Long Distance Tirak Relationship - Myth or Reality

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

I just came back to the forum after a long hiatus and under a different guise (not that many samsters knew me from the past; only a few prominent old-timers do).

Dunno why so many people flame you for your stories and what you're trying to do here. But I can see that bro bkkguy and bro TV are coming from totally different directions from yours. I think ppl just want to warn you not to live in fantasy.

From reading your posts and your writing style, I figure you for a well-educated guy, probably with executive or professional job. I don't know what your plans are for staying in LOS.

As for myself, I am married to an ex-$40 cat WL, and I live in LOS now on a WP visa and a well-paid professional/executive job.

So u think I know you?

Anyway, most of us have no problems with people who wish to marry WL. But "wish" and "want" is 2 different matters.

People who "wish", prefers to fantasize, dream and talk lots of crap, spending time unneccessarily on other things than working towards their dreams

People who "want", prefers to work hard towards their goals, using their actions to do the work rather than talk and make the job done. You belong to this category.

But I would like to ask u 2 questions.
1.If today you are living in singapore instead and her in thailand, do you think the relationship will sustain?

2.If today you are not holding a well-paid/professional job and yet staying in singapore, do u think the relationship will sustain, even though how much you love her?

SC

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by free

What u have described regarding the baan nok ger, perhaps maybe less of a problem for us, cos in most if not literally all aspects, my tirak looks, lives and behaves like a normal TG now. And also hold a ordinary job.

We are exploring together what we can do for the coming future, and we are taking it each step at a time, slowly perhaps but surely for sure. Hopefully over the next 6-9 months, things will fall in place for us... come what may. Not the easiest of routes to take, but we are both happy with what we have chosen together. Hope it will last and we are working hard to make it so.

Does she have "normal" TG friends, like office worker? From my experience, WL only associate with WL. Their best friends are all WL. They cannot relate to normal TG. Whaddaya expect? The profession is "life-changing", to say the least, and only birds of that kind of feather will flock together.

As for what to do, you need to get a job offer to work in LOS, or save some money and start a business. The former is hard unless you have some special skill or work experience that's not easily available in LOS. Based on what I can see from your writing skills, you can try for jobs that require English writing skills, like copywriting or translator or journalist/magazine writer. Thai ppl's English writing skills suck big time. But the job market is very tight 'cos it's so much cheaper to get a Thai for the job.

As for business, there's many small business you can do, like on-line gaming, garment or crafts export, or even open hair salon for your tirak.

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

So u think I know you?


But I would like to ask u 2 questions.
1.If today you are living in singapore instead and her in thailand, do you think the relationship will sustain?

2.If today you are not holding a well-paid/professional job and yet staying in singapore, do u think the relationship will sustain, even though how much you love her?

SC

Bro SC,

We may have met once or twice, I don't remember. But I think we will have common acquaintances amongst old time samsters

Regarding your questions:
I was in S'pore for almost 3 years after her ORD before I moved to LOS. Can sustain LDTR lah, but very pok gai because had to fly up to LOS every 2 weeks. But one thing for sure true - no money, cannot sustain. WL logic is: you must compensate me for my opportunity cost if you want me to leave the profession and become good girl. The best you can hope for is true love, but sustained by a good allowance.

So if I don't have my good job and good pay, you are right, the relationship cannot be sustained. If I'm still staying in S'pore without constant supervision, maybe I will go to GL to "tow jia", then maybe meet new tirak, then bye-bye old tirak?

But to be fair to my missus, the allowance I give her every month is small compared to what her other ex-WL friends are getting from their ang moh husbands or rich Thai supporters. She has "downgraded" a lot because of true love! Also, she has ex-WL friends who are getting even less than what I give her, but are happily married to local Thai or foreigner. It all depends on what each WL can be satisified with.

[Cat Man]

wah piang, sorry about my post #328. some of my replies actually kena embedded in bro bkkguy's quoted post.

still new to this interface lah. will try to catch up ASAP

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

As for what to do, you need to get a job offer to work in LOS, or save some money and start a business. The former is hard unless you have some special skill or work experience that's not easily available in LOS. Based on what I can see from your writing skills, you can try for jobs that require English writing skills, like copywriting or translator or journalist/magazine writer. Thai ppl's English writing skills suck big time. But the job market is very tight 'cos it's so much cheaper to get a Thai for the job.

great observation! haha... but don't use bombastic words and beat around the bushes too much because the Thai readers here will have a hard time trying to understand. Mee arai phood throng throng dee kwaa..

Originally Posted by Cat Man

As for business, there's many small business you can do, like on-line gaming, garment or crafts export, or even open hair salon for your tirak.

yes, small bussiness.. easy to set up... making it work is another thing.

