Are Uber/Grab drivers making decent income?

[arsenal168]

Straits Time (12 Oct 2016) Home Page 1 carries an article citing many Uber/Grab drivers are trying their luck on picking up street passengers i.e. those who did not book them through Apps. It is illegal. Why are they doing that if they claim to earn $5000-$6000 a month?

[huhu123]

can make but long hour.....some driving even 15 to 17 hr. But average 12 hr work 6 days with incentive should be around 1k per week.

[arsenal168]

can make but long hour.....some driving even 15 to 17 hr. But average 12 hr work 6 days with incentive should be around 1k per week.

I heard some coffee shop talk that the Uber/Grab's incentive scheme are a temporary thing to attract drivers to join & riders to book(free/discounted rides). Once they stop the incentives, drivers' income will drop substantially. If the Apps booking is overwhelming, the drivers won't need to flout the rules & solicit pax on street, become 霸王车 like the 70s.

[Drooler]

From someone who has driven for 9 months. Not easy to earn. Your car is important, need to be fuel efficient. I only drive to subsidise my cost of car ownership.

[stonned]

I once talked to a taxi uncle and was told that being Uber/Grab driver exclusively is much harder than a licensed one. Main thing being that Uber/Grab drivers can't pick up passengers from taxi stands and roadside. So they have to take bookings only. And that will take place mainly only during peak hours or some really ulu places. It's not so rosy as painted by some high earners, which are more exceptions than the norm.

[Welbeck23]

I once talked to a taxi uncle and was told that being Uber/Grab driver exclusively is much harder than a licensed one. Main thing being that Uber/Grab drivers can't pick up passengers from taxi stands and roadside. So they have to take bookings only. And that will take place mainly only during peak hours or some really ulu places. It's not so rosy as painted by some high earners, which are more exceptions than the norm.

Very logical!

[weeklys]

Currently just out of job. Driving grab abt a month now.

Average daily daily billings (excluding deductions) = $170
Start 7:30am and ends ard 6:30 to 9pm depending on where I am.
Drive Monday to Saturday only.
Net earnings per day : approx $80 after deducting petrol, grab 20% comm and $60 car rental.

So u think if it's feasible?

[DieselTech]

Currently just out of job. Driving grab abt a month now.

Average daily daily billings (excluding deductions) = $170
Start 7:30am and ends ard 6:30 to 9pm depending on where I am.
Drive Monday to Saturday only.
Net earnings per day : approx $80 after deducting petrol, grab 20% comm and $60 car rental.

So u think if it's feasible?

$80 per day for a 12-hour job? Not so good IMO

[weeklys]

$80 per day for a 12-hour job? Not so good IMO

Precisely. Its just a temp measure to get u by OR u need a car for some other jobs while u still have the flexi to do some grabbing to help offset a bit of your cost.

[Nexcunt]

$80 per day for a 12-hour job? Not so good IMO

And no CPF, medical/annual leave ...

[luv2f]

With no basic benefits of CPF and Annual Leave it works out only to be around $7.00 an hour ($80.00/12 hrs work).

Not so attractive (Slightly better than a Cleaner's Pay.)

[sadfa]

And no CPF, medical/annual leave ...

Ya lor.

And on the road so long, car wear Down.
Plus got accident how? N drive so long, will affect health.
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[SiaSuay]

Very soon there will be no more taxi drivers .

[sadfa]

Very soon there will be no more taxi drivers .

Wrong.

Taxi drivers is garbagements fall back for their failed economic policies n how they failed spore.

If even taxi driving also cannot, there'll b tons of unemployed ppl. Then garbagement will b in real big problem n have to quickly siam when sporeans finally rise up
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[SiaSuay]

Wrong.

Taxi drivers is garbagements fall back for their failed economic policies n how they failed spore.

If even taxi driving also cannot, there'll b tons of unemployed ppl. Then garbagement will b in real big problem n have to quickly siam when sporeans finally rise up
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Don't you know that the government is now testing out driverless taxis ?

[sadfa]

Don't you know that the government is now testing out driverless taxis ?

Given their fcuked up track record in driverless technology by smrt, in fact in other new technologys, only fcuking morons will take driverless taxis.

Don't b surprised if u go sentosa, the taxi will dive into the sea. And the doors won't open hor n it'll drive to batam first before going sentosa
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[arsenal168]

Given their fcuked up track record in driverless technology by smrt, in fact in other new technologys, only fcuking morons will take driverless taxis.

Don't b surprised if u go sentosa, the taxi will dive into the sea. And the doors won't open hor n it'll drive to batam first before going sentosa
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U r funny...😆 But I agree with u. I myself will never board a driverless taxi. Which sane person will entrust his life to an automated machine on the dangerous road.

[IAmAwesome]

U r funny...😆 But I agree with u. I myself will never board a driverless taxi. Which sane person will entrust his life to an automated machine on the dangerous road.

Good point actually

[arsenal168]

not profitable at all la if got rent car and do. i do 6hours on weekdays everyday abt 8pm-2am barely reach 100bucks cause i got classes in the day. then weekends 8pm-6am about 150-200bucks then deduct rental,deduct petrol 1 week maybe can get $80-$90 profit only:rolleyes: but got car to use la. now incentive difficult to attain also liao

Currently just out of job. Driving grab abt a month now.

Average daily daily billings (excluding deductions) = $170
Start 7:30am and ends ard 6:30 to 9pm depending on where I am.
Drive Monday to Saturday only.
Net earnings per day : approx $80 after deducting petrol, grab 20% comm and $60 car rental.

So u think if it's feasible?

True picture from the horses' mouth.
Nabei...Uber/Grab still try to con Singaporeans to carve out a career as their drivers. What crap!

[ahjie1989]

If drive so long and u get so little means u failed. Clearing 100 in 3 hours is the normal. Got to know the spots

[lasupkia]

A very simple logic.
If really can earn $6000 per month,
1. Do they need to advertise so agressive? Word of mouth spread would have formed queues at their offices for new drivers signup.
2. Do they need to offer all sorts of rewards and incentives?
3. All delivery drivers who knows how to use smartphones will sign up.

Sadly, this 2 are the biggest scams. Setting low fares that drivers can't earn. Most rely on incentives but these are being cut lower and harder to achieve.
Rental companies also suck thd blood of drivers with higher rentals and unreasonable demands when vehicle returned.

[hannibald]

I drive Uber on part time basis, using my own car.

Start 630pm, usually ends about 1130pm on weekdays. 5 hours, with probably 30 mins break in between.

Average income, excluding petrol cost, per night is between 80-100. Petrol cost is about 25 a night. So nett off petrol, you earn between 55-75.

On Weekends, i do a bit longer, 10-12 hours. Average takings, after Uber commission is between 180 - 220. Petrol on weekends will be a bit more shiong, up to 40 a day.

So my 2 cents

For part timers, if u looking to rent car, still feasible, but bear in mind, must go for cheap rental. S$45-55 max. You get to use the car and still earn some side income during weekend. But you must be willing to put in the effort.

If use own car, definitely viable. Just use own car for side income, each week earns about 300 - 400, can use for many things, for example chiong KTV or massage palour.


For full timer, definitely can earn 3-4K, if you put in effort and drive min 10 hours a day.
You should be able to get min 100 - 120 a day, nett of petrol and rental.
To increase your takings, you may consider going to JB for petrol, which can save quite a fair bit.

[ceeko]

Go to JB for petrol must be near empty tank then worth it. To/Fro the toll already how much? End up u save like $10-15 per tank of petrol and the queue at customs is just insane.

If u really wanna risk going in under 3/4, kena caught, first fine $500, thats 10 days retnal. Dumb move if u ask me.

[Giansex]

I drive Uber on part time basis, using my own car.

Start 630pm, usually ends about 1130pm on weekdays. 5 hours, with probably 30 mins break in between.

Average income, excluding petrol cost, per night is between 80-100. Petrol cost is about 25 a night. So nett off petrol, you earn between 55-75.
bro same lomi drive ro
On Weekends, i do a bit longer, 10-12 hours. Average takings, after Uber commission is between 180 - 220. Petrol on weekends will be a bit more shiong, up to 40 a day.

So my 2 cents

For part timers, if u looking to rent car, still feasible, but bear in mind, must go for cheap rental. S$45-55 max. You get to use the car and still earn some side income during weekend. But you must be willing to put in the effort.

If use own car, definitely viable. Just use own car for side income, each week earns about 300 - 400, can use for many things, for example chiong KTV or massage palour.


For full timer, definitely can earn 3-4K, if you put in effort and drive min 10 hours a day.
You should be able to get min 100 - 120 a day, nett of petrol and rental.
To increase your takings, you may consider going to JB for petrol, which can save quite a fair bit.

same lo.my timing 2000-2300. weekend 5hrs.drive to feed my bonking habit.hahaha..meet lots of chio bu too

[retepoet]

I am thinking of using my own car to drive for leisure earnings :p

[devilman]

From someone who has driven for 9 months. Not easy to earn. Your car is important, need to be fuel efficient. I only drive to subsidise my cost of car ownership.

You are very honest . That's what my colleagues are doing .

[Giansex]

I am thinking of using my own car to drive for leisure earnings :p

can try la..i using my own car.so otot.u meet ol,syt,milf,jap,korea.hahaha but can see only

[Facetime]

Hi all,

Just to clarify, using own car have to switch your car to z10 if I'm not wrong. And the insurance and road tax 's much expensive.
I'm consider to use my own car as part time too. Any kind soul can advise and is it profitable

[leetona]

Using own car, u need to register one company and transfer the car to company's name.. Your personal insurance will no longer have ncd. Have to buy under z10 or z11. It's about 3-5k. Road tax unchange.you have refinance your car loan..
I'm driving part time.. Weekly gross about $1200. After deduction or rental, and petrol.. Think how much I left

[Sensor69]

Using own car, u need to register one company and transfer the car to company's name.. Your personal insurance will no longer have ncd. Have to buy under z10 or z11. It's about 3-5k. Road tax unchange.you have refinance your car loan..
I'm driving part time.. Weekly gross about $1200. After deduction or rental, and petrol.. Think how much I left

How much is the rental bro?

[sadfa]

Again. This forum needs my posts to set the standards

All these uber grabcar started in foreign countries where there's few taxis on the roads looking for customers n you've to call them. N tons of private car owners who can sideline as taxis

Of course its difficult to succeed in spore where there's so many taxis n market is very very saturated.

So in order to suceed, u must work damn hard or the taxi industry cock up like peak hours, too many ppl n too few taxis. Or taxi too.expensive
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[leetona]

How much is the rental bro?


Mine wish $520

[otamay]

After reading all the inputs from bros here, seems not so attractive after all.

[QuestForGold]

After reading all the inputs from bros here, seems not so attractive after all.

Going to get worst after gahmen control tighter.

[lightfoot]

In the near future no need a driver .

[KooningKing]

In the near future no need a driver .

True, and more accidents :p

[Craigchest]

Going to get worst after gahmen control tighter.

Fully agreed with you.

[malcolm81]

I just started. i have full time job. My Altis is $537 after discount is 497 per week. Roughly 71 bux per day. Not worth my time and effort.

work at 9 but need to come out at 7 to have minium 2 trips. 6 off work, need to clock min. 5 - 6 trips just to cover rental. So part time do this job not worth. if u have no need for night class for upgrading ur skills, maybe 1 week can cover the rental. If have ur sat and sun burn,

[Jay Chou]

I just started. i have full time job. My Altis is $537 after discount is 497 per week. Roughly 71 bux per day. Not worth my time and effort.

work at 9 but need to come out at 7 to have minium 2 trips. 6 off work, need to clock min. 5 - 6 trips just to cover rental. So part time do this job not worth. if u have no need for night class for upgrading ur skills, maybe 1 week can cover the rental. If have ur sat and sun burn,

Vehicle rental $497 per week.
One month $1988 cost of rental fees.
Haven't include petrol and parking fees.
Doesn't seems worth to drive. 😞

[malcolm81]

Jaychou, agree with u. on this. If 1 week 5 weeks earn 112 - 120. minus petrol, car park and etc. not worth.

