Damages Increasing

[tittytitty]

Hi all sbf bros,

I am not sure if anyone have noticed that the damages are increasing. It is now around $110 to $120 from around $90 to $100 up.

There are more and more girls asking for $130/1/1shot.

What is worst is that some are asking for $150/1/1shot. There is one girl asking for $180/1/1shot and another one at $200/1/1shot.

So please sbf bros, I urge for all to put a stop to all these exorbitant prices. I know there are many sbf bros with much earning power but majority of the sbf bros are earning less than maybe $2500.

These girls from China are taking us as carrot heads. Please do not fall for their tricks. I see that if this trend keeps on going up, very soon many of the sbf forums will need to wank yourself away by just watching the pics in front of their PCs or watching the porn.

So let's please put a firm stop to all these price hike.;)

[rey69]

Inflation?
I saw even 1 viet FL commanding $250 for 45min, some filippino FL asking $200/90min,etc.
What is the difference between foreign imports vs locals?

[patric12]

there is a demand, supply will come.
the price is determined by market mechanism.
for PRC gal, 90-100/h and 130-150/1.5h is normal, which reflect the so-called market equilibrium if you still recall the a-level economic 101.
I do think a majority of sbf bro earns 2500 or less. If that is the monthly salary, and contributing 10% of this each week to engage ML, or FL, that is irrational at all. Better to stop.


Hi all sbf bros,

I am not sure if anyone have noticed that the damages are increasing. It is now around $110 to $120 from around $90 to $100 up.

There are more and more girls asking for $130/1/1shot.

What is worst is that some are asking for $150/1/1shot. There is one girl asking for $180/1/1shot and another one at $200/1/1shot.

So please sbf bros, I urge for all to put a stop to all these exorbitant prices. I know there are many sbf bros with much earning power but majority of the sbf bros are earning less than maybe $2500.

These girls from China are taking us as carrot heads. Please do not fall for their tricks. I see that if this trend keeps on going up, very soon many of the sbf forums will need to wank yourself away by just watching the pics in front of their PCs or watching the porn.

So let's please put a firm stop to all these price hike.;)

[GuavaJuice]

Yes I second this totally. The prices are hiking. I would never visit a FL that cost more than $120. Even if the FL price is $120 I will think very carefully and camp for FR first before booking. Gone are the days when $90-$100 can get a good PRC FL.

Worst is so many FL doing massage and HJ for $100/1/1. I don't know but doesn't sound reasonable to me at all.

[friendly]

Last Fri I kena fly aeroplane by FL in GL last minute cannot get another girl so walk into this legal house no choice need relieve pleasant surprise as $80/30 min can select slim tall pretty girl:D hahaha I can see and choose pretty girl I like then service also very good can kiss, bj, paint her until she really cum..... hehehe:p she told me her legs jelly, pussy tight fucking shiok
and boss told me take my time until cum....over 30 min nvm. I actually surrender to her quite fast 35 min......too shiok cannot hold back.
I nvr go legal house BF but now will go back again at least can choose pretty girl no PS, no fly aeroplane, can see the girls to choose.... wow

[Sen5eS]

Last Fri I kena fly aeroplane by FL in GL last minute cannot get another girl so walk into this legal house no choice need relieve pleasant surprise as $80/30 min can select slim tall pretty girl:D hahaha I can see and choose pretty girl I like then service also very good can kiss, bj, paint her until she really cum..... hehehe:p she told me her legs jelly, pussy tight fucking shiok
and boss told me take my time until cum....over 30 min nvm. I actually surrender to her quite fast 35 min......too shiok cannot hold back.
I nvr go legal house BF but now will go back again at least can choose pretty girl no PS, no fly aeroplane, can see the girls to choose.... wow

hahah nice !

[canthaveenuf]

Last Fri I kena fly aeroplane by FL in GL last minute cannot get another girl so walk into this legal house no choice need relieve pleasant surprise as $80/30 min can select slim tall pretty girl:D hahaha I can see and choose pretty girl I like then service also very good can kiss, bj, paint her until she really cum..... hehehe:p she told me her legs jelly, pussy tight fucking shiok
and boss told me take my time until cum....over 30 min nvm. I actually surrender to her quite fast 35 min......too shiok cannot hold back.
I nvr go legal house BF but now will go back again at least can choose pretty girl no PS, no fly aeroplane, can see the girls to choose.... wow

wow bro blessing in disguise. Can PM the lobang? never try legal house before. Can take time to paint pretty at I like ......:D

[friendly]

Ya lor bro canthaveenuf blessing in disguise I always paiseh go into legal house but now have another option:D pm you bro
Just finish lunch time bonk..... shit $100 wasted this girl Kitty rush rush me 30 min fast food as she has another customer waiting

[dude head]

Last Fri I kena fly aeroplane by FL in GL last minute cannot get another girl so walk into this legal house no choice need relieve pleasant surprise as $80/30 min can select slim tall pretty girl:D hahaha I can see and choose pretty girl I like then service also very good can kiss, bj, paint her until she really cum..... hehehe:p she told me her legs jelly, pussy tight fucking shiok
and boss told me take my time until cum....over 30 min nvm. I actually surrender to her quite fast 35 min......too shiok cannot hold back.
I nvr go legal house BF but now will go back again at least can choose pretty girl no PS, no fly aeroplane, can see the girls to choose.... wow



haha bro also share with me.. i always follow your choice of girl one. :D

[bupianren]

Yes, i am third to this. Not only the price is getting higher but the timing getting lesser. FL is either hurry you or give rush service. Now it seems like for an hour they will make 2 to 3 booking, and make bro cum as fast as possible. All in 20 mins now. I kanna a few in the last few days. One fly me aeroplane said customer come late than another one is there waiting, what about me with the same timing?! KNN.
So LL go for others. This one (so call the 38F, picture looks good but she is so fat with at least 4 layers of tummy fats) though normal service but hurry u to enter and 2 mins say pain and no more FJ but do HJ. When I come down in about 25 min, another bro went up.
Than go back to my old time mate (36E) she is also telling me that they now aim at 20 mins per customer. So that they will make more which is 3 times more!! KNN And try to sayang you say come next time i will sure give u full hour blar blar all kind of shit story. My this old time mate was saying her previous house mate now shift to china town is so fat old and urgly charge at 80, receive 20 customer last weekend!! This FL tactic was hide herself behind the door and close and lock the door so sillypor bro LL just fire and go. Though my this FB is good looking she dont even able to get 20 customer per day, NB 20x80= 1600 !! KNS ! What to say our sillypore bro just too kind hearted. NB must as well go legal house better.

[canthaveenuf]

Ya lor bro canthaveenuf blessing in disguise I always paiseh go into legal house but now have another option:D pm you bro
Just finish lunch time bonk..... shit $100 wasted this girl Kitty rush rush me 30 min fast food as she has another customer waiting

At the rate FL2 is going with the inexplicable sky high pricing and sliding quality of the gals, I think one day maybe really need to go legal.

Btw which kitty?

http://www.sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=513637&highlight=kitty

Or

http://www.sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=510735&highlight=kitty

I hope not the second one. :D

[Marlborolights]

Not to be nasty but if you can't afford it then find other cheaper alternatives. You pay a price for quality. I used to pay like $150-$180 6-7 years ago and now I'm not complaining for the price hike but I am complaining that even at such prices, still use photoshop pictures to con people. The last bonk I had was in Dec, knn picture show this but go there OMFG!

[ahkok00]

Ya lor bro canthaveenuf blessing in disguise I always paiseh go into legal house but now have another option:D pm you bro
Just finish lunch time bonk..... shit $100 wasted this girl Kitty rush rush me 30 min fast food as she has another customer waiting

Sounds good .. PM me too :D

[wartotal]

At the rate FL2 is going with the inexplicable sky high pricing and sliding quality of the gals, I think one day maybe really need to go legal.

