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Old 20-02-2009, 01:07 AM
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How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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After patronizing the commercial sex world for well over a decade or so, I have experienced my fair share of seduction encounters from all kinds of WLs like most bros here. In my early years, I also fell easily into the KC trap, got burned but luckily managed to emerge stronger and wiser. However, a number of my ex-cheonging kakis weren't so fortunate. I've sadly witnessed the fall of some of the brightest and promising young men who never really recovered... one turned into an unscrupulous crook, another is seeking treatment for depression, while some others ended up divorced or crushed under a mountain of debt... all in the name of "love". The purpose of this sharing is to help and guide bros who are new/inexperienced in this KC game to know the rules and (hopefully) benefit from some methods/tips on how I engage them successfully after years of practice to seduce without being seduced. Now before I proceed, pls read below...

WARNING! This how-to guide is intended for emotionally-matured bros who wants to have a great time in a commercial sex setting without getting caught with an emotional baggage. Not suitable for mommy's boys, cry babies, or spoilt brads having school holidays! The game of seduction is an exciting but dangerous game. If you are man enough to play, don't come around here and cry father cry mother if you got burnt! There is absolutely no guarantee that what works for me will work for you. Past performance is not a guarantee for future performance! Proceed at your own risk!!

With the disclaimer in place, let's begin...

PRELUDE

Ok guys, you are horny (who isn't?). You read some delicious FRs in this forum and decided to check the chick out. On your way, you begin to fantasize the outcome of your sexual encounter. Face: 9/10? Wow. BBBJ: 10/10? Wow. GFE: 11/10? Wow! Wow! Your saliva starts dripping as the blood flows down to your member. You prayed hard your ratings will be roughly the same. The chick did not disappoint you alright. In fact she was all you could ask for and MORE... She was so passionate it never felt so good. She was so skillful you wondered why you are still with your current gf/wife (if you have one). She gave you the ultra CFM look to affirm that you are the most DESIRABLE man in the whole world. She hugged and kissed like you are all she's ever wanted in a man. Your ego is boosted right thru the roof. You find yourself floating on sexual cloud 9. As you leave, she said she hope to see you again and deep in your heart you have already booked for the next RTF even before you store her number in your phone.

When you left, you kept thinking of her and the wonderful experience. Then you received her SMS. She said she missed you. Next day she asked you when are you coming to see her again. You saved her SMSes and looked at them whenever you are free... in the toilet, during lunch break, even when you are driving and waiting for the traffic lights to turn green... You could hardly wait for your next payday to arrive so that you can RTF her again.

Sounds too familiar? Congrats! The WL has just planted a "seduction seed" in you waiting to germinate!

First things first... Guys, here are the 3 Rules of Engagement in commercial sex:

Rule #1: Fuck and Fuck Off

To put it simply - No emotions involved for this money-for-pussy transaction. When the whole deed is over, it is OVER. Next target!

Rule #2: If you RTF, remind yourself of Rule #1!

Granted. Since the bonk was so wonderful, you plan to RTF and perhaps keep this WL as one of your regular sex companions. You want to seduce her to try your luck in getting some "preferential treatments" from her. Fine. But in order to be an effective rules player, you have to SINK Rule #1 deep into your coconut head BEFORE you RTF. How to do that? I'll touch on that later.

Rule #3: If you find yourself RTF-ing to the extend that it doesn't seems like a commercial bonk anymore...STOP the RTF immediately!

Very, very important. If you find your sessions with the WL becoming non-bonking sessions and replaced by non-sexual activities (eg. just hug and chat) you MUST absolutely STOP the RTF and change target!! Or else you will be in danger of crossing the KC line of NO RETURN!!

To be continued...
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Good advice. 7up from me.

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interesting thread..can't wait for more
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Interesting read bro Harvest...reminds me of my own experience with a Malaysian WL...hope u dont mind me sharing..

