Team Hoian/hayhay/sidtip vs Team Kittenz/Bote (TomMAffolter)

[Hurricane88]

May the best team wins!:eek::D:cool::)

[hoian]

Actually you are BIGGEST carrot head of all. In my 15+ yrs of visiting VN, I have never been whacked with a broom by a local gal before... as you had experienced recently. I dunno... perhaps u were trying to force her into unnatural sex.

MORE "clickbait"...Maybe because they know im not a carrot head ...

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, stop messing around, your mommy have forgive u for sniping her upskirt photo while she is sleeping. Pls come home.

Actually you are BIGGEST carrot head of all. In my 15+ yrs of visiting VN, I have never been whacked with a broom by a local gal before... as you had experienced recently. I dunno... perhaps u were trying to force her into unnatural sex.

[hoianpukgai]

Puk Gai.....you always post rubbish
GO FUCK URSELF

RTFF = Return To Fuck (for) Free
... or maybe shld be RTFFF. :p

[hoianfather]

I caught my retarded son wanking to orgasm while reading this FR.
He is often left dry this way but not high enough.
Be forewarned, after ejaculation he may go crazy and come back to bite people.


She then rode my dick, but hse has her panties still one,, so i just pulled her forwards to suck on those long nipples, with my mouth on her nipples, my hand was groping her ass and fingering her pussy, but she would clench her body to limit how much penentration i could do. After another 5mins of that she then started licking again down to my penis. She then licked around my groin, and sucking my balls, she however didnt lick my shaft or the head of my penis, just my balls, then she would oil up my dick giving me a hj whilst licking my balls. Next she rubbed my dick against her breasts. I was close to cumming

[hoian]

U always like to imply that as long as someone is not using your pimp services, then he must have overpaid?

For you, you underpaid and got whacked with a broom. Not many tourists wanna get into ugly scenes like u do. They can afford to have fun unlike u living on immoral gains.

methink u overpaid from you post history, but anyway thansk for making the effort

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, you must have run out of youtube video to watch.

I am proud of you when you decide to start a thread sharing your youtube video, that is the most glamorous thing you done.

Old habits done hard, now here you are posting nonsense again.

U always like to imply that as long as someone is not using your pimp services, then he must have overpaid?

[hoian]

Clickbait again?
I have tons of such pics on my FB. And Zalo... Wechat... Viber... etc.


this is a sample of some of my current favourite...cute and good service at cafes 120-140k for a bbbj
http://s11.postimg.org/ykzeflwr3/index.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ykzeflwr3/) http://s11.postimg.org/ooybfyqz3/index1.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ooybfyqz3/) http://s11.postimg.org/ugyfn40sv/index3.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ugyfn40sv/) http://s11.postimg.org/ipakcb66n/index4.jpg (http://postimg.org/image/ipakcb66n/)

i found another cafe filled with such girls, tho maybe with more babyfats, tho the service is pretty avg

[hoian]

Dreaming of doing what? Getting whacked by a WL with a broom like what happened to u? :p

the difference is that people know me, and u just a lurker watching porn and masturbating dreaming of actually doing such things

[hoian]

In the first place I would NOT be desperate enough to visit a sleazy joint and end up with an ugly whore. Unlike u, I have real friends in VN.

So now you are dreaming about being a respected member of a sex forum? Perhaps u wanna share how many times u have been banned from this forum? :rolleyes:

...i wrote she tried to hit me with my shoes...

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, go ahead and show them the girls photo you collect for PCC.
Im sure you have tons of them, im so proud of you.

Clickbait again?
I have tons of such pics on my FB. And Zalo... Wechat... Viber... etc.

[hoianpukgai]

You are the greatest idiot in this forum, everyone knows that

You throw huge amount of tip to taxi driver, post dating expensive model girl, rebuke others being stingy not tipping taxi, rebuke others not paying transportation fare for FL.

Next you rebuke people looking for FL in tourist area paying too much compare to local website girls, rebuke people tipping more to girls in massage places. Total contradiction.

See how idiot you are...

In the first place I would NOT be desperate enough to visit a sleazy joint and end up with an ugly whore. Unlike u, I have real friends in VN.

So now you are dreaming about being a respected member of a sex forum? :

[hoian]

Talking to a clone? How desperate can u get? LOL~

sorry i need to correct you on this...

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, you are talking to a clone too. :p
POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK.
Why do i have a idiotic son like you.
Talking to a clone? How desperate can u get? LOL~

Liar. U used to be mutantchicken and countless other clones attacking me

[hoianpukgai]

I hope S'poreans don't come to sex forum and talk like he is Singapore minister or some big shot, nothing to post but making stupid comment
WHAT A IDIOT
I hope those S'poreans learnt a lesson. When u are a guest in someone's country, u better act humble and be prepared to apologise when u bump into someone or did something wrong.

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, pls keep your stupid fictional story to yourself and stop disturbing this thread.


This can happen anywhere, even in Spore. Once I was out with a group of friends, mostly ladies. An obviously drunk Aussie guy bump into one of the ladies and the one of the guys in my group almost bashed up the drunk Aussie if I had not intervened.

[hoian]

Everything u posted is also fiction or clickbait to further your pimp business.

At the very least, I have no hidden agenda. I do not welcome anyone to PM me.

i find that hard to believe...i m scared of a angry girl who threaten me with a broom...

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, your hidden agenda is too obvious, I know you try hard to cover ur real life inadequacy. While you did a good job with posting nonsense, u make yourself look like a big idiot.

Everything u posted is also fiction or clickbait to further your pimp business.

At the very least, I have no hidden agenda. I do not welcome anyone to PM me.

[hoian]

Yours is also not FR. It's pure fiction.
What cafe om? What hot toc? There are 1,000s in Saigon.

U have been wasting bandwidth and wasting time typing lots of words with no real info. All u are doing is trying to lure newbies to PM u for real info which you will charge money for.

Pls do not continue. U obviously have nothing to share.

Here is a few FR of girls i have seen over the past few months...1 Cafe om girl ...2 cafe om girl 2 ...hottoc...4hottoc #2...to be continued...

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, I am very disappointed with you. Whatever you comment refer to yourself. You wrote so many story to promote urself, wasting bandwidth and time to type lots of words with no real info. All u doing is trying to cover your real life inadequacies and take revenge on others in a cyberworld.

Pls do not continue. U obviously have nothing to share.
Sometime i wonder why you cannot be more intelligent.

Yours is also not FR. It's pure fiction.
What cafe om? What hot toc? There are 1,000s in Saigon.

U have been wasting bandwidth and wasting time typing lots of words with no real info. All u are doing is trying to lure newbies to PM u for real info which you will charge money for.

Pls do not continue. U obviously have nothing to share.

[hoianpukgai]

Since you are so humble, i will help direct you to the right person.
You can pm hoian and wendella for such info. It is better than reading H88 spoiler signature and end up in family KTV or rip off pub.... :D

Hi all hcm seniors,
1. As a solo (worse, first time in hcmc), is it even safe to wander to D10, or out of D1?
2. I am interested in cafe om and hair salons, something i nvr tried b4 in bkk or china. i understand these are hard to find even with addresses for someone new and dunno vietnamese. Any kind bros willing to pm some locations for me to find pls?
3. I also want to try out few MPs, how do I differentiate those with happy ending vs those sibei-chio-cock-teasers which don't do anything but carrot me? Of course I will try to follow the ones written here first, asking just in case I happened to walk around and see some damn chio gals and cannot tahan... (if I kanna carrot then I come back write FR...)
.

[hoian]

Another fictitious "FR".

Here's my observation. WLs who are desperate enough to service customers like Tom-watever with severely limited budgets are usually dark-skinned and borderline ugly from the country-side.

The really good-looking ones are not the ones u find working in cheap brothels or on Wechat (with some exceptions -- some of u may remember I wrote about flirting with two gorgeous ladies at K Circle who were waiting for customers on Wechat).

The best looking gals are the ones u find working at VD & similar spas, but it takes lots to be able to date them out. One gal I spoke to, said she has been offered gifts like -- iphones, trips to Korea etc. So nothing u offer will impress them.


Some recent experiences and observations
So on sunday i was hanging around infront of a fullservice brothel...

[hoian]

I don't think I need to match your stupidity by playing dumb games. Just google cafe om and hot toc. Or search in Youtube.

The gals I date are the ones u can only dream about. The other day I was standing with my gf outside CBT and I saw this middle-aged balding guy with a beer belly. He was following this gal who looked unmistakably like a cheap whore. The fat guy's head turned 180-degree to ogle at my gal, probably never seen a fair VN with great body and pan-Asian looks before. Could that guy be you?

im still waiting on your answer you claim my posts are all fiction and that you know 1000's of cafe om , hot toc etc, so i challanged you to show some of that 1000's just 5 will do...

[hoian]

Here, just to show how stupid u are... to have the delusion that only you have exclusive knowledge about VN... when the info is all out there if u know where to find.

Below are just 2 out of 1,000s. I never step inside these, esp the ones in Q1 because they are all tourist traps.

hahah right google hottoc and cafe om, to get adresses where u can get bj...wow...

Loc Nhu Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tE-ggeUdlgk

Loc Thien Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkH2taFKvyA

[hoian]

Just 400k a pop... but Tom-watever can't afford her. He's going for the 100-200k range... after having sex wanna play punk... end up getting whacked with a broom. Poor guy.

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/22235/22235366177b1a0133ad4984bbbb4b9a6fe3de3e.jpg

[hoian]

Nope. The ad says Phu Nhuan. Last laugh's on you.
U can try calling her to find out if u are interested in my find. Provided u can afford it.

hahah this girl isnt even located in HCM..she based in kim lien moi in hanoi...and she isnt even 400k but 500k....now u really proving your stupidity

[hoianfather]

Well done my retarded son, finally you manage to share useful news.
Next time don't include comment so readers won't detect your idiocy, save you some embarassment too.
This is unusual. Crimes against tourists used to be rare.

[hoian]

By foreigners, I dun mean cheapskates like u who trawl back lanes looking for cheap whores and then not paying the agreed fees. That's why u get whacked with a broom all the time. For u, getting whacked is common.

like i have always said, the poster is a basement dweller, just trawls the net posting things he hasnt directly experienced. A SAD INDIVIDUAL WHO CAN ONLY watch PORN and post his fantasys.

[hoianpukgai]

Have u not disgrace yourself enough in this forum?
Become a laughing stock to many, and now u keep dragging those irrelevant point to support ur stupid posting....haizz...

If u are really dating model enjoy, why not ignored all these stupid argument & go enjoy urself,
U are really a prefect example of a idiot who need to use this forum to maintain ur status.
By foreigners, I dun mean cheapskates like u who trawl back lanes looking for cheap whores and then not paying the agreed fees. That's why u get whacked with a broom all the time. For u, getting whacked is common.

[hoian]

Imagine she is only in her mid-40s. Incredible.
We have to welcome our first Viet female billionaire.


Everyone ignores u and u start to chat with your own clone? How pathetic.
he cannot generate any reputation with his reports or his knowledge of vn so now he resorts to begging for points for whatever nefarious plans he has

[hoian]

U are wrong. Those points can be redeemed for free air tickets to VN. So better start collecting now. :D

...so there is no reasonable excuse that you would even bother to beg for points unless u some sad ass you needs that to promote your status as a senior etc etc look at me i have 15000 points

[hoian]

Aahh.... so pting is your customer. That explains a lot.

wow didnt i take you to a few cafe om.....

[hoian]

Sorry I don't fantasize about catching STDs from doing 69s with gals who routinely perform BJs on locals.... or getting whack with a broom by cheap whores. We all know that locals pee anywhere on the streets and washing their hands & dicks is rare. Seems like u are leading your customers to an early grave. Good luck!

...and fantasize abt a life otherwise...

[hoian]

I am glad u guys are aware of the risks or at least discussing about it. For Tom-watever aka mutantchicken, he is already infected so no issue for him.

actually me and Pting were talking in PM about the cunnilingus issue....

[hoian]

As I mentioned, for you is no issue. You are already infected with STD. Feel free to wash your face and gargle with urine as its "sterile". Hope your death will not be too painful. What an ignorant dumb ass u are.

what is pissing in the street and not washing their hands go to do with bbbj/cunnilingus and how unclean that activity is, if anything urine is sterile...

[hoian]

Getting desperate again and need to create lies? Who did I pm to "beg" for contacts?

The only ppl who pm'ed me lately and that I have bothered to reply is Wendella... and it's mostly about VN translation.

I can understand basic tv so I dun see why I need to "beg". Besides I have "never been to VN" like u claimed. So why do I need those contacts for? Contradicting yourself? U have to try harder to discredit me.... lol.

.... pm people begging for contacts hahah

[hoian]

U haven't answered my question. Who did I "beg" for contacts?

thats how sad and pathetic you are...

[hoian]

I read your posting twice and still have no idea what you are rambling about. Firstly u need to get an education to be able to communicate coherently.

Secondly, if you cannot say who I approached to "beg" for contacts, that means u are making up stories. End of argument. No need to beat around the bush.

unlike YOU have have principles...

[Hurricane88]

May the best team wins!:eek::D:cool::)

[jimfairy]

Ting.. Ting.. Start now!!!!:D

[hoian]

Yup Hoian has no "team" while Tom-wadever has to create clones to support himself.

So it should be Hoian vs team Tom-wadever.

[Wendella]

yeah thats great logic in a simple world, but what happens is teh busy girls everyone knows including the girls to wrap it up..the less busy girls who have less customers will have a financial tempation when some guy who thinks this girls is less worn, offers extra money to have bareback sex....and so busy girls with eg 100 customers all covered vs less busy girl (eg u date a ex WL, she still in conatact with old customers) only 20 custmers but 5 are bareback sex....now u tell me who is takeing more risk

OK I get what you're saying. You're right that I oversimplified it, though I think you are doing that a bit yourself too. Do you know what % of VN guys try to go bareback? I would bet that lots try to. I just think bareback happens more than you think here. Bad showering too. And leakage happens. And so do broken condoms.

OK so right, maybe it's not as simple as the way I put it initially, of course there's some weird caveats, but broadly speaking the pattern would tend to hold. IMO.

[Wendella]

lots try to guys do, but ill say this out of ALL the asian girls i have been with the vietnamese ones have been teh most fastidious regarding condom use esp with high milage girls...other countries with eg DATY if they feel attracted to you they will allow, vietnamese girls will refuse cuz they think they can catch something

Think of for example motorbike girls. Lots of customers every night. And they're dealing with plenty of customers who turn into animals once in the room, often drunk and obnoxious, forcing the girl to do what they want, sadistic even. I've seen VN guys like that in bia om and even night clubs -- real gang rapist types -- enjoy tormenting girls. Guys like that aren't gonna slip on a condom if they don't want to.

[hoian]

You are absolutely right. I was about to say the same. That idiot Tom-wadever is spouting his usual BS again. Foreigners tend to use condoms. Locals maybe 50:50. Local guys from out-of-town and from the country, very rarely....they figure if they are paying money, they can do whatever they want.

Think of for example motorbike girls. Lots of customers every night. And they're dealing with plenty of customers who turn into animals once in the room, often drunk and obnoxious, forcing the girl to do what they want, sadistic even. I've seen VN guys like that in bia om and even night clubs -- real gang rapist types -- enjoy tormenting girls. Guys like that aren't gonna slip on a condom if they don't want to.

[Cool_Taurian]

Lol Tom......its too risky to fxxx without condom (bareback), and it double the risk especially with vietnamese FLs. Vietnamese FLs are the most international nowadays, they flew much more than the Pinoys and Chinese.

Shanghai bars Manhattan - 90% Vietnamese
KL Beach Club - 80% Vietnamese
Orchard Tower - mostly Vietnamese
FKK in Germany - if you can find Asian girls, they are Vietnamese.
HK Bars - many Vietnamese
Jakarta Spa and Bars - more and more Vietnamese now (so called import)
.....not to mention other countries......

Looking at how international they are, upon return, they bring back a lot of gifts back to their clients in homeland. You want to screw them bareback.....? GOOD LUCK.

[Cool_Taurian]

You are wrong again about Angeles City. Old white men, mostly retired US Military in Clark......they are the most quiet nowadays.....the Pinoys prefer Koreans/Japs (not so many) because these crowd are young and better looking, and willing to spend more money. Which ladies will want to stick to old white men with limited cash power.....it is all about money and age. If you are talking about force, do whatever they want......lol.....check out the kimchi, not the whites.

[Cool_Taurian]

This thread is getting boring. Less bros are sharing their Vietnam sexcapades......
Reading all posts from Manchester Unipiak vs Totemput wastes so much time.

Better post sexy nice FL pics, sexcapades experiences,....better lar......this is sex forum what.....

Also pls dont post TIN KOSONG FL story.....boring lar......

Look at Jakarta and Philippines Thread....the bros there si beh steady wan.....sexcapades stories also very steamy......

Here only Father + Son + Son's enemy - you piak me i piak you....., i lose later i come back as your father screw you upside down.....

[Cool_Taurian]

Tom,

You call Singaporean gang rapist attitude ? Lol.....you better retract your statement.

Rapist attitude exists in every nation regardless of skin , language, nationalities........ you

POTATO. Its a matter of education and respect.

[hoian]

You have exposed Tom-wadever for a fraud that he is.

There is absolutely NOTHING in his so-called FRs. Zero per cent information but 100% click-bait to further his pimp business.

And occasionally he makes his customers eg pting post yet more nonsense FRs to highlight what blind bats they are.... and Tom-wadever would make a comeback saying...ohh... u should have tried my $1-a-pop whore... as if he has a monopoly on cheap whores. Fact is, he takes customers' money and take them on a merry-go-round. As he is not sure himself how the system works because of his lack of financial resources and his spastic looks that only his mum could tolerate. Those of you who have seen his photo floating around know what I mean.

Fact is, I don't have anything against pimps, especially small-timers like him. But when I spot a fake FR, click-bait & nonsense being written, I can't help but poke holes in those fake reports.

This thread is getting boring. Less bros are sharing their Vietnam sexcapades........

[hoian]

Everyone including the moderator already know you were mutantchicken before and your Tom-wadever is a clone acct, besides Lord knows how many other fake accts. What more proof is needed?

i have no clones , you cannot accept that there is more than just myself who recognises what a idiot you are and regarding the clones, as you put it yourself
"Secondly, if you cannot say who I approached to "beg" for contacts, that means u are making up stories. End of argument. No need to beat around the bush." to paraphase you where is your proof, if you have no proof, that means you are making up stories, end of argument, no need to beat around the bush.

[Wendella]

Trying to remember some of the points in your post.

I've never been to Angeles City.

THe "gang rapist" thing is a certain kind of attitude I see some guys take here, when they are out with a group of their buddies, they look at the girls as pieces of meat and obviously enjoy doing things against the girls' wishes, where here protests are something they laugh at as they continue to do what they want. You haven't seen that? The nightclub I saw it at was VERY local, those guys were not VK. They looked low class, rough, uneducated. My friend was in the bathroom area and saw a girl putting a knife inside her dress. They grabbed a girl from our table and took her to theirs, within about 15 minutes a guy had his arms wrapped round her holding her and was fingering her against her wishes. Definitely guys like this out there. Plenty. And yes they tend to go for the lower rungs, the cheapest. I saw a similar thing one night at the old 4 in 1 club way out in D6. One young girl who did not seem to be staff or working girl, being passed around among guys to fondle, they were holding her, forcing her to drink more and more whiskey, which she obviously was trying not to. She tried to leave to go to the toilet and they wouldn't even let her do that. Held her and pulled her back. It was sick. I got up and found the manager and pointed out what was going on, finally he went over and got the girl to be able to go to the toilet at least, but jeez, that was a bad situation.

