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Old 08-02-2005, 07:33 PM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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For a Cat40 to meet a Lucky one and for me to meet a Lucky one, the percentage is actually the same.

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I mean lucky one as in those who are already happily married.
Perhaps, an ex-tirak of yours who is now happily married and settled?
Something like that....
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Old 08-02-2005, 07:35 PM
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I can only say its their way of life. i may sound stupid to give up everything but what can i say....they did not keep their promise. Pain yes,wiser yes but we will never understand their thinking and way of finding wealth to lessen their so call hardship. It never end... it just go round n round.
Hope you have left that part of the pain behind. You must have spent quite an amount on them.

Being a WL is just like another normal job for them, this we can never understand. Heard from some WLs that they want to quit but can't as the family has a huge expenditure. How can the parents be happy while knowing that their daughter is selling her body to unknown strangers?

What I can think of is "If I can get big $$$ easily just by opening my legs, why not? I don't have to go thru all this hardship already!"
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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What I can think of is "If I can get big $$$ easily just by opening my legs, why not? I don't have to go thru all this hardship already!"
Wth....anyway they have to go through the biggest hardship ever if they enter this trade...and that is loniness.

That's worst than torture or even the job itself.
No one to open up to,
no one to lend a crying shoulder to(sincerely i mean, not like their family, physically there but mentally want them to get better and start working and feeding them.)
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That's worst than torture or even the job itself.
No one to open up to,
no one to lend a crying shoulder to(sincerely i mean, not like their family, physically there but mentally want them to get better and start working and feeding them.)
The mentality is that If they can feed their families & see them live well, the hardship that they go thru is worth it.
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Old 08-02-2005, 09:04 PM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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My parting shot before I left the room," If I have a child, I will love him/her. If I know my child is working in this trade because of me, I rather die than take her money!!! You go figure it out!".
Fully agree on this part!

Even if have to beg along the streets, will not get the wife or the daughter to sell their bodies. Once started, the emotional scars will be there no matter what they say.
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Old 08-02-2005, 10:40 PM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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The mentality is that If they can feed their families & see them live well, the hardship that they go thru is worth it.
Worth it yes....but they will still feel lonely in the end...
As SC stated....some of them at the age of 50-60 , wth still working at orchard tower. This is really sick man.....

Last time, I used to think those WL, once they go back they will enjoy life...married and live a life they want to live.

Guess the light is out...
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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Fully agree on this part! Even if have to beg along the streets, will not get the wife or the daughter to sell their bodies. Once started, the emotional scars will be there no matter what they say.
i fully agree too!
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i fully agree too!
I wud think it's always easier to be noble and upright when the situation is purely hypothetical. But when there is no food on the table. No roof over the head and no hope for the family and the family is truly suffering and as the one daughter that can thru her single sacrifice bring about a better life for the rest of the family, thru her eyes, wud you be prepared to make this sacrifice insomuch as you being the parent will resort to begging or stealing to prevent the daughter from resorting to prostituition.?

One is parental love and the other is filial piety. Always 2 sides to a coin I guess.
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Old 09-02-2005, 12:17 AM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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I wud think it's always easier to be noble and upright when the situation is purely hypothetical. But when there is no food on the table. No roof over the head and no hope for the family and the family is truly suffering and as the one daughter that can thru her single sacrifice bring about a better life for the rest of the family, thru her eyes, wud you be prepared to make this sacrifice insomuch as you being the parent will resort to begging or stealing to prevent the daughter from resorting to prostituition.?

One is parental love and the other is filial piety. Always 2 sides to a coin I guess.
If so then why after the tour of duty, the family demands more?
If the family love the daughter, they would want her to happy right?

You know the saddest thing is that after they earn their money...it's their family(and possibly their lazy bf as well) who is enjoying it not them...how is this fair???

Life is so unfair...
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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If so then why after the tour of duty, the family demands more?
If the family love the daughter, they would want her to happy right?

You know the saddest thing is that after they earn their money...it's their family(and possibly their lazy bf as well) who is enjoying it not them...how is this fair???

Life is so unfair...
I agree with you bro, Life IS UNFAIR. In this world there will always be givers and takers.

However if the giver gives willingly even when she knows that her actions are foolish, who are we to pass judgement. We can opined as much as we want but unless we hold a position that can change their lives, I guess it's all semantics.

Maybe if we all unite (unrealistically of course) we can take a leaf out of the often heard National Geographic slogan: "If the buying stops, the killing will too."

"FAT HOPE" if you ask me. I guess the killing will continue....sigh....
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Old 09-02-2005, 03:18 AM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

Thai gers are brought up with this mentality. Does it apply to the thai chinese gers to? They too put family as number 1?

I mean since they have chinese parents, I'm sure there's some change or difference in culture. Or maybe not?
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Thai gers are brought up with this mentality. Does it apply to the thai chinese gers to? They too put family as number 1?
Not only TGs are brought up to be fillial. In fact, children of all nationalities are taught to do so. It's just whether they want to "listen".

If you are in their situation, born in those villages or those towns. Not much entertainment nor money to spend like in SG, so most of the time you will be with your family. Over a long period of time, the strong bond is there. So their "sacrifice" is sort of repayment to the family who brought them up painstakingly.

Basically, it all boils down to the differences in thinking between us & them.
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how is this fair???
Fair??? It simply means that "since my daughter can earn this much today, she can do the same the next time! So it's fair for me to spend after taking care of her for so long."

Do I sound biased against them or just plain direct?
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Old 09-02-2005, 05:39 AM
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Re: My Fillial Daughter

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Not only TGs are brought up to be fillial. In fact, children of all nationalities are taught to do so. It's just whether they want to "listen".

If you are in their situation, born in those villages or those towns. Not much entertainment nor money to spend like in SG, so most of the time you will be with your family. Over a long period of time, the strong bond is there. So their "sacrifice" is sort of repayment to the family who brought them up painstakingly.

Basically, it all boils down to the differences in thinking between us & them.
Hmm...maybe I should rephrase my question.
Thai chinese gers and thai gers, are their growing up environment the same?
Are they exposed to the same thai culture?
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Hmm...maybe I should rephrase my question.
Thai chinese gers and thai gers, are their growing up environment the same?
Are they exposed to the same thai culture?
Perhaps SC or TV would be better able to answer your question here.

The basics should be the same. Maybe abit of deviation here & there along their growing up years.
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