Batam Info Thread

[RonRon7777777]

Originally Posted by nono1973

I stayed in KTM resort (sekupang) once and to go alone out of the resort,i was quoted 100k and going anywhere to Nagoya from there cost 100k...lol. Lucky there is free shuttle service from the resort itself to Nagoya area.

I was quoted more than that when I stayed at Harris Waterfront after I missed the free shuttle service.

Just recently during my stay at Amaris Nagoya, took a taxi to BCS at 20k but on the way back, the mafia like row of taxis in front of BCS demanded 40k!!! with the chief complaining that I was stingy.

When taking the taxi to Harbour Bay from Nagoya, taxi driver demanded another 20k for entrance/car park charges on top of the agreed price at $40k. Gave me a very black face when I refused.

Thank you very much for all the useful tips at the forum here

[micmac888]

Originally Posted by Seth El Nino

Your last gal is the most sticky i hav ever seen haha she can practically juz sit on your lap during dinner hahaha

I usually refrain from commenting but I gotta say - Shook my head in disbelief when I saw the way she behaved towards him during the period I was with yous. Can't keep her hands off him and continually initiated to whisper sweet nothings at him.... (spoon)fed him TOO. Really KCed her gao-gao....

my partner even said - he had a glow about him...(could be, that day - his celestial stars aligned with the moon and earth axis bringing forth unearthly powers)

(still shaking my head as I type LOL)

PS : Pls pardon this non-useful post.

[miumiu6464]

Please believe me that I'm embarrassed by how she stuck to me as well. Usually, I limit my contact with my girl to just holding her hands when in public. I thought I already experienced the best when it comes to stickiness who my my cheong kakis used to call superglue. This latest girl is like x 10 stickiness.

@Nono, not same kampung, but same joint.

[ciwilover]

hi guys, sorry for my silly question.

i notice the most reliable joint is golden bird, correct me if i am wrong.
but is there other joints thats reliable as well? in terms of my cewek won't went missing halfway thru with toopiak (stupid + piak) reason.

cam xia ha mi da... thank u very much!

[Naka_Timo]

Originally Posted by Soi6

Dear all,
I making my way to Batam 2nd week of Sept. Normally I stay in Harbourbay..either M1 or Nine Days.
This trip I would prefer to be nearby Nagoya Hill.
So I have a question..apart from Formosa and Swiss Inn and Goodway, is there any other newer hotel in that area? I have seen website for Nagoya Hill Hotel but it seems to be a tad expensive and more catered for families and group tours.
Godes seem reasonable. My budget would be abt 400 k a nite.
Can anybody give some inputs and hopefully recommendations?

Thank you

Ace hotel quite new, walking distance from fomosa.
Inside nagoya shopping mall, sakura hotel.
Amaris hotel so inside the mall.
Godes hotel near nagoya.
Newly renovated not long ago, The Hills behind nagoya

[miumiu6464]

Originally Posted by ciwilover

hi guys, sorry for my silly question.

i notice the most reliable joint is golden bird, correct me if i am wrong.
but is there other joints thats reliable as well? in terms of my cewek won't went missing halfway thru with toopiak (stupid + piak) reason.

cam xia ha mi da... thank u very much!

I've only book from this joint once, but so far, from those that I knew who have booked from them, girls attitude not bad and does not run. The price on the higher side though. Joint is Bunga Massage. Not say that they're the most reliable joint though as my experience with them is limited. On the single occasion that I gave them my business, the mami and some of the girls there specifically reminded her the booking is for till 2nd day morning.

Kg co chi..

[ciwilover]

thabks bro cam on iu iu

Originally Posted by miumiu6464

I've only book from this joint once, but so far, from those that I knew who have booked from them, girls attitude not bad and does not run. The price on the higher side though. Joint is Bunga Massage. Not say that they're the most reliable joint though as my experience with them is limited. On the single occasion that I gave them my business, the mami and some of the girls there specifically reminded her the booking is for till 2nd day morning.

Kg co chi..

[localbest]

Originally Posted by newyorker88

In house also got happy ending lah.

Some shophouse massage centres (those not in hotel ones) don't do outcall but only do incall means you can only enjoy the massage at their premises.