Of course guys like that are out there, and of course they will go get motorbike girls sometimes when they're drunk and do that kind of thing. They enjoy abusing girls. It's not most customers, no. But there are definitely some like that. More than there should be.

This kiind of got off our main point, about condom use. Yeah so just saying, we can't presume that condom use is near 100%, surely not.

[Bnd2012]

Trying to remember some of the points in your post.

I've never been to Angeles City.

THe "gang rapist" thing is a certain kind of attitude I see some guys take here, when they are out with a group of their buddies, they look at the girls as pieces of meat and obviously enjoy doing things against the girls' wishes, where here protests are something they laugh at as they continue to do what they want. You haven't seen that? The nightclub I saw it at was VERY local, those guys were not VK. They looked low class, rough, uneducated. My friend was in the bathroom area and saw a girl putting a knife inside her dress. They grabbed a girl from our table and took her to theirs, within about 15 minutes a guy had his arms wrapped round her holding her and was fingering her against her wishes. Definitely guys like this out there. Plenty. And yes they tend to go for the lower rungs, the cheapest. I saw a similar thing one night at the old 4 in 1 club way out in D6. One young girl who did not seem to be staff or working girl, being passed around among guys to fondle, they were holding her, forcing her to drink more and more whiskey, which she obviously was trying not to. She tried to leave to go to the toilet and they wouldn't even let her do that. Held her and pulled her back. It was sick. I got up and found the manager and pointed out what was going on, finally he went over and got the girl to be able to go to the toilet at least, but jeez, that was a bad situation.

Of course guys like that are out there, and of course they will go get motorbike girls sometimes when they're drunk and do that kind of thing. They enjoy abusing girls. It's not most customers, no. But there are definitely some like that. More than there should be.

This kiind of got off our main point, about condom use. Yeah so just saying, we can't presume that condom use is near 100%, surely not.

Totally disgusted. Will be going to saigon next month. We had been talking about places to visit. Sisters or bro can advise where not to patronize?

[Wendella]

sure that can happen, but my WHOLE point was that to use a few bad apples as a generalisation against the whole male population is bordering on racist and is wrong and factually incorrect...i remember reading a story about a similar situation in zouk...so what now i can use that as a example saying that ALL singporean men are gang rapists as well.??..or maybe i i can use the example of the crusty old male english teachers hanging around AC. pattaya and even bui vien and i can make some disparaging remark abt all white men....u cant use what 2 examples of bad behaviour then make a sweeping comment like you did.

At the first club I mentioned, I got to know one of the girls well. She told me that what I saw that night was common at that club. I was also there on nights when everyone seemed to be behaving respectably, so I'd never generalize and say that's how VN guys are as a whole, but does that mentality exist here? Definitely. It tends to be a bunch of friends out together, when I've seen it, and most that I saw were lower class uneducated types. It's not borderline racist, you just don't see the same dynamic here with other nationalities just because it's not their country, so they don't feel comfortable enough to do that here, not that I've seen at least. So I'm not saying that allVN guys are like that, no. But some surely are. (and I can imagine similar attitudes exist in other countries too) And I think there's enough of that here that girls in lower rung scenes (motorbikes, SW, some locals clubs, etc) encounter this regularly. You're telling me that I'm generalizing based on a few experiences, but are you not doing that? I'm just saying guys like that are a segment that's out there, for sure. Not sure exactly how common, but common enough that I've had a few girls complain to me about those guys, and that I've witnessed those things I described.

[hoian]

Click-bait. All these info is available for free on the Vietnamese sex forums so there's really no reason to pay him.

....ps those guys who have written Fr regarding online girls can pm me asking for contacts, lurkers or zero posters and just stay away...

[Wendella]

double post -- got hung up from my phone so I retyped (see below) on laptop

[Wendella]

This is not part of the Hoian Tom debate so it doesn't seem to merit being moved to a fight thread. We were discussing valid issues in Vietnam in a way that I don't think is personal or troll-like.

Anyway.

Those were just 3 examples that I mentioned. I also alluded to one girl who filled me in and said the way it was that night is common at that place, at least. I also have plenty of observations of my own of being out and seeing Vn guys and it not being like that. But it doens't make the ones who were like that go away.

Look, how about we try this. If you are in touch with any motorbike girls or street walkers who are in a low priced VN scene, just ask these kinds of questions. Don't set it up to lead her to refute it. Ask open questions. Actually this would need to be one who trusts you and will open up a bit. Ask if she has to deal with customers who are too aggressive, or try to do things in a more forceful style. Or if she deals with sadistic customers sometimes. How common. Ask about how drunk customers are. Or the big group of drinking buddies who egg each other on. And even about bareback, how often she's asked to do that, or if she is sometimes forced to. I'm comfortable hearing whatever you come back with.

I sense that you want it to be as good as you seem to think it is, but I think it might be rose colored glasses situation. From what I've seen and heard, there is some nastiness out there. It's not most of them, no. But enough that one can be sure girls working in the lower rungs do get abused.

[hoian]

I did share some Wechat gals that were the real deal..whom I met in person by chance. Pretty SYT.... no fake photos. But some guys screw it up... wasted the gals time making her go to cheap motels and stood up the gal. Gave me a lot of trouble also because the gals thought there were my friends. In the end, i thought forget it. I am not a pimp like u and i dun make money out of it. So why bring trouble for myself?

...I am still waiting for you to share SOMETHING...

[hoian]

I have the WhatsApp messages. U want me to print screen and put it here? After that what? U chop off your dick?

Unlike u, I dun like to make up stories. A few guys like Lausung also benefitted from my sharing when they PMed me. Think I recommended him a nice gal-friendly hotel. U can always PM him to confirm this.

How about u? Who are those ppl u said I PMed to "beg for contacts?" It's not like I can do any physical harm to them.

you say you share, wheres your proof anyone come on the thread and support what you claim ..NOPE..no proof so just another one of your lies...thats what you said yourself..no proof = lie

[lausung]

Haiz..i did not expect things turn up so bad, let me speak a fair statement here.
First of all i like to thanks Mr hoian for recommending that girl friendly hotel. It is good effort on his side but however i did not stay in that hotel because a counter check with tripadvisor review shows complain of cockroaches. But I do not like to make people upset so i tell Mr hoian i stay in that hotel. But still i express my gratitude for your recommendation.


A few guys like Lausung also benefitted from my sharing when they PMed me. Think I recommended him a nice gal-friendly hotel. U can always PM him to confirm this.

[lausung]

I not sure if He is refering to me. But i only tell 1 person in this forum that u ask for contact from me. I dun noe if that person spread around. To clear all these doubts, below is a print screen for your pm to me.
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How about u? Who are those ppl u said I PMed to "beg for contacts?" It's not like I can do any physical harm to them.

[hoian]

Thanks lausung. At least u came forward to validate that what I said is the truth. No worries about the hotel... I dun own it... and my experiences there has been pleasant so far. In fact, one of the receptionists working there is rather cute but she has resigned already.

Tom-wadever is a sly fox and will use all kinds of tactics (including clones) to dig dirt on ppl... unfortunately for him, I have no dirt on me.

About your gal, I was only kidding about asking for her colleagues contact. I did in fact ask u to remove her photo for her sake because she is not WL and this forum is full of opportunists like Tom-wadever. You already mentioned to me where she worked but I was not bothered to remember or take it down. If u are still in touch with her, you can verify this fact. I have my own gfs in VN and has no use for more.

PS: I kinda figured it would be you. Tom-wadever made it sound like I go around begging ppl for contacts when in fact I have never PMed anybody. Most of the time ppl PM me... and I can tell u the only ppl I have bothered to click "reply" was H88, yourself and Wendella (if my memory serves me right).

I not sure if He is refering to me. But i only tell 1 person in this forum that u ask for contact from me. I dun noe if that person spread around. To clear all these doubts, below is a print screen for your pm to me.

[lausung]

No problem, that time i also puzzled why u ask me for contact since u speak vietnamese well and girls i meet are english speaking girl. Now i know is a joke.

Thanks lausung. At least u came forward to validate that what I said is the truth. No worries about the hotel... I dun own it... and my experiences there has been pleasant so far. In fact, one of the receptionists working there is rather cute but she has resigned already.

Tom-wadever is a sly fox and will use all kinds of tactics (including clones) to dig dirt on ppl... unfortunately for him, I have no dirt on me.

About your gal, I was only kidding about asking for her colleagues contact. I did in fact ask u to remove her photo for her sake because she is not WL and this forum is full of opportunists like Tom-wadever. You already mentioned to me where she worked but I was not bothered to remember or take it down. If u are still in touch with her, you can verify this fact. I have my own gfs in VN and has no use for more.

PS: I kinda figured it would be you. Tom-wadever made it sound like I go around begging ppl for contacts when in fact I have never PMed anybody. Most of the time ppl PM me... and I can tell u the only ppl I have bothered to click "reply" was H88, yourself and Wendella (if my memory serves me right).

[Wendella]

yes i have DONE THIS, i dont get any stories of guys going bareback etc etc, what i do get is stories fo guys who fuck but then refuse to pay, and odly enough she has told be foreigners do that also, tho she didnt say what nationality of foreigners...but you also know that these lower rungs girls ALL have pimps, who are very close by so if there are guys who are thinking of being nasty or sadistic then they know that there is going to be trouble...liek wise i have had plenty of online girls ask if i had a drink, and when i asked further they said they refuse customers who are drunk


Online girls can refuse you if you are drunk. Obviously there's a reason for that, or they would't do it. Can motorbike girls do that?

I can't find your post that mentioned white guys in AC groping girls. I think there was one about me myself groping a girl in a cafe om. There's a key element that you're seeming to not notice: using force to do something against the girl's wishes. [Quickly cuz it's not the point, I only grope in a way that a cafe om girl herself initiates.]

That is what I saw in that nightclub. A girl being held from behind tightly by a guy, her struggling to get away, his finger going up and in. It's that style that I'm talking about. Manhandling the girls. Making them do what the guy wants. Being amused by their protests, like that's part of the fun. That is obviously not ok. It sounds like you have never witnessed that kind of thing, so I guess it means you've been lucky or I've been very unlucky. It's not standard, of course. But it's common enough that I've seen it.

Now in a FS situation, it would mean the girl gets held down and sex done more rape style. Or more than one customer at once as they use her like a toy (I have seen girls being given over to 2 guys to go to hotel with), making her do what they want whether she wants to or not. Motorbike girls can't refuse which customers they go with.

We both know the pimp does not hang out outside the hotel waiting for the girl to finish to see if she's ok. Customers like this would easily be gone before she had a chance to do anything, and is the pimp really gonna be motivated to come to her rescue and physically confront a guy for her? I think those girls in particular are plenty vulnerable to bad customers.

[Wendella]

man this is pointless ...so you saw girls hadned to two guys...what does that even mean..two guys riding on a bike NORMAL, one girls on the bike with the pimp ..and the pimp goes with the two guys.....so that means what...that doenst mean anything, the one guy is driving his mate to the hotel the pimp is driving the girl to hotel ONE guys goes in and fucks, the frend waits elsewhere, unless u see the girl walk in with two guys into teh hotel room, your ovservation means nothing
Actually you're the one speculating here. That's the outcome you want, so you try to finesse it to be that. No, the 2 guys took the girl all the way into the hotel room and then treated her like a sex toy, did whatever they wanted. One did her from behind while the other skull fucked her. Pimp had no problem with handing her off to them, knowing it was gonna be 2 on 1. They did this regularly. See what I'm saying? It was a couple guys who sometimes hung out with a group I used to hang out with, they talked about it. One Vietnamese, one foreigner. It was their thing. They never failed to get takers for their type of entertainment. Sorry I know that wasn't exactly fair to hold back on that detail, I played coy. Tom, it definitely does happen.

....secondly the pimp DOES have a intereste, if the girls is damaged she CANT work and earn him money!!!...so of course he is within a close distance, ALL guys know this, and if you are going to traumatise or torment her then you should expect to pay..either physically or pay momentary...
Not convinced. I myself have been taken blocks away to a hotel (2nd choice cuz first refused us) and pimp had no idea where we were. But even when close by they're usually round the corner having a drink at a streetside cafe or something. If the girl isn't able to get to her phone, and the guy does things that merely traumatize the girl but don't injure, they can do it and walk away. Pimp doesn't see the girl til after they're gone. And I'm not sure a pimp is gonna be willing to stick up for a girl if she's forced to have sex rape style, forceful manner. He might back her up on refusing that customer next time, but I think that's usually going to be the extent of it.

this is classic wendella see something google translate something and COMPLETELY misread the situation...and WHY cant motogirl refuse customers, i have see moto girls refuse guys just cuz they foreigners....so are you suggesting that it's standard for motorbike girls to be allowed to refuse customers? Do you think the norm out there is that motorbike girls can refuse to go with drunk guys?

and my story with you and the cafe om is tis...WHEN SOMEONE is looking from the OUTSIDE like you did in the club, someone could easily misread the situiation and say that you were mistreating and tormenting the girl..just as you may have with the guys in the club...grope in the way a girl initiates, she grabs your hand and pushed ur finger in her pussy, she grabs your head and makes u lick her nipples?...somehows i dont think so
well, you should think so. Any time I've had that level of service in a cafe om, I mean literally in one yes the girl TOOK MY HAND and placed it inside her bra, and then did the same, TOOK MY HAND and placed it down inside her panties and on her bush with fingers resting directly on the vagina. She pulled her top open and then pulled my face onto her bare breasts, seemed like a clear invitation to kiss/lick them. Standard? Aboslutely not. Uncommon. For me at least. But it's happened a few times to me. (with another one it was more about french kissing a long time). In your experience, is that rare? I only talk to guys here and ISG about this stuff, so I actually do not know if what I experienced is common or rare. Also from what you're saying, something this indiscreet looks bad/embarrassing in a cafe om, is that right?

But the point was that what I saw was girls being forced to do things against their wishes, and it was obvious. In 4 in 1 club, the trapped girl wriggled free and tried to run off to the ladies' room, a guy caught her by the arm and pulled her back, wrapped his arms round her and picked up a whiskey, put it to her mouth to force her to drink more. I did not misinterpret what was going on. The body language was clear: she was being manhandled, held against her will, forced to drink whiskey. The guy was holding the glass and pouring it into her mouth. Her arms at her sides. You seem to so much want this to not be true. It happened. It was so disturbing. And I'm not even here claiming that this is typical. But I have definitely seen nasty situations like these. Do you think this kind of thing never happens here? Men here never physically overpower and bully girls? There's no rape here?

I mentioned once before going with a motorbike girl who had cigarette burns on her belly, four of them. Definitely cigarette burns. These things do happen here.

[hoian]

Pointless then. U will just say I use Photoshop or whatever.
yeah show teh whatsapp mesages...even tho thats easy to fake between your accounts...

That's right. They are controlled by local pimps who will not think twice to stab u with a knife if u try anything funny. But you are a pimp in the sense that u bring unsuspecting newbies to dark alleys to fuck cheap whores.
i def dont control any prostitutes...

I dun make any money out of it and I thought I was doing those gals a favour. And I have stopped after one or two guys who seemed like wasting everybody's time.
from your descripotion of a pimp by passing on your wechat girls you also a pimp....

That has already been establised as a lie. U used a clone to dig for info from lausung and he has already come forward to make things clear....that I did not "beg" for contacts.
you begging for contacts is just that act all big but end up begging for contacts whats that go to do with harming anyone...

I did not say u harmed anyone and if u did... thats for your conscience to answer. All I know is you use clever click-baits to lure newbies to further your pimp service. I have nothing against u providing service for lazy ppl but pls do not beat around the bush and just come out and admit it.
if you think harming someone is the issue who am i harming..

Which eventually he has spoken up. As for u... the only ppl who speak up for you are your blind bat customers who thinks they owe u a favour for showing them cheap whores which are actually a dime a dozen.
surely if you helped someone they will voluntarily speak up in your defense like this lausung guy...why they dont say anything...why are there guys who speak up for me, even tho im supposedly such a cad like you say...more lies

[hoian]

Actually YOU are the one who is filled with bullshit. Twist and turn the truth and create lies to your convenience.

Use clones to dig for info (and swearing u have no clones).

Anyway, the recent posts have establised that you are big-time LIAR and certainly NOT a person with integrity.

Your only beef with me is that I saw through all your DECEIT. And that makes me your No. 1 target for character assassination.

see this is another example of your bullshit...

[lausung]

The truth is out, i did ask you for hotel info because i am curious to know which hotel cost only US$20 but same quality as hotel US$50-70. That is the why i am curious which hotel.
https://www.sammyboyforum.com/showpost.php?p=12901790&postcount=8278

As for the printscreen pm which u ask me to introduce girls, i did not know is a joke until now.
Since all truth have been out, you also clarify is a joke, lets just bury everything and stop fighting


That has already been establised as a lie. U used a clone to dig for info from lausung and he has already come forward to make things clear....that I did not "beg" for contacts.

[lausung]

Actually Mr Tom aka Mutantchicken did not lied, let me make a fair statement for him too. Before my first trip to vietnam, i talk to alot of bros including you and some are friends of H88. Despite unhappiness over the war create by him, they admit that Tom aka MC is legendary, one of the best in vietnam sex industry. I proceed to meet him secretly after fail attempt on wechat girls. I did not include that in my FR for fear of unhappiness.

I am happy over the places he brought me, just ask Wendella whom i gave him the 800K FS MP, he went there, came back and verify that the quality of girls are very good. These places are further pass on to densha and more people but it's origin from Tom aka MC.
Sharing is Caring.


Actually YOU are the one who is filled with bullshit. Twist and turn the truth and create lies to your convenience.

Use clones to dig for info (and swearing u have no clones).

[lausung]

No problem, i hope all these fight will come to an end.
No one gonna gain anything by winning the fight here.

thanks, mate, i dont like to expose who i bring around...nor do i pressure anyone to post fr report abt my trips...buts since you voluntarily post i can only acknowledge it and again thank you

[Wendella]

see this is another example of your bullshit...first you say that local guys have a gang rape behaviour, which is what i objected based on your club experience, which in your narrative you include in bia om which i know for a fact you dont have much experience in. then to prove you point it expands to local guys being able to mishandle moto girls, being able to rape them etc etc NOW the story shifts to the gang rape of a moto girls BUT the perpetrators is a local guys AND a FOREIGNER...and even if that whats to happen, what is wrong with a MMF scenario...on a the forum tehre are actually local guys who post looking for a 3rd guy to MMF their wifes and girls friends...if a girl is willing to have tow guys for ex tar money thats her choice...even some of teh online girls openly put 300k for 1 shot and if its 2 guys its 400k a shot... 2 guys and girl doenst mean they tormented her or anything...or are u saying they told u they physocally abused they girls beat her up engaged in some pretty nasty stuff, not just some throat fucking or whatever

sorry I'm in the middle of work, can't reply to all the points. I meant that SOME local guys here do have that aggressive mentality. Not all. It's not the norm. I thought I had made that clear in my previous posts. You seem to acknowledge that of course that does exist here so maybe we're not really too far apart on this issue. Yeah the problem is that the girls weren't always willing, didn't have any choice in the matter, and the guys got off on treating her disrespectfully. Not beat her up, no. But that other girl with cigarette burns, yeah, that's just evil shit. Just saying, this stuff happens. And girls working in those busier low-rung scenes are going to encounter these kinds of things and have no way to prevent it or avoid it.

