An Affair with an older married lady... and the aftermath...

[junior_cannibal]

Mark has to understand what most women need, not a huge, monster cock but one that's good enough, more importantly, the owner of it that's willing to spend time to pleasure the woman with good foreplay, adequate hardness that can sustain for reasonable time and give the women their big O, ideally multiple times before the dick surrenders.
For Darren, he wasn't even having sex, he sounds more like a monkey or rabbit that goes around in the herd, if do without condom, to impregnant as many women as possible.

[junebaby]

Originally Posted by junior_cannibal

As if your current r/s not complicated enough, you are flirting verbally with June.
While you said you wanted to be faithful to Jasmine, you are doing something else.
The funny thing is, there are other ready pussy you avoided, yet going for one that finds your little Joe too small. 人的确都是比较犯贱的，Lol.

Maybe not such a good idea to get Mark to write my story. To clarify, I suggested he make them jealous by sleeping with someone else. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him.

His pickup lines definitely do not work on me.

Originally Posted by jamestan1

I think u just mind u have a small dick, or small compared to the other two guys. But it's u who intro them to ur girls. Can't really fault them for loving or mentioning it.

I had a friend who's dick is small according to one of his ex. We bought him an extension for his bday. He tried it once on his wife and she loves it. But he kinda regretted using it because the wife seem addicted to it.

Guys tend to think their tools are huge, but when alot of girls, or even one girl, says it's average, their ego suddenly take a hit. I don't think i have a big dick, even tho my FWB keeps saying i do, saying that's the biggest she had beside an angmoh she hooked up with.

I think what u have over Darren is that u give full service everytime u had sex with them. That's love-making. For Darren, it's just sex.

Originally Posted by junior_cannibal

Mark has to understand what most women need, not a huge, monster cock but one that's good enough, more importantly, the owner of it that's willing to spend time to pleasure the woman with good foreplay, adequate hardness that can sustain for reasonable time and give the women their big O, ideally multiple times before the dick surrenders.
For Darren, he wasn't even having sex, he sounds more like a monkey or rabbit that goes around in the herd, if do without condom, to impregnant as many women as possible.

Big dick or small dick, I believe most women appreciate the foreplay and stamina. But I prefer big dicks with foreplay and witty banter.

[jamestan1]

Originally Posted by junebaby

Maybe not such a good idea to get Mark to write my story. To clarify, I suggested he make them jealous by sleeping with someone else. Whether he does it or not, it's up to him.

His pickup lines definitely do not work on me.





Big dick or small dick, I believe most women appreciate the foreplay and stamina. But I prefer big dicks with foreplay and witty banter.

I agree. Foreplay is really important. It does make a woman feel loved. Of course with big dick is a plus point. But can't have the best of both worlds always.

[ozymandias]

[QUOTE=Shrouded;21667247]I took forever to finish up my mocha frappe, and we only headed to the MRT for dinner when it was almost 730pm.

Shrouded,

Its been a while since my last post and ordinarily I would not say anything except that I do disagree with June's evaluation (apologies in advance June). So lets begain, You need to answer in your own heart the following three questions.

1. Can there be great sex without love ?
2. Can there be love without sex ?
3. Can there be great sex and great love ?

The problem is that you have a surplus of great sex , well more sex than most readers have had in their lifetimes and fantasies combined which is why you are a more interesting drama than K drama.

You have answered 1) but have you answered 2 or 3, The problem is that love is inherently jealous and possessive. History poetry all point to the desire for exclusivity whether for the long run or the short run. There can be open relationships but they are usually defined by a seperation of body and heart. The body does the sex bit but the heart is mine alone. June's husband exhibiting jealousy is an attempt to posses and make her heart again exclusively hers even though the body has been shared .

You are bothered by Jasmine having other lovers , irrespective of whether she told you or not , it still remains jealousy which is primal and basic and that sort of thing eats away at you.

The question that you have to ask yourself , is what is love to you ? Do u love jasmine ? Love is a very individual thing, Charles had a princess but chose to love a women who looks like a horse. Neflix and B and J is part of love without sex but love is more than that ? Are you afraid to declare your love to Jasmine if you feel it or for that matter do you feel it ?

And for that matter for Jasmine leaving an abusive marriage, she might not feel herself worthy enough to be loved and all that sex is just looking for love in the wrong places.


