AV Will Continue Raiding. The 2 Reasons Are..........

[YOGTorchBearer]

I think best advice is to stay away from HCs until the wind blows over. Meanwhile, there are FLs advertising on this forum. By raiding all the HCs and tuinas, the AV is forcing all these girls underground. Now it's even harder to catch and to monitor the activities. Previously, all concentrated in one place (HCs, tuinas), now it is every where - hotels, homes, sometimes even in the forests! Sigh... harder for cheongsters to cheong liao.

[abrams75]

Yap..i agree with you...too much of raid will force them to go underground...it sad and even ktv are also constantly being raid...guess this is going to be pretty frustrating...

Originally Posted by YOGTorchBearer

I think best advice is to stay away from HCs until the wind blows over. Meanwhile, there are FLs advertising on this forum. By raiding all the HCs and tuinas, the AV is forcing all these girls underground. Now it's even harder to catch and to monitor the activities. Previously, all concentrated in one place (HCs, tuinas), now it is every where - hotels, homes, sometimes even in the forests! Sigh... harder for cheongsters to cheong liao.

[uobboss]

The wind is so strong now . Maybe need to go over seas to make our money worth it .

[legendcy]

Guess time for enjoyment will be shorten...start looking for another "Lobang"

[MeiMei5151]

Dear bro player1381,

I noted that you have joined SBF just last month. However, I hoped that you are not a newbie when comes to cheonging. I just want to dispel and clarify some of the views and myths that you and perhaps many newbies hold.

Firstly, the HCs scene in Singapore is unlike many of us imagine it to be as seen in the movies or as practised in other countries - i.e. the HC bosses are well connected and have the ability to take care of their gals. This is far from the truth.

The industry practice here is that if the gals get themselves into trouble, they are on their own - no boss will pay their fines or help them get off the hook (they do not have the means anyway). In fact, the HC bosses can be bloody mercenary and selfish. Even if they know AV raids are prevailing, they chose not to inform their gals for fear that less gals will turn up for work or offer limited service to customers thus affecting their business. HC employees have always been instructed not to mention recent AV raids or checks to customers for fear that customers may stay away or dare not take up specials.

Our HC bosses are no benevolent employers but real blood-suckers of the worst kind. How much you think your $38 -$50 entrance fee goes to the gal? The gals get only $5 - $7. Some got no choice but even work for free. If they don't offer special, what do the gals earn? On top of this meagre wages, the bosses levy all sorts of deductions - $50 per month for tissues and oil, $xxx for food. Then there are penalties $50 a day if absent (double or triple on weekends and public holidays), $20 for being late, etc, etc

Another myth you hold is that by admitting to AV they will not disturb you. Firstly, paying for sex is not a crime or illegal. You are not in any trouble in the first place. However, by admitting to AV that you had sex with the gal, you are actually inviting trouble for yourself. The AV will have to file report (like all public servants) and take statement from you. Cannot anyhow say one customer admitted. Must take down your details and get you to sign statement. Then if decide to prosecute, will then have to call you to attend court as witness. If you back out, then they can charge you for giving false testimony. So now you see whether you get more or less trouble by admitting or not.

Have a heart. Those HC gals are also like you and me. They got families to feed and commitments to pay. Although they are a service provider and we are their clients, it is to our benefit that they are safe. We should not say it is not of our concern. Likewise, why should it be my concern to warn bros like yourself here? We are in this forum to share and to care. We may be cheongsters but we are no bastards. This is the spirit of SBF !

May you now be more enlightened. Amituofo !

Originally Posted by player1381

Your advice can get a lot of bros into trouble, if they listen to you and insist there is no FJ when there is

Making lie to AV can lead you to prosecution.

AV are not stupid, and after making hundreds of raids each year, they know what happen in each joint

My advice is simply tell the truth - if there is FJ, admit it and if there is no, then say no and AV will not disturb you. They are targeting the HC boss and gals

Don't try to anyhow protect the gals by lying unless you can afford the outcome. All the gals will be well taken care by the HC boss and the boss will do the necessary to protect his gals.

It's not our concern as we're paid clients. Why lie to AV and try ourselves into trouble?

[player1381]

I think you totally ignore what I'm trying to say.

I said, if we really do FJ with HC gals and suay suay we got raids, we just admit it. No point trying to tell lie to AV to protect the gals

You're trying to tell us, no, insist there is no sex involved

If we lie and nobody notices it, then no problem. If we insist there is no FJ and AV manage to find the used condom with our sperm, then 100% we'll be sent to cantonment and charged for obstructing to justice.

