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Old 12-05-2009, 01:20 PM
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Post Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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1. She no different from any PRC...2nd words always ask "You have GF?"
2. Told you buy ointment enuh liao
3. Stretch marks...i also noticed le...on thigh la...
4. No use closing her thread when others will open new one and boom you
5. I know she good at KC and she's an octopus, otherwise wont kena shot i your thread
6. Wanna try "sikh" girl? 19 yo...just got her ctc
Yah officially join the ANTI-KC club liao...

Yesterday keep grumbling to my friend...why can a girl change so fast because of money...

Scared liao lah....especially girls who can lied so well...cannot SPOT any change in the expression...
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Yah officially join the ANTI-KC club liao...

Yesterday keep grumbling to my friend...why can a girl change so fast because of money...

Scared liao lah....especially girls who can lied so well...cannot SPOT any change in the expression...
money is the root of all evil, bro. If you can afford to PAY, then they will agree to your WAY. Ultimately, as you know most PRCs are here for $$ only. The rest doesnt really matters to them.

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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Bros what is kc? Pardon me pls
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Old 12-05-2009, 01:54 PM
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Its a process of being milked for things with monetrary value. Can be currency or luxury goods or other goods under the false impression of love and feelings. Basically a con job by free lance hookers and other undesirables or even a non working girl. One is conned to give under the aura of love. The profile is usually a PRC or Flip, Viet girl but can be your average SG girl too. This is not true of all gals but if you were to racially or ethnically profile they would fall into those classes.

Some in SG, after being "KCed" end up filing for bankruptcy and/or divorce, some lose their professional livelyhood due to bordering on insanity due to the betrayal. Some I have read commit suicide. Some marry the girl and even have childeren with them only to sprial downward.

Its a slippery slope into the abyss. A dark path to self-destruction. The perpetrator has no remorse for their act or no feelings when they are "KCing" you.

Be forewarned to stay away from generating feelings for some of the bitches.
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:23 PM
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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Yah officially join the ANTI-KC club liao...

Yesterday keep grumbling to my friend...why can a girl change so fast because of money...

Scared liao lah....especially girls who can lied so well...cannot SPOT any change in the expression...
Guys... relax lah.. casualties are part of war.

There are always those who act very well but to me, unless I am ready or prepared to marry them. It should not matter as long as I remain in control and not over promise or give things in hope of something in return.

Bro.. I know you are hurt by wat she did but then if she had stayed true to you or the boss, would either of you take care of her future?

If we are not prepared to give without asking for return, then we should not.. else we ony risk to lose ourselves,
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Old 12-05-2009, 02:50 PM
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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Yah officially join the ANTI-KC club liao...

Yesterday keep grumbling to my friend...why can a girl change so fast because of money...

Scared liao lah....especially girls who can lied so well...cannot SPOT any change in the expression...
Correction...its the "Only-KC-Traits"...no feeling involved just KCing. Short form is...
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

i suppose many middle-aged men especially, could fall prey easily to KC by FLs/WLs... this could be that the "flame" with the spouse is a mere flicker now...

with more spending power, visits to KTVs and/or some FLs, can rekindle that flame all over again...and especially if one is not mentally framed to understand that all these WL/FL want is money, then their KC-ing can really get these men into trouble.

me too, on occasions, can find myself sucked into this game of "sex for money, love is NOT free"... when i was in super good mood, i did purchase small gifts now and then for those whom i favoured... but luckily, i do not offer any more than material things...afterall, i cant offer a long term and real relationship...so, i guess, it worked out ok...

as time went on, i discovered that the best way to deal with KC is to simply treat these FLs/WLs as service providers...they know they need to KC us, in exchange for money....and that's what we should do... let them pamper us...view that as a service given..at the end of that session, pay and move on to more critical things in life... whenever, we need a fix, call, arrange, receive, pay and move on again...maybe to the next one...