Btw which kitty?

http://www.sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=513637&highlight=kitty

Or

http://www.sammyboyforum.nl/showthread.php?t=510735&highlight=kitty

I hope not the second one. :D

the first one looks much nicer personally

[friendly]

Bro canthaveenuf
The 2nd thread Kitty by TS maxz damn shit fast food hurry hurry and show face:mad:
Girls quality so bad now must expand my options.....haha go back to basic hunting;)

[canthaveenuf]

the first one looks much nicer personally

Hmmm not so sure though. Saw her body pic before. I remember got tummy one. Unless u dun mind of cos.

[loneyheart]

When a FL show up w more then 2 threads w diff TSs I nom will skip
Sign of fast food quick job ... think of how much she pay for advertise already if not how to recover
Sad to say now SBF full of repeating FLs w diff TSs ... when u scroll down keep seeing same same ... sian
Just dum worth yr $$$ to take t risk for t svs

[canthaveenuf]

When a FL show up w more then 2 threads w diff TSs I nom will skip
Sign of fast food quick job ... think of how much she pay for advertise already if not how to recover
Sad to say now SBF full of repeating FLs w diff TSs ... when u scroll down keep seeing same same ... sian
Just dum worth yr $$$ to take t risk for t svs

Very true. That's why sometimes I also hold back dun dare to try. But most times the small head make the decision. Then end up regret. :D

[Sen5eS]

Bro canthaveenuf
The 2nd thread Kitty by TS maxz damn shit fast food hurry hurry and show face:mad:
Girls quality so bad now must expand my options.....haha go back to basic hunting;)

The 2nd Kitty by TS Maxz ? Ok ... thanks for update. Confirmed Crossing out.

When a FL show up w more then 2 threads w diff TSs I nom will skip
Sign of fast food quick job ... think of how much she pay for advertise already if not how to recover
Sad to say now SBF full of repeating FLs w diff TSs ... when u scroll down keep seeing same same ... sian
Just dum worth yr $$$ to take t risk for t svs

If what you see is not what you get, then just keep your 2IC in your pants and money in ya wallet.

[gimmeporn]

With PRC fls commanding 150 now I'm better off getting Ang mos for that price. Ok not that Ang mos are really better anyway....

[canthaveenuf]

The 2nd Kitty by TS Maxz ? Ok ... thanks for update. Confirmed Crossing out.


Yup, me too. Training my radar on other targets liao. ;)

[furyblaze]

With all those bad bonk around, I starting to miss kissing fish sherry Mei mei anyone know if she still around?
Lost her contact when I lost my phone.

[mazda0116]

Not only has the price increased, but the service standard has dropped so much. Missed those days where we can get $60 for 2 shots with 2hrs, thou not inclusive of room but with hotel at $20 or $30, still lesser than most of the present ones, $100 up. :mad:

[ConnerDoReMe]

Gone were the days with quality ft fl at economical rates.. Sometimes gfe.... Now too into improving their "productivity" haha

[loneyheart]

If situation continue n price keep going up w quick job ... may shift to legal house .... seen like WH PRCs getting HOT .... see t TCSS in GL threads ..... 90% can french n paint too n no quick job ... price 80 to 150 for 30min to 45min

[callmechung]

If situation continue n price keep going up w quick job ... may shift to legal house .... seen like WH PRCs getting HOT .... see t TCSS in GL threads ..... 90% can french n paint too n no quick job ... price 80 to 150 for 30min to 45min

That's my wondering. If the WL are costing $80 and above for one shot, why don't I go to a legal house. It's legal, constant STD checking and most importantly, you see the girl before you pay.

[anime83]

IMO, engaging PRC in fl2 is just a bloody waste of time and money, whether its $80-$150, lower or higher.. Too many shit FLs.. Out of 10, say only 1 or 2 bonks is satisfactory. Might as well engage korean FL(220-250 range), more or less sextisfaction guaranteed and in 5 star hotel somemore.

My advice to all samsters is to move to other playground e.g. legal house. Let the current FL2 fall or fail (the sooner the better) and only return when things turn better.

[MacBro2007]

When a FL show up w more then 2 threads w diff TSs I nom will skip
Sign of fast food quick job ... think of how much she pay for advertise already if not how to recover
Sad to say now SBF full of repeating FLs w diff TSs ... when u scroll down keep seeing same same ... sian
Just dum worth yr $$$ to take t risk for t svs

:p:p
thx , reply pm

[canthaveenuf]

Never been to a legal house before. Maybe should seriously try it out. Rising prices and lowering quality in FL2 ....... just doesn't make much sense ........

[GourangaPizza]

Never been to a legal house before. Maybe should seriously try it out. Rising prices and lowering quality in FL2 ....... just doesn't make much sense ........

First time you would be nervous and shy, but you will get over it quickly on your subsequent visits... everybody goes there for the same reason, nobody's judging nobody.

Whatsmore, you can test your chemistry with girl by talking to her before choosing her: better chemistry = better sex. Best of all, rush service is unlikely since OKTs are always there to ensure gd svc.:D

[sporeknight76]

Not to be nasty but if you can't afford it then find other cheaper alternatives. You pay a price for quality. I used to pay like $150-$180 6-7 years ago and now I'm not complaining for the price hike but I am complaining that even at such prices, still use photoshop pictures to con people. The last bonk I had was in Dec, knn picture show this but go there OMFG!

Yup. Totally agree wif u. Used to b 60/2/2. But MILF la. But fig ok, face still ok. Those days they stay in those "top below beds" meaning 1 rm 6-10pax with a few double beds. Rents was so cheap abt 10$ per day. But no security la, mus take gd care of their own belongings. Hotel pay by customers. Those areas I knw of is B n G area. If u guys knw wat I referring to.

Hwever times chg. NW their lodgings is at hdbs, condos n even landed property! Range bet 80$ - 120$ per day. Their advertisements are ranged 400$ at least, depending on hw many sites. So in order to earn a profit after deducting the base expenses - rents, food, hp, advertising, they hav to earn at least min 500$ per day. NT to forget their air tickets n some of them boro $ from their country wif interests. To sell their body, they also expect to earn abt 500-1k per day. If NT come here for wat???

After saying all tis, NW we knw y we r being charged so damn bloody high. So fellow bros, pls take care of yr own wallet n don pay so high for lousy svc n quality. I m sure bros here most would NT mind paying 150-200 for a svc. But if pics r PS, FLs r old ugly, svc r lousy, r our $ well spent? No one wana b treated like a carrot head, esp most of us r well-educated. We knw wat we wan. The okts behind the scenes r actually making tons of $ from both the FLs n us. 1-2 years ago, 1 pretty FL told me she jus barely break even. I was so surprised. Wat abt those averag ones?

So bros pls think carefully. Don hesitate to rej a FL if she fail to prov gd svc or NT same s pics. We mus show them we mean business. We wan svc n quality.

[hubber]

apart from increasing prices, the trend is also having more FL doing massage only.. wtf chop carrot head

[rolandpek86]

bro care to share the place

[powerkid]

Nowadays you won't be able to see any negative FRs because all the negative FRs will be deleted away. Better don't waste your hard earn money.

[hornyguy69]

Bro not only the price is increasing. the quality and services of the girls are also dropping like fk

[larue]

We have all seen this coming for a long time.

Singapore is no longer the attraction it once was for China ladies wanting to make money. The gap between the economies has been narrowing.

Government policies haven't helped us tiko bros either. For many China girls now, the reward of coming here (if they can get past ICA in the first place) is no longer large enough to compensate for the risk.

Now we pay too much for too little. It really is the end, and I don't see how we can ever go back to the 'heaven it was for everyone'.

I will always remember the 2009-2011 period, and am glad I fucked so many of them then. There was literally one to fuck at every turn, at any time, at any place.

Good quality ones, in terms of appearance at least if not so much attitude. Now pretty much neither exist.

Those happy days then, now its nothing but fear and loathing.

