Price to pay for helping Matters of the Heart

[colins]

Originally Posted by longwinter

yea, agreed. Initially, when l step into commerical sex, the main purpose is to have fun, enjoy myself, satisfy my lust. l went all over to find nice good places with good services to cheong. l guess this is the intention of most bros when they just step into the commerical sex world rite?

but dont know why, as time passes, l find that l am not jus looking for jus a fark, l tink l harbour something more than this. l will tend to rtf and just look for the same gal if we can click and have the chemistry.

For me, my mindset had been changed to, l just like to find a gal that l can click, and can have those kind of chemistry with. It is no longer the kind of fark and go. Anyway after the gal which l am fond of, left. My cheonging habit totally died down.

Originally Posted by longwinter

Anyway guys, pardon me for the above naive and childish feelings l display.

Originally Posted by longwinter

haha, thanks for the console, bro. Even though, l do noe that the gfe and happiness is just short term, but sumhow in the heart, l still yearn for it. Maybe like wanting to have a short sweet memory to fill my heart and memory bah.

l think in every guy, there will always be gals they are fond of and can click well, and they will just wanted to do those sweet nice things for her without any obligations. Cos when u see her happy, u also will feel happy and good as well. opps, tink l getting out of pt at here liaos.

No bro, you are not getting out of point here, in fact I think you are spot on. The forum is full of bros of different age and different stage of life. When you are young, your thinking is still new and the flesh is still fresh. At your prime, this is instinctive. When we start to see life clearer, there are many things which we see that conflicts with our thinking, and thereafter we start to seek more than sex, we are seeking a comfort zone from our life. In short, we wanted to go back to what it once was when we were young, but minus the need to fulfil the body, so wah-lah we want more from the same piece of flesh which we can buy. We now want emotional fulfilment.

Of cos, this is the first step towards a KC trap. Girls who identify your needs can easily put you on an emotional entrapment becos they know that you NEED it. We rely on our emotional fulfilment more and more when we get into our adult life. These girls, after giving it to you, also make you rely on them. So in order to keep the love coming, a lot of us chose the easy way, just pay for it. Like heroine, we become addicted until we start to delude ourselves that it is what we live for. Then thats it, every dollar equals your ability to acquire love per minute. Life itself, becomes one big cycle of pain and relief, pain and relief.

[longwinter]

Originally Posted by colins

Of cos, this is the first step towards a KC trap. Girls who identify your needs can easily put you on an emotional entrapment becos they know that you NEED it. We rely on our emotional fulfilment more and more when we get into our adult life. These girls, after giving it to you, also make you rely on them. So in order to keep the love coming, a lot of us chose the easy way, just pay for it. Like heroine, we become addicted until we start to delude ourselves that it is what we live for. Then thats it, every dollar equals your ability to acquire love per minute. Life itself, becomes one big cycle of pain and relief, pain and relief.

yea, l agreed too. l find myself in a dangerous position also. But for me, l do instill this mindset in me that if the gal reacts strangely or show to me that she is more towards the $$$$ side, l will just back off. But such things are hard to say also, nothing is 100% guranteed also. Who noes l might meet a gal whose conning skills is just so up to the standard that l couldnt feel or spotted it.

After she left, the mood of going to play around machiam like totally dies down. Did cheong a bit, but not as much as l used to. l also quite surprised myself, even my close friend around me ask me y l never go cheong liao. Why no mood to play?? l think l noe the answer very well for myself, l guess ultimately l still never forget her, and still miss her. Sometime l will jus dial her singapore hp no to see if she is back. From wad l am doing, l do noe l yearn for her return. So far not yet. If she is back, l am sure to go back and see her.

But Best is that l hope she dont come back for good bah.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Like as always, everyone has their reasons for going for a commercial bonk.
The old saying of bonk and go...is it really applicable?
To me....NO!
Why do people actually RTF?
Becos of something that happened there in the room that's not commercial that left a mark on the individual that he knew, only RTF can he realise or feel the same again.
This is the entree of KC.
Once this thing gets stronger, he's as good as KCed already, its to wat extent only.
If a man in a dark period of his life, he will embrace this feeling like the light shining into darkness.......
And once he THINKS he got this lite, he'll whatever he can to embrace it and not let go.....NO MATTER WAT!
This is a cycle that never ends.
Why do people spend to get burnt? A common thing people joke about others over kopi.....well......who wants to get burnt in the 1st place???????
Sad but true, the more you cheong, the more the chances u will FEEL for someone.......even me....i have met many that i felt for, but i made it a pure motto of mine, that i will KC and not get KCed......difficult..YES VERY but i always remind myself, it aint real...it aint real else i think i wud have died many times over.
The more i spend, the more i'll have no attachments to the gals...that's why i choose singers.......cos its like feeding animals in the zoo, throwing meat into their cage...........humans they still are, but honestly, i dun look at them that way, thus my own protection barrier.
But when someone comes along and dun wan money, i'll definately turn my alarms on....cos it has happened so many times...sigh........then my predator instincts will set it...cos the setting is right for KC traps to happen liao.
Many go into this sleeping. Pls open your eyes when you embark on this.
Remember why you went there to seek this release....else you wont be released but actually getting more screwed that previously.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by longwinter

Sometime l will jus dial her singapore hp no to see if she is back. From wad l am doing, l do noe l yearn for her return. So far not yet. If she is back, l am sure to go back and see her.

