love with a KTV gal before... so far not singer yet.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yes Sir, I concur & will follow all the above been mentioned :D

I only in love with a KTV gal before... so far not singer yet.

Singers r the elite in the nite scene whores.
The more you into them, the more they'll drain you!
Make then need u more than u need them, n always remember, be in control.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Add on to Dage DYBJ post:

Whoever put EMO 1st = LOSE!
It's as simple as that!
Also do away with all these craps GF feeling cos end of day it's their surface job and you're lonely. You want sex and she need stack (of dollars notes) nothing else really matters.
Be as clear as morning dew: They hardly have time to sleep, you think they have time for "love & feelings" ;)
One can be a singer boyfriend but she don't have to like you as a person except your money
To her, you are just a fuck mate paying for sex. You pay, I spread.
You can perform many good and life-saving deeds which would otherwise makes any normal girls head over heels over you but this seldom (or never ever) happen to PRC singers! You good deeds may only last for a night or 3 (three) perhaps.

Sometimes, I sincerely pity those naive suckers' feeling of sympathy and sorrow for the "misfortunes" of these PRC singers. Naive in a sense thinking that they are here to make a hard, tough and decent living and cramping in sharing accommodation. (Actually in China, this is really nothing atall and these singers are tougher and rougher than you think!) All these white knights often like clockwork chaperoning, packing dinners and herbal tea for fear these singers will die of hunger and high humidity here. Their act of "filial piety" towards these singers are much much better than their loved ones and old folks! End of day, It's all about money and sex or perhaps there's really a karmic link of a distant village "PRC sister" ;)

[MoralEpitome]

maybe it's times for me to hang other gals



This times I must KC my target liao ...wish me luck :D

Singers are queens of KC as Bro BYBJ said, so you must be able to one up on the KC game! Yes, read Bro BYBJ words carefully, he's the epitome of the HF game

[Big Foot]

Bro DYBY, Bro IK & Bro ME

Later I am going to that high-end joint to see that singer and intend to hang $500 on her but after reading so many views now at most I will hang $200 to see how first. I will be in control of emotion part and will not let them dig all my money :D

[K9696]

Bro DYBY, Bro IK & Bro ME

Later I am going to that high-end joint to see that singer and intend to hang $500 on her but after reading so many views now at most I will hang $200 to see how first. I will be in control of emotion part and will not let them dig all my money :D

I had been reading and reading all your postings including my DAGE notes to you.. you seem not understand what is he trying to Teach YOU.:confused: sigh..

Please keep your $200.

Go there when PPC is about to start... watch carefully the flower pattern and make sure your TARGET is not being targetted by anyone, if YES, you got to ask yourself, are you game enough to engage this flower war, if you are not or if you do not have much ammo.. then.. pack and go home.
HFJ is not so simple as KTV, it is about $ and Cents. :D

冲动是干不了大事. 冷静的头脑才能击退你的敌人.

It is also good to tips the waitress and waiter well so that they can provide insider intel to you TIMELY. 知己知彼百战百胜..

[K9696]

Singers r the elite in the nite scene whores.
The more you into them, the more they'll drain you!
Make then need u more than u need them, n always remember, be in control.

DAGE, its time to change your AVATAR la..... LI BUAY SIAN meh....:p:D

[花场Escapefrom]

Bro Big foot, getting the babe in bed depends on a number of factors.

a. How old are you?. are you near their age group, or if you have a gen gap.
b. Are you obese?
c. Do you drive a nice car?
d. Are you humourous? can you make them laugh.

They will sleep with someone that is fun, near their age group, have a nice car and easy company...without cash if you are lucky and you have the right vibes....

Seen it happen to many times, very fat, very short, very old, throw thousands, yet they would rather have fun with a mature, nice looking, tanned person instead.
The younger person can say "I am not here to hang flowers, not like the other idiots, i am only here to have fun, I can be your temporary boyfriend..." and he gets the girl

BTW not refering to myself.. me obese, old and flabby...

[K9696]

! You good deeds may only last for a night or 3 (three) perhaps.

" ;)

bro.. i think it lasts for only a night... hahaha:)
tomorrow when sun rises, all had been washed !!;)

[teebs_darklord]

I had been reading and reading all your postings including my DAGE notes to you.. you seem not understand what is he trying to Teach YOU.:confused: sigh..

Please keep your $200.

Go there when PPC is about to start... watch carefully the flower pattern and make sure your TARGET is not being targetted by anyone, if YES, you got to ask yourself, are you game enough to engage this flower war, if you are not or if you do not have much ammo.. then.. pack and go home.
HFJ is not so simple as KTV, it is about $ and Cents. :D

冲动是干不了大事. 冷静的头脑才能击退你的敌人.

It is also good to tips the waitress and waiter well so that they can provide insider intel to you TIMELY. 知己知彼百战百胜..

Hahahahaahahaha...Some people just won't get it no matter how simple you put what you want to say to them...:D

And in high end HFJ hang $200??? :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....a mature, ....., tanned person instead......The ..... person can say "I am not here to hang flowers.....i am only here to have fun.......

Seems quite fit my description :D Me quite tanned and lean nowadays and really not into hang flower anymore, just have fun & get high.....then also not able to bed the girls...Think these singers going after is Mr. Yusof type of tanned colors with shades of Blues, Orange, Pinkist and of cos, the most preferred would be Gold colored tone....Wahahahahahaha....There's opportunity in crisis. Wei Ji (危机)= JīHuì (机会) Now is the time to park $$$ elsewhere not WeiJi (喂鸡). :p

[MoralEpitome]

Bro DYBY, Bro IK & Bro ME

Later I am going to that high-end joint to see that singer and intend to hang $500 on her but after reading so many views now at most I will hang $200 to see how first. I will be in control of emotion part and will not let them dig all my money :D

I have to agree with bro K9696 on this, if I go high end joint, I rather spend the $200 on a cheap bonk than to hang $200......high end joint hang $1000 for intro, and $5000 for small impact only, bonk when you hang $10000, I feel this is the bare mimimum to do it. Even for mid range also need 500, 3000, 5000, but not bad la, maybe I can try this at cj no. 6, she's swee!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I have to agree with bro K9696 on this, if I go high end joint, I rather spend the $200 on a cheap bonk than to hang $200......high end joint hang $1000 for intro, and $5000 for small impact only, bonk when you hang $10000, I feel this is the bare mimimum to do it. Even for mid range also need 500, 3000, 5000, but not bad la, maybe I can try this at cj no. 6, she's swee!

PM me who it is.
Many new recycles over there!

[Big Foot]

I had been reading and reading all your postings including my DAGE notes to you.. you seem not understand what is he trying to Teach YOU.:confused: sigh..

Please keep your $200.

Go there when PPC is about to start... watch carefully the flower pattern and make sure your TARGET is not being targetted by anyone, if YES, you got to ask yourself, are you game enough to engage this flower war, if you are not or if you do not have much ammo.. then.. pack and go home.
HFJ is not so simple as KTV, it is about $ and Cents. :D

冲动是干不了大事. 冷静的头脑才能击退你的敌人.

It is also good to tips the waitress and waiter well so that they can provide insider intel to you TIMELY. 知己知彼百战百胜..


Tonight I left the joint at midnight before PPC very tired. Yes just now my singer sat with me for about 1.5 hrs and yes she is the ang pai and also targetted by someone who normally hang $500 during PPC and mai chang. She is 1st time in SG and worked here for 2 months liao.

I did tip the waitress $10 ...to little ?

My first hang on her is $200 ... and I had prepare a kitty for this battle.

Game on :D sorry just joking maybe I should stop going from tonight onward :(

[Big Foot]

Bro Big foot, getting the babe in bed depends on a number of factors.

a. How old are you?. are you near their age group, or if you have a gen gap.
b. Are you obese?
c. Do you drive a nice car?
d. Are you humourous? can you make them laugh.

They will sleep with someone that is fun, near their age group, have a nice car and easy company...without cash if you are lucky and you have the right vibes....

Seen it happen to many times, very fat, very short, very old, throw thousands, yet they would rather have fun with a mature, nice looking, tanned person instead.
The younger person can say "I am not here to hang flowers, not like the other idiots, i am only here to have fun, I can be your temporary boyfriend..." and he gets the girl

BTW not refering to myself.. me obese, old and flabby...

Bro Escape,

a. I am in mid-thirties.
b. I am slim and averagely good-looking (not haolian)
c. I do not drive a nice car
d. Yes, I am humourous and did make them laugh

I did hang cash on them but on a slowly basis.

Am I stupid :confused:

[Big Foot]

I have to agree with bro K9696 on this, if I go high end joint, I rather spend the $200 on a cheap bonk than to hang $200......high end joint hang $1000 for intro, and $5000 for small impact only, bonk when you hang $10000, I feel this is the bare mimimum to do it. Even for mid range also need 500, 3000, 5000, but not bad la, maybe I can try this at cj no. 6, she's swee!

Oh shit :( I wasted my $200 again for intro.

CJ is consider mid range :confused:

Maybe I should pull out of HFJ now ..seem stupid the singer manageress also bo-hew me :o

[Big Foot]

I am so ashamed on myself now :(

Should I stop going to that high-end joint ?

[Big Foot]

Hahahahaahahaha...Some people just won't get it no matter how simple you put what you want to say to them...:D

And in high end HFJ hang $200??? :D

But I did saw customers hanging $100, $200 to $500.

What wrong with my $200 :confused:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

But I did saw customers hanging $100, $200 to $500.

What wrong with my $200 :confused:

Huang Chao is notoriously known for many power hangers.
Several here in this forum r legends there too incase u didnt know.
Tipping 10 or 20 bucks is nothing, its called common.
If you want intel, start being generous by tipping 50bucks.
As for the ang bai, wat makes u so sure its her 1st stint on our island.
100 -300 is known as kopi lui flowers there.
If she has a supporter who hangs 500 a night plus mai chang after, you already know.
So why keep hanging on her & someone else is eating the fruit?

HFJ, must learn to be damn shrewed.
Only believe wat u see n not wat you hear.
Singers can come here 6th stint liao but still tell you 1st time.
Some still look damn young or started as young as 18!
Do u hv anyone to cross reference wif?
Guess not rite...............

Bottom line, some things is best not to be shy n just be direct.
The more you dun make any indecent proposals, the more they keep pulling your wallet!
So if u want someone, just ask, yes, lets go.
No, fuck off, next pussy!
Dun keep harping on the same tree that doesnt bear u any fruit.
If you have a friend who does that, wouldn't you call him stupid?
Pun intended!

[Big Foot]

Huang Chao is notoriously known for many power hangers.
Several here in this forum r legends there too incase u didnt know.
Tipping 10 or 20 bucks is nothing, its called common.
If you want intel, start being generous by tipping 50bucks.
As for the ang bai, wat makes u so sure its her 1st stint on our island.
100 -300 is known as kopi lui flowers there.
If she has a supporter who hangs 500 a night plus mai chang after, you already know.
So why keep hanging on her & someone else is eating the fruit?