[friendly]

Bros I think one of the biggest difference now compared with the past is that the success rate to find a good bonk has reduced due to bros reluctant/lazy to share good/ bad bonks.
Good ones are not encouraged /rewarded with more business and lousy ones continue to cheat bros cause nobody expose them. Bros Ask yourself When was the last time you write a FR? Good or bad

[furyblaze]

I guess we have to go jb instead any bros going can jio me go also :D

[Lenghtyshot]

Who knows maybe some of these r run by our Millions dollar payroll PAPies MPs.
That's explain the hike.

[larue]

Bros I think one of the biggest difference now compared with the past is that the success rate to find a good bonk has reduced due to bros reluctant/lazy to share good/ bad bonks.
Good ones are not encouraged /rewarded with more business and lousy ones continue to cheat bros cause nobody expose them. Bros Ask yourself When was the last time you write a FR? Good or bad

Wrote an FR last week, got taken down on the same day. Happens a lot.

Truth is, there's pretty much nothing good to write about nowadays. OKT's now making stuff up completely.

Want honest FRs from bros and OKTs? It will almost all be bad. There's very little good stuff to write about, so nobody writes anymore.

Quality is simply not heading to our shores anymore.

[sporeknight76]

Lol..... nowadays, thing changed, bonking cost so high liao, a couple of years ago, only 70 to 120 max. Now, become 100 to 180, some even asking for 200. How should ppl like me survive? Service oso no gurantee. Got bro suggest go geylang. long time nv go liao. How is there? Heard there business not so good well. Haiz.............

Yup, agreed. A few years ago, abt 2011-12, gt china FLs in wechat. 100/2/60min. Pic damn pretty. Don giv hp. Agreed Mt outside hotel to verify. No harm. When Mt up, whoa! Really pretty, gt ht n face sweet. 100/2/60min damn worth it. Btw, bro my standard is v high hor. At B area. On her twice. Then she left here le. She say she wont b cming bk, most like don earn much. Wif her tis type of quality? Most likely middleman here n china, take a big share of their profit.

Nwadys 150-180, no guarantee wyciwyg, NT to mention svc. Most PS or take other website pics. I knw a few FLs oledi left, but pics still there. Tats y NW we mus do our own research v carefully. Mines r everywhere, ez to step on 1. :)

[IRON]

Sick and tired of all this FL nowaday:-
01) Commercial and Rush Job
02) Aeroplane often no professional attics.
03) Picture too heavily Photoshop
04) Over Price.
05) Take thing for granted.
For me no more mood or craving like before.
Patron time reduce alot. Exploring new playground.
Send a signal to them we are not idiot.

[Lenghtyshot]

Still miss those day to hunt around at G area.
All PRCs lining up along the streets to choose from..
Those good stuff ve to wait at the lobby to hijack..

And dun know since when Korean price shoot to $220 to $350.
Used to be only $160-$180.

Now Viet command about $200 and up.

Looks like we have to cut down on this hobby already.

Tks to our government tat makes us the most expensive city to live in.
Maybe now, we are the most expensive City to ve a fuck.!

[canthaveenuf]

Bros I think one of the biggest difference now compared with the past is that the success rate to find a good bonk has reduced due to bros reluctant/lazy to share good/ bad bonks.
Good ones are not encouraged /rewarded with more business and lousy ones continue to cheat bros cause nobody expose them. Bros Ask yourself When was the last time you write a FR? Good or bad

Hainz ....... some things will not change and will only get worst. OKTs/TSes (most of them anyway) will continue to advertise their gals until got dragon got tiger. The gals (most of them anyway) will continue to cheat and short change us paying customers.

The supply will always be there. The demand will also not die .....

So, the cycle repeats itself ..... Quality will continue to drop while price will continue to rise ......

So, what can we do? Precious little unless we all dun cheong, then, there will be no demand. Impossible. So, the next best thing to do is to help one another.

I totally agree with bro Friendly. Post your FR and share your experience. Good or bad never mind. Good gals we will continue to support. Bad apples we all siam. Very simple really. If everybody do your part.

[friendly]

Agree agree bro canthaveenuf always follow your FR found some good bonks avoided some bad ones:D Lets hope all bros start to share FR then united we can help each other

[canthaveenuf]

Agree agree bro canthaveenuf always follow your FR found some good bonks avoided some bad ones:D Lets hope all bros start to share FR then united we can help each other

Haha, but having said that, we still need commandos to help out too. Else forever camping ..... hee hee. :D

[friendly]

Ya lor bro can..... all campers need to take turns to commando ma :D

[loneyheart]

Why now Damages Increasing n SVS fm Bad to Worst ?? ... We made it happened YES we r t 1 tats to b blame ... When we meet up n what we see is NOT what u get we still quietly go for it n only post here to kpkb end up OKTs deleted yr post .... So they get away n think its OK tats SGman weakness n spread msg among all their sisters w OKTs help ... do u think they can do this in HK TW or PRC ?? I wonder ... If a FL is good no need to has more then 2 threads / OKTs as RTF regulars can keep them busy for more then 10 customers per days ... go thru fm pg1 to pg4 how many repeated face u see !! tats it .... Go read up in GL Sectors 120 n 150 can get a good svs w a chio babe anytime n OKTs very strict on their svs .... Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :( Sorri Good Old only bring back yr Dream even some good samsters had disappeared

[Sen5eS]

well if service / quality continues to drop ... complaints keep coming in ... then no point going back to FL2 :)

[gnuru]

FL2 dead to me now.

Whole point for me was find locations, $120, unlimited shot.

Now I pay less at GL for legal WL, nice room, no threat of Vice bust, less risk of disease.

What point of FL2?

None!

[gnuru]

Maybe time for Sammyboy forum to step in?

Why do OKT have privilege to delete bad reviews of WL?

If they have nothing to hide then why get access to delete?

[Revelations]

Why now Damages Increasing n SVS fm Bad to Worst ?? ... We made it happened YES we r t 1 tats to b blame ... When we meet up n what we see is NOT what u get we still quietly go for it n only post here to kpkb end up OKTs deleted yr post .... So they get away n think its OK tats SGman weakness n spread msg among all their sisters w OKTs help ... do u think they can do this in HK TW or PRC ?? I wonder ... If a FL is good no need to has more then 2 threads / OKTs as RTF regulars can keep them busy for more then 10 customers per days ... go thru fm pg1 to pg4 how many repeated face u see !! tats it .... Go read up in GL Sectors 120 n 150 can get a good svs w a chio babe anytime n OKTs very strict on their svs .... Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :( Sorri Good Old only bring back yr Dream even some good samsters had disappeared

I wanted to comment but bro lonelyheart said exactly what's on my mind.

We are to blame!!! We ourselves created this vulnerable situation. And okts/fls/mls are just exploiting and profiting from it!

Price increase? Yet bros still go find them. Picture fake? Yet bros just guai guai continue with the session. FL double book and make you wait? Yet bros guai guai wait.

Look at the massage section. MLs charging $100 for a non-descript massage and just one HJ... yet still many bros happy!!! $100 for one HJ??!!! that's bloody ridiculous, but still got good business. So if there's opportunity to make money, why not? Honestly, wouldn't you?

We created this situation, and it looks like it's here to stay.

For me, I'll just stick to my disciplines.
1. For FLs - milf not more than $90, syt not more than $100... preferably with cim
2. For MLs - milf not more than $90, syt not more than $100... MUST have 2 HJs
3. If FL or ML doesn't keep to scheduled time, I wait max 10mins, and I leave. No ifs, no buts, I'm gone. She can call and apologise, give me all sorts of excuses and beg me to come back, I won't ! Cos chances are her work ethic suck and you will have paid good money for a horrible time.
4. If FL or ML call or sms to reschedule time, I will cancel.
5. If ML or FL different from website pictures, I leave immediately. No ifs, no buts.
6. If FL or ML is rude or impatient on the phone or sms, I wIl strike her off my to do list.

These are some of my disciplines, cos remember, I don't need them as much as they need me. There's always legal thais in GL, petain, my regulars or xhamster , hahaha

I have kept to my disciplines... and so far in the last few years, I'm been happy at least 90% of the time.

