MP Raid

[Starx88]

heard from ML S Spa BB got raided twice in May alone..Chiong Safe bros...

AV visits to S Spa very common lah, I kanna once before last year. Mostly check ml work permit and try luck if can catch any red handled. I just lie down and wait till they're done, never kaciau me.
Main disappointment is that management didn't try to compensation the time lost

[sionglim]

maybe rumours..
peaceful this week, lets chong

[sionglim]

You can ask AV to finish you off - heard is legal .

nvr wear a shorts, exposing the pte parts, can be illegal

[miakiarip]

Wah lan eh!
Facebook trying to sabo me siah?
Keep seeing S Spa on my Facebook feed these days. :eek:

Did you search for spa in Facebook before?
Most of the times these will track your search pattern and post feeds.

[anonmsk]

What happens to the customers during a raid?

[daddyqwer]

What about bukit gombak?

[strikeback4]

What happens to the customers during a raid?

Police just ask if ML got provide special service or not... have don't have than you walk away

[完颜不破]

What happens to the customers during a raid?

Police will ask for ur NRIC. U can stay in the room to wait. Kena few weeks ago. The police are very polite. They left the spa empty handed.

[leonleonli]

Police will ask for ur NRIC. U can stay in the room to wait. Kena few weeks ago. The police are very polite. They left the spa empty handed.

as we bros as customers, always safe, just cooperative. Well said. we tax payer to the police, so it is right to be polite.

[aDeCaLs]

Did you search for spa in Facebook before?
Most of the times these will track your search pattern and post feeds.

Alamak. Like that also can.
Can clear the record or not?

[aDeCaLs]

Returning 42 missiles aDeCals :p P

Play Safe + Go Home Safe samsters :)
Thanks, bro.

[WanThai]

Hey bros!! Any idea if the MP st D****n with the minahs and malays still ard? Tried texting them no reply since last week:eek:

[完颜不破]

as we bros as customers, always safe, just cooperative. Well said. we tax payer to the police, so it is right to be polite.

Yes bro. I even asked the police if need to change, he said no need. When returning me my NRIC, i said thank you.. he even said u r welcome :)

[venusteo89]

Yes bro. I even asked the police if need to change, he said no need. When returning me my NRIC, i said thank you.. he even said u r welcome :)

They have to be nice to you in case they need you to be witness against the girls bah

[sentinel21]

Hey bros!! Any idea if the MP st D****n with the minahs and malays still ard? Tried texting them no reply since last week:eek:

Most likely gone liao..My last visit there few mths ago like only left pinoy and thai

[MISSI]

such good advice - thanks to Laojiao cheongsters ;) get ready to visit my favourite MP tonite....

Yes bro. I even asked the police if need to change, he said no need. When returning me my NRIC, i said thank you.. he even said u r welcome :)

as we bros as customers, always safe, just cooperative. Well said. we tax payer to the police, so it is right to be polite.

[Belt]

That is why clean establishment also have the risk due to 1-2 ML... best is lay low due to the frequent raid... if small head itchy go GL or dome1/2

maybe tabao best if in it :D

[Apollo]

There will come a time that there will be NO MORE spas left in sgp !!!!

Don't believe in the efficiency of SPF ?! Just look at the time wheet there are tons of Health Centers but now ??? Not a single one left!

That my friends - demonstrates the efficiency and effectiveness of the singapore spirt!

they can if they want, but i think they need to maintain balance ... otherwise they will lost their job hehe

[strikeback4]

maybe tabao best if in it :D

Ex lor... pay the MP for the ML time.... pay the hotel transit fee.... than pay ML again for special.... might as well find dome 1/2 or GL :rolleyes:

[reading]

Ex lor... pay the MP for the ML time.... pay the hotel transit fee.... than pay ML again for special.... might as well find dome 1/2 or GL :rolleyes:

GL best, legal and has minimum check-up and standards :D

[loneyheart]

Hey bros!! Any idea if the MP st D****n with the minahs and malays still ard? Tried texting them no reply since last week:eek:

Upped u bro :)

[mpfire]

Some spa got raid because they forgot they are clean spa. Don't too hungry to earn $88 for the fake P-massage and charge ridiculous price for extra service.

My personal experience in the famous x Spa at Bukit Batok and Toa Payoh. Most of the ML just wish you to take $88 fake P-massage and earn additional $50-$100 for HJ. If you opt for normal $50 massage, the ML will show you attitude, poor massage and some ML will clearly told you they have no mood to do normal massage.

They claim to be a clean spa. But if ML only want to earn $$ from extra service then they should not work in a normal spa. $50 is also hard earn money for us and deserve to get a proper massage for 60min.

[strikeback4]

Some spa got raid because they forgot they are clean spa. Don't too hungry to earn $88 for the fake P-massage and charge ridiculous price for extra service.

My personal experience in the famous x Spa at Bukit Batok and Toa Payoh. Most of the ML just wish you to take $88 fake P-massage and earn additional $50-$100 for HJ. If you opt for normal $50 massage, the ML will show you attitude, poor massage and some ML will clearly told you they have no mood to do normal massage.

They claim to be a clean spa. But if ML only want to earn $$ from extra service then they should not work in a normal spa. $50 is also hard earn money for us and deserve to get a proper massage for 60min.

lazy ma... fj do not put in so much effort comparing to proper massage...

And not all the ML even know how to give a proper massage... just want to earn from GQ

[sionglim]

Hey bros!! Any idea if the MP st D****n with the minahs and malays still ard? Tried texting them no reply since last week:eek:

mina from other plc said ,nowaday must beware of raid.

[wacko69]

Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.

[SUNRISERYOKO]

Kudos 2 UPP mpfire. $50 is hard earned $$ for many bros myself included....

We should reward those hardworking Good-Attitude MLs. Not those $ faced piano-massage MLs who are in this trade for $$$ only.....

Reward the GOOD :) Banish the BADD :eek:

Some spa got raid because they forgot they are clean spa. Don't too hungry to earn $88 for the fake P-massage and charge ridiculous price for extra service.

My personal experience in the famous x Spa at Bukit Batok and Toa Payoh. Most of the ML just wish you to take $88 fake P-massage and earn additional $50-$100 for HJ. If you opt for normal $50 massage, the ML will show you attitude, poor massage and some ML will clearly told you they have no mood to do normal massage.

They claim to be a clean spa. But if ML only want to earn $$ from extra service then they should not work in a normal spa. $50 is also hard earn money for us and deserve to get a proper massage for 60min.

[Keima]

Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.

Yah! Some idiot posted an FR that sexposed my fav ML. She nearly got fired. :mad:

She now limit service because scared boss catch her, so if you know who I'm writing about and am as pissed as I am, pm me n I'll tell u which bro sabo'ed us all.

[cover]

Totally agree with what some brothers said here. We have been putting so much good foods on the table for them. Maybe we are just pamper them too much like just ask them tease us and skip the massage part...till they take this as SOP.

Market is bad, water in well is drying up. I will only put food on those table which they deserve it .

[fortian17]

Yah! Some idiot posted an FR that sexposed my fav ML. She nearly got fired. :mad:

She now limit service because scared boss catch her, so if you know who I'm writing about and am as pissed as I am, pm me n I'll tell u which bro sabo'ed us all.

ML frm where eh..? dont mind me asking
PM me if not convenient here:confused:

[sionglim]

Yah! Some idiot posted an FR that sexposed my fav ML. She nearly got fired. :mad:

She now limit service because scared boss catch her, so if you know who I'm writing about and am as pissed as I am, pm me n I'll tell u which bro sabo'ed us all.
fr remain disreet,wind big.
gal told me they bring along print out of sbf n advertisement

[sionglim]

Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.

yes boss of gal veri worried..
hope our fr dun reveal those dirty things.

[BESTSUNNY]

agree + 2 upp....SPF + AV officers must keep their jobs too. Time is bad :eek:

they can if they want, but i think they need to maintain balance ... otherwise they will lost their job hehe

[paradise80]

Sad to say, Actually I support this quite of raid. These kind of cheating spas offering p Massage is spoiling everything and increase the price. I miss the past when p massage are non existent and the ML will offer you HJ at a Low cost while giving you genuine massage. Now most of the ML have get lazy. Curse the boss of S Spa who start all this P massage.

[/B][/B]QUOTE=wacko69;16009777]Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

[Keima]

ML frm where eh..? dont mind me asking
PM me if not convenient here:confused:

Best not to say more, except that bro's FR was quite obvious who and which spa he went. Really not discrete.

[mpfire]

Sad to say, Actually I support this quite of raid. These kind of cheating spas offering p Massage is spoiling everything and increase the price. I miss the past when p massage are non existent and the ML will offer you HJ at a Low cost while giving you genuine massage. Now most of the ML have get lazy. Curse the boss of S Spa who start all this P massage.

[/B][/B]QUOTE=wacko69;16009777]Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

Precisely. I like to go to the Spa at the west few years ago, where most of the ML will give you good massage, good teasing and hope you to extend the session or RTM them in future. Even HJ offer also at low cost or within the market price. ML still make money from there and some have become the boss of the Spa now.

