ord from geylang , can come back sg ?

[vmtech]

not sure about this just wanna clarify

after ORD have to wait 2 yrs or 3yrs b4 they can come back to sg on social visit?

im messedup on the time period...
hope someone clears my doubt

what are e exact tings i need to know and do to bring her over for social visit ?
she already 2 yrs nv step into SG and yes she was under 21 when she worked 2yrs back, so was a forged pp like many others.
what does she have to do now tt she has a legit international passport?

just wish to know all so can prepare..

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by vmtech

not sure about this just wanna clarify

after ORD have to wait 2 yrs or 3yrs b4 they can come back to sg on social visit?

im messedup on the time period...
hope someone clears my doubt

what are e exact tings i need to know and do to bring her over for social visit ?
she already 2 yrs nv step into SG and yes she was under 21 when she worked 2yrs back, so was a forged pp like many others.
what does she have to do now tt she has a legit international passport?

just wish to know all so can prepare..

Bro,
she used a forged passport to work in Cat40 because she is underaged. If now she uses a legit international passport, she can come to SG. But the moment if officer at immigration suspects her and ask to check her thumbprints, she will be arrested.

Not trying to scare you but its the truth. She already has 10 thumbprints taken and if she uses her real passport now, immigration will know she used a fake passport before.

SC

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Bro,
she used a forged passport to work in Cat40 because she is underaged. If now she uses a legit international passport, she can come to SG. But the moment if officer at immigration suspects her and ask to check her thumbprints, she will be arrested.

Not trying to scare you but its the truth. She already has 10 thumbprints taken and if she uses her real passport now, immigration will know she used a fake passport before.

SC

but what about the declaration on whether shes been to SG b4, be honest ?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by vmtech

but what about the declaration on whether shes been to SG b4, be honest ?

Bro, are you mad?

U mean with her legit passport now coming to SG, you want her to go and declare to ICA that previously she came and work Cat40 using a fake passport?

Prev, she used a fake passport to work in Cat40, that is already wrong. She had her thumbprints taken.

Now, if she used a legit passport to come SG for social visit is no problem, because ICA don't know she is Cat40 because they did not take her thumbprints and countercheck. But if in the event that she is suspected by any officers and told to take her thumbprints, she will be arrested.

It's just like overstayers.
1st time they use fake passport come in and overstayed, got caught and got thumbprints taken. Charge is only overstay.

2nd time they use their real name passport and come in SG. You think will they say they got caught before? If they say that, means previously they admitted they use fake passport because the prev passport and the current passport they using is diff name.

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Bro, are you mad?

U mean with her legit passport now coming to SG, you want her to go and declare to ICA that previously she came and work Cat40 using a fake passport?

Prev, she used a fake passport to work in Cat40, that is already wrong. She had her thumbprints taken.

Now, if she used a legit passport to come SG for social visit is no problem, because ICA don't know she is Cat40 because they did not take her thumbprints and countercheck. But if in the event that she is suspected by any officers and told to take her thumbprints, she will be arrested.

It's just like overstayers.
1st time they use fake passport come in and overstayed, got caught and got thumbprints taken. Charge is only overstay.

2nd time they use their real name passport and come in SG. You think will they say they got caught before? If they say that, means previously they admitted they use fake passport because the prev passport and the current passport they using is diff name.

sorry bro, i think i put my msg across wrongly.
i meant to ask, if she was asked if she ever been to Singapore previously, should she be saying yes or no? since she'll be using a new legit pp tt has no records of her SG stamp?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by vmtech

sorry bro, i think i put my msg across wrongly.
i meant to ask, if she was asked if she ever been to Singapore previously, should she be saying yes or no? since she'll be using a new legit pp tt has no records of her SG stamp?

The problem is if she was asked if she ever been to SG previously and she answered

1) NO
and immigration take her thumbprints realised she is Cat40 before and used a different passport to work in SG previously. She can be caught.

2) YES
and immigration take her thumbprints realised she is Cat40 before and used a different passport to work in SG previously.

The issue here is not because she cannot come but because of the fact that she used a fake passport to work in cat40 before.

however if she used back the same old passport( the one that she used to work in cat40) to come back on social visit (since she has not been back for 2 years), I don't see why they can arrest her since she has never used 2 different passports. If immigration asked her, she has to admit she has been here on Cat40 before.