[hoian]

Here we go. Another mystery solved.
First Tom-wadever denied ever contacting lausung.
Then lausung willingly admit being his customer.

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lausung: I have no beef with u. U can find any pimp u like, none of my biz. But I just dun like all these lies he is creating about me.

Tom-wadever confirmed LIAR.
Confirmed making up stories about me.
Case closed I guess.

...no proof i even have contact with lausung...

I proceed to meet him secretly after fail attempt on wechat girls...I am happy over the places he brought me...

[lausung]

He denied because i did not want to let people know i met him.
It is partly my fault. However i stand out and write because you have put alot of wrong accusation.

Me too have no beef with you but Tom aka MC motive is clear, so i contact him myself.
But for you, you pm me to meet up when i am in Vietnam.
Your motive are unclear.

I have not login to this forum for a long time. I could not understand why for a person with business or job like you have so much free time to come here and shoot someone everyday unless you are using this forum to benefit yourself. This is all but a cyberworld.

Get a life outside this forum please.
Bye bye

Here we go. Another mystery solved.
First Tom-wadever denied ever contacting lausung.
Then lausung willingly admit being his customer.

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lausung: I have no beef with u. U can find any pimp u like, none of my biz. But I just dun like all these lies he is creating about me.

Tom-wadever confirmed LIAR.
Confirmed making up stories about me.
Case closed I guess.

[hoian]

He said this... I said that. Lausung finally admits to being your customer. U and him are in cahoots. Anyway case closed.

...you said...i have used...

[lausung]

Nono Mr hoian dun mistaken. I am a tourist not in cahoots with him. After i left vietnam, no plans to return. I gave all the secret location to wendella, u can check with him if you dun believe. If i am in cahoots, i will never reveal those.
Please be reasonable, I always see you as a successful man, do not let anger cloud your mind.

I am just trying to illustrate, today i accuse u this, next day u accuse him that, no end to the argument. No one is going to gain anything.
Anyway have a nice day ahead.:)

Regards.
Lausung

He said this... I said that. Lausung finally admits to being your customer. U and him are in cahoots. Anyway case closed.

[hoian]

So now you are flatly denying that you, Tom-wadever, is a clone of mutantchicken who was banned from this forum?

Your other clones could be hoian-pukgai or hoian-father... i have no idea how many others there are. I am quite flattered that clone accts were actually created for the sole purpose of attacking me.
...then you accused me of using clones to ...

I have no anger. I come to this forum just for fun. I have no intention to meet anyone in person (following sammyboy-boss' advice). Although, I did break that rule once and met someone for supper just to kill time but that was definitely my first and last time.
...do not let anger cloud your mind...

[Wendella]

Nono Mr hoian dun mistaken. I am a tourist not in cahoots with him. After i left vietnam, no plans to return. I gave all the secret location to wendella, u can check with him if you dun believe. If i am in cahoots, i will never reveal those.
Please be reasonable, I always see you as a successful man, do not let anger cloud your mind.

I am just trying to illustrate, today i accuse u this, next day u accuse him that, no end to the argument. No one is going to gain anything.
Anyway have a nice day ahead.:)

Regards.
Lausung

All the secret locations? Huh? I remember one in PN on a small alley type street. I remember that you told me one on a big main street but wrong address. Also a street with cafe oms that you said weren't there any more (I never did go check that street btw) What else? Oh ok we're in open forum, so don't answer that -- but I don't remember you sharing any other 'secret locations' other than these.. did you?...

Oh and I remember you asking me to please not let anyone know how I got the info. ;)

Tom PM'd me and was not too pleased.

Tom why were you pissed off at ME?

Honestly back then it was driving me nuts that I didn't know where those airport places moved to. Then I found out 3 of them, and never did even try them. Only found out the one in TB recently. Alice I found driving round, walking in.

When I first found out about them I did let a few people know, but for last few months haven't shared them. If guys pm interested in FS MP I point them toward LHP now.

[Wendella]

Your other clones could be hoian-pukgai or hoian-father... i have no idea how many others there are. I am quite flattered that clone accts were actually created for the sole purpose of attacking me.


I think those are someone else, same guy who does the Wende11a clone. I think it's a guy who also used to flame a lot in his own name, way over the line type stuff. He used to use his own handle but then started with all these clones. (I suspect, I'm not sure about any of this) I don't remember what his original handle is, maybe someone here does. I can see where you would think it might be Tom/MC. I also got confused and started thinking so at one point, PM'd Tom to find out No it wasn't him.

[hoian]

I said "could be"... I dunno for sure who they are. Could be some jealous guy who needs attention. In any case, it doesn't bother me. I just ignore those clowns/clones.

I think those are someone else, same guy who does the Wende11a clone. I think it's a guy who also used to flame a lot in his own name, way over the line type stuff. He used to use his own handle but then started with all these clones. (I suspect, I'm not sure about any of this) I don't remember what his original handle is, maybe someone here does. I can see where you would think it might be Tom/MC. I also got confused and started thinking so at one point, PM'd Tom to find out No it wasn't him.

[lausung]

Yup u pm me to ask for the location of those FS MP, and later cafe om, i see that u are pro sharing info so i pass whatever info i have to u. U did eventually found the big street one and came back to tell me.

Originally i told u to keep it a secret, but u circulate around to densha and another guy. Densha post openly in another forum, u got worry and pm me.
Another guy leak out himself, he said u use it to swap for info with him because he found the last FS MP at TB. But anyway thats not important anymore.
This all the more show i am not in cahoot with Tom.

All the secret locations? Huh? I remember one in PN on a small alley type street. I remember that you told me one on a big main street but wrong address. Also a street with cafe oms that you said weren't there any more (I never did go check that street btw) What else? Oh ok we're in open forum, so don't answer that -- but I don't remember you sharing any other 'secret locations' other than these.. did you.

[lausung]

You come to this forum for fun and spend tons of ur time shooting people.
Our Mr hoian must be the biggest clown of all time.:eek:


I have no anger. I come to this forum just for fun. I have no intention to meet anyone in person (following sammyboy-boss' advice). Although, I did break that rule once and met someone for supper just to kill time but that was definitely my first and last time.

[Wendella]

Originally i told u to keep it a secret, but u circulate around to densha and another guy. Densha post openly in another forum, u got worry and pm me.
Another guy leak out himself, he said u use it to swap for info with him because he found the last FS MP at TB. But anyway thats not important anymore.
This all the more show i am not in cahoot with Tom.
Ah ok, I didn't remember all the details of that episode. But yeah now I remember we were PM'ing about the Densha thing. This was in September or around there, I think.

[hoian]

At least I am not a liar like u. Pretending to be humble.. PM everyone for info about VN... then secretly engaging a pimp and trying to keep it a secret.

What I do with my time is my business. And I don't shoot "people". I only shoot liars.

You come to this forum for fun and spend tons of ur time shooting people.
Our Mr hoian must be the biggest clown of all time.:eek:

[lausung]

I stand up for Tom not because i am in cahoots with him
But u are spouting nonsense and wrong accusation.

If i dont pm everyone to ask, how do i know who is the joker, who is the right person to approach. Lucky i never waste my time to meet u.:p

I only pm u for hotel info but in return u ask me for girls contact and pm me to meet up.
I really wonder are u the real con man.

At least I am not a liar like u. Pretending to be humble.. PM everyone for info about VN... then secretly engaging a pimp and trying to keep it a secret.

What I do with my time is my business. And I don't shoot "people". I only shoot liars.

[Wendella]

What I wanna know is why you guys are all home typing posts on the forum now.

I know why I am, have to work early tomorrow.

[hoian]

I just wanna highlight why your credibility is worth shit.

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Here u are, trying to act nice and say you are NOT in cahoots with him.
Nono Mr hoian dun mistaken. I am a tourist not in cahoots with him. After i left vietnam, no plans to return. I gave all the secret location to wendella, u can check with him if you dun believe. If i am in cahoots, i will never reveal those.

I am just trying to illustrate, today i accuse u this, next day u accuse him that, no end to the argument. No one is going to gain anything.
Anyway have a nice day ahead.:)

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Here you are... feeling ashamed that you have engaged the services of a pimp. If I were your parents, I would be ashamed, too.
He denied because i did not want to let people know i met him... Me too have no beef with you but Tom aka MC motive is clear, so i contact him myself.

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Here u are harping on me wanting to meet u. Dun flatter yourself. You are a clueless newbie in VN. What could u possibly offer me?

Come to think of it, I think u made up all those stories about your success in VN, fucking this gal and that gal just to boost your ego. If u had been as successful as u sound, why would u need to hire a 3rd grade pimp? Hmm...
But for you, you pm me to meet up when i am in Vietnam. Your motive are unclear.

[hoian]

Wow... now u are angry with me for not being your customer? Goodness, you only earn US$100 for your pimp services? That's really pitiful.
...he spends 100usd, saves him 5hrs where he can go and earn 100usd in 1hr...thats teh difference btw him and YOU...you are a low paid worker thats why you try save penny...what has his decision to hire a guide got to with being humble or not

Wow... self-made retiree having to prowl back lanes looking for cheap whores just for 100 bucks a customer. What an eye-opener... lol.
..why shouldnt i be posting now im a 30something self made early retiree...i dont have to work....

[lausung]

The person who yearn for credibility is you :p
If u think i make up story then why bother ask me for contact? Are you teling me you are stupid?
Heres your pm to me, i dun even bother to meet u.
Still wanna act VN expert? :p

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Here u are harping on me wanting to meet u. Dun flatter yourself. You are a clueless newbie in VN. What could u possibly offer me?

Come to think of it, I think u made up all those stories about your success in VN, fucking this gal and that gal just to boost your ego. If u had been as successful as u sound, why would u need to hire a 3rd grade pimp? Hmm...

[lausung]

He begging for my girl's contact and begging for me to meet him too.
He must be angry that i reject him both times. Despite i print screen the evidence, he still can go on argue his point :eek:
Now hoian has become a mad dog in this forum, pity his parents. :D

thats explains why u need to go around begging to exchange points....

[lausung]

I couldnt help laughing when read ur commentary, let me make my last statement.
How to believe a model will sleep with him in a 20 dollar hotel. He must be prowling the street looking for dark skin girl and taking them to his hotel. They are his so called "Model". :rolleyes:

Dun have time to play this game anymore.
Ciao
recommend a 20 dollar hotel filled with cockroaches when a similar hotel can be found is a local area for 15 dollars tahts both cleaner and roomier...and then you tell people you are a travel agent hahah...stay in 20 dolar hotel room thats tiny filled with vermin...

[hoian]

Yep...u pretended to be a nice guy and had me fooled. Let me interpret that msg for u since u r not too good with English.

1) I am done fucking my gal and she needs to go to work.

2) I have some time to kill... and since u were asking me 101 questions abt VN and gal-friendly hotels etc... I thought ya... u can call me if u want to... I can explain things better in person. That does not translate to "I wanna meet u". On hindsight, I am glad I did not meet another low-life.

3) By publishing my phone number, you thought u are being "smart" and make me worried, right? Those are disposable SIM cards. It just shows how lowly a creature u are... in the end when your cover is blown. I would never stoop so low as to expose ppl's personal lives. Like when Tom/MC's cover was blown and his photo was being passed around. I just looked at it and deleted it.

Likewise your telling me about this gal... which dept store she worked (whether true or not)... I just deleted the info.

So how? Proven liar and lowlife with no integrity... still wanna be in this forum arguing with me? Go secretly looking for a pimp and can tell me to get a life? :p

The person who yearn for credibility is you :p
If u think i make up story then why bother ask me for contact? Are you teling me you are stupid?
Heres your pm to me, i dun even bother to meet u.
Still wanna act VN expert? :p

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[Wendella]

Somewhere back in this thread is a post that attacks me. I'm just gonna reply by memory cuz it's too hard to find on my phone.

Densha/Ecchi posted about a FS MP but didn't include the address. This back around September or so. Does hat ring any bells? I don't remember specifics but it was in trying to check if that was same place that Lausang had just told me, I asked him if this was the place. Maybe he remembers this better than I do, and can say how it happened. Shortly after that he blabbed out the address in the thread, and I was surprised and inmediately contacted Lausang to apologize, because yes I did break my word to him by doing that. He seemed to take it in stride and I'm pretty sure he said its fine to share that info now. (Lausang feel free to chime in of you remember how this went down -- I deleted all my PM's, I have no records of anything any more).

Tom, I wish you wouldn't get upset about this stuff. And please don't say things like "your sad life" and that kind of thing. You know I would never say something like that to you. And I think you do realize I'm not as bad as you make me out to be here. You have a real tendency to gravitate to he harshest view of people, quite critical of people in general. I really try to filter that stuff when talking with you, not take it seriously because it seems like it's part of your makeup. And I quite enjoy talking to you about the substantive stuff or the hobby. This stuff with you and Hoian
Is pretty out of control and not really any point to it. I skip over most of it.

Back to the FS MP stuff. Because some here, MC particlilarly, don't like that info to be out there, I'm respecting that and not sharing it -- there was a time back in November or so when I did share it a bit. But I stopped. I apologized to the guy who I owed an apology to. It doesn't erase my fuckup, I know. At that time I don't think Tom and I were even on speaking terms. Anyway, I'm not sure it's worth all this. IF those places get shut, they'll reopen elsewhere. I doubt Tom depends on his tour biz much, so that's not it.

Wish we could talk about the good stuff instead.

[Wendella]

why you know that le duyen 4 and similar places do hj now...thats what he wants he doenst want to go to the massage places like DN and VD etc for a hj...btw i have had UNCOMFIRMED rumours of d1 hotocs like le duyen4 but not those in the same area as LD4, where a bj is 800k, cant remembr if that incl vIP room fee, and if want fs then take her to nearby hotel for 3mill
I'm told the ones on NCT do HJ. BJ not sure.

Whoa. 800 for BJ and 3 mil FS, they would need to be seriously hot. Which, let's face it, never happens.

[Wendella]

For all your posts abt how effective you are communicating via google translate, and how popular u are being a foreigner with the girls...its sad that u had to pay a extra 200k to lure girls so they would agree to meet you.... definately a good reason for me not to tell you abt local places as with your behaviour it wont be long before they think all foreigners are stupid and desperate that they are willing to pay more for the same product....thats what annoys me, u forigners complain how in d1 you guys are being ripped off and overcharged..one price for foreigners and one price of locals...and yet when push comes to shove you WILLING pay more even when u know what the charge is...fucken hypocrites...and were u the fucker who argued that girls willingly go with foreigners on the other site..and that foreigners will have no probs hooking up with these girls...if you are gonna pay a extra 200k each time to meet these girls maybe u should pay someone to teach u how to read and write vietnamese or i know ill do teh translation and texting for u, ill charge only 100k each contact hahaha
Hypocrites! :D
It was actually more complicated than I told it. When I texted her to say I went to the wrong hotel but I would be there in 5 minutes, she misunderstood and then CAME to that wrong hotel just to then find out I wasn't there. About foreigner surcharge, normally there'd be no problem, girl would come to room and all good. It was only cuz she learned I was foreigner via SMS that she had the chance to pull that one. Negotiation tactic. She knew I was in a room already, had committed.

[Wendella]

yeah the ones on nct i have heard do something extra i think it was hj and this was mentioned like last year, i have heard the other ones in a diff area are the 800k, 3 mill thing ie recently, but im pretty sure the op asked abt ld4 and those in the immediate area around ld4...those i havent heard anything

did you look at the quality of what's on offer for 3mil?

I just find it hard to believe there can be girls here who'd seem worth that.

[Wendella]

LINH is at another place..loan in my book is more MILFY...id also give her a 6.5 as she def older...as i said i gave them all roughly 6.5 cuz say phuc yeah i agree face is prettier but she doenst have the tall slender shape trinh has nor has she that youthfulness chi has...loan is older looks sluttier etc...service wise, trinh, then loan, then phuc then chi..she doenst have the technique

OK I see now. Just went back and looked at his earlier post, didn't remember details of it. So this could be anywhere.

One thing I tuned into. With my last 2 website girls, both outstanding BJ's, a notch better than the cafe oms, I notice those girls lie down between your legs whereas the cafe om ones sit to the side and lean down. Not sure why but there's a certain something extra I think due to the positioning. Though it's also what they do with their mouth of course. That said, there's certain things done in the cafe om that are better than what my web girls did. Deep throat for example. (and then the cost, like is the website girl really 5-6 times as good as the cafe om girl at BJ ... probably not).

This 800/3 mil place, is it one where you would be able to choose your girl? If its a massage where you are assigned one, the rest kept hidden, yeah that's probably not even worth checking out.

[Wendella]

i always prefer the girls next to me so my hand can finger their pussy...i get the best bj at hottoc....as to the 800/3m place its operates like HY in q10...and the thing u mention where the girls are hidden from you...i think thats a problem ONLY you encounter...i always get offered the full range...and one last mention maybe its due to my age maybe it due to the sheer number of girls i get in a week/month /year...but the reason i go get sex/bj isnt due to the bj etc itself...its due to teh fact that i can meet new girls, see them naked get to feel their naked bodies ...so very much like the things u and pting mention ie finding something to do to extend that 30-40min you would get in a fj encounter...cafe om - 100k for 20mins, webgirls 600k for 40mins, so for that 600k i can get to experience 6 cafe om girls for 120min...its not even that important the whole bj...some days when i go exploreing to mytho binh dung or whatever where it takes me a long time to get there, i often go get bj from 4-5 girls...and in those situations i dont even care abt the bj just as long as she puts her mouth near my dick and i get to finger and play with her tits....and the cost is only 100k or so, i KNOW i wont be able to cum...so how well the bj is performed is a small issue

I see. Not many of us go on excursions like that. Wish I could.

the thing I mention with massage is where you come in and get sent to a room and a girl of their choosing shows up, there's no lineup selection like in HY. That seems common at massage places.

My Tho, did you find those cafe oms I saw coming back from Mekong?

[Wendella]

ps i got zapped by some cowards saying i talk to much so unless it directly deals with paid sex better take this to pm

Yeah this is a web forum, there's not supposed to be any talking here. :D I often get that one, a few at once usually. Suspect it's from same person using clones. Oh! Who could it be?

Retard(s).

My reasons for not having time are pretty good, trust me. I can't say more without giving over private details.

After this last one, I'm definitely done with the cafe girls. And in fact as it has been in decline, last 2 weeks, I've gone out to find things to take my mind off it. Hence the reports.