Ozy

[sexcision]

Agree on the love and jealousy theory.
As mentioned countless times, communication is vital to an open relationship where both is open and make it clear that heart remains while body is shared and activities are made known.

I think what trouble Mark is that while feelings are shared and supposedly made clear, Action of jasmine says otherwise.

[Asakura]

considering the number of times he mentioned their size ever since they are introduced into the story....he definitely minds. or maybe he doesn't understand himself.
maybe if Jas n Darren hook up again, he'll know the answer?

he just needs to focus on the part where he can satisfy most women with it, as confidently as he say it to June

Originally Posted by jamestan1

I think u just mind u have a small dick, or small compared to the other two guys. But it's u who intro them to ur girls. Can't really fault them for loving or mentioning it.

[Penguin23]

Originally Posted by ozymandias

Shrouded,

Its been a while since my last post and ordinarily I would not say anything except that I do disagree with June's evaluation (apologies in advance June). So lets begain, You need to answer in your own heart the following three questions.

1. Can there be great sex without love ?
2. Can there be love without sex ?
3. Can there be great sex and great love ?

The problem is that you have a surplus of great sex , well more sex than most readers have had in their lifetimes and fantasies combined which is why you are a more interesting drama than K drama.

You have answered 1) but have you answered 2 or 3, The problem is that love is inherently jealous and possessive. History poetry all point to the desire for exclusivity whether for the long run or the short run. There can be open relationships but they are usually defined by a seperation of body and heart. The body does the sex bit but the heart is mine alone. June's husband exhibiting jealousy is an attempt to posses and make her heart again exclusively hers even though the body has been shared .

You are bothered by Jasmine having other lovers , irrespective of whether she told you or not , it still remains jealousy which is primal and basic and that sort of thing eats away at you.

The question that you have to ask yourself , is what is love to you ? Do u love jasmine ? Love is a very individual thing, Charles had a princess but chose to love a women who looks like a horse. Neflix and B and J is part of love without sex but love is more than that ? Are you afraid to declare your love to Jasmine if you feel it or for that matter do you feel it ?

And for that matter for Jasmine leaving an abusive marriage, she might not feel herself worthy enough to be loved and all that sex is just looking for love in the wrong places.


Ozy

I have posted similar thoughts elsewhere in this thread - my theory is that Shrouded is, as you may say living too much in the present to think much of the future.

A man who literally has to push away sex offers from multiple women, will never have sufficient space and time to ponder the existential questions you posed. Shrouded's cock is perpetually in use - nicely enveloped by the warm pussies who are eager to coax out one more orgasm out of his nearly empty balls. His metabolism must be working overtime to always replenish the high demand for more sperm, and his mind is blanked out from having many, many orgasms from multiple women secretly wishing that the next CIP will make them pregnant. We all know that feeling of Zen when our balls are empty and we feel sexstisfied, and in that mental state of mind these longer-term thoughts will never take priority. Shrouded's mind is perpetually in that state, and usually soon after his cock will once again be in a different pussy, balls being milked dry.

Given these circumstances, there is little chance that Shrouded can ever find the resolve to stick to just one woman, even though deep inside him he clearly feels pain, anguish and not a small amount of jealousy when he contemplates Jasmine being fucked senseless by other cock(s) during her unannounced overseas trip. What Shrouded really needs is an extended period of absence from all these women, but he simply cannot find the resolve to do so - since the next set of hands willing to fondle his cock is just round the corner.

Lest those folks reading my post think that I am just being salty, I am not - I feel sympathy for Shrouded, because deep inside he understands that this balls-always-empty feeling may sound damn great, an everyman's idea of paradise. The problem is that feeling of emptiness, when orgasm after orgasm are forced out of his already empty balls by women who are just using his cock for pleasure, and nothing more.

[ouzo18]

Bro EoS, where are you?? Bangkok??? Lol
No wonder you so quiet lately, must be busy with all your fb....hahaha
Just kidding

[sexcision]

Originally Posted by ouzo18

Bro EoS, where are you?? Bangkok??? Lol
No wonder you so quiet lately, must be busy with all your fb....hahaha
Just kidding

FBsssssssss lol

[Shrouded]

Tuesday morning I went to work with a massive migraine, but had no idea where it came from. I had slept well the night before after sending June home. I really didn't give much thought to the harmless flirting I did with her at the end of the night.