[logitech123]

6k per mth is attainable if you work hard.

own car with 30% uber esso fleet card discount.
been driving uber/grab for the last 2mths.
1wk 6days. drive during peak hour about 9hrs a day.
average about 1 to 1.5k net profit per wk after deduction

i also bought a cheap civic and rent out to 2 relief driver. extra $800 passive income per mth

those who cannot earn $ usually is lazy or expensive car rental

[sadfa]

6k per mth is attainable if you work hard.

own car with 30% uber esso fleet card discount.
been driving uber/grab for the last 2mths.
1wk 6days. drive during peak hour about 9hrs a day.
average about 1 to 1.5k net profit per wk after deduction

i also bought a cheap civic and rent out to 2 relief driver. extra $800 passive income per mth

those who cannot earn $ usually is lazy or expensive car rental

6k net very hard to believe

Even Cabbies who r single hirers n drive literally whole day n drive peak hours n nap during down time can't do that unless they damn lucky or always get full day booking.
They make 3k very happy le
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[Scenarios]

Jaychou, agree with u. on this. If 1 week 5 weeks earn 112 - 120. minus petrol, car park and etc. not worth.

Seems so actually

[arsenal168]

Read a piece of news in the Chinese daily 新明日报2 days ago. This family booked a Uber car to travel from Queenstown area to Marina Cruise Centre. They r going for a cruise holiday. It was supposed to be a 20 mins journey. End up the lady driver took the wrong route n the journey became 45 mins. They were late n could not board the ship. The family went Uber office to complain n demand compensation of the cruise fee amounting to $2000+. Uber front desk shoo them away, saying it is the driver's problem. The driver is just a partner, not employer of Uber. This family damn suay...now how to get compensation?

[Tranh]

6k net very hard to believe

Even Cabbies who r single hirers n drive literally whole day n drive peak hours n nap during down time can't do that unless they damn lucky or always get full day booking.
They make 3k very happy le
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Well said actually

[logitech123]

6k net very hard to believe

Even Cabbies who r single hirers n drive literally whole day n drive peak hours n nap during down time can't do that unless they damn lucky or always get full day booking.
They make 3k very happy le
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the rental is the killer...
how much taxi are paying per mth???
my privately own car cost about 1/3 compared to taxi and i rent it out half day to relief driver as well...
its possible depend on your vehicle cost

for those who stuck with LCR rental.. i suggest you finding a relief driver to split the rental cost

[BroW]

I don't see why is not decent?

[CumExplorer]

i can see it is a good side income :p

[iceman72]

Hi bro,

I am thinking of driving for Uber on a part time basis using my own car, there are a few thing I would to enquire and would appreciate your answer:

1) Total cost for registering a company and converting of insurance.
2) I understand that my car would have to be re-finance, could you elaborate how this is done?
3) In the event that I decided not to continue with Uber, what will happen to the financing of my car after the re-financing?

[sadfa]

the rental is the killer...
how much taxi are paying per mth???
my privately own car cost about 1/3 compared to taxi and i rent it out half day to relief driver as well...
its possible depend on your vehicle cost

for those who stuck with LCR rental.. i suggest you finding a relief driver to split the rental cost

Think rental still 180 whole day.
Plus say 60 for diesel whole day, if u want to hit 150 nett a day, u need to hit 400 a day.

You know how siong that is.

It's not a matter of not drinking kopi with other Cabbies instead of driving. Even if u cheong during evening peak hours, u cant rake in 400 during that 2 to 3 hours. It's not like u one person picking fruit non stop. U can pick 12 hours non stop. But the fares will b snapped up by other Cabbies when u go back

It's not that easy. U need to work hard n smart

And Cabbies can pick up fares from streets. Uber can't. When not peak hours, fares will just jump into cab n won't book n wait for uber
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[Icecass]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.ft.com/content/88fdc58e-754f-11e6-b60a-de4532d5ea35

Worth a read.

[quem]

I just took Grab Share this morning.
Much cheaper than Grabcar unless not on rush.
The driver was formerly a Uber driver and told me he quit Uber after there was plenty of clients complain.
The complain was addressed by Uber officers in Singapore acting yaya and big shot with threats with termination.
So he just quit and switched to Grab and so far so good.
Driver told me recently many quit Uber and so the Uber officers started booking their Grab cars and giving benefits/incentives to them to return to drive for Uber.
However my driver this morning decided to stick to Grab after informing Uber that they sucks.

Anyone to share here.

[dalat]

I just took Grab Share this morning.
Much cheaper than Grabcar unless not on rush.
The driver was formerly a Uber driver and told me he quit Uber after there was plenty of clients complain.
The complain was addressed by Uber officers in Singapore acting yaya and big shot with threats with termination.
So he just quit and switched to Grab and so far so good.
Driver told me recently many quit Uber and so the Uber officers started booking their Grab cars and giving benefits/incentives to them to return to drive for Uber.
However my driver this morning decided to stick to Grab after informing Uber that they sucks.

Anyone to share here.

I reckoned clients complain about anything and usually about routes taken. Uber will add more fees if go longer way.

[tobleu]

I reckoned clients complain about anything and usually about routes taken. Uber will add more fees if go longer way.

Agree with you on this.

[metaldoor]

I just took Grab Share this morning.
Much cheaper than Grabcar unless not on rush.
The driver was formerly a Uber driver and told me he quit Uber after there was plenty of clients complain.
The complain was addressed by Uber officers in Singapore acting yaya and big shot with threats with termination.
So he just quit and switched to Grab and so far so good.
Driver told me recently many quit Uber and so the Uber officers started booking their Grab cars and giving benefits/incentives to them to return to drive for Uber.
However my driver this morning decided to stick to Grab after informing Uber that they sucks.

Anyone to share here.

Thanks sharing.

[Citizens]

Hi bro,

I am thinking of driving for Uber on a part time basis using my own car, there are a few thing I would to enquire and would appreciate your answer:

1) Total cost for registering a company and converting of insurance.
2) I understand that my car would have to be re-finance, could you elaborate how this is done?
3) In the event that I decided not to continue with Uber, what will happen to the financing of my car after the re-financing?

I was an Uber driver for 6 months. Not worth driving for Uber. I have switched to driving Citycab now and find it less stressful and take home more for the same hours of driving.

When I was with Uber, I was pulling in @ $9K gross monthly driving from 8.00am to 9.00pm every Mon-Sat. Sunday was my rest day. But after deductions for rental, petrol, fees, parking + miscellanous, my net take home is only @ $3K

I switched to driving a regular taxi for Citycab as a relief driver. My shift is everyday from 6.00am to 5.00pm. After all deductions I can still have take home @ $3.5-3.8K monthly.

[KingTort]

I just took Grab Share this morning.
Much cheaper than Grabcar unless not on rush.
The driver was formerly a Uber driver and told me he quit Uber after there was plenty of clients complain.
The complain was addressed by Uber officers in Singapore acting yaya and big shot with threats with termination.
So he just quit and switched to Grab and so far so good.
Driver told me recently many quit Uber and so the Uber officers started booking their Grab cars and giving benefits/incentives to them to return to drive for Uber.
However my driver this morning decided to stick to Grab after informing Uber that they sucks.

Anyone to share here.

Jumping from uber or grab should be simple since their market is the same although they are competitors.

The local Uber officers are really too much if they acted like Big Guns dealing with the drivers who are their clients.

Wonder how much you paid?

[Citizens]

Jumping from uber or grab should be simple since their market is the same although they are competitors.

The local Uber officers are really too much if they acted like Big Guns dealing with the drivers who are their clients.

Wonder how much you paid?

The Uber & Grab companies in Singapore operate differently from their counterparts in the other countries. In Singapore the government actually funded them and invested in them. They also seconded their people to be in the senior management of these companies. The government has vested interest to see these companies succeed and if you observe carefully you can see their "guided hands" in the way these companies are operating. So dun be surprised by the high handedness coming from the top as they think they are part of the government. :mad:

[Akiraza]

The Uber & Grab companies in Singapore operate differently from their counterparts in the other countries. In Singapore the government actually funded them and invested in them. They also seconded their people to be in the senior management of these companies. The government has vested interest to see these companies succeed and if you observe carefully you can see their "guided hands" in the way these companies are operating. So dun be surprised by the high handedness coming from the top as they think they are part of the government. :mad:

Go go citizens, dump the manure :D

[sadfa]

The Uber & Grab companies in Singapore operate differently from their counterparts in the other countries. In Singapore the government actually funded them and invested in them. They also seconded their people to be in the senior management of these companies. The government has vested interest to see these companies succeed and if you observe carefully you can see their "guided hands" in the way these companies are operating. So dun be surprised by the high handedness coming from the top as they think they are part of the government. :mad:

It's shocking garbagement invested in them when they're competition against taxi companies garbagement have an interest in.

Plus uber etc clearly is against the law so why garbagement invest in them????

And ubers business model can easily b adopted by other taxi companies other than they're private cars. Not 2 mention uber cars use petrol not diesel
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[arsenal168]

Recounting an amusing incident from last week.

Was with a lady friend at Seletar Mall. We decided to go Geylang Lor 9 for frog porridge. It was about 9pm.

She called for a UberX.

A Toyota Wish came. Young Chinese male driver in his 20s.

We got in. He looked at the destination n asked hesitantly: "How to go huh?"

My lady friend looked at me so I told the driver just take the easy way. TPE-CTE-PIE n exit Sims Way.

So off we go. I was chatting with her but paid attention to the route.

When the driver joined PIE from CTE, I roughy the drive will be uneventful. So my focus shifted cos at that time, my friend was tickling me in jest.

The next time we looked up, the driver had passed Sims Way exit n nearing Paya Lebar exit!

I asked him where he is going?!

He replied he is exiting Paya Lebar.

I asked him why he went the long way round?

He replied loudly that he is following his GPS!!!

Nabei! What a clown!

The next day my lady friend filed a complaint to Uber and got the fare waived by half.

Wonder if the driver got paid.

[Icecass]

Economics 101... supply and demand. Kill the demand, the supply will automatically cease. Stop waiting and act with your cash.

[quem]

I was an Uber driver for 6 months. Not worth driving for Uber. I have switched to driving Citycab now and find it less stressful and take home more for the same hours of driving.

When I was with Uber, I was pulling in @ $9K gross monthly driving from 8.00am to 9.00pm every Mon-Sat. Sunday was my rest day. But after deductions for rental, petrol, fees, parking + miscellanous, my net take home is only @ $3K

I switched to driving a regular taxi for Citycab as a relief driver. My shift is everyday from 6.00am to 5.00pm. After all deductions I can still have take home @ $3.5-3.8K monthly.

Tks bro for insights.

[quem]

The Uber & Grab companies in Singapore operate differently from their counterparts in the other countries. In Singapore the government actually funded them and invested in them. They also seconded their people to be in the senior management of these companies. The government has vested interest to see these companies succeed and if you observe carefully you can see their "guided hands" in the way these companies are operating. So dun be surprised by the high handedness coming from the top as they think they are part of the government. :mad:

Interesting insights. Wonder why need to be elite.

[quem]

Recounting an amusing incident from last week.

Was with a lady friend at Seletar Mall. We decided to go Geylang Lor 9 for frog porridge. It was about 9pm.

She called for a UberX.

A Toyota Wish came. Young Chinese male driver in his 20s.

We got in. He looked at the destination n asked hesitantly: "How to go huh?"

My lady friend looked at me so I told the driver just take the easy way. TPE-CTE-PIE n exit Sims Way.

So off we go. I was chatting with her but paid attention to the route.

When the driver joined PIE from CTE, I roughy the drive will be uneventful. So my focus shifted cos at that time, my friend was tickling me in jest.

The next time we looked up, the driver had passed Sims Way exit n nearing Paya Lebar exit!

I asked him where he is going?!

He replied he is exiting Paya Lebar.

I asked him why he went the long way round?

He replied loudly that he is following his GPS!!!

Nabei! What a clown!

The next day my lady friend filed a complaint to Uber and got the fare waived by half.

Wonder if the driver got paid.

Tks tks..exactly what the Grab driver was telling me when he driving for uber. If the passenger dont tell the route the driver will act blur follow the gps.

