How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Wah good good faster faster then newbie like me can learn a thing or two hehehehe

[HairyBottom]

Originally Posted by marlborotan

Good advise bro. Up my humble sticks of hoon kee to you. Quick continue hor, I'm crossing liao

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro,

I hv had similiar encounters in the past. You avoided falling into a KC trap, that's great.

I'm most interested in this potentially very risky game...it's definitely not for the faint of heart...n I know I could be the one getting burnt, but then again, life is either a daring adventure or nothing, hahaha.

Good day!!

u 2 bros also here? must be being lured in by the thread title...just like me...haha.

admired your ambition and confidence to play KC game bro warbird...these kinda game not for me...me always no luck with WL...until now still no chance to try Jelly!

[mike1304k]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Wah good good faster faster then newbie like me can learn a thing or two hehehehe

Bro DYBJ,

You the sifu or the sifu.... You should be like the examiner.... give marks for TS.... Band 1 or Band 2.

But bros, please hor... just my humble opinion, do not try to KC trap people because just like you do not want to be trapped, please do not try to do so to others lah.... Some more, unless you really heartless SOB who can slap and stamp on a girl when she is crying her eyes out, just pay and run lah.... Flame me if you want, but I learnt this the hard way lah.... Look for trouble, trouble will find you. Don't forget "Hell knows no fury like a woman scorned". There are threads out there of how revengeful WL and Fl will do their best to destroy the guys who took them. Personally I was also stalked before. The lady called my home at least 30 times, my office another 30 times and my handphone 100 times. Nearly caused me to lose my job. She also came to my house everyday to make sure I was at home or not... leave notes and so on. Lucky she did not turn nasty... Or worse still go legal... She can claim I raped her...molest her or what and no matter how hard it is to say I am innocent, I would find it difficult to prove it.... Just my opinion like I said. Nothing against Bro TS. I even upped him for a good thread.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Actually, no pun intended in my post but the art of KCing is something like a virus.
Find a cure, it will morph into a newer strain and thus, the battle to outwit is an ever evolving thing.

To me, the usual stuff apply:
Show care but dun really care
Make her feel love but dun love
Lend a listening ear but deaf
Lend her your shoulder to cry on but think of something else whilst she's crying her lungs out
Always say that women cry irritates you more than softens you
Never reveal true identity...call Mr Tan but tell her you Mr Chan
Never give out business card...if you do, give one that you resigned donkey years ago, better if that company close down liao
Never let her know where you stay...stay in katong say stay Choa Chu Kang
Tell her must earn her keep no free rides on this earth
Never feel pity.....whether she cry till collapse or not, just stand firm...HEARTLESS

The whole success of any KC is to remember, what you can make and decipher on her motives, do not for a second think she isnt able to decipher yours...its all about outwitting.
Like wat bro XYZ1001 said, thick face black heart.
You know what you want from the very start, that's to conquer and finish off this fresh pasture and off to the next.
From this statement, what makes you think she isnt thinking the same????????

The golden rule of not getting into any KC situtation that will disadvantage oneself is to know, once you have feel for this individual, walk away & cut ties.
Like wat bro Harvest mentioned, have a good think of her.
Always use this scenerio.
Visualise that this is a WL that you're fond of.....are you KCed yet? NO! Getting there but no there yet.
Next, imagine you're dumping her etc or making her heart break conciously and she crys her lungs out....visualise this, if you can see that you'll feel nottin, go for it. If it even tickles your heart a little, move off...dun play laio cos you already on unfirm ground.

To me, that's the most important rule and line to measure....cos that's like the holy grail liao, moment of truth...once cross, to return, painful man!!!!

[Optimus_Prime]

Firstly, I like to congratulate Bro Harvest on an extremely well-written thread. A lot of what he writes is true.

Just to add my 2 cents worth.



Just know the 2 GOLDEN TRUTHS of surviving in this KC/WL etc thingie



1. No amount of guide or sound advise is enough. Everyone will feel they are special and it won't happen to them. But it DOES ! You just have to walk the path and FAIL a few times before you get smart. There is no shortcuts.