It happened 3 years ago when i visited one Health Centre and was assigned this Malaysian girl A. As usual..it was another of my fuck and forget session to satisfy my horniness. However..this time girl A looks did match the kinda girl i have always fancy...tall...hourglass figure...demure...gentle and classy. Oh boy wat a lucky day..i was telling myself...so we started off with some ice breaking and eventually ended the session with a good rub and sex.

It was a very satisfying sexperience for me...as i was impressed not only by her service..her attitude..but most importantly she has the looks of the type of girl i have always desired. In short..she was my dream girl. So inevitably...i went back for her...and slowly we began to click and chatted like old friends whenever we see each other. we would tease one another..chatted about current affairs..listened to her complaints of bad customers etc...at the same time her service got better and better..probably owing it to my frequent RTF sessions which enabled her to understand my needs better and the kinda sex i desired. There wasnt a single dull moment in our every sessions..sometimes i would share with her some of my problems and she would listen attentively and gave me encouragement...as time passed by i no longer see her as a WL...my feelings for her grew after each RTF...no..i should say OUR feelings for each other grew. ( that was how i felt during that time ) I started asking for her number...and tried to date her out after work..but she would always politely declined..giving reasons like inconvenient and tired etc. Still i didnt give up...

Then came the day i dropped her an obvious hint that i liked her..and was willing to 'take care' of her...she was taken aback...and till today i still rem wat she answered me...' i am here to clear my debts..if a guy wants to be my boyfriend is he willing to be responsible for my debts as well? ' tears started forming in her eyes as she spoke...i kept quiet.

I couldnt sleep that night...kept thinking about her and her reply..was she telling me the truth? Or was it just another polite way of rejection? Am i prepared to shoulder her debts responsiblility if i go steady with her? No...i couldnt..as i was just a normal income earner...reality hit me hard...i decided to forget her and move on...and i stopped looking for her since then.

Now thinking back...i believed i had made the right move...as illustrated in your 3rd rule..if i failed...i shrudder to think how it might have lead to otherwise.
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

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Now thinking back...i believed i had made the right move...as illustrated in your 3rd rule..if i failed...i shrudder to think how it might have lead to otherwise.
Bro, u have made the most correct move in ur life... If u have taken the other path, I wonder will u still be as happy as now??...
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[B][SIZE="5"]First things first... Guys, here are the 3 Rules of Engagement in commercial sex:

Rule #1: Fuck and Fuck Off

To put it simply - No emotions involved for this money-for-pussy transaction. When the whole deed is over, it is OVER. Next target!

Rule #2: If you RTF, remind yourself of Rule #1!

Granted. Since the bonk was so wonderful, you plan to RTF and perhaps keep this WL as one of your regular sex companions. You want to seduce her to try your luck in getting some "preferential treatments" from her. Fine. But in order to be an effective rules player, you have to SINK Rule #1 deep into your coconut head BEFORE you RTF. How to do that? I'll touch on that later.

Rule #3: If you find yourself RTF-ing to the extend that it doesn't seems like a commercial bonk anymore...STOP the RTF immediately!

Very, very important. If you find your sessions with the WL becoming non-bonking sessions and replaced by non-sexual activities (eg. just hug and chat) you MUST absolutely STOP the RTF and change target!! Or else you will be in danger of crossing the KC line of NO RETURN!!

To be continued...
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Nice one... but I usually cannot control... maybe faulty chipset..
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How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

Very, very important. If you find your sessions with the WL becoming non-bonking sessions and replaced by non-sexual activities (eg. just hug and chat) you MUST absolutely STOP the RTF and change target!! Or else you will be in danger of crossing the KC line of NO RETURN!!

