You all still got go spa?

[superstiffy]

During covid time lan lan because only spa open...

Now everywhere also open liao.. u all still got go spa? For me I reduce sibei alot .. last time is 1 week 2 times.. now is 2 mths 1 time... the price all increase until dunno like what... funny thing is the more the price go up the more lao jiao cheongster go jb.. ML no business then keep increase price... increase liao lagi nobody go... so many from 10am until 7pm only 1 customer... if price come down then more people will go support mah.. no meh?

[loneyheart]

My last visit last Jun till now unable to target a good one :) Dum want to waste $$$ n complain

[superstiffy]

My last visit last Jun till now unable to target a good one :) Dum want to waste $$$ n complain

i know the feeling... walk out liao straightaway regret wasting money... the situation really jialat nowdays.. even my regular MLs i also sian to go because entry become $60 liao...

[Hori]

Only frequent jb spa :(

[CollectStamp]

only spa i go for relax and release..

[loneyheart]

i know the feeling... walk out liao straightaway regret wasting money... the situation really jialat nowdays.. even my regular MLs i also sian to go because entry become $60 liao...

They only sitting there n complain business bad n never learn the operating sys like value $$$ shop 薄利多消 time is $$$ rather then 1 or none customer during 10 am to 7 pm .... they just not hungry enough :)

[Heartlandlover]

Hi Bros,

Maybe I share my opinion. Especially the PRC. Not siding any parties in anyway.

How to determine business is bad?
If I use to earn $20k a mth in 2021/22 now I earn $8 to 10k a mth. I might say it's bad. But will I starve? To many its still a decent income.

And by lowering the price doesn't means more customers will return to massage scene. 2021 is bo bian for us, the only entertainment is massage. So even avg looking ml with lousy massage skills have 6 to 8 customers a day. Now gl n ktv is back. We men have more options. GL lovers will just go back GL. Cost effective. U see what u get. Ppl with time will travel to jb.

Soon more ML will return back to China.
China is opening up. And if things get better in China. They might as well stay in China to earn their 4-5W rmb there. Life there is much better than in sg. More freedom. Else maybe other countries that can give them better income.

So I doubt they will drop the price. Those who cannot make it will just head home. They do not have plan to stay here forever.
In fact where can make better money they will just go. The supply will gets lower to balance out the demand level.

The surge in spa shops happend during the pandemic time. Now it's time it goes back to precovid level. ML will go back. Shops might get lesser in time to come.

Therefore I doubt they will drastically reduce price. However they might offer more to earn the same amt of money. Especially those not that attractive ones. Like let u zhut or zhut u. French u. Etc...

Avg ML have approx 3 to 4 customers a day in today's market. Depending on shop location, condition and the competition within the shop itself.

There are still ml who charges for 100 hj and roaming that is hard to book.

In short those cmi ones earning less than 6k will leave our shore. The better ones will stay. Price most probably won't drop.

[SGBJ2016]

Don’t know about others but if price drops I’ll visit more often. So I’ll spend more every month.

[The Old Nite]

nowadays i chiong jb spa liao... cause sg fucking ex... mco time, sg spa tink they like king, cause geylang close so we nowhere to release, then sg spa up their price like crazy... now tat jb is open n tat side is more cheap, chiong there is better than u chiong sg spa... so sg spa get ready to lose businesss... sg spa can no long take n treat us like carrot to chop liao...

[ilovepantyhose]

why be robert? tio gong tao sibo?

:p:D

[KangTuo]

I still go spa often. one week once or twice although everywhere open up.

no go JB due family commitment.
though GL open for $60 for 25 min, as I no longer young, I will need x2 for 1 shot. When GL 1st re-open, I went 2038 ($120) but after deed, I feel tired, I went massage ($88+$50) so it seems double my expense. Also abit lazy to go all the way to GL.

So I mostly stay with the massage as spa/tcm are everywhere in every estate. can be lazy laying down relaxing while ML touch you all over and lastly release. During massage, mostly I ask them concentrate more on lower part.
$88+$50
$88+$100 (hj+roaming)
$58+$50
$58+$100 (bbbj)
$58+$150 (fj)
All above all tried.
Average spend $700+ per month in spa/tcm

too active in my younger years going GL fish tank and hooking vb from pub in JC and GL to go hotel.

[DarkPandaPrince]

My last visit last Jun till now unable to target a good one :) Dum want to waste $$$ n complain

Not easy to find a good one. I went to 2 random spa recently. And I am unable to find ML who wanted $50 with outside roaming. Wasted $$$ for entry. But at least I stand by my principles not to exceed my budget.

Time for me to go back and look for Tian Tian (by Exchange123)!

[quiddi]

Yes. Since my regular still have $50 entrance fee only.

[superstiffy]

Don’t know about others but if price drops I’ll visit more often. So I’ll spend more every month.

Ya this part is i dun understand... no business because price high + more competition from jb.. only way to improve is fight on price, give discount etc... they dun want to lower price then complain no customer but not doing anything... :confused: so means just sit there and wait?

Hi Bros,

Maybe I share my opinion. Especially the PRC. Not siding any parties in anyway.

bro i understand what you saying but many times is service drop but price go up... like my mee poh ta last time $3 now is $3.5 and become only 2 fishball... this one is no problem because cost go up for them...

ML is just dun wnat to earn less so maintain the price.. end up no customer... just saw 1 ML complain she whole day dun have customer :D but ya i agree that those can all just go back and we wait for new batch to come in...

[superstiffy]

why be robert? tio gong tao sibo?