2. Never... ever... ever... think you are smarter than a WL. There are always new tricks you have not seen, there are always new ways of conning their way into your heart. Never think you know all their tricks. Like the old saying, there is always a higher mountain waiting after this.

[juzplay]

All the advices sound decent... alas...

[mike1304k]

Clap Clap Clap!!! You have said the right thing!!! Do not think you are smarter. Like I said... every scenario, just use big head and the brain inside. Every move.. also use both.... Once you think you have a tickle in the heart... run far far away....

Many will say "my heart is made of steel" or they may think they know enough to "play" the lady... but I have also seen many who have died by the wayside.... crying their hearts out at what they lost... The girl has a thousand ways to trap us and the unforunate thing is we guys do not think with the right head sometimes.

My previous experience with a Thai teerak is a classic example.... After licking my wounds from being mauled by KTV teeraks... I had a massage lady... She opened up to me that she had a kid too... Everything very open, everything very GFE and nice. After a few months of her constantly coming to my hotel room to give me massage, she would not initiate anything. even cuddling or hugging. So comes the trap, my little brother and ego started to say "ok lah.... nice lady lah" and so started to hug.. After a few more months, it became more physical and one day, we got hot and wanted to do it... She said " Don wori... I do not sleep with any client... I am clean... You know me"..... F man.... I know you only the time you are with me... Lord knows what the hell you do in your spare time.... and also if I go in raw... wat happens if the KC trap is sprung.... Months later.... some bouncing baby comes out and calls me "papa"? So I told her... I know her and trust her... but I have been a naughty boy and do not want to expose her to anything.... then whipped out a rubber... did it with her... Kiss and cuddled... then after saying goodbye.... deleted her number.... getting too close liao... danger liao.... either she spring trap or I will also fall.... So that is the story my brothers.... use brains at every move....

[leecs]

DO U BJ:

Thanks for your advice. I will follow your steps & be ruthless!!!!!

[HCKing]

Originally Posted by leecs

DO U BJ:

Thanks for your advice. I will follow your steps & be ruthless!!!!!

wat happen to yr wife and PRC girl story? gt any latest development or still hanging there? share share leh.

[Harvest]

Thanks again to the senior bros here who have selflessly offered their own words of wisdom and sharing of their experiences.

Before I carry on, here is something that I would like to clarify: What I'm sharing here are NOT dirty tricks to cheat the WL!! If you squarely equate KC= CHEATING, then I'm sorry to say that your narrow-mindedness will only get you that far in life. As I've mentioned in my intro of this thread, the purpose of my sharing here is to offer new/inexperienced bros methods and tips on how to play the game wisely - to seduce instead of being seduced in the commercial sex environment. The intention is to help them optimize their bonking experiences (thru KC-ing the WL) without being caught up by emotional baggages (being KC-ed in the end). In no way am I referring "to seduce" as in "to cheat" the WL! If you are looking for some unscrupulous, under-table means or dirty tricks to seduce the WL with the intention of cheating her, YOU WILL NOT FIND ANY HERE! In fact, I would DESPISE you!! Pls leave this thread immediately!! I hope I've made myself very clear... thank you.

To be continued...

[ez.link]

Don't be angry. relax!

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro, you're a sage!

But to KC a WL/FL/KTV gal, one must intentionally turn the RTFs into "non-commercial bonk" n engage her outside closed door. Your title is "How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her" n if one always obeys Rule #3, how could one KC the gal? Following all ur 3 Rules religiously will merely prevent one from getting KCed. Pls clarify. I'm eagerly awaiting ur insights n trade secrets, hahaha.

Thx a lot!

Bro, I think you have mistaken... Based on my Rule #3, you must make sure that every RTF visit is still a bonk regardless whether itz a commercial or non-commercial basis. So you can still KC the gal as long as the main dish is sex! Rule #3 is to guard against the progress to non-sexual RTF visits, which is an ALARM to warn us of crossing the KC line of no return.

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by GreenHorny

haha, nice post on how to avoid KC-ed
as what many bros advise down here, always let your big head rule your heart and small head.
Any advices on how to KC a WL?

The guide on how to KC the WL will be coming up soon... stay tuned.