Went to taiqi massage at Goodway hotel the previous time. The massage place are very clean and nice with Jacuzzi bath tub for mandi susu if you take the more higher end package. However the massage cewek said there is no extra service there, so I presume the extra service will only be available if it is done in your hotel room.

Goodway Taiqi massage room, Spa secret near The Hills or even Formosa Kings massage VIP room are all very clean, nicely renovated and with proper attached toilets.

In comparison, on the other hand, most of the 30 plus massage centres located at those 3 storey shop house near DC mall/ utama hotel like Chinatown, ala mayang, princess, asia tropical, best and better, hello kitty, etc looked damn rundown. I would like to comment on the disadvantage of all these joints

First - there is no WC and no basin for wash hand

Second - no proper bathroom just a bathtub

Third - mattress look damn dirty

Fourth - vip room located at highest floor third floor inconvenient

Fifth - majority of cewek quality is low

Sixth - The actual cewek differ very much from the photo album. Remember I chose one massage cewek from Chinatown. To my shocking surprise, came one fat girl even though she look 50% like photo.

Seventh - Some even ask for sex job before the massage begins machiam like very hard-up for money. Some will ask "abang mau kongkek tak" ? Some who knows bit of hokkien will ask "koko ai sio pu mai" ?

Here I learn something that I wish to share with brothers. When you go to a particular massage shop in DC mall or hotel utama areas, you will be given a photo album to choose a cewek:

If the photo only show the face of the cewek but do not show the body shape means that the cewek 90% chance is either plump or fat, I kenna twice already.

If the photo shows the side view or far away view of the cewek, it means that the cewek is below average look. (don't make it too clear for customer to see)

If the photo shows a heavy make-up face, the cewek is likely to be very different from the photo and could be ugly in looks.

The experience photographer engaged by these joints will know how to take picture of the big, fat, old or ugly girl and make them look nice in the album.

Therefore do not trust the album 100% for those joints at the DC mall areas.

However. Formosa king's massage and abi massage girls look more like in the photo album. 80% look alike

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Recently came back from my first solo trip.. have to say i made quite a few mistakes..

Finally,your turn for me to reply you,hehehe...(i reply non-urgent post in sequence to keep myself from replying out of impulse) i was looking forward to your FR becos i knew you are a sensible person and whatever you took from this thread,you give back so that those who read them can benefit from it. Well,at the least i am one of them benefited from it today.

Back to your FR.1st and foremost,thank you for sharing. Mind if i ask you a small question 1st? Who in this thread do not make mistakes when they travel to Batam for the 1st time (or new)? I have read this entire thread about 4 to 5 times and sad to say,i found yet to find one. So there is no need to brood over your mistakes. You knew what went wrong and given another time in Batam,will you still go the same direction again like in your current trip? I highly doubt so,hehehe...

A really bad scenario would be those who didnt know its a mistake and yet continue to make them over and over again or worse still,those who knew and still continue to make them due to a big PRIDE (and ego) and then come back telling everyone he had a good time (which in real fact he didnt).

You knew and recognized your mistake/s from the beginning of your post. So i am sure your next trip,which i dare lay my head down to bet with anyone,will definitely be better than this one.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Tried to bargain for a 40k ride from Harbour bay to Da vienne Hotel but all the drivers insisted on a 60k price, finally settled for 50k, en route to the hotel the driver offered to bring me around looking for girls, plus bring me to massage and makan for 250k, agreed price at 200k.

This part would require some techniques to explain in case you think you read them wrong and think you are doing it correct or not right (there is no right and wrong,bro). I will just put myself in your position to narrate the situation from my newbie perspective. If i am you (narrating myself as a newbie),i will not grab a full day taxi from the harbour itself. 2nd,i will definitely not do so if i fail to secure a GOOD BARGAIN from the very beginning (unable to have a 30k taxi fare,yes..not 40k or even 50k). 3rd,if i am new and its my 1st travel to Batam,i will choose ONLY Formosa Hotel as advise by most of the senior batam travellers in this thread.