HFJ, must learn to be damn shrewed.
Only believe wat u see n not wat you hear.
Singers can come here 6th stint liao but still tell you 1st time.
Some still look damn young or started as young as 18!
Do u hv anyone to cross reference wif?
Guess not rite...............

Bottom line, some things is best not to be shy n just be direct.
The more you dun make any indecent proposals, the more they keep pulling your wallet!
So if u want someone, just ask, yes, lets go.
No, fuck off, next pussy!
Dun keep harping on the same tree that doesnt bear u any fruit.
If you have a friend who does that, wouldn't you call him stupid?
Pun intended!

Thanks I know I am stupid and I quit now :(

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Thanks I know I am stupid and I quit now :(

bro, do not be upset wif my remark!
It was meant to be a wake up call to you that is way overdue!
I hope you see it in that way, else I've failed!

[K9696]

PM me who it is.
Many new recycles over there!

大哥，你又来了。。。哈哈哈。。buay liao a.....hahah:D

[K9696]

bro, do not be upset wif my remark!
It was meant to be a wake up call to you that is way overdue!
I hope you see it in that way, else I've failed!

Thanks I know I am stupid and I quit now :(

Our bro here is not here to shoot you down, but give you some enlightenment and awakening calls...

We know you are swimming with Big Shark.. we do not want you to get hurt, this is our intention.

Therefore to throw $200 - is nothing, might as well saving it for smallest joint if you really want it..those at syed alwai street...many there...

Since you r in your thirties, those smallest joint singers may not be up to those standard in the Big or medium joints.. but still you could find some gems there. At the end you only want PUSSY and COMPANY right?

Happy finding:)
一天为魔，终身为魔

[teebs_darklord]

But I did saw customers hanging $100, $200 to $500.

What wrong with my $200 :confused:

I think Bro DYBJ has explained it to you very well in his post...:D

As for quitting HFJ or not, it's your own personal choice but unless you have deep pockets, just go to the high end joints to soak in the atmosphere and dun hang. If you manage to witness any flower wars, you will understand why I said $200 is nothing there...:p

[K9696]

HFJ, must learn to be damn shrewed.
Only believe wat u see n not wat you hear.
Singers can come here 6th stint liao but still tell you 1st time.
Some still look damn young or started as young as 18!
!

This highlighted thingy sounds so familiar to me.. dunnoe where i heard this wor.....:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

dage, its time to change your avatar la..... Li buay sian meh....:p:d

happy!@#$;):d:

[DO_YOU_BJ]

This highlighted thingy sounds so familiar to me.. dunnoe where i heard this wor.....:D

The one that u know is 7th not 6th!
Super veteran and not even 30 yet!
POWER!

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Tonight I left the joint at midnight before PPC very tired. Yes just now my singer sat with me for about 1.5 hrs and yes she is the ang pai and also targetted by someone who normally hang $500 during PPC and mai chang. She is 1st time in SG and worked here for 2 months liao.

I did tip the waitress $10 ...to little ?

My first hang on her is $200 ... and I had prepare a kitty for this battle.

Game on sorry just joking maybe I should stop going from tonight onward

Oh shit :( I wasted my $200 again for intro.

Maybe I should pull out of HFJ now ..seem stupid the singer manageress also bo-hew me

What wasted? 1.5 hour sitting not enough?
How to compete with the $500 without blinking an eyelid guy?
How to mai chang like that?

I am so ashamed on myself now

Should I stop going to that high-end joint ?

But I did saw customers hanging $100, $200 to $500.

What wrong with my $200

Huh? What happened la? Why so volatile emotion? :confused:

Make no mistake about it: You want to go after an Ang Pai Popular Singer, You got to enjoy the Roller Coaster joy rides or you just want to be one in the crowd? ;)

Absoutely nothing wrong with a $200 "Introduction Courtesy Fire & Forget" flower. Then again, what did you expect from a $200 flower?
Cos last I recalled singer manageress would not be popping confetti for that amount :D

[jacky chan]

lOOK like this thread is alive again:D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

happy!@#$;):d:

Dage, your cai very chio leh :D

lOOK like this thread is alive again:D

Wow-say! Another dage here liao.
Xiao di me better listen liao la ;)

[proton_cannon]

Bro Big Foot u go CJ yesterdae nite ??? u hang 200 ?? yesterdae nite alot of 200 le ?? hahaha !

[Big Foot]

bro, do not be upset wif my remark!
It was meant to be a wake up call to you that is way overdue!
I hope you see it in that way, else I've failed!

Bro, I fully understand now what you are driving at. I will quit this HFJ game now and I will be more direct in asking
for what I want in future (if I go HFJ again)

I will play smart :p and thanks again

[Big Foot]

What wasted? 1.5 hour sitting not enough?
How to compete with the $500 without blinking an eyelid guy?
How to mai chang like that?





Huh? What happened la? Why so volatile emotion? :confused:

Make no mistake about it: You want to go after an Ang Pai Popular Singer, You got to enjoy the Roller Coaster joy rides or you just want to be one in the crowd? ;)

Absoutely nothing wrong with a $200 "Introduction Courtesy Fire & Forget" flower. Then again, what did you expect from a $200 flower?
Cos last I recalled singer manageress would not be popping confetti for that amount :D

No la...I am re-thinking my actions now and changing my mindset as not throw unnecessary money further without a realistic chance that may cause embarrassment to myself :o

[Big Foot]

Bro Big Foot u go CJ yesterdae nite ??? u hang 200 ?? yesterdae nite alot of 200 le ?? hahaha !

Nope bro proton ... I did not go Club Jade last night :)

[Big Foot]

Our bro here is not here to shoot you down, but give you some enlightenment and awakening calls...

We know you are swimming with Big Shark.. we do not want you to get hurt, this is our intention.

Therefore to throw $200 - is nothing, might as well saving it for smallest joint if you really want it..those at syed alwai street...many there...

Since you r in your thirties, those smallest joint singers may not be up to those standard in the Big or medium joints.. but still you could find some gems there. At the end you only want PUSSY and COMPANY right?

Happy finding:)
一天为魔，终身为魔

I concur that make sense too at the end of the day is just for a short term pussy and also the amount
I threw that just insignificant for anything in Big joints.

I have to protect myself now :cool:

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....without a realistic chance that may cause embarrassment to myself :o

What sort of embarrassing incident have occurred last night? :(

[Big Foot]

What sort of embarrassing incident have occurred last night? :(

Probably I hanged less and tipped little. $200 flower & $10 tips to waitress :confused:

Feeling like an average-joe customers to the nightclub operators :o

My singer still nice and walked me to main entrance she asked to come again tonight :p

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Probably I hanged less and tipped little. $200 flower & $10 tips to waitress :confused:

My singer still nice and walked me to main entrance she asked to come again tonight :p

I just learnt some hybrid words :D
Wow! Ang Pai walked you to the main entrance towards the elevators leh!
You must be very yantao like caiyan :p

[Big Foot]

I just learnt some hybrid words :D
Wow! Ang Pai walked you to the main entrance towards the elevators leh!
You must be very yantao like caiyan :p

Bro..please dun suan me la. I am just sharing what happen to me last night.

The other singers see me also never smile and put on a stern face when they saw me. Guess this is Big joints style :rolleyes:

[Big Foot]

I happened to know one guy in late forties that went there alone almost every night.

He sat with the same singer each time he hanged $100 on his singer :confused:

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Bro..please dun suan me la. I am just sharing what happen to me last night.

The other singers see me also never smile and put on a stern face when they saw me. Guess this is Big joints style :rolleyes:

I just learnt some hybrid words

I seldom speak Hokkein. But really Tong-Li-Buay-Diao :D You already won Big liao la, 1.5 hour of non-stop chatting and bioing her boobs. She walked you to the entrance with a megawatt smile:今晚记得来奥!呵呵 :p The other singers, of cos, sure stern faces la, cos yantao-ko (燕盗哥) never hung or hui them mah ;)

[teebs_darklord]

I just learnt some hybrid words :D
Wow! Ang Pai walked you to the main entrance towards the elevators leh!
You must be very yantao like caiyan :p

Bro IK, Wah...Yan Dao like Cai Yan...first time I heard this leh...:D

[Loving_Dickhead]

Bro DYBY, Bro IK & Bro ME

Later I am going to that high-end joint to see that singer and intend to hang $500 on her but after reading so many views now at most I will hang $200 to see how first. I will be in control of emotion part and will not let them dig all my money :D

Bro Big-Foot,

What is your definition of a high-class joint?

To me a high-class joint is of Lido, Dynasty, LV type-standards.
Macau, Club Jade, Dong Men, Shen-Hua etc are the middle-tier.
The rest brings of the bottom tier.

Dubious joints do not even cut into the above categories.

Many sages are here to hint to you, note they can only hint hint without being too explicite. Certain things you need to practice self-control, self-mastery, self-awareness and situational-awareness. In a HFJ, you will get the chance to hone all these skills not taught in school.

In mid-tier joints, $200 $300 $500 count for nothing. If you been to CJ or Macau, $500 banners are in the common. You are warned. Few of CJ singers have strong supporters as with Macau. Most of the big joints singers have Full-time "BFs".

Think again, why waste your hard-earned money on recycled pussies. Give them to your wife, your kids or build a business.

Always let the singers prove themselves to you, and it is not vice-versa mind you. Remember you are the boss, your money kept the HFJs going in the scene.

Wakie wake bro!

Cheers,
LDH :D

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[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Bro IK, Wah...Yan Dao like Cai Yan...first time I heard this leh...:D

I was eating caiyan just now so invented this phrase :D

I happened to know one guy in late forties that went there alone almost every night.
He sat with the same singer each time he hanged $100 on his singer :confused:

Short guy?

[Big Foot]

I was eating caiyan just now so invented this phrase :D



Short guy?

Yes he is a short guy and I saw him almost every night. Sometimes he is seen sleeping on the sofa :confused:

He look like some kinds of small SME bosses :confused::confused:

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Yes he is a short guy and I saw him almost every night. Sometimes he is seen sleeping on the sofa :confused:

He look like some kinds of small SME bosses

He's a harmless and nice chap. When he got high is really funny! ;)
On a sincere note: I advise you to switch target, not worth it :p

[Big Foot]

He's a harmless and nice chap. When he got high is really funny! ;)
On a sincere note: I advise you to switch target, not worth it :p

Noted... I will :cool:

Thanks bro IK

[MoralEpitome]

Bro BYBJ: I think it is number 6 at CJ, quite pretty one, but I did not hang her as my timing not suitable for singers, left before PPC, first round she sat with an uncle but he did not hang her, and as you know one round of singing bo chun one...long ago got one fren hang $100 during round one and no one else hang, he tot very good, suddenly PPC, all the $1000 $5000 come out, he stun, I also stun...lol....this is before all your kind guidance with singers

Bro LDH: Well said!

Bro BigFoot: You damn funny la but thanks for giving us some entertainment, yes $200 is ok just to get the singer to say hi to you and intro, the singer would definitely be polite to sit with you a while and thank you but obviously she will want much more. I do not know how much you have to spend but if you are an average employed man like me I suggest you go for lower to mid range singers and date them out during non working hours and do some KC, so far I only spent $150 on this singer and she jio me out to screw leow.

