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 Or some(one) thing else there tok kong ?? Hahaha... IMO, the haircut and washing is normal.. but the price can't be beat!
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Anyway i will try again, keep trying
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 Nothing out of the ordinary, and definitely nothing special.....
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Evening time at A2 food court is yet another scenery. Quote:
After reading your post,it suddenly reminds me of my trip to the Sillypore Zoo,hehehe...  ...and that is not including the S$5 tram ride. Oh,the Chicken Rice cost S$17.00. Can of coke at S$5...haiz...  (i guess i shouldnt complain) Quote:
https://sbf.directory/showpost.p...ostcount=29494 Sincerely wish you have a good time in your coming trip. Cheers!
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Do you know the price of the VIP, delux and president suite price?
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1. This one has a few Spa in the list,just look at the part on Octopuss Spa will do : https://sbf.directory/showpost.p...ostcount=31136 2. This one is negative review : https://sbf.directory/showpost.p...ostcount=29973 3. This is a little short but still has some quality info : https://sbf.directory/showpost.p...ostcount=31310 4. This is another negative review : https://sbf.directory/showpost.p...ostcount=29102 Do note that I have not been to Octopuss Spa before,but if i were to go there,i will need to be extra careful on its pricing so as not to get chop carrot. Becos i dont like being a carrot head whether the service will ultimately end up good or bad. (Please use your own judgement during reading) Below are more info for your further reference :  Happy reading!! (your question/s should have all been answered,hehehe..)
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After tt we went to no name pub and saw a hot lady who looks like indo-chi dancing and kissing with an ang moh on the dance floor. As usual, the pub was crowded and music is gd.
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Got 10300 for the last 2 days. . And it's above the online rate of 102XX. .
Guess even the local black market are clearing off their rupiah fast.. I predict it will continue to drop until close to 10500.. Bros who are going to batam on Thurs can try visit the local mosque and witness live offering of calf and goats.. By the way, over this weekend went to farm hopping with some Bros and realised that the reason why happy8 and bunga massage are so similar in operation style is because the mamasan in bunga was previously from happy8 !!! Anyway, over the last 2 weeks of weekend farm visiting , I conclude that during weekend the farm with most left are permata indah (ruko beside windsor foodcourt) and bunga massage (in utama ruko behind dc mall) Indah2 still carrot chopping nowadays. . New berry has some hidden gem on the chinese okt phone.
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For me,i now target the source instead. Thats the joint's characteristic (how they are run) and its OKTs characteristic who manage their girls. I begin my journey to collect FRs,from here,from other forums,those who joined me in my Batam trips,those who were independent enough to “ditch me” (lol) after joining my learning trips and from another important source,taxi driver's customers in Batam. As you have mentioned,one man's meat can be another man's poison.A girl can be really bad to a kind/type of customers and good to another ; as much as a customer can also be more picky of a particular girl than other guys over the same girl. I have seen A friend who has a runaway girl booked by another B friend who not only didnt runaway,but glued to B like long lost lover. When i gather all the information,during the procession i gauge base on the characteristic and the experience of the cheongster versus the girls they picked. My results to get good girls? There are several and most of them were psychological factors,eg Lowering expectation,picking name cards in the girl's presence,understanding the scene,the indo culture,types of OKT etc etc. Each of this factors has a reason or 2 which i do not know how to spell out as each of it gonna be super long story so they are all spread out in my postings and summaries in this thread. And i also need to count in some factors of an individual,if "he" is a newbie and/or one who has the character who likes to use money to "crush others" type or one who would use money to "buy" their way in.There are also some who has unrealistic high standard too (notice i dont use the word expectation now?). You can notice this tiny little things in each posting by an individual in this thread everyday. My one size fits all solution FOR MYSELF which may not really fit everyone were stated below : Quote:
I cant guarantee a 100% good time (i believe no one ever can when it comes to cheonging) to anyone but i can almost guarantee that the above will minimise one from having a bad time. The last 5 NEWBIE group trips has proven it for me. Remember? I am experimenting many things and this is one of my smaller scale experiment. May be i am too proud to share my own fails in Batam,maybe i may even faked my summaries since 2014,maybe the boys in the newbie group trips are too shy to share they have a bad time and didnt have the courage to share their true feelings on their girls with me,maybe i am simply lying? But then i tested in more than 5 Newbie group trips and the summaries written over the one year were my results meant for my reviews. In my perspective,I only have one dick (like i always say),i cannot bonk all (or most) of the girls in ALL the joints if i need to understand how each joint,each OKT,each girl works in their respective establishment. In order for me to bonk most of the girls,understand how respective OKT in each joint function,i dwelled with them in the beginning,i gather people and collect information one baby step a time. And over a period of time,i have lots and lots of information whereby i can see with my own eyes to use it to gauge a situation so as to provide a solution mainly for myself and hopefully for each individual's encounter. I do not forget everyone is different. The basic is still on my QUOTE above (or below link) : https://sbf.directory/showth...7#post13096597 ...which will at least minimise the chances of fail/s. I still prefer to help others to learn the rope.
