Mistress

[Bazic606]

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Bazic, during my youth, I used to have an attitude that "if the girl does not respond to my overtures, it is her loss as I will move on".

I now know better. Successful people don't settle. They see what they like and then go get it. It more than just the "thrill of the chase" per se. It is a success habit that is all permeating and all encompassing, even to such a “mundane” enterprise as chasing girls.

Also, the Masterstrokes may look complicated on paper. But its actual execution is very easy. It just takes some astute observations (which already come naturally) and the clever use leverage. What’s more the so called “work” is mainly mostly “instructional” (e.g. to mummy and accomplice) in scope.

Always remember that the successful person is not outcome driven per se. (Jus has yet to master this attitude – he is still very obsessed with things going his way).

The successful ones are more concerned with the process that will allow for the highest probability in getting the outcome they want. They derive pleasure and relish the thoughts, analysis and rationalizations that go into the “process” itself.

It is precisely because of this discussion of the “process” that allows me to understand the underlying principles of Masterstrokes. It enables me to articulate what exactly is happening beyond that of simply witnessing and observing how they do it (whether in chasing girls or other ventures).

Now when I observe, I understand the rationalizations as well. And I can communicate strategies to people in order that they can benefit from it too.

Translating them thru your narration would prove to be too obscure. Experience does matter.
Coming back to your masterstrokes, your crutch mentality is like forcing her to a place where you want her to be and subsequently cutting off all escape routes and supply lines.
In human dynamics, she will tend to take an easy way out, which is provided by you. Yet again, such mindset is not good enough to mount a challenge. A ger who deserved to be "masterstroked" should possess minimum calibre to free herself from this fix.
From my routinal observation everytime I am at some dodgy ktvs, gers who command attention are less likely to be easy preys. Totally agreeable with you on the process thingy, sometimes, an adrenaline rush cause by a worthy opponent..........priceless....

[warbird]

Hi bro justime,

I met JJ yesterday PM. She was quite cold n aloof initially, but became friendly n warm once we got to know each other better.

Her assets: She is a classy n pretty woman, quite fair, very tall (about 172 w/o shoes), of small bony frame n medium build, n has proportionate figure n long legs. Natural B boobs (she told me) n perky ass. No prior childbirth or surgeries. She is 24 (born Mar 1985) according to her passport, but looks more like 28-29. Can the yr of birth in a passport be altered easily in China? She doesn't smoke n has a nice set of white teeth.

I normally prefer younger gals 18-24 in age n the previous 3 gals who accepted my BY are 19-21. I still want JJ bcos of her good looks, coveted height n sexy figure.

I expressed my desire to take care of her. She nodded her head. I inquired about the services I'll receive n the terms. She would prefer not to work at KTVs. She was a bit bashful but said OK to every service I asked for. I didn't want AJ or CIM though. I then offered a price. Not enough, she said, n requested X amt. I told her I would think abt it. I held her slender hand n touched her thigh...she didn't object.

Due to my time constraint from now until mid July, it would be more cost-effective if I allow her to continue running at KTVs but pay her much less. I called this PM to make my new offer. She kept saying 太少了, but agreed to meet. I assume that she has consented to my terms.

Thx n good night!

[cablesnwires]

Bro warbird,

Not trying to dampen your spirit, but I know a PRC girl who had 2 passports with different names and different birth dates. However, it is highly possible that she may be 25. Not a sure fireway, but you can probably test her out by asking which zodiac sign she belongs to. See how she respond to your question.

I'm also not sure how keen you are to get her, but to me your later offer may do you more harm than good; for the simple reason that she can always use your offer as a basis to lure other DFP and hold out for more.

Having said that, this is just purely my own conjecture, and may not have any relevancy to your proposal. I hope I am wrong...

[warbird]

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Bro warbird,

Not trying to dampen your spirit, but I know a PRC girl who had 2 passports with different names and different birth dates. However, it is highly possible that she may be 25. Not a sure fireway, but you can probably test her out by asking which zodiac sign she belongs to. See how she respond to your question.

I'm also not sure how keen you are to get her, but to me your later offer may do you more harm than good; for the simple reason that she can always use your offer as a basis to lure other DFP and hold out for more.

Having said that, this is just purely my own conjecture, and may not have any relevancy to your proposal. I hope I am wrong...

Hi bro cablesnwires,

Thx for the info.

I'll ask abt her Chinese zodiac sign.