But nowadays with the P-massage, ML are mostly don't know massage well. They just want to earn fast $$$ by doing easy and lazy job by giving piano massage, teasing, and earn from extra service. Some of them think that they are high class ML try to charge ridiculous price for HJ at $80-$100.

[Questioneer]

Precisely. I like to go to the Spa at the west few years ago, where most of the ML will give you good massage, good teasing and hope you to extend the session or RTM them in future. Even HJ offer also at low cost or within the market price. ML still make money from there and some have become the boss of the Spa now.

But nowadays with the P-massage, ML are mostly don't know massage well. They just want to earn fast $$$ by doing easy and lazy job by giving piano massage, teasing, and earn from extra service. Some of them think that they are high class ML try to charge ridiculous price for HJ at $80-$100.
This one masseuse at a spa in the west gave me attitude when I said I didn't want the prostate massage. She even used her phone to text and play games during the massage -_-

[HonkyTonkyMan]

I gave up going to these spa offering so call P massage...at best they will pull and tug at your balls till it goes blue or at worst some simply just pressed around your groin..only a couple of them gave a real good p massage but too bad all left..

[GR888]

P massage was a blatant con job right from the very start. :rolleyes:
Dunno why so many people fell for that scam :confused:

[ris2099]

Real prostate massage involves sticking a finger in your asshole & massaging the prostate. The ones offered at spas are nothing but scam. Still, people fell for it anyways.

[sionglim]

Real prostate massage involves sticking a finger in your asshole & massaging the prostate. The ones offered at spas are nothing but scam. Still, people fell for it anyways.

u are right, they just find a easy way to earn money involve pte part,
share with the boss.
shameful service

[newyorker88]

Sad to say, Actually I support this quite of raid. These kind of cheating spas offering p Massage is spoiling everything and increase the price. I miss the past when p massage are non existent and the ML will offer you HJ at a Low cost while giving you genuine massage. Now most of the ML have get lazy. Curse the boss of S Spa who start all this P massage.

[/B][/B]QUOTE=wacko69;16009777]Too many raids nowadays. And a lot of threads are being deleted from this forum. Guess some of the bosses realised this and decide to stay Low the the time being to avoid unnecessary attentions. Hope it all gets over sooner than later.[/QUOTE]

Once a while the av have to show face, if not they may get into trouble.

[KREMIL]

Just wanna add some lights to P-Massage (I posted elsewhere) :-

Thanks to Max seniorita :)

Now we know in details so-called "P-Massage". It's time for true enlightenment.

"What is a prostate massage ? "

A digital rectal exam is used to check the overall size and condition of the prostate gland. During the procedure, a doctor will check for lumps and other changes that may be signs of health issues.

A doctor wearing a lubricated glove performs the test by inserting a finger into the patient's rectum and pressing the sides of the prostate nearby.

If the symptoms suggest an infection, the doctor may massage, or rub, the prostate to obtain fluid for later study [QUOTE]

Bros - hands up to those who wish their rectum to be pried open + pressed by ML / "doctor"........:confused::confused:

1 UPP ris2099 for good post ;)

Real prostate massage involves sticking a finger in your asshole & massaging the prostate. The ones offered at spas are nothing but scam. Still, people fell for it anyways.

[fortian17]

Best not to say more, except that bro's FR was quite obvious who and which spa he went. Really not discrete.

hmm.. alright then =)


fr remain disreet,wind big.
gal told me they bring along print out of sbf n advertisement

wow seriously.......

[ironmaiden2015]

It's true what the bros say about the P massage.. I got conned today as the P massage end up becoming a low level hdly and expect me to cum with touching..

[mpfire]

Kudos 2 UPP mpfire. $50 is hard earned $$ for many bros myself included....

We should reward those hardworking Good-Attitude MLs. Not those $ faced piano-massage MLs who are in this trade for $$$ only.....

Reward the GOOD :) Banish the BADD :eek:

Thanks for support bro. But didn't see your point up me leh:p

[loneyheart]

Most likely gone liao..My last visit there few mths ago like only left pinoy and thai

Upped u back :) thxs bro

[MayMassage]

Nowadays these gals openly advertise in wechat and post photos which clearly shows they provide service and they also post the name card of the spa.
Isn't it very obvious that they will get into trouble?

Does it show that the biz is very bad and hence they go to any extent to woo customers.

I find it is not safe as you might end up in trouble if you went for a massage though your intent was clean massage.

[strikeback4]

Nowadays these gals openly advertise in wechat and post photos which clearly shows they provide service and they also post the name card of the spa.
Isn't it very obvious that they will get into trouble?

Does it show that the biz is very bad and hence they go to any extent to woo customers.

I find it is not safe as you might end up in trouble if you went for a massage though your intent was clean massage.

Some even post on the wechat moments the address :rolleyes:

[aDeCaLs]

fr remain disreet,wind big.
gal told me they bring along print out of sbf n advertisement

WTF! That's moronic!
Print out for what?!! Voucher ar?

[sorosX]

fr remain disreet,wind big.
gal told me they bring along print out of sbf n advertisement

WTF!!!! Serious, Oh my tian ........

[strikeback4]

WTF! That's moronic!
Print out for what?!! Voucher ar?

proof lor... you look at the advertisment got FL photos, number and wechat ID....

[strikeback4]

WTF!!!! Serious, Oh my tian ........

All along police know the existence of SBF forum, just that they want do homework and possible 1 swoop catch many, or big fish, even better

[GR888]

Some even post on the wechat moments the address :rolleyes:

Yup, that's how I found out about girls who are being advertised here.
Best part is, if you find them on WeChat, it's actually cheaper than telling them you got the contact from SBF, lol! :D

[Devore]

Since the beginning of SBF while still at the adelphi forums, this topic of AV collecting information from SBF on the MPs started.

In any case, info from here might not be accurate, mostly likely they will cross check with other sources. I wont say they get their info purely from here, rather as a reference. Most of the time, they act upon complaints or bad media reports on the activities of MP in HDB heartland.

Chances are they are trying to control the number of MPs in HDB neighborhood.

As long as you are not doing any hanky panky (caught with pants down) or GQ during raid/spot checks and cooperative with them, nothing will happen to you.

OT abit,. as for the quality of service, partially is the customer fault, we should share those providing bad service here and avoid going back to that ML.

[SUNRISERYOKO]

2 UPP mpfire :D

Thanks for support bro. But didn't see your point up me leh:p

2 UPP for P-Massage lesson ;)

Just wanna add some lights to P-Massage (I posted elsewhere) :-

Thanks to Max seniorita.

Now we know in details so-called "P-Massage". It's time for true enlightenment.

[QUOTE] "What is a prostate massage ? "

A digital rectal exam is used to check the overall size and condition of the prostate gland. During the procedure, a doctor will check for lumps and other changes that may be signs of health issues.

A doctor wearing a lubricated glove performs the test by inserting a finger into the patient's rectum and pressing the sides of the prostate nearby.

If the symptoms suggest an infection, the doctor may massage, or rub, the prostate to obtain fluid for later study

1 UPP ris2099 for good post ;)

[paradise80]

Since our hardworking police are reading this SBF, please kindly help raid those massage spa places which provide the P Massage. Cause these bosses are sucking our hard earned $$ badly and not providing the proper service that we paid for.

[Sfan]

Oops wrong quote used

[BESTSUNNY]

I support that move with my 2 UPP :D Our hard-earned $$$ should go a longer way.

Since our hardworking police are reading this SBF, please kindly help raid those massage spa places which provide the P Massage. Cause these bosses are sucking our hard earned $$ badly and not providing the proper service that we paid for.

[BTech]

Let's organize a raid !!!

Someone go to those lousy $sucking spa, and 20mins into session, lets get another person to report m have AV raid the joint ! And when spot check, simply say the ML insist there must be specials!!!!

[chukeliang]

p mssg cause the surge in rate of raid.?.
maybe..

advertise in menu at counter.

[chukeliang]

Let's organize a raid !!!

Someone go to those lousy $sucking spa, and 20mins into session, lets get another person to report m have AV raid the joint ! And when spot check, simply say the ML insist there must be specials!!!!
shop owner spy on excelsior mssg shop. taken photo.
tonite sin min.

[8898108]

shop owner spy on excelsior mssg shop. taken photo.
tonite sin min.
Here is the link:
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20170603-767879

[ahhui]

hello av korkor. i heard yr patronise back the mp after yr investigate the place.

shame on you.i know who are the people. ml knew the names too.

[strikeback4]

AV, please do something on those spa that provide P massage

LOL you got con by them so holding a grudge? :rolleyes:

[chukeliang]

avoid excelsior, xin min nite news..
photo publish out, neighbouring shop keepers
take photos, for spf to take action

[strikeback4]

avoid excelsior, xin min nite news..
photo publish out, neighbouring shop keepers
take photos, for spf to take action

after a few months... everyone will forget about it and business will resume :rolleyes:

[ahhui]

ml say saw many times those neighbour shops staffs and ladies who walk past those mp heartland area will snap photos and send in their groupchat to see if is their husband or boyfriend and some call police if see guys enter the spa for massage.

thats why av came so fast.and they are ever ready to hit target cases to get promotion and bonus and bootlick the brasshead to show that they are capable in av raid

[leonleonli]

SPF so useless. Business is as usual, that place mentioned in newspaper, I wanted to book that gal, her business so good so hard to book. So what....Can forget that piece of news.