[HCKing]

Originally Posted by Harvest

The guide on how to KC the WL will be coming up soon... stay tuned.

camping here for more. thanks 4 sharing bro. hehe.

[Harvest]

TECHNICAL EXECUTION

This is probably the part that most bros are waiting for. You are horny, you've selected your target and you're armed with an emotional force field after going thru the visualization process and mental preparation. Whatz next? Time to rock 'n roll! Now here's the tricky part... According to Rule #1, no emotions should be involved in commercial sex. But isn't it true that when you RTF and KC your WL there will be emotions involved? YES and NO. You can experience emotions of LUST but you don't have to have emotions of LOVE/ROMANCE. You can look the part and play the part of KC-ing as if you are really falling for her without any lost of control.

P.S. Guys, a gentle reminder again that when u decide to play this KC game you must be ready to pull hand-brake anytime! The Rules cannot be broken! Here's the guide on executing the engagement:

1. If this is the first time you are patronizing her, you want to leave an above-average impression. So be a nice guy and for goodness' sake, LOWER your EXPECTATIONS no matter what you have read from the FRs. Her primary duty is to satisfy your lust and her secondary duty is to provide good customer service hoping that you will RTF. So move with the flow... smile and do some small talk to break the ice. Ask a mixture of routine (eg. "Taken your meal?") and light-hearted (eg. "The perfume smells familiar...Channel?") questions that are easy-going and non-threatening. If she is the more daring type and start frenching you etc, move with the flow and show her that you are game for it. Give her the impression that you are a little lost lamb about to be devoured by a big bad wolf... Haha. She'll love it.

2. During the foreplay/sex, take mental notes of her style/preferences/habits so that you can "score points" when opportunities arrive. For example: I have one regular WL that likes to blow me with me standing up and she kneeling down. Usually it is done on the bed but one day I spontaneously "ambushed" her before she's even ready to step onto the bed so she has no choice but to kneel on the floor. I took the chance to stop her blowing halfway and offered her a pillow to rest her knees on. She was surprised but declined. So I threw the pillow back on the bed and sarcastically remarked that she doesn't appreciate my kindness. She burst into laughter and said she knows I "cared" for her and she is very happy. Needless to say we had a very fantastic bonk that evening to say the very least.

3. Here's a little secret many, many WLs have told me time and again: The 2 most important sexual skills that a customer can leave a lasting impression.... kissing and cunnilingus! All ladies like a good kiss esp those type that are tender yet passionate, not those aggressive + saliva all over the place type! So watch your salivas, dude! For cunnilingus, OMG I can write a whole book on this but basically, keep your tongue well-LUBRICATED. Start with a variety of motion, but end with CONSISTENCY and SPEED! If she doesn't want to climax, pls be a gentleman and don't force your way to make her to! For women, the pleasure from a good tonguing itself is often more than enough to impress her!

4. Here's another little known secret on foreplay: Caress her hair and glide your fingers thru them while you are kissing/frenching her. Look her in the eyes once a while and STARE at them LOVINGLY for at least 5 secs before you continue kissing again. The eyes are the windows to her soul, Mr Cassanova! When you know her better, you can also whisper sweet nothings into her ears. ("Your hair smells so nice... Your skin feels so soft and tender... I missed you so much... etc") But whisper the sweet nothings SPARINGLY, not too often, and say it like as if you MEAN it to create maximum effect on her neuro-senses and make her crave for more.

5. And please guys, save the flowers/presents in your RTFs!! Very important! For goodness' sake this is not your usual bf/gf kind of r/s so there's absolutely no need to KC her that way. Remember that most of her other Roberts are doing just the same so to stand out from the crowd you have to be different! As you RTF, approach her with a certain dose of COCKINESS! Make some sarcastic jokes and tease her from time to time. "Huh? You are wearing this bra/panties again ah? So obiang... your grandma's one is it??" The idea is to crack her up, let her guard down subconsciously and make her feel more CONNECTED to you with each RTF visit.

****IMPORTANT: Put on your emotional FORCE FIELD always!! No matter how "loving" you appear to be. Focus on your LUST for her, focus on the great SEX, but NEVER focus on HER!!! ****

To be continued...