woes of a tirak

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

bro, thanx for ur testimony.. u've just proven my pt. u've been the life-changing tirak for her.. (at least at the spur of the moment) she was willing to simmer down, bcos u're there to appease matters. had it been some other joker ie: SM.. both the 2 of them would've mounted the loti-chia hand-in-hand, handcuffed like a lawfully wedded couple in "rolex" courtesy of our SPF.

it takes a bigger heart to accomodate such issues. nt saying that u must be the 1 to cause her to mend her ways, bt i think its credible effort on ur part for now. kudos to u bro... kindness be-gets kindness. jai yen yen na...

Actually I preferred the police to come instead. Then she will be taught a lesson. But I know she need a lot of money for her family, so had to "help" by bringing her away from the disco.

And for me, I don't want be with her anymore because she is too kwailan liao. To armed with the burden to change her I mai sabai jai. I take a quote from Bangkok Master. I find the burden too heavy for me to try and change such a kwailan thai girl.

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[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Actually I preferred the police to come instead. Then she will be taught a lesson. But I know she need a lot of money for her family, so had to "help" by bringing her away from the disco.

And for me, I don't want be with her anymore because she is too kwailan liao. To armed with the burden to change her I mai sabai jai. I take a quote from Bangkok Master. I find the burden too heavy for me to try and change such a kwailan thai girl.

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put it this way, by walking out.. there's few possibilities, she'd either reproach herself, cos she's by default in this line n self-esteem will lower her more for wat she is.. n not who she is/wanna improve to become.

she could be awaken to realise that there's still hope out there cos there's a guy who'd care n pull her back to safety when situations arise. may eventually mend her ways to bcome a better puying.

or not, she could just resign to 1 statement: "all puchai r the same, got hole will enter... get tired of this hole will go find another hole"

regardless of outcome, as long as u feel its the right thing to do... i'm happy for u. though it'd be nice for u to maintain contact n councel her once in a while when u decide to rtf.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

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nevertheless, cross-referencing of the woman/female gender vs the KC traps of the WL/FL etc.. helps to dispell the common misconception of them in this flesh trade. its afterall still an occupation n nothing's making them change who they r.. so with ample time spent n $ invested in 1... he should know by now the predicaments that put them here, n for fate to unite the 2 lost souls.

sad to say, it has to be in the less desired place as per deemed in the eyes of the screwed/selfish society, bt many choose for the sake of 'face'/reputation to deny himself the prospects of bliss & happiness, for the other party (girl) would perhaps be more than appreciative for him who demonstrates love, care & kindness... n devote her lifetime of love n gratitude towards his magnanimousity.
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Hello friend, I think you are treading on the fringe. I agree with thaivisitor and I quote from him
'When you first started the thread, you're talking about being the tirak of a WL, but as the thread progresses, it goes deeper and now its about Thai girls in general.'

For any healthy discussion/sharing/debate etc, there has to be a context/scope for discussion et al. In this instance, we are talking about a relationship with a WL. We should not get the TG in general into the picture. Why?

For a start, those who opt or advocate a long term relationship with a WL are in the minority. I believe you would agree with me on this.

Additionally, to lump typical TG with WL and talk in general terms would be an injustice and insult to them. It's akin to speaking in broad terms and lumping our womanfolks with the WL in Geylang. That will not go down well with the majority, would it?

Let's just get on with the original theme and share whatever perspectives each side has to offer.

hoodlum

[zunbo]

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master

I can say that no matter how unmaterialistic your tirak or gf is there is always a burden to carry and for me the burden became far too heavy for me to carry on. I had no regrets spending time and $ here as the experience taught me to see things better in future, rather than living for a fantasy or miracle to happen.

Hmmm..... Why somehow i feel i can identify with u..sometimes i wonder how can i learn to 'push' the right button to make her fully understand that i sincerely wants to know her.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

...'When you first started the thread, you're talking about being the tirak of a WL, but as the thread progresses, it goes deeper and now its about Thai girls in general.'

For any healthy discussion/sharing/debate etc, there has to be a context/scope for discussion et al. In this instance, we are talking about a relationship with a WL. We should not get the TG in general into the picture. Why?

...Additionally, to lump typical TG with WL and talk in general terms would be an injustice and insult to them. It's akin to speaking in broad terms and lumping our womanfolks with the WL in Geylang. That will not go down well with the majority, would it?...

bro, appreciate ur concerns about crossing the fine line, n i do understand the implications that u pressume would be deemed unfair to the general female gender as well as the TG populace. i have to clarify 1 thing, that is WL/FL eventually r still TG deep down, n i would be bold enough to differ from the majority who's narrow minded enough to deal that sort of insult as to only appreciating the WL/FL for wat she is n who she is.