Good luck

[Revelations]

Why[B]Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :( Sorri Good Old only bring back yr Dream even some good samsters had disappeared

Yep, he used to be a good , reliable bro... now he's nothing more than an okt runner. Sad..

Noticed a few other veteran bros have also become turncoats ... sigh.

[canthaveenuf]

Why now Damages Increasing n SVS fm Bad to Worst ?? ... We made it happened YES we r t 1 tats to b blame ... When we meet up n what we see is NOT what u get we still quietly go for it n only post here to kpkb end up OKTs deleted yr post .... So they get away n think its OK tats SGman weakness n spread msg among all their sisters w OKTs help ... do u think they can do this in HK TW or PRC ?? I wonder ... If a FL is good no need to has more then 2 threads / OKTs as RTF regulars can keep them busy for more then 10 customers per days ... go thru fm pg1 to pg4 how many repeated face u see !! tats it .... Go read up in GL Sectors 120 n 150 can get a good svs w a chio babe anytime n OKTs very strict on their svs .... Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :( Sorri Good Old only bring back yr Dream even some good samsters had disappeared

一针见血.

Sadly, I am guilty of continuing to pay the FL/ML even if 货不对板. Guilty as charged !!! Must learn the art of refusing with a steel heart. Need to 铁石心肠.

Hard to do !!!! Hee hee.

Yes, also agree, generally if gal advertised on many webs, likely not good. Alarm bells must start ringing liao. There are exceptions though. Conversely, many gals with one thread are also fly-by-night operation.

Bro, who is that famous TS who returned?

[anime83]

I am glad that I have not chiong any PRC in this Doom for many months. KPKB no use one. This has been going on for a few years liao.As advised by senior samsters, we must take concrete actions so that the situation can be changed.

Right now I only surf 1 or 2 OKT web/thread whom I think its okay. If there is none that suit me, I will just spend my money elsewhere.

REMEMBER NEVER GIVE ANY BUSINESS TO DISHONEST OKTs (even though they may have 1 or 2 good FL) AND THOSE SHIT FLs. THat's what I do !!

[anime83]

I wanted to comment but bro lonelyheart said exactly what's on my mind.

We are to blame!!! We ourselves created this vulnerable situation. And okts/fls/mls are just exploiting and profiting from it!

Price increase? Yet bros still go find them. Picture fake? Yet bros just guai guai continue with the session. FL double book and make you wait? Yet bros guai guai wait.

Look at the massage section. MLs charging $100 for a non-descript massage and just one HJ... yet still many bros happy!!! $100 for one HJ??!!! that's bloody ridiculous, but still got good business. So if there's opportunity to make money, why not? Honestly, wouldn't you?

We created this situation, and it looks like it's here to stay.

For me, I'll just stick to my disciplines.
1. For FLs - milf not more than $90, syt not more than $100... preferably with cim
2. For MLs - milf not more than $90, syt not more than $100... MUST have 2 HJs
3. If FL or ML doesn't keep to scheduled time, I wait max 10mins, and I leave. No ifs, no buts, I'm gone. She can call and apologise, give me all sorts of excuses and beg me to come back, I won't ! Cos chances are her work ethic suck and you will have paid good money for a horrible time.
4. If FL or ML call or sms to reschedule time, I will cancel.
5. If ML or FL different from website pictures, I leave immediately. No ifs, no buts.
6. If FL or ML is rude or impatient on the phone or sms, I wIl strike her off my to do list.

These are some of my disciplines, cos remember, I don't need them as much as they need me. There's always legal thais in GL, petain, my regulars or xhamster , hahaha

I have kept to my disciplines... and so far in the last few years, I'm been happy at least 90% of the time.

Good luck

Also get another prepaid card. After you make appt with the FL (Iincluding those only on 1 thread),use that to fix another appt say 20-40min later. If she reply can or ok, you can tell her to fly kite, which i did in the past. Its much cheaper, save you time and money than to bonk a bad FL who rush you like mad..

[ilmg]

Also get another prepaid card. After you make appt with the FL (Iincluding those only on 1 thread),use that to fix another appt say 20-40min later. If she reply can or ok, you can tell her to fly kite, which i did in the past. Its much cheaper, save you time and money than to bonk a bad FL who rush you like mad..

wah bro... i like this idea...
for me i gave up on dome2 liao... now just go for HC/MP or dome1/3... just not worth the effort...

[Lanmianbao]

Just patronized a 130/1shot girl who looked really tasty in the pictures ... But only 60% look alike with those photos shown by ts ... Worse case is it seems the girl had double booking at the same time ... The phone ringing non stop during the action n the girl picked up the phone and apologize to another bro ... Which is really turn me off.... And very rushy service .... It's not abt the price sometimes , but if we pay $130 , can we get the service that worth for the price ?? Hopefully the okt can be more honest by not putting the fake or modded photos lar ... And do try their best to do the QC when the price is increasing yet the customers getting these lousy service for such a high price

[sunny5183]

Don't know since when I had already lost hope and confident in FL2. Few experiences already enough to prove that FL2 not worth the $$$. Girl quality and service all not standard. I rather go to hunt at FL1 or FL3. If want PRC just to GL, better quality.

[anime83]

wah bro... i like this idea...
for me i gave up on dome2 liao... now just go for HC/MP or dome1/3... just not worth the effort...

Me also not into FL 2 for long time liao.. Same as u, have moved on.. except not into dome 1

[anime83]

Hopefully the okt can be more honest by not putting the fake or modded photos lar ... And do try their best to do the QC when the price is increasing yet the customers getting these lousy service for such a high price

You think OKT will bother?

[anime83]

Got zapped and guess it's from those dishonest OKT. Anyway cant be bothered about points and they can zap till kingdom come lor..

[tittytitty]

Just patronized a 130/1shot girl who looked really tasty in the pictures ...Worse case is it seems the girl had double booking at the same time ... And very rushy service .... It's not abt the price sometimes , but if we pay $130 , can we get the service that worth for the price ?? Hopefully the okt can be more honest by not putting the fake or modded photos lar ... And do try their best to do the QC when the price is increasing

Why now Damages Increasing n SVS fm Bad to Worst ?? ... We made it happened YES we r t 1 tats to b blame ... When we meet up n what we see is NOT what u get we still quietly go for it n only post here to kpkb end up OKTs deleted yr post .... So they get away n think its OK tats SGman weakness n spread msg among all their sisters w OKTs help ... ... If a FL is good no need to has more then 2 threads / OKTs as RTF regulars can keep them busy for more then 10 customers per days Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :(


Well said bros and also kudos to all bros who have commented on this thread.

Bro Lanmianbao, I think the girl u had for $130 should be the same girl that I commented on after reading many FRs from bros who have patronized her and the feedbacks were all negative. I have not patronized her thus far because of bad experiences from lots of PRC girls.

Funny thing is that many carrot heads (robert) bros here in sbf are disgracing us here. I did comment what I felt and ended up being zapped from 20 points to -10 points (a total of 30 points). And many of these bros not only are carrot heads but also cowards without the guts to own up they are the ones who zapped me. Instead they ranted at me that I am trying to kill off their livelihood. These dirty bitches are the ones who are trying to smash their own rice bowls. I think those who zapped me previously must be either those runners for OKTs or they are those bros who kanna 'gong tao' by these dirty bitches that they cannot think right.