Yesterday a weird thing happened. I went on wechat (another thing I do to take my mind off) and spotted a girl I knew from a cafe a while back, one I very much had the hots for then but never did anything about, just talked in the cafe, enjoyed the eye candy and company. My wechat profile is totaly anonymous, use fake name and photo. Anyway, I messaged her and got a reply that indeed it is for "services" -- but now a dilemma. Maybe a dilemma. With Wechat you never know. Is it real or fake? So assuming the pics are real, what to do. I only know this girl from real life. So if I reply to this offer and meet at a hotel, anonymously, and she shows up at the door, well, that's gonna be WEIRD when she sees it's me. I mean, she'd freak out, almost surely. And that'd be a pretty sleazy underhanded way of doing it. But if I went to her cafe, well it's back to square one, "would you like to go out some time?" (UGH) "Hey you aren't by any chance a prostitute are you?" So these 2 options seem pretty bad.

But of course I still dunno if it's the real girl or not. So I decide to just go on wechat and get some talk going. There's definitely a 1.2mil offer on the table. I intersperse some key questions to check. She tells me wrong district where she lives. She tells me she has no motorbike (wrong again). And she tells me her name is Huong (strike 3!). (yes I realize even if it's really her, she might lie about these just to protect her privacy) (also the Engilsh is way too good -- strike 4) And I tell her I wanna meet the girl in the photo, is she sure that's really her. Yes she's sure. OK, because I think I meet that girl before. Long pause. Then she comes back with now she's busy with her BF and I can meet THIS GIRL (photo of other girl sent). Aha. OK so now it's looking like these are just borrowed photos being used, typical bait and switch. I pressed her on that, said look it's ok but I think that photo not really you, right? Then I said that girl has a motorbike, I know. I said I only want to meet girl in the photo, I don't want to meet other girl, can I meet that girl or can not? Then I get a reply You are Vietnamese. Don't bother me. (WTF!!!)

From that point on, my messages were blocked.

So I'm 99.99% sure it's just someone who grabbed my friend's photos. Or it could possibly be (doubt it) that it's really her and she freaked out about meeting someone who might already know her. Or maybe really did get paranoid about it being a cop or something? Nah, no way.

[hoian]

Some pimp mentioned that place not worth it. Glad u liked it.

...Minh tam 2 very far from the place I lived. The place was huge, there were a lot of rooms I guess. As usual I choose the VIP room, when I enter the room I was quite amazed, there was a sofa, stylish bath tub, and they served fruits and water. The lady enter, fair skin ,cute, the boobs was full, it reminds me of Meghan trainor song, All About That Breast. She is super GFE, I was completely did not lift my finger, she passionately bathing and washing me, every part , every corner of my body…even when I want to dry myself with the towel after bath, she took over it, she gently rubbing my body with the towel. Like you mopping your car after you washed it. After the ritual, which cost me 400K, she asked me to sit on the sofa, while she sat next to me, peeling the fruit and put it into my mouth… Even your wife won’t do that for you for god Sake !!! …

[lausung]

I am talking to Tom about vietnam culture when you pop up here. He is kind enough to share with me his experience in Vietnam.
Well you are the real pimp, intro a 20 dollar hotel and claim it is 5 star hotel equivalent to a 70 dollar hotel. I never really bother to stay your cockroach infested 20 dollar hotel, just enterain u when u pm me.

You ask me to intro my girl to u, probably you cannot find pretty girl to work for your pimping service. You create a fake story of having Vietnam model girls sleeping with you in your 20 dollar hotel. You must have pimp those dark skin girls and put them there instead. Lucky i find excuse not to meet u when u pm me.

You try recommend your girls through wechat to a few bros here, none of them not interested when they see the quality of the girls u have, probably most are dark skin girls right? You become angry after they reject your girls.

You are the real snake oil man. Now being exposed, you get angry and come back to create trouble. Look at my attached post, most people will understand. Guys, becareful of this hoian. Who is the real pimp? This is how a stealth agent approach, pretend to make friend and recommend you some good deal. Then they sell his pimping service to you, recommend some model girl but in actual fact are lousy girls.

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Some pimp mentioned that place not worth it. Glad u liked it.

[hoian]

For readers of this thread who are wondering what the saga is all about; who said what etc, the following is a summary:

Hoian:
- Accused of never having been to VN (yet somehow he has a VN mobile number at one time and can understand VN)
- Accused of being a 50+ old man living in his mum's basement
- Accused of begging for contacts of whores in VN
- Latest accusation is that Hoian is a "stealth agent"... (not sure what that means).
Conclusion: Tom is running out of accusations. He, himself, is confused and can't make up his mind whether Hoian has been to VN or not; and why he would need whore contacts in VN if he has never entered the country.

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Why Tom/MC hates Hoian so much?
- Hoian spotted & revealed that Tom is a clone of mutantchicken who was previously banned from this forum for being a troublemaker.
- Hoian understands VN and noted that the whores that Tom posted on this forum were ripped off from the VN sex forums.
- Hoian sees through all Tom's attempt at click-bait to lure unsuspecting newbies to use his services

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Truths about Tom/MC:
- Said to be the son of Vietnamese boat ppl escaping VN during the war
- Believed to have been dropped on his head while his mum was giving birth to him resulting in a head trauma... he basically "sees" things and hallucinates a lot. Hence all his incredible stories about Hoian.
- Had a hard time adjusting and trying to fit in while growing up in his adopted country. Hence he had to move back to VN to make a living.
- Couldn't find a proper job while back in VN due to his medical problem. Ends up pimping instead (but tells his mum that he is a rich & retired at 30-something... a hallucination). Fact is, if someone is rich, he would not need to find cheap whores in dark alleys and ends up being whacked with a broom.
- Tom's modus operandi is similar to bringing unsuspecting Arab tourists in S'pore to Geylang to find WLs at $30 a pop. The Arab tourists will end up feeling very grateful to Tom for taking them to a "secret" hideout called Geylang.
- Customers like Lausung who are clueless about VN are like those Arabs.

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Lausung (minor character who recently surfaced in a feeble attempt to protect his pimp):

- A dim-witted two-faced character (in Chinese we call "double-headed snake") who appears on the scene around May 2015 appearing to be humble and needing guidance (his good acting even fooled Hoian).
- Initiated contact with Hoian via PM on 3 May 2015 under the pretext of asking for hotel info.
- Resorted to making up stories about having some luck with the local VN working gals (which later turned out to be fantasy tales)
- In reality, he secretly engaged the services of Tom the pimp for US$100 because of his failure in VN.
- Recently got found out and turned around and said Hoian "begged" him for gal contact (very likely acting under instructions from his pimp)
- Lausung has recently announced that he will not be back in VN again, having explored the "Geylang" back lanes of Saigon. And has passed all his useless information to Wendella.
- His pimp Tom claims he is "highly educated and highly paid professional"... which leads us to wonder then why he needs to look for a 3rd grade pimp to help him source for cheap whores in back alleys? And also why he needs to suss around for cheap motels ($15 - 20 range)?
- In reality he has not had much success hence had to resort to paying Tom US$100 to be his pimp... bring him on his motorbile to dark alleys to find the cheap whores.

[lausung]

Stealth agent after being exposed, Bros beware of this "hoian"
Nothing to offer but his pimping service of those girls he call them "model"

Hoian wrote about his success as a businessman in vietnam but have so much time in sammyboyforum writing nonsense.
Who you really want to smoke? Sounds like a loser writing your story to make readers believe u...anyway enough exposing u...have a fun time here.

if you are not a stealth agent, then u must have a real pitiful character :p
Despite all the evidence i post, you still can deny, u are a real thick skin stealth agent.

It is good enough if others does not fall for your trick, i dont really mind being flame by you.
It is my last post, up to reader to decide. Just Beware of this snake con man "hoian"


- His pimp Tom claims he is "highly educated and highly paid professional"... which leads us to wonder then why he needs to look for a 3rd grade pimp to help him source for cheap whores in back alleys? And also why he needs to suss around for cheap motels ($15 - 20 range)?
- In reality he has not had much success hence had to resort to paying Tom US$100 to be his pimp... bring him on his motorbile to dark alleys to find the cheap whores.

[hoian]

This Lausung lowly character claimed to have fucked one of the local gals and guess what... posted her photo online.

I thought that is such a despicable act... but I gave him the benefit of the doubt thinking he is just a newbie so I advised him to take down the photo and not expose innocent gals unnecessarily.

See my advice to him in the PM.

Initially I had wanted to cut him some slack, let the matter rest, not wanna exposed him too much since he is a newbie. But since he is adamant about protecting his pimp, I have no choice but to post his PM to me in its FULL context so that bros can make up their minds who is the despicable cad here.

Now both the pimp Tom and his loyal customer Lausung are accusing me of being a "stealth agent.". That means I am covertly trying to earn money or something. If there is anyone here whom I have ever asked for money, pls speak up... and I will self-exile myself from this Forum.

Tom/MC, however, have been using this Forum to lure newbies as customers without paying the Forum owner advertising fees. He is actually the "stealth agent" ... case of the pot calling the kettle black.

PS: If there is one thing I am guilty of, it is wanting to meet more locals in the south so that I can improve my spoken Vietnamese further as I had first learnt VN in Hanoi... not really interested in sex with strangers as I already have my own frens in VN. This Lausung turned this around by saying I "begged" him for contacts. Well... I leave to u guys to decide who is telling the truth.

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/22321/22321992ccf05ed3d09b0fa9f6c95ea164f19238.jpg


Stealth agent after being exposed, Bros beware of this "hoian" ...Nothing to offer but his pimping service of those girls he call them "model"... It is my last post, up to reader to decide.

[hoian]

Here is lausung again where he LIED in 4 instances. Said he prefers DIY, dun need a guide... fact is... while he is lying to me... he is also negotiating with his pimp Tom/MC to take him around for US$100.

Frankly, it is his business if he engages a pimp. I dun give a rat's ass. But I dun see why he needs to lie about it... just to pretend to be my "friend"?

You guys decide. Can u trust a LIAR?

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/22322/223220537752904d92bc6f52660984d8b773f31d.jpg

[hoian]

LOL that's a feeble attempt to cover up for your customer. The photo he posted was not masked if memory serves me right... u just conveniently added the word. It even shows the gal's name tag which shows where she works.

Now where is the proof that I am a stealth agent?

...and he posted her masked pic..whats wrong with that...

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Sorry mates..seriously why are you guys arguing about something which most of us don't care? I'm curious ...the last few pages of this thread are non informative except arguments ...

Not tired meh:(
Live in Sillypore so stress already...still argue over small things ...this is a virtual platform where you guys don't even know each other..why argue with someone you don't even know :confused:

Make money and have more sex is more sextisfying ..life so short :)

[hoian]

Here is a 3rd grade pimp claiming to have made so much money that he needs to look for cheap whores and end up getting whacked with a broom. Can u believe this guy? :p

Btw where is the proof that I am a stealth agent? Still waiting for it...

i make enough money and have enough sex so i need to do something like flaming idiots to make me feel normal.....ps im still WAITING your INFORMATIVE post

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Tom...you see...that's the thing about virtual forum...no one knows what you say is true or not...everyone can claim what they are..like both of you can claim you are superman or president or...whatever you like....but in real life who knows?...you're not going to go into Times magazine or the news after you win a debate or something...

if i have to guess just for fun...it seems hoian and Tom is the same person..why? because always reply to each other so fast...like already predicted how to reply in 1 min :(

knn..i think i better go sleep...:D

Good night all...

[xiaomaomi3232]

frankly speaking, as GeMiNiZzzzZzz has mentioned.

most of us don't really care about this argument & It's been dragged on long enough.

[lausung]

Who are u kidding? I edit her photo with face masked. Most bro in this forum will ask for contact but u took an extra step ask me to remove her pic then ask for contact. You afraid others will reach her first so stop acting like good guy.

You try to sell ur girls thru wechat but when some bros reject after they see the girls, u get angry.
I just want to warn others beware of pimp like u.
I do not have so much time like u fighting for credibility in online world unless u are......hehe:rolleyes:

Ciao

This Lausung lowly character claimed to have fucked one of the local gals and guess what... posted her photo online.

I thought that is such a despicable act... but I gave him the benefit of the doubt thinking he is just a newbie so I advised him to take down the photo and not expose innocent gals unnecessarily.]

[hoian]

Your credibility is worth ZERO because you have been PROVEN as a LIAR.
Any more famous last words? :rolleyes:

Now where is the proof that I am a "stealth agent"?

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/22322/223220537752904d92bc6f52660984d8b773f31d.jpg

Who are u kidding? ...You try to sell ur girls thru wechat but when some bros reject after they see the girls, u get angry.
I just want to warn others beware of pimp like u....

[hoian]

Anyway my challenge still remains...show me the evidence that I asked for money or is a stealth agent... and I will banish myself from this forum.

No proof dun talk cock sing song. :cool:

[hoianfather]

My retarded son, you are such a disgrace. Since when did you become a pimp.
Now even moderator also kick you out from the main thread.

Anyway my challenge still remains...show me the evidence that I asked for money or is a stealth agent... and I will banish myself from this forum.

No proof dun talk cock sing song. :cool:

[Wendella]

then i saw u tonight!!!
Sorry man, not me. Home last night and you know where I was Friday night. Description doesn't fit me in any way. Wave? Please.

But your tone, had it been me, dude what is up with you. Why the need to be so insulting. You thought that was me, so that was intended for me.

And the previous post, man, yeah please don't address me. You're such a turn-off. It's tedious. I've reached my limit of you. Taking a break.

[hoian]

Another case of pot calling kettle black. I've seen many failed Viet Keus returning to VN and not being able to fit in... most nights they are drowning their sorrows with cheap bia. Generally ignored by the locals. Their adopted homeland dun welcome them either. So they are like trapped in limbo. Hence their disillusions with life and rude demeanour.

However, u pay him US$100 to be his customer and he will kiss your butt.. say u are God's greatest gift to mankind.

...Why the need to be so insulting. You thought that was me, so that was intended for me....

[hoianpukgai]

Another idiotic comment as if you are the xpert but in fact you know so little.
WHAT A IDIOT.

Another case of pot calling kettle black. I've seen many failed Viet Keus returning to VN and not being able to fit in... most nights they are drowning their sorrows with cheap bia.

[hoian]

Next time when u travel to VN bring along a cheebye cleanser like Vagisil which are not commonly sold in VN. Teach the gal how to wash her cb. :D

Hi all brothers check with u all. i have Full service by many hcmc girl. The problem is that many of many bad chee bye smell under the blanket. Anyone know what is the reason? Try many 50% of the girls have bad smell once fully naked under the blanket. piss off by the strong smell. Any Brother know please advise. Thks

[Bote]

Bring Vagisil and teach them to wash cb :eek:
Once in a while we will have a moron giving stupid advice.

Next time when u travel to VN bring along a cheebye cleanser like Vagisil which are not commonly sold in VN. Teach the gal how to wash her cb. :D

[Luke0skywalker]

I cannot help but agree. All his post are nothing but rubbish.
A better term for him "turd"

Bring Vagisil and teach them to wash cb :eek:
Once in a while we will have a moron giving stupid advice.

[hoian]

U r actually the imbecile (lower than a moron) for not recognizing it as a joke in reply to a nonsensical posting. And here we also have a pimp who suddenly became a medical expert.... as if he has with him a bottle of iodine each time he checks out the back alley whores.

Bring Vagisil and teach them to wash cb :eek:
Once in a while we will have a moron giving stupid advice.

[Bote]

A moronic reply confirm you are a moron.
You also as if carry a Vagisil everytime you meet girl
Did your father always use Vagisil on your mother? :eek:

U r actually the imbecile (lower than a moron) for not recognizing it as a joke in reply to a nonsensical posting. And here we also have a pimp who suddenly became a medical expert.

[Luke0skywalker]

Didn't i told u, this chap "hoian" a fuck turd seeking attention.
Poor boy must be pathetic in real life...just ignored him
He is only capable of posting rubbish.

A moronic reply confirm you are a moron.
You also as if carry a Vagisil everytime you meet girl
Did your father always use Vagisil on your mother? :eek:

[Bote]

huh...ok now i understand he is low intelligent being. It is ok, i can forgive him. I also don't want argue with him.
But best samster don't share contact with this kind of people.
lets see how stupid hoian is...someone ask a serious question and he makes a reply that a uneducated person (hoian is stupid after all so well within his capability) might consider is a serious answer after all vagisil is a product to wash the vagina..if he joke why not say wash with nuoc mam...then everyone know its a joke...instead after being exposed for being stupid, he then say he joking...just like how i said he was begging a samster for contacts of whores..

Didn't i told u, this chap "hoian" a fuck turd seeking attention.
Poor boy must be pathetic in real life...just ignored him

[hoian]

LOL its so easy for me to flush out the clones. Here we go...

Mutantchicken... banned. Now back as a clone called Tom-watever.
Luke-watever... confirmed clone of Tom/MC.

Notice how fast they talk to each other and reply in the same style. How all their FRs are fake.

Now all exposed. Case closed. Jeez, I wonder how many clones he has.

Didn't i told u, this chap "hoian" a fuck turd seeking attention.
Poor boy must be pathetic in real life...just ignored him
He is only capable of posting rubbish.

[GeMiNiZzzzZzz]

Here we go again......lets see how long all these conversation gets deleted again.. :D

[lost99]

lets see how stupid hoian is...someone ask a serious question and he makes a reply that a uneducated person (hoian is stupid after all so well within his capability) might consider is a serious answer after all vagisil is a product to wash the vagina..if he joke why not say wash with nuoc mam...then everyone know its a joke...instead after being exposed for being stupid, he then say he joking...just like how i said he was begging a samster for contacts of whores...fiorst he deny it, then later he say he joking...the only joke i see is you hoian...and lets say we give you the benefit of the doubt that you were indeed joking, then what kind of person are you where someone come here honestly looking for advice and you mock him my making a joke out of him....and YOU are always claiming how helpful you are...damn shameful...and why wouldnt I carry a bottle of iodine around they are only 15ml in size, but i only check girls that have clean unsmelly vagina, if i meet one thats unclean i just refuse, plus pharmacy is everywhere its easy to purchase a bottle for 10k dong so i dont need to carry one around, but if i did i dont see how that is a huge burden

This Bozo/Clone/retard also jump around other International threads to talk crap and start trouble. How come you write sentences like an uneducated child? Do you understand the use of Grammar, punctuation, and sentences? His posts are very confusing and hard to read, uses an ellipsis as a period to end a sentence, even kids know better. Then he insults people and calls them stupid children, when he acts like a crying baby himself. He should be banned, does not contribute anything positive, just a trouble maker.

[hoian]

It won't be the first time as he has been banned before as mutantchicken. He has been monopolising this Vietnam thread for too long...whenever I am too busy to expose him. All his 500-word ramblings with no real info... meant as click-bait to lure unsuspecting newbies.

He should be banned, does not contribute anything positive, just a trouble maker.

[Bote]

Moderator should ban you instead.
Troll and troublemaker

It won't be the first time as he has been banned before as mutantchicken. He has been monopolising this Vietnam thread for .

[hoian]

Where is your good friend SEAJ? He used to be Tom/MC's partner-in-crime.

Wow! Things is getting exciting.
Finally got some supporters from both side. :D

[lost99]

It won't be the first time as he has been banned before as mutantchicken. He has been monopolising this Vietnam thread for too long...whenever I am too busy to expose him. All his 500-word ramblings with no real info... meant as click-bait to lure unsuspecting newbies.

