Batam Info Thread

[pay99]

If you notice,in most summaries i will declare my spendings to the public,but not so much on the 17th trip. It is becos its a "friend to friend trip". So the spending structure and mentality is entirely different. Notice also i didnt spell out any bro's nick initial from this thread or from other forums? I am a follower in the last trip from after day 2 onward, so it naturally cannot be counted in as normal spending.

I am sorry i cannot answer your question directly cos it will become irrelevant weighing from the situation as mentioned above. But under normal circumstances and base on my experience,i spend around S$200 per night staying in Batam which excludes ferry and w/o shopping. I do bring spare cash for the "in case of emergency" reason. After subsidised by my company claim on hotel room/s,some "entertainment" plus "earning back" my ferry tickets from my shopping at Batam Lucky Plaza ,my average rough gauge spending per night in Batam is about S$125 for one night. Lesser than S$100 if i dont stay in Formosa Hotel.

Girl : 600k/night (or 800k/night)
Tips : 150k/night (sometime 100k/night)
Taxi : 80k/night
Food : 100k for girl to eat
Toiletries : 50k
Total : 980k/night = S$100 base on 9800/SGD exchange rate
(exchange rate was between 9850/SGD to 9860/SGD during my 17th trip)

Its just a close rough guide of my normal spending in Batam,hehehe...see, i am afterall a stingy man who dont really like to pay more when i can pay less. And i doubled my spending on my 17th trip....*sob* (pains my heart deeply...lol)[/QUOTE]

bro i ask because i read from some where you over spent for this trip.that y i ask.i did not ask your other trip is because you state what you spent

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Before i continue blabbling with the other posts of this thread....
Most importantly,may you have a good time in Batam!!
Enjoy!

Too kind, really. I feel flattered.
So I will make you feel even hotter. Joints are full now and customers are few. Girls complain because no work. Hint: all joints are officially CLOSED, but it is possible to find the way.

For me, the best period to visit Batam is Ramadhan. Third year I try (2012-13-15) and I always enjoyed at max speed.
It is just important to understand that things are different and adjust accordingly.

Yesterday: recce of 5 joints of the 11 you listed. Collection of interesting names on business cards.
Today: the couple of girls who entertained me during my last afternoon in March (I checkout at 6pm) are still working in the same place. Once I write them a msg, they start flooding me with "come booking me".
Promptly executed. I go there around 2pm. I wave at papi. I am escorted to the back door. I say hi to my two smiling girls. I bargain a discount with papi (2.1M instead of 2.2M) and byebye.

Well, it is so good to hold two lovely young bodies close to me. Their smile is amazing. It makes me feel reborn. A dream comes true. I feel in Paradise with them in my arms. Three people holding tight. Love is great!

They look almost SYT, but they are not. One is almost 30 and 2 kids, the other 22 and 1 kid, but who cares about their biography? Two lovely girls, GFE at best, even if they are professional workers and have months of past bookings.
We all know that we should not book again because the second experience usually does not match the first, but if you treat girls as queens the first time, including a very good tip, they will treat you as a King the second time. Guaranteed.
To be honest, they sadly told me how often they provide good service to unkind customers, just because they take their job seriously, to receive back only a little tip and no care at all.

They know I respect them, so for me it is not just bonking with them. They take their job seriously. Even play between them modestly, although not lesbian at all. Just because they want me happy.
I love them. Why Indonesian girls can be so special? Not in many countries you can experience this.
Interestingly, they say nobody books two girls at once. I am the only one who did it with them. Yes I am special.

After 3 hours in my room, we go for eating to Nagoya Hill, then they kindly probe me if I really want them all night. Of course NOT! I would be delighted, but while I am in bed with them, what happens outside?? At NoName?? At Newton?? WHAT MORE ADVENTURES MIGHT BE WAITING ME??

So I release them with the usual good tip. Yes, an overall expensive afternoon, but where else I can experience this? I should not miss Paradise when I find the door.
Would you believe one almost cried when we said bye? The other was staring at her...