Bro loneyheart, I fully agree with what you said. Because of these idiots who go around supporting all these dirty bitches that we are getting bad services and also have to face their lousy attitudes. Gone are those days where we have Pan Pan (Christine), An Qi (aka Sandra Bullock) and also the super hot Xue Er. I miss the time and the excellent services they provide especially Pan Pan. As a senior here in sbf, I bet u have heard/tried their excellent services and good attitudes right.;)

[tittytitty]

Just patronized a 130/1shot girl who looked really tasty in the pictures ... But only 60% look alike with those photos shown by ts ... Worse case is it seems the girl had double booking at the same time ... The phone ringing non stop during the action n the girl picked up the phone and apologize to another bro ... Which is really turn me off.... And very rushy service .... It's not abt the price sometimes , but if we pay $130 , can we get the service that worth for the price ?? Hopefully the okt can be more honest by not putting the fake or modded photos lar ... And do try their best to do the QC when the price is increasing yet the customers getting these lousy service for such a high price

Why now Damages Increasing n SVS fm Bad to Worst ?? ... We made it happened YES we r t 1 tats to b blame ... When we meet up n what we see is NOT what u get we still quietly go for it n only post here to kpkb end up OKTs deleted yr post .... So they get away n think its OK tats SGman weakness n spread msg among all their sisters w OKTs help ... do u think they can do this in HK TW or PRC ?? I wonder ... If a FL is good no need to has more then 2 threads / OKTs as RTF regulars can keep them busy for more then 10 customers per days ... go thru fm pg1 to pg4 how many repeated face u see !! tats it .... Go read up in GL Sectors 120 n 150 can get a good svs w a chio babe anytime n OKTs very strict on their svs .... Do u think we still can bring bk t good old days here in FL 2 ?? After I saw a Very long lost trusted famous TS returned but changed to wat his intro now :( Sorri Good Old only bring back yr Dream even some good samsters had disappeared


Well said bros and also kudos to all bros who have commented on this thread.

Bro Lanmianbao, I think the girl u had for $130 should be the same girl that I commented on after reading many FRs from bros who have patronized her and the feedbacks were all negative. I have not patronized her thus far because of bad experiences from lots of PRC girls.

Funny thing is that many carrot heads (robert) bros here in sbf are disgracing us here. I did comment what I felt and ended up being zapped from 20 points to -10 points (a total of 30 points). And many of these bros not only are carrot heads but also cowards without the guts to own up they are the ones who zapped me. Instead they ranted at me that I am trying to kill off their livelihood. These dirty bitches are the ones who are trying to smash their own rice bowls. I think those who zapped me previously must be either those runners for OKTs or they are those bros who kanna 'gong tao' by these dirty bitches that they cannot think right.

Bro loneyheart, I fully agree with what you said. Because of these idiots who go around supporting all these dirty bitches that we are getting bad services and also have to face their lousy attitudes. Gone are those days where we have Pan Pan (Christine), An Qi (aka Sandra Bullock) and also the super hot Xue Er. I miss the time and the excellent services they provide especially Pan Pan. As a senior here in sbf, I bet u have heard/tried their excellent services and good attitudes right.;)

[Sen5eS]

when the buying stops ... so will the killing ...

[loneyheart]

一针见血.

Sadly, I am guilty of continuing to pay the FL/ML even if 货不对板. Guilty as charged !!! Must learn the art of refusing with a steel heart. Need to 铁石心肠.

Hard to do !!!! Hee hee.

Yes, also agree, generally if gal advertised on many webs, likely not good. Alarm bells must start ringing liao. There are exceptions though. Conversely, many gals with one thread are also fly-by-night operation.

Bro, who is that famous TS who returned?

Bro u dum need to b 铁石心肠 just need to b 舍得放下 n 123
If meet see look diff cmi ... svs start chu pattern this no tat no but action not start yet ... dress up go go go n 123
1 reject n off u go wo paying a single penny... as she never fulfill t written contract started ( But if u started to F sorri u must pay full )

2 Always standby 2nd ctc n proceed to plan B... n sua sua still fail

3 GL 100 to 150 go go go

B4 n avoid u need to use t abv ... do yr searching 1st follow by call or sms to test water n confirmed t must hv tat u want ... ex frenching n painting n is web pic is actual babe ... if yes n turned out no she has no excuse to kpkb when u reject wo a penny

bro as for yr last Q ... dum matter now as he cant b wat he used to b ... we hv to move on
If they cant change ... we change ... 山不转。。人转。。见风转舵。。那边花香那边迎。。别为臭花强扑鼻

[M0ntblanc]

Now you all know why so many okt especially fl dome 2 are getting caught by av... Simple reasons when okt put fake pic, customers aka us get cheated... Den we bei song and some even dulan till report av and up lorry the okt n girls... :p

[Sen5eS]

Now you all know why so many okt especially fl dome 2 are getting caught by av... Simple reasons when okt put fake pic, customers aka us get cheated... Den we bei song and some even dulan till report av and up lorry the okt n girls... :p

hahaha it's a possible theory.

[dancetoo]

So agree!

If they put fake pic, you think they gonna give you services as per describe?
Please SG bro, wake up and think!
Walk away. and if no plan B, legal house in GL many many.
It's not as if the FL are 50% off, some are even more expensive than legal!
So why see nice picture online and all kenna con by it???

We SG bro are all being mock by the Chinese and Taiwanese and Hongkies by being a carrot head.

I ever slam hotel door in china when a WeChat gal arrive not looking like the picture.
I have asked her 5 times, real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes.
Let her curse and swear outside my door. Then I change room. :D
China people will lie without remorse.

One more thing. If you get conned, SERVE YOU RIGHT! so many bro here warn you already. If you still wanna get conned, don't come here KPKB. You just sia sway us SG BRO here. If you good, call police and share your stories. Eliminate bad hats one by one.


Bro u dum need to b 铁石心肠 just need to b 舍得放下 n 123
If meet see look diff cmi ... svs start chu pattern this no tat no but action not start yet ... dress up go go go n 123
1 reject n off u go wo paying a single penny... as she never fulfill t written contract started ( But if u started to F sorri u must pay full )

2 Always standby 2nd ctc n proceed to plan B... n sua sua still fail

3 GL 100 to 150 go go go

B4 n avoid u need to use t abv ... do yr searching 1st follow by call or sms to test water n confirmed t must hv tat u want ... ex frenching n painting n is web pic is actual babe ... if yes n turned out no she has no excuse to kpkb when u reject wo a penny

bro as for yr last Q ... dum matter now as he cant b wat he used to b ... we hv to move on
If they cant change ... we change ... 山不转。。人转。。见风转舵。。那边花香那边迎。。别为臭花强扑鼻

[sporeknight76]

So agree!

If they put fake pic, you think they gonna give you services as per describe?
Please SG bro, wake up and think!
Walk away. and if no plan B, legal house in GL many many.
It's not as if the FL are 50% off, some are even more expensive than legal!
So why see nice picture online and all kenna con by it???

We SG bro are all being mock by the Chinese and Taiwanese and Hongkies by being a carrot head.

I ever slam hotel door in china when a WeChat gal arrive not looking like the picture.
I have asked her 5 times, real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes.
Let her curse and swear outside my door. Then I change room. :D
China people will lie without remorse.

One more thing. If you get conned, SERVE YOU RIGHT! so many bro here warn you already. If you still wanna get conned, don't come here KPKB. You just sia sway us SG BRO here. If you good, call police and share your stories. Eliminate bad hats one by one.

Well said. Totally agree. I hav turned down 4 FLs Las 4mth. Wasted transp $ rather than 100+. Pics NT same, age too old, att prob, double bookings.......

[Revelations]

Got zapped and guess it's from those dishonest OKT. Anyway cant be bothered about points and they can zap till kingdom come lor..

Same sentiment bro ... hahahaha I also got zapped. All I can say is .... seriously???

Points have no value like it had until 5 years ago. Points then meant something, to get contacts. Now points are as useful as a can opener on a deserted island.

Zapping is as painful as someone throwing a cotton bud at you.

[webpost]

understand below and you will know what to do

will you pay 120 to use a old tire now if everyone were using it for 100 for the past few months?

[anime83]

Now points are as useful as a can opener on a deserted island.

Zapping is as painful as someone throwing a cotton bud at you.

I like your analogy.:D Bump

[marathonguy]

Now points are as useful as a can opener on a deserted island.

Zapping is as painful as someone throwing a cotton bud at you.


true true!

[Feilong1970]

Simple for me, if prices hike until as high as legal house, just go to those legal house lor. Somemore can view the girls plus service definetly good, Cos OKT control. Somemore cfm not so much attitude problem.
Really abit sick of all these FL's cb attitude problem liao. Yes there are many service orientated fl out there but its like buying tikam ......

