Batam Info Thread

[SEAJ]

3)
FREE-LOADERS
This is the most common occurrence and quite easy to avoid either by first outlining what all is expected in terms of sharing/cost/none of that I only drink soft drink nonsense OR by just collecting money BEFORE you venture forth.

Before I learned my lesson, I’ve had “Oh, can you please pay for me first as its easier to settle all later/I don’t have enough for my girl fee tonight/my friend and I will do so later/I need to change currency first” or just guys pretending to be so drunk/in such a hurry to leave with his gal and even one who actually pretended a phone call that was an emergency! Yeah, I’ve had my share – but in my (embarrassed) defense, I must stress that I have been mongering for quite a few years plus of course I do sometimes stupidly over-concentrate on just enjoying myself. Oops!

These parasites are sooooo irritating!

[SEAJ]

4)
UNDECLARED AGENTS
There are many of these guys in most forums pretending to just be another good guy monger, offering up information, comments, replying to questions either on the board or by PM (especially to those asking for recommendations! Note - All you’re doing is painting a huge target on yourself doing this!). They would then offer to meet up and party together – and get kick-backs from the various places. …. Huge kick-backs!

There really is not much wrong if an agent declares himself an agent and get, say 10% kick-backs – or a more appropriate term for travel agents, standard industry rebates. But you can be very sure that when an agent takes so much pain to conceal the fact that he is actually an agent, the kick-backs are going to be way-way more substantial than 10%! But even for declared agents, do watch out for all the tricks he will come up with to bump up the Bill – with the full complicity of the establishment and worse, possibly your fellow party-goers too.

** Empty beer bottles/cans brought in and charged for. Sometimes, even liquor bottles and mixers.

** Half full glasses being cleared and dumped into the sink.

** Over-priced snacks, toys, cigars, ladies drinks etc. suddenly appearing.

** Encourage Mommies/mei-mei’s friends/managers - who are nothing more than professional drinkers there to inflate the bill – to come into the room. And it’s weird how some guys really love having these suckers come in and supposedly “give him face” by toasting/drinking.

** Encourage you/your friends to start acting like BSD’s and waste liquor/throw money around/OVER-sit number of girls – remember, girls drink too and agents can also get rebates from the mommies for girls.

** Set up HEAVY drinking games – yes, a lot of fun, but ridiculous how much liquor the guy can manage to “play” down everybody’s throat, and worse when we, including the girls lose control.

** NOT ordering the special deals/freebies that are quite the norm at many places.

** Over-order liquor bottles, which he will store to use next visit to treat his own friends, who knows precisely what the agent does but is complicit to screw you, as they get to share his ill-gotten gains too.

** Bringing in supposedly “Real Liquor” but is of course just another fake bottle, and apologizing whilst moaning that the stupid place charges hefty corkage.

** Also watch out for friends who looooves being “Taikor” - all generous and “Tai fong” so that he gets treated as VIP then and on subsequent visits….. and of course you get to share the cost for him to be Taikor! (even without any agents around). LOL – tooooo many Zeroes wanting to be Heroes, especially when overseas.

[SEAJ]

5)
SCAMMERS
IMHO, there is especially a lot scammers preying on mongers, and they involve both petty sums as well as larger ones. I think most of us know how to avoid the petty scams but what really irks me are those involving larger amounts.

**Please be especially wary of them making use of a mutual friend’s repute to scam you and of course, be wary of them using YOU to scam your friend! I’ve had some pretty uncomfortable situations happen this way and once even actually pay! Luckily it was just small money and thus not worth it to impair a good friendship. But still…. Sheesh!

** Offers of great deals like cheap Iphones, antiques, ginseng, tea, jewelry etc. - if you’re lucky, you’ll get over-priced goods, if not, you’ll not even get anything and he disappears! LOL! And oh yeah – helping you get “great” rates on currency exchange – again if you’re lucky, you’ll just have a lousy rate, if not, you’ll end up with fake bills! Or how about him giving you fake foreign currency for your local ones as he hasn’t changed his yet?!