Now Grab price is fixed so the driver follow gps no complain.

[quem]

Economics 101... supply and demand. Kill the demand, the supply will automatically cease. Stop waiting and act with your cash.

Demand is always high with taxi operating less hours although gahmen issued enough taxi.

I wonder which city passengers wait for taxi and not taxi wait for passengers.

[arsenal168]

Had lunch with a few colleague, 2 of them r Ang Mo expatriate.

1 casual topic was about transport from KL-Singapore HSR to local taxi/Uber/Grab.

They brought out something that was interesting.

B4 Uber/Grab came to town, they called for taxis in the morning to work, after work, taxi to dinner/party or back home.

Now they call Uber. They claimed it is easier to get n
cheaper.

But the interesting part is, for sending their young kids to school in the morning(kids ride on their own), they call for a taxi, usually from Comfortdelgro.

Ask why?

They feel safer. The taxi drivers r older, more experienced n road savvy compared to alot young Uber drivers, some with a year driving experience.

For them as adults, they can take the higher risk riding with these "untrained" drivers. Afterall they can direct the driver if he/she is lost or driving recklessly.

But not for their young precious children.

Make sense.

[Hitman4896]

Now is time to sell car.Cause can choose from taxi, uber and grabcar. Its actually cheaper. lol.

Anyway, uber driver cannot earn la. Those who said can,are really bluffing themself. Ask them the work hours they put in, and deduct all actual costing. And you have the answer.

A simple math. Sengkang to Town, midnight take uber, cost only $12-$14. Deduct 20%, Deduct 20km fuel cost, left a petty $6-$8 profit. Don forget, wear and tear, breakdown etc osting not factor in. Lets say its for the long run.

[spluder101]

Any grabhitch or Uber pool users here? Can share how much they make ?

[metaldoor]

I was an Uber driver for 6 months. Not worth driving for Uber. I have switched to driving Citycab now and find it less stressful and take home more for the same hours of driving.

When I was with Uber, I was pulling in @ $9K gross monthly driving from 8.00am to 9.00pm every Mon-Sat. Sunday was my rest day. But after deductions for rental, petrol, fees, parking + miscellanous, my net take home is only @ $3K

I switched to driving a regular taxi for Citycab as a relief driver. My shift is everyday from 6.00am to 5.00pm. After all deductions I can still have take home @ $3.5-3.8K monthly.

Thanks for sharing

[metaldoor]

Tks tks..exactly what the Grab driver was telling me when he driving for uber. If the passenger dont tell the route the driver will act blur follow the gps.

Now Grab price is fixed so the driver follow gps no complain.

GPS is reliable, so follow

[metaldoor]

Any grabhitch or Uber pool users here? Can share how much they make ?

I guess sometimes also have to depend on luck

[sabokings]

Wow so many Grab clones here talking bad about Uber company :rolleyes:


I think Grab is desperately looking for new drivers instead of Uber :p


Drive for Grab, wait till you see the fare then come and tell me whether Uber is worst than Grab :D

[sabokings]

6k per mth is attainable if you work hard.

own car with 30% uber esso fleet card discount.
been driving uber/grab for the last 2mths.
1wk 6days. drive during peak hour about 9hrs a day.
average about 1 to 1.5k net profit per wk after deduction

i also bought a cheap civic and rent out to 2 relief driver. extra $800 passive income per mth

those who cannot earn $ usually is lazy or expensive car rental


how come you can buy CHEAP civic ? :eek::rolleyes:

Where huh, i also want to buy leh, cheap cheap civic leh :rolleyes:

[sabokings]

I just took Grab Share this morning.
Much cheaper than Grabcar unless not on rush.
The driver was formerly a Uber driver and told me he quit Uber after there was plenty of clients complain.
The complain was addressed by Uber officers in Singapore acting yaya and big shot with threats with termination.
So he just quit and switched to Grab and so far so good.
Driver told me recently many quit Uber and so the Uber officers started booking their Grab cars and giving benefits/incentives to them to return to drive for Uber.
However my driver this morning decided to stick to Grab after informing Uber that they sucks.

Anyone to share here.


Bro, how is your Grab business, old drivers from Grab all driving for Uber now thus Grab badly affected ? :p:D

[sabokings]

Now is time to sell car.Cause can choose from taxi, uber and grabcar. Its actually cheaper. lol.

Anyway, uber driver cannot earn la. Those who said can,are really bluffing themself. Ask them the work hours they put in, and deduct all actual costing. And you have the answer.

A simple math. Sengkang to Town, midnight take uber, cost only $12-$14. Deduct 20%, Deduct 20km fuel cost, left a petty $6-$8 profit. Don forget, wear and tear, breakdown etc osting not factor in. Lets say its for the long run.


Agree with you.

Grab is even lower, from Botanic garden to Lakepoint is $8 nia, from SengKang to town if Uber is $12-$14, Grab should be $8-$11 :mad:


Grab is slashing the fare till drivers cannot even make a decent earning thus coming to this forum and bad mouth Uber :mad:


Grab is desperately looking for new goondoo drivers, all their old bird already know their company's trick and have shifted to Uber becos Uber make slightly better earning then Grab.


Grab is thrash ! :mad:

[boyishluke]

yes, as long as not steal i think is fine.

[arsenal168]

Economy bleak.

Retrenchment on the rise

With Uber/Grab, government can easily claim 100,000+ jobs created.

Employment statistic can then look good.

[NewCause]

Economy bleak.

Retrenchment on the rise

With Uber/Grab, government can easily claim 100,000+ jobs created.

Employment statistic can then look good.

Don't trust employment statistic too much :D

[sadfa]

Economy bleak.

Retrenchment on the rise

With Uber/Grab, government can easily claim 100,000+ jobs created.

Employment statistic can then look good.

With this garbagement they can use their stats to claim 100% employment n spore is nation of entrepreneurs n world Peace .

If there's a proper media to scrutinise they'll discover entrepreneurs mean drive taxi, hawkers n selling things like blood online N illegal activities like bookies n pimping
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Exchange points use stats ma

[arsenal168]

With this garbagement they can use their stats to claim 100% employment n spore is nation of entrepreneurs n world Peace .

If there's a proper media to scrutinise they'll discover entrepreneurs mean drive taxi, hawkers n selling things like blood online N illegal activities like bookies n pimping
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Exchange points use stats ma

Maybe our government is at it's wits end in creating good or decent jobs for it's people.

Agree with you.

Grab is even lower, from Botanic garden to Lakepoint is $8 nia, from SengKang to town if Uber is $12-$14, Grab should be $8-$11 :mad:

Grab is thrash ! :mad:

Uber/Grab/Taxi all become cheap labour in competing for a shrinking pax market with the drop in tourists number n increasing MRT lines.

[arsenal168]

Seriously...?😂

We can brainwash samsters here with our comments n views on issues?

So easy are...?🤣

别逗了...😏

[iloveu4ever]

Been driving uber for ard 1 year...seen the changes..

I personally dont like to handle cash n prefer all cashless...but cash payment now takes up nearly half of all rides. So it may be good for biz...but troublesome.

I hate the fucking uberpool...its a fraud n ealot of people are now using uberpool cause its cheaper n high chance no need to share during certain timings like pass midnight or at certain locations. Its lower income for us n we have no option not to have uberpool. I hardly pick up other passengers with uberpool n its onky when we reach destination thenwe know its uberpool. Last night...pass midnight i fetch from suntec to sembangwan...more than 20km...by uberpool...fare only ard 13plus after minus uber fee....fucking joke. I am now earning less with this function.

Next, uber helpline also fucked up. Told them i got passenger steal money n report case...called n email several times n more than 1 week later...still no follow up from anyone.

[iloveu4ever]

Read a piece of news in the Chinese daily 新明日报2 days ago. This family booked a Uber car to travel from Queenstown area to Marina Cruise Centre. They r going for a cruise holiday. It was supposed to be a 20 mins journey. End up the lady driver took the wrong route n the journey became 45 mins. They were late n could not board the ship. The family went Uber office to complain n demand compensation of the cruise fee amounting to $2000+. Uber front desk shoo them away, saying it is the driver's problem. The driver is just a partner, not employer of Uber. This family damn suay...now how to get compensation?

Family fault....25 mins difference n cannot board....shld have ft earlier n cruise usually allows u to check in nuch earlier.

[Bermmet]

If Singaporean don't trust the PAP govt then who can be trusted next ??? :rolleyes:


To trust clones like you all from the foreign media industries and oppo camps going online 24/7 365 days brainwashing ppl and destroying our well organized country ??? :D

Very true, under PAP we became a very well organized CUNTRY :D

[arsenal168]

Been driving uber for ard 1 year...seen the changes..

I personally dont like to handle cash n prefer all cashless...but cash payment now takes up nearly half of all rides. So it may be good for biz...but troublesome.

I hate the fucking uberpool...its a fraud n ealot of people are now using uberpool cause its cheaper n high chance no need to share during certain timings like pass midnight or at certain locations. Its lower income for us n we have no option not to have uberpool. I hardly pick up other passengers with uberpool n its onky when we reach destination thenwe know its uberpool. Last night...pass midnight i fetch from suntec to sembangwan...more than 20km...by uberpool...fare only ard 13plus after minus uber fee....fucking joke. I am now earning less with this function.

Next, uber helpline also fucked up. Told them i got passenger steal money n report case...called n email several times n more than 1 week later...still no follow up from anyone.

Dun be their cheap labour bro. U r at their mercy cos they can cut/change the incentives from time to time.

Try looking for a more stable n better paying job.

A very simple logic.
If really can earn $6000 per month,
1. Do they need to advertise so agressive? Word of mouth spread would have formed queues at their offices for new drivers signup.
2. Do they need to offer all sorts of rewards and incentives?
3. All delivery drivers who knows how to use smartphones will sign up.

Sadly, this 2 are the biggest scams. Setting low fares that drivers can't earn. Most rely on incentives but these are being cut lower and harder to achieve.
Rental companies also suck thd blood of drivers with higher rentals and unreasonable demands when vehicle returned.

[arsenal168]

Yahoo News:

A couple with toddler broke a Grab car's wind shield wiper after driver refused to fetch them cos he doesn't have a toddler car seat.

Quote: {Land Transport Authority rules require all children under the height of 1.35m travelling in private vehicles, including private-hire cars, to use child safety restraints. Taxis are exempt from this requirement.

“Grab recommends all passengers to bring their own child safety restraints but also understand that there are times when they do not have a child safety restraint on hand. At such times, passengers can use our GrabTaxi service,” added the spokesman.}

This driver followed LTA's rigid law.

Grab's spokesman asked pax to bring own child seat!

Wtf?! 🤡

[arsenal168]

Either LTA change this rigid law or Uber/Grab dictate that all their drivers must have child seats in their vehicles to cater to pax with toddlers.

LTA should explain why Taxis are exempted while Uber/Grab have to follow this law.

Imagine yourself carrying a child seat around in a shopping centre etc? Make no sense.

I bet a lot of Uber/Grab driver ignore this law. If not they lose easily 20-30% business. Offend pax some more.

[submachine]

Taxi drivers, if hardworking, also not too bad one.

A cab driver once showed me his income for the month, around $7k!

[ailestriker]

Yahoo News:

A couple with toddler broke a Grab car's wind shield wiper after driver refused to fetch them cos he doesn't have a toddler car seat.

Quote: {Land Transport Authority rules require all children under the height of 1.35m travelling in private vehicles, including private-hire cars, to use child safety restraints. Taxis are exempt from this requirement.

“Grab recommends all passengers to bring their own child safety restraints but also understand that there are times when they do not have a child safety restraint on hand. At such times, passengers can use our GrabTaxi service,” added the spokesman.}

This driver followed LTA's rigid law.

Grab's spokesman asked pax to bring own child seat!

Wtf?! 🤡

the driver just following the law ba. if he tio caught, he's the one gonna pay for it. better be safe than sorry.

[veneze]

Cab driver more relax leh. my house kopi shop got all the taxi uncles at night playin cards and gambling. Thats how relaxed they are.

You are better off retired as taxi driver, at least you pay diesel money, rental now cheaper due to the Transcab losing drivers and also u can take any customer.