[GN007SG]

there are many useful pointers here
but no matter how much awareness we are trying to create here
there are still people willing to be carrot

how to be commando when u see landmines everywhere

[FRATERNITY]

sad lo......... looking for more very young looking fl also hard these days... :(

[stamphere]

Hmm...in economics we call this risk and return. The girls took the risk to come here (some being caught within a week of being here) and thus the price definitely will be higher.

I too hope the price will not increase a lot but if you are priced out, then find alternative sources lor.

[GN007SG]

Our results nowadays does not nett the returns for the risk taken
We simply cannot find equilibrium here anymore

And if u factor in consumer theory no. We are not satifisfied!

Anyway long gone are days where u find genuine fr in sbf anymore.
perhaps maybe pm. There are many small forums lurking around with these info tho..

[rtmFRs]

Hmm...in economics we call this risk and return. The girls took the risk to come here (some being caught within a week of being here) and thus the price definitely will be higher.

I too hope the price will not increase a lot but if you are priced out, then find alternative sources lor.

are you a carrot head?
you are if you willing to let them pass their cost of risk to us?
also there wasn't a price decrease when airfares/fuel surcharge came down

IMHO,just don't get those above market price, let those above market price starve

pay market value and tip those with good service instead and we should see service levels improve

this is one way to get rid of those bad bonks!

[anime83]

are you a carrot head?
you are if you willing to let them pass their cost of risk to us?
also there wasn't a price decrease when airfares/fuel surcharge came down

IMHO,just don't get those above market price, let those above market price starve

pay market value and tip those with good service instead and we should see service levels improve

this is one way to get rid of those bad bonks!

Not only that, we must not give any business to dishonest OKT and shit FL, be it cheap or ex. By doing so, we are telling them we do not condone any cheating or shortchange..
There are just too many of them in FL2 now and those who think that paying more will give them a higher chance of good bonk will most likely be very disappointed ! Better stay away until we see things turn around for the better..

[catoon75]

I agree. I want to support okts but at this rate and service level, I support fishtank better.

[Shimizu]

It's just that we ought to ask our self .........

I always remember a Bro here once said .........

Which league are you in??

PRETTY ; CHEAP ; EXCELLENT SERVICE

You can only choose two out of the three.

If it's pretty and cheap ..... The service may not be good.

If it's cheap and good service ..... The looks may not be pretty.

If it's pretty and good service ..... It can never be cheap!!!

And then again ..... how much is not cheap??

I met a girl at a high-end night club, she was here four years back in SBF Dome 2.

$80/ 1 / 1 without room was her price in SBF
Her service ..... bbbj, cim, frenching, painting .....

Her price now at the night club ..... $800 ONE SHOT
And she choose who she wish to open her legs!!!
Her service ..... SHE JUST LAY LIKE A DEAD-FISH AND GET FUCK!!!

So it means ................... ...................

SBF is Cheap or Expensive ???

or it means ................... ...................

The good ones have left for greener pastures.

[FUYANG]

after reading this .........

it is about time to give up looking for fl

cheapo people like us $$$$ no enough

guess it is time to stay home and pcc :p


It's just that we ought to ask our self .........

I always remember a Bro here once said .........

Which league are you in??

PRETTY ; CHEAP ; EXCELLENT SERVICE

You can only choose two out of the three.

If it's pretty and cheap ..... The service may not be good.

If it's cheap and good service ..... The looks may not be pretty.

If it's pretty and good service ..... It can never be cheap!!!

And then again ..... how much is not cheap??

I met a girl at a high-end night club, she was here four years back in SBF Dome 2.

$80/ 1 / 1 without room was her price in SBF
Her service ..... bbbj, cim, frenching, painting .....

Her price now at the night club ..... $800 ONE SHOT
And she choose who she wish to open her legs!!!
Her service ..... SHE JUST LAY LIKE A DEAD-FISH AND GET FUCK!!!

So it means ................... ...................

SBF is Cheap or Expensive ???

or it means ................... ...................

The good ones have left for greener pastures.



Same applies to hollywood actresses. :p

Stop being so hard on the OKTs. They'll do what it takes to market their products. All businesses stretch the truth.

Lower your expectations and you won't be so disappointed.

If all cheapo whores looked like supermodels, they would't be in the cheapo category would they. In most countries, you're talking $800 to $1000 per hour for a real looker and there is nothing to guarantee she'd be any good in bed.

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_JXCWMQY9mf8/TNt7bTwCUlI/AAAAAAAAJBI/_ULpYEPoP5E/s640/gloria-estefan_without-photoshop_www.beforeandafter.com.ar.jpg

http://www.chilloutpoint.com/images/2010/08/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop/celebrities-before-and-after-photoshop-19.jpg

http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/webdr05/2013/5/3/12/enhanced-buzz-19611-1367598059-17.jpg

[anime83]

after reading this .........

it is about time to give up looking for fl

cheapo people like us $$$$ no enough

guess it is time to stay home and pcc :p

Dun lidat leh.. 6c6c like me.. pcc too much bad for health and fl economy :D

Thank goodness I still have the means and avenue for sexercise :cool:

[conquer]

So agree!

If they put fake pic, you think they gonna give you services as per describe?
Please SG bro, wake up and think!
Walk away. and if no plan B, legal house in GL many many.


Too bad I don't have such "thick face" to just walk away.

Couple of times, saw a pretty SYT on SBF but ends up meeting an old fat bitch. Sibeh sien... no choice, have to fuck also. :mad::mad::mad:

[canthaveenuf]

Too bad I don't have such "thick face" to just walk away.

Couple of times, saw a pretty SYT on SBF but ends up meeting an old fat bitch. Sibeh sien... no choice, have to fuck also. :mad::mad::mad:

I feel you bro. Same boat. Same mad. :(

[ahbengseng]

http://i.imgur.com/HqEr2sD.jpg

cannot find bad bonk thread and wont bother to find anymore,

was nearby this FL place during office lunch hour,
little bro itchy so decided to drop by to test my luck...

here goes the FR,
Photo is real , video is fake ! lol and her waist down is like a whale

overall service is 5/10. was out of the place in about 1/2 hr...

- she said the most turn off line - "cum faster"
- hurry me to shower after deed done.

I have seen video cam in FLs apartment so their okt can monitor "their business"
chiong at your own risk of privacy being compromised.

-forget about service because mentality of the girls here is to earn quick bucks in the shortest amount of time. chance of finding gems here is like 2 out of 20.

good luck to chiongster of dome 2

I am going back to legal house.

[dancetoo]

Reposting this as a National Service duty to all bros here...


If they put fake pic, you think they gonna give you services as per describe?
Please SG bro, wake up and think!
Walk away. and if no plan B, legal house in GL many many.
It's not as if the FL are 50% off, some are even more expensive than legal!
So why see nice picture online and all kenna con by it???

We SG bro are all being mock by the Chinese and Taiwanese and Hongkies by being a carrot head.

I ever slam hotel door in china when a WeChat gal arrive not looking like the picture.
I have asked her 5 times, real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes. real pic? Yes.
Let her curse and swear outside my door. Then I change room.
China people will lie without remorse.

One more thing. If you get conned, SERVE YOU RIGHT! so many bro here warn you already. If you still wanna get conned, don't come here KPKB. You just sia sway us SG BRO here. If you good, call police and share your stories. Eliminate bad hats one by one.




http://i.imgur.com/HqEr2sD.jpg

cannot find bad bonk thread and wont bother to find anymore,

was nearby this FL place during office lunch hour,
little bro itchy so decided to drop by to test my luck...

here goes the FR,
Photo is real , video is fake ! lol and her waist down is like a whale

overall service is 5/10. was out of the place in about 1/2 hr...

- she said the most turn off line - "cum faster"
- hurry me to shower after deed done.

I have seen video cam in FLs apartment so their okt can monitor "their business"
chiong at your own risk of privacy being compromised.