Q: 1 question for u... how do u cope with ur overly-suspicious gf (before marriage) who'll call u at least every 1 hour during work? hehehe

[free]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

Does she have "normal" TG friends, like office worker? From my experience, WL only associate with WL. Their best friends are all WL. They cannot relate to normal TG. Whaddaya expect? The profession is "life-changing", to say the least, and only birds of that kind of feather will flock together.

As for what to do, you need to get a job offer to work in LOS, or save some money and start a business. The former is hard unless you have some special skill or work experience that's not easily available in LOS. Based on what I can see from your writing skills, you can try for jobs that require English writing skills, like copywriting or translator or journalist/magazine writer. Thai ppl's English writing skills suck big time. But the job market is very tight 'cos it's so much cheaper to get a Thai for the job.

As for business, there's many small business you can do, like on-line gaming, garment or crafts export, or even open hair salon for your tirak.

yes, she has cut off almost all her old friends, except for the 2 whom I know (greng jai and nice ppl - one also retired & married; one in Bahrain). Now most of those she mixes with are her "normal" work collegues as well as the colleagues of her sister. On the other hand, she seldom go out these days, and if she does usually with either one or both of her sisters,

We are exploring the several opportunities opening up to us, and we do have a preference for something we can do together.

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by singrakthai

great observation! haha... but don't use bombastic words and beat around the bushes too much because the Thai readers here will have a hard time trying to understand. Mee arai phood throng throng dee kwaa..


yes, small bussiness.. easy to set up... making it work is another thing.

Q: 1 question for u... how do u cope with ur overly-suspicious gf (before marriage) who'll call u at least every 1 hour during work? hehehe

roo liao, krap, pee. kor thord na krap. pom chuan kao pai samak ngan bpen lam reu kian kosana reu pen nak khao. dtae khooy gap khon tii kian paasaa angrit dee dee, dtong chai kam leuk leuk lae su-pap gwaa, mai chai ler?

she didn't call me every hour, but I have to report sitrep at least 3 times per day. if report late, kena jia lat jia lat

[Cat Man]

Originally Posted by free

yes, she has cut off almost all her old friends, except for the 2 whom I know (greng jai and nice ppl - one also retired & married; one in Bahrain). Now most of those she mixes with are her "normal" work collegues as well as the colleagues of her sister. On the other hand, she seldom go out these days, and if she does usually with either one or both of her sisters,

Sorry if you have already answered this question in one of your posts already, but can I just ask how long she has been a WL?

[Cat Man]

anyways, can't keep up with you guys' posts 'cos I'm still under moderation

how long is this going to last? who is the moderator? the 'under moderation' status auto-off or discretionary? read that the Boss said he is not moderator, so is it bro TV? chuay chuay noy dai mai krap??

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

Regarding your questions:
I was in S'pore for almost 3 years after her ORD before I moved to LOS. Can sustain LDTR lah, but very pok gai because had to fly up to LOS every 2 weeks. But one thing for sure true - no money, cannot sustain. WL logic is: you must compensate me for my opportunity cost if you want me to leave the profession and become good girl. The best you can hope for is true love, but sustained by a good allowance.

So if I don't have my good job and good pay, you are right, the relationship cannot be sustained. If I'm still staying in S'pore without constant supervision, maybe I will go to GL to "tow jia", then maybe meet new tirak, then bye-bye old tirak?

But to be fair to my missus, the allowance I give her every month is small compared to what her other ex-WL friends are getting from their ang moh husbands or rich Thai supporters. She has "downgraded" a lot because of true love! Also, she has ex-WL friends who are getting even less than what I give her, but are happily married to local Thai or foreigner. It all depends on what each WL can be satisified with.

Don't worry, I wouldn't chak you. Because I look at reality replies and not fantasy replies. Those people who get things done already then come post internet and share, deserved a clap at the very least. However, there are many others out here which I think they talk more than they do. Things not done and yet have so many plans which have not even started.

Some people plan quietly and carry out their plans. While some plan out loud and yet never carry out.

So the moral behind this post. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS

SC

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by free

yes, she has cut off almost all her old friends, except for the 2 whom I know (greng jai and nice ppl - one also retired & married; one in Bahrain). Now most of those she mixes with are her "normal" work collegues as well as the colleagues of her sister. On the other hand, she seldom go out these days, and if she does usually with either one or both of her sisters,

We are exploring the several opportunities opening up to us, and we do have a preference for something we can do together.

The other one in Bahrain doing what?

No disrespect to you Free, I can only say that you said earlier for the past 8 months you have not seen her, what she tell you, how much value do you think its worth?