[Yoshirux]

Originally Posted by Black Page

Too kind, really. I feel flattered.
So I will make you feel even hotter. Joints are full now and customers are few. Girls complain because no work. Hint: all joints are officially CLOSED, but it is possible to find the way.

For me, the best period to visit Batam is Ramadhan. Third year I try (2012-13-15) and I always enjoyed at max speed.
It is just important to understand that things are different and adjust accordingly.

Yesterday: recce of 5 joints of the 11 you listed. Collection of interesting names on business cards.
Today: the couple of girls who entertained me during my last afternoon in March (I checkout at 6pm) are still working in the same place. Once I write them a msg, they start flooding me with "come booking me".
Promptly executed. I go there around 2pm. I wave at papi. I am escorted to the back door. I say hi to my two smiling girls. I bargain a discount with papi (2.1M instead of 2.2M) and byebye.

Well, it is so good to hold two lovely young bodies close to me. Their smile is amazing. It makes me feel reborn. A dream comes true. I feel in Paradise with them in my arms. Three people holding tight. Love is great!

They look almost SYT, but they are not. One is almost 30 and 2 kids, the other 22 and 1 kid, but who cares about their biography? Two lovely girls, GFE at best, even if they are professional workers and have months of past bookings.
We all know that we should not book again because the second experience usually does not match the first, but if you treat girls as queens the first time, including a very good tip, they will treat you as a King the second time. Guaranteed.
To be honest, they sadly told me how often they provide good service to unkind customers, just because they take their job seriously, to receive back only a little tip and no care at all.

They know I respect them, so for me it is not just bonking with them. They take their job seriously. Even play between them modestly, although not lesbian at all. Just because they want me happy.
I love them. Why Indonesian girls can be so special? Not in many countries you can experience this.
Interestingly, they say nobody books two girls at once. I am the only one who did it with them. Yes I am special.

After 3 hours in my room, we go for eating to Nagoya Hill, then they kindly probe me if I really want them all night. Of course NOT! I would be delighted, but while I am in bed with them, what happens outside?? At NoName?? At Newton?? WHAT MORE ADVENTURES MIGHT BE WAITING ME??

So I release them with the usual good tip. Yes, an overall expensive afternoon, but where else I can experience this? I should not miss Paradise when I find the door.
Would you believe one almost cried when we said bye? The other was staring at her...

So even its Ramadan period now , the joints are filled with choices ?
HAHA , thats great. Looking forward to my upcoming trip next week.

[Bigbird00]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Meantime,as i type this post i am also enjoying the video from bro SBY's previous video post.

Oh, at the same time ,viewing the TOPLESS photos from the above duo group on the video,hehehe...if anyone dont like to see them naked please skip and dont click on the spolier button below,hehehe...i like it tho :

I love big boobies!!!

Enjoy!

Hi Bro Nono & Pak SBY,

Wow!! Those caught my attention. Boy i just love seeing those lovely jugs bounce.... Are they in Batam? Sorry my smaller "head" is in control now.

Originally Posted by Black Page

I totally agree. Few people behaving without respect spoil reputation and make life harder to everybody. We need to know where we go and respect the sensitivity of men and also girls.
Said this, I always had lots of fun in Batam also on Ramadhan.
Today, I made a list of sexy SYTs who I may pick or not from joints in the next days. For tonight, I try the harder way: I take two girls met in a food court to disco.
Probability to have success (yes, you know what I mean): I don't know, maybe little.
Probability to have fun: very high.
Bye. I go out.

Its gets more exciting when you go "fishing in the wild" for your "Supper" yah? I love the trill of picking up these "candies" from Departmental Stores, Malls, food court..... and see where it goes. I saw some Cigarette promoters in a food court and they are simply yummy. Unfortunately, I didn't have my local mobile to follow up then. BTW do u speak Bahasa?

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Black Page

UPDATE: MORNING AFTER
The two are real SYT 19yo.
Lots of fun at Newton (at 5am still open).
Outcome: 50% success. I mean they come to sleep to my room, without me mentioning anything. I was quite surprised, actually, to see both them following me when I entered my hotel.
.

What they want is have some fun. Also, at 5 am, so tired, where else can they go? Book a room? cost money also. might as well follow u to have fun and sleep for a while?