My Batam beginner's travelling guide was written when i was very very super new to Batam,hence i am actually standing in a close enough newbie mindset when writing them.In other word,in order to understand newbie,i need to be a newbie 1st and have that mindset,eg lacking confidence,mixed up with what other says online,unsure about everything etc etc. I did make some alteration due to the change of Ferry name etc recently tho,but they stay largely the same. And today,i will NEVER be able to rewrite them again becos i am no longer,a newbie in Batam.

1. I book Formosa on a weekday from online,i reach Harbour Bay. I get a taxi,try to bargain to 30k but the driver die die wants 50k (or maybe 60k). I go to another driver,tried again still fail. So i dont really have a choice but to take the taxi at 50k/60k to Formosa Hotel. No,i dont need to ask the current taxi driver who already "chop" me once when i took his service from Harbour Bay to Formosa Hotel for a full day taxi usage and especially not from one that is so hard up becos i know if i have further transaction with this "guy",every other things thereafter will never come cheap.

2. I reach early in Formosa,its on weekday...i wont know if i am able to check in when i reach early,but during the room booking online,i would likely have read that checking in time should normally be 2pm indo time (3pm for Sillypore time and if hotel has enough rooms,they actually allow guests to check in as early as 12pm or at times much earlier) I stay around,walk around,maybe talk to everyone around me since 100% of Formosa Hotel staffs speaks English,some even speaks Chinese. If there is a nono1973 during my time who wrote a Batam travelling guide,i will likely be talking to the Bell Boy after following his postings,hehehe...or if i really need help,i will PM nono1973 via hotel wifi.Anyway,just hang around until close to check in time.

3. Checked in time likely to be 1pm at worst baseon current experience. Check the room,lie around,play with the taps,lights and TVs. More importantly,hotel's wifi...well,since its free,so why not just play with it. Come to SBF,log in and ask in the Batam Info thread for the next possible step to do.

"Hi all,i followed bro Nono1973's guide and reach Formosa and just checked in 115pm indo time,can anyone help me with the next step? Get a taxi to joint or go eat 1st? Thank you."

Alternatively,you may have notice just outside the hotel,there are MANY TAXIS (which is at the hotels's disposal). I am a newbie,its my 1st trip,i have no confidence to travel alone,i need a taxi guide for whole day. Cool,since i am newbie,i am 1st timer,i approach the receptionist (or if i read Nono1973's guide,i approach the Bellboy). Booking a taxi from reception will cost more,say 500k/day? (i am 1st timer ma,next time once i get the taxi driver's HP number,i wont have to pay so much liao) Getting the bell boy to help you will bypass the hotel commission and pay lesser which i also dont know how much,but a small tip to bell boy will go a long way if i plan to return to stay.

Yet another alternative,ask the receptionist to dial me a Blue Bird Taxi stated in Nono1973's cheong List. There we go,i will get a cheap taxi,this is definitely guaranteed to be one of the cheapest option (or fairest) available since they are running by meter. Get the taxi driver to bring me to get an indo sim card for sms,communicate with the driver and GET his number.

4. Before i start travelling on the taxi,most likely i would already know where i wish to go. I usually have my itinerary ready. For a beginner,i wont be greedy,i want to go to the 5 major joints (Gold Bird,Bunga,New Berry,Permata and Happy 8) with the most number of girls in Batam to choose girl,i want to have lunch,i also want dinner. Maybe even shopping or movie at night until next morning send me back to Harbour to head to Sillypore.

5. Massage is at the 4th floor of Formosa hotel if not enough confident,KTV at the same floor. Provision also at the hotel downstairs too. More massage shops just opposite the Hotel,food court Indo rasa directly behind Relax Massage. Even Money changer is opposite the Hotel.

6. Shopping wise,just read the Batam travelling guide again to locate Nagoya Hill Mall from Formosa Hotel. This mall is big enough to kill at least few hours of my time.

All in all,i will ONLY make one mistake from the above 6 points. Thats the 500k taxi fare for the whole day. But well,i am a newbie or 1st time traveller to Batam,come on...one mistake for now and forever i wont have a chance to make it again. So is the 500k worth? My taxi is from the hotel,so it is afterall a little more reliable than Harbour's taxis,and if in the event there is anything not right,who do i look for? hehehe...you know,i know..everybody knows. The hotel of course!