SC

[bkkguy]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

err..are you saying they accept you better if they think you have a lot of money? I know thais are status conscious, but I often wonder where to draw the line. I'm worried if I retire to the countryside showing that I am a rich foreigner, ppl will either rob me or come borrow money from me. Just last week I went to visit my in-laws at the moobaan with my missus and during TCSS session with the neighbours, one guy openly asked me how much I earn. Lucky my missus siam the question by saying "not much, just enough to get by sabai sabai".

Like i mentioned earlier on, it never wrong to try to act 'humble' infront of thai ppls.Those who like to act 'rich' will usually die first.

Originally Posted by Cat Man

As for PR, I still have 1 more year to go before I hit 3 years. from your experience, are there a lot of s'poreans applying for PR each year? Under the regulations, I think the quota is still 100 approvals per nationality per year. I wonder whether there are so many s'poreans applying each year?

As far as I know, not many s'poreons apply for thai PR.
I applied my Thai PR 1 yr ago and the annoucement will be made known to me soon (Dec 2005).

In order to apply for PR ,you needed to fulfill the 3 yrs WP plus taxes. If you have children with your present thai wife, you stand a even better chance.
You will be asked 10 questions on general knowledge about thai cultures.
Like when is the King birthday,what is car called in thai and what kind of flower do the queen like... etc
At the end of the PR interview, you need to present yourself (in thai ) on why they should give you the thai PR. All these will be filmed in sony video camera.You can say all the bulls and shits you want during the interview,just remember to 'wai' and say 'krap' every now and then.

Overall, the whole procedure is quite simple. Just follow all the rules stated in the application will do, you will on your way to be a thai PR.

If you want to go further than this, like getting a thai citizenship, you need to renew your PR 2X or 10yrs whichever come first.By then , who need a thai citzenship.Where as a thai PR is good enough for you to stay endlessly in thailand.



Choke dee , krap!

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

The other one in Bahrain doing what?

No disrespect to you Free, I can only say that you said earlier for the past 8 months you have not seen her, what she tell you, how much value do you think its worth?

SC

What else is a TG likely to do in Bahrain? Still got to ask meh? Dun help she got a husband who dun work and a young daugher & aged parents to feed. No excuses, cos this one also want to have a life of "haves" and not willing to suffer hardship. I have no issues with her as long as she knows how to be greng jai and dun try to chio my tirak into joining her. She tried once when times were really for us both and kenaed "hammered" by my tirak and since then, has never done it again. Since she now respects my tirak's wish to lead a normal life, I dun see a need to stop their friendship. She's actually a rather nice ger really - pretty and shapely too, 555.z

End of the day, SC, trust is 2-way. My tirak has got to trust me as much as I got to trust her. We are comfortable with that and are glad the r/s still grows despite the distance/. Me and me alone will either reap the fruits of the trust I placed in her (or bear the brunt) and vice versa. And only the 2 of us know where we stand in each other's lives today.

Perhaps what we look for in a r/s is a bit different than what u would want. Different strokes for different folks. For some r/s, its out of sight out of mind, for others, absence makes the heart grows fonder. Anyway, when the time comes, we will know whethere we have made the right decision today.

[DNAT]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS
SC

事 在 人 为

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by Cat Man

roo liao, krap, pee. kor thord na krap. pom chuan kao pai samak ngan bpen lam reu kian kosana reu pen nak khao. dtae khooy gap khon tii kian paasaa angrit dee dee, dtong chai kam leuk leuk lae su-pap gwaa, mai chai ler?

Khun khon meow nah sorn sarn... yang yoo moderation... hehehe.. top chaar..

Phom ayu yang mai tueng sarn sip pee loey! Khun gor yoo tee nee nan kwaa, phom khit waa riak khun pen pee dee kwaa.... haha...
Chai, dtong chai kam leuk leuk tae gor dtong mee khon khao jai dai, chai mai krup? hahaha... phood len.. dtae jing jing tha thaam pen Khun Aacharn gor mai dai ngoen yok thao rai.... Khun Khon Meow mee tod (lobang) dai nae-nam mai, krup? hehehe

Originally Posted by Cat Man

he didn't call me every hour, but I have to report sitrep at least 3 times per day. if report late, kena jia lat jia lat

I asked this question because this is very normal behaviour for Thai women.. ESPECIALLY ex-WL... lets face it... if ur current gf is ex-WL, she knows u have the habit of visiting prostitutions... my friend's ex-WL gf calls him every minute... don't think they'll last cos now he'd jus been posted to work in Thailand and he'll be exposed to even more "qualified", "decent", beautiful Thai women...

Thanks for sharing.

cheers