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by Bigbird00

Its gets more exciting when you go "fishing in the wild" for your "Supper" yah? I love the trill of picking up these "candies" from Departmental Stores, Malls, food court..... and see where it goes. I saw some Cigarette promoters in a food court and they are simply yummy. Unfortunately, I didn't have my local mobile to follow up then. BTW do u speak Bahasa?

Those Chinese selling mobile? Can forget about them, unless u are really loaded and they are in the mood.

Beer promoters? Yes, if you are good friends with them after a few times of big spending on beers on them. They do earn commission from sales.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by lextaxy

...the aromas, buzz n noise where people(muslim and non-muslim)come for their supply of break-fast kues, drinks and ready to eats add a different dimension to the local scene and it happens only on the holy fasting month of Ramadan

This is interesting. I actually plan to buy some of their hari raya biscuits in those small plastic container back to Sillypore in my next Batam trip. Hopefully they will still have stock then.

Originally Posted by newyorker88

That goes the same for me too.. No more than 250 for MILF. SYT? I don't like them, too money faced. Go massage shops 70K to 100K for 1.5 hour massage n followed by a FJ. all in about 300K.

Yea,that should about the amount for me too,unless i stepped into a spa or call for massage into my Hotel room.

Originally Posted by newyorker88

That's my rate!

Yes,100k/HJ and 200k/FJ was 1st mentioned by you in this thread quite a couple of years ago in this thread and in other Batam related thread too. There were even numerous bros asking how you get it and where you get it etc.When i 1st read it and went to Batam last year,i couldnt get "your rate" either and was thinking are you lying? Maybe is it becos i am a tourist? i dont speak Bahasa Indo? But i just keep trying and trying becos i also read about the same rate in some of other Indo Batam local forums,hehehe...its been proven true and today your RATE is so much engraved into my mind i can have myself blind-folded,i will know WHERE and HOW to get "your rate". And even at Spa or Hotel Massage ininsisted on those RATES,hehehe....

What i learned on Batam massage places so far :

1. 200k/fj can be attainable at Formosa Kings too but it would be rare, requiring much effort and the right timing.

2. Surprisingly,200k/fj is MORE easily available than 100k/hj....lol. I actually took lesser effort to bargain for 200k FJ than i did for 100k HJ at most time...lol.

3. Out of 10 massage shops (on certain few major areas),200k/fj are easily available on at least 7 of it base on my experience. Of course if its SSYT it may be 50k more or if i meet a greedy yet super horny MILF,hehehe...(i dont submit easily)

4. 150k/fj (mostly milf) is also possible if one is a regular or knows the rope to break the ice with a masseur.

5. Strangely,sometime a HJ in Batam can end up costing more than a FJ which i see in some FRs send to me and in this thread...lol.

6. When one negotiate for a hj ,at most time full stripping,bbbj,fingering,nipple sucking,frenching is not inclusive. But top roaming w/o stripping often seems included. Almost every value-added service require negotiation. Again,there are tactics to by-pass all these.

7. In all Batam massage shop ,bargaining is a MUST for any special service to avoid getting RIPPED OFF. And i am talking about getting chop carrot. I learned that when one of my friend give it a "dont-bargain-try" (its much more expensive compare to Malaysia). So i deduce if i dont bargain in Batam at all,i am already a carrot-head to begin with,hehehe...

8. More than 80% of the masseur provide certain level of quality massage,even SYTs can massage pretty well too,hehehe...piano massage are rare in Batam,hehehe...

9. I personally feel tipping extra 20k to 30k on top of everything else after the END OF SESSION for an above average service makes them feel recognized for their effort and brings out a sincere smile from them.

10. Most massage places only have "basic conditioned room" even when they say it is VIP,unless one takes those spa kind of massage place or hotel massage. VIP room = got bath tub. All massage places i visited so far changes their massage/bathing towel,bed sheets and pillow cases after every session even if it may not look clean..10/10 of them i observed did.