If customer zhao cab, u lock the door drive him to police station. He threaten to hurt u, u just bang the taxi at high speed, make sure u two tong gui yi jing. At least taxi damage cheaper to pay than rental car or expensive car.

Either way, cabby drivers got more ways to earn money, just not as convenient to get customers.

[sadfa]

Yahoo News:

A couple with toddler broke a Grab car's wind shield wiper after driver refused to fetch them cos he doesn't have a toddler car seat.

Quote: {Land Transport Authority rules require all children under the height of 1.35m travelling in private vehicles, including private-hire cars, to use child safety restraints. Taxis are exempt from this requirement.

“Grab recommends all passengers to bring their own child safety restraints but also understand that there are times when they do not have a child safety restraint on hand. At such times, passengers can use our GrabTaxi service,” added the spokesman.}

This driver followed LTA's rigid law.

Grab's spokesman asked pax to bring own child seat!

Wtf?! 🤡


Driver should report police .
that wan is call vandalism .
Got caning one
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Don't exchange points caning ma

[sadfa]

Cab driver more relax leh. my house kopi shop got all the taxi uncles at night playin cards and gambling. Thats how relaxed they are.

You are better off retired as taxi driver, at least you pay diesel money, rental now cheaper due to the Transcab losing drivers and also u can take any customer.

If customer zhao cab, u lock the door drive him to police station. He threaten to hurt u, u just bang the taxi at high speed, make sure u two tong gui yi jing. At least taxi damage cheaper to pay than rental car or expensive car.

Either way, cabby drivers got more ways to earn money, just not as convenient to get customers.

Very common la.

Many cabbies like this especially night shift.

They kaopeh no business but instead of cruising looking for business, they hang around to tcss. Only thing they don't do is drink

Most won't net 3k a month n kaopeh but don't work to earn more

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Exchange points contradict ma

[arsenal168]

Mr clone arsenal168, are you done with your nonsense tirade ??? :mad:

Trying to destroy our country again by asking LTA to remove rigid safety laws ??? :mad:


Usually i won't bother to respond to idiotic comments with no substance.

But since i m sipping my hot coffee n quite free now, shall entertain u a bit.

If you r a naive, hot blooded syt, i forgive u😜

If you r a childish old fart, then fuck off😏

My view on a stupid LTA law in your opinion will destroy my country. Well...guess i should repent then.

In parallel comparison, by your standard, MPs Palmer & David Ong should give up their citizenships n leave the country for giving the government a bad name?😵

But i won't demand that nor give them names cos i m a logical, mature adult unlike u😎

[adonis]

UBER worldwide has made millions of dollars of losses. This was reported in the newspapers a few days ago.

[Fookyou]

Uber or grab IMO is more for retirement.. it's not a stable full time job as gov law or company policy might change anytime and the time invested is gone..

For retirement.. say u earn $400 (nett) per week it's good enough? Only do peak hours say total 4 hrs a day for 6 days a week?

Just my 2 cents..

[Archerguard]

Taxi drivers, if hardworking, also not too bad one.

A cab driver once showed me his income for the month, around $7k!

yes i agree..

a cab driver once showed me his income for the day, explaining in detail after minus this minus that.. profit over $200.. :)

[moscato]

taxi driving is not an easy career. Don't be naive

Sharin my perspertive from my dad who drove 20 years of taxi

grab drivers - $1500 a month

less than 1 year taxi driver - lose money

more than 1 year experience - $1500 - $1800 8 hrs shift

more than 10 years (like my dad) - $3000, good months like christmas $4000

very very chiong and very experienced - $5000 (but must take into account of $2000 forfeit everytime you get into serious accident)

[kkevinn6]

I once talked to a taxi uncle and was told that being Uber/Grab driver exclusively is much harder than a licensed one. Main thing being that Uber/Grab drivers can't pick up passengers from taxi stands and roadside. So they have to take bookings only. And that will take place mainly only during peak hours or some really ulu places. It's not so rosy as painted by some high earners, which are more exceptions than the norm.
True. Very hard to earn as a uber/grab driver

[clubviivaa]

I drive a toyota camry and i did some calculation before as i am trying to offset the cost of my car by working additional load.

However it seems very hard to break even. Have to factor in wear and tear, insurance, possible accidents and also the fact that you cannot solicit for customers on the streets. So this is non workable for most of us actually. Besides, this marketplace is getting increasingly crowded with the bad economy no no point trying at all:rolleyes:

[goodheart]

I drive a toyota camry and i did some calculation before as i am trying to offset the cost of my car by working additional load.

However it seems very hard to break even. Have to factor in wear and tear, insurance, possible accidents and also the fact that you cannot solicit for customers on the streets. So this is non workable for most of us actually. Besides, this marketplace is getting increasingly crowded with the bad economy no no point trying at all:rolleyes:

Heard the market very bad. Many taxis reported dropped or no clients.

[coldliar]

Heard the market very bad. Many taxis reported dropped or no clients.

Heard that too.

[hellboy24]

Hi bros,
I used to drive taxi for about almost 3 years. 1st month net profit 3k. Hours put in 6pm to 2am for monday to thursday 8hrs. Friday n saturday 6pm to 3am 9hrs.every month profit increase working hours i cut down to 7 hrs from mon to thurs. Started to take saturday off n worked friday n sunday averaging 8 hrs.after first 3 months my average profit till i stoped driving was 4.5k, max i hit 5k for 6 months.

Taxi driving can earn money, its not about just hardwork. You must use booking apps, know where traffic jams are , flights arrive what time (instead waiting in q for 90 mins n make noise if passeger say go pasir ris n tampines lol), dnt pick destination and mode of payment, find out what time shift ends in certain industrail or biz park etc etc.

With all this info, you can make at least 4k net profit per month after about first 3 months of driving. I was a relief driver and e only other taxi driver i know was my hirer if u guys cn get my drift.

Its good if you can get regular customers,so you can ardy look for an advance booking on ur app. I used to have a regular, puggol to tuas b4 i reach tuas 95% i got an advance booking from tuas to city.

Luck plays a part too. U can be in orchard with so many ppl but no wants a cab, u cn b in lim chu kang and a worker from e dorm nearby cn flag your cab go mbs lol

Just my 2 cents worth.

Ps always remb to take 10 to 15min break after max 2 hour driving.if not zombie.

[zaplamparlarzap]

Either LTA change this rigid law or Uber/Grab dictate that all their drivers must have child seats in their vehicles to cater to pax with toddlers.

LTA should explain why Taxis are exempted while Uber/Grab have to follow this law.

Imagine yourself carrying a child seat around in a shopping centre etc? Make no sense.

I bet a lot of Uber/Grab driver ignore this law. If not they lose easily 20-30% business. Offend pax some more.



You the bloody clone sabo king always hiding behind the tortoise shell from the foreign media industry 24/7 365 days stirring shit trying to create chaos for Singaporean !!! :mad:

You want LTA to explain, explain my lampar you want ??? :mad:

[zaplamparlarzap]

Yahoo News:

A couple with toddler broke a Grab car's wind shield wiper after driver refused to fetch them cos he doesn't have a toddler car seat.



Very true, under PAP we became a very well organized CUNTRY :D

Spot on bloody clone !!! :D

Now trying to promote your foreign trash News site ??? :mad:

Its all trash, rubbish and waste from this trash News site !!! :D

[zaplamparlarzap]

Economy bleak.

Retrenchment on the rise

With Uber/Grab, government can easily claim 100,000+ jobs created.

Employment statistic can then look good.


50 yrs of hard work to build the trust between the govt and its nation, do you think the govt so stupid to lie to the public just becos of this stupiak statistics ??? :rolleyes:


Try harder next time you bloody clone from the foreign media industry trying to brain wash Singaporean !!! :mad:

[zaplamparlarzap]

Don't trust employment statistic too much :D


Yes, trust only the clone from the foreign media industry, they can always stir fresh new shit to keep the readers on the edge !!! :D

[Pornsuck]

Hi bros,
I used to drive taxi for about almost 3 years. 1st month net profit 3k. Hours put in 6pm to 2am for monday to thursday 8hrs. Friday n saturday 6pm to 3am 9hrs.every month profit increase working hours i cut down to 7 hrs from mon to thurs. Started to take saturday off n worked friday n sunday averaging 8 hrs.after first 3 months my average profit till i stoped driving was 4.5k, max i hit 5k for 6 months.

Taxi driving can earn money, its not about just hardwork. You must use booking apps, know where traffic jams are , flights arrive what time (instead waiting in q for 90 mins n make noise if passeger say go pasir ris n tampines lol), dnt pick destination and mode of payment, find out what time shift ends in certain industrail or biz park etc etc.

With all this info, you can make at least 4k net profit per month after about first 3 months of driving. I was a relief driver and e only other taxi driver i know was my hirer if u guys cn get my drift.

Its good if you can get regular customers,so you can ardy look for an advance booking on ur app. I used to have a regular, puggol to tuas b4 i reach tuas 95% i got an advance booking from tuas to city.

Luck plays a part too. U can be in orchard with so many ppl but no wants a cab, u cn b in lim chu kang and a worker from e dorm nearby cn flag your cab go mbs lol

Just my 2 cents worth.

Ps always remb to take 10 to 15min break after max 2 hour driving.if not zombie.

Nice sharing bro :)

[MoeLanYong]

Uber owes $20m for greatly exaggerating how much its drivers really make

Https://sg.news.yahoo.com/uber-owes-20-million-greatly-170506312.html

[sadfa]

Uber owes $20m for greatly exaggerating how much its drivers really make

Https://sg.news.yahoo.com/uber-owes-20-million-greatly-170506312.html

Ya. Lied to drivers to get them to join by saying how much money they can make n how cheap rentals are. I wonder wat does that say about drivers who encourage others to join.
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Exchange points also bs ma

[curious11]

yea i just got approached at inspection centre one lady recruiting new uber drivers said can earn on average $20/hr for a min of 4 hours drive daily...

credible...?

[sadfa]

yea i just got approached at inspection centre one lady recruiting new uber drivers said can earn on average $20/hr for a min of 4 hours drive daily...

credible...?

She just wants u to sign up probably cos she'll earn commission.

After u sign, she'll feed u the classic line. How much u earn depends on how hard u work
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Exchange points got commission ma

[hotguy2468]

Ya. Lied to drivers to get them to join by saying how much money they can make n how cheap rentals are. I wonder wat does that say about drivers who encourage others to join.
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Exchange points also bs ma

Its like MLM pyramid. I get $200 for every driver that I recommend and if he recommends another driver B then I also get another $100 and if driver B pulls in another driver then I earn another $100. So far I have earned $1000 from these recommendations although I have only recommended 2 of my friends.

[mutenka]

Not worthwhile to do it

[FattycatDolly]

Not worthwhile to do it

Think so too

[spluder101]

http://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi/uber-cab-driver-arrested-for-molesting-palam-airport-manager/story-ptXd6sJf2tR8BUysk3WzhJ.html

[HC NEWBIRD]

In any profession there will be Top earners as well as those who are struggling.

@

[kkevinn6]

Hi bros,
I used to drive taxi for about almost 3 years. 1st month net profit 3k. Hours put in 6pm to 2am for monday to thursday 8hrs. Friday n saturday 6pm to 3am 9hrs.every month profit increase working hours i cut down to 7 hrs from mon to thurs. Started to take saturday off n worked friday n sunday averaging 8 hrs.after first 3 months my average profit till i stoped driving was 4.5k, max i hit 5k for 6 months.

Taxi driving can earn money, its not about just hardwork. You must use booking apps, know where traffic jams are , flights arrive what time (instead waiting in q for 90 mins n make noise if passeger say go pasir ris n tampines lol), dnt pick destination and mode of payment, find out what time shift ends in certain industrail or biz park etc etc.

With all this info, you can make at least 4k net profit per month after about first 3 months of driving. I was a relief driver and e only other taxi driver i know was my hirer if u guys cn get my drift.

Its good if you can get regular customers,so you can ardy look for an advance booking on ur app. I used to have a regular, puggol to tuas b4 i reach tuas 95% i got an advance booking from tuas to city.

