Depressed

[LoveAffair]

Originally Posted by cohen

If you can accept the best then stay but i cannot better let go or else long pain for both people but bestfor you to keep many eye on her this line very tempting to go back because of the good money..........

One FL used to told me that and she got very upset when I told her the exact same thing u mentioned. Her FB flood with hatred towards that particular FL saying "Not all of us will keep disrespect outselves like u do." i only re phrase it by saying I had a FL friend who told me that. Fact is, it's one on the FL I engaged thru SBF.

[LoveAffair]

This is one amazing kind soul story that touches my heart.
I am not leaving his nick because of privacy reason as he uses PM. Here goes :

I use to have a gf that is a fl here. A chinese fl. And like all the bro here say dont trust them. And so i
Did. But in the end, after she left, i found her last diary that she wrote and realise how much i have hurt her and she love me much to change and all this while i was a jurk. I was so sad that i took the firsy flight with a wedding ring to see her. And by the time i
Propose to her, she say why i come so late. She already is someone mistress and she cannot bear to leave him cos he give her a lot of money.

Bro, dont be like me, u know its not easy for a fl to change but if they do, its becos they see some one worth it. But if u continue to do what u are doing, she will be a worst person than before. And u will be sad that u actually harm the one that love u most.

I have no more chance, but u have. Dont waste it


My reply : Thanks alot bro. This is one hell of the best I got so far. Very appreciate.

[S.B.Y.1]

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[MarkNgSiongBoon]

IGot to be clear your mind ....and choose with her or not ,If yes you must learn to forgave her past .
If you think her past is super important for u! there is no way to move down the next level ..

also think back did you get to know any perfect girl in the world got no history?
so of them also kanna big hole by her own BF already even they not a chick ..

it's hard for a chick to change to normal woman as you Bro Love affair mention ...this is true ,they will only change if they meet someone which they really love...now you both met together its a fate ,put down the face matter and look into future - cause its not present its past ..
Let nature take it course ..0
you forgive another ,another forgive u too good luck !

[LoveAffair]

Oh my God. What are u trying to prove brother S.B.Y.1? Doesn't do anything to help? I already admit to looking for FLs and some FLs that I look for wasn't even from SBF. It doesn't make any difference for u to say all these and I am quite surprised by your effort in looking up all that I've post in SBF.
What I meant was there's one FL who told me that and that doesn't mean it's one of the 2 I engaged in SBF. I'm still confused as what u are trying to prove by quoting my FRs when I already mentioned i did indeed look for FLs here. Sighs.

[S.B.Y.1]

Good luck bRuR

Pak sincerely wish you all the best in your decision

[LoveAffair]

Originally Posted by S.B.Y.1

Good luck bRuR

Pak sincerely wish you all the best in your decision

Of course I wouldn't know how she feel. What if I told you the reason was purely stupid. By helping her ex bf to clear debts? Or to satisfy herself on branded goodies? There are a thousand and one reasons which is plain ridiculous my friend. So do not assumed. I have to reiterate Do Not Assumed it is only out of desperation. I do know of gals who did that too. 

For u to say : 
"Its those unkind remark that are more hurting to her than doing what she has been doing = Believe it that no sane lady would do it for the fun of it"
My reply is you ought to be a little more alert when reading my initial thread. Obviously it is hurting when I insulted her. I even had sleepless night doing that. But have u ever wondered what makes me reacted this way? Lies. 

You also mentioned : "As for the no laying of hands part that just shows how egoistic, inept and insecure you are."
Sorry to say that I really do feel this way. My ego is always high and true enough I am feeling very insecure. 

I gotta add on something which I still stick to my stand. About my future daughter. Yeah.. If she's gonna be an escort(touch wood) so she gotta accept being criticized by the man she love. If she is unable to take criticism then dont even go to the escort line from the very first place. Have u seen young gals working as waitress and taking 2 jobs an not resort to selling themselves even when family have been harassed terribly from loansharks?  
I already mentioned breaking up but it's her who refused up till this day. To conclude, verbal abuse no matter how heated it may be, it's still better than laying hands isn't it? What's your take on that? I truly stick by what I think. you have your say and I got no time to debate anymore. Thanks alot "Pak."

[S.B.Y.1]

Nice signature bRuR

[sinner1234]

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

Of course I wouldn't know how she feel. What if I told you the reason was purely stupid. By helping her ex bf to clear debts? Or to satisfy herself on branded goodies? There are a thousand and one reasons which is plain ridiculous my friend. So do not assumed. I have to reiterate Do Not Assumed it is only out of desperation. I do know of gals who did that too. 

For u to say : 
"Its those unkind remark that are more hurting to her than doing what she has been doing = Believe it that no sane lady would do it for the fun of it"
My reply is you ought to be a little more alert when reading my initial thread. Obviously it is hurting when I insulted her. I even had sleepless night doing that. But have u ever wondered what makes me reacted this way? Lies. 