I remember i said last year...i venture to booking joint 1st...then followed by massage places. But i havent complete bro Newyorker's trail on his signature and i still have long way to go as there are many other shops i havent tried. Last trip,i officially stepped in Alishan KTV,hehehe...not my 1st KTV in Batam,but its the 1st i shared in my summary. I am taking my time,baby step a time...i will reach my final destination,hehehe....

Add-on :

11. Some massage shop girls (in fact it is most of them to me) can be book for overnight too but need to negotiate the price and wait for the massage girl to finish work which usually is after 1030pm indo time. Subject to chemistry.

[newyorker88]

Originally Posted by nono1973

1. 200k/fj can be attainable at Formosa Kings too but it would be rare, requiring much effort and the right timing.

2. Surprisingly,200k/fj is MORE easily available than 100k/hj....lol. I actually took lesser effort to bargain for 200k FJ than i did for 100k HJ at most time...lol.

All u need to do is to nego. MILF are usually 200K for FJ max. Most of them are willing becos THEY HAVE 1 OR 2 CUSTOMERS A DAY, usually at night. That's where I go for the kill. If no accept customers, they lugi. So a customer who offer 200k is better than none.

HOTEL SPAS ARE USUALLY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. They think they are higher class. THEY ALSO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS AND CAN BE CHOOSY.



Therefore, in Formosa or Indo rasa, or higher end hotels with lots of customers, they can ask for high price n reject to maintain their prices.

Get the picture where to find cheaper ones? Also the stretch along UTAMA hotel, Chinatown massage, KEYZA, etc, competition is high, u get what I mean...

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

All u need to do is to nego. MILF are usually 200K for FJ max. Most of them are willing becos THEY HAVE 1 OR 2 CUSTOMERS A DAY, usually at night. That's where I go for the kill. If no accept customers, they lugi. So a customer who offer 200k is better than none.

Usually i dont make the 1st offer,the girls at most time did (other than Pas Massage who didnt offer me,the rest did...lol). And if they dont offer,i just take it as they dont have special service to provide me and i am perfectly fine with that. This shop dont have,other shops will have. Other shops if still dont have then i still have booking joint girl/s in my room,hehehe...

You didnt really emphasis those point i quoted in bold in most of your postings from the past,bro. Thats what i have been searching and trying to learn on those massage shops. Its the part where you say they (the masseurs) mainly have 1 or 2 customers per day/night.It is suppose to be one of the main KEY! And i am trying to catch those fishes when and where they are at their hungriest,hehehe...the one who holds the purse-string wins.

Just like booking joint girls,customers pay 1.2 -1.5 million rupiah for an overnight booking SYT girl in any booking joint,but how much of the 1.2 - 1.5 million rupiah goes to the girl? Once i knew that (which i already did) and with some other KEY factors,i will then know the REAL cost of booking a girl and how to fish them out using the least bait. And if i can bypass all the other miscellaneous costing,i can get an overnight girl at close to their REAL cost plus a bit of extras.

Of course,this would also mean those who pays 800k or more for FL via wechat,watsapp,BBM or from whatever app are being ripped off in my perspective,hehehe...and i am not talking about having the need to underpay any of the girls. The girls will earn more but would cost me less plus extra extra enjoyment. Win-win.

I have learned and will continue to learn more.

Originally Posted by newyorker88

HOTEL SPAS ARE USUALLY ASKING FOR MORE MONEY. They think they are higher class. THEY ALSO HAVE MORE CUSTOMERS AND CAN BE CHOOSY.

Therefore, in Formosa or Indo rasa, or higher end hotels with lots of customers, they can ask for high price n reject to maintain their prices.

Yes,i caught this part of your advise in a few of your posts dated a few years ago. Many chose to ignore,i didnt...hehehe...tho at this higher tourist spot, they can ask for sky high prices,but when i can spot a weakness,i also go for that kill too....lol. There is always a weakness but some luck needs to come into play. The least i know,the bros who joined me in my group trips (and those who read) are intelligent enough not to pay the exorbitant price in Indo term for special service,hehehe....at least not any much higher than those shops from Utama area.

While enjoyment is an important factor in any oversea trips ,i think learning is just equally important too. The least i could do is advise against others who joined me not to make the same mistakes i did (or what others did),hehehe...

