Could the Rashomon effect partly explain the contrasting FRs?

[warbird]

"The Rashomon effect (or phenomenon) is the effect of the subjectivity of perception on recollection, by which observers of an event are able to produce substantially different but equally plausible accounts of it.
It is named for Akira Kurosawa's film Rashomon, in which a crime witnessed by four individuals is described in four mutually contradictory ways."

What has this effect got to do w/ commercial sex n SBF? Plenty. There r often contrasting n even contradictory FRs for the same FL. If the gal is from an OKT, bros may suspect that many of the glowing FRs r fabrications or hv been greatly embellished. Perhaps this is the M.O. of some dishonest OKTs n their clones. But many honest OKTs, no doubt unwitting victims of the effect, hv been wrongly accused as well.

But we shall limit urselves only to those truthful n seemingly unbiased FRs. Even if we take into account the fact that "one man's meat is another man's poison," we r still left w/ some very contrasting experiences n FRs for the same gal. I believe honest n observant bros, when receiving the exact same service from the same FL, can perceive vastly different experiences n hence the contrasting FRs.

A case in point is the FRs re Li Wen, a PRC whom I'm trying to help: http://sbf.directory/welcome...ing-prc-5.html

LW's FRs hv been mixed at best n contradictory at worst: Some very good, some so-so n some very bad.

Yesterday I received a PM from a bro who just met up w/ LW: "While she is nice to talk to, her attitude sucks."

I realise that one man's meat is...but I believe the Rashomon effect could be partially responsible here.

Due largely to this effect, our perception of n reaction to essentially the same event could differ widely. This would automatically result in our dissimilar "body language" which in turn may evoke different n divergent responses from the FL. Compounding the complexity of the situation is that our "honest n truthful" recollection of the same event may be subjective, deficient, erroneous or biased.

LW treated me quite well the first time we met, perhaps in part due to my low expectations. It's probable that her initial attitude towards me was equally "bad," as described by the bro. But I perceived it differently becos as Shakespeare said, "It is neither good nor bad but thinking makes it so." And I continued to smile at her n savour her delicious young body n pussy. In response to my positive body language n encouraging remarks, her attitude immediately improved, and so on n so forth. As for rushing, I was the one in a big hurry due to my tight schedule that day (see my FR on 17/7/08).

With RTFs, her service n attitude hv improved greatly, so much so that I experienced a wonderful time w/ her a few days ago. 100%GFE. I now could get from her everything I ever wanted from a woman (while practising safe sex)...

Could my explanations why LW has treated me so well be all wrong? Maybe for some unknown triggering or anchoring mechanism, at the subconscious level, she was intensely attracted to me the first time she saw me, hehe. That would really boost my ego as I'm more than twice her age n slightly shorter than she. BTW, I never bought her any gifts nor gave her any money other than the standard damage n very small tips. Sure, anything is possible but very unlikely.

Ur comments n criticisms will be appreciated.

Thx for reading n hv a great night!!

[cactaur]

Realistically it's not possible for a girl to give the same performance time after time. Fatigue, mood, bad experience with previous client etc all affect the service you get.

Humans are not robots or like a movie where the experience is 100% reproduceable every time. As a rtf you'd get some additional consideration but first impressions count. If you got lousy service the first time of course you wouldn't go back for more.

There really isn't any foolproof solution. Any rating system can be gamed like the stock market etc even though it's supposed to operate on scientific principles like supply and demand. What sbf has at this point is fairly workable, a girl might get great ratings from her okt but negative ratings from genuine bros will tell a different story. The only issue is whether to waitfor more FR or be the vanguard.

[Xamot]

Pretty much plus there is also the issue of chemistry. Some people just tend to fuck better with some people.

[warbird]

For those bros who r unfamilar w/ the famous Japanese movie Rashomon (1950), here is a good review: Rashomon

The moral of this movie for me?

Reality is in the mind of the beholder.

Good day!