[alan0338]

I only spent $150 on this singer and she jio me out to screw leow.

u also must be yan dao like cai yan or tongue sweet as cai yan :D :D

[MoralEpitome]

u also must be yan dao like cai yan or tongue sweet as cai yan :D :D

Neither of the above but my nipple tongueing flicking skills are out of this world (;

[UndeaD80]

Bro BYBJ: I think it is number 6 at CJ, quite pretty one, but I did not hang her as my timing not suitable for singers, left before PPC, first round she sat with an uncle but he did not hang her, and as you know one round of singing bo chun one...long ago got one fren hang $100 during round one and no one else hang, he tot very good, suddenly PPC, all the $1000 $5000 come out, he stun, I also stun...lol....this is before all your kind guidance with singers

Bro LDH: Well said!

Bro BigFoot: You damn funny la but thanks for giving us some entertainment, yes $200 is ok just to get the singer to say hi to you and intro, the singer would definitely be polite to sit with you a while and thank you but obviously she will want much more. I do not know how much you have to spend but if you are an average employed man like me I suggest you go for lower to mid range singers and date them out during non working hours and do some KC, so far I only spent $150 on this singer and she jio me out to screw leow.


wah bro $150 u able to screw the singer??
Salute :)

[Big Foot]

Bro BigFoot: You damn funny la but thanks for giving us some entertainment, yes $200 is ok just to get the singer to say hi to you and intro, the singer would definitely be polite to sit with you a while and thank you but obviously she will want much more. I do not know how much you have to spend but if you are an average employed man like me I suggest you go for lower to mid range singers and date them out during non working hours and do some KC, so far I only spent $150 on this singer and she jio me out to screw leow.

Bro ME, I am not giving out entertainment and what I shared is real.

Its time for me to use some KC skill like you :D

[K9696]

Bro ME, I am not giving out entertainment and what I shared is real.

Its time for me to use some KC skill like you :D

Bro...
1. I m not sure how sweet is ur mouth!

2. Singers - use KC, only 10% hit rate, unless you are damn YANDAO! YanDao also bull shit, SIANDAO is machiam workable

3. Singers - 90% need moolah to finance her daily expenses, like accommodation, makan la, comestics la, her "OWN home-loan" etc.. all these if you tabulate out ... you think your $200 - can buy her to BED! bro.. think again.. not here to suan you... VISA-application fee already cost her a bomb to come here.

4. Can you support her - when she said she got 订台，秀 等等。

Hope you can do your homework and do your magic.

I know one bro.. he is SiaoDao... so... singers let her do the magic as he likes, but in return he also have to invest a little ($10,000) la.....:):D

Hope this will help you.

一天为魔。。。终身为魔。。。

[teebs_darklord]

Bro ME, I am not giving out entertainment and what I shared is real.

Its time for me to use some KC skill like you :D

Big Foot,

I think it is time for you to take the advice of senior bros who cheong HFJs regularly seriously. Bro DYBJ, K9696, IK etc have already told you that you need a lot of moola ($$$) if you want to play in HFJs. KC will get you only so far if you do not have the $$$ backing to continue playing...:D

End of the day, all the gals be they singers, ktv gals, FLs, WLs etc are here to make money.

[tomyambeehoon]

Big Foot,

I think it is time for you to take the advice of senior bros who cheong HFJs regularly seriously. Bro DYBJ, K9696, IK etc have already told you that you need a lot of moola ($$$) if you want to play in HFJs. KC will get you only so far if you do not have the $$$ backing to continue playing...:D

End of the day, all the gals be they singers, ktv gals, FLs, WLs etc are here to make money.

Bird talk abit...
讲情唔喽用，
讲钱咔实在。

[jacky chan]

I think bro big foot already got all the points, oli that u want hi class or low class joints. High class joint u need lots of money to invest and yet u might not get the pussies, but if u are jst going for pussies, small joint can also be done. SOme small joints do have some pretty gals and less than one K u can bonk liao, even my old man fren can do the miracles less than 1k, I believe with yr age and investment, y don jst try the small and fight with why fight with those supporters in the big joints.:D

As bro LDH said, don waste your hard earn money bro, if u are garang enough, go small joint to support the gal u want with each time 200, the third time, tell her straight and u will support her and ask her in return go to 9 x 9, short and sharp, don waste time. Now times are bad for them, some many joint s around, u will see the results.:cool:

KC need lots of patient and time and provided the gal have good impression on u on the first sight. Orelse they oli recognise S11.

Ask yourselve bro, wat your motive......then decide the move..

[DO_YOU_BJ]

哇，成龙大哥开口了嘿嘿

[jacky chan]

哇，成龙大哥开口了嘿嘿


Me just share my experience la, don want him to throw away all the hard earn money for no reason, if he give me the few k, i think i shd hv lot of pussies by now.hehe.
u always will appear after I wrote,,,,,very early ar..:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Just remember the maths.
A singer in a medium sized joint avg mthly target 8k
I was introduced by bro Jacky Chan to a small joint where the gals require 4k mthly target.
Remember, anything at the target line is 50/50 split, so they definitely have to try to earn more.
I know gals who just go earn loose flowers no firm BF just supporters plus dun screw also can get 15k a month!!!!!!!!!
That is as good as 500bucks a day.
Big joint dun say, expect around 10-12k mthly target and they dun and cannot rely on loose flowers.
Big joints are unlike the mid or small joints, where people can hang 30/50/100/200/300
Big joint hang mostly sure got cannon and above.
So u want to play or support a big joint chick, make sure you have 30k standby minus mai chang, minus makan etc etc
My previous gal from a mid sized joint, already supporting her wif 30+k of flowers per month which does not include mai chang which comes close to 10k monthly.
If got flower war lagi steam!
So if you wanna own an ang bai, you better have ammo else you will die a very very sad death!

[jacky chan]

Well say dage....they xiu target oli $1500, very easy to hit....so small joint is betther sometimes, no pressure for u. Spent 30K in a big joint and get one pussy or same amount in small joints u get more, which one is better..:D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Me just share my experience la, don want him to throw away all the hard earn money for no reason, if he give me the few k, i think i shd hv lot of pussies by now.hehe..:D

Master sage and King of small joints has spoken! :D

[jacky chan]

Master sage has spoken! :D


Me not king la, jst cant afford for big joint, so have to go those small one lo.

hehe seeing is believing. ......where hv u been?:confused:

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

hehe seeing is believing. ......where hv u been?:confused:

I went on a summer holidays short break over few days :p
Hand itchy itchy like addicted, logging in SBF to look see look see bros here ;)

[jacky chan]

:cool:I went on a summer holidays short break over few days :p
Hand itchy itchy like addicted, logging in SBF to look see look see bros here ;)

Then have fun, me going for meeting now, be back. Enjoy.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

:cool:

Then have fun, me going for meeting now, be back. Enjoy.

I heard you got promoted :D with a larger package :p

[jacky chan]

I heard you got promoted :D with a larger package :p

:(The other way round........

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Never Mind.
Hahaha

[seabeng]

Just remember the maths.
A singer in a medium sized joint avg mthly target 8k
I was introduced by bro Jacky Chan to a small joint where the gals require 4k mthly target.
Remember, anything at the target line is 50/50 split, so they definitely have to try to earn more.

even if they do 15k this month, calculations is as follows: 0-target (example 4k) 50/50 (could be 40/60) from 4.1k to 8k (could be any figure, upto the joint) 30/70 and then from 8k to 10 and above (again could be any figure) 20/80.
Mid joint usually asking 8k as target. Small joint from 3k to 6k as target.Big joint hahaha, the girls dont need a target. Got supporter, simi target also no problem. The target is the supporter so prepare AT LEAST 20k per month, this is the girl's target from you...the supporter, the lau kong, the qin ai de,......the more they call you the faster you die.....

I know gals who just go earn loose flowers no firm BF just supporters plus dun screw also can get 15k a month!!!!!!!!!

this figure for loose flowers (15k) in todays market, just from normal supporter and no "entertainment" imo hard to achieve for a small or even a mid joint. Big joint though there are loose flowers and their loose flowers are in the high range but they are few and not many. When you have new singers that reports at the big joint, you might find some new customers other than that always the same old face supporting own girl.

That is as good as 500bucks a day.
Big joint dun say, expect around 10-12k mthly target and they dun and cannot rely on loose flowers.

agree, regardless you can or cannot afford it is a nightmare

Big joints are unlike the mid or small joints, where people can hang 30/50/100/200/300
Big joint hang mostly sure got cannon and above.
So u want to play or support a big joint chick, make sure you have 30k standby minus mai chang, minus makan etc etc
My previous gal from a mid sized joint, already supporting her wif 30+k of flowers per month which does not include mai chang which comes close to 10k monthly.

bro, you are lucky with that figure. It cost me more for my first singer FB. Even subsequently for the others (singer) that follow me from the mid joint, it cost me more than over 30k per month.
Simple calculations:
apartment rental per month: $3500
her expensess per month $5000
mai chang about 15 to 20 days per month at $800 a day (20 x 800) $16,000
Balance 10 days on flowers $20,000
occassionally dinner with her, shopping with her etc about $6000
Miscellaneous, like back in China the hen lay eggs, the cat give birth etc., $3000 (heng ah not every month)
this works out to be, $45k to 55K per month

If got flower war lagi steam!
So if you wanna own an ang bai, you better have ammo else you will die a very very sad death!

all my singer fb are never the most ang pai in the joint but surely not the bottom in terms of flowers (i made and gave it to them) and looks. This way I die faster.....

So these flower scene is one damm jaliat place but each time you hang big especially during ppc or on some special functions you feel kind of shiok. But soon you will get over this kind of feeling. But rest assure if you want a good fuck from her, you should know what to do......the bottom line and most important is as long as you can afford and dont go over board and no EMO. My first one I emo and I died a horrible death. I still think of the first one, we had a nice holiday in Europe and the only pleasing thing was she help me to turn the clock back and I dont feel that I was in my fifties when I was with her. The first singer fb I had to date I spent close 600k Sin Dollars Though I bought her a nice house back in her home town plus a shop lot for her to do some bussiness, and fortunately she still treats me as lau kong as and when I go to China. However I am here in Singapore the big questions was....IS SOMEONE FUCKING HER ON MY BED?????
The rest of the other singer fb that follows, well no emo after 6 months is not true but very much less and I learned the art of "na de chi, fang de xia" unlike with the first one

[Big Foot]

Bro...
1. I m not sure how sweet is ur mouth!

2. Singers - use KC, only 10% hit rate, unless you are damn YANDAO! YanDao also bull shit, SIANDAO is machiam workable

3. Singers - 90% need moolah to finance her daily expenses, like accommodation, makan la, comestics la, her "OWN home-loan" etc.. all these if you tabulate out ... you think your $200 - can buy her to BED! bro.. think again.. not here to suan you... VISA-application fee already cost her a bomb to come here.

4. Can you support her - when she said she got 订台，秀 等等。

Hope you can do your homework and do your magic.