:p:D

maybe is xin jiao so dunno market rate?

dat day i walk into new spa...ml tell me they only do hj ask me want 50 or 100.. i ask her 50 use 1 hand.. 100 use 2 hand ah? my kuku not so big.. 1 hand can liao.. :D

[lazyguy]

Hi Bros,

Maybe I share my opinion. Especially the PRC. Not siding any parties in anyway.

How to determine business is bad?
If I use to earn $20k a mth in 2021/22 now I earn $8 to 10k a mth. I might say it's bad. But will I starve? To many its still a decent income.

And by lowering the price doesn't means more customers will return to massage scene. 2021 is bo bian for us, the only entertainment is massage. So even avg looking ml with lousy massage skills have 6 to 8 customers a day. Now gl n ktv is back. We men have more options. GL lovers will just go back GL. Cost effective. U see what u get. Ppl with time will travel to jb.

Soon more ML will return back to China.
China is opening up. And if things get better in China. They might as well stay in China to earn their 4-5W rmb there. Life there is much better than in sg. More freedom. Else maybe other countries that can give them better income.

So I doubt they will drop the price. Those who cannot make it will just head home. They do not have plan to stay here forever.
In fact where can make better money they will just go. The supply will gets lower to balance out the demand level.

The surge in spa shops happend during the pandemic time. Now it's time it goes back to precovid level. ML will go back. Shops might get lesser in time to come.

Therefore I doubt they will drastically reduce price. However they might offer more to earn the same amt of money. Especially those not that attractive ones. Like let u zhut or zhut u. French u. Etc...

Avg ML have approx 3 to 4 customers a day in today's market. Depending on shop location, condition and the competition within the shop itself.

There are still ml who charges for 100 hj and roaming that is hard to book.

In short those cmi ones earning less than 6k will leave our shore. The better ones will stay. Price most probably won't drop.

Bro alot ml , I can't said all are rejected stuff from prc to come here.. like 40 plus still act they 20 plus one.. haha.. the ml there quite got standard young and gd one.. like their ktv 25 years old is too old to be Xiao jie.. mostly that age is MMS already..

Sg here to lenient lah.. too many rich one.. nothing to spend on so any gal also can.

Those stay here play one mostly married men can't escape wife eyes lah.. for those can can go jb, Batam, Thailand.. now waiting for China to really open so I can go there.. alot of mm is waiting leh..

Seriously if all willing to boycott the price sure go down.. as it a demand and supply market.. haha.. and dun listen to much on them lah.. wat can earn 50k 60k there.. how many can do it.. if can no need leave shore to come here and get away from family .

[Christin]

nowadays i chiong jb spa liao... cause sg fucking ex... mco time, sg spa tink they like king, cause geylang close so we nowhere to release, then sg spa up their price like crazy... now tat jb is open n tat side is more cheap, chiong there is better than u chiong sg spa... so sg spa get ready to lose businesss... sg spa can no long take n treat us like carrot to chop liao...


I dk why sg massage spa price cannt drop, simple logic of price and demand, time have change, everytime i say can cheaper or nt they will black face say i "stingy", lolol, no wonder so many ppl go malaysia nowaday

[Peacekeeping]

Go online massage cheaper and better quality.

[afterburn]

For sure avoid going next week onwards till after CNY because those ML will ask for ang bao :D

[KangTuo]

For sure avoid going next week onwards till after CNY because those ML will ask for ang bao :D

very true.. already got ML hint hint already :D

[HeyHo]

Now inflation, got to reduce frequent visits🤣

[jonzzen]

For sure avoid going next week onwards till after CNY because those ML will ask for ang bao :D


We not obligated to give right? Lol.
Learn to say No.
They also say No to me if I ask them to BJ me at $50. Not as if I owe them anything.

[jonzzen]

Bro alot ml , I can't said all are rejected stuff from prc to come here.. like 40 plus still act they 20 plus one.. haha.. the ml there quite got standard young and gd one.. like their ktv 25 years old is too old to be Xiao jie.. mostly that age is MMS already..

Sg here to lenient lah.. too many rich one.. nothing to spend on so any gal also can.

Those stay here play one mostly married men can't escape wife eyes lah.. for those can can go jb, Batam, Thailand.. now waiting for China to really open so I can go there.. alot of mm is waiting leh..

Seriously if all willing to boycott the price sure go down.. as it a demand and supply market.. haha.. and dun listen to much on them lah.. wat can earn 50k 60k there.. how many can do it.. if can no need leave shore to come here and get away from family .

Lazy guy is right.
China working ladies are young.
Once reach 30s they are obsolete.
They will be considered as 大妈.
Go via HK cheaper option now.

[Specialboy]

Why go spa paying overprice?
Many home based ml still charging $100-$120 with hj, and you may get more if you can sweet talk or charm them.
I find that with home based ml, you can get more compared to shop based, one of the reason is ml feel safer and more relax.

[lazyguy]

Lazy guy is right.
China working ladies are young.
Once reach 30s they are obsolete.
They will be considered as 大妈.
Go via HK cheaper option now.

Ya.. haha.. my frds alot go thr hk now.. I wait for coast more clear then do it..

As I said before those who can just go oversea to play lor..

[lazyguy]

very true.. already got ML hint hint already :D

All start to clever already.. even maids I know also start to tell me already.. all gd one dun learn all learn bad one

[loneyheart]

Talking abt business one must focus what's their selling points instead of just sitting there complaining business .

Chinese jobless rate reported as high as 20%
3 yrs of lock down ended most spend off their hard earned saving

As China opened up hope to see sunrise after CNY in SG MLs /FLs with more competitive pricing n good stocks n svc for bros chiongers

Happy CNY to All bros :)

[lazyguy]

Talking abt business one must focus what's their selling points instead of just sitting there complaining business .