You also mentioned : "As for the no laying of hands part that just shows how egoistic, inept and insecure you are."
Sorry to say that I really do feel this way. My ego is always high and true enough I am feeling very insecure. 

I gotta add on something which I still stick to my stand. About my future daughter. Yeah.. If she's gonna be an escort(touch wood) so she gotta accept being criticized by the man she love. If she is unable to take criticism then dont even go to the escort line from the very first place. Have u seen young gals working as waitress and taking 2 jobs an not resort to selling themselves even when family have been harassed terribly from loansharks?  
I already mentioned breaking up but it's her who refused up till this day. To conclude, verbal abuse no matter how heated it may be, it's still better than laying hands isn't it? What's your take on that? I truly stick by what I think. you have your say and I got no time to debate anymore. Thanks alot "Pak."

Dear Bro loveaffair,

Reading through your thread and after going through your quoted reiteration as above, allow my humble comment.

You have to part ways.. and it's sooner than later.

It's a waste to me that you can find someone who loves you BUT ("Bei ai shi xing fu.. ai ren shi tong ku" = Being loved is bliss, to love is torturing), your actions and mentality may never cross this one big obstacle.

By carrying on, you are bringing accumulated sadness to both of you and the results could be disastrous later on.

The ball is totally in your court. Much as the advises are there, but some people cannot breach it as it's a mentality thingy.

Finding someone to love you is really very difficult......... really.......
If i am in your shoes, i will brainwash myself. Start clean and afresh.... by letting bygones be bygones. the path is definitely full of hope and positive happenings.

Take care and i wish you all the best in the R/S.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

After having sex with her, we got together. I never like treating gals for fun. Reason because I will always imagined myself having a daughter being fuck by numerous guys. After having sex with whoever, I always managed to start a r/s to see if things do work out. That's my way of doing things...

Though a very noble & righteous way of viewing things, but one must know which application is to be applied when and on what circumstances.
Your current state is because you applied this stance on a wrong circumstance.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

Anyway back to the topic.. I was together with her and we got so close together that we talked about simply anything and somehow the topic of Sammyboy pops up. I then asked her about it. She's not honest with me at all initially. But friends of hers are doing it from what I heard from her phone conversations. Trying to be positive, I trust her.

Bro, this is not trying to be positive, even when you type this post, you are lying to yourself, look at these golden rules i copied from my siggy:
The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!!
The 4 Golden Rules in life:
1) 不要欺骗自己 Do not lie to yourself
2) 不要出卖自己 Do not sell yourself out
3) 不要背叛自己 Do not betray yourself
4) 不要对不起自己 Do not do things that you'll be sorry to yourself
是你的，就是你的。What's yours is yours
不是你的，不要抢！If it ain't, dun snatch it!

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

Been almost a year... and we are staying together. She got a job as a normal sales staff earning very minimal pay. I see changes in her almost instantly which touches my heart. She is not materialistic at all which is tremendous.

Can you verify this as 100% true or is there a possibility that she could be moonlighting behind you?
Also, if she doesn't have that so called job, then how is she suppose to have that work permit to allow her to stay here for so long and to be a FL?
You been to her workplace before when she claims she goes to work?
Or you just send her there and wave bye bye?
You know where my statement is leading to right?
After you leave, she may also leave and continue FLing

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

I still insult her(My bad) for those guys that she services.. for being a slut.. each insulting words I used on her hurt me too. It's like using my own dick and slapping my face. I just don't know why I did that during arguments. Most of the time, I raised the arguments. I am still very upset about the whole lie. That whole incident. I felt it was not being fair on me. During sleep at night, I would have nightmares or imaginary visions of how our fellow bros fcuk her. It hurts.... hurts badly..

You are doing this because you are very hurt by what she didn't confess or come clean with you in the 1st place, thus you are very emotionally scarred and this is your body's way of retaliation.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

The most painful part is no matter how much attempts I tried PMed the admin or the agent to remove those FRS no one seems to be bothered. The Frs are long overdue. Almost a year. I am so lost. What should I do ????
Please advise me..........

By erasing those threads or posts, you will not change anything nor will you be able to wipe her past away like that.
So, in my opinion, leave it and trust me, it will come useful one day.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

On numerous occasions, I wanted a break up but each time I see her cried so hard I hold back, I gave in.... I still love her because of the changes she made for me. She stop contacting most guys in fact all except for her cousins, sisters and a few school friends even though I told her I do not mind her contacting guys. Is it unhealthy? I did my best to love her during this time too. Make her feel clean once again... I did everything......

What you did is what you did, what's in her mind and what are her WANTS are the most important thing you have to know & figure out not from her mouth but from little clues lying everywhere everyday.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

But am still feeling so heartache when thought of it. What the hell is wrong with me? I wanted a breakup once and for all because its been a year plus we are together and Im still being painful.
Sometimes out of anger, I would drop in to this forum to look for local FLs..
It's like letting myself having sex with another one hoping she would find out and let her understand how the fcuk I am feeling.