It's Ironic that he calls out people as being stupid, when he can't even form coherent sentences. I mean, he's so ignorant, he called me out for my personal "subjective" beauty scale, saying it had to follow an absolute bell curve - doesn't even understand what the concept of "subjective" is.

On top of all that, he's the biggest Carrot I've ever met. I think he has no friends and women in his life - he has to come here and pick on people here to feel better about himself. Very very sad dude.

[lost99]

wow you come over here as well....more ellipsis as you are not worthy of me proofreading or botehring with spellcheck etc...its not that hard to understand if im bringing you over here as well....dont you undertstand, the aim of boss is to give the impression there is alot of readership and views so as to charge more advertising fees, by me bringing you over here, just improves his business model...you however go around stealing pictures from other websites then post it back here with the implication you have had sex with them...then after being exposed for do that you cry and say you have been misunderstood..not sure how that helps boss...mayeb u will be the one banned.....unless you also here to steal pictures then beg people as where to find such girls...i can see why you and hoian would get along, no need to thank me for the introductions Hoian..begger for contacts of whores...meet lost99..stealer of pictures and begger fro contacts of big breasted girls

ps lost99 i saw your signature..abt your planed trip to bandung etc, you ask people to pm you if interested what would that mean, what are the conditions..care to elaborate


Have you learned to spell properly, write coherent sentences that don't run on forever, use proper grammar and punctuation? I think you are the only person in the world who understands your crazy senseless illogical writings. I mean, my 6 year old nephew writes clearer than you. Yet you have the gall to call others 'stupid'. You should look in the mirror for a prime example of that instead.

Your inane ramblings just waste space here. Go find a constructive hobby, instead of your useless ramblings here that make no sense at all. Oh yeah, the Jakarta trip is for Adults only, so I don't think you'd qualify. Maybe Disneyland would suit your maturity level better.

[lost99]

my instincts say you are a steath agent

My instincts tell me you have some sort of mental retardation, and that you were likely dropped on the head as a Child. You didn't get enough love from your parents and didn't have any friends growing up. You are full of self-rage and anger. So you come here to pick on others to build up your shallow self-esteem, and find some semblance of self-worth, which is lacking to say the least.

Ask yourself this - how can i be an Agent in Jakarta when i live 15,000 kms away and visit there only 1-2 times a year? Read my location DUMBASS! Clearly, your mental process is quite lacking.

I'm going to do you a favor and give you your first English lesson.

This is an ellipsis: "...", it indicates an omission of a word, sentence or part of a sentence.

This is a period: "." , it indicates an end of a sentence

Maybe after you master the differences between these two, we can go onto how to write an actual paragraph.

[hoian]

But now your good friend Tom/MC says everyone else is a stealth agent... myself included.

Oooo... so scary... I see dead people.... :cool:

SEAJ? KAPUT! :D
Can't you see the forum is now peace without him. No more stealth agent thingy.;)

[Bote]

I believe you are not a stealth agent.
Based on your post, you are moron. :p

But now your good friend Tom/MC says everyone else is a stealth agent... myself included.
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[Bote]

Bro player79,

Glad you get a correct answer.
Some moron must have stink mouth that he need to carry vagisil to rinse his mouth. Better dont follow his stupid advice.
Thks brother for your reply. I have meet a few girl with smelly chee bye smell. Now i know. Thks

Next time when u travel to VN bring along a cheebye cleanser like Vagisil which are not commonly sold in VN. Teach the gal how to wash her cb. :D

[lost99]

READ my LOCATION, THE MOON. Anyone can provide any details they want, it proved NOTHING. The matter of intelligence, revolves the issue of how logical your arguements and how well you comprehend foreign matter. Not how well you can use spell and grammar check. Aa i have said you dont dseserve that extra 2-3 secs it takes for me to proof read and post, as you are so stupid your arguemensy take 1 sec to rebut..eg you claim u cant be a stealth agenn cuz you provide the info that u in usa on your sbf acct ....and given that this is a singaproean forum where the gusy routinely use singlish i think due to my laziness my use of inappropriate grammatical symbols is the least of my "crimes"....much les sthan someonw who steals pics them implies it is his own, and your general stupidity ...oooo i cant be doing anything wrong because i provide on sbf that i live in usa......im living on the MOON...so sorry earthing language is my second language so i didnt know i had to use formal english grammar when writing on a singlish SEX forum

For once i agree with you. you really do live on the moon.

(since you are a bit slow, that's an English metaphor for 'crazy person'). I guess you are so 'smart' you didnt realize you burned yourself. Actually every time you open your dull mouth you make a fool of yourself, nothing new here.

[lost99]

READ my LOCATION, THE MOON. Anyone can provide any details they want, it proved NOTHING. The matter of intelligence, revolves the issue of how logical your arguements and how well you comprehend foreign matter. Not how well you can use spell and grammar check. Aa i have said you dont dseserve that extra 2-3 secs it takes for me to proof read and post, as you are so stupid your arguemensy take 1 sec to rebut..eg you claim u cant be a stealth agenn cuz you provide the info that u in usa on your sbf acct ....and given that this is a singaproean forum where the gusy routinely use singlish i think due to my laziness my use of inappropriate grammatical symbols is the least of my "crimes"....much les sthan someonw who steals pics them implies it is his own, and your general stupidity ...oooo i cant be doing anything wrong because i provide on sbf that i live in usa......im living on the MOON...so sorry earthing language is my second language so i didnt know i had to use formal english grammar when writing on a singlish SEX forum

Spelling and grammar ARE an indication of intelligence, as it shows you understand the nuances of an actual recognized language. Only a stupid person would think otherwise. Would someone that speaks chicken scratch like you ever be elected to PM? of course not because that person would sound and look stupid, and lose the respect of the people.

Making accusations without evidence, also indicates false logic. Its funny how you show many indications of a low intellect person. Not a cooincidence.

[lost99]

Look how lame you are taking things out of context...this is a fucken SEX forum...who would be so anally rententive as to bother with what u suggesting...secondly fucken PM have speech writers who spend DAYS writing speeched, u not even worth more than 1 sec to rebuff your stupid points....you prob some lame ass english teacher or some english major who cant get a real job and thats why you harp on abt how intelligence is reflected in grammar and spelling ON a SEX forum of all places hahahah...i just noticed you dont even know whats a idiom or a metaphor...you should reeducate yourself abt that before u give others lessons...then after that you should go out and find your own fucks ...rather then go online begging for contacts....and this is the same guy posting that people should contact him so he can orgainise their sex tour...another joker

I just lecture you, because you are an annoyance and waste of space on this site. Trying to explain to you that you are 'stupid' is like trying to explain to a pot that it is black.

It's funny how someone who doesn't even know how to use a period, or to construct a proper sentence or paragraph nonetheless, wants to lecture me on English. Oh...the Irony!!

I was once told never to get into an argument with a stupid person, because they will drag you down to their level and win by experience. I guess that its clearly the case here.

[lost99]

this is another example of how lame and stupid you are..there IS NO such metaphor, you are just making shit up to prove your weak stupid point...hence why i called you stupid...the only metaphor is that crazy people come out on a full moon, and the other idiom that has any reference is "man on the moon" and that refers to A person who is not an outcast but different from everyone else. A unique person, different in a good way (look at urban dictionary of you think im lieing). Prove me wrong and show me some proof of what you are saying....the only one who is slow and stupid is YOU..english metaphor my ass

Here you go DUMBASS:

"Lunatic is an informal term referring to a person who is considered mentally ill, dangerous, foolish or unpredictable, conditions once attributed to lunacy. The term may be considered insulting in serious contexts in modern times, but is now more likely to be used in friendly jest. The word derives from lunaticus meaning "of the moon" or "moonstruck". The term was once commonly used in law.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunatic

For an example of a lunatic, look in the mirror. Now that i have clearly met your condition and proved you WRONG, will you actually show some humility, or continue whining like a little Baby, making up false accusations and hashing out the same tired story looking for your mom's attention?

[lost99]

so lets get the FACT down, you are calling me stupid because im lazy to waste my time proof reading my rebuttals to you or slwo down my typing to correct my typo ON A SINGLISH language SEX forum..and yet you refuse to recognise your own stupidity when AFTER lecturing me on spelling and grammer you show you dnt knwo the difference btw a idiom and a metaphor...and how your arguements for stealing other poeple pictures implying,they are your own then saying u posting for fun...or claiming that your info provided on sbf of your location as being USA means you 1000 miles away and is proof of that and thus cannot be a stealth agent...fark talk abt illogical arguements...THEN you try and bullshit your way out telling people that living on the moon is a metaphor for being crazy...it might be a idiom for being crazy but def not a metaphor...and to my knowledge there is no such idiom...so like i said prove me wrong o great intellect when it comes to the english language

I don't have to call you stupid. You clearly show a pattern of such based on your responses and writing 'skill'. It doesn't matter what kind of a forum it is, stupidity festers and shows itself out in any situation. The fact that you show stupidity on the street, in the Hawker center, or mall, still means you are stupid, STUPID! I mean, you implied that you are a lunatic without even knowing that.

Second, you say that my "subjective' beauty scale is wrong. Clearly, you don't understand what 'subjective' is - it can't be wrong to me because its based on my own subjectivity, not yours! Another sign of stupidity.

Third, you say i am 'stealing' pictures. Well, there is a thing in copyrights called 'fair use'. You are allowed to use posted images if not for profit or gain - so how is this stealing? The claim that i 'supposedly' fucked these girls was entirely conjured by you and your lunatic mind. I just posted the pics for fun to respond to another poster, and your crazy mind took off. By the same logic, I guess the fact you post a Man's face on your Avatar means you are homosexual, no?

Fourth, you always make up shit to support your weak thinking. I never said i took those pictures, and only an idiot would think so, as there was a large website logo on one of the photos showing where i got it from. Clearly, you suffer from tunnel vision, think one little thing and your mind goes off on a tangent. A sign of lack of focus and intelligence.

Fifth, you call me out as an alleged 'Agent' when you have NO proof. From my posts, you can tell i don't live in Jakarta, and if I'm an Agent why do i ask questions about the city i supposedly live in?,] and only post FRs every few months instead of weekly? Your problem is that you can't see the FULL picture (pun intended) and you focus on one questionable inconsistency as the entire basis for your argument. That's why you look stupid. One grey hair on a man's head does not necessarily mean he's old - you need a full head of gray hair you Ah Beng!!!!!

All your allegations have ZERO proof, and yet you use the same argument against me when i claim i am living in the US. Prove to me i'm an 'Agent' and i'll prove to you I live in the US. I think this is your backup argument when your brain gets stuffed and you can't think of anything smart, which is always.

[lost99]

still doesnt mean what u said it does that living on the moon means being crazy or a lunartic....as i said the common expression is that crazy people come out in the full moon, and so thats the common connection..NOTHING abt LIVING on the moon means you crazy...which is your original point...in fact your evidence is a reference to someone being earth BOUND then being affected by the moon and its radiance...it would be impossible to be affected as such if the person is living on the moon.... wanna see whining here a perfect example

You are really too stupid to make the connection....wow. I'm speechless!!!! This just makes you look so dumb.

You said you "live on the moon". Lunatic means "of the moon", ergo, you admit to being a lunatic.

No wonder you failed as an Agent.

[lost99]

yes sure there is a connection just like there is a connection between your ass to your head..and so if people were to use your line of thinking your brain prob lies in your ass....but NO a mere insubstantial connection to the MOON, is not the same as "living on the MOON" = crazy person, which is your (WRONG) POINT

How about the connection between your Vagina and your tits?

I mean, when you say you live on the Moon, that's a pretty strong connection you are fron the moon and a "Lunatic" , you idiot.

its funny now how you have to resort to Vulgar name calling, as you don't have anything 'intelligent' to say.

[hoian]

It is an undeniable fact that he is dumb. Many a time, I had, in fact, felt pity for him and wanted to cut him some slack. It must be really difficult for a retard to make a living bringing suckers around the back alleys in Saigon. And have to keep up the pretense that he is "rich" when reporting to his mummy.

But what really irks me are those fake FRs. And he got his clone/friend LukeScumwalker to do the same shit. And suddenly a few minions like Bote & lausung also pop up. They are all probably customers wanting to justify to themselves that the $100 they paid Tom/MC was worth every penny.

You are really too stupid to make the connection....wow. I'm speechless!!!! This just makes you look so dumb.

You said you "live on the moon". Lunatic means "of the moon", ergo, you admit to being a lunatic.

No wonder you failed as an Agent.

[lost99]

What a fucktard...obviosuly subjectivity can be WRONG, all those people who have a subjective view say pro nazi, or pro aparthied, when viewed in a world context can be said to be wrong...there is no absolute correctness just just because something is subjective..and my original point wasnt that your personal scale was WRONG, it was just illogical and unscientific....you really are a gutless fuckwitt...go thro many post calling me stupid now u backing out saying you didnt call me stupid but it something else...weaseling out the fact for all your claims of intelligence dont even know the difference between a metaphor and a idiom...haha copy right and fair use...wtf...u didnt even use it in the right legal context...what a fucken loser
...what the fuck is your point abt not living in Jakarta and how it unrelated about being a stealth agent...i dont care where u live, but my point is that showing me your location next to your name on sbf is proof of NOTHING. I am calling you a possible stealth agent because of this, you post a message saying you will be going to indo...you have some but not much experience, you just another fun loving newbiw...u ask people to pm you (what for what are the conditions)...if course you dont want to tell people u are experience etc etc...because then that will get peoples suspicions up....u dont mention abt fees etc (hence the stealth part) you just say u doing it as a good guy then you take them to places you have organised with the management in advance...where management will pad the newbies billing inflating it above what it is normally, then u take a big fat commission....now where in all this is it necessary for u to live in jakarta, and what does living in usa got to do with that...and finally pointing to me and calling me a dumbass that next to your name is the location usa PROVED WHAT...thats why i call u stupid...yes im calling you stupid right to ur face, no backdowns or saying that i dont have to call u stupid bc its self evident...im calling you stupid because you so stupid you cant even even see your own self evident stupid behaviour and postings

Tom. Let's end this argument in person - face to face like a man.

I am going to Jakarta via SINGAPORE, and i challenge you to meet me for a cup of coffee and say those things to my face. Let's see the size of the pussy between your legs?

Just so you know, I have connections to a local Muay Thai gym in Singapore, as i used to train there frequently when i lived there. I could get us some free ring time so we can practice 'sparring' with each other with Gloves instead of pointless words. What do you think?

[Bote]

Your moronic bullshit, i never met anyone in this forum.
Reading through this thread, I actually felt pity for you and want to cut you some slack. It is difficult for fuck tard like you to gain reputation.
Most of your post are nonsensical stuff

But what really irks me are those fake FRs. And he got his clone/friend LukeScumwalker to do the same shit. And suddenly a few minions like Bote & lausung also pop up. They are all probably customers wanting to justify to themselves that the $100 they paid Tom/MC was worth every penny.

[lost99]

hahah right....i can see where this goes....u say u there and then u never turn up...just liek the rest of you cowards...sure lets play time and place...i dont go to singapore tell me when and where in vietnam

I promise you, if I don't show up, you have the right to call everyone out here publicly about me being a coward. Whatever you may think of me, i assure you I am definitely not a coward, and i'm
not someone who runs away from a fight. I've been in many fist fights and verbal fights in my life, and while not unbeaten, i'm not afraid to lose either.

The same goes if you don't show up either...which i highly suspect to be the case. I can smell a cowardly vagina like yours from a mile away.

You want me to go to Vietnam? Stupid and cowardly. How about Singapore or Jakarta, why would i bother going to Vietnam for you?

[Bote]

Hoian is a moronic troll who pretend to be expert of Vietnam
Giving nonsensical and useless advice is his expertise
Everybody Alert!
Yes, a few types of travellers into VN raises questions. One is frequent entries within a short period of time - it's their job to ask why u need to do so. 2nd is if u entered via China which breaks a certain pattern in their mind..they probably wondering why u did not enter the country directly frm another Asean city (eg SG, KL etc).


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Troll alert!

[lost99]

REALLY...i have called you stupid and shown how stupid you are..for all your supposed english lessons to me you dont know what is a metaphor and what is a idiom...like me calling you a coward ONLINE is going to affect you...at best you set up a clone account or use one that you have already...what a fucken idiot....u talk like you have honour and principles..."you can call me out as a coward if i dont turn up" hahaha what a joker....see thats the excuse i prempted you, you want to MEET me for a fight, so you need to find me....i KNOW what kinda guy you are, why would i be stupid enough to go find you and waste my time and efffort...i have NOTHING connected to SINGAPORE...i go to indo whenever i want to enjoy and relax...so This is how stupid you are...you want to fight me, you the challenger and you want to fight me the title holder...and you think i should be finding your dumbass...where in teh fight world does that happen....i know u would use this as a excuse...typical chicken shit..see how i prempted you...you challange me to a fight, now u say why would u bother come finding me...wtf

The only "Title" you hold is that of a Coward and a DUMBASS, I agree.

You don't goto SG? You say you are going to Jakarta? when let's meetup in Jakarta, no need to find each other then.

I challenge you, you make excuses and decline, ergo, you are a coward. I've met many pussies like you before, no matter what you say, clearly you are just a keyboard warrior, a typical scared little "Rule Follower" in person. It takes guts to say the things you do to a person's face instead of through a computer, so its not surprising you dont' have any.

[Bote]

RED ALERT

Hoian is moronic troll pretending to help newbie by giving nonsensical advice.

Ask newbie to bring vagisil and tell wl wash their cheebye clean is one of his nonsensical advice

hoian will ridicule newbie for paying too much money to girls in tourist area

hoian will ridicule newbie spend too much money to fuck in tourist area and not going to cheap local fl

hoian will ridicule newbie for being cheapo not tipping the taxi driver

hoian will advertise he knew those pretty wechat girls who target & chop tourist

hoian like posting girls photo he took from facebook and claim they are his friends

hoian will always pretend to date model and sleep with them in his $20 hotel

hoian will pm bros secretly to ask for girls contact

hoian will pm bros secretly to ask for meetup

hoian will pretend to have many pretty wechat girls contact in tourist area to share. If you reject her girls, he will angry jump up & down

[hoian]

I won't be surprised u dunno this because u are a refugee and do not have an Asean country passport.

And you know this from what..whats your source of information...methinks this is just another bit of bullshit from our resident basement masturbator

[lost99]

shit...u wana meet and fight me come to me..why i have to come to u...i said i GO to jkarta..i didt say im going soon....clearly you full of shit...the rules of conflict and dispute is the challanger has to meet the challengee...you want to sue someone you sue them in the jurisdiction they live in, the challenger to the title holder goes to the location the title holder sets...you want to attack a country in war you go to their land...what kinda fantasy you live in, you wanan fight me you come here and find me...what kinda LUNACY is you wanan fight me but im supposed to waste my time and energy looking for you , ESPECIALLY when i know what kinda chicken shit your are...if i was to agree with YOU then i really would be crazy...your challang me SURE come to vn hcmc in fact...where have i DECLINED...i willing accept...come here!!! come here and say it to my face if you have as much guts as you claim...

Words of an insecure scared little coward...clearly. You are a big man behind that computer screen and keyboard, in your parent's home - Yet its somehow my fault you are too scared to meet up? Rules of conflict for a simple face-to-face meeting? Do you really believe this bullshit you are saying? YOU EXPECT ME TO FLY TO HCMC to teach you a lesson on manners? Who's stupid now?