To be continued...
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Nice one... but I usually cannot control... maybe faulty chipset..
Yup...maybe easy to say then done. Perhaps undergo a few bad experience and encounters will make you more wisely on your next "target".
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Rule #3: If you find yourself RTF-ing to the extend that it doesn't seems like a commercial bonk anymore...STOP the RTF immediately!
Stage 1 and 2 i passed liao, now at stage 3...
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Bro, u have made the most correct move in ur life... If u have taken the other path, I wonder will u still be as happy as now??...
confirm not as happy bro...haha...my intention was to jio her go steady that time...just like any other normal BGR...but certainly not prepared to help her clear her debts. Me not so noble..come to think of it..i was lucky then as she was a kind hearted girl to keep turning down my advance..helping me to see the line..if she was a malicious one she would have make use of my feelings to her advantage and given me hell. phew...
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Re: How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

haha, nice post on how to avoid KC-ed
as what many bros advise down here, always let your big head rule your heart and small head.
Any advices on how to KC a WL?
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Nice one... but I usually cannot control... maybe faulty chipset..

Bro it is not faulty chipset... It is called Ego!! Basically the problem with most men is that their ego's come into play. A girl makes them feel good, ego's come in to play. Waaahhh feels so good.... better than my wife or GF. If the girl calls you "Lau Gong" you feel honoured.. "waaaahhh, such a sexy being called me husband"... and if she gives you sad sob stories of clearing debt, wanting to go straight, again ego comes in and you feel like you have to be the knight in shining armour.

Some people will be able to kill the ego. Some find it difficult. I met a VN while on a business trip many years ago. For 4 solid days, we met, she gave me such a great GFE feeling, and she really took care of me. But then she started her nonsense, lost money lah.... have to marry an American to work there lah and so on... I just said good luck to her. I could have given her 400-500 a month and she would have been pretty well off in VN. But I told myself that even though it felt great, what was the outcome I wanted? Sex? Wife? Friendship? I wanted nothing of the above, so I just cut it. She was crying so pitifully over the phone, but I told myself.. What bullshit... You asked for it man.

So like I said bro don let your ego take over. Use you brains and use your senses. We are all walking ATM's for them. If we are super strong and can give them all they ever need, better not think about trying to straighten them. But in so saying, there are some who are sick of the trade and are lookinh for an out... so you gotta really be careful.
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How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

© Harvest 2009. All rights Reserved.

Introduction

After patronizing the commercial sex world for well over a decade or so, I have experienced my fair share of seduction encounters from all kinds of WLs like most bros here. In my early years, I also fell easily into the KC trap, got burned but luckily managed to emerge stronger and wiser....
First things first... Guys, here are the 3 Rules of Engagement in commercial sex:

Rule #1: Fuck and Fuck Off

To put it simply - No emotions involved for this money-for-pussy transaction. When the whole deed is over, it is OVER. Next target!

Rule #2: If you RTF, remind yourself of Rule #1!

Rule #3: If you find yourself RTF-ing to the extend that it doesn't seems like a commercial bonk anymore...STOP the RTF immediately!

Very, very important. If you find your sessions with the WL becoming non-bonking sessions and replaced by non-sexual activities (eg. just hug and chat) you MUST absolutely STOP the RTF and change target!! Or else you will be in danger of crossing the KC line of NO RETURN!!
To be continued...
Hi bro, you're a sage!

But to KC a WL/FL/KTV gal, one must intentionally turn the RTFs into "non-commercial bonk" n engage her outside closed door. Your title is "How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her" n if one always obeys Rule #3, how could one KC the gal? Following all ur 3 Rules religiously will merely prevent one from getting KCed. Pls clarify. I'm eagerly awaiting ur insights n trade secrets, hahaha.

Thx a lot!

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Interesting read bro Harvest...reminds me of my own experience with a Malaysian WL...hope u dont mind me sharing....

It was a very satisfying sexperience for me...as i was impressed not only by her service..her attitude..but most importantly she has the looks of the type of girl i have always desired. In short..she was my dream girl...

I couldnt sleep that night...kept thinking about her and her reply...i decided to forget her and move on...and i stopped looking for her since then.

Now thinking back...i believed i had made the right move...as illustrated in your 3rd rule..if i failed...i shrudder to think how it might have lead to otherwise.
Hi bro,

I hv had similiar encounters in the past. You avoided falling into a KC trap, that's great.

