ord from geylang , can come back sg ?

[justl00king]

Originally Posted by JWNY

ORD from GL of course can come back, they're not criminals, but just like maids - they are not allowed to marry in SG, papers which they have signed before leaving. They are considered a special group as defined in Immigration Act as



- http://agcvldb4.agc.gov.sg/non_versi...&meth od=part


JWNY

Bro,

From your link it specified that they can't come back.

[civilian]

Originally Posted by sosurfer

Hi brother civilian,

My wife actually signed a declaration that she is prohibited to come back to Singapore. I am not too sure of other cases as I have mentioned earlier.

I love my wife and I know she love me too, I have decided, started and will never regret with I am doing now...just thinking of ways to improve the life of my family especially my son that will be out soon, his education and much much more.....

Orr...like this say Bro ss, means you and wifr never actually try to come thru SGP la, is that correct to say? WALAN, MAKE PPL SIGN DOC PROHIBIT THEM TO COME BACK TO SGP IS REALLY KNNBCCB KAN SI PEH KAN SI BU EH SI PEH LAU LAN CUM SIA LAN!!!; DUN CARE WHAT WHAT PPL DO B4!!!

ya tar por must steady, got regret boh ee ser liao...
aiyah dun forget, congrats to you for baby... i pee 1 tiong zhai for you to the authority for you on the day your baby arrive ke ke ke ke ke. C.

[civilian]

Originally Posted by jdi813

so can it be done or not ??? always thought that there would be some loophole somewhere ???

my limit law is: contract agreemnt must have consensus "meeting of minds". Undertaking signed with full understanding of WL? I think is yes la, SGP authority wun make this kind of primary school mistake.

Contract agreement cannot be signed under duress; else make contract not binding/void. This 1 maybe can argue cos uneducated WL facing Immigration may have no choice but to sign. I think this 1 the authority are aware: if they rely on statutes, then confirm no need to tell ppl to sign. You come i, tungkap you, full stop. If you NEED to TELL ppl to sign; this means that it is a VOLUNTARY undertaking- i can dun sign mah. The Q are they told they have a choice not to sign; if not to this undertaking/doc not to come to sgp is hor gao gan 1.

if indeed its a voluntary undertaking; but if it is an acknowledgement to the WL that the relevant laws has been explained to her; then...no case.

this is my limited law la, bro with more better and cheem understanding pls correct if i am wrong. C.

[vmtech]

ORD-ed personnels are allowed to visit singapore after X number of years (im not sure on that X number can someone verify) as a tourist, however, they need to declare on the white card that they have worked in SG before, and when they cross over, do not, DO NOT even try to extend, come sg 14 day liao guai guai go home.

However, in the case of mine and a few others, my gf was using a fako pp to enter SG to work yonders ago, so, even she was honest, she's still guilty of the charge of coming into SG with a illegal passport, so im not sure.

my girl has been away from SG for almost 4 yrs already, im still not taking that chance, BECUZ her friends, and some of my friends' girl in the same situation took that risk, and 1 or 2 of them are sitting @ portsdown prison

if someone can comfirm the number of years ICA keeps the records that will be great, cuz after that they might be able to try enter SG afresh legally.

actually coming over to SGP to visit is just a matter of luck, my girl's friends have had some that got caught on the 1st try, some still popping in and out sg every few months.
But for those that are thinking of bringing them here to settle down, get PR and stuff.. forget it la..
maybe when she ORD 10-15yrs liao den u try maybe can :P

[ChokDeeDee!]

Originally Posted by vmtech

1) ORD-ed personnels are allowed to visit singapore after X number of years (im not sure on that X number can someone verify)...

2) ...using a fako pp to enter SG to work yonders ago, so, even she was honest, she's still guilty of the charge of coming into SG with a illegal passport...

3) actually coming over to SGP to visit is just a matter of luck, my girl's friends have had some that got caught on the 1st try, some still popping in and out sg every few months.

4) But for those that are thinking of bringing them here to settle down, get PR and stuff.. forget it la..

As for point 1, there is no hard and fast rule how long the ban will be imposed, some 1 year some 3 years but there is definitely a limit.

Point 2, Fake passport? Definitely an offence, no escape

Point 3, Need to come to SG? Write to immigration, you go by the rules and declare everything accordingly on the white card and at the immigration counter, you are alright. Technically by telling the truth you commit no offence, worst case is they send you back on the next flight.

Point 4, There are ways. Legally i mean. Depends on whether you are willing to go the extra mile to get it done.

"ORD already can come back to SG" is one of the most frequently asked questions. No one can provide a 100% answer. Its like asking "Some people strike Toto, will I strike too?" Only solution is to buy Toto yourself to find out

[ChokDeeDee!]

Originally Posted by civilian

my limit law is: contract agreemnt must have consensus "meeting of minds". Undertaking signed with full understanding of WL? I think is yes la, SGP authority wun make this kind of primary school mistake.