COWARDS MAKE RULES AND EXCUSES (YOU), REAL MEN MAKE THINGS HAPPEN AND DON'T MAKE WHINY LITTLE EXCUSES (NOT YOU)

If you SAY you are going to Jakarta, then lets meet up and talk FACE TO FACE. WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO JAKARTA YOU SCARED LITTLE PUSSY?

You have a million excuses for everything. What a chicken you are ..lol.

[lost99]

ok if im wrong then i apoligise....just the day you post initially is the day i got zapped 6 points which is 1/2 of your power, which is how the zapping mechanism works....and liek i said you zap or up me doesnt help me in the least...so you offering me points is nothing....i answer because i have a interest in people not over paying as that will indirectly affect me in a number of ways...i have NOT interest in helping you get laid, finding girls etc etc...so in those matters i WONT be commenting or helping...i do things of my own choosing so telling me you upp or zap me is of no consequence....i even answer your question after i think u zap me...i dont see how upping me is doing me a favour

Not surprised you are wrong - it is an indication of a self-admitted "Luantic". How are you in a position to offer anyone here any tangible advice in view of your self-admitted disorder?

Also, does the fact you appear as an immature, insecure, and argumentative teenager bode well for your stealth agent business?

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

Someone copied LUKESKYWALKER's posts from ISG and post them in this forum. He never posted in SBF himself.

Whoever doing it obviously has his own ugly agenda, not LSW's. The bros should find out who's playing this game.

This thread is full of childish insults with not much meaningful info. *SIGH*

It is an undeniable fact that he is dumb. Many a time, I had, in fact, felt pity for him and wanted to cut him some slack. It must be really difficult for a retard to make a living bringing suckers around the back alleys in Saigon. And have to keep up the pretense that he is "rich" when reporting to his mummy.

But what really irks me are those fake FRs. And he got his clone/friend LukeScumwalker to do the same shit. And suddenly a few minions like Bote & lausung also pop up. They are all probably customers wanting to justify to themselves that the $100 they paid Tom/MC was worth every penny.

[hoian]

It's pretty obvious that FRs from both Tom/MC and LukeScumwalker are fake.

Only newbies will be fooled into sending PM to Scumwalker who will then direct them to Tom, who is, in the words of his minion lausung... "one of the most highly respected pimps in VN." Can u believe it?


Someone copied LUKESKYWALKER's posts from ISG and post them in this forum. He never posted in SBF himself.

Whoever doing it obviously has his own ugly agenda, not LSW's. The bros should find out who's playing this game.

This thread is full of childish insults with not much meaningful info. *SIGH*

[Luke0skywalker]

Look at HCM thread, nobody want to share info.
Tons of guys asking question, TCSS, argument and some joker (hoian) writing nonsense.
You are a clone too. Claim to try 20 over girls in HCM but zero FR from u. Have you really want to do good for HCM thread?

I copied lukeskywalker post here certainly have good instead of ugly motive. Following my post, guys can just walk in to D10 and explore. I am sure if they try hard enough, they can find something useful. Even if they have problem contacting website girls at D10, there are still HTGD around there. But is unfortunate how many guys really come back and write something useful
Someone copied LUKESKYWALKER's posts from ISG and post them in this forum.

Whoever doing it obviously has his own ugly agenda, not LSW's.

[Luke0skywalker]

Pretty obvious u are the real fucktard.
It's pretty obvious that FRs from both Tom/MC and LukeScumwalker are fake.

Only newbies will be fooled into sending PM to Scumwalker who will then direct them to Tom, who is, in the words of his minion lausung... "one of the most highly respected pimps in VN." Can u believe it?

[hoian]

Only u yourself know your motive. Maybe you are serving your master pimp. Whatever the case, when do a cut-n-paste, it's honorable to quote the source... and not make it sound like it's your own.

In any case, the FRs u cut n paste is written from an angmor's point of view. That's what gave u away.


I copied lukeskywalker post here certainly have good instead of ugly motive. Following my post, guys can just walk in to D10 and explore. ...

[Luke0skywalker]

Does not matter people know I am real luke or fake. So what if gave me away.
The purpose is the same, create info for people to go out there and explore.
Unlike u, what have u try to do good for hcm thread.

Only u yourself know your motive. Maybe you are serving your master pimp. Whatever the case, when do a cut-n-paste, it's honorable to quote the source... and not make it sound like it's your own.

In any case, the FRs u cut n paste is written from an angmor's point of view. That's what gave u away.

[hoian]

Whether nonsense or not is up to the individual reader to decide. The reader dun like can skip and not read.

But posting a fake FR is misleading and raises the question of "motive."

Does not matter people know I am real luke or fake. So what if gave me away.
The purpose is the same, create info for people to go out there and explore.
Unlike u, what have u really share.

[Luke0skywalker]

These days almost zero useful info in this thread.
If there are any, everyone will hide it. The so called senior never really want to share info unless u meet them up and agree to their "condition".

So many guys come here and hope to find useful info but there is none.
They should be thankful that at least i inject info for them to find.

If guys were to follow your past post on wechat and FL, they would bang walls.
You ask guys to write vietnamese language when picking wechat girls. Thats foolish.
You mislead newbie.

Whether nonsense or not is up to the individual reader to decide. The reader dun like can skip and not read.

But posting a fake FR is misleading and raises the question of "motive."

[hoian]

Problem with most guys are they expect to be spoon fed. Their postings go like this: "I am in town for 2 days. Where do I get a good fuck?"

Firstly no one owes them an answer. Secondly lazy guys like that deserve pimps like Tom/MC who will charge US$50 onwards to give the answers they want.

In the past, I have attempted to share some pretty gals I met but it ended up badly so can't blame me for holding back.

On a more serious note, learning some basic VN is the key to unlocking the "secrets". It's not foolish as u put it. When u are in Paris, try asking for directions in English and they will walk away. Same principle.

These days almost zero useful info in this thread.
If there are any, everyone will hide it. The so called senior never really want to share info unless u meet them up and agree to their "condition".

So many guys come here and hope to find useful info but there is none.
They should be thankful that at least i inject info for them to find.

If guys were to follow your past post on wechat and FL, they would bang walls. You ask guys to write vietnamese language when picking wechat girls. Thats foolish. You are misleading newbie.

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Nothing has been exposed about me. Still waiting for your PROOF that I am a stealth agent... how long do I have to wait?
HAHAHAH after what has been exposed about you and NOW for you to talk abt honour and ulterior motives...hahah ANOTHER JOKE by our resident beggar of whore contacts....

[Luke0skywalker]

Nobody own them a answer so u can always choose not to reply them.
Info inject into the thread, useful or not depend on themselve.
Out of every 20 lazy guys, there be 1 genuine come back to write.
It is evident that couple of guys start to search for info in D10, they did come back and share their experience if u look at the past few mth posting.

Vietnamese language is useful if they want to cheong the local scene.
I dont mean learning language are not useful. But these wechat girls are cater to people in the tourist area.
None of these wechat girls will use vietnamese language to pick up customer in D1.

Problem with most guys are they expect to be spoon fed. Their postings go like this: "I am in town for 2 days. Where do I get a good fuck?"

Firstly no one owes them an answer. Secondly lazy guys like that deserve pimps like Tom/MC who will charge $50 onwards to give the answers they want.

In the past, I have attempted to share some pretty gals I met but it ended up badly so can't blame me for holding back.

On a more serious note, learning some basic VN is the key to unlocking the "secrets". It's not foolish as u put it. When u are in Paris, try asking for directions in English and they will walk away. Same principle.

[hoian]

U have your logic. But I noticed some of the info is outdated and readers are led to a dead-end. Although along the way they may find something else and come back to write about it. Overall no comment.
Nobody own them a answer so u can always choose not to reply them. Info inject into the thread, useful or not depend on themselve. Out of every 20 lazy guys, there be 1 genuine come back to write. It is evident that couple of guys start to search for info in D10, they did come back and share their experience if u look at the past few mth posting.

If u are in D1, u wechat a gal, she expects u to be a tourist and she expects to be paid US$80-100. U are also expected to text in English. U will be fishing in a pond.

But if u are outside D1, switch on your wechat, learn a bit of VN and u will be fishing in an ocean. That's my point. But having said that I am not saying Wechat is the only means to find a gal.
Vietnamese language is useful if they want to cheong the local scene. I dont mean learning language are not useful. But these wechat girls are cater to people in the tourist area.
For a tourist who come here once in a while, it is not practical for them.

[Luke0skywalker]

Those hardworking readers would have read my post and go dig more info.

The standard pricing for wechat girls in D1 is around US$50-60 up to their bargain.

Outside D1, WL dont hook guys using wechat. Even if there are, i would think is rare.
Unless you are talking about fishing for non-working girl which is not part of our discussion here.

Do the thread a favor, stop all those accusation and fight.
Put people in your ignored list if you dont like their comment.
U have your logic. But I noticed some of the info is outdated and readers are led to a dead-end. Although along the way they may find something else and come back to write about it. Overall no comment.


If u are in D1, u wechat a gal, she expects u to be a tourist and she expects to be paid US$80-100. U are also expected to text in English. U will be fishing in a pond.

But if u are outside D1, switch on your wechat, learn a bit if VN and u will be fishing in an ocean. That's my point.

[hoian]

I am not the one who starts it. There's this particular pimp who has an axe to grind with me. And then his trolls/clone join in. The jury's still out on whether u yourself is a clone or not.

Do the thread a favor, stop all those accusation and fight. Put people in your ignored list if you dont like their comment.

[lost99]

HAHAHAH after what has been exposed about you and NOW for you to talk abt honour and ulterior motives...hahah ANOTHER JOKE by our resident beggar of whore contacts....

Hey coward, when you going to Jakarta you scared little pussy? i want to share a Kopi with you, and then more.

[lost99]

no thats not the one i took pting, the one i go much closer only 20-30min...ride up to binh duong is like close to one hour...too far for regular visit and the one in bd is like 120k NO CIM...there are many up there so telling me that its V**g isnt much identifcation , in BD can even find cafe that offer fj, 250-300k as well....but i notice you the type ask many questions, even ask via pm, but then later when someone ask you something your answer is that your local bro take you and you dont know....plus you claim can google many things...so i leave you to find via google

Stop leading people to get Chopped - what kind of stealth agent advice is this?

[lost99]

First find out WHERE, the action is OUTSIDE of D1, then find out if YOU WANT to engage in that action, no point in staying outside of d1, then later cant find action or the action is something you dont want to do, and then find that because you cant speak vietnamese and noone speak english you struggle with everything....likewise if you like staying in d1 and want to go to places outside of d1, if you dont mind spending 10-20usd in taxi fare each day, then just stay in D1. But just like the finding girl friendly hotels, best first figure out WHERE you plan to get your girl. Put the horse before the cart.

You cant speak English either, just because you were conned and chopped dont advise others to do the same also. Do you hide the real advice for your paying clients of you stealth Agency?

[lost99]

THE ONLY COWARDS IS YOU...make a challange to me, i ACCEPT, but then u want me to waste my time to find you...you make empty challange knowing you wont be able to meet your obligations....if you serious you would just do it rather than come online and challange...oo i meet you at muay thai gym...talking shit anyone can tell u full of shit see how i preempt your bullshit....i can smell it beofre u can even finish the sentence

If i am Coward why are YOU making excuses, and refuse to tell me when YOU come to Jakarta? thus you did not accept - since you say you goto Jakarta anyways but afraid to say when and where.
you are the Kettle calling Pot Black. scared little woman you are, insult me at keyboard but not to face

[lost99]

WTF...do yopu even understand what a STEALTH agent is?...hint the word steath...methinks the one with english problems is you...again whats your excuse for not knowing the difference of a idiom and a metaphor...u keep dodging that yet throw around accusations of not knowing english....the whole premise doenst even make sense, im getting chopped and conned yet im the stealth agent?

i didnt say you were a good stealth agent. you just get chopped and conned so people dont suspect you are agent. Then you steer people to places where you get comission.

You cant even write a proper sentence or use a period properly, so you have no basis to accuse others of bad English.

[Cool_Taurian]

Ouchh......you hit the bone.


i didnt say you were a good stealth agent. you just get chopped and conned so people dont suspect you are agent. Then you steer people to places where you get comission.

You cant even write a proper sentence or use a period properly, so you have no basis to accuse others of bad English.

[lost99]

i dont have plans to go to jakarta, why i should make plans to go there to suit you...send memoney for the airticket and hotel and sure ill go meet you... when i KNOW for a fact you will later go and make stupid excuses..."oo i was there at 4pm but then i had to go meet my mommy" type bullshit...IM HERE NOW, why dont you come here....you want to fight me but im supposed to make it easy and convenient for you...i suppose during the nazi invasion of russia, germany should have told russia to wait till spring for it to be convenient for them...what a fucken joker...your whole premise is a fucken joke thats why i know you are just a waste of time...who if they are serious about fighting would challange online, id just fucken find out where u are come there and beat the shit out of you, without warning you...fucken online challange meet me abc at 5pm....what a joke...anyone with some common sense would see you for the joke you are.....likewise what kinda moron would go online asking for contacts of big breasted women...anyone who has such contacts would either keep and enjoy them for himself, or SELL them..who the fuck would give them to u....and who the fuck would go online asking for it...indicative of your stupidity thats all...worse you did it twice...once in the AC thread with no result...but you too stupid to learn from that and then you do it AGAIN...and SHOW me my excuse...i said im here, come meet me, u wanan fight me find me, but im not gonna waste my time and money go find you...yeah id truely be stupid and i would be in the same leauge as you if i agreed to it...me making excuse is yeah ill meet u in jkta but this that etc...im suaying u know the fuckern shit u are and i wont waste my time...u wanan fight me come to hcmc and ill insult you to your face as much as you want...i await the money for the plain ticket when you read ill give u details how to send me the money...if you dont then THAT means your are making excuses and are the coward

The Only one making excuses is you. i offer to meet you in SG, you decline. You say you goto Jakarta, so i say lets meet there. then you give more excuses that im not gonna show up, and tell me to goto HCM to find you. whats next? you tell me to goto North Pole? Russia? Mexico

So obvious u are chicken shit hiding behind keyboard. Tired of hearing you excuses. Now people here see your true colors and dont give you their business.

[lost99]

wow i must be really bad but every day i get people ask me for info, even cool taurian me asking for info which i refused btw...if im so bad then the guys who pm must be REALLY stupid....who the bigger fool the fool or the one following the fool...
I will ask you who is the one with greater guilt of not knowing english? The person who uses words inappropriately, and thus proving they dont know the meaning of those words, or the person who refuses to use proper punctuation. Its not even a issue of grammar, but a issue of punctuation, because they cant be bother wasteing any more time than the few seconds to put morons to bed. They also cant be bothers proof reading for typographical errors, because it is after ALL a SINGLISH sex forum, people here dont use english, so its even a bigger waste of time to bother with punctuation spelling when the is plenty of errors...just look at cool taurians post....ouch ...you hit the bone...wtf

People dont want to follow an incoherent rambling uneducated stealth agent to end up getting chopped. Your insults show your true colors, and do your business a disservice, you you are too stupid to realize. Go ahead, lets keep at this for as long as you want, im not backing down until you have the guts to meet me personally.

I'll wait for more of your cowardly excuses now.

[hoian]

Tom/MC vs lost99
The chances of you two meeting up for a fist fight is practically zero. So why waste bandwidth?

[hoianfather]

My retard son...

Pot is calling kettle black. You are wasting bandwidth making this post.
Be a good boy, go back to your room and pcc :p

Tom/MC vs lost99
The chances of you two meeting up for a fist fight is practically zero. So why waste bandwidth?

[lost99]

Is Just a big chicken shit. Nothing he says can be trusted as he talks crap out of his ass and does not stand by his words.

You say you accept my challenge to meet, and that you are going to Jakarta (where I am going soon) yet You refuse to tell me when and where.

Then you say I must come to HCM (where I have never been and have no interest) to find you, And say I am afraid to meet you. Of course you put a condition that I would not be willing to do, and then somehow spin it against me when you are the scared coward.

If you are not scared, why can we not meet at a location common to both of us (Jakarta) and then I WILL COME TO YOU. No more excuse of you wasting your time and alleging I will not show up. You are the one making excuses, and I'm trying to make this happen to expose to everyone what a lying FRAUD you are.

Total Bullshitter.

[lost99]

Tom/MC vs lost99
The chances of you two meeting up for a fist fight is practically zero. So why waste bandwidth?

The guy is so retarded, it's entertaining for me. It further illustrates his delluisional mind to others, so people will know he's crazy and not listen to him and hurt his business

We are able to easily meet at a central location sometime if planned (SG or Indo), yet he expects me to fly to HCM or pay his ticket to SG, and says I am the coward for not finding him. He really does live on the moon.

Anyone who follow the advice of this whackjob deserved to be chopped by him.

[Cool_Taurian]

Actually i dont even bother to reply but i can see you brough up my nick.

Yes i did PM you for infos on HCM as i see you claim you know everything.
The you offered me 100 dollars per day for pimping job taking me to everywhere for BJ/CIM......its not really what i want, i prefer QUALITY over QUANTITY. Then i ask for some bros advice, i realise your style and places are not suitable for me. I prefer GFE + Sex which means i prefer to take back / dinner....etc.
So i decide to roam HCM myself, and hey......i'm enjoying it. I met nice executive lady and along the way make some local friends......till this date .... I''m glad i didnt take up your offer, and till this day, i'm glad i dont have to meet another disaster guy like you, who BITCH around every single little nuts and screws. PLS GET A LIFE. ITS SO BEAUTIFUL OUT THERE.

Peace.



wow i must be really bad but every day i get people ask me for info, even cool taurian me asking for info which i refused btw...if im so bad then the guys who pm must be REALLY stupid....who the bigger fool the fool or the one following the fool...
I will ask you who is the one with greater guilt of not knowing english? The person who uses words inappropriately, and thus proving they dont know the meaning of those words, or the person who refuses to use proper punctuation. Its not even a issue of grammar, but a issue of punctuation, because they cant be bother wasteing any more time than the few seconds to put morons to bed. They also cant be bothers proof reading for typographical errors, because it is after ALL a SINGLISH sex forum, people here dont use english, so its even a bigger waste of time to bother with punctuation spelling when the is plenty of errors...just look at cool taurians post....ouch ...you hit the bone...wtf

[lost99]

yes thats how SOME of the cafe om operate in the country side, the youtube seems of the rabba type....but if you think u can google and youtube to find addresses then you crazy, these places move around very often, maybe every 6mths, further there are PURE rabba places ie all u can do is rabba, then there are places u can get a bbbj whilst lieing on your hammock, others you leave your hammock and go into small room for bbbj, others you go room for fs, and others again you go to hotel for fj...and yes takes min 1hr even of you know the address, and if you are a tourist where time is of the essence, might not be the ideal place..and as you said its not my lobang so you dont scared ruin it why not share the location for all those who might be interested...why is it YOU always ask fro information BUT NEVER share anything...someone asked abt ktv and you said you dont know adress, then another post you said something abt NDC, which i am pretty sure i know where u refer to...so here ill share something to you, if you want to find lots of cafe om check out duong GFU

Just to confirm, you charge $100 a day to act as a pimp and take people around to fuckshops that are posted here and people can find for free on their own. Then you add little charges for little things which add up? Correct?