But Best is that l hope she dont come back for good bah.

Oh she'll be back dun worry.
Here's your situation.
You're standing at the edge of a well waiting for her cue to jump.
Am glad you know it yourself too, would be nice to know how you will manage to climb out from it once she commands you to "JUMP!"

[Wooden_Handle]

Bro LW ltnc...

I think and from my own experience, I believed it is matter of time that you will be on your feet and cheong again. AND of cos this time will be cheonging more wisely and to be serve instead of to serve.

Originally Posted by longwinter

After she left, the mood of going to play around machiam like totally dies down. Did cheong a bit, but not as much as l used to. l also quite surprised myself, even my close friend around me ask me y l never go cheong liao. Why no mood to play?? l think l noe the answer very well for myself, l guess ultimately l still never forget her, and still miss her. Sometime l will jus dial her singapore hp no to see if she is back. From wad l am doing, l do noe l yearn for her return. So far not yet. If she is back, l am sure to go back and see her.

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[colins]

Originally Posted by longwinter

After she left, the mood of going to play around machiam like totally dies down. Did cheong a bit, but not as much as l used to. l also quite surprised myself, even my close friend around me ask me y l never go cheong liao. Why no mood to play?? l think l noe the answer very well for myself, l guess ultimately l still never forget her, and still miss her. Sometime l will jus dial her singapore hp no to see if she is back. From wad l am doing, l do noe l yearn for her return. So far not yet. If she is back, l am sure to go back and see her.

But Best is that l hope she dont come back for good bah.

上的山多终遇虎...bro longwinter your situation also quite worrying, hope you haven't really spent too much. Well hope you can live thru it if she comes back.

[ekemono]

Originally Posted by longwinter

Sometime l will jus dial her singapore hp no to see if she is back. From wad l am doing, l do noe l yearn for her return. So far not yet. If she is back, l am sure to go back and see her.

I did that before too. Tried a few times dialling her SG nos. then one fine day she called me from China. I was at JC having a good time and her call took me by surprise. One would have assume the joyful and chatty conversation but actually, I dun have anything to talk to her. So it was lip service for the next few mins. Hmmmm, maybe she is looking for someone to sponser her trip here. Never called me since and I also didn't note down her China number.

[Fatjumbo]

Originally Posted by colins

Of cos, this is the first step towards a KC trap. Girls who identify your needs can easily put you on an emotional entrapment becos they know that you NEED it. We rely on our emotional fulfilment more and more when we get into our adult life. These girls, after giving it to you, also make you rely on them. So in order to keep the love coming, a lot of us chose the easy way, just pay for it. Like heroine, we become addicted until we start to delude ourselves that it is what we live for. Then thats it, every dollar equals your ability to acquire love per minute. Life itself, becomes one big cycle of pain and relief, pain and relief.

Sorry bro can someone pls kindly explain what's KC means ?? Cannot seem to locate the meaning of it and it's been constantly being mentioned. Pardon my ignorant. Thanks in advance for the explanation.

You are right bro, most of us just pay for it. But sometimes FOC ones come in a way or another. I have encountered tat lately. I don't think it's a blessing too in the long run. wish me luck.

[DTCEPL]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

Sorry bro can someone pls kindly explain what's KC means ??

KC = Kum Cheng, in hockien

KC = Gan Qing, in mandarin

and NOT KAR CHNG

Meaning kena entrapped in a Man-Woman relationship

[Fatjumbo]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

KC = Kum Cheng, in hockien

KC = Gan Qing, in mandarin

and NOT KAR CHNG

Meaning kena entrapped in a Man-Woman relationship

Thanks bro, for the kind explanation.

Indeed this KC trap is real and powerful...majiam kanna Gong Tao like tat. Best I guess is for bros ( including myself ) to go sauna / spa more often to wash away the charm cast by the PRC KTV gals.

Problem here is how to identify, test whether my KTV gal is sincere and for real. Will a WL buy expensive gift for a man rather than hoping the man to buy for her ? For once I am confused !!! unless it's ""Fang Chang Xian Diao Ta Yu"" strategy.

Any advise for season bros here who have seen it all. Thanks

[warbird]

Originally Posted by colins

... The forum is full of bros of different age and different stage of life. When you are young, your thinking is still new and the flesh is still fresh. At your prime, this is instinctive. When we start to see life clearer, there are many things which we see that conflicts with our thinking, and thereafter we start to seek more than sex, we are seeking a comfort zone from our life. In short, we wanted to go back to what it once was when we were young, but minus the need to fulfil the body, so wah-lah we want more from the same piece of flesh which we can buy. We now want emotional fulfilment.