take away the number tags, take away the OKTs, they're no different from service orientated flight attendants, customer service officers, models on the runway, artistes in the performing industry etc. the only unfortunate thing is that their in the flesh trade n the customer satisfactions become their jobscope. there's no OT rate, no annual incentives, no performance bonus, no long service award either.... on a gd day, they'd probably get some big tippers, sponsored meals from tirak, few love gifts from aspiring tiraks etc. the rest of the time, its pretty much regimental rules, n all they ever get is being confined in the hse, despite having the time of the month. in return, they get rated, some over rated or underated, then there's a long chain of readers queueing to try.. then disappointed ones will come n post more slams n flames, which affects the gal's biz.

its true that my primary intent was along the lines of tirakship, bt its quite inevitable to swing towards justifying n zeroing the already warped mindsets of others, so as to have better posts n correspondences in this thread. without knowing n understanding the TG within the WL/FL... wats there to talk about tirakship when each n every post is probably nothing new... n is no less just a sad fuck doing a FR on his actions w the gal.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by zunbo

Hmmm..... Why somehow i feel i can identify with u..sometimes i wonder how can i learn to 'push' the right button to make her fully understand that i sincerely wants to know her.

bro, just be urself... alot of ppl here got ego too big for their heads, boast n think they pushing the right buttons when in fact its just their self scripted/directed fantasy.

as i said b4, its nt easy for a WL to believe that a cheongster is only bonking & throwing in the true feelings for her, just as most tirak wannabe would be thinking the exact vice-versa. the only way is by your actions... where sincerity & the all important 101% counts. $ can buy her everything under the sun, if rich enough maybe can even buy the moon back if technology allows it (but wat gd is it or wat worth is there if its something she didnt really need). nevertheless, its the priceless efforts, the invaluable sweat n blood that supercedes wat $ can buy with ease.

dont think so much of urself as her walking ATM, if she's not comfortable about ur presence & companionship.. she would've been going out w any other bloke/joker instead. when u're out, pay attention at some of the things she need... as opposed to wat she wants. of cos not asking u to stupidly buy toiletries for her la, she could easily afford it herself (though it would be hilarious enuff to touch her, or to remember u for nuts).

if wanna impress her.. go all out attack... dun try u wont know. just remember 1 thing: expect the worst & hope for the best. player dont take pot shots at goal, wouldnt know that he can score goals

chok-dee~!

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

How do you think about 1 that is as combative as the siam fighting fish? Fighting with girls from her house? Fighting in disco with other customers till the bouncer have to throw her out? Her anger cannot be appeased and she even wanted to kill her boss in GL? Her hobby is to pick up fights and find quarrels. And she is an alcoholic.
If not for me, the day when she fought at the disco, she would now be back in thailand rather than still in geylang working.
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WOW! Ur gal damn fierce! Lawang na krup.. I think she's the kind who won't hesitate to cut off ur joo if u unfaithful to her... hehe... i think u all know cutting off joo is very common practise in Thailand. Nowadays after cutting, they immediately flush it down the toilet so u won't have chance to sew it back. Talk about jai dum.. hehe

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

'When you first started the thread, you're talking about being the tirak of a WL, but as the thread progresses, it goes deeper and now its about Thai girls in general.'

Additionally, to lump typical TG with WL and talk in general terms would be an injustice and insult to them. It's akin to speaking in broad terms and lumping our womanfolks with the WL in Geylang. That will not go down well with the majority, would it?
hoodlum

There is a start to everything, like the WLs, they are not born a WL, likewise, tens years down the road, they might not be continue to be WL, so I guess even discussion on a general TGs is acceptable here. Matter of fact, it does give us a better understanding of the difference of a normal TGs, current WLs and ex WLS. As all agreed, we are here to share our woes and things that went thru our journey with a TG, hence in any aspect but pertaining to the TGs shall be deem reasonable and not a disrespect or digress to the TGs tirakship issues.

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

bro, appreciate ur concerns about crossing the fine line, n i do understand the implications that u pressume would be deemed unfair to the general female gender as well as the TG populace. i have to clarify 1 thing, that is WL/FL eventually r still TG deep down, n i would be bold enough to differ from the majority who's narrow minded enough to deal that sort of insult as to only appreciating the WL/FL for wat she is n who she is.

I'm not sure that the WL is still TG deep down (just conjesturing as I'm no authority on TG) as they have taken a route out of circumstances they may/may not have chosen. What I believe is that they have deviated from the societal norms and in the process, they may have been infused with some behavioral traits that may not be customary TG norms. It's not that the majority that are often narrow minded. I think it is their rejection of something that's against societal norm. That's perfectly justifable because they are, well, the majority.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

take away the number tags, take away the OKTs, they're no different from service orientated flight attendants, customer service officers, models on the runway, artistes in the performing industry etc. the only unfortunate thing is that their in the flesh trade n the customer satisfactions become their jobscope. there's no OT rate, no annual incentives, no performance bonus, no long service award either.... on a gd day, they'd probably get some big tippers, sponsored meals from tirak, few love gifts from aspiring tiraks etc. the rest of the time, its pretty much regimental rules, n all they ever get is being confined in the hse, despite having the time of the month. in return, they get rated, some over rated or underated, then there's a long chain of readers queueing to try.. then disappointed ones will come n post more slams n flames, which affects the gal's biz.