[FireShark]

Just to confirm, you charge $100 a day to act as a pimp and take people around to fuckshops that are posted here and people can find for free on their own. Then you add little charges for little things which add up? Correct?

Hahaha, even you also know how he operated but still there are some people still want to engage his service. :confused:

[lost99]

Hahaha, even you also know how he operated but still there are some people still want to engage his service. :confused:

Yeah, why on earth would anybody pay this disfunctional, dellusional, and mentally unstable whackjob called TomMAffolter. From his ramblings and massive grammatical errors, you can tell he is uneducated. From his responses he is clearly a Coward afraid to acknowledge his own mistakes. He is clearly very bossy, rude, arrogant, and someone who "nickel and dime" customer to every last cent. He is what you flat out call a "LOSER" in life, trying to scam unsuspecting newbies here.

BTW, Tom M Affolter is a real life lawyer in the USA, and TomMAffolter was MutantChicken in a previous incarnation but banned and reborn as TomMAffolter a.k.a "stupid stealth agent". So his Nick is a slander of the real life Tom M Affolter, and he is the type of person who would use someone's good name and drag it into the mud here.

[lost99]

Bro, curious in this topic here that 100 is it in sing dollar or USD?

TomMAllfotor a.k.a "MutantChicken" charge $100USD a day... to take you to fuck shops, and probably annoy you to death with his chicken scratch English run-on sentences.

[lost99]

Pardon me for being a busybody but I think MC must be happy as you advertised for him.

If he were to put this message, chances for him to get ban is extremely high. Hence you actually advertised for him free without him need to pay the adver fees. I believe he laughing now. :p

There are always idiots out there who deserve to be chopped. If anybody willing to contact him after clearly seeing how dellusional he is, and how it would be insane to pay a childish uneducated loser for information that is WELL known and FREE, they deserve to be chopped by MC. He may get one or two suckers, but through this TomMAllfotor loses more business than he gains.

[hoian]

Yes and no. In this world, there will always be suckers born every minute...like lausung and bote etc.

No matter what warnings u give, they will blindly go ahead and engage his services. So think of it as they deserve each other. LOL!

Pardon me for being a busybody but I think MC must be happy as you advertised for him....

[hoian]

For a long time, I thought I was the only one who spotted his fake FRs. I am glad there are several of you who realizes it, too.

It's really bad to appear to be helpful, mislead ppl, point newbies to non-existent districts etc and in the end say...oh you didn't find the place? Why not pay me US50 or 100 and I take u there?

One recent sucker was lausung who had to come up with all sorts of lies, create fake FRs to boost his ego and in the end, covertly engaged the pimp services.

Hahaha, even you also know how he operated but still there are some people still want to engage his service. :confused:

Yeah, why on earth would anybody pay this disfunctional, dellusional, and mentally unstable whackjob called TomMAffolter.

[sc2c]

Yes and no. In this world, there will always be suckers born every minute...like lausung and bote etc.

No matter what warnings u give, they will blindly go ahead and engage his services. So think of it as they deserve each other. LOL!

After all these days of squabbling, these is the most sensible sentence you have said "they deserve each other". So let them be, does it mean this chapter has finally brought to a close now?

[lausung]

You are really thick skin...pm me for girl's contact, ask me to meet u, then claim i am faking FR....lol

U always think u are so good, ppl want to meet u but ur commentary shows what a fool u are. Continue dreaming if that make u feel good.

Give u one good advice. Dont waste time building ur so called "online credibility"
Go get a life...not unless u are planning to conduct business in SBF :p

Model sleeping with u in ur 20 dollar hotel...WTF...whenever i think of it cant help laughing..:p
Thanks for giving this joke to brighten my day
Well done well done...lol

Ciao

For a long time, I thought I was the only one who spotted his fake FRs. I am glad there are several of you who realizes it, too.

It's really bad to appear to be helpful, mislead ppl, point newbies to non-existent districts etc and in the end say...oh you didn't find the place? Why not pay me US50 or 100 and I take u there?

One recent sucker was lausung who had to come up with all sorts of lies, create fake FRs to boost his ego and in the end, covertly engaged the pimp services.

[hoian]

I have already produced solid evidence to confirm u are a serial liar. Hope I dun have to show it again. If I were in your shoes, I would quietly fade away to save myself further embarrassments.

Btw u need not have to try so hard to justify your US$100 hiring a pimp was money well spent. If it's any consolation, u were not the only idiot who got suckered... there are others like u. :p

You are really thick skin...pm me for girl's contact, ask me to meet u, then claim i am faking FR....

[lost99]

Im sure noone really care about this aguement and im just wasteing my time but lets just look at the people are posting rubbish about me.

Fireshark...loser ex convicted criminal, now if he was the kingpin then that may be of some value, but no he was in gaol because he was the scapegoat for some loan sharking operation. He was released and for many years was unemployed and was begging for contacts to find a job in vn. Then recently on another thread boasting how unlike other guys who met vn girls who cheat them and trick them and ask for money, his gf was so good blah blah, then more recently his gf also play up run away from him, all i did was remind him of his earlier post and he get all angry and defensive...a buddy of h88 who carry balls for h88

Lost99...another loser who used to cheong china, but then later cheong in indo, so in jkta even with all then post and reviews abt classic and alexis etc he still consider hiring cooljoe the agent over in jkta...this guy got angry after i question how logical his girl rating system is, and then got further annoyed because i attack him after he steal a pic of another girl someone fucked and photographed, then posted it implying its his own... he then post saying he only did that for fun and that he did it so he can beg for contacts of similar girls....and no im not talking abt the prmo pic of the girls on coccoon beach club in bali, im talking abt the pic with the big breasted girl post coitus...then he calls be stupid based on the fact that im too lazy to use proper punctuation ON A SINGLISH SEX forum, and my occasional typo, BUT he makes grammatical errors, and uses words inappropriately because he doenst know their exact meaning, eg metaphor and idiom, a final testament to his stupidity is that he challange me to fight ( we know its a empty challenge) because HE wants fight but then EXPECT ME to spend my time and money going to a foreign location and FIND him, who in their right minds would do that, instead i counter offer him telling him to find me, or send me money for flight and hotel and ill go find him....this guy then backs away...saying im a chicken and need to find him

Hoian...fucken confirmed loser, say he speaks viet, dates models, dont want and need to associate with english speaking girl, dont want to meet other samsters as he far too high class to pay for sex with whore....there is SOLID proof and evidence, thats he begged for contacts with a english speaking FL, thats he begged to meet a samster who had such contacts...he claims to be in the tour business from his previous post, now he claims to have a branch factory in BD, what tour business has a factory...thats news to me....the only thing we know is that he is addicted to porn, when not posting his lies and phantasy he is commenting abt porn, asking abt porn links, asking for specific porn titles...i ask if you are busy dating models and fucking models why would u watch porn or even bother with porn...he is angry because i continually shoot him down after he posts his stories and so he cannot enjoy his fake life.

You want proof, no greater proof than what you have confirmed from your own postings. See the similarity between these 3 charaters, all are low status men who use sbf to create a facade, so they dont feel suicidal abt their pathetic lives....but all are guys who cant go find fucks themselves and for all their venom and bile against agents and pimps, all have begged for contacts of whores, or at least thought about using agents and pimps.

Now as to the challange, idiot Lost99 challange me to a fight, THEN isntead of finding me to kick my ass, he wants me to go find him in singapore or jkata (when he finally gets there in June), i dont have any connection to singapore, im not singaporean, wtf would i go there, i have been and i might go in the future to indo, but i definately wouldnt normally go follow his agenda, waste my time and engergy to gain what....he will undoubtly will not turn up...but i am really tired of this bullshit so i have booked my flight i will be on the red eye to jkta TONIGHT i will be waiting FOR YOU LOST99 at Mulia Senayan Hotel, at 11pm....lets see what your excuse will be NOW.

One final note, if finding cafe om, hottoc and brothels are so easy, show me where guys have found them and reported about them, I have shown u cool taurian's pm asking me for contacts, i also have daretolovin contacting me, i also have seen s2c pm others (guys i have personally taken on my tour) asking for contacts, i have also h88 asking me for contacts as well, the supposed all knowing senior here, as well as Wendella the 10Yr + resident..if it was so easy like you 3 claim, then you MUST be calling these people who have pm asking for contacts stupid then....and the final proof is WHERE is your FR on these places if they are so easy to find and so accessable...and no dont post up some youtube vid of some clean barbar shop where you get nothing except getting your carrot chop, and dont post some link about a avertisement for some massage shop...hoain didnt even post the correct advertisement, the ad he posted and the phone number shown isnt even for the massage place but for a agent who sells dicounted tickets to the massage shop...dont point me to places like DN or VD where its carrot chopped prices targeting foreigners...most people are interested in going to local places paying local prices...show me those places

You don't sound like a total LOSER with a response like that.

If you were a good agent, you'd have some supporters come out of the woodwork to say so.... anyone??? NOPE

You write pidgeon Singlish, but say you have no connection to Singapore, and stealthly advertising on SG sex forum, and say you should be able to speak Singlish here...ummmmm.. okay....

Yep, and i like how you say you are in Jakarta NOW when you know i am not there now. More excuses from a coward. Of course you gonna say you are there when i am not.

Good luck getting customers now that i will always be here to warn of your SCAMs and FRAUDs you commit. You are more stupid than i could have ever thought. Arguing with your dellisional mind is really fun for me. I can do this all day long.

[lost99]

This is my last response before i get to airport...what a moron YOU want to fight ME, make a challange to me say me you in jakarta, so even tho i know its a empty challange that you will never carry though, but im sick of hearing it, i book a flight NOW when there is conflict, but you tell me i should WAIT for you when you get there? You want to fight me, and yet i have to wait till its convenient for YOU...and yesterday you post you feel so strongly about this that you wont back down till i meet YOU, ill be in jakarta TONIGHT....you feel so strongly about your convictions then meet me as you challenged me to....i guess what i said about you is true

Lets see a picture of your supposed plane ticket..... don't have one? didn't think so. Nobody here believes the crap out of your mouth anymore. You know i am not coming until June and all of a sudden you say you are going tonight? More lies and excuses...stop your BS already getting very tiring. If you really gonna go - go on June 5 when i am there or SHUT UP!

BTW, please look into your MC account on that other sex website... i've been busy talking about you there also. And i will continue there also, and anywhere else i find your FRAUDs and SCAMs

See this: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ this is what you are losing each time you continue to be such a stupid asshole.

[Cool_Taurian]

Technically, you cannot fly now and arrive at Hotel in Senayan at 11pm.....lol......



This is my last response before i get to airport...what a moron YOU want to fight ME, make a challange to me say me you in jakarta, so even tho i know its a empty challange that you will never carry though, but im sick of hearing it, i book a flight NOW when there is conflict, but you tell me i should WAIT for you when you get there? You want to fight me, and yet i have to wait till its convenient for YOU...and yesterday you post you feel so strongly about this that you wont back down till i meet YOU, ill be in jakarta TONIGHT....you feel so strongly about your convictions then meet me as you challenged me to....i guess what i said about you is true

[lost99]

Technically, you cannot fly now and arrive at Hotel in Senayan at 11pm.....lol......

He lives on the moon apparently. I really wonder if he truly believes his own lies? He may be that delusional, and borderline psychotic.

[Cool_Taurian]

Never underestimate Tom, maybe he can charter a Private Jet, arrive in Jakarta then check into luxury Mulia Hotel but looks for cheap holes in Blok M.




He lives on the moon apparently. I really wonder if he truly believes his own lies? He may be that delusional, and borderline psychotic.

[Hurricane88]

Keep all the argument post in this thread which was specially catered for this kind of situation...:)

The moment I request to BAN then have to be fair to ban all culprits from posting at International Section....that really mean too late...haizzz...:)

Ban from posting International Section meaning can post anywhere except International Section...:)

[hoian]

You are right. No one cares about your made-up fantasies.

1) Speaking Viet... toi biet chut it tv. Tai sao? Can't stand the fact that many bros here can understand the language, right? I dun dare claim to be proficient at it, but enough to get by and date local gals who can't speak English.

2) Dating models... yes, I do as a matter of fact. But it's not a bid deal. If u have the means, why not. I don't consider it a big achievement... maybe to you it is... but we live in different worlds.

3) Begging for contacts... outright lie. When two-faced lausung pretended to be friends with me on PM (he contacted me first btw) i casually asked if his friend working in Parkson may have colleagues interested in meeting new friends. I am not sure how that got twisted around to "begging for WL contacts". (of course in the end.. it was all a made up fantasy. Lausung did not know any VN gals and had to create fake stories... finally ending up paying a pimp US$100 for cheap fucks).

4) Tour business - made up fantasy. I never claimed to be in the tour biz.

5) Porn - well this is a sex forum, no? If we are not here for porn then perhaps for salvation? Lol.... what a joker.

Im sure noone really care about this aguement and im just wasteing my time...

Hoian...fucken confirmed loser, say he speaks viet, dates models, dont want and need to associate with english speaking girl, dont want to meet other samsters as he far too high class to pay for sex with whore....there is SOLID proof and evidence, thats he begged for contacts with a english speaking FL, thats he begged to meet a samster who had such contacts...he claims to be in the tour business from his previous post, now he claims to have a branch factory in BD, what tour business has a factory...thats news to me....the only thing we know is that he is addicted to porn, when not posting his lies and phantasy he is commenting abt porn, asking abt porn links, asking for specific porn titles...i ask if you are busy dating models and fucking models why would u watch porn or even bother with porn...he is angry because i continually shoot him down after he posts his stories and so he cannot enjoy his fake life...

[happyboy01]

Do those Viet girls which you fuck, take naked pic and post online carry any fish smell?
Nothing is more rude and offensive than working girls having bad, rotten fish odors in their vaginas. Do the bros a favor and broadcast the names of all such girls.

I hate filthy, smelly girls. Unless they take excellent care of their health and their hygiene, i dont even want to be near them.



It is amazing you manage to hook up with 20 sweet, young girls easily over 3 weeks in HCMC Jan this year
So this trip you going back to fuck these girls?
just waiting for saturday to come and go enjoy short trip at hcm once again

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

Hey Happy Fuck Asshole faggot

Your mother, wife, GF's, daughters all smell like dead fish.


Do those Viet girls which you fuck, take naked pic and post online carry any fish smell?



It is amazing you manage to hook up with 20 sweet, young girls easily over 3 weeks in HCMC Jan this year
So this trip you going back to fuck these girls?

[lost99]

.... i have booked my flight i will be on the red eye to jkta TONIGHT i will be waiting FOR YOU LOST99 at Mulia Senayan Hotel, at 11pm....lets see what your excuse will be NOW

This is my last response before i get to airport..., i book a flight NOW when there is conflict.....ill be in jakarta TONIGHT....

Hey Dumbass.... did you enjoy your last min. trip to Jakarta last night? The more lies you spew the worse it makes you look to all the readers here, and fewer carrotheads for you to chop with your Mutated Chickenshit tour service.

[FireShark]

Im sure noone really care about this aguement and im just wasteing my time but lets just look at the people are posting rubbish about me.

Fireshark...loser ex convicted criminal, now if he was the kingpin then that may be of some value, but no he was in gaol because he was the scapegoat for some loan sharking operation. He was released and for many years was unemployed and was begging for contacts to find a job in vn. Then recently on another thread boasting how unlike other guys who met vn girls who cheat them and trick them and ask for money, his gf was so good blah blah, then more recently his gf also play up run away from him, all i did was remind him of his earlier post and he get all angry and defensive...a buddy of h88 who carry balls for h88

Adam Huynh Aka Mutant Chicken Aka TomMAffolter;

1st me and H88 are just friends. Why should i carry his balls? He didn't even give me any benefits. At least I don't depend on a woman for a living unlike you. Adam Huynh, don't be a keyboard warrior.I already know how you look like and I will be in Vietnam soon. Dare to meet up. You must be taught a lesson. Vietnam is your turf. Are you scare of a ex-convict in Vietnam????

[FireShark]

Sorry mates..seriously why are you guys arguing about something which most of us don't care? I'm curious ...the last few pages of this thread are non informative except arguments ...

Not tired meh:(
Live in Sillypore so stress already...still argue over small things ...this is a virtual platform where you guys don't even know each other..why argue with someone you don't even know :confused:

Hahaha Who wanna to argue with this Bastard but he ought to be taught a lesson.

[FireShark]

People dont want to follow an incoherent rambling uneducated stealth agent to end up getting chopped. Your insults show your true colors, and do your business a disservice, you you are too stupid to realize. Go ahead, lets keep at this for as long as you want, im not backing down until you have the guts to meet me personally.

I'll wait for more of your cowardly excuses now.

No need to get your hands dirty; In Vietnam; $ talks. I would prefer to have a good seat and watch how this MC suffered

[hoian]

Wow I din know that TomMcFocker aka MC aka countless clones had so many enemies. What could be the reason?

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

Happyboy1 is a faggot clone with a happy anus!

This guy harassed me with his PMs. This faggy clone should be banned!


Hey Happy Fuck Asshole faggot

Your mother, wife, GF's, daughters all smell like dead fish.

Do those Viet girls which you fuck, take naked pic and post online carry any fish smell?



It is amazing you manage to hook up with 20 sweet, young girls easily over 3 weeks in HCMC Jan this year
So this trip you going back to fuck these girls?

[sc2c]

Wow I din know that TomMcFocker aka MC aka countless clones had so many enemies. What could be the reason?

The way I see it, as long as samsters don't use his service we are all his public enemy number 1. Anyone agrees on this.

[happyboy01]

CAPTAINXXXSOLO is clone of sadboy1.
This guy is a real asshole in this forum posting naked pic of non WL girls he fuck.

Happyboy1 is a faggot clone with a happy anus!

This guy harassed me with his PMs. This faggy clone should be banned!

[hoian]

But that sounds like lausung? Posting non-WL gals that he mind-fucked?

Omg now everyone's either an asshole or a stealth agent. :p

CAPTAINXXXSOLO is clone of sadboy1.
This guy is a real asshole in this forum posting naked pic of non WL girls he fuck.

[hoianfather]

My retard son, since when you become an asshole :eek:


Omg now everyone's either an asshole or a stealth agent. :p

[FireShark]

just checking in from humid jkta, noticed your rant...i must have hit a raw nerve and all i surmised about you must be accurate, as they say truth hurts.
Talking abt keyboard warriors, didnt you do this ALREADY with no result..last time you post at 5pm that you will be at some cafe at 3pm, challange me to go find you...i believe thats the sum total of what you are capable of, and i believe this is teh 3time YOU and your friends at the h88 have tried to expose me my posting some name or some pic supposedly me. Clearly it hasnt shut me up nor has it harmed me, dont you think that could possibly mean the name isnt accurate or that i have shielded my self from any such damage of being exposed. It doenst take much effort to figure out what kind of idiots are out there...if you want to harm or expose me, try these names Patrick Ang, Bernard Yu, Mario Ong, Jimmy Tan, Kelvin Trang, or even James Ng, these names probably would hurt me more than what you are doing...eagerly await meeting you....hahah what kind of loser would willing be friends with h88, is someone i would def have no fear of

Oh now you had admit you are that Bastard Clone Mutant Chicken; real name Adam Huynh. Since you are so arrogant; meet me in HCM when Im there. You don't even know how I look like. I just wonders now how many people had been scammed by you. I hope now everyone know who is this TomMaffolter aka Mutant Chicken (Which as being banned from Boss). I hope now people start to beware of this bastard

[Cool_Taurian]

This is getting interesting.