I know one bro.. he is SiaoDao... so... singers let her do the magic as he likes, but in return he also have to invest a little ($10,000) la.....:):D

Hope this will help you.

一天为魔。。。终身为魔。。。

This one I fully understand. Of course $200 buy nothing in real world for the singers. 订台，秀 等等 I can support temporary only :D

btw .. my singer told me that earlier an uncle customer withdrawn her flowers after paying the company portion. The nightclub asked her to chase her own portion. The uncle told her if she want the flower money she must go hotel with him but my singer refused & told she do not need his money :mad:

[Big Foot]

Big Foot,

I think it is time for you to take the advice of senior bros who cheong HFJs regularly seriously. Bro DYBJ, K9696, IK etc have already told you that you need a lot of moola ($$$) if you want to play in HFJs. KC will get you only so far if you do not have the $$$ backing to continue playing...:D

End of the day, all the gals be they singers, ktv gals, FLs, WLs etc are here to make money.

Thanks ..I already taken in seriously :)

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

btw .. my singer told me that earlier an uncle customer withdrawn her flowers after paying the company portion. The nightclub asked her to chase her own portion. The uncle told her if she want the flower money she must go hotel with him but my singer refused & told she do not need his money :mad:

Errrr...................this sort of sob stories quite common. Take it with a pinch of salt can liao la.

Next:

1) She will seek your help to support her with larger flower to make up for damage recovery

2) She's not bonkable or unless an amount far exceeding that uncle amount

Your objective is to fxxk her not pity her nor trying to be her hero cos many heros are 6ft under liao.

When this type of story comes out, it is better to quickly change subject before she open her " golden mouth" for that "golden question" - 你能帮我吗? (aka 帮你去荷兰)

[Big Foot]

I think bro big foot already got all the points, oli that u want hi class or low class joints. High class joint u need lots of money to invest and yet u might not get the pussies, but if u are jst going for pussies, small joint can also be done. SOme small joints do have some pretty gals and less than one K u can bonk liao, even my old man fren can do the miracles less than 1k, I believe with yr age and investment, y don jst try the small and fight with why fight with those supporters in the big joints.:D

As bro LDH said, don waste your hard earn money bro, if u are garang enough, go small joint to support the gal u want with each time 200, the third time, tell her straight and u will support her and ask her in return go to 9 x 9, short and sharp, don waste time. Now times are bad for them, some many joint s around, u will see the results.:cool:

KC need lots of patient and time and provided the gal have good impression on u on the first sight. Orelse they oli recognise S11.

Ask yourselve bro, wat your motive......then decide the move..

Thanks bro.. small joints is much cheaper to achieve our objectives :D

I only want to bonk them with girlfriend feeling and of course not bonking a chicken. I had been actively moving around small joints nowadays :p

[Big Foot]

Errrr...................this sort of sob stories quite common. Take it with a pinch of salt can liao la.

Next:

1) She will seek your help to support her with larger flower to make up for damage recovery

2) She's not bonkable or unless an amount far exceeding that uncle amount

Your objective is to fxxk her not pity her nor trying to be her hero cos many heros are 6ft under liao.

It is true. She told me if the customers is so hard up why dun they go Geylang straight to get what they want. She said she is not oblige to go hotels with them even they hanged thousands of dollars on her. She rather dun earn their money.

[Big Foot]

Me just share my experience la, don want him to throw away all the hard earn money for no reason, if he give me the few k, i think i shd hv lot of pussies by now.hehe.
u always will appear after I wrote,,,,,very early ar..:D

Bro.. I appreciated :p

[K9696]

btw .. my singer told me that earlier an uncle customer withdrawn her flowers after paying the company portion. The nightclub asked her to chase her own portion. The uncle told her if she want the flower money she must go hotel with him but my singer refused & told she do not need his money :mad:

This is very common..... I heard this type of story....

Soon you will also rec'd her sms about 订台，什么秀。。等等。。。
then you will come and tell all the bro here ... you also give up...
cos... she will not go to HOTEL with you.... hahaha........:rolleyes:

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

It is true. She told me if the customers is so hard up why dun they go Geylang straight to get what they want. She said she is not oblige to go hotels with them even they hanged thousands of dollars on her. She rather dun earn their money.

So why are you still hanging for her? :D
Waiting for kum-ching to develop? :p
You support her cos of her singing and sweet voice? ;)

A Singer is nothing more than just an ordinary person on the road if not for her customers and their support!

[alan0338]

It is true. She told me if the customers is so hard up why dun they go Geylang straight to get what they want. She said she is not oblige to go hotels with them even they hanged thousands of dollars on her. She rather dun earn their money.

tis sentence sure will set ur mind running wild especially those with soft hearts ... :D

[alan0338]

So why are you still hanging for her? :D
Waiting for kum-ching to develop? :p
You support her cos of her singing and sweet voice? ;)

A Singer is nothing more than just an ordinary person on the road if not for her customers and their support!

maybe scared his investments and efforts wasted lor ... :D

[teebs_darklord]

maybe scared his investments and efforts wasted lor ... :D

Errrr...me thought me read he only hang $200??? Or he hang more than that already???:D

[Loving_Dickhead]

This one I fully understand. Of course $200 buy nothing in real world for the singers. 订台，秀 等等 I can support temporary only :D

btw .. my singer told me that earlier an uncle customer withdrawn her flowers after paying the company portion. The nightclub asked her to chase her own portion. The uncle told her if she want the flower money she must go hotel with him but my singer refused & told she do not need his money :mad:

Please lah bro, every singer got their sob stories to tell regardless how well they do.

I know of a singer who has a strong BF supporting her but she still does the lan-cheow tai-ji behind his back and not notifying her so-called "Lao-Gong". The BF is like a a farking idiot, thinking he has this chick at his beak and call. The day he found out, all hell broke loose. He parted ties with this singer and this singer goes around calling him a "smelly leg".

Sadly, there are many of such carrot-heads "Lao-Gong" around.

No matter how good you are, how generous a hanger you are; there will always be more often than none that your reputation will be tarnished by dubious joints owners, dumped singers or singers who got caught on their lan-cheow tai-ji and were terminated. These people only say you good things when they have your moolah otherwise you are just a piece of SHIT in their eyes. My apologies for the crude remarks but I hear many such comments of other patrons from singers and owners alike despite such patrons have very sound reputation in their private capacity.

Take what you hear in the night scene with a pinch of salt. They are like weak branches of a tree, sway where the wind blows.

Remember always that you are the boss of whoever you pay good money for.


Cheers,
LDH :D


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[Loving_Dickhead]

F: “老公， 我真的不想赚你的钱！”
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F: “老公，这星期五我没人 你可以来帮我定张台吗？
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M: “你不是不需要我的钱吗”
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F: “不是啦， 找不到人啦。 这也不是老公应该帮老婆的是吗？”
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M: “好！我过来帮你定台，酒你请。 花， 你可以用我的名字但是自己吊！”

哈哈哈 - no come back line·

[DO_YOU_BJ]

IS SOMEONE FUCKING HER ON MY BED?????

Ah, my dear bro, you've walked the baptism of fire.
For me, my singer will be wif me at least 5 days in the week wif at least 4 overnighters.
Also, we will always be side by side no matter wat and phone cannot be on silent or vibration mode and of cos, i know her pin number.
Next, never support any PRC once they wave bye bye to you at changi airport.
That's when all financial transactions end!
Like i always say, once they go back, you will totally be blind.
I confess, i once had a singer, from a high end joint, yes, she got a super power supporter but he's like almost 70!
I only hang max for her 20k per month and only do it when old man not around.
Best part, when she's back in PRC, i was actually humping her while she was talking on the phone wif the ah pek!
So, if i can be doin that to her, can you imagine how many are or is or has already done the same deed!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

btw .. my singer told me that earlier an uncle customer withdrawn her flowers after paying the company portion. The nightclub asked her to chase her own portion. The uncle told her if she want the flower money she must go hotel with him but my singer refused & told she do not need his money :mad:

Remember wat i told u before, wat wud u say or do if you were her?
Let me give you my 2cts worth of analysis on this crap.

She must have used some 希望 shit on Ah Pek or made a deal she has no intention to keep, so Ah Pek hang for her.
But she bang bolls, Ah Pek withdraw flowers, like I told you in a earlier post and paid company portion.
So, she wanna con old man, end up own self kenna con
骗来骗去，最后被骗得还是自己!
But wait, she still got you.
So now, she let go this SOB story to you is to:
1) Make you feel sorry for her that she kenna cheated by the Ah Pek
2) Make you feel like she damn integrity type, dun anyhow spread legs
3) Because of your liking for her, you'll feel compelled to help her
4) You might even stand on her side & say that Ah Pek is the Lan Jiao Lang!

Remember, always think of them as the worst, like that, you'll always be protected.
The moment you trust them, you're FUCKED.

Like i told a bro, who has very opposing views from me.
I am always all out to discredit anything or everything a singer says or do whereas, he'll always give them credit and benefits of doubts!
In the end, guess who has more headaches?
My that bro or me?
Hope to catch the moral of the story!

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Well say dage....they xiu target oli $1500, very easy to hit....so small joint is betther sometimes, no pressure for u. Spent 30K in a big joint and get one pussy or same amount in small joints u get more, which one is better..:D

I have been to small joints thanks to several bros n u who have brought me several times.
Yes, my reputation allows me to make kills extremely easily!
But then, i am always very tense in small joints.
Last time me & LDH was at a small joint in GL, cos bros who know us will know how we hang on a normal no stress day, come out after they close, nearly kenna hammer cos a customer keeseow because of the type of flowers n number of cannons we both put in 1 nite.
Scary shit man!
Reason: no offense to anyone, cos the patrons of small joints are on total different worlds from the patrons from the usual joints that i patronise.
So, thus, i still feel more comfortable in the regular joints that i go!

[MoralEpitome]

wah bro $150 u able to screw the singer??
Salute :)

Well maybe she is fishing for more but doesn't matter as long as I f her right? But she's getting abit on my nerves with her maybe fake love and concern on me, so I will likely ditch her once my lover from china come back

[MoralEpitome]

Bro ME, I am not giving out entertainment and what I shared is real.

Its time for me to use some KC skill like you :D

I meant it is entertaining that you share with us your experiences and much appreciated, actually this 150 singer is lucky one, cos she likes me and maybe she knows I got support singer before and can cover her target every month, but most singers I know are not so easy, I got offer singer 10k before and kena rejected so it's just part and parcel of the game, but kc only works when you are able to give her what she wish for, whether you want to or can is another story

[MoralEpitome]

I have been to small joints thanks to several bros n u who have brought me several times.
Yes, my reputation allows me to make kills extremely easily!
But then, i am always very tense in small joints.
Last time me & LDH was at a small joint in GL, cos bros who know us will know how we hang on a normal no stress day, come out after they close, nearly kenna hammer cos a customer keeseow because of the type of flowers n number of cannons we both put in 1 nite.
Scary shit man!
Reason: no offense to anyone, cos the patrons of small joints are on total different worlds from the patrons from the usual joints that i patronise.
So, thus, i still feel more comfortable in the regular joints that i go!