Originally Posted by newyorker88

Get the picture where to find cheaper ones? Also the stretch along UTAMA hotel, Chinatown massage, KEYZA, etc, competition is high, u get what I mean...

I get the picture,bro. And i have tried and tested some of them. What i am looking now are the "weakness",the right time and the right chemistry. Give you one example,during CNY period,i had the hardest time trying to get a FJ for 250k even for MILF. That is where timing is not right with demand overtaking supply,hehehe...the experienced would know how to turn the Ramadan disadvantage to their favor.

Right timing,right chemistry and right place are whats needed. And right places are all stated on the below cheonging list,hehehe.... (which originated from you) :

http://sbf.directory/showpost.ph...ostcount=30703

In my perspective,i can name all the right places in Batam where there are cheap and good massage,but if one dont bargain down the quoted prices to a certain desirable rate,it will be just good massage and not cheap massage...lol.

Thats why i see it that most part of the future of Batam lies at the hands of the newbies today. From another angle of view,whether the girls eat rice or drink porridge on that particular day depends on newbie's knowledge on the scene. Its just like whether newbies want to allow the girls eat rice or porridge depends on how much he wish to READ and understand the scene.

There is a difference between already knowing how much to pay and yet still be happy and willing to pay more OVER without knowing how much to pay and yet be paying more.

Again,they are my personal perspective.

[fishingman]

Originally Posted by tiuminator

For me i treat all WLs the same be it at 70K or 700K when hygiene in question. Always sarong on.

weather hygiene got question or hygiene no question,uncle also say must wear helmet when enter any wl pussy. 70k best is i skip bcs frenching also maybe bj also i scare,700k i no skip but wearing helmet is a must.

Originally Posted by newyorker88

That's my rate!

Yr rate ???

Originally Posted by nono1973

The Indonesian Government has decreed 19 official national public holidays in 2015. This total is comprised of 15 officials holidays and 4 “shared holidays” designated by the government to create long weekends and encourage domestic tourism.

National Holidays in 2015

• Tuesday, June 2, 2015 - Buddhist Holy Day of Waisak 2559
• Thursday, July 16, 2015 – Shared Public Holiday
• Friday-Saturday, July 17-18, 2015 - Lebaran – Hari Raya Idul Fitri 1436 Hijriah
• Monday, July 20, 2015– Shared Public Holiday
• Tuesday, July 21, 2015 – Shared Public Holiday

U very clever.I tink i knw wat u tinking.

Originally Posted by lurpsexx

Bros, any recommended joints that send their girls to my hotel room for short time? (1shot).. And anyone knows the rate for out call short time? Thanks bros..

usurely 300k to 600k 1 shot depants on young girl or old girl if u call to room kind a bit more ex bcs of the transport. sometime can bargain if yr room not too far. Better u go see the girl b4 agree to paying b4 deliver to yr rm.

Originally Posted by nono1973

I have NEVER in my life been looking forward to Hari Raya so much...lol. Meantime,as i type this post i am also enjoying the video from bro SBY's previous video post.

Oh, at the same time ,viewing the TOPLESS photos from the above duo group on the video,hehehe...if anyone dont like to see them naked please skip and dont click on the spolier button below,hehehe...i like it tho :

( Click to show/hide )

I wonder if the last 2 photos belong to the other girl in the duo when she was younger(i dont understand Bahasa Indo,forgive me if i post wrongly).

I love big boobies!!!

Enjoy!

Wowowow! the 2 singers is kind of cewek is yr vege right? hahaha...

may u have better trip next mth.

Uncle only like the topless 4 photos. Nude cewek always more beautiful cewek than no nude cewek.

[marineboy99]

This 2 cewek make my day and make me hard love it

[Radimus]

Originally Posted by marineboy99

This 2 cewek make my day and make me hard love it

lol,the 2 pairs of big neh neh makes my day too!!

sm more got topless version.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by nescafeGold

.. unless u mean for 'clean' massage, then proceed to ktm resort which is 5 minute drive up to hill and down..