[sc2c]

Perhaps some bros in Singapore can start similar sites and cash in that market.



That is a brilliant idea bro, running a websites advertising for the girls. Like our local guy Andrew Lim did, now have to sit in jail for 13 mths and fined $27,000. Worse still have his picture splash on the ST today. This will definitely breaks my mom's heart, even though I'm jobless now and desperate for cash. I think I will shit in my pants when mata comes knocking on my door.

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

if you are smarter than the dumb cops, you wont get arrested.

The fuckers who owns KYNU, THIENDIA, DANCHOI ect... must be paying off vice cops, giving them free samples, let them lick the hos' brown asses ect.. to keep running. But they still get shutdown occasionally and have to rehost.

If you host your servers in Timbuktu running ads for hos in Vietnam, how the fuck are they gonna arrest you? Talk to hackers. They know how to make servers anonymous.


That is a brilliant idea bro, running a websites advertising for the girls. Like our local guy Andrew Lim did, now have to sit in jail for 13 mths and fined $27,000. Worse still have his picture splash on the ST today. This will definitely breaks my mom's heart, even though I'm jobless now and desperate for cash. I think I will shit in my pants when mata comes knocking on my door.

[hoian]

Looks like that pimp + his clones + his customers all gave up... all empty boasting and talk big.

The truth always prevails.

[hoianfather]

My retard son, while others have gone busy with something else, you are the only one with so much free time to pcc in front of screen.

The truth always prevails

Looks like that pimp + his clones + his customers all gave up... all empty boasting and talk big.

The truth always prevails.

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

If the hotel guy called the mamasan, why was the girl shocked when she saw a foreigner? She did not know you were one.

The hotel guy more likely called the ward's security police to alert him of the foreigner renting a room. The police told him it was OK to rent. Looks like not too many foreigners go out to those districts.

There was no real model at the hotel. There were many complaints of fake pics with girls in Phu Nhuan and Go Vap. The mamasan was afraid that whoring to foreigners would make Vietnam lose face and incur the wrath of local police. Also any complaints by foreigners to local police will be dealt with very severely and she could land in real deep shit. That's why she demanded $100 just to blow you off.

I would get very pissed off waiting long time for girls only for fuglies to show up. I would punish them severely for cheating me, including giving her tel and URL to local police, and perhaps claim I was robbed and raped by fuglies? OK. Maybe that's stretching it a bit.

How did a nice, knowledgeable, helpful guy like me get - 35 points in this forum? I am asking the mod to investigate this injustice.


Someone zapped me with this comment. Dude. That's mental. The hotel doesn't REALLY charge foreigners $100. That was just her way of saying No. It's Phu Nhuan, a much more low-traffic for-locals-only area than D10 or D8. They just didn't want to service a foreigner, period.

A thought occurred to me after I posted. When I checked in, the guy at the desk made a phone call and I heard him mention "nguoi nuoc ngoai" to the person on the other end. My theory: he might have called upstairs to that mamasan to warn her; maybe they deliberately sent the wrong girl down cuz they didn't want me to have the real one. So it is possible that the one in the photo really is at that hotel and they're just not gonna let a foreigner meet her.

BTW I am not Asian, I'm white. So it may be a rule based on race, and if that's the case then most guys here might still be able to access the girl in the photo, if she does indeed really exist.

[Wendella]

You must have an awful agenda for copying my nick.
Don't use my name if you intend to run a vices ring getting sucker from this forum.

He shouldn't be pretending to be you no matter what his agenda is. (or if you are the clone, you shouldn't be doing it)

It's super sleazy, any way you look at it, and whoever is doing this seems to be really prolific at it here.

Mental issues.

Just picture someone who goes through all the work needed to attend to all these clone accounts.

Such a cowardly and malicious thing to do.

I'm contacting the real person to find out which of these accounts is legit and which a clone. I think we can safely say that one of them is a clone.

[h0ian]

No offense u really sound like a cheapskate. Can only afford US20 but expect to fuck a model? Guys like u are precisely why I have stopped sharing any of my contacts. Sorry that I can't think of a nicer way to put this. :p



http://kynu.net/ow_userfiles/plugins/placy/linh-sa-hang-ve-ten-lua-26346-small.JPG

Looks pretty good, no? 400. A body type you don't often encounter on the websites. This one from Kynu, and very recent. I'm going to skip the usual template here because, well, this was not a good outcome.

The hotel location was Phan Xich Long in Phu Nhuan. I arrived at the room and texted my room number. Long wait, over 30 minutes before I heard the tap tap of high heels on the stairwell, then a knock. I opened the door. Mutual shock. She was surprised I was a foreigner. I was surprised she was COMPLETELY different from the photo you see above. NOT this body type at all but instead the much more typical short and average body weight. She did not look very slim and tall as suggested by the photo and the face was basically unattractive.

[h0ian]

I have yet to encounter a whore who enjoys her work. Most are just desperate for the money. The stuff u posted are obviously cut-and-paste from somewhere, written from a foreigner's (ang mor) point of view. :p


I only want to have all out loving sex with young, beautiful, classy girls. i fucked this sexy and sweet girl Linh Shisa in HCMC a few times. She has a beautiful body of a spinner with large natural boobs.

I was so horny with this little girl, fucked her in long sessions in just about every style and position imaginable, kissing, sucking on her tongue and her lips while she was shrieking in ecstasy.

She was a very sexy and horny young girl, not to mention very good looking. She got so wet her juice formed a foamy ring around her sexy pussy...hehehe

[h0ian]

My preference is to visit the villages to find virgins. :p

No offense, but my point is not to make sweeping statements. I have personally met in person a few gorgeous wechat gals by coincidence at K Circle while buying dinner. We have been keeping in touch ever since. I have yet to find a need to use their services as I am always accompanied on most of my trips but one fine day... I might call them if I am really horny.


We mean the ones who are on wechat with profiles that say they offer massage & sex. If you go that route, you'll find that you respond to some girl based on the photos you see in wechat, and then she comes over and looks NOTHING like that photo.

[Wendella]

You must have an awful agenda for copying my nick.
Don't use my name if you intend to run a vices ring getting sucker from this forum.

LSW didn't reply yet, but ... nice try.

Even in such a brief response you give away that you're not a native English speaker.

captainxxsolo is a clone.

[h0ian]

Your credibility is worth ZERO because you have been PROVEN as a LIAR.

Someone zapped me with this comment. Dude. That's mental. The hotel doesn't REALLY charge foreigners $100.

And zapping anonymously does seem a bit unmanly. :) No worries though, I don't really care about points.

I'm glad to up you +8 in return if you can up me 5 or more :)

Thanks in advance :D

[h0ian]

It is easy for the girl to tell if Wendella is asian or stupid white man...lol

If the hotel guy called the mamasan, why was the girl shocked when she saw a foreigner? She did not know you were one.

The hotel guy more likely called the ward's security police to alert him of the foreigner renting a room. The police told him it was OK to rent. Looks like not too many foreigners go out to those districts.

[Wendella]

Your credibility is worth ZERO because you have been PROVEN as a LIAR.

:D:D:D

A clone criticizing people's credibility. That's hilarious.

You know they've done psychological studies on internet trolls. Results don't bode well for the likes of you. And you. And you. And you. Etc. :p

[hoian]

Clone alert! :D

Your credibility is worth ZERO because you have been PROVEN as a LIAR.

It is easy for the girl to tell if Wendella is asian or stupid white man...lol

[hoian]

Long story short... u went around begging for WL contacts.
Same thing u accused me of.

Difference is, I have shown a screen capture to prove that your lackey lausung was lying through his teeth.

Karma's a bitch. :D


And abot the contact he claims to have shared with me, this is the whole story...

[hoian]

Clone alert! :D

No offense u really sound like a cheapskate. Can only afford US20 but expect to fuck a model? Guys like u are precisely why I have stopped sharing any of my contacts. Sorry that I can't think of a nicer way to put this....

I have yet to encounter a whore who enjoys her work. Most are just desperate for the money. The stuff u posted are obviously cut-and-paste from somewhere, written from a foreigner's (ang mor) point of view...p

My preference is to visit the villages to find virgins...

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

The web sites divide the girls's locations into sections, Hanoi, HCMC ect...

Yes i agree it's good price. How do i know which ones are in hanoi?

[hoian]

Talk is cheap. Show us the proof.

...i think thats more than enough proof. YOu repeating the same LIE doesnt make it a truth...There is documentary proof you pm lausung begging for contacts...

[Wendella]

Id love to have a read of these studies you mentioned

Enjoy

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324

The rest of your post is imagination based and the typical hyperbolic hypercritical sort of thing you create -- the article recommends I ignore such stuff, so I will.

[hoian]

1. Nice fictional story u have cooked up. Show proof that I begged someone for whore contacts. Begging goes something like this..."Pls I beg u...can you pls give me the contact of your whore?"... Just because u are a beggar does not make me one, too.

2. Show proof that I have clones.

3. Show proof that I am a stealth agent.


Show us...YOU MEAN YOU AND YOUR CLONES RIGHT BECAUSE IM SURE THE VAST MAJORITY ...

[hoian]

Bingo! U have actually dug up proof that TomMcForker / Mutantchick / Adam Huynh is a troll and psychopath.

Let all the ppl in this Forum be warned.... including idiots who might actually wanna consider engaging his services.



Enjoy

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886914000324

[Wendella]

Sadism, ok this im guilty as charged as i do get a perverse pleasure in exposing idiots and losers for who they are, they have spent so many years in denial, its fun to shatter a few mirrors.

First, it's interesting you applied this to yourself. I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about the clones. I believed you when you said they aren't you, and I don't think they are you.

But here you are evaluating yourself, as if it was about you.

I think it's a lot simpler than all the supposed reasons you're listing. You just like it. You enjoy abusing people. Out here in the real world I don't know anyone who is like that. I think even in SBF guys like you aren't too common.

But for me at least it's really tiresome. I'd like it if we could talk like adults here rather than the constant personal putdowns all the time.

You probably shouldn't have written all that in the forum. You're being too self-revealing. Not sure if you realize how that comes across to people whose personality is different than yours. And there's people here who have it in for you, which I'm sure you've noticed.

[hoian]

So many useless words and not a single shred of evidence... I am starting to feel bored... *yawns*

"Dark Tetrad" of personality traits...

[lausung]

Reading this thread bring back some memory.
I don't bother posting the facts.
there is a screen shot of YOU begging lausung to share contacts of coworkers of the parkson freelancer that lausung upp...the whole premise of your request doenst even make sense if you had any real understanding of women.



Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word.
You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world. :p
Enjoy
The rest of your post is imagination based and the typical hyperbolic hypercritical sort of thing you create -- the article recommends I ignore such stuff, so I will.


Mr Hoian, you have so much time in cyberworld. Just curious how did you allocate time for your model gf and business? :p

Anyway wish you good luck with your vietnam business and story.
I did have a good laugh with my friends when i tell them about u and your $20 five star hotel. :D
1. Nice fictional story u have cooked up. Show proof that I begged someone for whore contacts. Begging goes something like this..."Pls I beg u...can you pls give me the contact of your whore?"... Just because u are a beggar does not make me one, too.

Ciao
All the Best ;)

[CAPTAINXXXSOLO]

You are just a dumb pimp, trying to make a living off prostitutes.

Perhaps you can survive by licking their butts and their asses after their sessions...

you are the clone, the things you are posting are often DIRECT quotes of other peoples posts, even the list of girls you are disseminating is a list stolen from someone else. and the list btw half the girls listed have already quit

[hoian]

Talk about pot calling the kettle black, aren't u guilty of the same thing? U go around begging me & everyone else for info. Lied to everyone that you are not going to use pimp services. Then posted whatever info I gave u... fortunately it was just an insignificant hotel info which I don't even go back to these days.

Even posted my mobile no. in public... fortunately I was smarter than u... it was only a disposable no. and your pimp was not able to incriminate me with that no. LOL~
Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word. You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world.

---

Btw I still have the PM where u messaged me desperately to beg for a cheap gal-friendly hotel. If u were so "rich & successful" as your pimp made u out to be... why would u even bother to PM me for a $20 hotel contact? I guess the last laugh's on you. :D

Let's face it. You are a LOSER. The only "friend" you have is Tom / MC and that friendship is worth US$100.

Anyway I am sorry things did not work out for you in VN. I would be disgusted, too, and never return to VN again if I had a pimp that only knows where to find cheap ugly whores.

Wish u better luck in India or whichever destination next you are planning your whoring trips. :p

Anyway wish you good luck with your vietnam business and story. I did have a good laugh with my friends when i tell them about u and your $20 five star hotel.

[hoian]

A very simple question to debunk your theory:
Have I ever PMed u to ask for contacts since the beginning?

Let's face it. There are only 2 beggars here.

1) lausung who begged for info from everyone here; and for u to lead him around like a blind bat.

2) You, who begged for US$100 from him and other unsuspecting blind bats.


im much more liberal abt definition of begging, no need to use the word beg in your request...a begger is someone who has NOTHING, no leverage, nothing to barter with, and is asking for something from someone with much more status...have u heard of any beggars in vn or in any country use the word beg when they asking for money?...they just stick out their hand with same sad fuck face, which is the impression i got looking at your pm to lausing

[FireShark]

This is the exact example of why i call you a pathetic chicken shit man...you only act big when you THINK i dont know you...you think you wont be betrayed by who you think are your friends, its Patick Ang own big mouth that i know things abt his "friends", he is the one that betray their confidence...if you have ever met h88 then you can be sure i know u....and if i have scammed so many people surely there will be reports against me...

Since you had admitted that you are that faggot Mutant Chicken aka TomMAffolter; I do hope that all samsters will be careful when dealing with someone like you.

[Wendella]

Mr Wendella, if anything i really learn here, trust is a dirty word.
You circulate info I gave u and cause it to be post in forum openly. That is breaching our agreement but I know everyone is all for ownself, whoever give u benefit, you become their good friend. Disgusting but this is the real world. :p

Ciao
All the Best ;)

Your sentiment and tone seem to have drastically changed from our PM correspondence, so I can only guess that you've been absorbing and believing too much propaganda. I'm about equally friendly to almost anyone I talk to in PM regardless what's being discussed. Everyone who I talk to Im sure would back me on that. And I had thought that would include you too. This tone I see here is all new. We talked about that incident at the time. I came to you and apologized, right? Your response to me then was that it was no big deal, don't worry. I had told one person, and that just to verify that a place he had posted about was same one that I knew. I never expected he would go post the address on the forum. I think you know all this. It's disappointing to see you suddenly switch to such a harsh view, I think we have had some good honest PM discussions and it's a pity it goes this way now. I really don't think Tom needs your support against me. And I think it's plain to anyone who reads here what he is like. Anyway, you just made one critical post about me, and by far the rest of talk between us has been very different, so I will try not to take this one too seriously. :(

[Wendella]

Lets get to specifics the artricle was abt TROLLS not clones...you merely extended it to a totally different matter, and whilst you may not have intended the slurr towards me, im sure hoian thought it was,

I skip over any dialog between you and Hoian, so I did not see his post.

Trolling and clones are completely different things? I would say that a 'clone' is a tool (amonst others) used by trolls. The one who creates the clones here is a troll.

You have an obsession with criticizing people. It's gotten very old now. It's not ok with you if people here just discuss the hobby. It has to be turned into this personal attack stuff always. For you, that's fun. It's the opposite of fun for most people.

When I said it doesn't bode well, what I meant is that people of that personality type do not change. It's just how they are, and will always be. So it means for anyone who doesn't enjoy being subjected to that, there's only one option which is to avoid someone who is like this.

[hoian]

If u ask me, pimps like TomMcFarker encourages minions like lausung to be sly and conniving -- thus creating an environment whereby no seniors trust anyone or wanna share anything anymore. And that means good business for Tom. A clever strategy if I may say so.

[Wendella]

I'm done with this thread.

[hoian]

That was just click-bait. U won't get an answer unless you pay him US$50. Just google and u will find 100s of them but generally KTVs are expensive and a waste of time especially if u are travelling alone. Gals working in KTVs are usually just so-so. Just google "karaoke ôm" if you wanna find out more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2_uRWxIDdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4SgtbUEWI

Here's one for horny Koreans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM290eG1mLg

Wow, sounds cool. What's the name of the ktv? Will most certainly pay a visit.

[sadboy1]

That was just click-bait. U won't get an answer unless you pay him US$50. Just google and u will find 100s of them but generally KTVs are expensive and a waste of time especially if u are travelling alone. Gals working in KTVs are usually just so-so. Just google "karaoke ôm" if you wanna find out more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2_uRWxIDdY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rU4SgtbUEWI

Here's one for horny Koreans:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM290eG1mLg
Crazy and rich. Take so many girls

[hoian]

All your posts have no names & addresses, too. Hence, they can only come under 2 categories:

1) Fake
2) Clickbait

Likewise I can also say you have never been to any karaokes. U just made them up to lure unsuspecting newbies.

.....you have never been to them, posting you tube vids that are a few years old with no addresses...

[sammyboyfor]

yeah i have never been but my custimers can attest ti that i have taken them tehre, and i know the price and the procedure...something that yoiur dont, all u can do is pull out your clone and beg for info by pm

You have "customers" in this forum? :confused:

[hoian]

Yes. And here are the facts:

1) Tom is a clone of mutantchicken
2) He has been posting "clickbaits"... meaning FRs with no names/addresses just to lure newbies to PM him
3) He is a stealth pimp using the forum to get customers without paying ad fees.


You have "customers" in this forum? :confused:

[sammyboyfor]

Yes. And here are the facts:

1) Tom is a clone of mutantchicken
2) He has been posting "clickbaits"... meaning FRs with no names/addresses just to lure newbies to PM him
3) He is a stealth pimp using the forum to get customers without paying ad fees.

If that is the case I'll get the guy in charge of ads to contact him.

[Hurricane88]

If that is the case I'll get the guy in charge of ads to contact him.

Boss, dun need to waste time...he will never advertise...always will find loop holes and operate stealth mode...:)

[hoian]

Now that Tom has been banned (I am sure he will re-surface again as a clone) and his followers like lausung has been proven a liar, this thread no longer serves any purpose.

Time for me to take a rest. :p

[lost99]

I'm sure his clones will pop up again to do his dirty work. I have some suspicions who they may be, but not 100% sure at this moment. If they keep on posting i will know however.

[Vespa01]

My twin bro, finally u realise u are not competent to run this thread. Someone else done better than u :p
Volcano is still the person for clubbing...but he stopped posting.

Currently hottest club is DC club @. Cong Quynh...but more for locals...:)

Gold 02, Lush, 030 still spins music nightly,..Google is the best source now...:)


You post information openly, my twin bro must be angry. Nobody will contact him in future :D
If you just read above in the thread just ONE day you will see that there is a LOT of info. It's bad form to come here and ask such a question without even reading back even a little bit in the forum to see what has been said.

Ah ok, I see. Just cloning around, rookie?