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Originally Posted by rototime
Mature guy here, but genuinely first time wanting to try paid services, particularly massages.
Have been reading on all the feedback here, and I guess I can conclude, it's really very much hit or miss, and really just need to just randomly choose one and go try them out, and if I am lucky, I may want more, otherwise, move on try a different one..
But. How do ML differ from FL? I mean, in term of service, as I have visited some of their sites, and there are those who offer "full server" and at the same or some even lower rates then those who only offer massage and HJ? Do full service mean they still offer massage but instate of HJ, they offer FJ?
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"...and I guess I can conclude, it's really very much hit or miss, and really just need to just randomly choose one and go try them out, and if I am lucky, I may want more, otherwise, move on try a different one...."
My take is... (long winded; pls don't click on spoiler if not interested to read)
( Click to show/hide )I think u can observe the MRs here, just steer away from those who bad MRs. But if new, u might not be able to book the more popular ones (those frequently mentioned) due to the lack of a track record. but there are some good ones that are still bookable (mentioned sometime last week when another bro asked), ask them to put your number into their databases.
Once in the normal swing of things. I think there are a number of bros here whose MRs are sincere and genuine. It is just that u have to try enough ladies and soon you will see certain bros preference and hence, how they write their FRs. Different guys like different looks, body, age, treatment, after all. For example for me, I like young, slim, long legs, I don't care about the massage, I value the GFE more than service (some guys like to really be treated like a king). So my session is considered a very good session even when there is zero massage, no service, but I feel like I just visited a mistress for a tryst.
When u find a couple of bros who share similar tastes as u, just follow their FRs. You can contribute too while you do your exploration also. Other bros will also get a sense of your taste when they visit ladies based on your MRs. I'd say I've almost never stepped on a landmine when visiting ladies this method. I only remember 2 lousy experiences in the past year and both was coz I backside itchy went to commando without FRs (both ladies were decent looking but the service was like shit). I'd say my commando hit rate is about 50%.
The key thing is need to you need to invest and go and try. after clocking enough visits (and paying your dues in landmines) then u really understand what me and many bros here mean.
"...How do ML differ from FL? I mean, in term of service, as I have visited some of their sites, and there are those who offer "full server" and at the same or some even lower rates then those who only offer massage and HJ? Do full service mean they still offer massage but instate of HJ, they offer FJ?..."
My take is... (long winded; pls don't click on spoiler if not interested to read)
( Click to show/hide )MLs are ladies who advertise to offer massage services primarily. Some will have a BJ rate. Within the ad, it will say full-nude or topless, can touch where. So when booking, what one can expect will be these advertised services. Where it gets interesting is if you build a rapport with some of them, you might be allowed to go further (hence the words "further intimacies depends on you and the lady" in SLG). This is what some bros find fun here. to see if they can go further with these ladies, myself included. Mind you think can end up being be more expensive than looking for a FL straight up. How I see this is, I am paying 120 to preview or survey the lady for the first time. If I dig her attributes and assess that I can go further, I will RTM and work on her (at this time, I'd already feel my 120 per visit is good enough even if there's no further I can go anyway, and I'll stop if I find her stale). If the first visit fail, then don't RTM. You will notice that keeping this up can really be costly. so do make sure you are financially able to play this game. And for MLs, bear in mind that your mileage might vary; many of these ladies don't mind going further, but they want to be selective of their customers too and it is why they don't advertise as FLs. I guess guys who get to go further also get an ego boost, hence it makes the game a bit addictive too.
FL... is more straightforward. U visit knowing you will definitely fuck and you know the price you are going to pay. So it comes down to the experience while you are there. Most FLs do offer massage, but don't expect good massage, they are here primarily to be make money via fucking, not massage.
Some FLs may not be very good looking but might make up for it with very good service, and vice versa. Once in awhile u can find one that good looking and have good service. These are what some bros call gems. Again, you can rely on FRs of bros who have similar taste as yourself to get a better hit rate. For me knowing the other bros taste is important. Some are really ok with pimple face ladies with good bod and great service, while at the same time turned off by things like armpit hair, while for im the opposite; too many blemishes on face I cannot, but I am ok if the lady has armpit hair (rare these days) and hairy bush. Some even see if their teeth are straight or not. So really have to take note of these bros preferences in FRs.
Overall for both FLs and MLs, I also think there is a time factor involved. In general ladies who are fresh off the boat tend to go all out to please to build their biz here. Once they are more established, standards may fall. Most humans are like that.
So for newbies, some times it is not bad to help the lao jiaos out and go commando new comers. Can gain experience, and some times can get good returns. I believe all the more senior chionging bros here also paid their dues already.