[warbird]

The Rashomon effect is relevant in all human activities n endeavours n may hv great influence on history, culture, religion, law n justice, politics, journalism, finance n investment, entertainment, even human evolution, science, medicine n technology, etc., etc.

Just a handful of articles to whet ur appetite:

What a camera test reveals depends on who is doing the testing: DV - Columns - The Rashomon Effect

Assessing Left Ventricular Performance
A Rashomon Effect:
Assessing Left Ventricular Performance: A Rashomon Effect -- de Simone and Devereux 51 (2): 179 -- Hypertension

Bill McDermott, CNBC, and the Rashomon Effect:
Moonwatcher: Bill McDermott, CNBC, and the Rashomon Effect

Eyewitnesses and the Rashomon effect:
Eyewitnesses and the Rashomon effect: a growing body of social science research indicates that eyewitness testimony is less reliable than most lay people think. Should judges allow expert testimony about the studies? (01-AUG-08) Illinois Bar Journal

'Rashomon Effect' at work:
Newstradamus: 'Rashomon Effect' at work

The Rashomon effect:
The Rashomon effect | Features | Jerusalem Post

Reality is in the mind of the beholder!!

Thx for reading!

[warbird]

Although "reality is in the mind of the beholder," I hv been rejected by FLs twice in my life time. This rejections r real, not imaginary, IMHO.

The first rejection happened a long time ago when I was in my early 20s. My good fren n I were so stunned by the beauty of this tall 18-yr-old SYT in New Peitou, Taiwan, that we literally scrambled n scuffled for the right to her pussy!! She ran away n refused to come back, even though I begged the mamasan n offered to triple the damage.

The second rejection occurred last yr. I met this high-priced gal but was disappointed w/ her looks n figure (price exceeded value a lot). My body language was probably very negative n she made an excuse n left. I guess subconsciously I was hoping that she would leave. I didn't even hv to pay Taxi fare.

Have I been treated badly by FLs before? Yes!! Their FRs were all very positive!! Must be the Rashomon effect, haha. I'll cite two examples.

1) A local gal from an OKT. She was too skinny n was sick w/ flu! My body language turned negative immediately n reflexively. I should hv rejected her but paiseh lah. She sensed my negative vibes n responded in kind, haha.

2) A PRC student. She was too short n legs too big lah. Same negative action n reaction. Very bad experience, haha.

Now I'll reject a FL if I'm not satisfied w/ her looks n figure, even if she has entered the rm. I hv learnt to be polite n gracious n will offer to pay her taxi fare.

Just my 2 cents.

Thx for reading.

[Optimus_Prime]

I have learnt to take all the FRs here with a high dosage of salt.

And everything is up to perception like what u said. Let me cite a case :

25 yr old PRC with D-cup Boobs and so-so face. 1.55m tall and curly hair. To different guy she will get different rating.

To a guy who loves Big Boobs - 9/10
To a guy who loves tall girls - 6/10
To a young NS guy - 6/10 (too old)
To a 30-something - 7/10 (just nice)
To a 50-something - 8/10 (wow ! syt ah !)
To a guy who love straight long hair - 5/10
To a guy who prefer wild look - 7.5/10 (curly locks = wild ??)

The instances I noted above is all based on looks only. disregarding all other factors. And there are so many other factors : chemistry, attitude, mood, atmosphere etc etc.... the list is endless.

The FRs here serve as a guide and I tend to trust those with lots of FRs that have a few mixed/negative FR cause no wl is so perfect to get glowing FRs all the time.

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by Optimus_Prime

I have learnt to take all the FRs here with a high dosage of salt.

And everything is up to perception like what u said. Let me cite a case :

25 yr old PRC with D-cup Boobs and so-so face. 1.55m tall and curly hair. To different guy she will get different rating.