I wondered how valid her logic was though, to make Jasmine jealous in order for her to appreciate me more. It might not have been phrased that way, but I was pretty sure that was the intention. And to find a married woman, someone who couldn't have a proper relationship with me, wasn't that defeating the purpose of making Jasmine jealous? The perfect candidate would be someone who had the ability to take me away from Jasmine completely. Perhaps her married woman analogy was a little flawed, or perhaps she was secretly hinting that she wanted me to seduce her despite openly stating that size mattered.

But was Jasmine even the type who would get jealous easily? I didn't think so. Even when Rebecca showed some sort of interest in me, Jasmine's request was for me to fuck her hard and wipe that smirk off her face, though that might have been said in jest. Even the incident with Crystal, she was pretty nonchalant about it, and perhaps even facilitated the event a little too easily. It made me wonder if she was really interested in being with me only after her divorce was finalized.

To address some queries.

Great sex. Can there be great sex without love? Of course. But what exactly is great sex? I wouldn't term the sex I've been having as great. Yes it feels good, and I have an abundance of it with multiple partners of my choosing. But something is missing that would make it truly great. That of course would be love. For sex to be truly great I feel there should be an element of love in it, but I can't really say I know or understand what exactly love is. I thought I loved Isabelle. We were supposed to get married, but apparently I "loved" my job more. I don't know what I had with Ann, but it probably wasn't love. It was probably more of a longing to be desired by someone else that I assumed at the time she could and would provide, until the truth about her polygamy was revealed anyway. And with Jasmine, it was more of a familial comfort that came with getting close to someone, to share your hopes and thoughts with, someone to go home to. But that isn't love either is it?

I don't think it's easy to define, or to explain what love is. And everyone has a different understanding and expectation for love. Netflix and Ben & Jerry's is just something I'd do with Jasmine because she likes doing it, and I want her to be happy. But is that love? I don't think so. But maybe we all have different opinions on the topic. Maybe nobody truly can explain what love is.

Am I jealous that Jasmine may have other lovers? I guess I am. If she tells me about it then I can manage my expectations and reactions. Take Kate for example. Once she told me, it wasn't such a big of a deal. I guess I really only was affected by what happened with Darren that one time.

With Shirlyn is way different. I don't really care who she's seeing or fucking. And that probably is the difference. I get jealous over what Jasmine may be doing but am not bothered by what Shirlyn is doing. I don't know why there is a discrepancy there. Perhaps I don't really have strong feelings for Shirlyn, or in this case, is it "love" that I have for Jasmine?

Yes, there is the occasional feeling of emptiness, the physical pleasure is great but sometimes I do crave for something more to fill the void. Honestly, the feeling I get from Jasmine does that. But sometimes, I also feel that something isn't right, but I don't want to force her to tell me about it.

Rebecca caught me stoning at my desk when she came in.

R: Hungover?

Me: Just a migraine.

R: Due to alcohol? Bo jio.

Me: I really didn't drink last night. Unless you count coffee and coconut shake.

R: You look terrible.

Me: I do?

She called Kate over as soon as she stepped into the office.

R: He looks terrible right?

Kate looked at me.

K: Probably didn't sleep well. Over-exerted?

R: From what?

K: I saw him hanging out with a busty chick last night.

R: What the fuck?

Me: That's just a friend.

R: So now you fuck your friends?

Me: Not saying anything.

R: I keep jioing you and you reject me.

Me: I was really just hanging out with a friend. We weren't even drinking alcohol. We didn't have sex.

R: Ya right.

K: Maybe you're not busty enough. Haha.

R: Can't believe he's so shallow. Then go for Shirlyn lor! She's got the biggest boobs among all of us!

Just as she said that, Shirlyn walked into the office.

S: I heard my name.

R: Ya. We're just saying Mark should go after you since you have the biggest boobs here.

S: Err…

R: He's so shallow right? Going out with girls because of their chest size.

S: I don't know. You ask him la.

Shirlyn seemed to turn red and retreated into her office.

R: Hahaha! Don't know why she's so shy.

Me: Don't disturb her la.