[fastfoot]

Since the beginning of SBF while still at the adelphi forums, this topic of AV collecting information from SBF on the MPs started.

In any case, info from here might not be accurate, mostly likely they will cross check with other sources. I wont say they get their info purely from here, rather as a reference. Most of the time, they act upon complaints or bad media reports on the activities of MP in HDB heartland.

Chances are they are trying to control the number of MPs in HDB neighborhood.

As long as you are not doing any hanky panky (caught with pants down) or GQ during raid/spot checks and cooperative with them, nothing will happen to you.

OT abit,. as for the quality of service, partially is the customer fault, we should share those providing bad service here and avoid going back to that ML.


If customer was caught in the act will the customer be charged ? Agree that we should share those who provide bad service and bad attitude . But then again some info may not be real as they might come from competitors who is out to sabo others .

[fastfoot]

Place rather remote...good point is there's no competitors so quite peaceful...but if there is a public complaint...ubin/ tekong AV also will go....:D

Still got many places AV have not gone to .

[Sfan]

If customer was caught in the act will the customer be charged ? Agree that we should share those who provide bad service and bad attitude . But then again some info may not be real as they might come from competitors who is out to sabo others .

I'm also thinking that. And when we sabo the shop by inviting AV to check them out, are we also sabo-ing some bros who just happen to be in the shop ?

What if it were you in a shop that got sabotaged intentionally by one of the posts here ?

[Sfan]

Knn !!!!

I was just "released" after waiting and questioning at a well known spa!

Ask for my ic - and I said its in my wallet in the car. I asked them follow me to get, they gave me the sian look but agreed.

Ask if got special service - my reply is : sir, maybe if you come in 30mins later I can tell you! I have not even removedmy jeans and shoes and you ask me this redunant question! Can I ask for your badge number. He stunned and ask if I am trying to be funny! I cooly said: No, are you? If you want to charge me, read me my lines and use real cuffs and not nylon cuffs! Be sure I will like my lawyer present during our statement.

He slammed the door so hard the track broke amd door dangling! Lol!

As he walked away, I asked spa reception if I can have my money back as there was no session! Mata all stare at me ! I stare and asked again! Reception LL gave me back my money!

Wanted to ask for refund of of $1.20 parking coupon, bur decided not to push the limits and slammed the sliding door of the spa shut!!!! Mata all blurr!!!

Lol

I'm really curious which well-known spa you were in. Bro can PM me ?

[KREMIL]

Thanks for quick up-to-minute update :p

avoid excelsior, xin min nite news..
photo publish out, neighbouring shop keepers
take photos, for spf to take action

Here is the link:
http://www.zaobao.com.sg/znews/singapore/story20170603-767879

[kwokfucheng]

actually what happens to the boss when a massage lady gets caught by Av? do they get off with just a warning ? anybody can enlighten me?

[newyorker88]

Posting in newspapers? Better siam that place.

[SAFFRONnation]

42 upp - simply love your last statement.

Do NOT do to others - what you do NOT want others to do to you 👌

I'm also thinking that. And when we sabo the shop by inviting AV to check them out, are we also sabo-ing some bros who just happen to be in the shop ?

What if it were you in a shop that got sabotaged intentionally by one of the posts here ?

[Devore]

If customer was caught in the act will the customer be charged ? Agree that we should share those who provide bad service and bad attitude . But then again some info may not be real as they might come from competitors who is out to sabo others .

Dont think the bro will be charged, likely they will make things difficult for you if you are not cooperative especially tio caught in the act.

As prostitution is not illegal, it is only if the WL is underage (below 18). Other than that, you are likely to be a witness for them to charge the ML and the boss of the MP.

As for fake info, always take all FRs with a pinch of salt. If there is a overwhelming FRs on bad service, then most likely is bad. The points system here is also for such purpose, but as with all systems, there will be some loopholes.

[Ngjunxian]

Skip and boycott this spa unless you want to become Mr Robert :D

Spa 9

https://www.facebook.com/41HollandDrive/

[SUNRISERYOKO]

Must be those hanky panky MPs that kena raid.....i shall stick to my old-time favourite genuine Clean massage joints. Wanna go home Safe - by playing Safe 😃

shop owner spy on excelsior mssg shop. taken photo.
tonite sin min.

[strikeback4]

Skip and boycott this spa unless you want to become Mr Robert :D

Spa 9

https://www.facebook.com/41HollandDrive/

what did they do? :confused:

[aDeCaLs]

If customer was caught in the act will the customer be charged ? Agree that we should share those who provide bad service and bad attitude . But then again some info may not be real as they might come from competitors who is out to sabo others .

Never kenna before *touch wood*
But from others who posted here, customer won't be charged.
But if you chao kuan to them, they typically will chao kuan back.

[ahhui]

daytime neighbourhood mp ladies were normally dependant pass holder wives and pr holders.

they will not risk to do special services for clients.

first of for all,they will get sent back to police station and have to call their husband at here which prove to be too much risk and divorce to handle

their pr pass,kids and future at here will not risk for a handjob for client.

their ml wechat group were aware abt sammyboy forum.they are aware of the av raid monitoring too

[jerryjj]

Never kenna before *touch wood*
But from others who posted here, customer won't be charged.
But if you chao kuan to them, they typically will chao kuan back.

I actually havent see any bros saying that they kana charged yet... So i guess youre right

[newyorker88]

Never kenna before *touch wood*
But from others who posted here, customer won't be charged.
But if you chao kuan to them, they typically will chao kuan back.

Cooperate w them, u are ok. They are after the gal, not you

[ahhui]

girls will be in trouble.that is why neighbourhood mp ladies will not provide special services as most of them are married to local guys at here with kids and real families.

if they got caught,they have to call their husbands to bail them out

that be end of their marriages and divorces without custody of their kids which none of the prc ml with dependant pass and pr holders will risk it and they have to risk the ownership of the shop being raided too.

for just a handjob? this was what i am told as alot ml are my clients

[strikeback4]

Never kenna before *touch wood*
But from others who posted here, customer won't be charged.
But if you chao kuan to them, they typically will chao kuan back.

Some think they are knight in shinning armor... will defend the ML.... end up got arrested for obstruction of justice....

Please remember the police just want to catch those ML / MP that provide special so don't play punk with the police... not worth it.... just tell them the truth

[ml1138]

girls will be in trouble.that is why neighbourhood mp ladies will not provide special services as most of them are married to local guys at here with kids and real families.

if they got caught,they have to call their husbands to bail them out

that be end of their marriages and divorces without custody of their kids which none of the prc ml with dependant pass and pr holders will risk it and they have to risk the ownership of the shop being raided too.

for just a handjob? this was what i am told as alot ml are my clients

you means you are serving the ML..???:D

[HonkyTonkyMan]

I think beside checking ML, police also check register and make sure details entered by customers are actual...so better not blur blur put fake name and ic..

[BADDDman]

27 upp newyorker88 - welcome to Singapore :)

Cooperate w them, u are ok. They are after the gal, not you

Never kenna before *touch wood*
But from others who posted here, customer won't be charged.
But if you chao kuan to them, they typically will chao kuan back.

[ahhui]

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

[jsparrow]

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

Very unlikely that AV will intrude to your family affair, they will just apprehend the ML, there is no complications to the customer whatsoever, unless the customer is challenging the officers during the raids but that will lead to him kanna handcuffed and sleeping at the station.

[nicklite]

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

This is so untrue....

Don't go around scaring people. They won't intrude into customers affair.

[strikeback4]

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

don't post rubbish lei

even if customer visit illegal ML / FL its not a chargeable offence so police cannot do anything unless the customer gua lan la

[massage2016]

what will happen to the customers during the raid. ?

[hrodger25]

Nothing will be happened unless customers guai lan and challenged the AV.

[strikeback4]

what will happen to the customers during the raid. ?

if caught, police will ask for your IC to check if you have any criminal record, than they will ask you if you recieve another "special service" or not

[massage2016]

if caught, police will ask for your IC to check if you have any criminal record, than they will ask you if you recieve another "special service" or not

what if we really received for example HJ and we didn't lie AV, telling the truth.... would they act against us?

[strikeback4]

what if we really received for example HJ and we didn't lie AV, telling the truth.... would they act against us?

If yes than they ask you dress up than you go home lor

[matey1982]

If yes than they ask you dress up than you go home lor

Oic thanks for bringing it up

[fastfoot]

Dont think the bro will be charged, likely they will make things difficult for you if you are not cooperative especially tio caught in the act.

As prostitution is not illegal, it is only if the WL is underage (below 18). Other than that, you are likely to be a witness for them to charge the ML and the boss of the MP.

As for fake info, always take all FRs with a pinch of salt. If there is a overwhelming FRs on bad service, then most likely is bad. The points system here is also for such purpose, but as with all systems, there will be some loopholes.

Thanks for your reply . Feel a lot better now. Of course naturally we will cooperate with the mata if they ask nicely and politely . I always go for milfs when I go for massage not SYTs so hence no need to check whether they are above 18 years old or not .