Just advise me on what am I supposed to do...

This one i cannot say you are right or wrong, but i personally find it very boliao cos you are not helping nor are you destroying anything.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

I am merely asking for advises from anyone who had almost the same experience as me before. It took me a while quite sometime to share this. So please respect my feelings when you do reply. Be sensitive to my feelings. With Appreciations... Thanks......

Before you ask for any advice, answer yourself a simple question.
Can you let go?
Or
Dun wanna let go?
If you can let go, then you dun need to post here but then again, if you cannot let go, whatever you ask here, the answers still will not change your mind.
You are seeking an exit.
An exit from the truth that she was or is still a FL.
Yes, they are all human, granted but do remember, the mind of a FL is very different from the one we should even consider as a wife!
Their main purpose for everything they do is $$$$$$$$$$
Love is secondary.
To them, they know they're attractive enuff so they aren't afraid of loosing a partner cos they know, they will have a replacement before you even know it who will still dote on her etc etc

Your story is very one sided, its all about you and what you found out about her here in sbf.
Yes, i know its tough in your mind now but you must use your big head to control everything you do now.
Use brain to fix matters, use heart to fuck up matters.
In your current state, you should know what to use but you're not using it.
There's a yes and no in your mind too, that's your intuition talking to you!
My personal strong advice to you is, listen to it.
It's our safety mechanism toking to us and its right more often than wrong.

My advise to you is, time to play stalker, but of cos, you must never let her know.
Follow, from work, after work etc etc
If you see anything, DO NOT CONFRONT, you just got confirmation of what you tried so hard not to believe, so just walk away and close case.
Put spyware on her phone so that every call and sms you will know.
Ask her for all her passwords like QQ 微信 etc and go see.
If she doesn't want to give you, you should be very worried, cos for all you know, all her contacts and personal dairy is there!
Remember, if this woman is gonna be wif you and even bear your kids, you MUST be able to accept her past like a bad dream but if it's really past, leave it there and dun bring it back.
Sad to say bro, it's very hard to walk away from being a whore once you are one.
Worst, you mention u dun read chinese, damn, you're already in big disadvantage liao!
So watever the case now, everything must be proved beyond a benefit of a doubt.
DO NOT SEEK HER FRIENDs FOR OPINION OR ADVICE cos they prolly in cahoots in this
Everything do it yourself cos once you see wif your own eyes, there's nothing to condemn or deny already.

An advise before i end here, everywhere we go or walk, there will be the occasional holes in the ground.
These holes can be clearly visible to our naked eyes, so we have A CHOICE whether we wanna walk past those holes or jump in there.
Thus: The Choices We Make, Dictate The Life We Lead!!!

[sammyboyfor]

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

I truly stick by what I think. you have your say and I got no time to debate anymore. Thanks alot "Pak."

Forget about marrying whores. Once a whore, always a whore.

You may be feeling all lovey dovey and emotional now but after a couple of years of marriage to a whore, the thrill of a new relationship will be long gone, life will become boring and mundane and the reality of what you have done will set in.

She'll feel the the same way too and will have no qualms about "going back to work".

Don't be an idiot. Just tell her that it won't work and move on with your life.

I don't know how old you are but if you're aren't financially independent yet, I suggest you forget about pussy for the time being and concentrate on building up your net worth.

[FarAway]

Hey bro TS,

Do ask yourself how you are viewing this r/s. Of course it's easy to say what love is selfless love is blind all that bull, in reality sometimes it's difficult to mend things that are broke, or forget things that you know. Ask yourself how far you are willing to accept this person for who she is, whatever happened is in the past, if you cling on to it even with the threads deleted it will still stay lodged in your mind.

Imagine everytime you have sex with her you will think of all those bros who have uped her before.. then this r/s is a goner more or less. Most guys can't accept this, they will rather they don't know all their life, trust me. If this is your threshold, have a clean break and move on asap. It won't be easy but it's a sure step forward.

My 2 cents..

P.S. kudos to big sexy bro for trying to help TS in deleting of threads, the result regardless

[hotstuffm8]

trolololol

[Big Sexy]

touching???? really???
that story only amplified the point that whore cannot be trusted.

Originally Posted by LoveAffair

This is one amazing kind soul story that touches my heart. .....And by the time i
Propose to her, she say why i come so late. She already is someone mistress and she cannot bear to leave him cos he give her a lot of money.

[burningicez]

Agree! they will not be any future if you cannot forget her pass!!! Let her go...

Originally Posted by arsepool

Brother
Be realistic ....
You will keep thinking of her past.
If you cannot let go, if you mind, then be a gentleman, let her go.

giving her false hope is far more damaging.

Do the right thing.

Else, just look beyond the past, see her and who she is now.