moving onto the next one, could well be another way to ensure one doesn't get too "familiar" with any one particular FL/WL... frankly, humans are emotional beings...there's no way we can hardened ourselves to the extend that we don't "feel"....that'll be tragic if we did... so, in order not to get "emotionally involved" becos of prolonged servicing by one same FL/WL, one could choose a new face, a new service provider..

in any case, it can be more refreshing and perhaps, a different story to hear as well....hahahaha...

enjoy...pay, fuck and move on to a new one....as a friend would put it... conquer this mountain...the next one awaits....
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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I keep looking at the photos/videos we took in HCMC
I very eager to see her again in Sillypore/HCMC
I call her at least 3 times a week, yahoo chat twice a week, multiple sms in a day
I can't find anymore gals interesting to KC in JC/GL
I have not bonk anyone since returning from HCMC

OH NO...
OH YES...
I have been KC-ed by a viet gal
Bro, only you yourself can answer this honestly. And how you want to move on from here is entirely up to you.

To me, there's no escaping the fact that we being humans have emotions, and emotions can be manipulated in situations like commercial sex context. Guys are sexually predatory, gals are sexually manipulative. There's a saying that our happiest moment is also our weakest. That is when the WL/FL will have the easiest access to your heart and plant an emotional time bomb before you realise whatz going on.

Be forewarned, be armed and be prepared to diffuse the "bomb"; else if you crash and burn, there's still many bros here who will offer their generous advice how to get over and recover from your devastation.

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Old 12-05-2009, 05:25 PM
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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Bro, only you yourself can answer this honestly. And how you want to move on from here is entirely up to you.

To me, there's no escaping the fact that we being humans have emotions,

.......if you crash and burn, there's still many bros here who will offer their generous advice how to get over and recover from your devastation.

Cheers!
Yah. Its up to me to see how i wanna move on

Emotion is the thing I am looking for. I have been and still is in the viet scene for sometimes and KC-ed many vn gals till I seems to be emotionless. Seems like a predator always trying to get his prey. Moving on from 1 prey to the other. Sometimes even KC 2-3 gals at one time. I am immune to the 'em yeu anh', em nho anh' kind of sms liao. Sometimes I even help them sms to their customer.

$ and time is always involve when I play the game but I am always looking after my ROI. If I sense that the 'asking for alot $' thing is coming, I move on to next target. If I sense that the gal is not an easy target, I also move on. Only gals who never ask for $ and willing to spend time with me, I will keep them till they find a customer who is willing to spurge alot $$ on them. These are the ones who eventually become my FB.

In this game, you lose some, you gain some. But seems like I lost my emotion.

Question to bro who play the KC game.... At times, do you feel inhuman and emotionless?
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Old 12-05-2009, 05:39 PM
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Bros, I really don't understand what the problem is. Big head should advise that if a woman is out here in Singapore working as potential FL/KTV hostess/masseus etc... chances are she's willing to play for pay right.

Now can you act all indignant and surprised when she gets bored once you're no longer able to spring the bills or a better prospect comes along???

Think Bro, Think!!! Just as we have bros here who cheong with wife, makes no difference for girl to upgrade once they find better prospect. Lots of bros talk cock to girls about how she's so beautiful etc, and the next syt come along his mind already fantasizing on his next bonk.

I've been a robert a coupla times. I remember when I first started out, I buy LV for a girl I just met for 2 days. While that was a significant cash outlay to me (I know some bigshot like **ahem** James Cheong <roll eyes> the 2-3K USD is nothing, but its still alot to me). However, at the same time, I know its just for fun and not expecting her to be faithful and loyal to me forever for this kind of crap.

Have fun, enjoy life. Go through with no expectations, always wear a rubber and trust me, u'll be much happier. If a girl drop you, don't get mad, find another one. Life goes on... Understand these girls are out to secure as much cash as possible in a limited time while their looks and ability to hook a man are still effective. Most of them come from limited or poorer means so why begrudge them their choice in life. Its not a simple decision to go into this line of work so they have their reasons too...

Spend what you can afford to spend and if you get too invested, stand back and reassess... somethings you can see you're being foolish then stop lah and stop crying about spoilt milk.