On the other hand, if we simply tell the truth, av will take down our particulars and statement, that's all. So far, as far as I know, none has been asked to testify in the court as HC gals will admit guilty (since cd is found on the spot) and there is no need you and I to be witness

I can safely say this as I've been caught 2 times in my 10 years of cheonging. My nric, address and statement is recorded on the spot. hp no is also recorded but so far, av has not contacted me.

This is because, I always use the real nric/name when I wrote on the record book at the reception and if there is FJ, I will just admit. If there is no extra, I'll say no

What you're trying to suggest to other bros is very dangerous, I think if some of them follow your advice during raids, they could be easily charged in the court, with their face published in the papers.

Originally Posted by MeiMei5151

Dear bro player1381,

I noted that you have joined SBF just last month. However, I hoped that you are not a newbie when comes to cheonging. I just want to dispel and clarify some of the views and myths that you and perhaps many newbies hold.

Firstly, the HCs scene in Singapore is unlike many of us imagine it to be as seen in the movies or as practised in other countries - i.e. the HC bosses are well connected and have the ability to take care of their gals. This is far from the truth.

The industry practice here is that if the gals get themselves into trouble, they are on their own - no boss will pay their fines or help them get off the hook (they do not have the means anyway). In fact, the HC bosses can be bloody mercenary and selfish. Even if they know AV raids are prevailing, they chose not to inform their gals for fear that less gals will turn up for work or offer limited service to customers thus affecting their business. HC employees have always been instructed not to mention recent AV raids or checks to customers for fear that customers may stay away or dare not take up specials.

Our HC bosses are no benevolent employers but real blood-suckers of the worst kind. How much you think your $38 -$50 entrance fee goes to the gal? The gals get only $5 - $7. Some got no choice but even work for free. If they don't offer special, what do the gals earn? On top of this meagre wages, the bosses levy all sorts of deductions - $50 per month for tissues and oil, $xxx for food. Then there are penalties $50 a day if absent (double or triple on weekends and public holidays), $20 for being late, etc, etc

Another myth you hold is that by admitting to AV they will not disturb you. Firstly, paying for sex is not a crime or illegal. You are not in any trouble in the first place. However, by admitting to AV that you had sex with the gal, you are actually inviting trouble for yourself. The AV will have to file report (like all public servants) and take statement from you. Cannot anyhow say one customer admitted. Must take down your details and get you to sign statement. Then if decide to prosecute, will then have to call you to attend court as witness. If you back out, then they can charge you for giving false testimony. So now you see whether you get more or less trouble by admitting or not.

Have a heart. Those HC gals are also like you and me. They got families to feed and commitments to pay. Although they are a service provider and we are their clients, it is to our benefit that they are safe. We should not say it is not of our concern. Likewise, why should it be my concern to warn bros like yourself here? We are in this forum to share and to care. We may be cheongsters but we are no bastards. This is the spirit of SBF !

May you now be more enlightened. Amituofo !

[player1381]

All the HC gals or FLs are well taken care of by the bosses or OKTs. They also have a few robert heads and sugar daddies to take good care of them.

In fact, for some of them, whenever they wants to return to their countries, they easily get 10-20 air-tickets when all they need is 1 and they pocket the other 9-19 tickets money

Some even get money from robert heads/sugar daddies to setup TNs.

So we really do not have to worry themselves, they know how to survive. We should worry about ourselves first

If you worry so much about your fav girl, I would advise you to fork out 10K a month to bao her, keep it to yourself so that you do not worry so much

[Spytheman]

heard the new AV boss is a laDY ; president scholar so can clear thing up dAMM FAST

[Tualiapnee]

wah the mention of AV boss being a lady makes my cock buay marikita aledi. I can imagine she will be real bitchy and looks like the PM's wife or sister.

[iwaniwan]

Must be more careful ........

[CockInPuss]

Originally Posted by Tualiapnee

wah the mention of AV boss being a lady makes my cock buay marikita aledi. I can imagine she will be real bitchy and looks like the PM's wife or sister.

No one seems to have a pix of AV boss leh. Otherwise, I will print it and paste on wall to thro darts at her.

[nokia611o]

no attendant list, shop kenna fine $ one k.
If argue with officer, and don't follow advice again, licence can be revoked.

[chinchiahoe]

Anyone can help to enlighten me, what happens if AV raids hotel room and we are caught? Any difference on the nationality of the gal?

[jacky chan]

My fren was caught recently, he was release on the spot . Tell the officer he know the gal n no money was involved. The poor gal was lock up more than 24 hrs, n later was send back hm within a week n this happen last week.

[DJ Jipaban]

if cheng hu & AV so concerned about spread of disease, they should bloody raid the gay massage parlors in chinatown and tg pagar plus all the gay bars too...they are the biggest contributors to HIV