I hv made my offer n if she says no, it's her loss. I normally prefer tall SYTs.

In dealing w/ these PRC MMs, we should adopt an "abundance mentality" n be fearless, flattering n funny. Drive a hard bargain, but always treat them w/ respect n be fair though. It should be a win-win situation. They get our money n we get their pretty pussies.

Cheers!

[ventu22]

Hi Bro Warbird,

Let me share some of my experiences in BY..

Identity : You cannot trust what you see on their passport. Some has "brought" identity back home which is belong to country-side gal who has no chance to travel out and use it to apply a new passport. The age, name are all fake.

Time management : These gal are hell good in managing their time in such game. They may engage not 1 but a possible 2 or even 3 at the same time. I find out my ex-gal still going out with others as late as 3am in the morning. Even the truth might not involve sex, but it left my imagination runs wild. Therefore personally I feel there is no exclusive in such arrangement no matter what amount is being offered. As a gauge, I spend over $6000 per month.

Unless we take the stand of just enjoying the moment being together and discard the rest of what she will be doing (behind your back).

Or I should say, if I could have acquire 10% of the bro justime skill set.. I probably would have better managed it.

Cheers!

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by ventu22

Identity : You cannot trust what you see on their passport. Some has "brought" identity back home which is belong to country-side gal who has no chance to travel out and use it to apply a new passport. The age, name are all fake.

Cheers!

This I heard it before 6 years ago....my ex-PRC gal told me that they are doing this but only they cannot escape the biometrics that ICA setup here...

[justime]

Originally Posted by warbird

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I normally prefer younger gals 18-24 in age n the previous 3 gals who accepted my BY are 19-21. I still want JJ bcos of her good looks, coveted height n sexy figure.

I expressed my desire to take care of her. She nodded her head. I inquired about the services I'll receive n the terms. She would prefer not to work at KTVs. She was a bit bashful but said OK to every service I asked for. I didn't want AJ or CIM though. I then offered a price. Not enough, she said, n requested X amt. I told her I would think abt it. I held her slender hand n touched her thigh...she didn't object.

Due to my time constraint from now until mid July, it would be more cost-effective if I allow her to continue running at KTVs but pay her much less. I called this PM to make my new offer. She kept saying 太少了, but agreed to meet. I assume that she has consented to my terms.

Hi Warbird, sorry for the late reply, but I was busy entertaining some business associates from the "sub continent" for the last two days!. Just some quick comments before I collapse in bed.

Personally, I am not too concern with age per se. I go with looks (beauty). I had some lau chio stunners who are absolutely gorgeous and wild in bed. And I personally find Hsu Chi in her late twenties looked better than in her early years!

Also more mature lass being ‘more experienced’ can be more receptive to suggestions. For a mature guy like self, there is an added advantage of looking less conspicuous in public when I go out with her. (I had an 18 year old mistress Singer who once met me in public wearing high stockings on a platform shoes, pigtails and carrying a teddy bear bag! Holy Anime! Good for cosplay-role play in a bed room setting but terrible in public!

Now to the main purport of your drawing attention to her age:

Yes, the older you are, the price and market rate do go down. Like COE, the next category is older than 26 years old (this is the ‘psychological age mark of mei meis). You should not pay the price of a 24 year old.

Use this fact to your advantage. Mistress have the life of a footballer, very few can command “Ronaldo-esqe” figures in late twenties or thirties.

Go for value proposition and use the age card against her if need be. Make it subtle though. When asking, discussing or negotiating terms and pricing, subtly allude to age: her birthday, views about marriage, future plans lend itself naturally into “age” equation. You can also say that XXX, is 20 years old and she agrees to be baoed for only SGD 8, 000. The psychologically triggers the glass ceiling for an older prospect!

You did very well by laying out the cards on the services you expect. Don’t know you did this intentionally or not, but you did a very important step.

Many people use the courtship / girlfriend route and mistakenly assume that they are Baoying a girl (mistress). This is NOT correct. What you are doing is simply giving the girlfriend an allowance or as the mei mei like to put it – help them with their living expenses. Expectations are not communicated and your allowance to her is taken for granted (nan peng you ying kai zuo de = boyfriend’s obligation).

You therefore need to make a distinction that you purchase her time and service. (No need to be so commercially crass about it if it is not your style – you can romanticize the relationship saying that I take care of you in return for love, loyalty and devotion).