Yup, I agree DaGe is more suitable for big joints

[Big Foot]

This is very common..... I heard this type of story....

Soon you will also rec'd her sms about 订台，什么秀。。等等。。。
then you will come and tell all the bro here ... you also give up...
cos... she will not go to HOTEL with you.... hahaha......

I already put to a stop for my support on her... :cool:

So why are you still hanging for her?
Waiting for kum-ching to develop?
You support her cos of her singing and sweet voice?

A Singer is nothing more than just an ordinary person on the road if not for her customers and their support!

Last night is my last time I hanged for her and I intended to switch target now :p

tis sentence sure will set ur mind running wild especially those with soft hearts ...

I give up hope of bring her to hotel after she said that :o

[seabeng]

Ah, my dear bro, you've walked the baptism of fire.For me, my singer will be wif me at least 5 days in the week wif at least 4 overnighters.
Also, we will always be side by side no matter wat and phone cannot be on silent or vibration mode and of cos, i know her pin number.
Next, never support any PRC once they wave bye bye to you at changi airport.That's when all financial transactions end!
Like i always say, once they go back, you will totally be blind.
I confess, i once had a singer, from a high end joint, yes, she got a super power supporter but he's like almost 70!
I only hang max for her 20k per month and only do it when old man not around.
Best part, when she's back in PRC, i was actually humping her while she was talking on the phone wif the ah pek!
So, if i can be doin that to her, can you imagine how many are or is or has already done the same deed!

I am sad. Bro if only I got to know and read about this HFJ earlier I would have been a better man. That was my first and was painful.
Now I am indeed a better man. Tks bro.

We should united and remind and give wake up call to those that are heading into no where. But those that are in it hard for them to wake up until they are at the edge. I was like that. Now I still fxxxxxx around using what I have gone through as experience.:D:D

[Big Foot]

Please lah bro, every singer got their sob stories to tell regardless how well they do.

I know of a singer who has a strong BF supporting her but she still does the lan-cheow tai-ji behind his back and not notifying her so-called "Lao-Gong". The BF is like a a farking idiot, thinking he has this chick at his beak and call. The day he found out, all hell broke loose. He parted ties with this singer and this singer goes around calling him a "smelly leg".

Sadly, there are many of such carrot-heads "Lao-Gong" around.

No matter how good you are, how generous a hanger you are; there will always be more often than none that your reputation will be tarnished by dubious joints owners, dumped singers or singers who got caught on their lan-cheow tai-ji and were terminated. These people only say you good things when they have your moolah otherwise you are just a piece of SHIT in their eyes. My apologies for the crude remarks but I hear many such comments of other patrons from singers and owners alike despite such patrons have very sound reputation in their private capacity.

Take what you hear in the night scene with a pinch of salt. They are like weak branches of a tree, sway where the wind blows.

Remember always that you are the boss of whoever you pay good money for.


Cheers,
LDH :D


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Bro .. sorry for the late reply. I fell a sleep during late afternoon while trying to reply here due cheonging HFJ for the last few night straight.

I will not buy their sob stories. I agree that all these nightclub monkeys objective is our moolah nevertheless we are still the paymasters.

That night during PPC I threw a Big spanner into the stage that shocked some dubious monkeys :eek: after PPC they came & called me Dage :D

[Big Foot]

Remember wat i told u before, wat wud u say or do if you were her?
Let me give you my 2cts worth of analysis on this crap.

She must have used some 希望 shit on Ah Pek or made a deal she has no intention to keep, so Ah Pek hang for her.
But she bang bolls, Ah Pek withdraw flowers, like I told you in a earlier post and paid company portion.
So, she wanna con old man, end up own self kenna con
骗来骗去，最后被骗得还是自己!
But wait, she still got you.
So now, she let go this SOB story to you is to:
1) Make you feel sorry for her that she kenna cheated by the Ah Pek
2) Make you feel like she damn integrity type, dun anyhow spread legs
3) Because of your liking for her, you'll feel compelled to help her
4) You might even stand on her side & say that Ah Pek is the Lan Jiao Lang!

Remember, always think of them as the worst, like that, you'll always be protected.
The moment you trust them, you're FUCKED.

Like i told a bro, who has very opposing views from me.
I am always all out to discredit anything or everything a singer says or do whereas, he'll always give them credit and benefits of doubts!
In the end, guess who has more headaches?
My that bro or me?
Hope to catch the moral of the story!

Yes bro.. I catch it and I won't trust them at all.

[Big Foot]

I meant it is entertaining that you share with us your experiences and much appreciated, actually this 150 singer is lucky one, cos she likes me and maybe she knows I got support singer before and can cover her target every month, but most singers I know are not so easy, I got offer singer 10k before and kena rejected so it's just part and parcel of the game, but kc only works when you are able to give her what she wish for, whether you want to or can is another story

So what do your 150 singer wish for :confused:

[MoralEpitome]

So what do your 150 singer wish for :confused:

True love and someone who can take care of her needs....she told me she had a guy who part time bao yang her last time, spent about 20k on her but she only let him fug once cos no feelings....then I ask her why she let me fug when I haven't spent much on her that she said base on feelings.... hmm....after all the training from Bro BYBJ I have my doubts but no harm just enjoy first....

[Big Foot]

True love and someone who can take care of her needs....she told me she had a guy who part time bao yang her last time, spent about 20k on her but she only let him fug once cos no feelings....then I ask her why she let me fug when I haven't spent much on her that she said base on feelings.... hmm....after all the training from Bro BYBJ I have my doubts but no harm just enjoy first....

I wish for that too...true love :D

Just at 10:30pm my singer sms me to go down & see her but I told her I am very tired other days perhaps.

Hope this singer can let me fxxk even I do not spend too much her :p

[jacky chan]

I wish for that too...true love :D

Just at 10:30pm my singer sms me to go down & see her but I told her I am very tired other days perhaps.

Hope this singer can let me fxxk even I do not spend too much her :p

u CAN ALWAYS TELL HER STRAIGHT TO THE POINT, DON WASTE TIME, U KNOW WAT SHE WANT AND SHE KNOW YRS TOO. They always like to say I don know u well and need time to get along. Later all the funny funny ding tai, xiu will surface . Everything get the "deposit" first and talk later...:D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Different people different style but 1-thing will never change - Take all singers sob stories with a pitch of salt ;)

[jacky chan]

u summer holiday also log in for wat ar, enjoy there la....:D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I wish for that too...true love :D
Bro you gotta be MAD~!
Singer = 车不打油不能走
Wan true love, pls, go find normal office working women
镇常人不会走这条路的
Nothing is real in the nite scene, it's all a bot dream!

Hope this singer can let me fxxk even I do not spend too much her :p
This is where the indicators show that you already lost the battle before it even began.
You're the one who 拥抱希望!
Let it go bro, try another new one, cos this one, you lost the fight liao before anything even began.

[Big Foot]

u CAN ALWAYS TELL HER STRAIGHT TO THE POINT, DON WASTE TIME, U KNOW WAT SHE WANT AND SHE KNOW YRS TOO. They always like to say I don know u well and need time to get along. Later all the funny funny ding tai, xiu will surface . Everything get the "deposit" first and talk later...:D

Bro you gotta be MAD~!
Singer = 车不打油不能走
Wan true love, pls, go find normal office working women
镇常人不会走这条路的
Nothing is real in the nite scene, it's all a bot dream!


This is where the indicators show that you already lost the battle before it even began.
You're the one who 拥抱希望!
Let it go bro, try another new one, cos this one, you lost the fight liao before anything even began.

Bro JC & Bro DYBJ,

If she sms me again tonight, I will reply that I want her to go hotel with me. See how she respond and I will share with you all.

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

百五蚊��条歌女?
人詐傻扮懵, 你跟他傻
嘥電, 嘥氣, 嘥時間, 嘥錢, 嘥口水, 嘥心機,挨眼瞓, 盞嘥氣! :D
Note: 嘥 (saai)

[Oceanlee]

Bro JC & Bro DYBJ,

If she sms me again tonight, I will reply that I want her to go hotel with me. See how she respond and I will share with you all.

It's been longtime to be back. Somehow, the approach can be better like asking her out to have supper with you and during the supper then you drop the hint directly, from there it will be face-off. The point is dun SMS her and ask such question and give her ample time to think over.

Provide you are able to get her for supper. ;) Thus you it make you the Boss she need to earn her keep. :D

[Ice4ever]

Been chionging for the pass 2 month (everyday till 3am).... New place set up near Maude.. Damn!! Those gers there rox!!!!

[teebs_darklord]

Different people different style but 1-thing will never change - Take all singers sob stories with a pitch of salt ;)

Bro IK, only a pinch of salt meh??? I thought should be a bucket of salt???:p

[jacky chan]

ya u don hv to tell her to go directly, but can directly hint to her that she want your support, can, but she also musyt show her sincerity. If she ask how. normally I will tell them how about以身相许。If she still give stupid reason tat don know u well or bla bla bla, just ask her to go marine parade park -------go and fly kite there. Look for new target. Don give up the forest becos of one tree. Bro, big forest everywhere...:cool:

[jacky chan]

[QUOTE=DO_YOU_BJ;6249363]Bro you gotta be MAD~!
Singer = 车不打油不能走
Wan true love, pls, go find normal office working women
镇常人不会走这条路的
Nothing is real in the nite scene, it's all a bot dream!

最怕是打了油让别人驾走了

[Big Foot]

It's been longtime to be back. Somehow, the approach can be better like asking her out to have supper with you and during the supper then you drop the hint directly, from there it will be face-off. The point is dun SMS her and ask such question and give her ample time to think over.

Provide you are able to get her for supper. Thus you it make you the Boss she need to earn her keep.

Bro Oceanlee

That a nice one... how about dinner ? Then tonight I can ask her for supper I will mai chang after PPC :D

ya u don hv to tell her to go directly, but can directly hint to her that she want your support, can, but she also musyt show her sincerity. If she ask how. normally I will tell them how about以身相许。If she still give stupid reason tat don know u well or bla bla bla, just ask her to go marine parade park -------go and fly kite there. Look for new target. Don give up the forest becos of one tree. Bro, big forest everywhere...

Bro JC,

So I will tell if she still want my support she must show sincerity by 以身相许.

[jacky chan]

Wish u good luck bro, remember the whole forest is there for u..:D

[Big Foot]

Wish u good luck bro, remember the whole forest is there for u..:D

Thanks you... Bro JC

I hope to share my good news with you guys :p

[Big Foot]

Wish u good luck bro, remember the whole forest is there for u..:D

Bro ..check your inbox :D

[MoralEpitome]

I wish for that too...true love :D

Just at 10:30pm my singer sms me to go down & see her but I told her I am very tired other days perhaps.

Hope this singer can let me fxxk even I do not spend too much her :p

Can, fuck first then talk money later....my girl siao leow, say I am her lover and refuse to take money from me....am I bastard if I dump her?...I am very suspicious...abit scary actually, I rather pay and fuck....

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Can, fuck first then talk money later....my girl siao leow, say I am her lover and refuse to take money from me....am I bastard if I dump her?...I am very suspicious...abit scary actually, I rather pay and fuck....