Chinese jobless rate reported as high as 20%
3 yrs of lock down ended most spend off their hard earned saving

As China opened up hope to see sunrise after CNY in SG MLs /FLs with more competitive pricing n good stocks n svc for bros chiongers

Happy CNY to All bros :)

Main is bros here cannot be like Robert.. if Robert no matter how.. also no use one.. haha.

Happy chionging

[ladyassasinato]

Go find ml who works at condo better lah. 120 can strip naked and play with you on a Q size bed, much more better than those lousy spa mah.

Just do your home work, you will be able to get those better mls. :D

[CollectStamp]

Go find ml who works at condo better lah. 120 can strip naked and play with you on a Q size bed, much more better than those lousy spa mah.

Just do your home work, you will be able to get those better mls. :D

play in condo danger lah, everytime go in lift saw other people very scared one.

[candeo_88]

Mask on, sunglasses on and cap on...and wear plain white or black tshirt or a foodpanda/grabfood tshirt.. no one will blink an eye ...why scared?

:D:cool:

play in condo danger lah, everytime go in lift saw other people very scared one.

[coolmanspooky]

Wear mask loh...now covid mah...so if you wear mask, no one will think anything

[Questioneer]

I need to figure out how to chiong in JB. Feel like there are too many unknown variables.

[superstiffy]

I need to figure out how to chiong in JB. Feel like there are too many unknown variables.

just try... tio land mine damage is small... can try again... u go sg spa 1 time can go jb spa 3 times... can try until nerng kah... :D

[ladyassasinato]

play in condo danger lah, everytime go in lift saw other people very scared one.

Must be thick skin lah. They are just a stranger to you. Nothing to worry. ;)

[jonzzen]

play in condo danger lah, everytime go in lift saw other people very scared one.

Danger? Like as in?
Care to elaborate.
Thks.

[jonzzen]

Not offending anyone.

IMO no 1 person can change the market.
If item is really over priced beyond acceptance then demand will move away. Resulting in business wind up. If the business still run as usual. Then it means market acceptance.

For eg,
The chicken rice in punggol is selling at $4.50. To me i feel that chicken rice shld be ard $3 just like the one in Hougang just that the meat lesser and the rice not so fragrant. I nvr buy the 4.50 one. But others still buy leh. Why ah? These Roberts. He still surviving after 12mths. Hmm. Am I the one that is having prob in accepting or those ppl who accepted his pricing are fools. If he cannot survive he will auto adjust pricing.

There are ML who still have entrance at 50 to 60 dollars. HJ with roaming at 50. Not so syt good looking with good figure. Just travel bit and go for those.

Look at our HDBs. My father buy the EM at less than 100k. Now my son new HDB need 700k and smaller. Stupid him why spend so much? Complain. Tell govt reduce price. My son say he dun buy other ppl buy. Pa u dunno todays pricing lah. Lol.

[superstiffy]

Not offending anyone.

IMO no 1 person can change the market.
If item is really over priced beyond acceptance then demand will move away. Resulting in business wind up. If the business still run as usual. Then it means market acceptance.

For eg,
The chicken rice in punggol is selling at $4.50. To me i feel that chicken rice shld be ard $3 just like the one in Hougang just that the meat lesser and the rice not so fragrant. I nvr buy the 4.50 one. But others still buy leh. Why ah? These Roberts. He still surviving after 12mths. Hmm. Am I the one that is having prob in accepting or those ppl who accepted his pricing are fools. If he cannot survive he will auto adjust pricing.

There are ML who still have entrance at 50 to 60 dollars. HJ with roaming at 50. Not so syt good looking with good figure. Just travel bit and go for those.

Look at our HDBs. My father buy the EM at less than 100k. Now my son new HDB need 700k and smaller. Stupid him why spend so much? Complain. Tell govt reduce price. My son say he dun buy other ppl buy. Pa u dunno todays pricing lah. Lol.

want to sell chicken rice need to buy chicken and buy rice... if chicken + rice price increase then the hawker bo pian also need to increase... if not eat ownself meh... this one can understand and is reasonable...

ml give hj no need to buy hand... she already got hand so means is 100% profit.. so cannot compare like that la... zero cost business increase price means greedy...

[afterburn]

want to sell chicken rice need to buy chicken and buy rice... if chicken + rice price increase then the hawker bo pian also need to increase... if not eat ownself meh... this one can understand and is reasonable...

ml give hj no need to buy hand... she already got hand so means is 100% profit.. so cannot compare like that la... zero cost business increase price means greedy...

The ml need to buy soap and sanitizer for her hands, for use after delivering hj, and those prices increase :D

Joke aside, it is for that reason you stated, why "specials" prices have remained fairly constant for years, because there is really not much extra cost for the ML in terms of delivering hj, bj, fj service.

[SgBoy86]

Not offending anyone.

IMO no 1erson can change the market.
If item is really over priced beyond acceptance then demand will move away. Resulting in business wind up. If the business still run as usual. Then it means market acceptance.

For eg,
The chicken rice in punggol is selling at $4.50. To me i feel that chicken rice shld be ard $3 just like the one in Hougang just that the meat lesser and the rice not so fragrant. I nvr buy the 4.50 one. But others still buy leh. Why ah? These Roberts. He still surviving after 12mths. Hmm. Am I the one that is having prob in accepting or those ppl who accepted his pricing are fools. If he cannot survive he will auto adjust pricing.

There are ML who still have entrance at 50 to 60 dollars. HJ with roaming at 50. Not so syt good looking with good figure. Just travel bit and go for those.

Look at our HDBs. My father buy the EM at less than 100k. Now my son new HDB need 700k and smaller. Stupid him why spend so much? Complain. Tell govt reduce price. My son say he dun buy other ppl buy. Pa u dunno todays pricing lah. Lol.