(One important Test whether your prospect is girl-friend or Mistress is your ability to assert and articulate the service you expect or want. If you cannot do this step – you pursuit is in a girl friend mode! And expect a “girlfriend” type of service!)

Warbird, I see your point about letting her run KTV (just like I did with XH) especially if under time constraint. You must however be prepared to let her go. XH and JJ are obvious potential – they will defintely be ‘propositioned’ sooner or later. But unless a huge money is used as lures, I am confident XH will continue our little arrangement for quite some time yet as I did quite a good job of creating a crutch mentality in her.

Oh yah, I hope you do not pay all money upfront. Pay a small trench first. For XH, I give her upfront $500, followed by $500 every 10 days. I have an added advantage which you don’t have (presumably as you did not mention it!). I provided XH her accommodation! And accommodation is one way you can use to ‘control’ your mistress.

Gotta go zzzzz now. Cheers brother!

[justime]

Originally Posted by justime

Oh yah, I hope you do not pay all money upfront. Pay a small trench first. For XH, I give her upfront $500, followed by $500 every 10 days. I have an added advantage which you don’t have (presumably as you did not mention it!). I provided XH her accommodation! And accommodation is one way you can use to ‘control’ your mistress.

Some additional points:

1) Note that the accommodation I provided is the "budget" style Love style that I talked about earlier. Its a private apartment somewhere in the Balestier - Whompoa area. This arrangement is a 3-person sharing cost of a love nest organised by me. (There are altogether five girls living there but XH gets a single bed-single room -- my own personl Hotel 81 / Value Chain / Fragrance.)

Yes, just like a country stockpiling strategic reserves of commodities and weapon, I do 'stockpile' some ready accommodation at various times for my "cheonging" pursuit. If there is a lull i.e. no girls, I would sometimes make use of it as a makeshift office or a resting point. Currently my strategic stockpile is down to zero. And the bad news is that rents are steadily going up.

(Any property experts care to do a Mistress Love Nest Index? I am sure you know where the "hot locations" are!)

2) Those that frequent mummyless KTV knows that sometimes the girls in trying to persuade you to take their tai often promises you a lot. (And they almost always obscure from you the actual number of tai they have)*.

But after landing you as a tai, there is almost always a failure to deliver the service to your expectation. For me, their propositioning of you is sometimes more fun than the Tai itself (especially for places like BS ... which I have not been for quite some time! Quite missed it.)

* You can see sometimes see the "actual" number of tais these girls have by looking at their hands. Quite a lot of them write the room number(s) on the wrists-palm. Alternatively, they will key in your room number on their handphone. Too long a number - macham calling overseas or many single doube digits under the call lists gives a good indication of the number of actual tais they have.

What I am saying above is that there may be a discrapency between what is promised and what is actually being delivered. Paying upfront commits you to her delivered service levels as there are practically no such thing as refunds.

By paying her in 'trenches', you can stop the deal halfway if the desired service delviery level is too far against your expectation. You effectively have a "cut loss" option. (And a psychological weapon to compel her to buck up - especially if the 'service lags' occur in between payments).

[justime]

Originally Posted by ventu22

Time management : These gal are hell good in managing their time in such game. They may engage not 1 but a possible 2 or even 3 at the same time. I find out my ex-gal still going out with others as late as 3am in the morning. Even the truth might not involve sex, but it left my imagination runs wild. Therefore personally I feel there is no exclusive in such arrangement no matter what amount is being offered. As a gauge, I spend over $6000 per month.

Unless we take the stand of just enjoying the moment being together and discard the rest of what she will be doing (behind your back).

Cheers!

Hi Ventu,

For "over $6, 000 a month", you should have been accorded you better treatment. As I do not have a context of your mistressing experience, I will just pen down two points for now.

1) Is the arrangement made in the context of a girlfriend or Mistress scenario (refer to my 2 earlier post)?

I suspect that it is likely to be the former arrangement i.e. girlfriend (with allowance) and that you did not take the steps to convert her to a mistress despite giving her a mistress like retainer fee.

I will elaborate more on this later, including what Masterstrokes are needed to convert a girlfriend to a mistress.

Notice that I have made qualifying remarks throughout when I talked about my experience / arrangement with XH. She is technically not a mistress per se. Its more like a hybraid arrangement with some elements of "Patronage" in it.