Luck plays a part too. U can be in orchard with so many ppl but no wants a cab, u cn b in lim chu kang and a worker from e dorm nearby cn flag your cab go mbs lol

Just my 2 cents worth.

Ps always remb to take 10 to 15min break after max 2 hour driving.if not zombie.
thanks for sharing

[Summerhillt]

I tell you all lah, uber grab all these is cannot earn money one. Part time? Don't even think about it. I drive both, i tell you ube without surge is waste of time don't bother. Grab is the better one, why? Because the incentives sibeh chor. U hit max both off peak and peak is $1240 for me. That is like $1k close to cash.

You all now think $1k cash sibeh song hor? Sorry hor, you know this means what? EVERY FUCKING MORNING, 7am i iniside car grind till 10am. Popi got at least 5 customers.. than drive again until 5pm till 8pm popi another 5 pax at least..

last time we do no grabshare.. sibeh xiong.. jitao wanna hit target is drive like siao lang.
You all know how xiong anot? 5 to 8 pm is the worst i tell u all.. knn nbcb.. sg traffic fucking everyday jam.. until now i know where sure jam liao..

sibeh sian one.. everyday u drive like zombie.. than petrol is $60 a day. dont tell what save fuel car all these lah, all is lanjiao wei. u wanna hit max incentives u must drive at least 15hours a day. No joke. Not joking.

Yes 15 hours a day u commit. You know how much cash u can take back? Aprox 1.6k they will credit to ur account. Than u havent add ur cash earnings lah.. maybe another 200-300.. so ya 1 week is around 1.8k to 1.9k.. you sibeh song right? petrol leh? rent leh? thats like close to 700 - 800.. you max take home 1k nia lah.. if u heng maybe 1.2k lor..

kor kor me been there done that liao.. i got chiong before like crazy siao lang.. 17 hours a day.. sometimes even 28 hours.. i drive until you know what.. i see the expressway the trees waving to me.. than i can drive first lane straight road fall asleep at 100kmph ..

you see how dangerous? really that period i don't want life just want money. really i can after deduct everything earn 5 to 6 k a month inside bank hot hot. but what i lost out is family and friends time. ok maybe dun really care about family or frens time.. money impt right.. but u will end up with a fucking sore back.. now my back still hurts like siao... maybe perma damage liao..

oh ya 17 hours on road.. i dont even go down and pee or eat.. i got a container inside the car.. and i buy gardenia bread put inside the car before i start to drive.. i bring alone 3x 1.5liter water bottle ... this is really siao on chiong mode..

i can 1 person chiong uber new start 100 rides got 1k mah.. i 2.5 days finish, until uber the app prompt me u drive too long liao..

ya i also got kena accident before.. too sleepy jitao rambat one conti car.. the conti car jitao become pohpiah..

this is the fun part i tell u all. when sign contract, say excess if anything i langkar is pay 2k mah.. ccb i langkar liao than u know what happen when i go down garage. the owner of car alibaba me than show me ntuc income contract, if u under 27 years old. the excess is $3000.

pcb, suddenly $1k more. nbcb, i jitao du lan tell them no money, u beh kay yann come sue me. than they allow me slowly pay. than i every month clear them $500.

haiz grab and uber.. really is can earn. but can u eh tahan anot? i 4 months got 23k deposit into my bank.. but deduct this and that.. i left what lol...

health important.. but i still sibeh pia mia.. i fetch before dog cat indian chinese korean philpines indon ang moh latina,thai,viets, smlj country also have.

i pick up prostitute before also.. now they high tech ask me go geylang fetch the girls go customer house.. jitao the okt never appear.. best part u know is what.. the girls come to my cars under the escort of bangalas.. u see how grab help whoring to a new level LOL

[sadfa]

I tell you all lah, uber grab all these is

i pick up prostitute before also.. now they high tech ask me go geylang fetch the girls go customer house.. jitao the okt never appear.. best part u know is what.. the girls come to my cars under the escort of bangalas.. u see how grab help whoring to a new level LOL

Your post very difficult to read

U be mafu isn't that big a deal.
Cos in overseas countries, they use uber to deliver drugs. So u given a bag to deliver to point B. If its a set up, u kanna shit from police. Spore is famous for being fucked up. Got no chance wan. So u will get it for trafficking

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EXCHANGE POINTS blessings ma

[fallen69angel]

I tell you all lah, uber grab all these is cannot earn money one. Part time? Don't even think about it. I drive both, i tell you ube without surge is waste of time don't bother. Grab is the better one, why? Because the incentives sibeh chor. U hit max both off peak and peak is $1240 for me. That is like $1k close to cash.

You all now think $1k cash sibeh song hor? Sorry hor, you know this means what? EVERY FUCKING MORNING, 7am i iniside car grind till 10am. Popi got at least 5 customers.. than drive again until 5pm till 8pm popi another 5 pax at least..

last time we do no grabshare.. sibeh xiong.. jitao wanna hit target is drive like siao lang.
You all know how xiong anot? 5 to 8 pm is the worst i tell u all.. knn nbcb.. sg traffic fucking everyday jam.. until now i know where sure jam liao..

sibeh sian one.. everyday u drive like zombie.. than petrol is $60 a day. dont tell what save fuel car all these lah, all is lanjiao wei. u wanna hit max incentives u must drive at least 15hours a day. No joke. Not joking.

Yes 15 hours a day u commit. You know how much cash u can take back? Aprox 1.6k they will credit to ur account. Than u havent add ur cash earnings lah.. maybe another 200-300.. so ya 1 week is around 1.8k to 1.9k.. you sibeh song right? petrol leh? rent leh? thats like close to 700 - 800.. you max take home 1k nia lah.. if u heng maybe 1.2k lor..

kor kor me been there done that liao.. i got chiong before like crazy siao lang.. 17 hours a day.. sometimes even 28 hours.. i drive until you know what.. i see the expressway the trees waving to me.. than i can drive first lane straight road fall asleep at 100kmph ..

you see how dangerous? really that period i don't want life just want money. really i can after deduct everything earn 5 to 6 k a month inside bank hot hot. but what i lost out is family and friends time. ok maybe dun really care about family or frens time.. money impt right.. but u will end up with a fucking sore back.. now my back still hurts like siao... maybe perma damage liao..

oh ya 17 hours on road.. i dont even go down and pee or eat.. i got a container inside the car.. and i buy gardenia bread put inside the car before i start to drive.. i bring alone 3x 1.5liter water bottle ... this is really siao on chiong mode..

i can 1 person chiong uber new start 100 rides got 1k mah.. i 2.5 days finish, until uber the app prompt me u drive too long liao..

ya i also got kena accident before.. too sleepy jitao rambat one conti car.. the conti car jitao become pohpiah..

this is the fun part i tell u all. when sign contract, say excess if anything i langkar is pay 2k mah.. ccb i langkar liao than u know what happen when i go down garage. the owner of car alibaba me than show me ntuc income contract, if u under 27 years old. the excess is $3000.

pcb, suddenly $1k more. nbcb, i jitao du lan tell them no money, u beh kay yann come sue me. than they allow me slowly pay. than i every month clear them $500.

haiz grab and uber.. really is can earn. but can u eh tahan anot? i 4 months got 23k deposit into my bank.. but deduct this and that.. i left what lol...

health important.. but i still sibeh pia mia.. i fetch before dog cat indian chinese korean philpines indon ang moh latina,thai,viets, smlj country also have.

i pick up prostitute before also.. now they high tech ask me go geylang fetch the girls go customer house.. jitao the okt never appear.. best part u know is what.. the girls come to my cars under the escort of bangalas.. u see how grab help whoring to a new level LOL

Health and time is important bro.

[Summerhillt]

Your post very difficult to read

U be mafu isn't that big a deal.
Cos in overseas countries, they use uber to deliver drugs. So u given a bag to deliver to point B. If its a set up, u kanna shit from police. Spore is famous for being fucked up. Got no chance wan. So u will get it for trafficking

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EXCHANGE POINTS blessings ma

delieve drug is wtf lol, got 1 time i pick up a call.. go downstairs liao.. the abang bring out 30 pkt of nasi brayni.. he ask me send to a address.. nobody come up the car lol.. he still give me 1 packet for free to eat.. hahaha

[CouldBeHer]

In any profession there will be Top earners as well as those who are struggling.

@


Only in 1 profession there won't be strugglers - Sg politicians :D

[Tong75]

Only in 1 profession there won't be strugglers - Sg politicians :D

LOL this is fucking true :D

[itguy2008]

LOL this is fucking true :D

Actually I have doubt if it is true or not. Can they offer me a 3-months contract as a temp so that we can experience it first hand? hahaha.

[Rickytaytay]

Actually I have doubt if it is true or not. Can they offer me a 3-months contract as a temp so that we can experience it first hand? hahaha.

Yes u can have 3 month contract driving mandatory car at 67 a day

[SexRocs]

Yes u can have 3 month contract driving mandatory car at 67 a day

A day is 8, 12 or 24 hours?

[CreamyPuff]

Yes u can have 3 month contract driving mandatory car at 67 a day

Never knew that

[AutoLight]

Never knew that

Never knew that too

[dongpeisem]

driverless cars coming under the test

aren't you afraid of being phased out working as driver?

[RedhotPepper]

driverless cars coming under the test

aren't you afraid of being phased out working as driver?

You also said it, they're "under the test" :D

[hotguy2468]

delieve drug is wtf lol, got 1 time i pick up a call.. go downstairs liao.. the abang bring out 30 pkt of nasi brayni.. he ask me send to a address.. nobody come up the car lol.. he still give me 1 packet for free to eat.. hahaha

You should have collected extra $30 from him. I always do if kenna this type of customer. They treat me like a courier/delivery service so I charge them courier fee.

[hotguy2468]

A day is 8, 12 or 24 hours?

It's 24 / 7 and you will be practically living in your vehicle. :D

[Republicant]

You should have collected extra $30 from him. I always do if kenna this type of customer. They treat me like a courier/delivery service so I charge them courier fee.

Instead of delivering to the address, can sell the branyi elsewhere :D

[hotguy2468]

Instead of delivering to the address, can sell the branyi elsewhere :D

Then you kenna for illegal hawking :D

Now cctv everywhere that even the NEA has gone hi-tech. They rarely come in vans with the Cisco policeman to catch illegal hawkers nowadays. You go and do illegal hawking and if the area is covered by cctv.... soon you will receive a notice to appear for investigation by registered mail. At the office they will show you the evidence from the cctv and offer you composition fine if you plead guilty or be charge in court if you deny any offence. :D

Want to earn a living also sibeh jialat now.

[grabuber]

See my nick grab and uber.

[Floater630]

See my nick grab and uber.

What is there to see? Unless you have a pussy

[arsenal168]

Was at Vivo City yesterday evening with a friend. Really crowded & drizzling.

My friend tried to use Grab Share to get a ride to Toa Payoh.

He was shocked to see the fare quoted: $40!

In the end he got a ComfortDelGro taxi under flat fare booking for $19.50.

Daylight robbery!

Wonder if the Neighbour hood shop selling umbrella 🌂 for $5 can immediately jack up the price to $10 if it starts to rain?

CASE will come after the shop owner and summon him for profiteering!

But Uber & Grab special. Got government's approval & blessing!

Maybe because Ho Ching's Temasek Holding got shares/ investment in them. That's why...

[Grounded Eagle]

Wonder if the Neighbour hood shop selling umbrella 🌂 for $5 can immediately jack up the price to $10 if it starts to rain? ..

Yes it is common practice amongst the shops here.... :)

[sadfa]

Was at Vivo City yesterday evening with a friend. Really crowded & drizzling.

My friend tried to use Grab Share to get a ride to Toa Payoh.

He was shocked to see the fare quoted: $40!

In the end he got a ComfortDelGro taxi under flat fare booking for $19.50.

Daylight robbery!

Wonder if the Neighbour hood shop selling umbrella 🌂 for $5 can immediately jack up the price to $10 if it starts to rain?

CASE will come after the shop owner and summon him for profiteering!

But Uber & Grab special. Got government's approval & blessing!

Maybe because Ho Ching's Temasek Holding got shares/ investment in them. That's why...

Speechless!!!!