Hold your horse bru. Now you are walking the occupational fringe. Your argument and occupational comparison is to say the least porous. Again in the context, WL is legally not an occupation, at least in most countries. To say flight Attendants are no more than... you are talking Flight Attendants in general, across all borders.

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

its true that my primary intent was along the lines of tirakship, bt its quite inevitable to swing towards justifying n zeroing the already warped mindsets of others, so as to have better posts n correspondences in this thread. without knowing n understanding the TG within the WL/FL... wats there to talk about tirakship when each n every post is probably nothing new... n is no less just a sad fuck doing a FR on his actions w the gal.

There are lots of silly asses around. You can't eliminate them all like Halo2. IMO, there should not be any tirakship in the 1st instance if they know the basics of commercial sex and what it entails.
Rule #1 : Transaction only
Rule #2 : Transaction only ... you get the drift

An analogy. If I say drugs is harmful. Most will listen without venturing into the trial for confirmation. As for tirakship, it still boggles me. I'm not against WL... in a way I sympathise with their plights. But to foster a long-term relationship which may/may not lead to happiness and bliss, that's a different ball game altogether.

Cheers
hoodlum

[hoodlum]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

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As all agreed, we are here to share our woes and things that went thru our journey with a TG, hence in any aspect but pertaining to the TGs shall be deem reasonable and not a disrespect or digress to the TGs tirakship issues.

How are you bru? Dejavu send his regards. Think his thread kena frozen.

hoodlum

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by hoodlum

How are you bru? Dejavu send his regards. Think his thread kena frozen.
hoodlum

Oh, thanks. Actually wanna ask you about him. Wonder how is he doing as well as I dont see him around anymore. Basket, still remember those time like chasing HK serial like that waiting for the next episodes.

Back to this WL/TG issue, I know where you coming from. I thik it is a never ending debate but a good matter to discuss about. From here I can see and learn different perspective of the matter. WLs retired from scene will lead a better life or worst then before cos all money splurge or the tirak will support her to regain a normal life and repesct as well? As an audience, I prefer a happy ending.

[OceanEleven]

Originally Posted by singrakthai

WOW! Ur gal damn fierce! Lawang na krup.. I think she's the kind who won't hesitate to cut off ur joo if u unfaithful to her... hehe... i think u all know cutting off joo is very common practise in Thailand. Nowadays after cutting, they immediately flush it down the toilet so u won't have chance to sew it back. Talk about jai dum.. hehe

Like kindess begets kindness, you jao chu and she take the course of action only. The difference here is does your actions justfied for such severe consequences?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by singrakthai

WOW! Ur gal damn fierce! Lawang na krup.. I think she's the kind who won't hesitate to cut off ur joo if u unfaithful to her... hehe... i think u all know cutting off joo is very common practise in Thailand. Nowadays after cutting, they immediately flush it down the toilet so u won't have chance to sew it back. Talk about jai dum.. hehe

That day I din't want to go to the disco as she kept asking me. But think think for a while, sure kenna fight with her character when she get drunk. So I went. True enough, she got into a fight. 3 bouncers had to throw her out and her friends had to grab her and tame her. The bouncers were ready to call in the police as at the entrance she still don't want to sua. Still continued taunting them for fight. In the end, me and her friends had to throw her into my car. Guess what, the fighting continued in my car till the alcohol went off. Her friends all kenna bruises. Her boss lucky, no need to go police station and bail her out. I knew she needed her job in GL to give money to her family. If not for this reason, I would not even want to go there and get her out. Because if the police were called in, bye bye to her tenure in GL.

Cut off my joo? Not a chance, because I know how to climb out n not persist on a relationship that makes me mai sabai jai.

Yuu Khun Diaw gor Sabai Mak Na.

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[naemlo]

Originally Posted by OceanEleven

I prefer a happy ending.

Talk abt happy ending, wat abt u??

[singrakthai]

Originally Posted by suteerak1099

i have to clarify 1 thing, that is WL/FL eventually r still TG deep down, n i would be bold enough to differ from the majority who's narrow minded enough to deal that sort of insult as to only appreciating the WL/FL for wat she is n who she is.
take away the number tags, take away the OKTs, they're no different from service orientated flight attendants, customer service officers, models on the runway, artistes in the performing industry etc.

dude, i think u're trying too hard to defend the WLs. I don't really know ur full agenda and ur WHOLE story (cos ur too long winded.. sorry).. but ur perspective of WL/FL are same as flight attendants, customer service offciers, models, blah blah blah are total bull.... then why don't those in the NORMAL lines choose to become WL/FL instead? Easy job wat, just lay there open legs.. big money... please lah u're insulting the other professions. I'm doing sales, that means i'm not better than a whore too? I might as well go sell my backside? But truth is, i have my interigty and i'm not willing to let any tom dick harry have a go at my ass....
please don't link normal Thai lady with a Thai WL/FL.... try this here in Thailand and see whats the reaction u get.
Relationship with a Thai WL and a NORMAL Thai lady is total different ball game! Don't confuse!