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Old 02-05-2015, 02:46 PM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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Not that it will help ts now. What is a rainy day and did you plan for it?

Right now I c a number of factors that will reveal in time

1. Health of your parents. Are they covered?
2. You and your wife's employability if you are over 40
3. Your kids education
4. Your kids future mistake. Think Amos Yee
5. Your families health and coverage

we can't make your current state of things look better but do know it can do a lot worse. You are caught here since it wasn't planned for.

Bite the bullet and build towards planning those scenarios in for your future and be thankful you can still breathe

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Luck favors the prepared mind. Dun get to bog down by current state of things. Know that things can get worse. Increase your energy level by staying healthy, exercising. You will think positively and act on positive notes.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:00 PM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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Don't forget, 80% of the local population live in HDB flats. Every condo block you see only represents 19% of the population. For every person living comfortably in a condominium, 4 people live in HDB flats.
Therefore with a 5m population, is it fair to say 1m stay in million dollars condo?
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:04 PM
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Therefore with a 5m population, is it fair to say 1m stay in million dollars condo?
Yes I guess it is. What's your point?
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:15 PM
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Yes I guess it is. What's your point?
Nothing. Just wondering who moved my cheese. And who will be moving our cheese when we are 7m.
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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Nothing. Just wondering who moved my cheese. And who will be moving our cheese when we are 7m.
And... Guess what, I found out that Resident Population means Singaporeans and PRs. It doesn't include "FTs".

I wonder if the percentage will stay the same at 6.9m. I am not a supporter of 6.9m.
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Old 02-05-2015, 05:08 PM
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And... Guess what, I found out that Resident Population means Singaporeans and PRs. It doesn't include "FTs".

I wonder if the percentage will stay the same at 6.9m. I am not a supporter of 6.9m.
Neither am I. I want back the space and harmony we used to enjoy.
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Old 02-05-2015, 10:32 PM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

4kids.. earning 2k before cpf. wife doing home biz earn only for her expenses(1-2k). i monthly have to even get from her to cover.. 10k is a dream to us. I dont chiong at all. living in sillypore really terrible for us
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:11 PM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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Let me help with the myopia. The next time you move around sg, look around you. For every commercial building you see, there is an owner. For every business you see, an owner. For every condo block you see, hundreds of owners who forked out >$1m each. Look around you to get a better understanding of the society we now live in. If my existence upsets you, I have news. There are hundreds of thousands like me around.
What utter misleading roobish!!!!!

It's well known many if not most buy property using mortgage. They pay downpayment cash n rest using cpf.
They dun need 15 yrs annual income in fd to get mortgage. N they pay over decades.

They also dun have million dollar cash jus becos they own a million dollar valued property. If they sell, nt likely they can get net million dollar cash

If u dun even know that, goes to show how rich u r cos u buy yr hdb in cash, right? Millionairejoe313

You may b very successful in making money bt you are very poor in arguing yr stand.
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Old 03-05-2015, 08:30 AM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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What utter misleading roobish!!!!!

It's well known many if not most buy property using mortgage. They pay downpayment cash n rest using cpf.
They dun need 15 yrs annual income in fd to get mortgage. N they pay over decades.

They also dun have million dollar cash jus becos they own a million dollar valued property. If they sell, nt likely they can get net million dollar cash

If u dun even know that, goes to show how rich u r cos u buy yr hdb in cash, right? Millionairejoe313

You may b very successful in making money bt you are very poor in arguing yr stand.
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Smart and willing - best employee.
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Stupid and willing - average employee. Stupid but he is willing to learn. Keep and groom.
Stupid and stubborn - Worse kind. Can't use brains, won't learn bec stubborn. Drop if possible. Avoid contact.

You belong to the last category. Argumentative, unskilled mind, emotive, anti establishment.

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Old 03-05-2015, 09:11 AM
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Re: Middle class Singaporean no more.....Sigh

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4kids.. earning 2k before cpf. wife doing home biz earn only for her expenses(1-2k). i monthly have to even get from her to cover.. 10k is a dream to us. I dont chiong at all. living in sillypore really terrible for us
Eh sorry but if u think living is sg is terrible but y would u want to have 4 kids?
I wouldnt think of having a kid if my financial is not stable enough.
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:07 AM
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Eh sorry but if u think living is sg is terrible but y would u want to have 4 kids?
I wouldnt think of having a kid if my financial is not stable enough.
Because it is really a joy to have a child. Something that money cannot buy. With 4, its quadruple joy.

Bro Didi123,
You just have to hang in there. You will not starve in this society. However, your journey will be tough. Do look to your children for inspiration. I hope you draw strength from them by watching them grow. My best wishes to you and your beautiful family.
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Because it is really a joy to have a child. Something that money cannot buy. With 4, its quadruple joy.
This shows how selfish you are. You bring kids into this world for your own joy and forget that kids are going to have to grow up and earn a living in that shit hole called Singapore.

If you really love your kids you should now be making plans to move to some country that has a real future.
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Old 03-05-2015, 10:49 AM
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Because it is really a joy to have a child. Something that money cannot buy. With 4, its quadruple joy.

Bro Didi123,
You just have to hang in there. You will not starve in this society. However, your journey will be tough. Do look to your children for inspiration. I hope you draw strength from them by watching them grow. My best wishes to you and your beautiful family.
this joker really something, can cry father cry mother say no enough money, support parents, support children, suddenly encourage fellow bro that its all worth it. Bloody two face.

Really such joy, wont cry father cry mother here already.
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This shows how selfish you are. You bring kids into this world for your own joy and forget that kids are going to have to grow up and earn a living in that shit hole called Singapore.

If you really love your kids you should now be making plans to move to some country that has a real future.
boss, I bet this joker later will say listen to you to consider, as he always does in what his best at, talk only. Like what he did quoted below.

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By changing my mind? Didn't you just mention a mindset change is the first order of priority?
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This shows how selfish you are. You bring kids into this world for your own joy and forget that kids are going to have to grow up and earn a living in that shit hole called Singapore.

If you really love your kids you should now be making plans to move to some country that has a real future.
Good morning boss. I have a bailout plan in the land down under. NZ is too sterile for me. How's it going there? Our children will find their own in the new world order. Mine is doing alright (in spite of having to fight a 600 lbs gorilla called Chinese).
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