To a guy who loves Big Boobs - 9/10
To a guy who loves tall girls - 6/10
To a young NS guy - 6/10 (too old)
To a 30-something - 7/10 (just nice)
To a 50-something - 8/10 (wow ! syt ah !)
To a guy who love straight long hair - 5/10
To a guy who prefer wild look - 7.5/10 (curly locks = wild ??)

The instances I noted above is all based on looks only. disregarding all other factors. And there are so many other factors : chemistry, attitude, mood, atmosphere etc etc.... the list is endless.

The FRs here serve as a guide and I tend to trust those with lots of FRs that have a few mixed/negative FR cause no wl is so perfect to get glowing FRs all the time.

This effect too cheem for me...

For me, even same FL can get different rating depending on mood and level of horniness.

So I usually depend on others to moderate and also RTF and review my own points after a while.

Best is always to hunt yourself...

[Optimus_Prime]

Originally Posted by aczeta76

This effect too cheem for me...

For me, even same FL can get different rating depending on mood and level of horniness.

So I usually depend on others to moderate and also RTF and review my own points after a while.

Best is always to hunt yourself...

yup you are right.

Long long time ago (in a galaxy far far away ???).......

I tried a PRC syt. First time it was so good that I rated it 8/10.

2nd try, I dunno maybe too tired or novelty not there anymore. Whole thing was more like 6/10 for me.

[fathead]

Bro Warbird,

Hope my posting is not 1 of the reasons for you writing such a long post

So Sorry about it

[warbird]

Originally Posted by Optimus_Prime

...
And everything is up to perception like what u said. Let me cite a case :

25 yr old PRC with D-cup Boobs and so-so face. 1.55m tall and curly hair. To different guy she will get different rating...

The instances I noted above is all based on looks only. disregarding all other factors. And there are so many other factors : chemistry, attitude, mood, atmosphere etc etc.... the list is endless.

The FRs here serve as a guide and I tend to trust those with lots of FRs that have a few mixed/negative FR cause no wl is so perfect to get glowing FRs all the time.

I couldn't agree w/ u more, bro.

One man's meat is...

Of course looks can be very subjective, but the Rashomon effect is a bit more than that n may concern something that can be measured or quantified, such as weight n height. For example, two perfectly honest n observant bros meet the same gal. One will say she is tall, maybe 168 n another will say she is short, perhaps only 156!! That is the Rashomon effect!

Originally Posted by aczeta76

This effect too cheem for me...

For me, even same FL can get different rating depending on mood and level of horniness.

So I usually depend on others to moderate and also RTF and review my own points after a while.

Best is always to hunt yourself...

Hi bro,

Very good point. I now try to hunt w/ a pack of like-minded frens in L8 n KTVs, haha.

Originally Posted by Optimus_Prime

yup you are right.

Long long time ago (in a galaxy far far away ???).......

I tried a PRC syt. First time it was so good that I rated it 8/10.

2nd try, I dunno maybe too tired or novelty not there anymore. Whole thing was more like 6/10 for me.

Very interesting. Same bro, same gal, probably same level of service, but vastly different perception n hence the divergence in ratings! Wat to do?

Originally Posted by fathead

Bro Warbird,

Hope my posting is not 1 of the reasons for you writing such a long post

So Sorry about it

Hi bro,

No no. I started this thread on 23 Dec, long before ur post on LW.

Cheers!

[warbird]

I know looks is very subjective n one man's meat is another...and that reality is in the mind of the beholder.

However, there r other factors which could greatly influence how we rate a gal's attractiveness: Makeup, hairdo, dress, accessories, jewelry, etc. And how clearly we can actually see her is important n that depends on whether there is bright light or not(day or night).

Meeting a FL at night in a KTV or along L8/Talma may give unfair advantage to the gal. She is all dressed up n the lighting is usually dim...hmmm. Need to see her again w/o makeup, under bright sunlight, then one can be sure of her true appearance, haha.

[kool8look]

As long as you enjoy....... what is ratings to you?

[warbird]

Originally Posted by kool8look

As long as you enjoy....... what is ratings to you?