Then everytime after u fuck her, slip 200bucks into her purse lor....so simple! Like that, u dun owe her reason liao!

[MoralEpitome]

Then everytime after u fuck her, slip 200bucks into her purse lor....so simple! Like that, u dun owe her reason liao!

haha, you know me so well da ge...I always do that...this girl is scary...she is like so nice until I feel it is fake...but she says she's like that...i is also very poilite and always drink and toast my buddies as per sop for singers...wonder if she really likes me or trying to KC me one big one...:)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

wonder if she really likes me or trying to KC me one big one...:)

Do not be in doubt!
Do not give the benefit of a doubt!
Take all these away, you already know the answer.
Singer 2 modus operandi

Pull as long as possible before giving
Give 1st pull the big big one

Either one, target still the same $$$$$$$$$$

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

A bro seek advice from me of his situation: What should he do if a few of a joint's singers wants to be "friendly" with him? Though they all are awared that he already has an "open secret" cai in the joint, (mindful of being "open secret" to his cai big supporters and several smaller ones). Each and every one of them assured that they would keep the affairs private (Hahahaha! That would be really some form of "open private" affairs ?)....Is this a trap for him? :D;)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

What shall one do if a quarter of the joint's singers wants to be "friendly" with him? Though they all are awared that he already has an "open secret" cai in the joint, (mindful of being "open secret" to his cai big supporters and several small supporters). Each and every one of them assured that they would keep the affairs private (Hahahaha! That would be really some form of "open private" affairs ?)....Is this a trap? :D;)

Singers being singers would want the whole cake to their ownselves.
They of course wouldnt mind the SECRET arrangement but rest assured, once they enter the door, they'll do watever they can to rid all other competitors or contenders out the door!

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Singers being singers would want the whole cake to their ownselves.
They of course wouldnt mind the SECRET arrangement but rest assured, once they enter the door, they'll do watever they can to rid all other competitors or contenders out the door!

Thanks Dage for advice. You are on the dot cos according to this bro, a couple of the girls are the so called "sisters" of his cai and also roommates.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Thanks Dage for advice. You are on the dot cos according to this bro, a couple of the girls are the so called "sisters" of his cai and also roommates.

Aiyah, all the same la.
When it comes to $$$$$$, sisters or seemeee lann jiao they'll all kill each other.
See until sian liao.
But if one comes for free, y not!

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Aiyah, all the same la.
When it comes to $$$$$$, sisters or seemeee lann jiao they'll all kill each other.
See until sian liao.
But if one comes for free, y not!

Roger with thanks.
Will relay advice to my bro. :D

[start2007ck]

Thanks Dage for advice. You are on the dot cos according to this bro, a couple of the girls are the so called "sisters" of his cai and also roommates.

All girls working in this line are "sisters". :D

[start2007ck]

A bro seek advice from me of his situation: What should he do if a few of a joint's singers wants to be "friendly" with him? Though they all are awared that he already has an "open secret" cai in the joint, (mindful of being "open secret" to his cai big supporters and several smaller ones). Each and every one of them assured that they would keep the affairs private (Hahahaha! That would be really some form of "open private" affairs ?)....Is this a trap for him? :D;)

It's common that one's colleague is also the competitor, so are these girls, though they call each other "sisters". The girls will always try their luck unless we never hang flower for them a few times, then they don't bother to waste time.

Occasionally heard complaint from the singers like 客人被xxx抢了... the hint is 有可怜花吗? This xxx is bad...

A girl may tell us 有几个歌星只有一个男朋友? the hint will be we can also have more than one cai, she can be one of the many our other cais.

Some HFJs may not allow 抢客人. So the girsls want it be PRIVATE. On the other hand, the girls also don't want others to know getting nothing after "以身相许".

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

It's common that one's colleague is also the competitor, so are these girls, though they call each other "sisters". The girls will always try their luck unless we never hang flower for them a few times, then they don't bother to waste time.

Occasionally heard complaint from the singers like 客人被xxx抢了... the hint is 有可怜花吗? This xxx is bad...

A girl may tell us 有几个歌星只有一个男朋友? the hint will be we can also have more than one cai, she can be one of the many our other cais.

Some HFJs may not allow 抢客人. So the girsls want it be PRIVATE. On the other hand, the girls also don't want others to know getting nothing after "以身相许".

Thanks for above. I will pass it on to my friend. ;)

Anyway I often entice singers to 抢客人 :D

[MoralEpitome]

Do not be in doubt!
Do not give the benefit of a doubt!
Take all these away, you already know the answer.
Singer 2 modus operandi

Pull as long as possible before giving
Give 1st pull the big big one

Either one, target still the same $$$$$$$$$$

Ya, decided to break off with her leow cos no feel....she is nice but no chemistry......fuck also not shoik....hehe...so will hunt for new target....

[MoralEpitome]

It's common that one's colleague is also the competitor, so are these girls, though they call each other "sisters". The girls will always try their luck unless we never hang flower for them a few times, then they don't bother to waste time.

Occasionally heard complaint from the singers like 客人被xxx抢了... the hint is 有可怜花吗? This xxx is bad...

A girl may tell us 有几个歌星只有一个男朋友? the hint will be we can also have more than one cai, she can be one of the many our other cais.

Some HFJs may not allow 抢客人. So the girsls want it be PRIVATE. On the other hand, the girls also don't want others to know getting nothing after "以身相许".

Some singers got abit more integrity and won't fight over the same customer but some fuck care and go all out to compete....but it's nice to see cat fight cos it's entertaining

[start2007ck]

Thanks for above. I will pass it on to my friend. ;)

Anyway I often entice singers to 抢客人 :D

Lol, I'm also "bad", seldom to hang 可怜花 during PPC now. Told the singers that there'll have some other customers to hang 可怜花, then they have the chance... as some joints not allowing the singers to approach the customer themselves unless led by the mgr and etc; but they're supposed to 谢花. :D

[Big Foot]

Lol, I'm also "bad", seldom to hang 可怜花 during PPC now. Told the singers that there'll have some other customers to hang 可怜花, then they have the chance... as some joints not allowing the singers to approach the customer themselves unless led by the mgr and etc; but they're supposed to 谢花. :D

I also stop hanging $100 可怜花 to singers who entertained me during PPC.

Cut losses cannot pity these singers :D

[start2007ck]

Some singers got abit more integrity and won't fight over the same customer but some fuck care and go all out to compete....but it's nice to see cat fight cos it's entertaining

Yup, there's indeed such singer -- sister's BF showing interest to her, but she refused. Sometimes, the singers may also want regulated competition -- before the customer makes a decision, everyone has the chance; otherwise, no one should approach.

It' really fun to see the dogfight -- one singer is leaving soon, two other singers already start to approach the BF... drink a lot or bring him supper :D

[showmelove]

its a dog eat dog world, and thats how they increase their income too.

btw, any bros here knows the quality of the singers at tian du cheng?

[Big Foot]

Thanks for above. I will pass it on to my friend. ;)

Anyway I often entice singers to 抢客人 :D

I realized this is quite normal especially in big joints

Yup, there's indeed such singer -- sister's BF showing interest to her, but she refused. Sometimes, the singers may also want regulated competition -- before the customer makes a decision, everyone has the chance; otherwise, no one should approach.

It' really fun to see the dogfight -- one singer is leaving soon, two other singers already start to approach the BF... drink a lot or bring him supper :D

Shall I create a dogfight between these bitches ? :D

[MoralEpitome]

I realized this is quite normal especially in big joints



Shall I create a dogfight between these bitches ? :D

Yes, let there be a cat fight...more shoik than screwing

[Alan Ong]

All girls working in this line are "sisters". :D
When one sister do show, the rest must compulsory to hang at least 200 each (company regulation), which the company will get at least 30%.

This flower is call 姐妹花 :D

[Big Foot]

Yes, let there be a cat fight...more shoik than screwing

I told my singer that her enemy did actually offered herself to me so I asked her enemy that did you have a Lao Gong or BF ?

Her enemy replied she dun know but she told me that it is definitely not worth to support you.

Next moment my singer is so furious :mad: once the night about to end these bitches are shouting at each other in their make-over rooms :D

[Big Foot]

When one sister do show, the rest must compulsory to hang at least 200 each (company regulation), which the company will get at least 30%.

This flower is call 姐妹花 :D

But some joints do not allow 姐妹花 or 姐妹花 do not count in their show target :p

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

When one sister do show, the rest must compulsory to hang at least 200 each (company regulation), which the company will get at least 30%.

This flower is call 姐妹花 :D

Yes, 姐妹花 + Book table.

I told my singer that her enemy did actually offered herself to me so I asked her enemy that did you have a Lao Gong or BF ?
Her enemy replied she dun know but she told me that it is definitely not worth to support you.
Next moment my singer is so furious :mad: once the night about to end these bitches are shouting at each other in their make-over rooms :D

OMG!!! You did that? Speechless..................................... :eek:

[Big Foot]

Yes, 姐妹花 + Book table.



OMG!!! You did that? :eek:

Nowadays most big and mid-tier joints book table must hang $300 minimum :confused:

[Big Foot]

Yes, 姐妹花 + Book table.



OMG!!! You did that? Speechless..................................... :eek:

Yes my singer really pissed me off few days ago and I had to manage my anger internally.

Instead of hanging cannon to her enemy during PPC I rather told her this piece of shits.

The next thing I knew is these bitches really screaming & yelling each other for snatching customers and asking customers not to support whoever singers until their bosses also has to step in :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

I'm more interested in the text messages and calls you be receiving in an hour or 2 :D
Good night! Only 5 hours to catch up on sleep............ :p

[Big Foot]

I'm more interested in the text messages and calls you be receiving in an hour or 2 :D
Good night! Only 5 hours to catch up on sleep............ :p

Good night.. I will update you tomorrow :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Good night.. I will update you tomorrow :D

Sob stories from A and B after last night shouting match? :D:p

[Big Foot]

Sob stories from A and B after last night shouting match?

I did not pick the any call from them but did received some nasty test messages.

It took them till morning 6am to cool down after closed shop these singers went in their groups for supper. Luckily I am sleeping liao :D

My singer said that the company now forbid their singers telling customers not to support their fellow co-workers

Anyway I have not tell my singer that I intend to kick her and I will not go to that big joint again :D

[alan0338]

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[MoralEpitome]

I told my singer that her enemy did actually offered herself to me so I asked her enemy that did you have a Lao Gong or BF ?

Her enemy replied she dun know but she told me that it is definitely not worth to support you.

Next moment my singer is so furious :mad: once the night about to end these bitches are shouting at each other in their make-over rooms :D

So entertaining not like me go China Doll, so boring....many singers kosong, then 2 singers got $100 each, and 1 ugly singer got $1000....fell asleep and went home early...where is this joint with the cat fights?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

So entertaining not like me go China Doll, so boring....many singers kosong, then 2 singers got $100 each, and 1 ugly singer got $1000....fell asleep and went home early...where is this joint with the cat fights?

Just drive away from PC along Middle road and the second joint u pass on your left....HINT! POOL!
Wahahahahaha

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

.....but did received some nasty test messages.