-forget about service because mentality of the girls here is to earn quick bucks in the shortest amount of time. chance of finding gems here is like 2 out of 20.

good luck to chiongster of dome 2

I am going back to legal house.

[canthaveenuf]

http://i.imgur.com/HqEr2sD.jpg

cannot find bad bonk thread and wont bother to find anymore,

was nearby this FL place during office lunch hour,
little bro itchy so decided to drop by to test my luck...

here goes the FR,
Photo is real , video is fake ! lol and her waist down is like a whale

overall service is 5/10. was out of the place in about 1/2 hr...

- she said the most turn off line - "cum faster"
- hurry me to shower after deed done.

I have seen video cam in FLs apartment so their okt can monitor "their business"
chiong at your own risk of privacy being compromised.

-forget about service because mentality of the girls here is to earn quick bucks in the shortest amount of time. chance of finding gems here is like 2 out of 20.

good luck to chiongster of dome 2

I am going back to legal house.

Feel for you bro. This gal got bad press before.

[yinyin]

Nowadays i also give up, set up tent also take down also, keep up n down also tired :(

[jackybt]

I am glad that I have not chiong any PRC in this Doom for many months. KPKB no use one. This has been going on for a few years liao.As advised by senior samsters, we must take concrete actions so that the situation can be changed.

Right now I only surf 1 or 2 OKT web/thread whom I think its okay. If there is none that suit me, I will just spend my money elsewhere.

REMEMBER NEVER GIVE ANY BUSINESS TO DISHONEST OKTs (even though they may have 1 or 2 good FL) AND THOSE SHIT FLs. THat's what I do !!

from today onward, its customers v OKTS. We must get the OKTS to work for their $$$$$$$$

Disallow them to get bad quality FLS and think they can get away with our hard earn moneys. Lets all do our part and sexpose the bad FLS with a FR.

[sgpiggybank]

Feel for you bro. This gal got bad press before.

This FL is Yiyi which I posted on massage thread and another FL to avoid is Samantha. Both are elephant!

All BEWARE! YIYI has the biggest buttock I seen 1 side is bigger then my thigh.....

[YamEater]

Sad to see such thing happening, I also tio a few ps pic and service kns, bad FR taken down from their site, knn...

Can the old birds here start a new thread on which okt/fls are good or fuck up?

I read every pages but no indicate which okt site cannot make it leh.

This Yiyi and samantha are from which site?

[canthaveenuf]

This FL is Yiyi which I posted on massage thread and another FL to avoid is Samantha. Both are elephant!

All BEWARE! YIYI has the biggest buttock I seen 1 side is bigger then my thigh.....

Haha, big butts good for doggie ma ...... piak piak piak :D

[sgpiggybank]

Sad to see such thing happening, I also tio a few ps pic and service kns, bad FR taken down from their site, knn...

Can the old birds here start a new thread on which okt/fls are good or fuck up?

I read every pages but no indicate which okt site cannot make it leh.

This Yiyi and samantha are from which site?

http://sgbeautycastle.com/yiyi-fj/

http://sgbeautycastle.com/samantha-massage/

My post on this 2 elephants..
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12929305&postcount=8601

[ahbengseng]

the one i visited was yiyi.

Her attitude was VERY POOR

SIGH many more men who didn't read this thread/post will be wasting their $$ and short-change by this awful bitch... :(

[sgpiggybank]

the one i visited was yiyi.

Her attitude was VERY POOR

SIGH many more men who didn't read this thread/post will be wasting their $$ and short-change by this awful bitch... :(

Haha. you never mentioned about the gigantic size. LOL..

[ahbengseng]

Haha. you never mentioned about the gigantic size. LOL..


one person mentioned it's good for doggie... :o

yah maybe for people with fetish for plus size woman like this lol -

http://i.imgur.com/im6OyFz.jpg

[sgpiggybank]

one person mentioned it's good for doggie... :o

yah maybe for people with fetish for plus size woman like this lol -

http://i.imgur.com/im6OyFz.jpg

OMG! You just remind me of the 2 FL YIYI and Samantha..:D

[tittytitty]

Is there any bros out there who have called on Dan Dan's service. She stays on the west side of this island and she can be found with many stables in sbf.

Her rate in all her threads are $80/1 hour/1 shot. Lucky I called her before I went over to ask for her service for a 2 hour booking. She replied me that for 2 hour booking it will cost $240. Out of curiousity I asked her why is it more expensive than an hour rate, given that if we book her under the usual rate, it should be $160/2 hour/2 shots n usually, not always, it will be slightly cheaper for a longer hour booking correct.

Her reply to me was for a 2 hour booking, she can do 4 customers which is $320 n that she had already given me a discount which she said I can have 3 shots in 2 hour with her by giving me an additional FJ instead of only allowing 2 shots under normal circumstances. I confirm with her with what I have postulated that once we shot our load, does it imply end of session even though 1 hour is not up yet. She replied YES. I replied her I understood her meaning, thanked her n ended the conversation.

There is another girl named Zhu Er, 38E, quoted me $250 for 2 hour service. Her normal rate is $100/1 hour/1 shot. For her I did not ask her the reason but I guess it also the same way she conducts her business like Dan Dan.

So if there's any bro out there who have tried either Dan Dan's or Zhu Er's service? I really wish to find out if I want to call for their service. Is it true that they will ask u to leave if u shot your load and the time is not up yet?

Please kindly let me know.

I know what I have highlighted here may get me being zapped by many stupid bros for reasons I do not think I have offended them. What I have said are based on true account from my conversation with Dan Dan. So please if u want to zap me by all means because I curse u will get your retribution. I do not know why u guys go around zapping others when we are speaking the truth. Perhaps these girls are your paymaster or that u are under their 'love spell'. What I am trying to do is to let all the bros out there to be able to enjoy their session when the thread states their terms and conditions and not always shortchanged us. Are we really 'carrot head' to these Chinese ladies?

Having said all, I am not here to offend anyone. I believe everyone has the right to share the truth in this forum. Damn me if I have lied about my conversation with Dan Dan but CURSE THOSE WHO ZAPPED ME FOR NO REASONS!!!

Please pardon me for those strong words. Yes, the points here do not mean anything but it serves as a form of motivation for people to want to share nice n truthful reports with others. Not to be zapped by unscrupulous idiots who is out to 'destroy' this point system for reasons only they know themselves.

[alanding]

What i get to know is that damage increase because now most of the fl for every customer theshe serve, she have to give $20 to the okt.

[alanding]

So we are now paying the extra to the okt and they just shake leg take money.

[canthaveenuf]

Bro tittytitty can share dandan and zhuer links so we van all avoid.

[pyder]

What i get to know is that damage increase because now most of the fl for every customer theshe serve, she have to give $20 to the okt.

you trust what they say is the truth when money is involved?

[alanding]

Why zap me for nothing

[Sen5eS]

http://sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=523609&page=10

Thread for everyone's awareness :D

[tittytitty]

Keep going

[Boinkboinkboink]

Is there any bros out there who have called on Dan Dan's service. She stays on the west side of this island and she can be found with many stables in sbf.

Her rate in all her threads are $80/1 hour/1 shot. Lucky I called her before I went over to ask for her service for a 2 hour booking. She replied me that for 2 hour booking it will cost $240. Out of curiousity I asked her why is it more expensive than an hour rate, given that if we book her under the usual rate, it should be $160/2 hour/2 shots n usually, not always, it will be slightly cheaper for a longer hour booking correct.

Her reply to me was for a 2 hour booking, she can do 4 customers which is $320 n that she had already given me a discount which she said I can have 3 shots in 2 hour with her by giving me an additional FJ instead of only allowing 2 shots under normal circumstances. I confirm with her with what I have postulated that once we shot our load, does it imply end of session even though 1 hour is not up yet. She replied YES. I replied her I understood her meaning, thanked her n ended the conversation.

There is another girl named Zhu Er, 38E, quoted me $250 for 2 hour service. Her normal rate is $100/1 hour/1 shot. For her I did not ask her the reason but I guess it also the same way she conducts her business like Dan Dan.