That would be Spa Villa inside KTM resort. I think by googling Spa Villa Batam,one would be able to know the location of the massage place which is near to Sekupang.

Originally Posted by Black Page

I use another approach: I go and see.
I am just back from a tour in 5 joints among those listed by Nono (that is virtually ALL available in the area).

Yes,this part i need to agree with you. Regardless of what kind of recommendation anyone may give,the best is to see it for yourself physically. Step into Batam,approach whatever joints that look seemingly interesting since they are all within 5 to 10 min taxi/motor ride away. And there ,we will have the result of whats good or what isnt in the "looks" department.

Joints have many girls that are contracted with their bosses between 3 to 6 months,so the swap rates are pretty high within a short period of time. I can say today that Gold Bird aka Sedona is super duper good,but 2mrow all their good girls can simply jump boat to other joints or even goes freelance.Most OKTs will never share where their previous girls have gone. Thats one reason why Batam is unpredictable. Most friends i brought to Batam in my opinion had on hand a few very good girls of their own already (their meat could be my poison),and when they visit Batam the next round,they will simply call and get them. And as for me,i dont keep any Indonesia phone numbers that starts with +62 on my phone unless they are non-Indonesian.

I erase all contacts of girl/s and taxi drivers from Batam in my phone when i reach Sillypore.

Originally Posted by Black Page

Nono, you did something really remarkable with your list. Your list is the best help, for both newbies and experts. KUDOS

You are flattering me now. The list can be read very differently by both the "experts" and "newbies" on a different time during a different Indonesia season.

Hope you didnt forget to visit the Morena Pub (not those banned joint) and the one below,hehehe... :

http://sbf.directory/showpos...ostcount=30694

Enjoy yourself!

Originally Posted by Black Page

As I wrote before, there are many beautiful girls! too many actually. Hard to choose.

Example,if there are 1000 over girls to choose from before/after Ramadan.During Ramadan period,there may only likely be around 20% of the girls left. 20% of the girls are still a lot for one man's appetite especially at a season where lesser of the male human species roam the island.

Watch out for the 1st 3 ,mid 3 and last 3 tho,hehehe...

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by nono1973

I erase all contacts of girl/s and taxi drivers from Batam in my phone when i reach Sillypore.

Hope you didnt forget to visit the Morena Pub (not those banned joint) and the one below,hehehe... :

http://sbf.directory/showpos...ostcount=30694

Example,if there are 1000 over girls to choose from before/after Ramadan.During Ramadan period,there may only likely be around 20% of the girls left. 20% of the girls are still a lot for one man's appetite especially at a season where lesser of the male human species roam the island.

1) I keep ALL numbers of interesting persons on my SIM Sympati card. Useful for the next time. Most important girls go also on my regular phone, to be reached by WhatsApp (this privilege is for very few persons) during my sad days in my country.

2) Morena Pub. Yes I visited and I will not be back. Sorry for the sympathic owner.

3) Sphinx. I did not have time. Newton and Pacific are already a lot to see and do.

4) Why only 20% of girls left?? They mostly leave for the end of Ramadhan, not before. I say that I saw more and more beautiful girls now in those 5 joints this week, than on my previous visits in March and November, far from Ramadhan. I insist, I always enjoyed Batam more on Ramadhan than in other months. Till today, I did not have a single day without bonking. Two days ago I passed all records: 1 SYT met in foodcourt bonked in the morning (with the other sleeping), 1+1 from joint bonked in the afternoon (adorable girls!), 1 young little one* from Newton bonked in the night at 3am or 4am . Where else could I do that?
* (She looked 13yo but she was 23, really. Pretty one. No money asked before. Only after "Give me what you think it's right". She even warned me to be careful with girls in Newton who steal things from room. And apologized for being dark skin LOL. I love dark skin.)

[tiuminator]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Anyway,July is coming in a few days time,shall update using a new post during then for everyone's reference. When there is a demand,there will be supply. I sincerely hope to see better future for overnight booking joint.

By the way,if there are any new overnight booking joint merging,please let me know.

Cheers!

Btw, confirm New Berlian gone for good? Or are they renaming their joint? Mr Goh such a nice guy...