Safety 1st. And dont worry too much on budget as it will still be within the budget spending i quoted on your last year's post during May 2014 (i do read back a lot):

https://sbf.directory/showpo...ostcount=25387

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Here is what happens next, i reached the hotel pretty early like, 9:30am, was told only can check in at 12pm, so no early check in. Ask driver to bring me to clean massage, and here is where i go wrong, should had picked a list of massage place posted by bro nono, but in the end he brought me to this place called Nagoya Spa & Massage, price listed for a 2hr Aromatherapy was 300k. My instinct tells me its more than expensive but i decided to take it anyway. Thankfully the massage was decent and the therapist was good and thorough.

Nagoya Spa and Massage is a good place for massage,bro. The price is on the menu as stated. Yes,they are more expensive than other massage shops but what you are getting is close enough with Spa Secret standard of massage tho not as good. But its one of the lowest in pricing under the same category kind of top class massage. In my point of view,this is not a mistake. Its always good to try all categories of massage in Batam which will enrich your experience in your future trips to Batam.

Read on,you will understand better...

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

After massage, driver brought me around to look for girls, went to quite a couple of joints, first thing he suggested to me was to go to Morena, but i flat out reject him when i rem what bro nono said about them. He den brought me to MM Massage, Happy Massage, Indah 2. Saw a nice cewek i like at 1 Juta from MM massage, confirmed with the mandarin speaking Papi whether its only 3 shots max, he said yes and i just told him that i'd consider and left.

Look like the taxi driver only brings you to 2 out of the 5 major joints.

Gold Bird and Happy 8. And Happy 8 being the 2nd most expensive big sized booking joint in Batam. (no.1 ranking goes to Bunga Massage from my perspective)

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Finally reach gold bird, alot of selection but stock seems normal, only 800k and 1 Juta ceweks available, chinese speaking papi told me 3 new Cewek priced at 1 Juta, the rest 800k. One chubby cewek caught my eye, tried to negotiate the price down to 900k but Papi seems firm and i reluctantly agreed to paid the price, another mistake here, should be more firm on the bargaining..

Lucky you,picked a girl from Gold Bird. In my opinion this is one of Batam's most stable joint. Dont worry about not being able to bargain down the price from Gold Bird,cos even the most experience bros will find it hard to bring down the price.Believe me, i studied all OKT's characteristic in nearly all the booking joints i visit and the hardest nut to crack is none other than from Gold Bird. Its the only joint that even i have to come out with many tactics to bring down its price,worse than Permata Indah's mami. Chinese speaking SYT in Gold bird usually cost 1 mill and up,so its fair from a newbie's perspective. You visited other joints,you should see their pricing versus girl quality to understand...hehehe...

There is no mistake on this part in anyway. The way i see it,you tried to bargain and you are lucky that you failed.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Go eat lunch with the girl, quite sure the driver brought me to HIS restoran so i think i was charged a bit more than i should be paying..

Is there a name of the place where you eat? How much did you pay for the food? If its not a substantially big amount,then it should not be a bad one. One of the guys in one of my much older newbie group trips got pulled off by the girl from my group to windsor food court for dinner which cost him more than 700k for 2 pax (him and his girl only). Now,thats what i call big head over small head and get a big carrot chop.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

After that its back to the hotel, checked in, everything was pretty SOP from that point onwards.. girl was really friendly, respond to me, managed to get 4 shots until the next morning, but she was kinda reluctant in giving me BJ. Thats the only minus sign, we ordered room service at night, spent abt 200k for both of us.

4 shots should be pretty fair,thats why i say you are lucky you went to the right place to get a fairly good girl,hehehe...as for bj,like i say before...most girls in Batam dont like to bj for guys or to be able to get some mind blowing bj or bbbj would be rare. Want a better bbbj or bj,you will have a better chances with older MILFs becos while they may not have the look,they will try to supplement their lack of looks with better service.

Room service food for 2 at 200k is a norm,Formosa would cost around that price too. Gideon, KTM resort and Goodway room service pricing will shock you,hehehe...

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Next morning go have free breakfast, food was pretty decent, not a wide spread, one bad part about the service was that the staffs dont seem to be refilling beverages, popular drinks like orange juice and milk runs out and they don't refill them. Tip the girl 150k and off she goes.