Nowadays I read all Frs with a pinch of salt . Good ones and he bad ones . especially if there is too much good fr on one thread . But with so much raids going on lately it is better to play it safe for the time being .

[fastfoot]

don't post rubbish lei

even if customer visit illegal ML / FL its not a chargeable offence so police cannot do anything unless the customer gua lan la

If officer is the one who gua lan how ?

[strikeback4]

If officer is the one who gua lan how ?

If police gua lan, you lan lan lor... what you want to do? If you want to go home quickly than just answer their question can already

Don't act too smart and go and defend ML or play punk with police, or else they will say you are hindering them in their work

[SUNRISERYOKO]

2 upp nick for putting things in the right perspective :D

This is so untrue....Don't go around scaring people. They won't intrude into customers affair.

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

[8898108]

If police gua lan, you lan lan lor... what you want to do? If you want to go home quickly than just answer their question can already

Don't act too smart and go and defend ML or play punk with police, or else they will say you are hindering them in their work
If police just cooperate should be fine
I think real unlucky is kena news reporter! risk becoming cover page photo!

[aDeCaLs]

I think beside checking ML, police also check register and make sure details entered by customers are actual...so better not blur blur put fake name and ic..

If put ang moh name that is not in IC but in name card (for example), will kenna?
I go clean also put ang moh name leh...

[strikeback4]

If put ang moh name that is not in IC but in name card (for example), will kenna?
I go clean also put ang moh name leh...

doesn't matter, the name in the book is for references purposes, important thing is IC no

[Apollo]

If put ang moh name that is not in IC but in name card (for example), will kenna?
I go clean also put ang moh name leh...

now lot of massage place need to register, do you put real name and contact, or just anyhow write one in the book ?

[Apollo]

doesn't matter, the name in the book is for references purposes, important thing is IC no

Ooo IC no must be true, or just anyhow write :D:D

[newyorker88]

now lot of massage place need to register, do you put real name and contact, or just anyhow write one in the book ?

There is nothing wrong in getting massages, it is ok to write ur real name n ic

[miakiarip]

Ooo IC no must be true, or just anyhow write :D:D

I give my true ic number. Though i dont write it so nicely. This is incase they decide to tally with the pple during that time slot when the raid happens. I definitely dont want them to spend too much on me.

[strikeback4]

Ooo IC no must be true, or just anyhow write :D:D

Do but don't get caught lor.... :p

I remember my friend he just give a random IC number to the police... end up the officer comms the HQ and check that he gave an invalid IC no... end up my friend kana fuck by the police officer :rolleyes:

[GOODFELLO]

Very well said newyorker 16 UPP ++ :D

There is nothing wrong in getting massages, it is ok to write ur real name n ic

[ahhui]

Normal neigbourhood massage a lot end up need Keng upsell sign massage packages like those hair salons.

[SGKai]

The MP scene has gotten progressively worse over the last several years. I still miss the days of the big super nice spas where you could watch TV, eat food and chill in the hot tub and then get a great massage with extras.

Nowadays....a good ML that also gives a legit massage is rare and any that give good massages tend to be ugly or at least not hot

With these raids...might as well just go to Geylang legal houses as same price and just as hot. Still miss getting a good massage followed by a release tho. If Geylang houses offered that, I'd stop coming to this sub-forum.

.

[strikeback4]

The MP scene has gotten progressively worse over the last several years. I still miss the days of the big super nice spas where you could watch TV, eat food and chill in the hot tub and then get a great massage with extras.

Nowadays....a good ML that also gives a legit massage is rare and any that give good massages tend to be ugly or at least not hot

With these raids...might as well just go to Geylang legal houses as same price and just as hot. Still miss getting a good massage followed by a release tho. If Geylang houses offered that, I'd stop coming to this sub-forum.

.

Some go across JB to get the same treatment

[HonkyTonkyMan]

If put ang moh name that is not in IC but in name card (for example), will kenna?
I go clean also put ang moh name leh...

impt is not name, ang mo or not cos most of us also take up ang mo name, if your IC number don't tally with what your wrote then likely get yourselves into trouble..

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Some go across JB to get the same treatment

i think Katong there got one spa think 1.5hours about $90+ can spend whole day and use all the facilities such as suana, jacuzzi etc with makan...but veri long never go, a bit too ex for me..i think the one above superbowl jurong also same...as far as i experience, these are clean spas..

[strikeback4]

i think Katong there got one spa think 1.5hours about $90+ can spend whole day and use all the facilities such as suana, jacuzzi etc with makan...but veri long never go, a bit too ex for me..i think the one above superbowl jurong also same...as far as i experience, these are clean spas..

lol but no special :(

[Devore]

The MP scene has gotten progressively worse over the last several years. I still miss the days of the big super nice spas where you could watch TV, eat food and chill in the hot tub and then get a great massage with extras.

Nowadays....a good ML that also gives a legit massage is rare and any that give good massages tend to be ugly or at least not hot

With these raids...might as well just go to Geylang legal houses as same price and just as hot. Still miss getting a good massage followed by a release tho. If Geylang houses offered that, I'd stop coming to this sub-forum.

.

My Long time Fav Massage place at bugis area no more, the old birds will know which MP. Plus with food and refreshment and big lounge to relax before or after massage.

And service wise is top notch, really miss the old times.

[stansmith60]

Those old HCs like Bugis were tax havens. Tough for IRAS to track real revenue cos no one knew how much the WLs actually took in. Only basic wages were declared but money earned from fj, bj, hj slipped through the cracks. That's why tilll this day handjob is considered illegal, not because its morally reprehensible, although some people will argue it is, but more revenue earned is hard to track. The spas today try to circumvent it by coming up with some paralegal stuff called prostate massage lol. Done properly, it's actually zhua gen, but those WLs I have tried so far don't dare to jerk me off.

[retepoet]

Leisure Drome Spa once upon a time was damn good those days............;)




The MP scene has gotten progressively worse over the last several years. I still miss the days of the big super nice spas where you could watch TV, eat food and chill in the hot tub and then get a great massage with extras.

Nowadays....a good ML that also gives a legit massage is rare and any that give good massages tend to be ugly or at least not hot

With these raids...might as well just go to Geylang legal houses as same price and just as hot. Still miss getting a good massage followed by a release tho. If Geylang houses offered that, I'd stop coming to this sub-forum.

.

[retepoet]

u sounded more like an AV officer from another planet, pls dun bullshit here lah :D:D



Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

[aDeCaLs]

doesn't matter, the name in the book is for references purposes, important thing is IC no

Thanks for the info!

[newyorker88]

u sounded more like an AV officer from another planet, pls dun bullshit here lah

Hahahaha, really funny

[MISSI]

walan. AV officer from a planet named KLIP-TON :eek:

u sounded more like an AV officer from another planet, pls dun bullshit here lah :D:D

Btw av officers will check ml wechat,sms, and whatsapp for those client conversation too.av officere will call their customer wives or ml husbands to say they have evidence that yr husband or those ml wife have sth gg on

Another evidence to catch bros and ml.

[Danevil]

Just In: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/2-arrested-in-police-raids-at-lavender-street-jalan-besar-8928914?cid=FBcna

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[ahhui]

[QUOTE=Danevil;16033403]
Av officer lowly paid.i wun even step into a dog job.

[leonleonli]

Just In: http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/2-arrested-in-police-raids-at-lavender-street-jalan-besar-8928914?cid=FBcna

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:eek:only 2 arrested...SPF working to hard but only 2. tax payers would need to pay SPF more. There are so many MPs..one shopping center is already more than 12!

[m00dyb0i]

SINGAPORE: Two women were arrested when the police raided massage parlours in Lavender Street and Jalan Besar in a two-day operation, the Singapore Police Force said on Thursday (Jun 8).
The women, aged 29 and 46, were arrested for offences under the Women’s Charter the police said. Massage beds, shower cubicles and other paraphernalia were seized from the outlets.

A total of 18 women from five massage parlours were checked in the raids on Wednesday and Thursday.

Actions will be taken against the five outlets for offences under the Massage Establishments Act, the police said, adding that investigations against the suspects are ongoing.
The operation is part of ongoing enforcement efforts to clamp down on illicit activities, Assistant Commissioner of Police Arthur Law said.


Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/2-arrested-in-police-raids-at-lavender-street-jalan-besar-8928914

[m00dyb0i]

:eek:only 2 arrested...SPF working to hard but only 2. tax payers would need to pay SPF more. There are so many MPs..one shopping center is already more than 12!

Maybe only 2 in action at that moment, that's y only arrested 2.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

lol but no special :(

if go strictly to relax and have good msg still ok...once a while also need to take break from hanky panky msg..:p

[strikeback4]

if go strictly to relax and have good msg still ok...once a while also need to take break from hanky panky msg..:p

lol i don't like the feeling of can see but cannot touch :(

[matey1982]

The wind still blowing strong even in this heat

Liddat gotta lay Low first sia

[SAFFRONnation]

Agreed bro. Once a while treat yourself to a GOOD CLEAN no-nonsense massage. It is refreshing 👍

if go strictly to relax and have good msg still ok...once a while also need to take break from hanky panky msg..:p

[uwtf]

[QUOTE=Danevil;16033403]
Av officer lowly paid.i wun even step into a dog job.