There will always be ah hai and roberts in every era to spoil market.

Just protect your playgrounds can liao, you dunno how many MLs behind laughing at these "rich customers" behind their back. It's a well known fact actually, a good example is the flower joint scene.

See liao also arm chio :p

[lawrene]

From my understanding, the ML cost is the amount they need to pay upfront to come work in Singapore. It is in the range of few thousand.
The ML will likely wants to earn back the money asap as they don't know when they will be caught and send back.
Some shop owner also don't pass the massage payment to the ML, so ML is simply earn from the special services provided.
It is normal for price to inflate over time, like GL also increase from 50 to 60 now.
However i don't agree with the ML special services price increase as it is too much.
From 50 to 80 for similar services, it is 60% inflation.

[newbbewbs]

Go find ml who works at condo better lah. 120 can strip naked and play with you on a Q size bed, much more better than those lousy spa mah.

Just do your home work, you will be able to get those better mls. :D

can PM me some recommendations, gamxia.

[bornlivedie]

From my understanding, the ML cost is the amount they need to pay upfront to come work in Singapore. It is in the range of few thousand.
The ML will likely wants to earn back the money asap as they don't know when they will be caught and send back.
Some shop owner also don't pass the massage payment to the ML, so ML is simply earn from the special services provided.
It is normal for price to inflate over time, like GL also increase from 50 to 60 now.
However i don't agree with the ML special services price increase as it is too much.
From 50 to 80 for similar services, it is 60% inflation.

Yeahs. And alot are putting in lesser efforts as well. not even considered doing a proper hj. just hurry you to faster release n f off. lol :(

[jonzzen]

play in condo danger lah, everytime go in lift saw other people very scared one.


Hahahaha. I think u must be a public figure.
Climb stairs. Chances of meeting someone lower.

[jonzzen]

Just my personal opinion.

Firstly, we can judge how much the business is earning and give our comments on how much shld it be priced. But we as individual can nvr control it. The market decides. So if the pricing starts to reduce towards ur suggest price then the majority in the market is having the same sentiment as you. If no change in market, then u are the minority. Business carry on as majority (who ppl call Ah Hai or Robert) can accept and afford. Agree?

Next, from 50 to 80 or even 100. The price change is approx 30 to 50. Meaning if u go massage 10 times a mth. Its 300 to 500. Is this amt very significant to you and affecting your daily life? If yes, then 4 things come to my mind.

1) Reduce frequency of massage.
2) Travel abit more to those 50+50. Still get ur release but maybe slightly lesser playability. Service & looks may not be top notch.
3) Quite the Scene, DIY PCC is FOC. Else GL. Beggars can't be choosers.
4) *The most important - Get more income. Especially the young men in this forum. Aim to be called the Robert or Ah Hai. When u earn abv $10k or even $50k a mth. I am pretty sure spending $300 or $500 more a mth is ok. Not much feeling. Absolutely not worth ur time dwelling abt how much ppl shld price their business. Spend effort and time on making more money. Have the mindset of changing urself instead of trying to change others.
Ur entire life will be different. No just abt chionging.

[ZiYouRen]

I only go spa/MP when I am in need of a good massage.

I went to an MP yesterday. I usually go ML condo to get my fix, but I was really in need of a massage. As we all know, those condo ML massages usually is going through the motion, so went to visit an MP.

Massage was good. Entrance fee was acceptable, but the sensual was overpriced. At the heat of the moment, small head overwhelmed big head, so caved and paid up. Gonna go back to condo ML again to save money.

[superstiffy]

Just my personal opinion.

Firstly, we can judge how much the business is earning and give our comments on how much shld it be priced. But we as individual can nvr control it. The market decides. So if the pricing starts to reduce towards ur suggest price then the majority in the market is having the same sentiment as you. If no change in market, then u are the minority. Business carry on as majority (who ppl call Ah Hai or Robert) can accept and afford. Agree?

Next, from 50 to 80 or even 100. The price change is approx 30 to 50. Meaning if u go massage 10 times a mth. Its 300 to 500. Is this amt very significant to you and affecting your daily life? If yes, then 4 things come to my mind.

1) Reduce frequency of massage.
2) Travel abit more to those 50+50. Still get ur release but maybe slightly lesser playability. Service & looks may not be top notch.
3) Quite the Scene, DIY PCC is FOC. Else GL. Beggars can't be choosers.
4) *The most important - Get more income. Especially the young men in this forum. Aim to be called the Robert or Ah Hai. When u earn abv $10k or even $50k a mth. I am pretty sure spending $300 or $500 more a mth is ok. Not much feeling. Absolutely not worth ur time dwelling abt how much ppl shld price their business. Spend effort and time on making more money. Have the mindset of changing urself instead of trying to change others.
Ur entire life will be different. No just abt chionging.

Bro... i start this thread not to complain about price hor.. dun misunderstand.. ML want to ask how much is their tai ji.. i can choose not to go... i start this thread because i curious how many bros still willing to pay their asking price...

History of this increase is coz covid lockdown.. no options + high demand so ML start to rob pple.. covid no more lock down, people got options liao but ML still maintain high price then come and complain business bad :D simple logic is go back to before covid price then customers will increase mah...

Anyway from the way you write hor.. i think u are same like 63% of people here lah.. ask you to pay and pay u will guai guai pay and pay.. got reason pay, no reason grumble liao also still pay.. not happy also dare not to make noise... just find a way so you can pay and pay... thats y always tio bully by the greedy people... :D

But this kind of thing no right or wrong... ur life mah.. u happy can liao... :D

[taumajid2003]

During covid time lan lan because only spa open...