But the most interesting question is whether u could hv KCed ur dream gal w/o being KCed urself. And I guess bro Harvest will share his wisdom, strategies n guidlines as to how to accomplish just that.

I'm most interested in this potentially very risky game...it's definitely not for the faint of heart...n I know I could be the one getting burnt, but then again, life is either a daring adventure or nothing, hahaha.

Good day!!
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Thanks to bros who have shown support for this thread. Now that I have laid down the golden Rules of Engagement, let's move on to the next step...

HOMEWORK

What? Avoiding KC also must do homework?? Of course! Don't you guys scan for FRs first before going for your targets?? As a beginner rules player, you need to psycho yourself up and tell your BIG HEAD to activate emotional FORCE FIELD before the commercial sex engagement. Why? Because when you are at the sex battle field, all the blood will be flowing to your SMALL HEAD leaving your HEART extremely vulnerable to viral KC attacks! It will be too late to put up any last minute defenses by then.

Also, before you can KC a WL effectively without being burnt, learning how to avoid being KC-ed first is absolutely fundamental! Here's how to do it step by step:

1. Find a quiet place (Eg in your own bedroom) and close you eyes. Take a few deep breaths to relax and steer your mind away from any distractions.

2. Visualize at the back of your mind your sexual encounter with your target: From the moment you enter the room right to the hardcore action and the release. Everything is just so perfect. Her looks/skills are up to your expectations. She aimed to please and she delivered the goods. You gave her a hell of a ride and she enjoyed the session as much as you did. She whispered her sweet nothings to you, affirmed that you are her BEST lover she's ever had and hoped to see you again soon....She gave you one last CFM look and kissed you passionately like she never want to let you go. You dressed up and finally left. At this step the focus is on HER... and what she is doing, not on YOU or how good you felt!! Very important!!

3. Now this step may be slightly more difficult but if you've watched enough voyeur porn it should be easy. Continue to picture in your mind that as you are leaving the place, the next customer in the queue entered her room. You decided to be a voyeur to take a peep. She performed the exact same ritual as she was with you just a while ago. Everything with them was so perfect... their facial expressions, the hardcore actions right to the release. And to your surprise she whispered the EXACT same sweet nothings into his ears too... she told him he's the BEST lover she's ever had and hopes to see him again soon. She gave him the EXACT same CFM look and kissed him passionately like she never wanted to let him go... He still dressed up and left. Remember: The focus is still on HER... how she react, what she is doing, the ritual she goes thru... not on the customer!!

How does it FEEL now? More down to earth? Maybe some of you might even start to feel a sense of JEALOUSY and BETRAYAL. That's completely normal. This is how you prepare your emotional FORCE FIELD effectively. Step #3 serves to sink the REALITY of a commercial sex deep into your BIG HEAD. You may ask me why this sequence and not the other way round to start with another customer first. Reason is very simple - We men always thrill for "first blood" experience, to get her when she is "fresh". It is an illusion to think that your target will always be fresh for you but hey, this is the way to trick your mind to have a great time nevertheless! I noticed that if I switched the sequence around, I end up not enjoying the bonk as much because my subconscious mind keeps reminding me that she is not fresh for me!!

4. Now continue to picture this customer leaving her room... only to have a 3rd customer walking in shortly to start all over again. This time, you smile to yourself... because you know the rules of the game while those silly Roberts do not! Picture them receiving SMSes from your target and already planning for a RTF the next day with gifts! The more irrational they behave, the better. Also visualize how your target is laughing her way to the bank with thanks to all these Roberts!! But she couldn't even get a hook on you no matter how hard she tried! Hurray!!

5. Take your time to go thru this whole mental sequence at least twice if time permits. The excitement may be killing you but try to keep cool. Remind yourself that you are one hell of a rules player... and a darn good one that is!! You've got your emotional FORCE FIELD activated and you are going to execute the engagement process masterfully now that you've done your homework. No sweat at all!

To be continued...
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