It took them till morning 6am to cool down after closed shop these singers went in their groups for supper. Luckily I am sleeping liao

My singer said that the company now forbid their singers telling customers not to support their fellow co-workers

Anyway I have not tell my singer that I intend to kick her - No need to tell her liao la, I think most if not all singers will see you as the Ghost Buster - 钟馗 and I will not go to that big joint again

Why am I not surprised atall ;)
Next time you can introduce yourself as :HFJ Management Consultant liao. :D

Just drive away from PC along Middle road and the second joint u pass on your left....HINT! POOL!
Wahahahahaha

Can avoid this joint liao la. :D
Wahahahahahaha :p

[MoralEpitome]

Just drive away from PC along Middle road and the second joint u pass on your left....HINT! POOL!
Wahahahahaha

Thanks! Got it....hahaha.....

Today I tried to jio this new girl I know yesterday for a screw, she asked me where's my sincerity, I asked her she wants money or love both I can give her, she said that she is not cheap and don't want money, so I said sure I give you love, she said love is for people who wants to get married and what's the chance of us getting married, so I asked her what she wants, she told me she wants to go shopping for a bao bao..i pondered....and wonder what should I do....can the gurus here advise?

[Big Foot]

Thanks! Got it....hahaha.....

Today I tried to jio this new girl I know yesterday for a screw, she asked me where's my sincerity, I asked her she wants money or love both I can give her, she said that she is not cheap and don't want money, so I said sure I give you love, she said love is for people who wants to get married and what's the chance of us getting married, so I asked her what she wants, she told me she wants to go shopping for a bao bao..i pondered....and wonder what should I do....can the gurus here advise?

I am not so sure about your case. My ex-singer told me that every month I must be able to give her a comfortable living then she follow me. Lately I found out that she instead has a Lao Gong or BF giving her monthly allowance & did not appear in her HFJ frequently :cool:

[MoralEpitome]

I am not so sure about your case. My ex-singer told me that every month I must be able to give her a comfortable living then she follow me. Lately I found out that she instead has a Lao Gong or BF giving her monthly allowance & did not appear in her HFJ frequently :cool:

yeah, from what I learn from bro dybj is make them prove them worth to you first, so after that I told her I bz and met another girl for a screw...end of the road for her...so many pussies, why limit yourself to one expensive one

[songest]

...
Today I tried to jio this new girl I know yesterday for a screw, ....... so I asked her what she wants, she told me she wants to go shopping for a bao bao..i pondered....and wonder what should I do....can the gurus here advise?

Not a guru but was reminded long time no cum here to kaypoh.
If u are keen to ... ahem... do it with her and don't mind rtf N times, then sms her

要皮包
包皮要得往外翻
翻云覆雨游巫山
包我满意才有包

Notice for the last sentence, the word 包包 is separated by 我满意才有 which means u must be sextisfied before u give, thus ensuring her service/GFE gao gao...:cool:

(Repeat above N times - interpreted as ROI of N shots for a bag, but don't give Hermes Birkin hoh :eek: )

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

I am not so sure about your case. My ex-singer told me that every month I must be able to give her a comfortable living then she follow me. Lately I found out that she instead has a Lao Gong or BF giving her monthly allowance & did not appear in her HFJ frequently :cool:

Bro Big Foot, so now you know these ghosts cannot be trusted with their sob stories :D:p

[sparky2009]

Happen to pass by Maude road at jln besar and realized many hfj around, particularly the one by the name liqing. The gals were quite sexily dressed.
Just wanting to seek bros advice if this place recommended and happening.
Have been out of action for a long time.

[Big Foot]

Bro Big Foot, so now you know these ghosts cannot be trusted with their sob stories :D:p

Yes now I know these ghosts used the same tactics to every customer to milk more money during their 6 months here.

I also noticed that some singers at least had two firm supporters that visited them regularly and each visit hanged $500.

Average gross income from flowers & mai chang for each singer in big joint is about $15,000 a month.

That good money :D

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Yes now I know these ghosts used the same tactics to every customer to milk more money during their 6 months here.

I also noticed that some singers at least had two firm supporters that visited them regularly and each visit hanged $500.

Average gross income from flowers & mai chang for each singer in big joint is about $15,000 a month.

That good money :D

Like i said, singers n us has only one line of defense against each other.
希望！
Whoever 拥抱希望looses the game.
At the end of the day, some initial $$$ has to be invested to get the cunt
Once in her pants, apply maximum kc until she feels love is real
Once she believes and starts to give out her heart, that's when u ROI, start saving tons of money, until u get sick of her meat
Try as hard as u can not to get too emotionally involved so that walking away will be a breeze!
Mind over matters my brudders, though not easy at times i must admit!

[Big Foot]

Like i said, singers n us has only one line of defense against each other.
希望！
Whoever 拥抱希望looses the game.
At the end of the day, some initial $$$ has to be invested to get the cunt
Once in her pants, apply maximum kc until she feels love is real
Once she believes and starts to give out her heart, that's when u ROI, start saving tons of money, until u get sick of her meat
Try as hard as u can not to get too emotionally involved so that walking away will be a breeze!
Mind over matters my brudders, though not easy at times i must admit!

I totally agreed with you. It is not easy to control emotionally part plus also anger management. I learnt this lesson and will come back strongly in my next singer.

Hope for better luck :p

[DO_YOU_BJ]

I totally agreed with you. It is not easy to control emotionally part plus also anger management. I learnt this lesson and will come back strongly in my next singer.

Hope for better luck :p

Bro, no offense but anger part ok, i can accept.
But the emotional part, errrr, u didnt even get to screw her yet!!

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

I agreed with Dage.
Then again we are not saint, sometime they crosses the lines too deep asnd needs to be fuck in the face.

[jacky chan]

no pain no gain,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[condy]

$15k per mth is real damn good money! Don't see their flowers little by little, add tog alot!

[Big Foot]

Bro, no offense but anger part ok, i can accept.
But the emotional part, errrr, u didnt even get to screw her yet!!

I have not screw her yet. Even I offered to give her $1000 a week plus few mai chang in a month for her to rest at hostel and hang her cannon too. She is not so tempted because there are another 2 customers that give her more than me.

Emotional part.. no problem for me. I move on for other singers.

Just take it a learning curve in HFJ... first setback is ok.

[K9696]

I agreed with Dage.
Then again we are not saint, sometime they crosses the lines too deep asnd needs to be fuck in the face.

Bro..Sheng Siong Towkay give LOBANG.. this few days up up all the way.. knn... can go and HANG few cannons liao..

few more ups.. SS become next blue chip.. hahahahaha... yahoooooo:)

song song gao julong..............

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Bro..Sheng Siong Towkay give LOBANG.. this few days up up all the way.. knn... can go and HANG few cannons liao..

few more ups.. SS become next blue chip.. hahahahaha... yahoooooo:)

Sheng Siong - All for You mah!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8E17mNmpYc

[MoralEpitome]

Not a guru but was reminded long time no cum here to kaypoh.
If u are keen to ... ahem... do it with her and don't mind rtf N times, then sms her

要皮包
包皮要得往外翻
翻云覆雨游巫山
包我满意才有包

Notice for the last sentence, the word 包包 is separated by 我满意才有 which means u must be sextisfied before u give, thus ensuring her service/GFE gao gao...:cool:

(Repeat above N times - interpreted as ROI of N shots for a bag, but don't give Hermes Birkin hoh :eek: )

Why cannot kaypo here ley? this is not a public forum huh?

No la, I am not carrot head, ask me go shopping with her first with no guarantee of screw I wun do it especially since I only know her a short time... totally ignored her leow...today my singer saw me and come and drink with me....I never reply her sms or look for her after I screw her, am I very bad? but dun know why i no desire for her ley....anyway change new target leow....going to screw her this saturday....

[junkie72]

Before even talk about hfj strategy, one should really ask why spend money at hfj

1) screw the singer??
Plenty of cheap pussies out there, so why spend premium?? because......

2) get a kick out of the gfe
here's the danger..... if one enjoys the gfe too much, one may very easily fall into the KC trap. Yes you may find a GF in hfj but the odds are really really really low. Chances of you getting all emotionally messed up and fucked up is really really really high. When one is in love with a pussy, one will not be able to play hard ball with her.... eventually she will control you instead.

3) get a kick out of controlling a pussy
OK.... this may be a valid enough reason to cheong hfj..... but one need ask a few other question

A) Do you have >20~30K a month to spend on the singer?? If yes... fine have fun. If no and you still expect the own her exclusively.... then I gotta say I look down on this cheapskate guy than the singer. No money but still want to demand this demand that, not scare sia suay?? not scare people tulan you meh??

B) Got >20K to spend and to own the pussy but do I have time to watch her every move?? If you have a day job then you can forget it. You may find yourself not able to concerntrate at work driving yourself crazy being suspicious all the time who she is messing around while you are working to earn money to pay for her monthly target, expenses etc etc. Some guys have the luxury of having unlimited moolah and not having to work or flexi working hours?? these are the one that can win in hfj!!!

To win in hfj.... you need both money and time?? Both are equally important.

C) No money but still want to play?? so how??..... my friends.... you just have to content yourself with timesharing lor. Think about it.... is there any shame in sharing a pussy?? Yes?? No?? you decide. Some guys once said that he hoped his singer will have more supporters so that he won't feel so siong!!! My reply to him..... you want other the share the cost... then be prepare to share her pussy as well!!!

Bottomline

if it just for a fuck.... please go Geylang!!!

If it for the gfe....... you are treading on thin ice

if you have money but not time or vice versa....... you will be very frustrated

if you don't have enough money...... please content yourself with timesharing!!!

[Big Foot]

My ex-singer also told that you need money & time to play this HFJ game :D

Personally I do not mind sharing a pussy because these HFJ chicken mostly has husbands or a few boyfriends back in China.

Spend wisely even we have the money :D

[Big Foot]

Apologies that I have not been monitoring the thread, been really busy.

In HFJs, consumers always lose - thats a fact.
You spent money regardless be or small - there are only 2 winners. THe HFJs owners and the singers.

Together with some esteemed bros, indivdually what we have spent is enough to open a high-class HFJ. So where did all the money went to? Who are the folks who are really happiest?

Imagine, if you are a salaried worker earning $8K a month and you spent $100/- daily to hang for a single singer. That's $3000/- per month my friends, do you get anywhere nearer to her pussy or even hold her hands or even to kiss her? You buy her a branded bag at $2+K, what do you get in return?

Even if you are a big boss earning $50K a month, likelihood you will bomb the shit out of your singer, perhaps $1K daily which translate to $30K a month. Yes, she may be yours but ... only for a moment. Can you support her lifestyle, greed and wants for the next 6 months? The well will be dried up and you will be tired. The singer will go off to another fellow, leaving you broken-hearted. Remember this, in the night scene the first person who gives his/her heart will be the first to die/lose.

I learnt my lessons the hard way. Yes, I have conquered many A-list singers but at the end of the day, so what!?! Thus far my bros, let me give you an alarming statistic despite bedding more than 20+ singers... only 1 remains true to me till today. Thats <5%... pathetically lowly driven statistic. Should I remain proud that I have screwed some of the hottest singers in Singapore? No! My money could have been done in many better ways to help others, to invest, to self-indulge in proper means.