Who said so DAC Arthur LAW Kok Leong (CO Central Div) he should be very well pay.Operations stop talk to media talk till big big can Liao.After so Long than take action so what for apply for Licence ha ha ha

[sionglim]

The MP scene has gotten progressively worse over the last several years. I still miss the days of the big super nice spas where you could watch TV, eat food and chill in the hot tub and then get a great massage with extras.

Nowadays....a good ML that also gives a legit massage is rare and any that give good massages tend to be ugly or at least not hot

With these raids...might as well just go to Geylang legal houses as same price and just as hot. Still miss getting a good massage followed by a release tho. If Geylang houses offered that, I'd stop coming to this sub-forum.

.

in the past those are kopi tiam ktv towkay open
Masg shop.

Easy money must come from some where.

[ahhui]

nowadays massage are stupid prostrate massage which is a rip off or tell u sign packages and have to be aware of neighbourhood shops or ladies who walk past the massage shop and saboh when see guys walk in

av raid are strong!

[ahhui]

A total of 15 massage parlours were checked during three days of police operations which began on Wednesday.
Advertisement

Six women were arrested in Little India on Wednesday. Checks were also conducted that same day in Bukit Batok and on Thursday in Clementi but no one was arrested.

The police said the operations are part of efforts to ensure that massage establishments adhere to the rules and conditions of their licences.
"The police take a serious view against massage establishments that contravene the provisions under the Massage Establishments Act," it said.

Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/3-women-arrested-on-third-day-of-police-raid-on-massage-parlours-8803742

[chukeliang]

prostrate wat dat??

[Devore]

in the past those are kopi tiam ktv towkay open
Masg shop.

Easy money must come from some where.

Usually in the past, these KTVs, MPs, plus those football clubs in GL land are opened by the Ah Longs.

The once famous M KTV and M3 KTV is open by also once famous Ah Long san.

Now GL land is like overrun by the PLA.

[newyorker88]

Usually in the past, these KTVs, MPs, plus those football clubs in GL land are opened by the Ah Longs.

The once famous M KTV and M3 KTV is open by also once famous Ah Long san.

Now GL land is like overrun by the PLA.

You mean Geylang KTV n other vice related business are taken over by Ah Tiong?

[Vigilant42]

lol i don't like the feeling of can see but cannot touch :(

Dear bro,

agreed with you. wise man think alike.

Cheers

Regards,
Vigilant42

[ahhui]

some ladies passerby will saboh to av when see guys walk in mp too.

as told by ML. risky nowadays

[Devore]

You mean Geylang KTV n other vice related business are taken over by Ah Tiong?

Been a while didn't go to GL area. From my understanding, plenty of PRC MPs and FL in condo nearby. During my time, PRC ladies already invading KTVs in the area. Slowly those malaysian disappeared.

Now at most go nearby eat durian or eat dim sum. Already see the area flood with PRCs.

[chukeliang]

some ladies passerby will saboh to av when see guys walk in mp too.

as told by ML. risky nowadays

Their son and bro married to china gals and
Born babies.
Stupid
More stupid let china gals divorce their bros,and sons.
Ppc china auntie, whole day tok about divorcing
Their husbands.

[leonleonli]

Of course, PRC FL business model, divorce can get their husbands half of their wealth, finding fault on their husbands!

Their son and bro married to china gals and
Born babies.
Stupid
More stupid let china gals divorce their bros,and sons.
Ppc china auntie, whole day tok about divorcing
Their husbands.

[Keima]

So many eyeballs now on SBF, still got ppl deliberately post threads with address big big.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-demand-and-supply-fuelling-singapore-s-premium-foreign-sex-8932204

[8898108]

So many eyeballs now on SBF, still got ppl deliberately post threads with address big big.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-demand-and-supply-fuelling-singapore-s-premium-foreign-sex-8932204
All these media now like follow the trend or instruction from gov
All come out with some report about vice activity in the past few months.
Gonna takes a Long time to quiet down... haiz

[GR888]

So many eyeballs now on SBF, still got ppl deliberately post threads with address big big.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-demand-and-supply-fuelling-singapore-s-premium-foreign-sex-8932204

I suspect some are deliberate sabo cases.
But most are kumgong samsters who behave as though AV & reporters donch exist, lol!
Many come here wif pussies in their heads & display stupidity beyond comprehension.
I've seen these samsters openly boast their sexploits at Jln Sultan, Fortune Centre & Adelphi with plenty of juicy & incriminating details thrown in for added bragging rights.
Then when the hammer came down hard on these places, the same samsters bemoan the loss of these joints & crawl to the lost & found thread in forlorn hope of reconnecting with their gems.
People here really never learn.
Soon we will see history repeat itself once again when Parklane gets uprooted for good.
People just dont understand that this is SG.
These places exist because our authorities tolerate it.
But when things get out if hand, they can easily wipe it clean for good.
Just look at all the health centres... consigned to the dustbin of cheonging history.

[strikeback4]

So many eyeballs now on SBF, still got ppl deliberately post threads with address big big.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-demand-and-supply-fuelling-singapore-s-premium-foreign-sex-8932204

again talk about SBF... CNA not sian ah? :rolleyes:

[GR888]

again talk about SBF... CNA not sian ah? :rolleyes:

To shift attention frm all the recent public transport woes mah :D

[strikeback4]

To shift attention frm all the recent public transport woes mah :D

ya quite true, mrt break down i think 4 times this week and they never report... its only those kpkb on facebook than peopl know about it....

On the other hand they keep talking about SBF over and over again... whatever i see CNA news about it... its always the same story... no change at all.... they just add only recent raid story... than bla bla supply and demand crap... :rolleyes:

[afterburn]

ya quite true, mrt break down i think 4 times this week and they never report... its only those kpkb on facebook than peopl know about it....

On the other hand they keep talking about SBF over and over again... whatever i see CNA news about it... its always the same story... no change at all.... they just add only recent raid story... than bla bla supply and demand crap... :rolleyes:

Basically there are things to report but the journalists are not allowed to publicize those issues. Then how to fill up the newspaper? Recycle sensational stories of course.

They are helping to promote SBF actually. Read what that guy said in the article! He started chionging after reading about this forum in the straits times.

[GR888]

ya quite true, mrt break down i think 4 times this week and they never report... its only those kpkb on facebook than peopl know about it....

On the other hand they keep talking about SBF over and over again... whatever i see CNA news about it... its always the same story... no change at all.... they just add only recent raid story... than bla bla supply and demand crap... :rolleyes:

Our gahmen's pattern is very predictable.
Whole system run by scholars... and it ain't difficult to dissect their thots & understand their modus operandi, lol!

[Spitfires]

Hi bro. Newbie here. Just wondering where still got those clean join where got food, massage, pool and spent whole day de.. the last i know was bt timah, balmoral.. but think there no more le.

[aDeCaLs]

So many eyeballs now on SBF, still got ppl deliberately post threads with address big big.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/the-demand-and-supply-fuelling-singapore-s-premium-foreign-sex-8932204

POS reporting again. Simi headline...
Which industry is not fuel by supply and demand.
Reporter sibei cock at talking cock.

[Bonjovi111]

I think one more place kena raid ahhh...place at duxton rd, when there the staircase no lights. Close shop lor. So sad

[Flamingiant]

Maybe borowing toilet is their new techniques. Heard frm one buddy there was once a guy went to the shop and borrow toilet after which they rejected he went out and made a phone call. Super suspicious. after tt got raid or not no idea alr.

[strikeback4]

Basically there are things to report but the journalists are not allowed to publicize those issues. Then how to fill up the newspaper? Recycle sensational stories of course.

They are helping to promote SBF actually. Read what that guy said in the article! He started chionging after reading about this forum in the straits times.

That is why Reporters Without Borders ranked them 153 out of 180 countries in the Press Freedom Index :rolleyes:

[strikeback4]

Our gahmen's pattern is very predictable.
Whole system run by scholars... and it ain't difficult to dissect their thots & understand their modus operandi, lol!

try to hide news that is damaging to their image, at the same time attack the opposition :rolleyes:

remind me of the 3rd party scandal where they constantly attack Yaw Shin Leong and WP, while when it comes to Micheal Palmer and David Ong, they will tell everyone to move on :rolleyes:

[sionglim]

thk for new update

[MayMassage]

Recently Lavendar area raided.

Looks like these places are getting greedy and hence get in to trouble.

Lots of them on wechat with photos and addresses obvious to all.

Bukit Batok, McPherson, Paya Lebar, Lavendar all in trouble already.