Feedback to them to help them improve. They are still considerably new. Just like Hana Hotel,a 2 star hotel who starts off their business for about 1.5 month w/o any wifi coverage,hehehe...

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

I will now talk about the hotel in general, pretty nice ambience in the room generally, but it would be great if they provide bath tubs in Deluxe rooms, water pressure was poor, LED tv has decent channels ranging from movies to sports. Hotel staff were really friendly always smiling and greeting me, asking if i need anything, wifi signal is strong in common areas and corridors but im only getting 2 bars in room, maybe its because im taking the corner room.

If wifi is essential for your stay,in future you can always request the receptionist to get you a room with stronger wifi signal. Corner room are usually bigger room,sometime big enough to fit in more furnitures...err...well...more choice of area to bonk around?

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

However, my confidence level on the hotel dropped when i went out for movies and massage on the second day but shockingly when i return, i found that my door was not locked properly, luckily my valuables are all on me, i also found that they disabled my room card and room wifi. Not sure what happened, but they must have mistaken that i am checking out on the second day, funny thing is, my backpack and clothes are all intact in the wardrobe. I will probably not stay there on my future trip, the walking distance to nagoya hill mall is manageable, Formosa is just a more strategic location.

Ok,when its time to check out,which is usually 12pm,and if you didnt inform the receptionist in advance for a late check out,this kind of things do happen from time to time becos the housekeeping guy/lady didnt know if there is anyone in the room,so they just step in to make up your room w/o touching your personal belonging.

Solution : Put a Do Not Disturb sign outside the door knob in future to inform them not to make up your room or better still ,inform reception of your late check out. I will do both tho,hehehe...kiasu ma...lol.

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

Had a 2HR foot reflexology session at nagoya hill malls, sawadee massage, pls note that they have male masseurs. Price and massage were ok, but if u like massage with good ambience, not really recommended.

How much did the massage or foot reflexology cost you in Sawadee?

See,here's why i wanted you to read on. I told you Nagoya Spa and Massage is a better place earlier,but they will cost more due to the ambience and the better personal touch service provided. Occasionally also have...errr...hehehehehe...try a few more time and you will know.

If only you stayed in Formosa,massage places during that point of time are just within small walking distance away. Relax Massage for foot reflexology by men,a stone throw away? Nagoya Spa and massage,1.5 stone throw away. King massage whether for foot or body is only a phone call away,hehehe...not forgetting Linda Massage and Bridge massage are just round the corner within 1 or 1.5 stone throw away too.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by CelestialBeing

I'm glad i made the solo trip, but i feel that i made too much mistakes, hopefully will gain more experience in future trips, i want to explore the area more, not just Nagoya hill mall area, would like to get contacts of more reliable drivers, because i think that for bros who like to visit as many joints as they like before settling on a booking, walking is not really an option. Taking short taxi rides to different booking joints, dont seem very economical. Would love to join bros here on a group trip if time and schedule permits.

I read thru your FR no less than 5 times.No matter how i look at it,i can only find 2 mistakes and they are not like a REALLY big mistake.

1. Wrong Hotel stay for a beginner from my personal perspective.

2. Booking full day driver at the wrong place (or if its newbie me,i booked 500k/day tho i know its a mistake but it must be from hotel reception)

Keep this in mind,there is no such thing as a reliable driver in Batam or a reliable OKT. My summaries already says it many times,any taxi drivers i used were all "unreliable".

Walking around is the best way to boost one's confident in Batam. I met bros here from my group trips who didnt even DARE to walk in into a booking joint w/o company. There is always a 1st time for everything,its only a matter of getting used to it.

In my solo trip days,i walked.i visit booking joints,dwell in them for hours. I source for solutions. I dont have to visit all the joints in a single day,i usually goes 3D2N,so i divide the joints i plan to visit by 2. Moreover,there will always be next trip. I always remind myself,hehehe... God only give me one dick,and there are many girls in Batam i wish to bonk. Take one step a time when you are new. i know which are the 5 major joints,stick to this 2-3 out of 5 for now and save the rest for other days.