Hope u catch what I am trying to say here.
SC

[Malaysian Datuk]

Originally Posted by vmtech

but what about the declaration on whether shes been to SG b4, be honest ?

Honesty is not the best policy in this case....

[vmtech]

crikey. now her fake PP is already gone and lost. -_-
a friend of hers, same situation, age actually went to SG to visit her bf just few months after ORD. she managed to make it thou.. now another qn

NORMALLY what is the time period WLs have to stay away from SG b4 they can come back for social visit?????

[Malaysian Datuk]

Originally Posted by vmtech

crikey. now her fake PP is already gone and lost. -_-
a friend of hers, same situation, age actually went to SG to visit her bf just few months after ORD. she managed to make it thou.. now another qn

NORMALLY what is the time period WLs have to stay away from SG b4 they can come back for social visit?????

AFAIK they would have been told by AV during the debrief when they ROD....last time was supposed to be forever then later came to know of some 3/5 years cases.....

[The_Unrepentant]

Originally Posted by vmtech

but what about the declaration on whether shes been to SG b4, be honest ?

u will be the next washington when nathan come down.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by vmtech

crikey. now her fake PP is already gone and lost. -_-
a friend of hers, same situation, age actually went to SG to visit her bf just few months after ORD. she managed to make it thou.. now another qn

NORMALLY what is the time period WLs have to stay away from SG b4 they can come back for social visit?????

There is a reason why when filling in the embarkation card, there is a section where it states

"Have you ever used a passport with different name to enter Singapore?"

Some people may have legally changed their names, thats why they have this section for people to fill up. But in this case that we are seeing now, it could turn against them because by ticking NO, and in the event get caught, it is an offence in itself to give false declaration.

Unless she can make another passport with her old name that she used to come to SG to work in Cat40, I don't think its wise for her to use her legit passport to come in SG again.

Your gf's fren situation is because she is lucky and no one check. But in the event if something happen, not even you can save her out.

So think carefully every move before making a decision.

SC

[vmtech]

Originally Posted by Malaysian Datuk

AFAIK they would have been told by AV during the debrief when they ROD....last time was supposed to be forever then later came to know of some 3/5 years cases.....

that's what i was concerned to find out...
3 yrs or 5yrs.. a big differeance ...

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by vertikal

Is it true that the WL must be either 22 or 24(forgot 22 or 24 already) and above then can work in the houses? Those who are below that age uses a fake passport to enter Singapore..

there was a time when the minimum age cap was 21... but later raised to 22. no difference what age cap they set to be, even if they raised the limit to 25 or more... we'll never know who amongst them hold a genuine/falsified passport.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by vmtech

not sure about this just wanna clarify

after ORD have to wait 2 yrs or 3yrs b4 they can come back to sg on social visit?

im messedup on the time period...
hope someone clears my doubt

what are e exact tings i need to know and do to bring her over for social visit ?
she already 2 yrs nv step into SG and yes she was under 21 when she worked 2yrs back, so was a forged pp like many others.
what does she have to do now tt she has a legit international passport?

just wish to know all so can prepare..

time limit on return entry to sg is ambiguous. i knew of a few cases where the gals returned on social visitation as early as 6mths after ORD. so its perhaps all down to "luck" or the mood of the immigrations officer.

[suteerak1099]

Originally Posted by vmtech

crikey. now her fake PP is already gone and lost. -_-
a friend of hers, same situation, age actually went to SG to visit her bf just few months after ORD. she managed to make it thou.. now another qn

NORMALLY what is the time period WLs have to stay away from SG b4 they can come back for social visit?????

i think u're worrying over too many issues that will never have definate answers. in the 1st place, the immigrations officers dont normally do 100% screening of each & every thai gal. at the very least, they'd only seive out the suspicious ones when they question about their previous visits to sg.

some officers dont bother asking, they'd approve the entry, but shorten her intended period of visit. and its as simple as that. and they'd probably issue stern verbal warning "don't try to extend visitation, just be good & go back as advised".

you can also try writting to ICA, stating that you're her sponsor/guarantor for duration of visit. i believe there's some level of success for such applications, bcos u're required to put cash for deposit of assurance- money talks.