Wtf!! How u can say cos temasek got shares so they let foreign companies fleece sporeans .
U mean they let their profits mean more than sporeans!!!
Thats like saying old man doesn't love sporeans!!!
LOVE!!!!


u know how I know?
Cos garbagement introducing surge pricing for taxis soon.

Don't say toa payoh LA.
Next time From vivo to sentosa during raining will b 70.

PTC will say not happy don't pay lo.
No one force u wat
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Exchange points will surge ma

[arsenal168]

Cos garbagement introducing surge pricing for taxis soon.

Don't say toa payoh LA.
Next time From vivo to sentosa during raining will b 70.

PTC will say not happy don't pay lo.
No one force u wat
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Exchange points will surge ma

Seriously!!

What the fuck is happening to Singapore public transportation???

This government going hay wire😠😠😠

[sadfa]

Seriously!!

What the fuck is happening to Singapore public transportation???

This government going hay wire😠😠😠

Transport in spore shambles LA.

Even changi also can have fire.

And xi DA DA trillion dollar one band one road , spore not in it.

Kra will finally b built like Suez n Panama canal.

Definitely China will tell their shippers to use those roads n ports. Cos no way spend billions n even own ppl don't use.

Very soon PSA n nol will die n all the foreign companies will shift out. Even changi also finish

Of cos spore can do nothing BT talk cock to stupid sporeans n cb khaW will sure b elected again n he'll talk his usual cock including insulting sporeans. When hes overseas of cos.
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Exchange points shambles ma

[arsenal168]

老李禁赌场，小李开赌场。

老李抓霸王车，小李开放霸王车。

老李公开赞习近平，小李和习近平交恶。

看来是朽木不可雕。

唉....

Singapore future bleak bleak.

[strikeback4]

Was at Vivo City yesterday evening with a friend. Really crowded & drizzling.

My friend tried to use Grab Share to get a ride to Toa Payoh.

He was shocked to see the fare quoted: $40!

In the end he got a ComfortDelGro taxi under flat fare booking for $19.50.

Daylight robbery!

Wonder if the Neighbour hood shop selling umbrella 🌂 for $5 can immediately jack up the price to $10 if it starts to rain?

CASE will come after the shop owner and summon him for profiteering!

But Uber & Grab special. Got government's approval & blessing!

Maybe because Ho Ching's Temasek Holding got shares/ investment in them. That's why...

Grab Share is open to both Car and Taxi, during peak hr Grab Car surcharge will be higher than Taxi which will push up Grabshare and JustGrab rides

But non peak hr they are definitely cheaper than Taxi and with Grab being so aggressively on their Promo deducting $5 off for 1 ride a day... its definitely cheaper

[Benson Cheng]

Uber/ Grab got 68,000 cars. Taxi itself is 26,000 taxi.
So total is 94,000 cars/taxi. It is way above the total of the requirement. Sometime when you click Jurong to Toa Payoh is only $2-$4 only.
So if they increase the price don't click and wait for taxi. It is a Supply and Demand theory. If no demand the price will eventually same or lower than the Taxi price. If everybody don't rush home and wait. The Uber/ Grab price will eventually drop. There is no peak hours , it is only supply and demand requirement. If people understand the theory , they will end up taking a bus back home. After a few months, they will change their price again.Let wait and see if everybody cooperative.

[arsenal168]

Dear Bros/Sisters driving PHV, be careful. Heard the taxi companies & LTA collaborating.

"Dear Cabby If you see any PHV picks up inside LTA taxi stand / bay or illegal pick up anywhere else. You may whatsApp us @ 87775289 with the Photo, CLEAR veh no., Date, Time, Place. We will help forward to LTA. Pls note: you may be required to sign an undertaking form and may have to appear in Court to give evidence, if required. TQ."

[strikeback4]

Dear Bros/Sisters driving PHV, be careful. Heard the taxi companies & LTA collaborating.

"Dear Cabby If you see any PHV picks up inside LTA taxi stand / bay or illegal pick up anywhere else. You may whatsApp us @ 87775289 with the Photo, CLEAR veh no., Date, Time, Place. We will help forward to LTA. Pls note: you may be required to sign an undertaking form and may have to appear in Court to give evidence, if required. TQ."

LOL like that also can to target PHV :rolleyes:

[Toastpad]

Dear Bros/Sisters driving PHV, be careful. Heard the taxi companies & LTA collaborating.

"Dear Cabby If you see any PHV picks up inside LTA taxi stand / bay or illegal pick up anywhere else. You may whatsApp us @ 87775289 with the Photo, CLEAR veh no., Date, Time, Place. We will help forward to LTA. Pls note: you may be required to sign an undertaking form and may have to appear in Court to give evidence, if required. TQ."

Taxi companies losing business, getting desperate :D

[jacky43]

SANTA CLARA, USA — Singapore could be the first country in the world to get a widespread transport service made up entirely of self-driving cars.

That’s the view of Glen De Vos, the chief technology officer of Delphi Corporation, a major automotive supplier that is working to launch just such a robot taxi business here.

Delphi already has one self-driving car on the road here, and will introduce two more this month to gather more data as it prepares to operate an on-demand taxi service minus taxi drivers.

The company has been working with the Land Transport Authority since August last year on an autonomous taxi trial. The project is designed to figure out what is needed on the infrastructure side — in terms of the road network, data centres and so on — to make robot cabs viable here.

If all goes to plan, by 2020 you should be able to summon a driverless car with your smartphone to take you wherever you want.
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I asked a Taxi driver if driverless cab come true in 30 yrs time, will he lost his biz? He was fast with a typical kind soul local man. He said dont bother because he might pass on, if not retired by then.

Being trained by this good website I had this to share with him. 30 yrs ago his seniors has taken care of him, probably teach him the trade in driving taxi. His mentors do concern of him wish his biz can pass down to the next generation.

While this taxi driver dont care of his next generation. Next generation drivers has hard lifes not his biz. He was running away from the problem. That is as good as being screw every 4 yrs knowing things getting more expensives. Still believe and in the same time cheating ourself, actually nothing can be done. This country belongs to them.

He knew he was wrong. I will appreciate he pass the message to other drivers. Of course being a local he will forget and blame heaven for his mistakes. Side track my friends. The pen is powerful because the X we mark can change our future into a good one. Where we are not afraid of our employers who threaten to replace us with machines.

A colleague has this to say. Triump is not wrong in forcing FTs to leave and, return the power to employee. Remember this my friends.

[arsenal168]

Not sure how the driverless taxis will help to improve our daily lives.

We need machines to help lighten human work load, or to resolve manpower shortage or to improve efficiency or all of the above.

Current taxis have no above-mentioned problems.

So why the fuck is there a need to introduce driverless taxi?

A past incident came to mind.

On 1 of the days, I had a flight to catch at 8pm out of Singapore for a work trip.

But then there was an urgent meeting that was called & I had to attend.

The meeting took quite awhile.

The office admin helped call a cab for me.

I was running late for my flight.

Guess I was lucky to get a helpful taxi uncle who stepped on the gas for me. I was impressed with his driving skill, how he steadfastly weaved in & out of the evening ECP traffic.

I got on my flight in time😆

In future, bear with the driverless taxis 90km/hr speed. If u r rushing for a flight, be prepared to miss your flight😂

[newyorker88]

Don't you know that the government is now testing out driverless taxis ?

I think it is buses, not taxis. IMHO, cannot make it for cars. Computers lack the reflex of a human n traffic conditions are interactions between humans, now u try to make a program that can interact w humans? On the road? I don't see any possibility yet. Humans interaction with each other so complicated already, u don't need to add in a machine to the chaos on the roads

[Dolberg]

老李禁赌场，小李开赌场。

老李抓霸王车，小李开放霸王车。

老李公开赞习近平，小李和习近平交恶。

看来是朽木不可雕。

唉....

Singapore future bleak bleak.

Agreed.... 前途无亮

[arsenal168]

https://youtu.be/KHEpV-6deTYOk

[arsenal168]

Trying to pick up tourists? Really?

[Ayamay]

Agreed.... 前途无亮

Hahaa good one! :D

[arsenal168]

I think it is buses, not taxis. IMHO, cannot make it for cars. Computers lack the reflex of a human n traffic conditions are interactions between humans, now u try to make a program that can interact w humans? On the road? I don't see any possibility yet. Humans interaction with each other so complicated already, u don't need to add in a machine to the chaos on the roads

Agreed maybe driverless for bus is feasible.

After all buses have fixed routes.

[arsenal168]

[Human taxi driver vs Driverless taxi]

Call booking, from Point A to Point B.

Scenario 1:

Uncle: Mr xx, to AXA Tower?
Pax: Yes Uncle, but can u stop at a nearby ATM? I need to withdraw some cash.
Uncle: Sure.

AI: Mr xx, destination AXA Tower.
Pax: Yes, but can u stop at a nearby ATM? I need to withdraw some cash.
AI: ......Destination AXA Tower.
Pax: WTF!

Senario 2
Uncle: Mr xx, to Boat Quay?
Pax: Yes Uncle, but can u stop at a nearby petrol kiosk? I need to use the toilet.
Uncle: Sure.

AI: Mr xx, destination Boat Quay.
Pax: Yes, but can u stop at a nearby petrol kiosk. I need to use the toilet. Urgent!
AI: ......Destination Boat Quay.
Pax: WTF!!

😆🤣😂

[arsenal168]

An honorable member of the Coffee Shop Has Just Posted the Following:

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Taxman calls on Grab, Uber drivers



Christopher Tan, Senior Transport Correspondent


Ride-hailing firms working with Iras to enable those driving for them to e-file their returns




Dodging the taxman will become more difficult in the gig economy, as going cashless allows for better electronic tracking of payments. And the taxman has his sights next on Uber and Grab drivers.

The Sunday Times understands that the Inland Revenue Authority of Singapore (Iras) has approached the two ride-hailing firms, which have amassed over 40,000 drivers since arriving here in 2013, to work out an arrangement for the drivers to file their tax returns automatically. Doing so also limits their ability to underdeclare earnings.

Unlike cabbies' earnings, the takings of ride-hailing drivers are captured by their respective phone apps.


An Iras spokesman said: "To simplify tax filing and ease compliance for our taxpayers, Iras continually seeks ways to explore initiatives with third parties and platform providers to automate the transmission of income information directly into our tax systems."

She said the authority has done the same for property and insurance agencies. "Likewise, Iras is collaborating with Uber and Grab to make it more convenient for drivers with pre-filling of their income information in their electronic tax form."


When e-filing is available, the tens of thousands of Uber and Grab drivers will be unable to avoid paying taxes or under-declaring what they earn.


Driver Elliot Lin, 32, said: "If you have to pay, you have to pay."

Mr Lin said he is driving part-time, and the extra income he draws from driving would mean "an incremental tax increase of less than $100".

Not so for others. A 50-year-old who drives for Grab and Uber and claims to be drawing around $9,000 a month said: "This is going to be a problem. Not just for me. I think a lot of drivers will have an issue. I don't think self-employed people declare their full income.

"I'm very shocked. I may go back to driving taxis."

While there is no similar arrangement for cabbies - who accept mostly cash fares - ST understands that once Singapore goes cashless, taxing taxi drivers according to their actual take-home pay should become more feasible.

Likewise, hawkers, market stallholders and other business people may not be able to dodge the taxman once cashless payments become the norm.

Iras is also reaching out to others in the so-called "sharing economy", which includes people who rent out their homes - fully or partly - via platforms such as Airbnb. Iras said it has made available information on its website on "the taxable income of those in sharing economy".

As for Uber and Grab themselves, Iras said companies are liable for corporate tax on any income just like any other company operating in Singapore. Both Uber and Grab said they were working to comply with Iras' requests.

Singapore University of Social Sciences economist Walter Theseira said: "It's only fair that people pay the same income taxes regardless of whether the money was earned through self-employment or wage employment."

He added that it was more important to look at Central Provident Fund contributions. "Self-employment through private-hire or taxi-driving is excessively attractive financially because drivers do not have to pay CPF contributions.

"This raises their take-home earnings significantly... While this may appear 'good' in the short run, it puts the drivers at risk of not being able to finance their homes, or support themselves in retirement," he said.