Now everywhere also open liao.. u all still got go spa? For me I reduce sibei alot .. last time is 1 week 2 times.. now is 2 mths 1 time... the price all increase until dunno like what... funny thing is the more the price go up the more lao jiao cheongster go jb.. ML no business then keep increase price... increase liao lagi nobody go... so many from 10am until 7pm only 1 customer... if price come down then more people will go support mah.. no meh?

Yes ! That is why all must come together as one ! All just boycott all the SPAs all across the island. Let them close down one by one and if those bosses got $$ to burn and "geh geh" tong, also let them feel the pain. Slowly they will also lan lan and close down as $$ keep burning but nothing comes in. United is strength !

[taumajid2003]

Bro... i start this thread not to complain about price hor.. dun misunderstand.. ML want to ask how much is their tai ji.. i can choose not to go... i start this thread because i curious how many bros still willing to pay their asking price...

History of this increase is coz covid lockdown.. no options + high demand so ML start to rob pple.. covid no more lock down, people got options liao but ML still maintain high price then come and complain business bad :D simple logic is go back to before covid price then customers will increase mah...

Anyway from the way you write hor.. i think u are same like 63% of people here lah.. ask you to pay and pay u will guai guai pay and pay.. got reason pay, no reason grumble liao also still pay.. not happy also dare not to make noise... just find a way so you can pay and pay... thats y always tio bully by the greedy people... :D

But this kind of thing no right or wrong... ur life mah.. u happy can liao... :D

Yes ! I support your notion!

[taumajid2003]

From my understanding, the ML cost is the amount they need to pay upfront to come work in Singapore. It is in the range of few thousand.
The ML will likely wants to earn back the money asap as they don't know when they will be caught and send back.
Some shop owner also don't pass the massage payment to the ML, so ML is simply earn from the special services provided.
It is normal for price to inflate over time, like GL also increase from 50 to 60 now.
However i don't agree with the ML special services price increase as it is too much.
From 50 to 80 for similar services, it is 60% inflation.

That is their choice and they choose to pay those greedy motherfucker agents. It is their problems and cannot use that excuse on us to pay more

[lawrene]

I see it as the side effects of what caused inflation over the world.
For now alot of peoples got money due to lock down, can't travel, stay home more, less entertainment. So can afford to spend abit more on this entertainment.
The economy is going through a tough time and some peoples will like to save some money. So the spa lack of business, i think is a natural course of business cycle. The 88 gimmick spa, i noticed some already bring down to 68. The extra service, i believe will come down soon when the new batch of ML arrived.

[Wdl_guy]

It's always about the demand and supply. Do not give in to 88 gimmicks and overpriced GQ rates. Make them "hungry" and it'll benefit consumers.

[Haveanicedayok]

Have been chionging for almost 20 years. Very infrequent chionging, My 1 cent

1. We chiong in sgp because msia chiong need time. Sgp i only need to diaappear 2 hrs. Can even slip away during work hours to relax
2. Becos of timing, we have to pay sgp rates. Cant compare the jb rates becos we use $$ to trade time and quality here
3. Agree that inflation is really quite bad, thats why i also agree if we can share intel on rates it would be good.
4. That being said, if the ml is of better quality / service, then them charging higher is to be expected. Also for mls to charge say sgd 40 an hour is not realistic. In time to come even sgd 50 per hour (current level) may not be practical. Sure have inflation.
5. V important for all bros therefore to share intel, not just snr bros. Jnr bros, pls also try out mls. Dont just keep relying on others fr

Anyhow my 1 cent worth. Dont zap me if u dont agree. Im also just a normal salaried worker.

[Heartlandlover]

来来。different ppl different opinions.
Chinese New Year Coming.
Let us be Happy. So that we can have Huat Huat Year.

Those willing to pay more just go pay more place.
Those willing to pay less just go pay less place.

Those willing to give ang bao to ml just give.
Those not willing to give ang bao just dun give.

Most important no matter which grp u fall into. Since we are all in SBF, I WISH ALL OF YOU A HUAT HUAT CNY.

Like lady assassinato bro mention. I also frequent SLG. My current preference. I know some bros dun like. But nvr mind u go where u like and u will huat huat no matter where u are.

I heading to Malaysia liao for cny visiting.

[fs1036le]

if you consider hourly wages for doing freelance:

Grab driver will earn $35 to $40 / hours (exclude petrol, monthly installment )

Massage gimmick without tips $88/ hours ( exclude rental)

It seem pretty decent thought 😁

[SgBoy86]

I feel that at the end of the day if you just wanna release, it doesn't matter if what kinda ML you engage. A 88+100 ML can make you cum, so can a 50+50 ML.

You just gonna know where to find the good MLs and protect your playgrounds. It's not about whether you can afford anot but the more you cheong, the more you see and experience. It's easy to tell what's worth or not.

Never conform, the world is big. Don't be a frog in the well. Cheers to all cheongsters and wishing everyone a Happy Chinese New Year. :)

[Peacekeeping]

来来。different ppl different opinions.
Chinese New Year Coming.
Let us be Happy. So that we can have Huat Huat Year.

Those willing to pay more just go pay more place.
Those willing to pay less just go pay less place.

Those willing to give ang bao to ml just give.
Those not willing to give ang bao just dun give.

Most important no matter which grp u fall into. Since we are all in SBF, I WISH ALL OF YOU A HUAT HUAT CNY.

Like lady assassinato bro mention. I also frequent SLG. My current preference. I know some bros dun like. But nvr mind u go where u like and u will huat huat no matter where u are.

I heading to Malaysia liao for cny visiting.

Why got bros don’t like SLG sia? They got all the advantages those $88 spa cannot give.

[lazyguy]

Why got bros don’t like SLG sia? They got all the advantages those $88 spa cannot give.