2) Your $6, 000 will not be enough if your 'mistress' is an Ang Pai (or even a semi Ang Pai) or if she has high consumption / consumerism habits. As such, there is a need for her to develop alternative 'income' channels to feed the habit. This is a practical and logical thing to do - and one which I myself will do if the roles are reversed.

Think of money in a mistressing context like this: It is not the sum of money that is important here. It is the use of money (regardless of amount) in enforcing and consolidating your power status in your relationship with her.

The corollary of the poor use/execution of "money as leverage" is that the 'mistress' will always stretch the limits of your tolerance. The more they can get away with it the better.

3) I will talk more about it later, but the typical reaction of the Singapore male is all wrong when handling the above scenario.

a) Never meekly submit nor play the 'hurt' man.

In getting your mistress to execute your desires, you do NOT ever seek her understanding (in the vain hope that she will be sympathize with you, feel kinda bad and then be somehow emotionally blackmailed into compromising with you). It never ever works this way!

b) Also Never get worked up and all riled up - to use anger as way to enforce the mistress desired behaviour.

The "My way or the highway" threats are very dispowering - especially if not backed up by deed!

Calm, factual and rational tone that underlies the seriousness of your intention is best. Follow up on the relevant "punitive measures" - there must be one. But never of the "throw the baby along with the bathwater" variety such as immediately ending the mistress patronage! (Or you will be missing a hellva good opportunity to take your relationship at the next level.)

3) In addition, there are some intangible factors at play too for such a behaviour. It should be obvious that you have not met her emotional needs at some level hence her need to seek others. You did not provide the "crutch".

4) Will talk about "Time Management" - the Patron's and the Mistress a little later.

So Ventu, recognise any of these observations in your relationship? Care to share and elaborate on your experience? There may be several learning points that can benefit us all.

[warbird]

Originally Posted by ventu22

Hi Bro Warbird,

Let me share some of my experiences in BY..

Identity : You cannot trust what you see on their passport.......................

Time management : These gal are hell good in managing their time in such game. They may engage not 1 but a possible 2 or even 3 at the same time.........................................
Or I should say, if I could have acquire 10% of the bro justime skill set.. I probably would have better managed it.

Cheers!

Hi bro ventu22,

Thx for sharing ur experiences...

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Warbird.................................

Personally, I am not too concern with age per se. I go with looks (beauty). I had some lau chio stunners who are absolutely gorgeous and wild in bed. .................................................. .......
(One important Test whether your prospect is girl-friend or Mistress is your ability to assert and articulate the service you expect or want. If you cannot do this step – you pursuit is in a girl friend mode! And expect a “girlfriend” type of service!)

Warbird, I see your point about letting her run KTV (just like I did with XH) especially if under time constraint. You must however be prepared to let her go. XH and JJ are obvious potential – they will defintely be ‘propositioned’ sooner or later. But unless a huge money is used as lures, I am confident XH will continue our little arrangement for quite some time yet as I did quite a good job of creating a crutch mentality in her.

Oh yah, I hope you do not pay all money upfront. .......................... And accommodation is one way you can use to ‘control’ your mistress......

Hi bro justime,

Thx so much for ur guidance n suggestions. I'm truly indebted to u.

JJ wasn't feeling well today, probably due to drinking too much alcohol last night. She suggested meeting tmr to discuss abt ur "arrangement." Unfortunately, I wont be free until next weekend. I'm going to propose that her BY will begin in the 2nd half of next month when I'll hv more free time. She would stop running KTV (which she detests anyway). The arrangement could be renewed if our 感情 is good n if she could extend her stay in SGP. I'll also provide her w/ accommodation, not too far from where I reside. I'll pay her at the end of every wk.

Yeah, I shouldn't worry if she is 24 or 29 bcos I'm an old chi ko pek. She is quite a classy looker who happens to be very tall n sexy.

My 1st BY was a failure. I was treating the gal like a GF w/ monthly allowance n I didn't spell out the services she would provide. And I tried to please her...after I spent a good 30 minutes giving her multiple orgasms w/ my fingers n tongue, she merely opened her legs a bit wider n expected me to enter her in the missionary position. By then I was exhausted n my didi was completely limp...

What I really want is a mistress who can service me...after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Ventu,

.................................................. ........
The corollary of the poor use/execution of "money as leverage" is that the 'mistress' will always stretch the limits of your tolerance. The more they can get away with it the better.