Now left is Serangoon, Hoougan, Kovan, AMK, Sembawang, Yishun area

Bros its best to be low during this period. Anyway PRC girls are going too over board and getting into trouble. Sucking out money from Singapore to china

[Devore]

I suspect some are deliberate sabo cases.
But most are kumgong samsters who behave as though AV & reporters donch exist, lol!
Many come here wif pussies in their heads & display stupidity beyond comprehension.
I've seen these samsters openly boast their sexploits at Jln Sultan, Fortune Centre & Adelphi with plenty of juicy & incriminating details thrown in for added bragging rights.
Then when the hammer came down hard on these places, the same samsters bemoan the loss of these joints & crawl to the lost & found thread in forlorn hope of reconnecting with their gems.
People here really never learn.
Soon we will see history repeat itself once again when Parklane gets uprooted for good.
People just dont understand that this is SG.
These places exist because our authorities tolerate it.
But when things get out if hand, they can easily wipe it clean for good.
Just look at all the health centres... consigned to the dustbin of cheonging history.

In any case, they wont sweep so thoroughly. This industry been around for so long since the beginning of mankind. If they clean too much, rape cases will rise up and even more problematic for them.

What they doing now is bit on wayang side, people complaint they go visit. Reporter put up report, they go visit. More towards reactive than proactive.

The raids in NBR area is that really too much these small MPs popping up some with bright bright neon lights. Which is more like a brothel than MP.

[strikeback4]

In any case, they wont sweep so thoroughly. This industry been around for so long since the beginning of mankind. If they clean too much, rape cases will rise up and even more problematic for them.

What they doing now is bit on wayang side, people complaint they go visit. Reporter put up report, they go visit. More towards reactive than proactive.

The raids in NBR area is that really too much these small MPs popping up some with bright bright neon lights. Which is more like a brothel than MP.

Even if the police catch every single one of them now, more will pop up in the near future as this is a very lucrative trade....

As long as you can earn lots of money, everyone will be eager to start a new venture... especially if the police catch too much and left a vacuum for them to exploit :rolleyes:

[afterburn]

It's not just because it is a lucrative trade. IMHO the people who are involved in running shady businesses, they often have no other good avenues to turn to. Maybe lack of qualifications or have criminal record - doors are closed.

So it's a never-ending cycle.

[afterburn]

In any case, they wont sweep so thoroughly. This industry been around for so long since the beginning of mankind. If they clean too much, rape cases will rise up and even more problematic for them. ...



Won't happen lah. Majority of people who go for this type of entertainment, be it with ML or FL or WL, are pretty decent normal guys who just have to fulfill their needs and won't go to the extent of rape.

Not sexual deviants or perverts as the media or women's groups or other ignorant parts of society would have you believe.

[floriangray]

here, here. well said and so true.

Even if the police catch every single one of them now, more will pop up in the near future as this is a very lucrative trade....

As long as you can earn lots of money, everyone will be eager to start a new venture... especially if the police catch too much and left a vacuum for them to exploit :rolleyes:

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Agreed bro. Once a while treat yourself to a GOOD CLEAN no-nonsense massage. It is refreshing 👍

some time i go boon lay those thai msg, same dmg $50 but real solid hard msg...of course can't expect anything in terms of facilities..but in terms of msg value you get what you pay..

[HonkyTonkyMan]

Even if the police catch every single one of them now, more will pop up in the near future as this is a very lucrative trade....

As long as you can earn lots of money, everyone will be eager to start a new venture... especially if the police catch too much and left a vacuum for them to exploit :rolleyes:

yup its all a cycle, the early 80s we had thai pros flooding "ang teng" clifford pier..90s we had all these "or po leh" black glass hair salon, in the new millennium was the invasion of the red army then now its all these so call spa etc...sex industry is one you can't keep down...operators will just keep coming with new innovative ways to serve our insatiable appetite for it..

[HonkyTonkyMan]

If you can remember the black glass saloons in Golden landmark,all Malaysians & locals, just go in to cubicle like fast food , do hj for $20 & leave. A lot of SYT also..

yup cheap thrill....but same like those spas, all fell in one swoop..

[strikeback4]

yup its all a cycle, the early 80s we had thai pros flooding "ang teng" clifford pier..90s we had all these "or po leh" black glass hair salon, in the new millennium was the invasion of the red army then now its all these so call spa etc...sex industry is one you can't keep down...operators will just keep coming with new innovative ways to serve our insatiable appetite for it..

prostitution is one of the oldest trade in the world, no way they can remove it :rolleyes:

[Spitfires]

Hi bro, any MP has those facilities. Like pool, sauna room, lounge room to watch tv, old can order food.

Use to like lexon in BT timah..

[ahhui]

heartland mp area. neighbour shops aunties staffs and ladies who walk past saw guys going in will saboh the shop also.
ml told me they always kena saboh by passer-by ladies.

[chukeliang]

Those old HCs like Bugis were tax havens. Tough for IRAS to track real revenue cos no one knew how much the WLs actually took in. Only basic wages were declared but money earned from fj, bj, hj slipped through the cracks. That's why tilll this day handjob is considered illegal, not because its morally reprehensible, although some people will argue it is, but more revenue earned is hard to track. The spas today try to circumvent it by coming up with some paralegal stuff called prostate massage lol. Done properly, it's actually zhua gen, but those WLs I have tried so far don't dare to jerk me off.
tax man must raid bugis?

[GR888]

In any case, they wont sweep so thoroughly. This industry been around for so long since the beginning of mankind. If they clean too much, rape cases will rise up and even more problematic for them.

What they doing now is bit on wayang side, people complaint they go visit. Reporter put up report, they go visit. More towards reactive than proactive.

The raids in NBR area is that really too much these small MPs popping up some with bright bright neon lights. Which is more like a brothel than MP.

Yup, exactly my point. The authorities can sweep & uproot everything if they want to. After all, it's the authorities who grant licences. But they also know the realities & consequences if they were to completely eradicate all such activities.

There is always a trigger point. Raids occur when things really get out of hand, which is the case in NBR & many other areas recently. Same situation with the health centres in the recent past.

[Devore]

Yup, exactly my point. The authorities can sweep & uproot everything if they want to. After all, it's the authorities who grant licences. But they also know the realities & consequences if they were to completely eradicate all such activities.

There is always a trigger point. Raids occur when things really get out of hand, which is the case in NBR & many other areas recently. Same situation with the health centres in the recent past.

Still remember the times before these MPs disguise as SPA (Spa license easier to get than pure massage license), where plenty of tuina shops springing up in neighborhood area. Same cycle, in one swoop, almost all these tuina shops gone and now come the TCM clinics.

[MayMassage]

Probably a competitor

[aang1971]

heard a series of raid plan for today

[BBBJLOVER]

heard a series of raid plan for today

Sunday also raid ?...😵😵

[Jonathanyew]

heard a series of raid plan for today

Today raid where?

[SAFFRONnation]

very insightful - Honky +42 missiles to you :D

Good Historical trail of our cheonging scene over last few decades :)

yup its all a cycle, the early 80s we had thai pros flooding "ang teng" clifford pier..90s we had all these "or po leh" black glass hair salon, in the new millennium was the invasion of the red army then now its all these so call spa etc...sex industry is one you can't keep down...operators will just keep coming with new innovative ways to serve our insatiable appetite for it..

[aDeCaLs]

Probably a competitor

Looks like many competitors slugging it out in this forum. :(

[strikeback4]

So many cowards in SBF :D:D

Thanks AV for keeping our island clean :D

keep up the good work :rolleyes:

[MayMassage]

Hope no raid in Serangoon Garden.

Serangoon Garden is recently very active now

[chukeliang]

8 Spa

279 Outram Road

#01-01

Singapore 169066

Tel : 6221 5626
clean spa ,gals wear jean, n t shirt uniform

must say by ng jun xian?

[Herebeautie]

8 spa

279 outram road

#01-01

singapore 169066

tel : 6221 5626

say intro by ng jun xian?

Anti-Vice on their way :D

[ahhui]

Nowadays Daytime ml will not do special hj as they are holding pr or citizenship with young family. Why risk to go back for a hj 50 bucks and sacrifice their kids and house here.

[leonleonli]

Anti-Vice on their way :D

Not sure AV will happen, as so much publicity recently, many businesses are as usual, specially those in shopping centers, still can fool around. :)

[ahhui]

Not sure AV will happen, as so much publicity recently, many businesses are as usual, specially those in shopping centers, still can fool around. :)

Even daytime massage no actions nowadays. If ml ladies got caught.their husbands and children will know which I believe dun waste time at these mp

[Herebeautie]

Hope no raid in Serangoon Garden.

Serangoon Garden is recently very active now

Is it these 3 Spas? J&J WELLNESS SPA, 68A Serangoon Garden Way, Singapore 555964, ORGANIC SPA, 77A Serangoon Garden Way, Singapore 555973 and Q SPA, 28A Maju Avenue, Singapore 556698.

[leonleonli]

Even daytime massage no actions nowadays. If ml ladies got caught.their husbands and children will know which I believe dun waste time at these mp

Well, ML FL would not care but money. Many divorce many kids still small.

[fastfoot]

Looks like many competitors slugging it out in this forum. :(

I noticed that too . However seemed some buildings are not mentioned .

[chukeliang]

Even daytime massage no actions nowadays. If ml ladies got caught.their husbands and children will know which I believe dun waste time at these mp

their husbands chiong ppl park, saw their wives working there .
the wives said work as beautician only.
....
a husband open a clean masg shop for his china wife to work.
only as supervisor .