Of cos, this is the first step towards a KC trap. Girls who identify your needs can easily put you on an emotional entrapment becos they know that you NEED it. We rely on our emotional fulfilment more and more when we get into our adult life. These girls, after giving it to you, also make you rely on them. So in order to keep the love coming, a lot of us chose the easy way, just pay for it. Like heroine, we become addicted until we start to delude ourselves that it is what we live for. Then thats it, every dollar equals your ability to acquire love per minute. Life itself, becomes one big cycle of pain and relief, pain and relief.

Bro colins,

You hv hit the nail on the head!

Many yrs ago, when I was very young, I could fxxk n forget, no matter how pretty the gals were n how much they tried to KC me. I had my share of locals, M'sian Chi, Thais, HK gals, Taiwanese n Ang Mos, both WLs n non-WLS. After FJs, many of them wanted to go for supper/dinner/sight-seeing/dancing...but I refused to spend one extra minute w/ them. I was a machine, a heartless robot!

After a long hiatus due to family commitments, I reentered the WL scene less than 3 yrs ago n I discovered something strange. In additon to sex which I need less frequently, I now want "emotional fulfilment," as bro colins alluded to. I experienced a very painful rs w/ a PRC 2 yrs ago.

It's an addiction. I crave young pretty pussies which by itself is normal n healthy. Unfortunately, I also enjoy playing KC game w/ at least some of them to boost my ego n for emotional fulfilment. So far so good. I know it's a risky game n I can get burnt badly.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by Fatjumbo

Problem here is how to identify, test whether my KTV gal is sincere and for real. Will a WL buy expensive gift for a man rather than hoping the man to buy for her ? For once I am confused !!! unless it's ""Fang Chang Xian Diao Ta Yu"" strategy.

Any advise for season bros here who have seen it all. Thanks

All relationships start the same way my young friend.
Where got someone who really wants to be wif you asks you for ex gifts and money?????

[DTCEPL]

Dear Bros

I guess when age catches up, we need more emotional support/fulfillment then sex.

I am like that for sure.....I need people to talk to, share time and my experience/work problems with her, maybe even someone to cook a nice meal for me and help to massage me when I am tired after work, well if it comes with sex to balance the needs, thats even better. And I don't want her to judge me which normally Family would.

[colins]

Originally Posted by DTCEPL

Dear Bros

I guess when age catches up, we need more emotional support/fulfillment then sex.

I am like that for sure.....I need people to talk to, share time and my experience/work problems with her, maybe even someone to cook a nice meal for me and help to massage me when I am tired after work, well if it comes with sex to balance the needs, thats even better. And I don't want her to judge me which normally Family would.

Actually bro, what you need IS a family, haha...

Only thing is, its hard to say things out becos these people know you so well that they will tell you answers that you need to hear, and sadly not things which you WANT to hear. You are escaping from your own judgement!

Say, from today onwards, you get into a habit of judging yourself. Most likely you will start to change for the better, cos naturally you will do the things you need and get the things you want. Suddenly you do not need anymore comfort zone to escape your own judgement. In fact, you'll like to hear what people say about you as you can assess them if its true and if so, change yourself for the better. If not, tell them straight in the face that they are not judging you correctly, with facts and logic as your ammo.

Just remember lo, we seek emotional comfort becos it is too painful to face the truth. Its like a wound that will never heal unless you confront it once and for all. Emotional comfort only allow us to live day by day, with that little pain at the side constantly draining our mental. All you need is to fucking tear it apart and find that root of the problem, then heal it or eliminate it.

Dun be afraid of judgement, it is what keep us living everyday, not dying everyday.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by colins

Only thing is, its hard to say things out becos these people know you so well that they will tell you answers that you need to hear, and sadly not things which you WANT to hear. You are escaping from your own judgement!

Say, from today onwards, you get into a habit of judging yourself. Most likely you will start to change for the better, cos naturally you will do the things you need and get the things you want. Suddenly you do not need anymore comfort zone to escape your own judgement. In fact, you'll like to hear what people say about you as you can assess them if its true and if so, change yourself for the better. If not, tell them straight in the face that they are not judging you correctly, with facts and logic as your ammo.

Just remember lo, we seek emotional comfort becos it is too painful to face the truth. Its like a wound that will never heal unless you confront it once and for all. Emotional comfort only allow us to live day by day, with that little pain at the side constantly draining our mental. All you need is to fucking tear it apart and find that root of the problem, then heal it or eliminate it.

Dun be afraid of judgement, it is what keep us living everyday, not dying everyday.

Wow!!!!! Obiwan has spoken....the force is strong on this one!