3) I will talk more about it later, but the typical reaction of the Singapore male is all wrong when handling the above scenario.

a) Never meekly submit nor play the 'hurt' man.

In getting your mistress to execute your desires, you do NOT ever seek her understanding (in the vain hope that she will be sympathize with you, feel kinda bad and then be somehow emotionally blackmailed into compromising with you). It never ever works this way!

b) Also Never get worked up and all riled up - to use anger as way to enforce the mistress desired behaviour.

The "My way or the highway" threats are very dispowering - especially if not backed up by deed!

Calm, factual and rational tone that underlies the seriousness of your intention is best. Follow up on the relevant "punitive measures" - there must be one. But never of the "throw the baby along with the bathwater" variety such as immediately ending the mistress patronage! (Or you will be missing a hellva good opportunity to take your relationship at the next level.)

3) In addition, there are some intangible factors at play too for such a behaviour. It should be obvious that you have not met her emotional needs at some level hence her need to seek others. You did not provide the "crutch".
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Hi bro justime,

Fantastic advice!

One day after dinner, I had some disagreement w/ the gal n she said she won't go to hotel that night as originally planned, but asked me to meet her in a few days!?@#%...I was so upset that I ended my patronage right there!

I need to hv much better emotional discipline, hahaha.

Thx n hv a great day!

[ansonsohna]

Originally Posted by warbird

My 1st BY was a failure. I was treating the gal like a GF w/ monthly allowance n I didn't spell out the services she would provide. And I tried to please her...after I spent a good 30 minutes giving her multiple orgasms w/ my fingers n tongue, she merely opened her legs a bit wider n expected me to enter her in the missionary position. By then I was exhausted n my didi was completely limp...

What I really want is a mistress who can service me...after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Bro Warbird, sorry for laughing sir, but I find it very funny. I want to wish you all the best with JJ. Keep continue with your story. I am very interested to know more and to learn from you and Bro Justime.

Best thread ever!

[justime]

Originally Posted by warbird

My 1st BY was a failure. I was treating the gal like a GF w/ monthly allowance n I didn't spell out the services she would provide. And I tried to please her...after I spent a good 30 minutes giving her multiple orgasms w/ my fingers n tongue, she merely opened her legs a bit wider n expected me to enter her in the missionary position. By then I was exhausted n my didi was completely limp...

What I really want is a mistress who can service me...after all, he who pays the piper calls the tune.

Originally Posted by ansonsohna

Bro Warbird, sorry for laughing sir, but I find it very funny. I want to wish you all the best with JJ. Keep continue with your story. I am very interested to know more and to learn from you and Bro Justime.

Best thread ever!

Hi Anson:

Thanks for the support. Yes, I too enjoyed Bro Warbird’s sharing very much.

By the way, it is purely speculative but are you a regular visitor to International Plaza? I say this because when I ‘vocalized’ your nick – it sounded like “Anson de Sauna”.


Hi Warbird:

Great anecdote! As mentioned to Anson, I enjoyed it very much. Do you have more to share?

I believe a hearty congratulation is due your way. You have done everything right so far. Hopefully such incidents with your first BY are a thing of the past. (I will guide you along the way if you need me.)

I am now looking forward to you being a orchestral conductor, with JJ bobbing her head to the tune and the swing of your baton! Make beautiful music! (Innuendo in there somewhere).

1) I noticed that there is a ‘lag’ time (due to YOUR busy schedule - again good as you call the shots) before she ‘officially’ takes up position as your mistress. You might want to use this time for her to get a medical check up.

2) Now that you are on the verge of a Mistress based (as opposed to Girlfriend based) relationship, let me share with you some “benefits” by disclosing some fetishes that I and my brothers indulge.

I shall start ‘small’. I will share with you, bit by bit, the wilder and more radical kink elements as your relationship progresses.

BTW, brothers who are not in a Mistress based relationship can also try this:

Mistress Game 01: “Chocolatey fun”

This is useful game to indulge in - especially early on the relationship. (In fact I can say that is actually part of ‘creating a crutch mentality’ as it is quite a bonding and intimate experience).

My Secret recipe: Using a bottle of ‘Nutella’ (you may want to dilute it with milk or water) use a slow heat until it has a nice and googy constituency. Throw in some chillis in the mix (yes, chillis!) for some hellva nice flavouring. Add/sprinkle mint leaves to give it a nice colour and additional flavour.