[chukeliang]

Nowadays Daytime ml will not do special hj as they are holding pr or citizenship with young family. Why risk to go back for a hj 50 bucks and sacrifice their kids and house here.

just do masg get caught too, no masg licence,bed carted away
as court exhibits.
now raid n check is to get rid prc do masg. without licence.
if hj boss kenna charge.

[fei2012]

just do masg get caught too, no masg licence,bed carted away
as court exhibits.
now raid n check is to get rid prc do masg. without licence.
if hj boss kenna charge.
Heard they also targeting black listed 'tua peh kong' with many shops.
Even with license & no evidence of +++service during raid, beds, towels, counter table & shower cubicles...etc etc also kena up lorry:eek:

[Devore]

Heard they also targeting black listed 'tua peh kong' with many shops.
Even with license & no evidence of +++service during raid, beds, towels, counter table & shower cubicles...etc etc also kena up lorry:eek:

Don't think they can seize the properties without valid reason. usually is unlicensed MPs, they will seize as evidence. Proper licensed shop and during checks, nothing illegal going on, they have no reason to seize the properties.

[chukeliang]

Don't think they can seize the properties without valid reason. usually is unlicensed MPs, they will seize as evidence. Proper licensed shop and during checks, nothing illegal going on, they have no reason to seize the properties.

licenced shop, further checks..
gal no wear uniform?
short pants revealing butt. cheek.

[smith.zxcv77]

Is it these 3 Spas? J&J WELLNESS SPA, 68A Serangoon Garden Way, Singapore 555964, ORGANIC SPA, 77A Serangoon Garden Way, Singapore 555973 and Q SPA, 28A Maju Avenue, Singapore 556698.

is Q spa still operating? what about the boss plus masseur Jennifer, linda ...too far for me so didn't go.

[exc11hatch]

heartland mp area. neighbour shops aunties staffs and ladies who walk past saw guys going in will saboh the shop also.
ml told me they always kena saboh by passer-by ladies.

With your reputation ..who would believe you.

[Perfectbeauty]

Grand Spa, 14 Liang Seah Street

Singapore 189035

[SUNRISERYOKO]

2 UPP Devore comments - much TRUTH be told :)

Don't think they can seize the properties without valid reason. usually is unlicensed MPs, they will seize as evidence. Proper licensed shop and during checks, nothing illegal going on, they have no reason to seize the properties.

[strikeback4]

Don't think they can seize the properties without valid reason. usually is unlicensed MPs, they will seize as evidence. Proper licensed shop and during checks, nothing illegal going on, they have no reason to seize the properties.

MP got alot of stupid rules and regulations, they can say you break any of the rules and will penalise you....

I just learn from 1 clean MP that they was brief that every morning must tell the staff not to provide special.... no condom and lubricant....

And worst, for a 1 hr session, the MP supervisor must enter the room and spot check twice which I find it stupid if it will true....

[rey69]

Those old HCs like Bugis were tax havens. Tough for IRAS to track real revenue cos no one knew how much the WLs actually took in. Only basic wages were declared but money earned from fj, bj, hj slipped through the cracks. That's why tilll this day handjob is considered illegal, not because its morally reprehensible, although some people will argue it is, but more revenue earned is hard to track. The spas today try to circumvent it by coming up with some paralegal stuff called prostate massage lol. Done properly, it's actually zhua gen, but those WLs I have tried so far don't dare to jerk me off.

Just back fom Amsterdam, the prostitutes there also need to pay tax recently.
They are legit & protected by police.
Sg should follow their model.
Sex tourism attracts not only men....

[Joshingg]

Grand Spa, 14 Liang Seah Street

Singapore 189035

[MayMassage]

recently saw a few shops along lavendar street raided and shutdown, today one of the shop opened again, probably their offence was not serious.
But looks like RS in Clementi is gone for ever - will there be any impact on RS AMK?

Is Hougang, AMK, Serangoon, Kovan being targeted now, or just bcos it is AMK old matured estate they close one eye?

[Devore]

MP got alot of stupid rules and regulations, they can say you break any of the rules and will penalise you....

I just learn from 1 clean MP that they was brief that every morning must tell the staff not to provide special.... no condom and lubricant....

And worst, for a 1 hr session, the MP supervisor must enter the room and spot check twice which I find it stupid if it will true....

Really it depends on the purpose of the raid/check, if based on tip-off, you will see them quite regularly. If routine checks, nothing much will happen if there are no illegal activities.

As there are different class of license for MPs, one type cannot open near neighbourhood area or near school. The other can operate in neighbourhood area but limited to shophouse setup.

As for those roll calls and such, some clean SPA may have such rules or policy to reinforce dos and nots to the staff.

[Devore]

recently saw a few shops along lavendar street raided and shutdown, today one of the shop opened again, probably their offence was not serious.
But looks like RS in Clementi is gone for ever - will there be any impact on RS AMK?

Is Hougang, AMK, Serangoon, Kovan being targeted now, or just bcos it is AMK old matured estate they close one eye?

Once suspend, unlikely to reopen. Even the place reopen, it will under a different name. One of the requisite to apply for the license must be registered under the case trust.

[sionglim]

Just back fom Amsterdam, the prostitutes there also need to pay tax recently.
They are legit & protected by police.
Sg should follow their model.
Sex tourism attracts not only men....

the brothel keep a account book??
Or like spore hawkers, self declare the income level?

[sionglim]

MP got alot of stupid rules and regulations, they can say you break any of the rules and will penalise you....

I just learn from 1 clean MP that they was brief that every morning must tell the staff not to provide special.... no condom and lubricant....

And worst, for a 1 hr session, the MP supervisor must enter the room and spot check twice which I find it stupid if it will true....

every morning tell??
Already a norm, sign a letter , one k deposite fee.
For the masg joint.
Many hc did that last time.

[sionglim]

MP got alot of stupid rules and regulations, they can say you break any of the rules and will penalise you....

I just learn from 1 clean MP that they was brief that every morning must tell the staff not to provide special.... no condom and lubricant....

And worst, for a 1 hr session, the MP supervisor must enter the room and spot check twice which I find it stupid if it will true....

masg shop more stupid.
I ask hj ,
aftr the sup visited twice.

[Kirinspa]

Grand Spa, 14 Liang Seah Street

Singapore 189035

FULL SERVICES Here quite expensive ranging from $120-$180 but girls playablilty quite high, managed to have threesome with two mls just that need to pay for four hands massage at the counter.

[Keima]

FULL SERVICES Here...

Well too bad you like this joint, because you just sabo'ed it :confused:

[matey1982]

FULL SERVICES Here quite expensive ranging from $120-$180 but girls playablilty quite high, managed to have threesome with two mls just that need to pay for four hands massage at the counter.

by putting it so big, u literally kill it off bro

[ahhui]

i read some letters from massage bosses.

HDB has send out letters recently and stated they will evict back the shophse unit if ml caught for hj services.
and yes.they can penalise the owner and boss of the shop which have alot recurring troubles.

ml these days dun dare to risk hj service

[johnleee]

FULL SERVICES Here

This thread has served its usefulness and is now becoming a place where people are just saboing competitor spas. I mean, come on, doesn't take 2 brain cells to notice that certain spas are being blemished while other threads with pictures of SYT girls - most work in TCMs or Spas - are untouched.

So many new users here too: kirinspa, perfectbeauty, joshingg, ngjunxian, sexypenis, etc. All sabo spas around jurong, bugis, just visit spa fb page, choose a few names or services and then point out they got anal, gangbang and orgies in the spas, with drugs, gay sex and donkey sex all thrown in for $50?

Sign me up!

[BigShintaro]

Self destructing!

[36908]

recently saw a few shops along lavendar street raided and shutdown, today one of the shop opened again, probably their offence was not serious.
But looks like RS in Clementi is gone for ever - will there be any impact on RS AMK?

Is Hougang, AMK, Serangoon, Kovan being targeted now, or just bcos it is AMK old matured estate they close one eye?

RS not affiliated under different management ... Very heavy advistising though ... Everyday pm me ... 18% promo lmao.

[HonkyTonkyMan]

the brothel keep a account book??
Or like spore hawkers, self declare the income level?

AV don't collect tax from legal brothels, cos this is considered immoral earnings so if doing so it would make the gov no dif from a OKT..

[boomerangarang]

This thread has served its usefulness and is now becoming a place where people are just saboing competitor spas. I mean, come on, doesn't take 2 brain cells to notice that certain spas are being blemished while other threads with pictures of SYT girls - most work in TCMs or Spas - are untouched.

So many new users here too: kirinspa, perfectbeauty, joshingg, ngjunxian, sexypenis, etc. All sabo spas around jurong, bugis, just visit spa fb page, choose a few names or services and then point out they got anal, gangbang and orgies in the spas, with drugs, gay sex and donkey sex all thrown in for $50?

Sign me up!

Agreed. Why must they resort to mudslinging? Improve services of own spa. Then business will come. No need to Sabo others.

[SAFFRONnation]

Spore AV could well be collecting taxes from prostitutes in no time.....good learning from best Dutch Practices :)

the brothel keep a account book??
Or like spore hawkers, self declare the income level?