R: You really like big breasted girls is it?

Me: No…

R: Then why are you protecting her? Hahaha.

Me: I'm not. Aren't we all a little too old for such juvenile teasing?

R: No? You're not fun at all.

Me: I don't need to this childish to have fun.

R: Prove it.

Me: I'll go drinking with you tonight.

R: What?

Me: I'll hang out with you tonight.

R: For real?

K: Wow. Is he trying to prove he's ok with your chest size? Haha!

Me: Nah, size doesn't matter. I'm free tonight and kind of bored.

R: You sure you don't want to hang out with Shirlyn? Her breasts are bigger. And if size doesn't matter, then Kate is a target too.

K: He's got things that I don't appreciate. I don't like sausage and eggs for breakfast. Or dinner for that matter.

Me: It's not the size la. But yeah, I'll hang out with you. And it's not as though we never hung out before.

R: That's not counted.

Me: Why not? I even sent you home.

R: Never mind. Make sure you don't play me out tonight.

Rebecca took out her phone and made a call.

R: Hello? Can I make an appointment for lunchtime?

Kate frowned at her.

K: What appointment is that? We have a lunch meeting later.

R: Oh shit. Never mind. You can attend without me, just make the decisions on my behalf. This appointment is more important.

K: What appointment?

R: Waxing.

She glanced at me and smirked.

K: Ah. Ok. I agree that's more important.

Me: Erm.

R: We're really going drinking right?

Me: I guess so. But I won't drink too much. Have to drive.

R: Ok. I'll drink then.

She smirked at me again. Kate smirked at me too.

As they went back to their desks, I received a message from Kate.

K: Remember what I told you about her. Otherwise, have fun?

Me: It's just hanging out. I'm not going to do anything.

K: Hanging out must be your new secret code for fucking around.

Me: It's not.

K: Lucky Jasmine is overseas.

Me: She's back tomorrow.

K: Is that why you're meeting others every single day?

Me: I'm not meeting them for sex.

K: With your weird relationship, you probably could and she wouldn't mind.

Me: I kind of figured that out already.

But I somehow wondered if this really was going to be the night I fulfilled Jasmine's wish of wiping the smirk off Rebecca's face.

[ouzo18]

Rebecca, Mark is cumming after you....lol
Will it be the night that Mark finally sextify Rebecca? No, I don't think so, I don't think Mark will fuck her. But I really hope i am wrong. Haha.

Faster continue please.

[junior_cannibal]

The good old virtue is true love forever is dead and long gone.
I meet a girl, like her look and appearance, fall in love, get married, have children, grow old, then one or both pass away.. Is this love?
Not necessary. A relationship may last a lifetime by starting with what we thought was love. Then get married, living together, have children, stay married and be responsible for the week being of the family, its the sense of responsibility that bond us.
When the kids grow up and out of the house, you could be in your 50s, 60s or even 70s,back to you and your wife. If the reason why you chose her remains as something you desire and appreciate, then you fall in love with her all over again, till one passes on.
Such things happen more in movies now.
Mark, you are not that old, but what you are doing now may seem great to others, especially the sex part, but have you thought about the future. Note too far away, let's say 3 years from now, you are still in the same state, then how?
At the rate you are using your cock, I ain't sure if you can last 3 more years with the kind of frequency. What if by then not that you choose to leave all the ladies behind, but each one of them have found their partner, bf or hubby, Jasmine included.
Take a break, like Jasmine, go somewhere, think about what you really want. You are not a dildo or vibrator, your existence is not just to make others happy.
My fear is, you don't even know what you really want.
P/s if I were you, I wouldn't even go out with Rebecca, to give her a good bonk won't stop the smirk. If all ladies who smirk need your bonk, then you will be very busy.
Also, it's only the ladies with no boobs will comment a man being shallow to like girls with bigger boobs. There ain't that many men who will sincerely like a woman who has a chest that's flatter than his, at least I have yet to know one.

[sexcision]

Seeking updates!

[Oldman13]

Update please. Looking forward to the stry

[Bigbluebird]

Mark is the village bicycle

That aside, I do hope you find actual happiness in relationship. The current ones you are in now, too damn toxic and unhealthy, despite the sex and fun. After every fuck, I am pretty sure you are empty inside, besides an emptied kkj.