I am also very sad to learn from some bros here that HFJs bosses resorted to fake flowers to entice customers, forced pressure on singers to con their BFs and to reach a point of physical/verbal harrassment. The HFJ scene has thoroughly degraded. I am not a saint but through my lessons plus my reputation/experience gained, I urge bros to be discerning and practice more self-control in HFJs.

If the gal has not let you fucked before, limit yourself to 5% of your monthly income to be invested on her (Ref: My sad statistic above). If she is your GF and loves you, trust me - she does not need your money.

Cheers,
LDH :D

Bro, I have to be harsh in some words but if it helps some bros here, I will do it. NO Money, do not hang. LACK of resources, do not engage. NEWBIES, do NOT drive straight in. You will lose more than your ego.


Thanks to Bro LDH :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Also need to be wary of 小人 :rolleyes:

[MoralEpitome]

Before even talk about hfj strategy, one should really ask why spend money at hfj

1) screw the singer??
Plenty of cheap pussies out there, so why spend premium?? because......

2) get a kick out of the gfe
here's the danger..... if one enjoys the gfe too much, one may very easily fall into the KC trap. Yes you may find a GF in hfj but the odds are really really really low. Chances of you getting all emotionally messed up and fucked up is really really really high. When one is in love with a pussy, one will not be able to play hard ball with her.... eventually she will control you instead.

3) get a kick out of controlling a pussy
OK.... this may be a valid enough reason to cheong hfj..... but one need ask a few other question

A) Do you have >20~30K a month to spend on the singer?? If yes... fine have fun. If no and you still expect the own her exclusively.... then I gotta say I look down on this cheapskate guy than the singer. No money but still want to demand this demand that, not scare sia suay?? not scare people tulan you meh??

B) Got >20K to spend and to own the pussy but do I have time to watch her every move?? If you have a day job then you can forget it. You may find yourself not able to concerntrate at work driving yourself crazy being suspicious all the time who she is messing around while you are working to earn money to pay for her monthly target, expenses etc etc. Some guys have the luxury of having unlimited moolah and not having to work or flexi working hours?? these are the one that can win in hfj!!!

To win in hfj.... you need both money and time?? Both are equally important.

C) No money but still want to play?? so how??..... my friends.... you just have to content yourself with timesharing lor. Think about it.... is there any shame in sharing a pussy?? Yes?? No?? you decide. Some guys once said that he hoped his singer will have more supporters so that he won't feel so siong!!! My reply to him..... you want other the share the cost... then be prepare to share her pussy as well!!!

Bottomline

if it just for a fuck.... please go Geylang!!!

If it for the gfe....... you are treading on thin ice

if you have money but not time or vice versa....... you will be very frustrated

if you don't have enough money...... please content yourself with timesharing!!!

Hmm, actually many singers nowdays really cmi, not even as chio as some of the normal ktv girls...however if you want the chio one or the more power one, likely you will have competition and you need yes both the time and firepower....anyway been out of the scene so good luck to those who like to hang flowers

[MoralEpitome]

My ex-singer also told that you need money & time to play this HFJ game :D

Personally I do not mind sharing a pussy because these HFJ chicken mostly has husbands or a few boyfriends back in China.

Spend wisely even we have the money :D

You are so generous bro big foot, if i were to spend anything more than 6k on a woman per month, I would demand for exclusivity....so cos if I am stingy and spend 1 to 3k then I would share her pussy with others

[Big Foot]

You are so generous bro big foot, if i were to spend anything more than 6k on a woman per month, I would demand for exclusivity....so cos if I am stingy and spend 1 to 3k then I would share her pussy with others

Me too ... I agree with you. In past years, 1 to 3k I prefer to use on pretty KTV girls and I am able to receive several good bonks in 81 :D

But for singers 6k a month is too little for them to consider you support 6k a month on flowers she is likely to less than 3k for 50/50 split first follow by 80/20.

Personally I think even we spend 10k a month a singer. She maybe even thinking for hooking a bigger fish :cool:

Sorry bro ... these singers are just high class prostitutes and I believe they always looking for backup in case we kick them and also they will betray us when big customers take interests in them.

I do not trust singers at all.

[MoralEpitome]

Me too ... I agree with you. In past years, 1 to 3k I prefer to use on pretty KTV girls and I am able to receive several good bonks in 81 :D

But for singers 6k a month is too little for them to consider you support 6k a month on flowers she is likely to less than 3k for 50/50 split first follow by 80/20.

Personally I think even we spend 10k a month a singer. She maybe even thinking for hooking a bigger fish :cool:

Sorry bro ... these singers are just high class prostitutes and I believe they always looking for backup in case we kick them and also they will betray us when big customers take interests in them.

I do not trust singers at all.

Yeah, definitely, I once offered this singer 10K a mth and she rejected to be exclusive to me, if these singers have a corporate rank, I think they are are VP1 or MD levels...hahahaha.....6k a mth is ok for small to medium joints I think....recession coming, pls save your bullets for a rainy day, especially to those who have not been saving up or is just a poorly paid employee like me...give up your fantansies of bonking a singer...end of the day I dun't find any difference between screwing a singing pussy or a sitting pussy...but yes we can diversify for pleasure....

[Big Foot]

Yeah, definitely, I once offered this singer 10K a mth and she rejected to be exclusive to me, if these singers have a corporate rank, I think they are are VP1 or MD levels...hahahaha.....6k a mth is ok for small to medium joints I think....recession coming, pls save your bullets for a rainy day, especially to those who have not been saving up or is just a poorly paid employee like me...give up your fantansies of bonking a singer...end of the day I dun't find any difference between screwing a singing pussy or a sitting pussy...but yes we can diversify for pleasure....

Thanks Bro ME, then tonight I will be at home waiting for Presidential Election results than hanging in HFJ and save my bullets for rainy days.

I am going out to vote now .... stay tune :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Thanks Bro ME, then tonight I will be at home waiting for Presidential Election results than hanging in HFJ and save my bullets for rainy days.

I am going out to vote now .... stay tune :D

I will wait for my new President tonight to save us from rainy days and to provide bullet to our economy
In my book, Singapore is always No.1 ! :p Pussies can wait ! I will wait for result in the room and quiz the meimeis on general knowledge of our Country. Only the right answer and guess will have flowers. :D

[Big Foot]

I will wait for my new President tonight to save us from rainy days and to provide bullet to our economy
In my book, Singapore is always No.1 ! :p Pussies can wait ! I will wait for result in the room and quiz the meimeis on general knowledge of our Country. Only the right answer and guess will have flowers. :D

Same here, my family & I voted for Tan .......

Today is a rainy day and I just received a text message from the singers and asked whether I going down to their workplace for a drink.

Well that dumb :D

[Ichigo_Kurosaki]

Deleted post..Out of topic

[MoralEpitome]

Thanks Bro ME, then tonight I will be at home waiting for Presidential Election results than hanging in HFJ and save my bullets for rainy days.

I am going out to vote now .... stay tune :D

Today I woke up early to vote cos got a date with this FJ bitch at 2pm...after I bonk her I went down for a short drink and she saw me there, but after bonking I decided to drop her becos I dun like FJ girls, is that bad of me? saw this damn chio suzhou girl and got to know her for the first time today...but this one will be difficult to conquer....hmmm...thinking of how to proceed...

[K9696]

Today I woke up early to vote cos got a date with this FJ bitch at 2pm...after I bonk her I went down for a short drink and she saw me there, but after bonking I decided to drop her becos I dun like FJ girls, is that bad of me? saw this damn chio suzhou girl and got to know her for the first time today...but this one will be difficult to conquer....hmmm...thinking of how to proceed...

1st time put 1000 note on the table.. book her... u see.. whether her eyes will follow u or not....<If no deal..>

2nd time go again.. put another 1000 note on the table again and book her...
<If no deal>

3rd time go again.. put 10,000 note on the table... book her... YOU SEE got DEAL or NO deal.................hahahahaha

[smartke]

I will wait for my new President tonight to save us from rainy days and to provide bullet to our economy
In my book, Singapore is always No.1 ! :p Pussies can wait ! I will wait for result in the room and quiz the meimeis on general knowledge of our Country. Only the right answer and guess will have flowers. :D

bro, make sure u vote for the right TAN. if not may end up with a 笨 TAN.
or worse, a 坏 TAN who will 捣 TAN and sillypore will be 完 TAN... :D

[Big Foot]

No recount please ... I am going to HFJ for a drink later :p

[batty]

Hi MoralEpitome and any bros. If that hfj girl rejected $10 000/mth from you, then how much does she earn per month? What is her minimum monthly price to be your exclusive mistress? When we hang flowers (sash) on a girl, how much of the money goes to her? Or does the full sum go to her? I notice that none of the lucky recepient girls thank us midway through her singing. Nor do they even turn to sing to us or even acknowledge us. Thank you.

[start2007ck]

bro, make sure u vote for the right TAN. if not may end up with a 笨 TAN.
or worse, a 坏 TAN who will 捣 TAN and sillypore will be 完 TAN... :D

Lol, hope this's a 好 TAN. :D

[smartke]

was '拿蛋', come '懂你蛋'.
seems not 笨蛋 nor 坏蛋.

if its a 浑蛋 & bcome '傻蛋',
better 滚蛋 b4 start to 捣蛋;
or everything 完蛋!

[MoralEpitome]

1st time put 1000 note on the table.. book her... u see.. whether her eyes will follow u or not....<If no deal..>

2nd time go again.. put another 1000 note on the table again and book her...
<If no deal>

3rd time go again.. put 10,000 note on the table... book her... YOU SEE got DEAL or NO deal.................hahahahaha


haha, ok I try, but with one less zero....will FR if I succeed....so paiseh the manager at frangrance hotel know me leow cos i bring different girl every saturday....hahahah

[MoralEpitome]

Hi MoralEpitome and any bros. If that hfj girl rejected $10 000/mth from you, then how much does she earn per month? What is her minimum monthly price to be your exclusive mistress? When we hang flowers (sash) on a girl, how much of the money goes to her? Or does the full sum go to her? I notice that none of the lucky recepient girls thank us midway through her singing. Nor do they even turn to sing to us or even acknowledge us. Thank you.

She rejected me cos she earns 20K per month. Midway though singing? no need la, let her perform properly but she should thank you after she finish singing

[Big Foot]

Did any bros here went back to China with their singer-gf when they xia dang :confused:

[dyeeng]

Did any bros here went back to China with their singer-gf when they xia dang :confused:


Yes, I did...not bad if you got one who's still know how to play the game...;)
memories...memories...some sweet some...:)

[Big Foot]

Yes, I did...not bad if you got one who's still know how to play the game...;)
memories...memories...some sweet some...:)

Bro, so you stayed in her hometown for how long there ? Which city ??

[dyeeng]

Bro, so you stayed in her hometown for how long there ? Which city ??

Up up north...for 10 days...lah...not too long...anyhow quite an experience..:)