Now the game is structured along ice breaker / getting to know you better basis. You want to discover each other’s erogenous zones early on.

Make sure that your chocolate mixture is just slightly warm, apply it on your gal’s body where you think is the most sensitive and lap it up by licking it off her body. Ask her if this is correct. And then get her to point out her parts that “she” thinks will get her off the most.( By the way, a lot of women don’t know where their erogenous zones are).

Now you do the same for yourself. Apply my chocolate mix on areas that gives you the most kick.

Experiment on other parts of your body. You will be surprised to discover a little more about yourself this way.

Now that you know her erogenous zones, it gives you an added advantage when it comes to pleasuring her!

Only one dis-advantage with this game for me:. Play it too much and you will gain weight!

Enjoy!

[StillLearning]

Hello Brother [justime],
Although I am new to this forum, I have read all the pages in this discussion thread.
I congratulate you on your generosity, taking the time to share and if I may submit, to educate your fellow men, as well as your excellent command of the English language.
As I am happily married to my first wife, who is caring, loving and lovely, unfortunately, I am not into "mistressing." However, your posts are logical, practical, and make interesting reading.
Cheers.
Sincerely,
[StillLearning]

Originally Posted by justime

I am at a quandary: Not sure if readers would like details pertaining to the Mistress Masterstroke #2 or just a cursory overview. Mistress Masterstroke #2 is rather long and can be long winded. By providing too many details, it would certainly bog down the pace of the narrative and might even bore some as it can be quite dry (as most “instructional” literatures invariably are).

So instead of providing detailed Method of Instruction, I will leave “bullet points”. I am sure many of the readers can fill in the lacunas (“missing bits”) to elaborate on this Masterstroke themselves.

1) Like, any business, Cash flow is important. Mike would make the booking for the night – but know this: he charges Xin2 booking through the credit card instead of paying cash to Xin2. There will invariably be delays of a few days before Xin2 is actually paid. (As an aside: Kabuki KTV –under the old management - is the slowest paymaster of them all. Sometimes taking up to two weeks! )

Without seeing cash in her hands, psychologically Xin2 is affected and a sense of desperation prevails on a subconscious level. Xin2 will be thinking how come she works so hard but does not see money in her hands. At the back of their minds, WLs are generally fearful of being caught and repatriated. If this happens, they believe that they will lose out on what they painstakingly earned.

2) Mike needs to eliminate the competition. Booking Xin2 day after day is not only a monumental effort but also sounds needy. You lose the respect of the Mistress prospect. Yet, you do not want any other gentleman coming along and scuttle your efforts by also offering retainership.

What Mike does is to offer Xin2 tips through the mummy (the minimum $150 to $200 applies). Mike would instruct the mummy to get Xin2 to sit with any business associates and friends of his that the Mummy recognised – at his cost. Mike is a classy guy. In addition to the complimentary bottle of cognac, he offers his friends and associate Xin2’s company together in the arrangement!!

It is an incredible Masterstroke, for not only would you business prospects be appreciative of that gesture (Impressive is for Mike not being here but yet still takes care of his business associates!).

Xin2 also foolishly thinks that Mike trusts her with an important job of taking care of his customers. In her reckoning, Mike is a good man. He gets and refers to her customers everyday. Mike esteem goes up in her eyes. What Xin2 does not recognise is that Mike is preventing her from building a customer base -even in his absence. The minimum amount of money offered for booking also serves to limit her income ceiling.

For added variety, instead of booking Xin2 for the whole session for him or his friends, he just call Xin2 to sit them i.e. Xin2 can continue to run tables. He makes this arrangement early, and tips her only $50 (remember that it is his intention to curtail her income potential).

Why? It is because once you sit a table, the WL is likely to not accept bookings. All the more so if she knows that her regular customer, Mike, is relying on her to take care of his esteemed guests. Xin2 also knows that she cannot leave Mike’s guest for too long an extended period unaccompanied. This limits the number of tables that Xin2 can run as she thinks that she cannot let down the thoughtful Mike who is her apparent benefactor.

3) Should Mike decide to leave early, he will always offer additional $50 to Xin2 to continue taking care of his friends who are still there (Hua and Jus are a stay long-long type of guest! ) – effectively this an extension to the booking.

Note that all these actions and bookings averagely cost $6, 000 per month ($200 per day for 30 days to simplify things). And then note that Mike offers her $8, 000 per month on retainer. You can see how compelling it makes for Xin2 to accept Mike's proposition from a financial point of view!!!