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In a form of minimum respect to another human,I dont post picture of girls (or person) that shows their face,in fact i rarely take photos of the girls I booked. (they did use my phone to take a photo of themselves which i delete off before returning to Sillypore) And when people starts PM-ing me to ask for such details,i am not lying to anyone when i say "i dont know". Of course bros whom i have their contacts,i definitely cannot let others know w/o 1st seeking permission of its owner. Becos of this principle, i have INSISTED to go PERSONALLY to Batam later to collect back my handphone which i left in the Hotel i stayed in my last trip even tho at least half a dozen bros who are heading to Batam after me offered to help me retrieve it back.But i just have to turn down their kindness. Not becos i dont trust them,but it is my responsibility to keep other people's personal information safe (phone numbers being one of it). Its also my principle to right my own wrong and not trouble others unnecessary. My Lesson Learned  __________________________________________________ ________ Back to your list. Your idea of that listing is good for lousy problematic girls but in the long run,it may not turn out as good (personal perspective). One example would be a girl Di An ,popularly known to be a runner. 1. By bro Hottip’s friend who 1st got Di An from Happy 8 at 1.2 mil rupiah on May 2015 : https://sbf.directory/showpo...ostcount=30486 2. And later by Bro Deca who booked from New Berry at 1 mil rupiah during June 2015 : https://sbf.directory/showpo...ostcount=31000 (Happy 8 and Bunga girls are usually priced 20% to 30% higher than most regular joints) Ok,to be fair,I need to emphasis that 2 Dian/s MAY NOT be the same person but when I went back to Happy 8 during July/Aug,there were no longer the girl name Dian ,citing from Papi was she no longer works there. Then again girls who usually have this type of pattern were not born with it. They (both/single girl/s) have been season booking girls for a while in Batam. And if Dian knows she has left with a bad name,next thing she could to do was to simply change their name and if she has a good reputation,she will continue to use the same name in the next place she works in. So your list may becomes not much of a use in this case. Di An is one example,lets not forget about “Yuni” on the below link : https://sbf.directory/showpo...ostcount=32557 Where are the key source of lousy attitude in girls? My 1st findings was from their community,hehehe…so the joint’s community of girl and the attitude of the OKT in the joints plays a very important role. Words do spread between the girls. When I am a lousy customer,every girl “siam” (avoid) me,but if I am a good customer,every girl starts waving at me,hehehe…words spread around fast and so words carried around (fast) can also turn a good girl's character (and mindset) to become a bad one especially when they are still very young (SSYT). Now,lets look at the new SYT girls that just arrived in any joints,hehehe…they are lesser polluted by the so call community hence at times one may find good gems. But then again,not all are good as some are from other joints or has been in this kind of working environment in other parts of Indo,like Jakarta/Medan etc? New SYT also wants to build customer base too,not forgetting the REALLY GOOD ONES would usually be bought over by their customers to be kept as mistress. MILF and or some semi SYT,their characteristic will be more stable and were less likely to be polluted by the community. They also know they are no match with those SSYT in store,therefore focus more onto being service orienting in hope for the return of regular customers while at the same time trying their best to create new ones if opportunity knocks (which sometime dont come much often). Work or go hungry theory here. (work is work,work hard or not is another matter) OKT-wise I guess no need to say much as they are the community’s key people. Joints with "good OKT" knows their girls well enough and they knows their girls are above average (in Batam) they will be confident enough not to practice hard-core selling. I am sure you also know which joints dont need to push their girls but everyday their girls will be 95% sold out even on weekdays. And understanding how the joint runs their business and their OKT’s characteristic is the key to hit some of the right buttons. ("good OKT" here do not means that they are good in character or attitude) I make comparison between the joint’s OKTs,their girls and how their business operation are being ran whenever there is a customer. i am still experimenting and learning as my days in Batam goes and along my experimenting i shared my finding along the way in hope everyone can have a good time and stay safe. The reason for having the listing is for a good cause. But I still believe by just sharing FRs here should be good enough (especially on sharing lousy servicing girls with their names posted). Batam newbies need to learn how to use the search function in the forum which was written in one of my signature links that touches on how to search this Batam Info thread. From uploading and posting of pictures,how to search this thread,how to search for my postings,step by step guide for newbie to navigate Batam to old time senior's good advice,all the way to tipping right were already all on my signature links. Most fails are those who do not read (and understand) and has really bad luck in Batam. There are those who dont read and pass,but their 2nd/3rd trip fails miserably when their luck eventually runs out (thats on non-repeated girls).  My solution (or suggestion) to your list : Try to keep track on EACH JOINT's bad review instead of an individual girl. Of course the girl's name can be be an added information,tho not necessary to have them. Let's say if MM has 2 runaway girls in your list,believe me...out of 10 girls you see there in MM,you will know at least 6 are runaways. Why,you may ask. Its kind of like the culture of the girl's working environment as words spread around,remember? And this culture is different in every booking joint.They learn from each other and adapt fast. Monitor each joint instead. As of date,my list from the most stable joint to the least : 1. Gold Bird 2. New Berry 3. Bunga Massage 4. Permata Indah 5. Happy 8 Massage 6. Hawaii Karaoke (this joint has no ranking yet and has about 20+ girls in any one time during my last 2 visits) The rest are smaller sized joint with usually less than 15 girls,which isnt very accurate,so i shant share it here as it will become misleading if anyone follows it.
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