Is that alot of landmine.. maybe I did not make alot of research.. serious I did not have a gd one before for my condo meet..

[lawrene]

I agree sharing info is very important in this industry to fight against inflation.
In the past where info can be shared easily and freely, I don't recall inflation coming so fast.
Nowadays info is quite hard to share, worrying it will close down our favourite shop or ML. The SBF site is also not easy accessible for those who don't have the know how.

Have been chionging for almost 20 years. Very infrequent chionging, My 1 cent

1. We chiong in sgp because msia chiong need time. Sgp i only need to diaappear 2 hrs. Can even slip away during work hours to relax
2. Becos of timing, we have to pay sgp rates. Cant compare the jb rates becos we use $$ to trade time and quality here
3. Agree that inflation is really quite bad, thats why i also agree if we can share intel on rates it would be good.
4. That being said, if the ml is of better quality / service, then them charging higher is to be expected. Also for mls to charge say sgd 40 an hour is not realistic. In time to come even sgd 50 per hour (current level) may not be practical. Sure have inflation.
5. V important for all bros therefore to share intel, not just snr bros. Jnr bros, pls also try out mls. Dont just keep relying on others fr

Anyhow my 1 cent worth. Dont zap me if u dont agree. Im also just a normal salaried worker.

[Peacekeeping]

Is that alot of landmine.. maybe I did not make alot of research.. serious I did not have a gd one before for my condo meet..

You have to read the reviews. No reviews don’t go. This is the same method masseuse use to screen us.

[superstiffy]

I agree sharing info is very important in this industry to fight against inflation.
In the past where info can be shared easily and freely, I don't recall inflation coming so fast.
Nowadays info is quite hard to share, worrying it will close down our favourite shop or ML. The SBF site is also not easy accessible for those who don't have the know how.

last time is real care and share by bros... now is pretend share by advertisers.. all the pricing they control... if u share ur lobang sooner or later kenna delete.. thats y become like that lor... :rolleyes:

[lazyguy]

You have to read the reviews. No reviews don’t go. This is the same method masseuse use to screen us.

Review as in sammyboy or slg one.. alot fake one in slg .. haha.. will look around bah

[IlovePussylicki]

Goals of 2023

1) Stop going these SPA (88+50 =138SGD)
2) Want massage go proper massage place (50SGD)
3) Want fuck/sex go proper fuck/sex place (60SGD fuck chio viet girls at geylang house)
4) Don't mix 2 and 3.
5) 2 and 3, total damage only 50+60 = 110SGD VS 138SGD at SPA
6) Think with big head not ur small head

[CrazyKriss]

👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾 Good advice.
I generally like HJ or Bj, not into FJ's, is sex place better ?

Goals of 2023

1) Stop going these SPA (88+50 =138SGD)
2) Want massage go proper massage place (50SGD)
3) Want fuck/sex go proper fuck/sex place (60SGD fuck chio viet girls at geylang house)
4) Don't mix 2 and 3.
5) 2 and 3, total damage only 50+60 = 110SGD VS 138SGD at SPA
6) Think with big head not ur small head

[sonicwinter]

nowadays i chiong jb spa liao... cause sg fucking ex... mco time, sg spa tink they like king, cause geylang close so we nowhere to release, then sg spa up their price like crazy... now tat jb is open n tat side is more cheap, chiong there is better than u chiong sg spa... so sg spa get ready to lose businesss... sg spa can no long take n treat us like carrot to chop liao...

I agree JB is value for money if you have the means to go in. Over there even the shops (not HC) charge entry RM150 includes HJ. That’s one hour of massage plus HJ all in for less than S$50 (please don’t ask me where, I’ll just say the location is in Pelangi and if you’re experienced enough, you’ll know which are the shops to look out cos it’s very obvious). Top up maybe RM100-150 for upgrade to bbbj and fj.

SG MLs really take us for Roberts so I stay away from then unless they can offer all in FJ service for S$150 then I’ll consider. Even then it has to be a SYT and not MILF. These days very very rare.

[IamGood]

Goals of 2023

1) Stop going these SPA (88+50 =138SGD)
2) Want massage go proper massage place (50SGD)
3) Want fuck/sex go proper fuck/sex place (60SGD fuck chio viet girls at geylang house)
4) Don't mix 2 and 3.
5) 2 and 3, total damage only 50+60 = 110SGD VS 138SGD at SPA
6) Think with big head not ur small head

But if want proper massage followed by happy ending in one sitting, still have to go 1)

[CollectStamp]

But if want proper massage followed by happy ending in one sitting, still have to go 1)

$88 entry all bullshit massage one.. then GQ $50 need top up another $30 for roam and $50 for full roam

[pete_the_fish]

Now geylang open and can go JB or overseas....i don't see many reasons to go to spa and pay for HJ without any roaming included.

I will still go spa if entrance less than 60 and HJ with bra removal at 50 or at least let you go inside bra and grab and rub. :D

Geylang also inflation but i think in terms of value for money still better than go to spa lol

[ladyassasinato]

来来。different ppl different opinions.
Chinese New Year Coming.
Let us be Happy. So that we can have Huat Huat Year.

Those willing to pay more just go pay more place.
Those willing to pay less just go pay less place.

Those willing to give ang bao to ml just give.
Those not willing to give ang bao just dun give.

Most important no matter which grp u fall into. Since we are all in SBF, I WISH ALL OF YOU A HUAT HUAT CNY.

Like lady assassinato bro mention. I also frequent SLG. My current preference. I know some bros dun like. But nvr mind u go where u like and u will huat huat no matter where u are.

I heading to Malaysia liao for cny visiting.