4) *To reiterate: Xin2 going rate is $200 for Fridays and Saturdays and $150 for the other days. Mike hardly pays premium on this. He does however occasionally adds tips to make the situation seem natural! His aim is to limit her income capacity by depriving her time and capacity to seek out new prospects and build a steady customer base.

Its a truism most seasoned cheongster can understand: familiarity breeds contempt. Sitting with regular for only a short while usually yields the same amount of tips (or even more as "gan qing"/rapport is established). Its therefore to a lady's financial advantage to secure as many regulars as possible. Mike's action is to slow down the process of "regular clientele building" or eliminate them together from Xin2 in order to make it more compelling to accept a retainer.

(Masterstroke #2 to be continued)

[ansonsohna]

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Anson:

Thanks for the support. Yes, I too enjoyed Bro Warbird’s sharing very much.

By the way, it is purely speculative but are you a regular visitor to International Plaza? I say this because when I ‘vocalized’ your nick – it sounded like “Anson de Sauna”.

Hi Bro Justime, u r very clever n observation. I'm shocked tat u can guess how cum I got my nick. Few yrs back, I regular in Anson de Sauna bcos I fall in love with one of the WL there. It make me broken hearted. If only u hv write yur thread earlier but better late than never.

I learn alot fr yur adv n help. 谢谢你! n pls keep writing, it wl save ple like me many heart ache n learn empowerment wh i hope I can use in my relationship. Can I aso be yur 徒弟?

[warbird]

Originally Posted by ansonsohna

Bro Warbird, sorry for laughing sir, but I find it very funny.... Keep continue with your story. I am very interested to know more and to learn from you and Bro Justime.

Best thread ever!

Hi bro,

It's regrettable that my first BY was such a failure. I really liked the gal very much n it took me 8 months (although I was overseas 60-70% of the time) to bed her. I'm her 1st ever BAO-er n she is my 1st ever BAO-ee.

Let me continue the story.....when I asked her to wake up my didi, she just gripped it firmly which caused a bit of pain. No BJ bcos she had never done it before. I then frenched her which helped my didi to stiffen. I completed the FJ in the missionary position. She refused cowgal or doggie. On standing up I felt significant pain in the low back...which persisted for almost a wk! And I later discovered a 1cm laceration on the shaft pf my didi which required antiseptic for 4-5 days to heal! The injury was caused by her long finger nails.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by justime

Hi Anson:

Thanks for the support. Yes, I too enjoyed Bro Warbird’s sharing very much.
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Hi Warbird:

Great anecdote! As mentioned to Anson, I enjoyed it very much. Do you have more to share?

I believe a hearty congratulation is due your way. You have done everything right so far. Hopefully such incidents with your first BY are a thing of the past. (I will guide you along the way if you need me.)

I am now looking forward to you being a orchestral conductor, with JJ bobbing her head to the tune and the swing of your baton! Make beautiful music! (Innuendo in there somewhere).
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I shall start ‘small’. I will share with you, bit by bit, the wilder and more radical kink elements as your relationship progresses.

BTW, brothers who are not in a Mistress based relationship can also try this:

Mistress Game 01: “Chocolatey fun”
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Experiment on other parts of your body. You will be surprised to discover a little more about yourself this way.

Now that you know her erogenous zones, it gives you an added advantage when it comes to pleasuring her!

Only one dis-advantage with this game for me:. Play it too much and you will gain weight!

Enjoy!

Hi bro justime,

You're indeed a consummate master in the game of BY!! I wish u had published this thread a month earlier!

Your Mistress Game 01 is quite an eye opener for a novice like me. I must catch up w/ lost time! 我以前都是白活的!

I'm happy to report that JJ n I hv reached total agreement as to the terms of BY. Due to my circumstances n time constraints, the RS will begin on 13 July for half a month, until 29 of July when she leaves for China. I guess extension would be optional.

She has also consented to having a medical exam n blood tests (I'll pay the cost). Should I get her a private doc or just send her to DSC Clinic?

In the meantime, I suggest that she work at DC as I could intro some frens/mummies to help her. She is not interested bcos she doesn't enjoy running KTV, she says. She adds that should I change my mind, be sure to tell her early for she may just return to China. I hv promised to give her a good time....

Thx again bro.

Good night!