A version of this article appeared in the print edition of The Sunday Times on September 17, 2017, with the headline 'Uber, Grab drivers in taxman's sights'.



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The reaction of the 50 year old driver puzzled me.

He claimed he makes $9000 a month as a Uber driver.

Now because of IRAS' move, he is shocked & consider going back to driving taxi.

Q1) So he has been false reporting his previous income as a taxi-driver & IRAS turned a blind eye or was unable to bust him & many other taxi Drivers?

Q2) So it is better to be a 3-4K taxi driver evading tax compared to a 9K Uber driver paying honest tax?
After tax, he will still have 7-8K left(or maybe more).
Still better than a 3-4K taxi driver, isn't it?

Cannot understand his logic..

[Grounded Eagle]

The reaction of the 50 year old driver puzzled me.

He claimed he makes $9000 a month as a Uber driver.

Now because of IRAS' move, he is shocked & consider going back to driving taxi.

Q1) So he has been false reporting his previous income as a taxi-driver & IRAS turned a blind eye or was unable to bust him & many other taxi Drivers?

Q2) So it is better to be a 3-4K taxi driver evading tax compared to a 9K Uber driver paying honest tax?
After tax, he will still have 7-8K left(or maybe more).
Still better than a 3-4K taxi driver, isn't it?

Cannot understand his logic..

He has to pay income to IRAS ...... and also contribute to CPF medisave 8% of his annual income to renew his PHV license.

[Robertson26]

The reaction of the 50 year old driver puzzled me.

He claimed he makes $9000 a month as a Uber driver.

Now because of IRAS' move, he is shocked & consider going back to driving taxi.

Q1) So he has been false reporting his previous income as a taxi-driver & IRAS turned a blind eye or was unable to bust him & many other taxi Drivers?

Q2) So it is better to be a 3-4K taxi driver evading tax compared to a 9K Uber driver paying honest tax?
After tax, he will still have 7-8K left(or maybe more).
Still better than a 3-4K taxi driver, isn't it?

Cannot understand his logic..


Didn't know they can earn so much . :eek:

[DTL2]

Didn't know they can earn so much . :eek:

Didn't know that too . :eek:

[arsenal168]

Didn't know that too . :eek:

Just take his words with a pinch of salt.

Already said can't understand his logic.

Indirectly saying his IQ not very high.

应该是"大炮仙" 🤣🤣

[hotguy2468]

Didn't know they can earn so much . :eek:

It's gross earnings lah.... after deductions for rental, petrol, fees etc I think left take home only about 3K - 5K. I was an Uber driver too and the good times were 2-3 yrs ago..... now with all the new regulations and monitoring Uber driver earnings are on par or worse than taxi drivers. Many Uber drivers who jumped ship are now going back to driving taxis. On hindsight I was fortunate that LTA did not approve me to attend the course to obtain the PHV license.

It's much more lucrative to be a pawangchia driver in JB doing cross border trips with so many daytrippers going to JB and stranded without transport coming back..... especially the PRs and tourists who often assume that the SBS / CWT buses run 24 hrs.... lol

[HeadOn]

It's gross earnings lah.... after deductions for rental, petrol, fees etc I think left take home only about 3K - 5K. I was an Uber driver too and the good times were 2-3 yrs ago..... now with all the new regulations and monitoring Uber driver earnings are on par or worse than taxi drivers. Many Uber drivers who jumped ship are now going back to driving taxis. On hindsight I was fortunate that LTA did not approve me to attend the course to obtain the PHV license.

I think if u r driving ur own car, should b able to make a bit more

[hotguy2468]

I think if u r driving ur own car, should b able to make a bit more

But you need to convert your insurance and the premium is much much more + you need to factor in the vehicle maintenance costs as your mileage will definitely skyrocket and replacement parts necessary due to wear n tear...... in the long run not worth using your own vehicle if driving fulltime... better to use a rental vehicle for Uber and keep your own vehicle as spare in case of accident or maintenance.

[HeadOn]

But you need to convert your insurance and the premium is much much more + you need to factor in the vehicle maintenance costs as your mileage will definitely skyrocket and replacement parts necessary due to wear n tear...... in the long run not worth using your own vehicle if driving fulltime... better to use a rental vehicle for Uber and keep your own vehicle as spare in case of accident or maintenance.

True i won't disagree w u. But if ur car fully paid up n left lets say 2yrs or less, the depreciation is pretty limited. Ya the commercial insurance will b higher but can earn back.

[hotguy2468]

True i won't disagree w u. But if ur car fully paid up n left lets say 2yrs or less, the depreciation is pretty limited. Ya the commercial insurance will b higher but can earn back.

If car left 2 yrs or less the maintenance costs will be high. A rental vehicle for Uber is only $45 p/day and it is for whole day. Definitely more cost effective than using your own vehicle.

[HeadOn]

If car left 2 yrs or less the maintenance costs will be high. A rental vehicle for Uber is only $45 p/day and it is for whole day. Definitely more cost effective than using your own vehicle.

All along my car maintenance is Low just fuel consumption can b higher. Not sure uber is 45/mth but I under grab

[leetona]

I think if u r driving ur own car, should b able to make a bit more


I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

[HeadOn]

I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

Oh u made quite good. Keep it up

[eliabellona]

I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

Not bad bro. Do you have any rest days?

[leetona]

Not bad bro. Do you have any rest days?

Yes.. Every Sunday.

[crisp]

I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

Is that with grab or with uber bro?

[leetona]

Is that with grab or with uber bro?

I only drive Grab.

[stonned]

I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

That's pretty good huh! I'm using my own car from 6pm-12am and hit about $3k a month onlym before deducting petrol. Can't drive longer because it's very tiring :-(

[leetona]

That's pretty good huh! I'm using my own car from 6pm-12am and hit about $3k a month onlym before deducting petrol. Can't drive longer because it's very tiring :-(


Driving is tiring but I don't feel tired driving at night.

[HeadOn]

Driving is tiring but I don't feel tired driving at night.

Maybe under the sun it can tired out one easier. Night is cooler but more stress on eyes I think

[tabliod]

Maybe under the sun it can tired out one easier. Night is cooler but more stress on eyes I think

Drive during the day for long hours can doze off easily

[leetona]

Maybe under the sun it can tired out one easier. Night is cooler but more stress on eyes I think


The faster I drive, I'm more alert. Day time feel sleepy, especially when having jam.
Night time better earning..

[HeadOn]

Drive during the day for long hours can doze off easily

True indeed. But I Guess most still will do daytime

[HeadOn]

The faster I drive, I'm more alert. Day time feel sleepy, especially when having jam.
Night time better earning..

Indeed will not b easy on the road. But at times will depend how much you wanna Cheong to

Night time cos lesser competition?

[leetona]

Indeed will not b easy on the road. But at times will depend how much you wanna Cheong to

Night time cos lesser competition?

Morning peak jam..

[HeadOn]

Morning peak jam..

True but think more takers ?

[leetona]

True but think more takers ?

Morning peak takes longer to complete the trip.

[HeadOn]

Morning peak takes longer to complete the trip.

Oh ya indeed . Those in rush will cancel u. I know of some who will start at 10am onwards but end late night n say it works out to be the same even if start Much earlier

[leetona]

Oh ya indeed . Those in rush will cancel u. I know of some who will start at 10am onwards but end late night n say it works out to be the same even if start Much earlier


Yes.. I used to start at 10am-10pm. Now I start at 5pm -2am or 8pm-5am. The earning is better driving at night.

[naugh]

Any tips from the pros here about driving part time?

[HeadOn]

Yes.. I used to start at 10am-10pm. Now I start at 5pm -2am or 8pm-5am. The earning is better driving at night.

Not all are night owls. Moreover night time might encounter more weirdos

[leetona]

Not all are night owls. Moreover night time might encounter more weirdos

Night weirdo ( drunker) maybe will have special service. Lol

[HeadOn]

Night weirdo ( drunker) maybe will have special service. Lol

Ya puke 🤢 inside ur car

[Explorelife]

Thanks bros for all your honest feedback.

Was considering driving for GRAB, but upon looking at the real statistics that you all provided, I think i rather stick to my part time job than drive :)

[Chinadoll888]

Actually Both Grab and uber can't work for full time is better to work part time though , is just like they offer you 30 trip 800$ promotion one time kind just take and go . anyone need help getting those one time kind incentive big lump sum just PM me will give u details

[smellmyfart]

Money is getting harder and harder to earn nowadays .

[HuangXiaoLong]

Money is getting harder and harder to earn nowadays .

Agree with you in this .

[KelongPresident]

Agree with you in this .

But easy for those in White . :)

[XiaoYaoZi]

I think they are making ok-ok income, but the hours will eventually take a toll on the body...

If you want to make an extra set of income, uber/grab is abit hard man...

There are better ways to do it.

[samyboys]

Money is getting harder and harder to earn nowadays .


as usual, no incentive, cannot drive

[samyboys]

I used to drive own car , installment vs rental ofcause is cheaper but the maintenance is high, road tax, insurance . I'm driving a rental car now. To me it is better to drive a rental car. Not much different actually.
I drive 5pm - 2am. Gross per month 9k. Net income about 4k plus.

the cost is really scary
u drive daily 1700 - 0200hrs?

[Vegeater]

But easy for those in White . :)

And easy to kelong too . :)

[leetona]

the cost is really scary
u drive daily 1700 - 0200hrs?


Yes.. 6 days a week

[HeadOn]

Yes.. 6 days a week

Was looking to do part time, wonder worth the effort n make some money

[Rickey]

Was looking to do part time, wonder worth the effort n make some money
I tried for 1 week being curious...found it not sustainable :(...sigh

[HeadOn]

I tried for 1 week being curious...found it not sustainable :(...sigh

In wat sense ?

[Rickey]

In wat sense ?
Just managed to cover rental & petrol...hardly any leftovers

[HeadOn]

Just managed to cover rental & petrol...hardly any leftovers

I heard it’s the incentives that contribute to higher income. If do part time with ur own car probably still can make a bit

[Rickey]

I heard it’s the incentives that contribute to higher income. If do part time with ur own car probably still can make a bit
Yes, i tink u r rite bro...wif yr own car, yr overheads r the same...no additional expenses to incur...but for rented cars it is quite different

[HeadOn]

Yes, i tink u r rite bro...wif yr own car, yr overheads r the same...no additional expenses to incur...but for rented cars it is quite different

Cos rental per day already set u back a certain amount. So u need to make much extra trips to breakeven before u can get some returns

[Rickey]

Cos rental per day already set u back a certain amount. So u need to make much extra trips to breakeven before u can get some returns
Yeah, u hit the nail on the head

[leetona]

Was looking to do part time, wonder worth the effort n make some money

Part time as in night driving? How many hours u can drive?

[leetona]

Who wanna drive part time.. Can pm me.. We share how it works.

[HeadOn]

Part time as in night driving? How many hours u can drive?

As in couple of hrs after some work days only n also during wkend. Not sure if it’s worth as need to convert to Commercial Insurance As using own car so dunno worth the effort Too

[leetona]

As in couple of hrs after some work days only n also during wkend. Not sure if it’s worth as need to convert to Commercial Insurance As using own car so dunno worth the effort Too


After 8pm - 2am.. Shouldnt be a problem

[HeadOn]

;)After 8pm - 2am.. Shouldnt be a problem

No lar . If work day, maybe 6pm to 9pm on odd days. Friday can b later. Then Saturday can start afternoon all the way to night time. Sunday can b bit same as Saturday but much shorter

[leetona]

;)

No lar . If work day, maybe 6pm to 9pm on odd days. Friday can b later. Then Saturday can start afternoon all the way to night time. Sunday can b bit same as Saturday but much shorter

Ok what. 6-9pm peak hour. Friday and Saturday can earn

[HeadOn]

Ok what. 6-9pm peak hour. Friday and Saturday can earn

This coming Wednesday I going for the full day study, dunno when will take the test too. Earliest probably get the license to drive only mth end

[SMGG]

Yes.. 6 days a week

bro u full time right, seems not bad with 4k+ net income

[SMGG]

I think they are making ok-ok income, but the hours will eventually take a toll on the body...