In Malaysia, KL is the best place to cheong. :D

[sipeklong]

Goals of 2023

1) Stop going these SPA (88+50 =138SGD)
2) Want massage go proper massage place (50SGD)
3) Want fuck/sex go proper fuck/sex place (60SGD fuck chio viet girls at geylang house)
4) Don't mix 2 and 3.
5) 2 and 3, total damage only 50+60 = 110SGD VS 138SGD at SPA
6) Think with big head not ur small head

1 only HJ cost 138. 2 + 3 is FJ. Even pricier fj @ 150 still more worth than 138 hand only.

Lately i realized i visit fj place more than spa place for hj. How huh? So worried I fall in love in fj place. Lolx.
Playability at fj joint way more than spa places.

[pete_the_fish]

Will people still go spa ? Unfortunately yes.
I went to geylang to survey the girls.. knn 90% the looks cannot make it.

Geylang used to have chio girls like those you see in the spa now pre pandemic...now damn jia lat...face cmi nevermind but body also out of shape.

[asdfghjk1234]

Hi Bros,

Maybe I share my opinion. Especially the PRC. Not siding any parties in anyway.

How to determine business is bad?
If I use to earn $20k a mth in 2021/22 now I earn $8 to 10k a mth. I might say it's bad. But will I starve? To many its still a decent income.

And by lowering the price doesn't means more customers will return to massage scene. 2021 is bo bian for us, the only entertainment is massage. So even avg looking ml with lousy massage skills have 6 to 8 customers a day. Now gl n ktv is back. We men have more options. GL lovers will just go back GL. Cost effective. U see what u get. Ppl with time will travel to jb.

Soon more ML will return back to China.
China is opening up. And if things get better in China. They might as well stay in China to earn their 4-5W rmb there. Life there is much better than in sg. More freedom. Else maybe other countries that can give them better income.

So I doubt they will drop the price. Those who cannot make it will just head home. They do not have plan to stay here forever.
In fact where can make better money they will just go. The supply will gets lower to balance out the demand level.

The surge in spa shops happend during the pandemic time. Now it's time it goes back to precovid level. ML will go back. Shops might get lesser in time to come.

Therefore I doubt they will drastically reduce price. However they might offer more to earn the same amt of money. Especially those not that attractive ones. Like let u zhut or zhut u. French u. Etc...

Avg ML have approx 3 to 4 customers a day in today's market. Depending on shop location, condition and the competition within the shop itself.

There are still ml who charges for 100 hj and roaming that is hard to book.

In short those cmi ones earning less than 6k will leave our shore. The better ones will stay. Price most probably won't drop.

Why is life in china better? Those prc who come here to massage cannot get a single customer in China la. Their standard is bad

[loneyheart]

Why is life in china better? Those prc who come here to massage cannot get a single customer in China la. Their standard is bad

If life is better then will not see any single PRC in SG
20% jobless rate n many young SYT new grad can't find jobs n many retrenched too .... Many spend most of their saving during 3 years lock down ... ave income 1K .... more n more 剩女 age 25 n abv

Expecting more to come after CNY

Happy CNY bro :)

[Peacekeeping]

Will people still go spa ? Unfortunately yes.
I went to geylang to survey the girls.. knn 90% the looks cannot make it.

Geylang used to have chio girls like those you see in the spa now pre pandemic...now damn jia lat...face cmi nevermind but body also out of shape.

Haha got a lao auntie want to blow my unwashed cock for $100. I rejected her :D

[Laker]

Still going because of some ML still jio-ing me every week. I seriously need to boycott those 88 joints. 1.5 hours they change 88+44=132 with HJ at 70 already more than 200.

I feedback that it is actually expensive and not worth it. Told her I will not be visiting as often. Actually I am not planning to go back at all. Fortunately I found those with $50+50.

[Heartlandlover]

Why is life in china better? Those prc who come here to massage cannot get a single customer in China la. Their standard is bad

Lol. Cannot compare to China Dong Guan Shenzhen. Or Taiwan Taipei. Damn young and chio. And can service well. Really miss those days. Dunno now open up if things are the same.

If they go smaller city maybe they can have customers. Hahaha. But they will earn much lesser than in sg.

[IamGood]

Never go already as jb only less than 40 for massage with hj. Alas why didn’t i realise this sooner

[LanaTanpaGula]

Can still go spa if you know what you want.

OWO shops quite good. Go in, straight away ask for the special you want. Discuss the all in price. If ok take. Not ok walk out. Eg “$100 口爆?” Or “$50 打飞机” They say no just walk away. If they counter price then you decide.

Geylang far away. If I can score a good service and decent price OWO I will rtf until they return China

JB unless take leave go in afternoon. Evening jams crazy

$88 entry price spa a nono. Even $50+$50 also bad deal. You get bad massage and bad service.

Want good massage go for $68 clean massage. Please share if you know good clean massages below $60.

If got time I prefer to go Golden Mile find tourist pass Thai SYT. Can have a lot of fun. Top service.

[ezez11]

Can still go spa if you know what you want.

OWO shops quite good. Go in, straight away ask for the special you want. Discuss the all in price. If ok take. Not ok walk out. Eg “$100 口爆?” Or “$50 打飞机” They say no just walk away. If they counter price then you decide.

Geylang far away. If I can score a good service and decent price OWO I will rtf until they return China

JB unless take leave go in afternoon. Evening jams crazy

$88 entry price spa a nono. Even $50+$50 also bad deal. You get bad massage and bad service.

Want good massage go for $68 clean massage. Please share if you know good clean massages below $60.

If got time I prefer to go Golden Mile find tourist pass Thai SYT. Can have a lot of fun. Top service.

Han Dynasty offers hard, clean massage at $59 per hour. I paid 10 hours’ fee upfront and got 1 hour free. So, about $54 per hour.