To take it a step further, u can always enjoy urself no matter what happens...becos reality is in the mind of the beholder, haha. You will become the happiest man on earth.

Goodnight!!

[warbird]

In the last 8 months, I hv experienced vagaries in many areas of my life...and the mysterious Rashomon Effective is involved n of great significance in all of them, be it in investing, business affairs, family life n chasing n BY-ing SYTs, etc.

Reality is in the mind of the beholder!!

One example: Over 2 yrs ago, I bought a few shares in a young n money-losing co in Gotham City w/ a potentially revolutionary product. Only 6 months ago, the stock price inexplicably tanked n I lost 2/3 of my investment, at least on paper. I bought more, not at the lowest price but as the stock price suddenly surged 50% w/ big vol. Since then, the unique product has shown fantastic potential n since its nadir, the stock price has appreciated WELL OVER 1,000%, hahaha.

The potential of the product of this co was exactly the same 6 months ago when the stock price was at its nadir as it's now when it's more than 10x higher. Same co n same potential to me except the difference in share prices. Why the over 1,000% surge in share price?? I can only attribute it to the Rashomon Effect. Of course the "lemmings effect" aka herd mentality may play a part as well.

I hv many other examples. Knowing n understanding this Effect hv made me a much better investor.

Now let's get back to SBF n discuss the Effect as pertained to cheonging n BY-ing.

BTW, I hv cheonged w/ a young fellow DD for abt a yr. Wats inexplicable is that our preferences for gals r so totally different, well beyond one man's meat is another...

For example, The gal who has given the best fxxk of my life is a legal cat150 Bingbing at L20H62, whom I met in Feb of this yr n for whom I wrote 2 FRs. My young fren drove me there on that fateful n auspicious day. I was immediately very attracted to the 172cm BB, but my fren DD tried very hard to dissuade me from upping her! Luckily, I took her anyway. He later picked a gal who was homely n most unattractive to me!!!

My FRs on BB r the most detailed n best I hv ever written, initial FR on 13/02/09 GL Legal PRC FRs.http://sbf.directory/legal-g...prc-frs-5.html

I RTF-ed her as often as my didi could tahan w/ the assistance of an unlimited supply of Cialis. Sadly, I had to return to Gotham City after 10 days. I guess her height of 172cm w/o shoes were unattractive to many SGP men n her business had only been so-so despite my glowing FRs. Hoping to see her again on my next visit here, I wrote an update on her while I was in Gotham City: http://sbf.directory/legal-g...rc-frs-11.html

Unfortunately, she left our little red dot towards the end of Mar. I'm still in ctc w/ her n hv both her HP in China n Macau. How much do I like her? I hv actually thought abt spending the rest of my life w/ her in China!!

Another example is the SH gal SS w/ whom I had a brief encounter recently. I first saw her at DC hh n picked her to sit w/ DD who was acting as my wingman. They were together for 2 hrs. After I told my BAO-ee GG to leave at 9PM, I gestured SS to sit w/ me...

A wk ago, DD, before leaving for China on a business trip, gave his frank opinion on SS. He knew I had lost ctc w/ her. He said, "I dare not tell u before, but she is very ordinary, I dun understand wat u see in her! BTW, do u know that her body has a smell...BO?"

I must confess that I never detected any strange smell in SS, despite spending many hrs w/ her...

Todate, after seeing perhaps hundreds n hundreds of gals, there was ONLY one gal DD n I both liked: An 18 yo Fujian gal at TAM. She was sitting on my right when I first met the mysterious Mr. Austin at LV sh. He later SMs-ed me that he doesn't understand what I see in her, she is very ordinary, maybe worth $200 for ST...

Now u know the power of the mysterious Rashomon Effect. Reality is indeed in the mind of the beholder, hehehe.

Pls share ur thoughts n personal encounters in which this Effect may play a role w/ all bros here.

Ths n hv a good day!!