** Do NOT engage in any Drugs, illegal gambling etc – one time I’m pretty sure we got scammed when one of our new friends took out playing cards/we started gambling and got raided. And this was when there were no particular crack-downs on such things and we had seemed to be targeted – and had to pay quite a large sum of money to avoid being jailed.

** Overly generous fellow monger, spending quite large sums, even asking guys to “Hold on” to his money as he’s too drunk etc. and then sucker the now convinced victim into investing/co-investing/ whatever.

** Surprisingly, even just being a great mongering buddy seems to lull some into complacency, and of course again co-investing etc. Somehow, guys become instant bosom-buddies when mongering – and this is the MOST IMPORTANT THING TO REMEMBER ABOUT MONGERING SCAMS– keep your wits about when having a good time mongering!

As above, I’m sure I’ve only barely skimmed the surface of this topic and I would thus appreciate others’ further input. I’ve also copied and pasted Hurricane88’s list of do’s and don’ts when out mongering
http://sbf.directory/showpos...&postcount=239

SEAJ

[getlife]

Hi bro, I wanna join some one..pls PM me. if ok. Thanks. M 38

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

3)
FREE-LOADERS
This is the most common occurrence and quite easy to avoid either by first outlining what all is expected in terms of sharing/cost/none of that I only drink soft drink nonsense OR by just collecting money BEFORE you venture forth.

Before I learned my lesson, I’ve had “Oh, can you please pay for me first as its easier to settle all later/I don’t have enough for my girl fee tonight/my friend and I will do so later/I need to change currency first” or just guys pretending to be so drunk/in such a hurry to leave with his gal and even one who actually pretended a phone call that was an emergency! Yeah, I’ve had my share – but in my (embarrassed) defense, I must stress that I have been mongering for quite a few years plus of course I do sometimes stupidly over-concentrate on just enjoying myself. Oops!

These parasites are sooooo irritating!

I am very careful of the above...usually state very clear that you need to have money...change to local currency and you need small change to pay tips...so one trip to money changer...than helping them change to smaller denominations...collecting money upfront is the best method to avoid misunderstanding...so to avoid any embarrassment, I usually meet up for kopi to gauge the friend before chiong...

story...once in hcm..we brought gals back for overnight...due to some reason one of the friend's gal cannot stay...friend knock on my door...call my phone...after midnight I usually dun listen or open door...so the hotel phone rang...I answered..."my friend asked if I have smaller change...just when I am about to poke my gal..."...what a disappointment...

I will avoid friends who are not good companion...no longer share the travel dates...

[jimfairy]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

story...once in hcm..we brought gals back for overnight...due to some reason one of the friend's gal cannot stay...friend knock on my door...call my phone...after midnight I usually dun listen or open door...so the hotel phone rang...I answered..."my friend asked if I have smaller change...just when I am about to poke my gal..."...what a disappointment...

I will avoid friends who are not good companion...no longer share the travel dates...

Haha.. u forget abt a dumb dumb go knock ur door asking for condoms meh haha..

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Oysterpay

Hi bro ny.can u kindly share a bit more abt happy massage?is this the happy 8 massage which beside have another massage but it's link.read that one of them is a booking joint.but like u I'm more into massage with special.

Thanks

This happy massage 8 is basically 2 shops rolled into one. There is a massage joint on 2nd floor next door( specials), and the other side is a pick up joint. Mainly MILF if you go late.

The massage has specials, and you can ask the girl when you flip over after back massage, if she don't ask in the end. Prices start from 200K for FJ, 100K for HJ.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by jimfairy

Haha.. u forget abt a dumb dumb go knock ur door asking for condoms meh haha..

haha...no way I will open door or listen to phone call after midnight...I offer free condoms during day...can never seem to finish giving out...haha...