In my 1st day of my 1st Batam trip,i only visit one joint,hehehe...and got a big fat girl. 1 of the thing i feel i can be a little different from others is when i am in a situation or be face with a problem,i learn to seek a solution (or 2) instead of blaming (not referring to you),hehehe... what i share about Batam in this thread are just personal experience meant for sharing, learning purposes and at most time they are my "side notes" for my own future Batam trip reference. Anyone willing to pick up my experience to use it in their Batam trip is entirely up to them.

I commented on your FR purely base on providing solutions to issues you encountered from my perspective.

__________________________

If you happen to be interested in joining my upcoming Sept 2015 Newbie Learning Batam Group trip (i know,you didnt say you are) ,do keep a look out for my Sept itinerary in this thread regularly. It will be out usually about 7 to 10 days before the actual trip and there are no monetary charges,just read my terms and conditions,agree to it and send me an intro of yourself (age group,race,your experience in Batam etc) to me AFTER my itinerary is out on Sept 2015. But i need to say this beforehand,due to limited car seats,i am unable to accept everyone who PM-ed me during those time.I can only pick those who shares the closest frequency with everyone who are in. If you are not the chosen one,it does not mean you are not good or anything. There will always be group trips on Oct,Nov,Dec and Jan 2016,like the rest of the previous months.

I usually will tell people that if no one comes,at most i just run solo which i enjoyed better,but this coming trip will again be a little different from my last few other group trips.I cannot say i will run solo anymore becos i already have a confirmed 1+1 at the point of this post,hehehe... Its suppose to be my "blessed trip" (unlike my 19th trip on Aug that is suppose to be "cursed"),so i am planning a little bigger in group size,perhaps combining both Private group with Newbie Learning group together. Nothing is confirm yet.

My usual objective,we go together,we learn together and then we can all grow together. Be it in this thread or in Batam.

[Seth El Nino]

Originally Posted by ciwilover

hi guys, sorry for my silly question.

i notice the most reliable joint is golden bird, correct me if i am wrong.
but is there other joints thats reliable as well? in terms of my cewek won't went missing halfway thru with toopiak (stupid + piak) reason.

cam xia ha mi da... thank u very much!

Bro, i wouldnt say goldbird is the most reliable but the few more reliable joints are goldbird, bunga (since many gals were fr goldbird haha) or permata. Relatively higher chance of run-away gals usually from MM or indah2.

But then again I always believe luck is a huge factor, not everyone has the same luck. There are surely a mix of good & bad gals in every joint but u wont know it until u try it tats when luck comes in haha.

[ciwilover]

hi bro, yeah after reading all the review, i figure that mostly reliable is goldbird (+ many muda ) than bunga (many milf) oso permata (syt many but not so reliable, as from feedback more problematic with toopiak (stupid + piak) reasons to run away)

Originally Posted by Seth El Nino

Bro, i wouldnt say goldbird is the most reliable but the few more reliable joints are goldbird, bunga (since many gals were fr goldbird haha) or permata. Relatively higher chance of run-away gals usually from MM or indah2.

But then again I always believe luck is a huge factor, not everyone has the same luck. There are surely a mix of good & bad gals in every joint but u wont know it until u try it tats when luck comes in haha.

[1stClass]

Originally Posted by nono1973

Hehehe...next time ask the taxi driver to bring you to Sekupang or Nongsa area to eat sea food,then you can also become as handsome,hehehe... *joking*

I stayed in KTM resort (sekupang) once and to go alone out of the resort,i was quoted 100k and going anywhere to Nagoya from there cost 100k...lol. Lucky there is free shuttle service from the resort itself to Nagoya area.

Personally if I stay at sekupang area, I'll just rather stay in. And it is not a smart choice to stay there if you plan to visit all the "happenings" in batam.

Alternatively, you drop off at harbourbay, pick your match and go to your "sekupang" resorts and just enjoy yourself. Focus on the girl.

Originally Posted by whambamtksmaam

i also going batam tmr haha but haven decide if wanna stay a night at Da Vienna..i need a good sleep on a huge bed

I already booked my hotel. Da vienna sounds like a good hotel from the reviews and FR here. But I already found a comfy hotel to stay in. So most of my visits will be to that hotel. And I dun plan to get any joint girls, cos I always come prepared on what to do there. Joint girls are always, last resort for me.

[nescafeGold]

Originally Posted by localbest

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