I think the most pathetic guy is someone who screams and wails when a WL takes advantage of him.... WHAT DID U BLOODY EXPECT???
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Question to bro who play the KC game.... At times, do you feel inhuman and emotionless?
Hell YES!
Not at times but all the time.
But do not feel inhuman, cos you're just reciprocating what you get.
If you play this long, you'll learn to tango wif them.

Let me give you an example that happened to me and a singer not too long ago
WL: Funny le, last nite i dreamt of you
Me: Sigh, I know, but thanks for saying, me have dreamt of you countless times but shy to say
WL: This happened during dinner when we were sitting opposite a mirror.....Wah, dun you notice that we look alike??? Wah, so coincidental
ME: haha, now then you notice ah, i noticed it since i 1st met you, that's why i always date you out & support you...缘分啦
WL: Then how?????
Me: Since fated, be my woman, you will be the hottest & richest, NO HESITATION FROM HER
WL: OK!

This drama went on all the way for a week and i told her to F off on the 8th day
Inhuman, yeah, but again, you just goin with the flow.
Cos all the things she said, IS TO TRAP YOU ONLY!
Remember the basic common traits that's still very widely used:

感情计
同情计
希望计

It will most definitely start from one of the above
Like i always say, to catch a thief, you gotta be a bigger thief
To catch a ghost like WLs, you better be a DEVIL!
Else sure die jialat jialat
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

bros closetspaceful and do_you_bj....

very well articulated... i almost agree with all you have said...

me..only 1 humble point... will give a bro closetspaceful first...since obviously, he needs it more now....and then power on again...will upz bro do_you_bj

cheers...

yeah....play their game...play with them...and of cos, play them...but never let them play you like a robert...
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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Question to bro who play the KC game.... At times, do you feel inhuman and emotionless?
Definitely emotionless, but not inhuman because at the end of the day my conscious is clear that I played the game by the rules. At the end of my tango with them I did not cheat their hard-earned money nor made them commit any crime.

Know where to draw the line. Never betray your soul.
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Things you do and see define who you are. What you deem as inhumane may not be the same as me, as with anyone else. A soldier who uses his rifle on a civilian may deem himself to be inhumane, but if he sees a terrorist slice the head off a reporter with a pocket knife, he would believe what he did is actually quite justified and humanitarian in a way. One only wants to kill while the other wants to torture an innocent life to prove his point.

If you can't cross into an area you deem as inhumane, then you remain 'human' lo. Its all what you have in your borders what. Firstly you never see what they are capable of doing, how can you justify your actions to your conscience? If you never kenna KC, how do you know what you're doing to another?

Again it depends on your generalisation of WLs. People keep saying do not generalise, there are difference in the haystack. Such people give views like 'she is different from the rest'. Hell yeah. You wanna know what is inhuman? Get out to the world and see it as it is.
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Interesting thread, I went back and read many of the pages.

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as time went on, i discovered that the best way to deal with KC is to simply treat these FLs/WLs as service providers...moving onto the next one, could well be another way to ensure one doesn't get too "familiar" with any one particular FL/WL... frankly, humans are emotional beings...there's no way we can hardened ourselves to the extend that we don't "feel"....that'll be tragic if we did.
Never rtf is common guidance to samsters, and I agree that for most folks that's the necessary protection to ensure no emotional involvement. I actually prefer to RFT bc I like the illusion of GFE, which for most does improve dramatically with RTF, taking out to dinner with no sex, etc. But for me, I do as you do, always make it clear they are a service provider, without saying so. So I never take a free bonk, always give them some money.

Another thing that some may find is that I (almost) never lie to them. So if they ask if I bonked other WLs in this KTV, I say "yes". Or if I visit other singers in HFJ ditto. Not only do I find this easier, but I think it also sends the clear signal to WL that of course this will never go anywhere no matter how often I see you, as only my wife is important enough to lie to!

Bro RJ, thanks also for your recent KTV observations, very thorough and for me helpful for one I have yet to visit!
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