Contract agreement cannot be signed under duress; else make contract not binding/void. This 1 maybe can argue cos uneducated WL facing Immigration may have no choice but to sign. I think this 1 the authority are aware: if they rely on statutes, then confirm no need to tell ppl to sign. You come i, tungkap you, full stop. If you NEED to TELL ppl to sign; this means that it is a VOLUNTARY undertaking- i can dun sign mah. The Q are they told they have a choice not to sign; if not to this undertaking/doc not to come to sgp is hor gao gan 1.

if indeed its a voluntary undertaking; but if it is an acknowledgement to the WL that the relevant laws has been explained to her; then...no case.

this is my limited law la, bro with more better and cheem understanding pls correct if i am wrong. C.

Bro actually what they are told to sign is not a contract. That document simply ensures they have been told and notified of their ban. Signing the paper merely indicated that they have have understood and been notified of the law and consequences when breached.

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by ChokDeeDee!

As for point 1, there is no hard and fast rule
Point 3, Need to come to SG? Write to immigration, you go by the rules and declare everything accordingly on the white card and at the immigration counter, you are alright. Technically by telling the truth you commit no offence, worst case is they send you back on the next flight.

well being honest would mean telling the ICA she last time came SG to work with X pp, and now she has a legal Y pp. that's slapping herself on the face aint it ?

[ChokDeeDee!]

Originally Posted by vmtech

well being honest would mean telling the ICA she last time came SG to work with X pp, and now she has a legal Y pp. that's slapping herself on the face aint it ?

Bro, read point 2. The answer is there. Using fake passport before and still lie about it, XX months/years of sentence. Declaring use of fake passport before and re-entering telling the truth = reduced X months/years of sentence. An offence committed will be duly punished. She can take chances but not worth it. Not declaring on 1st entry = 1 offence, second entry successful = 2 offences, caught on 3rd attempted entry = Priceless, 2 successful re-entry attempts providing false declaration, laggi jialat penalty. Hope you understand the essence of what I am trying to say.

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by ChokDeeDee!

Bro, read point 2. The answer is there. Using fake passport before and still lie about it, XX months/years of sentence. Declaring use of fake passport before and re-entering telling the truth = reduced X months/years of sentence. An offence committed will be duly punished. She can take chances but not worth it. Not declaring on 1st entry = 1 offence, second entry successful = 2 offences, caught on 3rd attempted entry = Priceless, 2 successful re-entry attempts providing false declaration, laggi jialat penalty. Hope you understand the essence of what I am trying to say.

correct, exactly what im trying to say, if ger uses fako pp to enter sg to work in the 1st place, best is dont try to come in...

[civilian]

Originally Posted by ChokDeeDee!

Bro actually what they are told to sign is not a contract. That document simply ensures they have been told and notified of their ban. Signing the paper merely indicated that they have have understood and been notified of the law and consequences when breached.

Yes this is what i suspect. If like that then is boh pian liao... i recently check with one okt, he say this type (thai WL) cannot come back 1... so i guess those that come thru is hiong and lucky lor...C.

[Th4r]

Originally Posted by civilian

Yes this is what i suspect. If like that then is boh pian liao... i recently check with one okt, he say this type (thai WL) cannot come back 1... so i guess those that come thru is hiong and lucky lor...C.

Actually, I think most who pop in and out of Singapore after they ORD are the "Real Thai" ex-WL, true brew thai ...

Faithful thais ex-WL are so rare, imo, but some allowed to come/go freely. Faithful non-thais ex-WL more common, but banned from coming/going freely.

Suckers win ... as always

Just opinions ...
Th4r

[civilian]

Originally Posted by Th4r

Actually, I think most who pop in and out of Singapore after they ORD are the "Real Thai" ex-WL, true brew thai ...
Faithful thais ex-WL are so rare, imo, but some allowed to come/go freely. Faithful non-thais ex-WL more common, but banned from coming/going freely.
Suckers win ... as always
Just opinions ...
Th4r

not trying to be funny... but i really boh si mi understand leh dun mind can explain a bit... sorry ah noob la, may be you use too many lau chiao term i cannot catch the ball...C

[vmtech]

why not just type in proper english instead of dialects? i'm sure some members here cant understand "bo si mi" etc

[Th4r]

Originally Posted by civilian

... but i really boh si mi understand leh dun mind can explain a bit... sorry ah noob la, may be you use too many lau chiao term ...C

... nevermind lah, just opinions.

Cheers,
Th4r

[wavelet]

Originally Posted by sosurfer

Hi brother civilian,

My wife actually signed a declaration that she is prohibited to come back to Singapore. I am not too sure of other cases as I have mentioned earlier.

I love my wife and I know she love me too, I have decided, started and will never regret with I am doing now...just thinking of ways to improve the life of my family especially my son that will be out soon, his education and much much more.....

I have ask a cat150 WL about this question also. She told me that can get married in Singapore but she can never be a PR not to mention citizen. So, if I married her she can only comes here for a short social visit visa. She is a malaysian maybe different for thais