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I am very careful....

story...once in hcm..we brought gals back for overnight...due to some reason one of the friend's gal cannot stay...friend knock on my door...call my phone...after midnight I usually dun listen or open door...so the hotel phone rang...I answered..."my friend asked if I have smaller change...just when I am about to poke my gal..."...what a disappointment...

I will avoid friends who are not good companion...no longer share the travel dates...

LOL - yeah happens with all too frequent regularity!

Phone rings (nowadays I turn off my mobile when I turn in - learned my lesson!)
- at 7 AM and without even a hello, never mind good morning I hear this idiot literally screaming at me "TELL HER to write down train station in Chinese for the taxi driver!!!"

- at 4 AM - but at least quite politely - "can you tell her that she MUST blow me or I will not pay her?!"

- 2 AM - sorry bro, but I really don't know how to get back to the hotel as the gal just upped and walked off after supper.

- Then there was this guy who got convinced that his gal is too in love with him as she insisted on doing it raw....and I had to listen to him moan and groan about possible STD, his responsibilities to his own family, how he plans on "taking care of her" and all done through repeated phone calls and when we met! When he had only been with the gal twice....and of course both times over-paying her! Incredible this guy.... and incredible now that I think of it, that I actually tolerated this nonsense and even lent an understanding ear. The bigger idiot was I actually!!

Sooooo...... many plonkers out mongering! LOL

SEAJ

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Sooooo...... many plonkers out mongering! LOL

SEAJ

Ever had a time when my friends come knocking at the door as one member took too much pills. His heart is racing at 170 beats per hour. Flush down his throat 2 cans of fresk milk to flush out his system.

Many other times, a few gals they took had too much to drink and pass out. Had to host them in the room.

And many other funny reasons. THis is one reason to cheong alone.

[Oysterpay]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

This happy massage 8 is basically 2 shops rolled into one. There is a massage joint on 2nd floor next door( specials), and the other side is a pick up joint. Mainly MILF if you go late.

The massage has specials, and you can ask the girl when you flip over after back massage, if she don't ask in the end. Prices start from 200K for FJ, 100K for HJ.

Thank u very much for the kind info.so may I ask the ladies for booking(overnight) & for massage on 2nd floor is the same or they have seperate ladies to choose?

Lastly,whats the fee for the massage itself?(exclude the nego on special )

Thanks a lot.

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Ever had a time when my friends come knocking at the door as one member took too much pills. His heart is racing at 170 beats per hour. Flush down his throat 2 cans of fresk milk to flush out his system.

oops...no way for me to do drugs...I will stay far away from such guys...if any of my friend asked me where to get in hcm...I will tell them straight "no...I dun do drugs.." and that's it...no more contacts...

I sleep early and wakes up early...

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

oops...no way for me to do drugs...I will stay far away from such guys...if any of my friend asked me where to get in hcm...I will tell them straight "no...I dun do drugs.." and that's it...no more contacts..

I sleep early and wakes up early...

That was my earlier days. Stay away from them already. Now days cheong alone

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Oysterpay

Thank u very much for the kind info.so may I ask the ladies for booking(overnight) & for massage on 2nd floor is the same or they have seperate ladies to choose?

Lastly,whats the fee for the massage itself?(exclude the nego on special )

Thanks a lot.

The ladies are different. The group that provide massage is not for booking Maybe after working hours, I am not sure.

Massage fee is 50K onwards per hour

[doggienine99]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

This happy massage 8 is basically 2 shops rolled into one. There is a massage joint on 2nd floor next door( specials), and the other side is a pick up joint. Mainly MILF if you go late.

The massage has specials, and you can ask the girl when you flip over after back massage, if she don't ask in the end. Prices start from 200K for FJ, 100K for HJ.

G ' Day Bro newyorker88

Really the massage gal charge only RP 200k for FJ. I being to many Batam massage places n usually asking price is 300-350K. Not to mention those massage gals fr Hotel (Formosa/Trinity) asking exorbitant rates (500K -700k). How is the quality of gals from Massage 8?. Good value for money leh.