If you want to make an extra set of income, uber/grab is abit hard man...

There are better ways to do it.

bro can share your better way? must be legal

[samyboys]

Yes.. 6 days a week

good side income

[fuelhike]

bro u full time right, seems not bad with 4k+ net income

At least no need to face those asshole bosses and office politics :D

[leetona]

bro u full time right, seems not bad with 4k+ net income


For full time, isit consider as decent? Actually can earn 8k but no life to spend.

[HeadOn]

For full time, isit consider as decent? Actually can earn 8k but no life to spend.

U can have no life to spend but health will be a major issue

[samyboys]

need to balance between income and health;)

[Cuntworth]

Take a break if u need one afterall money cannot earn finish one .
Cover rental , petrol and yr target day salary enuff Liao...
Surely u guys have read over the news that pple die due to long hrs of working ...
Save some time for yr loved one or maybe suf the forum for a moment while on a break:D

[HelloGenic]

For full time, isit consider as decent? Actually can earn 8k but no life to spend.

That's very true bro!

[Chinadoll888]

Hi all anyone need help regarding private hire driver can advise you how to actually moniter and get a small lump sum from both grab/uber so you how to commit lesser time but earning more=D just pm me

Am a current grab /uber driver myself so can advise

[lonelyarine]

do I read your statement as below:

Hi all, anyone need help regarding private hire driver? can advise you how to actually moniter and get a small lump sum from both grab/uber. so you how to commit lesser time but earning more=D. just pm me

Hi all anyone need help regarding private hire driver can advise you how to actually moniter and get a small lump sum from both grab/uber so you how to commit lesser time but earning more=D just pm me

Am a current grab /uber driver myself so can advise

[arsenal168]

Wau Lao...

Saturday 16/12 6am tragic accident. A PHV driver(25) crashed into back gate of Istana along Cavenagh road), with a couple in the back seat.

The driver & his lady pax died in TTSH.

The girl’s boyfriend survived but sustained serious injuries.

Police suspected drink-driving...

On a side note, my friends & I had seen many PHV vehicles parked outside Textile Centre on Jalan sultan during our few visits there in the past months. Some drivers r seen picking up China chicks(girlfriends)for late supper.

Seriously...drink don’t drive, be responsible.

If want to drive, dun do booking jobs when intoxicated.

Dun bring your pax to hell with u.

[sohbuckkong]

Wau Lao......
If want to drive, dun do booking jobs when intoxicated.

Dun bring your pax to hell with u.

The problem is that our govt are too lax on the laws to punish errant drivers that resulted in serious tragedies. Looks like the law will be tighten only if their children, mother or grandfather involved in tragic accidents for them to wake up their idea.

[sohbuckkong]

For full time, isit consider as decent? Actually can earn 8k but no life to spend.

Its not possible to make 8k per mth. Uber and grab is just bluffing the general public. Dont be fooled by them.

Just to make 4k a mth is already a v big struggle. All my friends are v gd n hardworking taxi uber n grab drivers.

So members, please dont be fooled by those who claimed can easily make 4k, 5k, 100k a mth, they r just hoping they can sign u up and earn intro fees amounting to $750 to $2500 per intro from uber or grab.

Very gullible n irresponsible introducers.

[law rence]

Its not possible to make 8k per mth. Uber and grab is just bluffing the general public. Dont be fooled by them.

Just to make 4k a mth is already a v big struggle. All my friends are v gd n hardworking taxi uber n grab drivers.

So members, please dont be fooled by those who claimed can easily make 4k, 5k, 100k a mth, they r just hoping they can sign u up and earn intro fees amounting to $750 to $2500 per intro from uber or grab.

Very gullible n irresponsible introducers.

Do 10 hours minus all and can take the nonsense they play
Can hit 2k over laugh liao
Consider risk factors and losses

[Funzio]

Wau Lao...

Saturday 16/12 6am tragic accident. A PHV driver(25) crashed into back gate of Istana along Cavenagh road), with a couple in the back seat.

The driver & his lady pax died in TTSH.

The girl’s boyfriend survived but sustained serious injuries.

Police suspected drink-driving...

On a side note, my friends & I had seen many PHV vehicles parked outside Textile Centre on Jalan sultan during our few visits there in the past months. Some drivers r seen picking up China chicks(girlfriends)for late supper.

Seriously...drink don’t drive, be responsible.

If want to drive, dun do booking jobs when intoxicated.

Dun bring your pax to hell with u.

Dun jump to conclusion is caused by drink driving. I dun think so as the PHV driver is a young Mat ...... probably too tired after night shift and distracted by looking at GPS for direction as often PHV drivers are clueless about the routes to take.

[arsenal168]

Dun jump to conclusion is caused by drink driving. I dun think so as the PHV driver is a young Mat ...... probably too tired after night shift and distracted by looking at GPS for direction as often PHV drivers are clueless about the routes to take.

The police suspects drink-driving, not me😉

Latest news: From the survivor’s statement, driver was not drunk nor speeding. The car suddenly went out of control.

If it is car problem, then it highlights the importance of regular maintenance & servicing.

I heard from taxi drivers that they have to do monthly servicing & checks at their workshops.

I highly doubt PHV vehicles have such practice.

The last time I spoke with a Uber driver, he hasn’t done any car maintenance/servicing after driving for 4 months. Dun jump to conclusion is caused by drink driving. I dun think so as the PHV driver is a young Mat ...... probably too tired after night shift and distracted by looking at GPS for direction as often PHV drivers are clueless about the routes to take.

The police suspects drink-driving, not me😉

Latest news: From the survivor’s statement, driver was not drunk nor speeding. The car suddenly went out of control.

If it is car problem, then it highlights the importance of regular maintenance & servicing.

I heard from taxi drivers that they have to do monthly servicing & checks at their workshops.

I highly doubt PHV vehicles have such practice.

[sohbuckkong]

Do 10 hours minus all and can take the nonsense they play
Can hit 2k over laugh liao
Consider risk factors and losses

Yes, you are right. If can hit $2k for 10 hrs is already considered good n satisfactory.

For those who dont know, the fołlowing shall be the calculations. On avg a taxi, uber or grab shld collect between $20 to $25 per hour, sometime more sometime less, so lets calculate say on avg the collection per hr is $25 for 10hrs solid driving.

So fare collection $25 x 10 hrs Driving = $250.
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Expenses
Pay grab or uber 20% of $250 = $50
......................rent honda vezel = $75
........................................patrol = $60
............................................Erp = $15
..................So Total expenses = $200
--------------------------------------------------------------------

So nett profit = $250 - $200 = $50.

So after driving for 10hrs, the driver make only a miserable $50, after makan left only $35.

Yes its true they have incentive if one fetch a certain amount of passengers per week however they set d incentive in such a level that if one didnt drive for a day, u get no incentive. So on avg, if one wish to get d incentive, he shld pickup at least 20 passengers per day everyday for 7 days.

[devilogy]

Forget about incentives.
When u hit for the week..
They will reduce it for u for the next week.

To hit incentives, the required trip count will keep increasing but the incentives will keep reducing

Week 1: 120 trips to get $800
Week 2: 135 trips to get $570
Week 3: 165 trips to get $370
Week 4: 175 trips to get $270

Join at your own risk
New drivers get guaranteed $2400 per week
But later... As u get more into the driving.. They will start scewing you...

[seanylit]

Yes, you are right. If can hit $2k for 10 hrs is already considered good n satisfactory.

For those who dont know, the fołlowing shall be the calculations. On avg a taxi, uber or grab shld collect between $20 to $25 per hour, sometime more sometime less, so lets calculate say on avg the collection per hr is $25 for 10hrs solid driving.

So fare collection $25 x 10 hrs Driving = $250.
----------------------------------------
Expenses
Pay grab or uber 20% of $250 = $50
......................rent honda vezel = $75
........................................patrol = $60
............................................Erp = $15
..................So Total expenses = $200
--------------------------------------------------------------------

So nett profit = $250 - $200 = $50.

So after driving for 10hrs, the driver make only a miserable $50, after makan left only $35.

Yes its true they have incentive if one fetch a certain amount of passengers per week however they set d incentive in such a level that if one didnt drive for a day, u get no incentive. So on avg, if one wish to get d incentive, he shld pickup at least 20 passengers per day everyday for 7 days.

I always tune in to One FM and the other day they got GRAB/UBER drivers to call in to share their experience.

One GRAB driver shared that he nets about 3.5K after all expenses, he rents a car to drive GRAB.

working hours is about 10 hours a days, 5 full days + 1/2 day on Sat. To be frank, the long hours is to hit the incentive programme offered by GRAB so the 3.5K is not mainly from passengers' fare..

[newton]

The police suspects drink-driving, not me😉

Latest news: From the survivor’s statement, driver was not drunk nor speeding. The car suddenly went out of control.

If it is car problem, then it highlights the importance of regular maintenance & servicing.

I heard from taxi drivers that they have to do monthly servicing & checks at their workshops.

I highly doubt PHV vehicles have such practice.

The last time I spoke with a Uber driver, he hasn’t done any car maintenance/servicing after driving for 4 months.


Drink-driving or not, the driver must be speeding at high speed.
Look at the impact to the front of the car. No wonder 2 mati.

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[sohbuckkong]

Drink-driving or not, the driver must be speeding at high speed.
Look at the impact to the front of the car. No wonder 2 mati.

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Looks like the car crashed into the fołlowing side gate.

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[newton]

Looks like the car crashed into the fołlowing side gate.

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Yeah, the side gate flung away on impact.
It is a sure sign of bad omen for those who have offices in the Istana,
the dishonourable son PM and the Kelong Indian President.
The spirits at the back gate are not happy.

[arsenal168]

Yeah, the side gate flung away on impact.
It is a sure sign of bad omen for those who have offices in the Istana,
the dishonourable son PM and the Kelong Indian President.
The spirits at the back gate are not happy.

Indian president?!🤔

Where have u been bro?😂

[Cuntworth]

Indian president?!🤔

Where have u been bro?😂

Look at his Nick n u will know where he is:D

[lipe]

Bro arsenal168


It should where have you been and not bro newton.

Bro Newton is “correct. Check nationality of “Indian” parents and you will know the answer.

Are you the 70% who voted blindly?

Have a good week ahead.

Indian president?!🤔

Where have u been bro?😂

[arsenal168]

Bro arsenal168


It should where have you been and not bro newton.

Bro Newton is “correct. Check nationality of “Indian” parents and you will know the answer.

Are you the 70% who voted blindly?

Have a good week ahead.

Bro, care to enlighten?

How is Halimah “Indian”?

Pardon my ignorance🙃

[arsenal168]

Wow, just googled & found her parentage.

U r right, Bro Newton😉

Well...not really interested in Politicians, so pardon my ignorance about that.

[newton]

Where have u been bro?😂

Look at his Nick n u will know where he is:D

Next time i will belanja you guys Carlsberg beer at Newton Food ctr.;)

[newton]

Bro arsenal168


It should where have you been and not bro newton.

Bro Newton is “correct. Check nationality of “Indian” parents and you will know the answer.

Are you the 70% who voted blindly?

Have a good week ahead.

100% he is from the blind 70%.

Wow, just googled & found her parentage.

U r right, Bro Newton😉

Well...not really interested in Politicians, so pardon my ignorance about that.

Ok, next time i will use "Fake Malay", happy?:rolleyes:

[Merkel]

Yeah, the side gate flung away on impact.
It is a sure sign of bad omen for those who have offices in the Istana,
the dishonourable son PM and the Kelong Indian President.
The spirits at the back gate are not happy.

Looks like the new President bring bad luck to Istana House. I better stay far far away from her .

[hotguy2468]

Looks like the new President bring bad luck to Istana House. I better stay far far away from her .

It is not the President but that location is known to be "dirty".
My uncle served NS in 1st Guards Battalion in the 70s. At that time the Istana were guarded by them instead of the MPs and their barracks were in the buildings located just after the Cavenagh entrance. Many of them reported spooky encounters during their night prowls but were ordered to keep those incidents silent. My uncle and many of his platoon mates resorted to carry amulets and talismans when time for duty there.