[IamGood]

Han Dynasty offers hard, clean massage at $59 per hour. I paid 10 hours’ fee upfront and got 1 hour free. So, about $54 per hour.

U massage for 11hours???

[Dandankoh]

U massage for 11hours???

I think he buy package.

[ezez11]

U massage for 11hours???

It is a package. You can use 1h, or 1.5h, or 2h per visit.

[ezez11]

I think he buy package.
Yes, correct!

[pete_the_fish]

Can still go spa if you know what you want.

OWO shops quite good. Go in, straight away ask for the special you want. Discuss the all in price. If ok take. Not ok walk out. Eg “$100 口爆?” Or “$50 打飞机” They say no just walk away. If they counter price then you decide.

Geylang far away. If I can score a good service and decent price OWO I will rtf until they return China

JB unless take leave go in afternoon. Evening jams crazy

$88 entry price spa a nono. Even $50+$50 also bad deal. You get bad massage and bad service.

Want good massage go for $68 clean massage. Please share if you know good clean massages below $60.

If got time I prefer to go Golden Mile find tourist pass Thai SYT. Can have a lot of fun. Top service.

TB got $45 per hour very decent massage.....got GQ also at $50 i think....long time never go, dunno got subject to inflationary pressure or not lol

[LanaTanpaGula]

TB got $45 per hour very decent massage.....got GQ also at $50 i think....long time never go, dunno got subject to inflationary pressure or not lol

My go to clean Thai massage was $40 per hour in 2004. Then become $45, $50, $55, now $58 and always fully booked. Plus $5-$10 tip.

[HiFive]

Still going because of some ML still jio-ing me every week. I seriously need to boycott those 88 joints. 1.5 hours they change 88+44=132 with HJ at 70 already more than 200.

I feedback that it is actually expensive and not worth it. Told her I will not be visiting as often. Actually I am not planning to go back at all. Fortunately I found those with $50+50.


Where bro. Can share good lobang

[sladang]

It is a package. You can use 1h, or 1.5h, or 2h per visit.

Must buy package? no package no massage? strange ..

[Laker]

Where bro. Can share good lobang

Try those along TB road. All of them shd be ok.

[ezez11]

Must buy package? no package no massage? strange ..

No. You don’t need to buy package for massage. Only you buy 10 hours package, you will get 1 hour free.

[leedez]

Certain places still worth the money for the massage. Whole body was aching and was at my balestier office. Trying my luck to look nearby to see whether any good massage spot. It’s at corner along balestier road Bxxx Hxxxxx spa. Secured a service from a gal call Janice. A average looking but her massage is solid. Basically she know how to massage those tired spots. It’s hard to find nowadays. $60 for a solid 1 hours

[IamGood]

It is a package. You can use 1h, or 1.5h, or 2h per visit.

Can use up 11hours at one go?? Massage marathon whereby every hour change masseur

[NickGrover]

Try those along TB road. All of them shd be ok.

May I know what is TB road ?

[ezez11]

Can use up 11hours at one go?? Massage marathon whereby every hour change masseur
Ha ha…. It is possible.

[Laker]

May I know what is TB road ?
Tiong Bahru Rd

[NickGrover]

Tiong Bahru Rd

Thank you Bro Laker

[loneyheart]

Is it a must n new practice to give ic for record even u have writing into the log book for 1st timer at the SPA ?

[lazyguy]

Is it a must n new practice to give ic for record even u have writing into the log book for 1st timer at the SPA ?

I think depend on the spa owner one.. the recent one 1 well.. they don't even care... Tell them who I book.. nv even pay at counter just pass money to ml.. it not those curtain layout type.. is spa with shower in room..

[sladang]

May I know what is TB road ?

Tiong Bahru Rd

Can be Telok Blangah Rd too :D ..

[loneyheart]

I think depend on the spa owner one.. the recent one 1 well.. they don't even care... Tell them who I book.. nv even pay at counter just pass money to ml.. it not those curtain layout type.. is spa with shower in room..

I was like blur ... writing down info in log book still ask for IC n ctc then said next visit give ctc will do :p

[lazyguy]

I was like blur ... writing down info in log book still ask for IC n ctc then said next visit give ctc will do :p

Yes confirm.. just tat they keep ur database..

[tangerinesex]

I dk why sg massage spa price cannt drop, simple logic of price and demand, time have change, everytime i say can cheaper or nt they will black face say i "stingy", lolol, no wonder so many ppl go malaysia nowaday

Matter of time some of these shops will close down. Business cycles repeat themselves, and move in the shape of a sine curve - what goes up must come down. Wait for the shops that can't compete to close down, and prices to plunge. The market simply can't sustain itself.

[Newluck]

But they keep bringing in foreigners to hold and even pop up the ridiculous prices just like properties



Matter of time some of these shops will close down. Business cycles repeat themselves, and move in the shape of a sine curve - what goes up must come down. Wait for the shops that can't compete to close down, and prices to plunge. The market simply can't sustain itself.

[Amnewcomer]

Recently there's been a ML using multiple profiles of diff girls across diff platforms with the same copy paste message. Somewhere near paya lebar MRT

Just started this life recently and was worst experience so far

Opted for the advertised 90 min package, got 20 min. 10 Min in for massage ask if want bj top up 50 or fj top up 80, won't stop until I gave in so she would continue

End up not even bbbj, capped BJ wtf

After 5-10 mins had to ownself hj while autoroam

Once shoot, ask me ownself shower and rest while she disappear

End up pay 180+50 for capped BJ and some hot oil massage

Expensive lesson

I believe is the same person using multiple profiles/numbers and not even close to pic

Just be wary for profiles that reply you saying 1130-330 operating hours and a mall near paya lebar