So if there's any bro out there who have tried either Dan Dan's or Zhu Er's service? I really wish to find out if I want to call for their service. Is it true that they will ask u to leave if u shot your load and the time is not up yet?

Please kindly let me know.

I know what I have highlighted here may get me being zapped by many stupid bros for reasons I do not think I have offended them. What I have said are based on true account from my conversation with Dan Dan. So please if u want to zap me by all means because I curse u will get your retribution. I do not know why u guys go around zapping others when we are speaking the truth. Perhaps these girls are your paymaster or that u are under their 'love spell'. What I am trying to do is to let all the bros out there to be able to enjoy their session when the thread states their terms and conditions and not always shortchanged us. Are we really 'carrot head' to these Chinese ladies?

Having said all, I am not here to offend anyone. I believe everyone has the right to share the truth in this forum. Damn me if I have lied about my conversation with Dan Dan but CURSE THOSE WHO ZAPPED ME FOR NO REASONS!!!

Please pardon me for those strong words. Yes, the points here do not mean anything but it serves as a form of motivation for people to want to share nice n truthful reports with others. Not to be zapped by unscrupulous idiots who is out to 'destroy' this point system for reasons only they know themselves.

Wow, so profound leh. True enuf.

[Tenchu]

So bros.
Being a newbie in the hc region.,
Wats the ave damages ?
Hj bj fj
Thanks

[paymaster]

Hi Bros,

Remember demand controls supply. A lot of operators are not local now and the prices are crazy. Just stick to your stand bros. If you are not comfortable with their prices, don't take it. If you really like the girl, negotiate. If they don't want to work with you on negotiation, YOU move on to the next. Remember, the one with MONEY rules. You are the one that controls prices. If you give in, you will cause the market prices to go up. There must be a control or we cant even play on our own home ground anymore.

For newbes, 50 for hj, 80 for bj and 100 for FJ. some body was asking this. If the girl is really pretty like a 8/10 and young 18-21 years, AND they really give you a good time and experience, you can pay up to 25%- 50% more. But its up to you.

Bro, you don't have to feel sorry for them. Done have to worry if they make money or not. A lot of them come for a month or two and they can start a shop or pay for a downpayment for a apartment. 4-5 customers a day is easy. (unless they really cannot make it, then these type have to be realistic and lower their prices.) So that 400-500 a day. thats 12000- 15000 a month. Most of them comes in on visit pass and their cost for that is less then 1000.Their most expensive cost is room rental for work which cost them about 100 per day. So that 3000 a month. They still make more them most managers position in Singapore. So don't need to worry or feel bad if they don't make money.

But i am worry for us. I worry a lot of us won't be able to play in our own home ground very soon if this carries on. Whats bothering me even more that a lot of the operators are from overseas. (Tiong land makes up quite bit) We have to work together bros. Spread this info and work together. Don't let outsiders create a market that forces us out and forces the market to control us.

[paymaster]

Another note for newbies. If you found that the girl is different from the picture you saw online. eg you got a different much uglier girl, You reject immediately on the spot, leave and post the information on sammy so all will know. If pretty and you like her looks then you carry on.

Remember do not accept these unscrupulous gimmicks. Most of the times, these are done by the girls and the operators close one eye. Do take note.

[paymaster]

Bro, don't worry about the point system. It has already been corrupted. It will only support and benefits those who pays advert fees to this forum. So don't bother about the points system anymore. Just post the truth and there be those like us who spends money for entertainment like this who needs this info.

[jackybt]

:cool: :cool::cool::cool:

Hi Bros,

Remember demand controls supply. A lot of operators are not local now and the prices are crazy. Just stick to your stand bros. If you are not comfortable with their prices, don't take it. If you really like the girl, negotiate. If they don't want to work with you on negotiation, YOU move on to the next. Remember, the one with MONEY rules. You are the one that controls prices. If you give in, you will cause the market prices to go up. There must be a control or we cant even play on our own home ground anymore.

For newbes, 50 for hj, 80 for bj and 100 for FJ. some body was asking this. If the girl is really pretty like a 8/10 and young 18-21 years, AND they really give you a good time and experience, you can pay up to 25%- 50% more. But its up to you.

Bro, you don't have to feel sorry for them. Done have to worry if they make money or not. A lot of them come for a month or two and they can start a shop or pay for a downpayment for a apartment. 4-5 customers a day is easy. (unless they really cannot make it, then these type have to be realistic and lower their prices.) So that 400-500 a day. thats 12000- 15000 a month. Most of them comes in on visit pass and their cost for that is less then 1000.Their most expensive cost is room rental for work which cost them about 100 per day. So that 3000 a month. They still make more them most managers position in Singapore. So don't need to worry or feel bad if they don't make money.

But i am worry for us. I worry a lot of us won't be able to play in our own home ground very soon if this carries on. Whats bothering me even more that a lot of the operators are from overseas. (Tiong land makes up quite bit) We have to work together bros. Spread this info and work together. Don't let outsiders create a market that forces us out and forces the market to control us.

[nimrod69]

Absolutely Agree With The Thread.

Its been creeping up...
Its all like oil cartel, they fixed the rates. Its up to U to stand ur ground.
But we batang use small head to think, instead of big head.

I just pick and choose, if they don't agreed w your proposal move to the next target. To each his own.

(caveat) If samsters don't unite on the price front, everyone pays more

cheers

[cunt4]

I already stop long ago cos the price too high for me .

[iunitedz]

I must say you guys are awesome. I really cant agree more on all the comments in this thread!

One thing for sure, hit rate for Fl nowadays the most 2/10. even worse than gambling! And if newbie cheongster, I can say the most 1/10. And I can say 0/10 that will really serve you 100/1/1. Not sure if I misunderstood the 1 or actually 1 now means 1 quarter of hour - 15min. Really WTF sia.

Last time I dont dare to walk off as well, just guai guai and LL go in finish session and pay. I think less than 15min i tried before also. Now I dont fuck care, walk off means walk off. Nothing to worry. The old golden rule, customer always right. Not to mention they are not complying to what their specs and package at all.

I only can say we must start to realize our rights and do something correct. There will no chance to turnaround unless the demand goes down. Somehow I rather pick up those $30/$40 cmi type along geylang might even better than these bloody sucking FL. Pathetic to the max man....

Just my 2 cents.

[sand]

Hi Bros,

Remember demand controls supply. A lot of operators are not local now and the prices are crazy. Just stick to your stand bros. If you are not comfortable with their prices, don't take it. If you really like the girl, negotiate. If they don't want to work with you on negotiation, YOU move on to the next. Remember, the one with MONEY rules. You are the one that controls prices. If you give in, you will cause the market prices to go up. There must be a control or we cant even play on our own home ground anymore.

For newbes, 50 for hj, 80 for bj and 100 for FJ. some body was asking this. If the girl is really pretty like a 8/10 and young 18-21 years, AND they really give you a good time and experience, you can pay up to 25%- 50% more. But its up to you.

Bro, you don't have to feel sorry for them. Done have to worry if they make money or not. A lot of them come for a month or two and they can start a shop or pay for a downpayment for a apartment. 4-5 customers a day is easy. (unless they really cannot make it, then these type have to be realistic and lower their prices.) So that 400-500 a day. thats 12000- 15000 a month. Most of them comes in on visit pass and their cost for that is less then 1000.Their most expensive cost is room rental for work which cost them about 100 per day. So that 3000 a month. They still make more them most managers position in Singapore. So don't need to worry or feel bad if they don't make money.

But i am worry for us. I worry a lot of us won't be able to play in our own home ground very soon if this carries on. Whats bothering me even more that a lot of the operators are from overseas. (Tiong land makes up quite bit) We have to work together bros. Spread this info and work together. Don't let outsiders create a market that forces us out and forces the market to control us.
Totally Agreed with you Bro.

However, there is a lot of them anyhow tip so those girls think they can fetch a lot then they increase their price.

I always remember that its their job to provide good service. No need tipping.

I work hard also never see my boss give tips.