Just back fom Amsterdam, the prostitutes there also need to pay tax recently.
They are legit & protected by police.
Sg should follow their model.
Sex tourism attracts not only men....

[CryingFreeMan]

Agreed. Why must they resort to mudslinging? Improve services of own spa. Then business will come. No need to Sabo others.

Agreed. Just improve services of own spa. No need to sabo others.

[Keima]

So many new users here too: kirinspa, perfectbeauty, joshingg, ngjunxian, sexypenis, etc. All sabo spas around jurong, bugis, just visit spa fb page, choose a few names or services and then point out they got anal, gangbang and orgies in the spas, with drugs, gay sex and donkey sex all thrown in for $50?

Sign me up!

Most of the nicks you highlighted recently got banned. Reckon it was one or two guys using clone accounts.

[Gold69luck]

Most of the nicks you highlighted recently got banned. Reckon it was one or two guys using clone accounts.

I heard all started out from one of the Spa boss in the West.

[Keima]

Wahaha. The red big fonts look very familiar... ...

I got an unpleasant pm, so let me repeat some of my reply here.

I'm not a clone and I only have one account on SBF.

I'm not an OKT, Spa owner etc.

I'm a normal SBF member who like everyone else here looks for a good massage. The last few months some of the joints I've been to have been sabo'ed on SBF and raided. So I'm pissed - some of my favourite MLs have disappeared. :mad:

I'm also paying Premium to help support this forum so other bros can find their enjoyment the normal way, like I do. Oh and that makes me zap proof.

[apache]

no matter what, we all need to release. impossible to clamp down on everyone.

but we need to know how to protect ourselves as we have certain rights during the raids

[M0ntblanc]

You all left out one more nick weiweikeke lol.. another competitor or joker...

I been keeping quiet all this time seeing shows of so many people sabo One another :p

Btw keima say is quite true too bad I never got the chance to Chiong hc with you :D

[strikeback4]

dude get a life, you post 1 time its ok... you keep posting the same thing over and over again its very irriating :mad:

[Sfan]

dude get a life, you post 1 time its ok... you keep posting the same thing over and over again its very irriating :mad:

If you look through his posts, almost every post is "bro can share contact "

Wtf

[Sfan]

Grand Spa, 14 Liang Seah Street
Kelly, Seline, Angel, Wendy, Anna, Yumi, July, Sha Sha, Kimi and many more provide good BBBJ and FJ to all clients
Singapore 189035

I bet you're angry cos you didn't get any. Lol

[newyorker88]

He sabo or what? Post so many times, trying to get av attention also not this way

[Keima]

He sabo or what? Post so many times, trying to get av attention also not this way

Just ignore as the mods will take down the post (or thread). This cloner is being super obvious with account names and pms so take it with a pinch of salt.

[Sfan]

Just ignore as the mods will take down the post (or thread). This cloner is being super obvious with account names and pms so take it with a pinch of salt.

I'm gonna upz you bro. Got to wait awhile though

[Keima]

I'm gonna upz you bro. Got to wait awhile though

Thanks! As well as to the other Bros who upped me. I really got no issue with ppl promoting their own place, etc. But using these kind of tactics to frighten Bros n get MLs who are working hard to make money into trouble is too much lei. Cheong safe n enjoy!

[megasmellycunt7]

This used to be a thread that we samsters help one another and have served its usefulness but now it have became a place where competitors are fighting among themselves and hope one gets into trouble first. Dissappointed to see how realistic some bosses are.

[wonderwhy]

This whole damn raid thingy is turning overboard and seriously scaring everyone.

Bros get poor quick service. Girls earn less

That day I was at my usual haunt.

A new girl came. She said can make love with the sphag and bra on? Just like show boobs. Initially said can just lift the skirt remove panties and do it. Seriously?

Wtf man. Say her boss scared av raid cause alot.of sabo cases now

Get a life for those who just want to put fake news and scare everyone

I rolled my eyes and told the girl if so scared forget it. I go elsewhere. And she took it all off.

[johnleee]

Kirispa, Joshingg, perfectbeauty, Benjaminleeck and sexypenis and some other nicks who are still at large are clones of a jealous competitor. He is out to destroy a legal joint by sabo-ing it. This boss of ex-Hara Massage BB & Tanglin SC joints is very evil and unscrupulous. His joints have been busted by AV and hence came in here to create havoc. Karma would befall him soon. This fella is very naive that he thought AV reading this would believe what he and his clones said here. Discerning samsters would know who is the primary account (ie. Harabeautie) of these clones

[COLOR="Red"]FYI - kirispa, Joshingg, benjaminleeck, perfectbeauty and sexypenis have been banned by SBF as these are clones. Jeremygrandspa confirmed is a clone of Harabeautie and will be eradicated soon. Prolly Harawellness too but this nick is not banned yet as it is still in moderation as a new samster.[/COLOR

Enjoy! :D

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25171/25171819e5675f99a38165fea66e1a384f341657.jpg (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=25171819&showlnk=0)
And obviously Jeremygrandspa is not happy that the conversation here has turned into a clone CSI.

I liked hara massage and four seasons, didn't know they are same boss. pity about them being shut down cos they are regulars for me.

[strikeback4]

the MP scene is worst than dome 1

Dome 1 is other stables sabo each other behind their backs

Now the MP scene is want to sabo via AV and keep spamming on SBF to inform / irritate other samsters....

[strikeback4]

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25171/25171819e5675f99a38165fea66e1a384f341657.jpg (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=25171819&showlnk=0)
And obviously Jeremygrandspa is not happy that the conversation here has turned into a clone CSI.

I liked hara massage and four seasons, didn't know they are same boss. pity about them being shut down cos they are regulars for me.

I also got a msg from this cute little fucker :rolleyes:
102235

[Keima]

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25171/25171819e5675f99a38165fea66e1a384f341657.jpg (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=25171819&showlnk=0)
And obviously Jeremygrandspa is not happy that the conversation here has turned into a clone CSI.

I liked hara massage and four seasons, didn't know they are same boss. pity about them being shut down cos they are regulars for me.

After pm other Bros I realise they kanna the same cut n paste PMs like u. It's deliberate agitation, that's why I reckon now best to cool it n let mod delete thread n ban the clones.

[MayMassage]

Any bro try J&J SPA?

They seem to be very active and 24 hours wechat presence.

I heard too many girls joined recently and have variety of service and the doors have lock, is it legal to have locks in the door?

[johnleee]

After pm other Bros I realise they kanna the same cut n paste PMs like u. It's deliberate agitation, that's why I reckon now best to cool it n let mod delete thread n ban the clones.

Yeah got this one from Daniel567 threatening to report me. Ooo.

https://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25171/25171867cf1b3a102d74e41b8336d29ae6797601.jpg (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=25171867&showlnk=0)

[M0ntblanc]

Anyone can explain the picture posted of the group who is the boss or what's the purpose of the picture? Lol I see the picture but catch no balls

[sionglim]

boss make sure no hj, no xtra,
Every thing is ok, raid ,nothing found,all is ok.

[newyorker88]

https://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/25171/25171819e5675f99a38165fea66e1a384f341657.jpg (https://www.uploadhouse.com/viewfile.php?id=25171819&showlnk=0)
And obviously Jeremygrandspa is not happy that the conversation here has turned into a clone CSI.

I liked hara massage and four seasons, didn't know they are same boss. pity about them being shut down cos they are regulars for me.



Yup, this Jia Liao bee grandspa wrote this PM to me

Fuck off
Hey fucker mind your words, who the fuck are you? Do you own SBF? I will report you to the boss and ban you for troublemaking asshole, study before you surf sammyboy retard.


Sad fella, probably his business got raid, now trying to sabo others😁

[Devore]

These posts become too obvious that it is out to sabo. should just ignore them.

[Sfan]

The Malay owner of Hara Massage @ Bukit Batok and Four Season at Tanglin SC which were busted recently (because its masseuses offered sexual services) created many clones to sabo all the other spa out of jealousy. Very unethical and unscrupulous. He dared to PM me and used vulgarities against me. I wonder what kinda Muslim is he as he shouldn't be using vulgar words during remandan. Very sinful! :rolleyes:

Now this Malay fella with his Dalian wife just opened another two spa - Kirispa and Hara Wellness. Prolly similar concept as his previous spa. Am sure you guys know what I mean. :p

What strikes me as weird though is, why in particular Grand Spa, he keeps spamming about Grand Spa. Like he has some kind of vendetta against them?

[Sfan]

LOL. Now my turn to get the threatening message. Lol.

[wonderwhy]

Who is daniel567?

Pm me with so much anger. Relax lah

If too much pent up. Go release lah

[strikeback4]

What strikes me as weird though is, why in particular Grand Spa, he keeps spamming about Grand Spa. Like he has some kind of vendetta against them?

Rival spa? Eye red that others are doing well :rolleyes:

[strikeback4]

Who is daniel567?

Pm me with so much anger. Relax lah

If too much pent up. Go release lah

daniel567 / Jeremygrandspa just another disgruntled spa owner that others are doing well and they are not, attacking anyone posting here and at the " Receiving irritating PM from HARA Massage owner"

No balls joker :rolleyes: