Nice guy or Fck boy

[nicktiger]

Im in a dilemma, well most of girl friends would said that im a nice guy. thats what they say yea.

But i dont think i am and i have this idea in mind, lets say if im a nice guy, and potray me as an object, i would be a nice object right, people would want to buy and own me right.

But girls around me tend to like just treat as a friend only and prefer starting a relationship with those boys that even have rumours of cheating on their girlfriend.

I dont know what to do to get the girl that i like to like me, because she seems to be more interested in those guy that would hurt her instead of loving her.

Any advice senior ?

[BuyNewCar]

Buy new car.

New car, condominiums , country clubs , credit cards and cash are what they want

[crazyivan]

old saying bro : " love is blind "

they wont know the diff of how well you can treat a gf or as a girlfriend , its a very diff thing . they will never know unless they start a relationship with you . and i believe you treat all ur exes differently ( diff love level ) due to the way they treat you . its all up to yourself , never allow how others portraits you by the way they look or say about you . girls tend to follow their feelings from their heart , let's say im a girl and i treasure our friendship . i do like you but i dont know if you like me , what if i let you know my feelings but end up you dont like me and we cant be friends anymore ? alot of things to see from my PoV , just my sexperience :)

[cassano10]

https://youtu.be/7AV0NVndt88

This video describe your situation.

[conquer]

Im in a dilemma, well most of girl friends would said that im a nice guy. thats what they say yea.


When a girl says you are a nice guy, that's the sign of not getting laid.

If a girl wanna have sex with you, she would say, "come here, bad boy... lick my pussy." :D

[conquer]

Buy new car.

New car, condominiums , country clubs , credit cards and cash are what they want

I would say this works 100% on PRC girls, 80% on Singaporean girls, 60% on Malaysian girls. :p

[sexcision]

Friendzoned is the word bro.

[JAVgent]

Im in a dilemma, well most of girl friends would said that im a nice guy. thats what they say yea.

But i dont think i am and i have this idea in mind, lets say if im a nice guy, and potray me as an object, i would be a nice object right, people would want to buy and own me right.

But girls around me tend to like just treat as a friend only and prefer starting a relationship with those boys that even have rumours of cheating on their girlfriend.

I dont know what to do to get the girl that i like to like me, because she seems to be more interested in those guy that would hurt her instead of loving her.

Any advice senior ?

nice guy finishes last.. speaking from experience.

For you, one option is to go find a nice girl who likes you more than you like her.. then constantly hope she doesn't get snatched/eaten by the wolves you are talking to here.

The other option is to turn into one of those wolves.

I learnt best option is to have 2 faces... wolf for the girl you like, and nice guy for everyone else.

I am still a nice guy now you know ;)

[arl127]

Go and read the thread, picking up girls in KTV by Warbird. He has done a good narrative points. That should help you.

[lipe]

bro

男人不壞
女人不愛

[yying]

Ultimately I chose the nice guy to spend the rest of my life

For fun, excitement, drama - bad guy
For security, stability, life long partner - nice guy

:)

[seventynine]

Ultimately I chose the nice guy to spend the rest of my life

For fun, excitement, drama - bad guy
For security, stability, life long partner - nice guy

:)

Or find a real-life Dr J and Mr H :D
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dr._Jekyll_and_Mr._Hyde_(character)

[nicktiger]

old saying bro : " love is blind "

they wont know the diff of how well you can treat a gf or as a girlfriend , its a very diff thing . they will never know unless they start a relationship with you . and i believe you treat all ur exes differently ( diff love level ) due to the way they treat you . its all up to yourself , never allow how others portraits you by the way they look or say about you . girls tend to follow their feelings from their heart , let's say im a girl and i treasure our friendship . i do like you but i dont know if you like me , what if i let you know my feelings but end up you dont like me and we cant be friends anymore ? alot of things to see from my PoV , just my sexperience :)

hey bro, thanks for the piece of advice, but im abit confused? i dont get what you really mean. hope you could explain further.

[nicktiger]

nice guy finishes last.. speaking from experience.

For you, one option is to go find a nice girl who likes you more than you like her.. then constantly hope she doesn't get snatched/eaten by the wolves you are talking to here.

The other option is to turn into one of those wolves.

I learnt best option is to have 2 faces... wolf for the girl you like, and nice guy for everyone else.

I am still a nice guy now you know ;)

thanks bro, but i dont agree with any of your options, like option one, im taking advantage of a nice girl and option 2 is a irresponsible act.

[nicktiger]

Go and read the thread, picking up girls in KTV by Warbird. He has done a good narrative points. That should help you.

thanks bro, i will check it out.

[nicktiger]

Ultimately I chose the nice guy to spend the rest of my life

For fun, excitement, drama - bad guy
For security, stability, life long partner - nice guy

:)

hey sis, i dont know what is going on in her mind, she puts real feelings into those fck boys, i dont understand why?

[Moomoofarmer]

Go and read the thread, picking up girls in KTV by Warbird. He has done a good narrative points. That should help you.

Dude tat warbird is full of rubbish. He loads of money to throw at prc gals. Do u know how he look like? He is the true definition of money makes the world goes round. Without of money all d his all called lps will spit at his face. Lol :D

[3someking]

Bad boys finish first. Nice guys finish last.

[1001]

Bad boys finish first. Nice guys finish last.

Thats so true. Bad boys always finish first. ;)

[conquer]

Bad boys finish first. Nice guys finish last.

LOL... so TS gotta wait until the last to pick up the rotten pussy after the bad guys finish enjoying it? :(

[conquer]

hey sis, i dont know what is going on in her mind, she puts real feelings into those fck boys, i dont understand why?

Damn it, you ask question like this, people how to answer. At least give a bit of your background, the girl's background, the bad boy's background, etc. :o

[deludedgal]

hey sis, i dont know what is going on in her mind, she puts real feelings into those fck boys, i dont understand why?

Hmm cos the sex was really good? :o

[Lorres]

nice guy finishes last.. speaking from experience.

For you, one option is to go find a nice girl who likes you more than you like her.. then constantly hope she doesn't get snatched/eaten by the wolves you are talking to here.

The other option is to turn into one of those wolves.

I learnt best option is to have 2 faces... wolf for the girl you like, and nice guy for everyone else.

I am still a nice guy now you know ;)
Nice guys....sometimes don't even get to finish the race! LOL.
Yes, Bro. Never eat and shit in the same place if you are serious about the job in that company.
TS should understand, some girls are wife material, some girls are destined to be girlfriends (and usually the pretty ones).

[JAVgent]

thanks bro, but i dont agree with any of your options, like option one, im taking advantage of a nice girl and option 2 is a irresponsible act.

I understand.. but let me help to break down your problem:

1. you say you are a nice guy
2. you observe that the girl you like like bad guys
3. you conclude you need help to get the girl you like to like you

So what can you do? You need to know what is within your means to change

a. you cannot change other ppl. despite what you think and wish, other ppl need to be willing to change first. and that won't happen without something drastic happening. this means that point 2 above is not something you can control.
b. you can change yourself.
- this means that you can change point 1 above (i.e. not be nice guy)
- or you can change point 3 above (i.e. change target.. which is what I was trying to tell you in option 1 in my first post)

tl;dr: if you do not change anything, the situation won't change itself.

post note: if you think after a while, the girl will get hurt and will come running to you for support and stuff... you may be right. but note that at that point.. you are a spare tyre. You may get some time with her, but she won't be yours (based on point 2 above)

post note 2: i'm very much surprised that no one advised you to change target. serious.

[thkidnextdoor]

As long as you're financially stable, why afraid you don't have a partner? Let the love finds you, and not chasing over love. If the time is right, the right one will come in your life. Focus on the things you love to do.

Remember, girls love guys that have ambition and dream!

P.S: Well, what I said it's only my opinion and not what all of the girls are thinking. Some are just bitches :p

[seventynine]

Im in a dilemma, well most of girl friends would said that im a nice guy. thats what they say yea.

But i dont think i am and i have this idea in mind, lets say if im a nice guy, and potray me as an object, i would be a nice object right, people would want to buy and own me right.

But girls around me tend to like just treat as a friend only and prefer starting a relationship with those boys that even have rumours of cheating on their girlfriend.

I dont know what to do to get the girl that i like to like me, because she seems to be more interested in those guy that would hurt her instead of loving her.

Any advice senior ?

Nick,

The hidden definition of Nice Guy is boring and predictable.
If you are a girl, would you want to hang out or go on a date with such a guy?

Truth be told, married man are deemed more attractive than single ones.
Observe from your friends or read up on the topic, guys tend to get more advances after they become attached.
Why? Because they are 'proven to be worthy'.
I know the irony: It's like going for your first job interview and get rejected because you don't have experience.
But if you don't get a first job, how do you gain experience right? :D

As for 'girls prefer starting a relationship with those boys that even have rumours of cheating on their girlfriend',
it is the sense of excitement and mystery that make them attractive to girls.
Yes you got it, nice guys don't have these qualities.

Actually, the most important quality is Self-Confidence.
You get self confidence by being good at what you do. Be it your studies, job, hobby, sports etc...
When you have Self-Confidence, you'll have the same aura as those guys you are envious of.
What? It takes too long to become good at those things and build self-confidence?

Then perhaps you can take the short-cut by reading up on pickup guides eg
http://www.sosuave.com/
Download the free eBook and practise. Fake it till you make it.

Once you gotten your first girlfriend (assuming you hadn't), you'll be on a roll.
And along the way, you might attract your original target and get on with her (assuming your feelings for her haven't changed).

All the best dude! ;)

[crazyivan]

hey bro, thanks for the piece of advice, but im abit confused? i dont get what you really mean. hope you could explain further.

some things you have to experience first , then you will know what other seniors are talking about . if you were to say your girlfriends like fuckboys , can i say there are fuckgirls too ? since they themselves know fuckboys dont last long in relationships . anyways dont rush into a relationship ba , rush for ur career first instead . maybe you can go make more friends and widen your circles first :)

有钱不怕没女人，
女人只怕你没钱。

[Gambass]

I would say this works 100% on PRC girls, 80% on Singaporean girls, 60% on Malaysian girls. :p

I think so too :D

[Jebuschris91]

Ts, I don't think you are the only problem here, you mentioned before 26 is mature to you in terms of a matured woman. This means the girl you like is probably younger than 24?

You may be a contributing factor in terms of the way you behave or whatever, but the girl is also at fault.

What she lacks is mental maturity, from the way you have described it, she's still after the "bad boy", she isn't ready to settle down and she hasn't grown enough to appreciate a stable person over someone who can bring excitement but not security.

To be crude, she has to get screwed over a few more times emotionally to get it. Some women mature faster, yours just happens to still be a teenager.

If you really want to move on or settle it, tell her you can't be friends with her anymore. She asks why and you say:
"Cause I like you too much and I don't want to ruin our friendship, since you don't feel the same and won't give me a chance then it's better if I fucked off"

She either says bye, which means you never really meant that much to her in the first place, so this is saving yourself.

Or she tells you to stay, and might even give you a chance, which is what you want. But if you fuck that up then too bad.

Only stay if she's willing to give you a chance, if not then just fuck off, she may be the best shit to you right now, but there is always another girl meant for you so don't think that way.

[sagota]

TS, nice guy usually cannot get pussy.

[nicktiger]

I understand.. but let me help to break down your problem:

1. you say you are a nice guy
2. you observe that the girl you like like bad guys
3. you conclude you need help to get the girl you like to like you

So what can you do? You need to know what is within your means to change

a. you cannot change other ppl. despite what you think and wish, other ppl need to be willing to change first. and that won't happen without something drastic happening. this means that point 2 above is not something you can control.
b. you can change yourself.
- this means that you can change point 1 above (i.e. not be nice guy)
- or you can change point 3 above (i.e. change target.. which is what I was trying to tell you in option 1 in my first post)

tl;dr: if you do not change anything, the situation won't change itself.

post note: if you think after a while, the girl will get hurt and will come running to you for support and stuff... you may be right. but note that at that point.. you are a spare tyre. You may get some time with her, but she won't be yours (based on point 2 above)

post note 2: i'm very much surprised that no one advised you to change target. serious.

Bro, i would like to thank you for taking your time and patience to analyse things for me. Thank You Very Much!!

Well you are right!! I need a change.

i think i will change my target, there are plenty fishes in the sea right!!

thanks bro, you open my mind up.

[nicktiger]

As long as you're financially stable, why afraid you don't have a partner? Let the love finds you, and not chasing over love. If the time is right, the right one will come in your life. Focus on the things you love to do.

Remember, girls love guys that have ambition and dream!

P.S: Well, what I said it's only my opinion and not what all of the girls are thinking. Some are just bitches :p

Thanks sis/bro for your advice, i guess i will work my ass off first then only look into these relationship problems.

[nicktiger]

Nick,

The hidden definition of Nice Guy is boring and predictable.
If you are a girl, would you want to hang out or go on a date with such a guy?

Truth be told, married man are deemed more attractive than single ones.
Observe from your friends or read up on the topic, guys tend to get more advances after they become attached.
Why? Because they are 'proven to be worthy'.
I know the irony: It's like going for your first job interview and get rejected because you don't have experience.
But if you don't get a first job, how do you gain experience right? :D

As for 'girls prefer starting a relationship with those boys that even have rumours of cheating on their girlfriend',
it is the sense of excitement and mystery that make them attractive to girls.
Yes you got it, nice guys don't have these qualities.

Actually, the most important quality is Self-Confidence.
You get self confidence by being good at what you do. Be it your studies, job, hobby, sports etc...
When you have Self-Confidence, you'll have the same aura as those guys you are envious of.
What? It takes too long to become good at those things and build self-confidence?

Then perhaps you can take the short-cut by reading up on pickup guides eg
http://www.sosuave.com/
Download the free eBook and practise. Fake it till you make it.

Once you gotten your first girlfriend (assuming you hadn't), you'll be on a roll.
And along the way, you might attract your original target and get on with her (assuming your feelings for her haven't changed).

All the best dude! ;)

Thanks sis for your advice.'

If i want to fck around definitely with a fckgirl, if i want to settle definitely is the nice girl.

I agree with you that married man are tend to seem more worthy.

Can i say it this way, girl going to fckboys even they know they might be hurt, but still want the thrill and excitement they might get. its just trying the spicy korean noodle, we all know is god damn spicy yet we want to eat it because of the curiosity and the excitement we get.

I think i have lost all of my self confidence in my last relationship, it was 4 years back, and it left me broken.

thank you again for your advice!!

[nicktiger]

some things you have to experience first , then you will know what other seniors are talking about . if you were to say your girlfriends like fuckboys , can i say there are fuckgirls too ? since they themselves know fuckboys dont last long in relationships . anyways dont rush into a relationship ba , rush for ur career first instead . maybe you can go make more friends and widen your circles first :)

有钱不怕没女人，
女人只怕你没钱。

Thanks bro for your reply.

yea you are right, im still young i still got time to search for the right one ? but is it for a guy to get girls at the work place, or do i get it in uni is better ?

[nicktiger]

Ts, I don't think you are the only problem here, you mentioned before 26 is mature to you in terms of a matured woman. This means the girl you like is probably younger than 24?

You may be a contributing factor in terms of the way you behave or whatever, but the girl is also at fault.

What she lacks is mental maturity, from the way you have described it, she's still after the "bad boy", she isn't ready to settle down and she hasn't grown enough to appreciate a stable person over someone who can bring excitement but not security.

To be crude, she has to get screwed over a few more times emotionally to get it. Some women mature faster, yours just happens to still be a teenager.

If you really want to move on or settle it, tell her you can't be friends with her anymore. She asks why and you say:
"Cause I like you too much and I don't want to ruin our friendship, since you don't feel the same and won't give me a chance then it's better if I fucked off"

She either says bye, which means you never really meant that much to her in the first place, so this is saving yourself.

Or she tells you to stay, and might even give you a chance, which is what you want. But if you fuck that up then too bad.

Only stay if she's willing to give you a chance, if not then just fuck off, she may be the best shit to you right now, but there is always another girl meant for you so don't think that way.

Thanks bro, i have tried your way somehow and yea it didnt work, like i stayed for no reason. so yea its time for me to fck off. thanks man!!

[XinfernoX]

Well most people here gave good advices already, so let me just share with you a youtube that reinforces everyone's opinion.
Watch it and hope it helps to give you courage ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR69Z4r_RbM

[zawaqi]

TS, nice guy usually cannot get pussy.

Exactly my sentiments.

[wings32]

Buy new car.

New car, condominiums , country clubs , credit cards and cash are what they want

cruel, but truth... mean on your answer :)

[seventynine]

Thanks sis for your advice.'

If i want to fck around definitely with a fckgirl, if i want to settle definitely is the nice girl.

I agree with you that married man are tend to seem more worthy.

Can i say it this way, girl going to fckboys even they know they might be hurt, but still want the thrill and excitement they might get. its just trying the spicy korean noodle, we all know is god damn spicy yet we want to eat it because of the curiosity and the excitement we get.

I think i have lost all of my self confidence in my last relationship, it was 4 years back, and it left me broken.

thank you again for your advice!!

Dude, I'm a bro lahzzz :D

Whoa, 4 years and you still not fully recovered?
As the word imply, Self-Confidence comes from your ownself, not given nor can be taken away by others!

Clique but evergreen saying: 不要为了一棵树放弃整个森林
There are definitely much much better girls out there just that you haven't met them yet.
Focus on making yourself attractive & desirable (in terms of weight, looks, dressing, bank account and whatever).
As each year passes by, there'll be more & more choices in terms of age eligibility ;)

http://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984

[crazyivan]

Thanks bro for your reply.

yea you are right, im still young i still got time to search for the right one ? but is it for a guy to get girls at the work place, or do i get it in uni is better ?

if i can tell you when is the right time , every week i strike 4D liao :p
it takes 2 hands to clap , both have to give and take .
its all about the mindset , really need to get into few r/s then you will know how to handle diff types of girls :rolleyes:

[ddog]

Ddog having born protective family, girls was mystery unicorn. Was nice nice guy think nicer better as novels, movies portray.
But fast forward, lost few girls. Treated girls too nice, fulfilled every girls wishes yet girl tell Ddog you not guy. Why no guy? Take girl good restaurant, expensive gifts, shopping spree.. more than guy right? No... wrong wrong...
Then Ddog fed up... and opened up eyes and secret found truths:

Problem is, female doggy species are programmed strange. Scarcity and Demand. Why female go for bargains, sales even price remains same, but word 'SALE' makes female crazy? Because stock is running out and in demand.

Same same as male. If make is limited time offer, in demand with gals, female perceive Male as a good catch. Will pursue guy. If male too easily give, is easy catch then is low value and low in social ranking. See lower ranked wolf how react to higher ranked? Would female respect those?

Another evolutionary animal instinct in female survival mind is, Alpha. Is leader of the pack, white wolf, silverback gorilla, big cock. The stronger the male, stronger is chance of survival for female kids and family. Alpha man is full of confidence, show cocky right in face of gals, no afraid demand gal to pass drinks, items, to him (girls programmed 'listen to a male leader naturally') and it triggers female submissiveness. Man of mission, direction and dreams, also never lose touch of self interest, not hers, yours.

Girls find Alpha males irresistible naturally as nature programmed, not submissive males. If stood tall, dominant gait, confidence, naturally attractive to female, will get you laid. Gals beri like, just last Sat Ddog got molested by very beautiful tall models too, gal even asked Ddog a few times for drinks in that event (Ddog purposedly ignored 2 request to build demand), then hands on Doggy thigh. Girl is 1 of the model in event of 30 on beach, 172cm you can imagine how beautiful (with heels around 176). Having 6pack, good body works also

Bulging tummy, low physique shows lower Testosterone, also spells low dominance, no very Alpha. So work on tummy if want improve. Female love to chase, is in built in all through evolution. That's why female put on makeup, to attract strong males, not weak submissive.

is long long story... Doggystyle go prepare tonights date.

[nicktiger]

Dude, I'm a bro lahzzz :D

Whoa, 4 years and you still not fully recovered?
As the word imply, Self-Confidence comes from your ownself, not given nor can be taken away by others!

Clique but evergreen saying: 不要为了一棵树放弃整个森林
There are definitely much much better girls out there just that you haven't met them yet.
Focus on making yourself attractive & desirable (in terms of weight, looks, dressing, bank account and whatever).
As each year passes by, there'll be more & more choices in terms of age eligibility ;)

http://jezebel.com/mens-favorite-ages-are-20-21-22-and-23-a-data-dive-1731660984

Sorry bro, my bad....

takes time to regain that confidence of mine.

Thanks for the great advice bro, sounds like you got plenty of experience, im sure girls would like to hang around you, i think i should call you sifu.

[maxman]

You may want to watch these videos:


Why the alpha male gets the girl
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmdHLUmr6Y


How to become the alpha male
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUnzzjthwkI


How to attract anyone - the bad boy effect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6UDaIrhkY


Signs a girl likes you and how to attract her like a real man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFDfMcdVpDE

[virgone]

hey sis, i dont know what is going on in her mind, she puts real feelings into those fck boys, i dont understand why?

Bad boys finish first. Nice guys finish last.

bro

男人不壞
女人不愛

Thats so true. Bad boys always finish first. ;)

So many tell you the same thing liao, u still don't believe.

Change your perception.

I was once like u, nice guy. In the end, most girls also give the same answer, like "you are very nice guy, I'm not suitable for you"; "I treat you like bro only"... Etc..

Face it. Girls like boys who are daring and thick skin. One that will go all out to pursue her. They like the challenge.

Not asking you to be bad boys, just need to be daring and confident. Good luck.

[seventynine]

Sorry bro, my bad....

takes time to regain that confidence of mine.

Thanks for the great advice bro, sounds like you got plenty of experience, im sure girls would like to hang around you, i think i should call you sifu.

不敢当! 高手 many-many like clouds in your thread as well as round the whole forum.
Just sharing what comes to mind. I learned a lot from othes here too.

I especially enjoy reading Ddog's sharing esp with his unique style of writing.
真人不露相 :D

[Metascooter]

You sound like a gay friend. :P

[KnightShop]

Thats so true. Bad boys always finish first. ;)

Sad but true

[Metascooter]

Sad but true

Metalica song ah

[naturegreen]

男人不坏，女人不爱。 So which category do you belong to?

[terryhehe]

Just tell her u wanna meet her at night for supper. Tell her directly her outfit is making ur Lil Bro uncomfortable.

She either want or don't want..
Just make life simple.
Ur agenda to make her like u is to fuck her first. Anything else talk later. Lol

[Metascooter]

Just tell her u wanna meet her at night for supper. Tell her directly her outfit is making ur Lil Bro uncomfortable.

She either want or don't want..
Just make life simple.
Ur agenda to make her like u is to fuck her first. Anything else talk later. Lol

Straight to the point. Gals do not like guys to be wishy washy type.

[1001]

Straight to the point. Gals do not like guys to be wishy washy type.

Yes, go straight n try. Can great, cant then move on.

[maxvalue]

Straight to the point. Gals do not like guys to be wishy washy type.

Agree with you bro

[Metascooter]

Agree with you bro

TS gone liao. haha.