Team Hoian/hayhay/sidtip vs Team Kittenz/Bote (TomMAffolter)

[Bote]

Beware when you read a moron's posting.
Refer to my signature.

Originally Posted by devilchan78

Thanks for sharing. Learnt something new today.

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by Bote

Beware when you read a moron's posting.
Refer to my signature.

haha. u r back

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

So lets get this straight Im a vietkieu who has RETURNED to my pace of birth and somehow can find a source of income living here, AND IM the loser

You see Tom it was so easy to find those places 2-3 trips ago because I just hopped on the back of a bike driven by someone who stopped me in the street and asked me where I was going. I told him what I wanted. and he drove me to one place after the other. I checked the girls inside and moved on and then I found a nice girl after tryng 3 shops. she wanted to suck me without a condom and I refused and so settled for a hj.

all the places were on the right side of the road - only basically two turns after leaving D1. its so easy to find and every single local reading this would be able to find it by jumping on a bike with a local.

I do remember that it was cheaper than in town and that I nearly paid too much because I didn't realise how cheap it was.

But Tom the saving is $5 and we have to waste ann hour travelling so it doesn't make sense for tourists. If someone pays u the $60 u charge most people then they would be down 60 but then save 5.

its better for them to stay in town and go to a cleaner place like kaka spa or liberty 2 and be safe and clean and happy.

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by hoian

He is what is known as Viet Keu. Offspring of Vietnamese boat people but he couldn't find acceptance in his adopted land and must have committed a crime. Hence he scooted back to VN to try to make ends meet as a pimp.

In VN, the locals dun really trust the VKs. They are seen as descendants of traitors, ppl who fled the country in troubled times instead of staying back like the majority to re-build the country into what it is today. Hence they have no part to play in the growth of VN's economy. Rather they are seen as opportunists, coming back to the country only when it is stable and growing economically.

Nice writing style dude. you have a way with words. u should consider writing a book about your experiences in Vn.

[hoian]

Looks like u are out on parole. Better behave or risk going back to jail.

Originally Posted by Bote

Beware when you read a moron's posting.
Refer to my signature.

U are welcome.

Originally Posted by devilchan78

Thanks for sharing. Learnt something new today.

Thanks. I think Tom's mistake was underestimating the company he is in... when trying to scam newbies here. Some of us here, including the moderator, can understand Vietnamese to varying degrees. And it's easy for us to call out his numerous scams. Eg using photos of gals from the VN sex forums and trying to make it sound like they are part of his harem.

Originally Posted by sidtip

Nice writing style dude. you have a way with words. u should consider writing a book about your experiences in Vn.

[sidtip]

what a discovery

Hey Tom. I went back through my ISG posts to try to find out if I mentioned those cheap shops on the outskirts and I found this message in the year 2014 from a person called VietLover. I introduced him and others to Kaka all those years ago. but what got my interest was that he says in his post that he is going to Indonesia soon and u also said that u were in Indonesia. Was this u???????????? Am I the person who introduced u to Kaka????

Kaka Spa was formed in 2012, according to official records, but I cant see any mention of it in sex forums before I revealed it in 2014 - but I may be wrong.. So Tom, its good to see that u r taking information that I got and using it to make yourself sound good.

I'm only mentioning this dude because it seems that u r not as good a punter as u tell everyone.

Viet Lover : "I didn't have KaKa to do these past few days so it didn't feel like alot of effort on my part. Yes, it required a lot of walking, but it was time well-spent because it gave me something to do. Besides, I was looking to get a massage or two or 138. Sidtrip's posts just gave me a pseudo-goal while adventuring on the streets of HCM. So in the end, if I truly found the spot or not, it doesn't matter. I still found interesting spots that hopefully everyone can enjoy later. With that in mind, the spot I found on BV is upstairs a Cafe / Crepe / Pizza place. I think there is only one Cafe / Crepe / Pizza spot so you can't miss it. Sidtrip, if that's not the spot, you don't have to say. I'm done looking because I have no more free time for a little while. Got 0932981603 things to do before I move to Indonesia. I hope the guys on that board are as cool as you folks in Vietnam.

[hoian]

Gee how did u "know" so much abt me when we have never met? LOL... btw did I tell u that I am from the planet Krypton and I am allergic to kryptonite?

Btw u have to make up your mind abt your hallucinations ... sometime back u said i have never been to VN and now u say its "rarely"... which is which?

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

...ugly 50yr old loser who must go online and live a fantasy because the rest of the time he cooped up in his mothers basement, and the only reason he comes to vn, which it seems is rarely anyway..

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

you originally said brothel so i didnt know what you were talking abt but now i know what you are referring to, secondly your assumption is the place you described is ALL i know

Thanks for the admission. I know a lot more than u think but I just didn't realise that these places were part of your secret "stable" of girls. I am sure some or all of those places have closed but I bet there are new ones in the same street.

Tom I actually admire your ability to make a business out of charging people to show them around. And maybe its helpful to some of them. But if you are spoiling this forum and pretending it is difficult to find girls in Saigon then I guess we should all do something to stop u.

I'm going to stop posting about u soon as long as u stop insulting people. But if u harass anyone then ill come back and I will do everything I can to spoil your business. My first step will simply be to make a list of places and addresses for newbies in D1 and ill make sure we post it constantly so that newbies see it.

I have your name and pic and ill start using them too.

[sidtip]

this is what viet said about kaka - found a spot in backpacker's area that is a massage spot inside / upstairs a cafe / eatery place. could be your spot sidtrip or just coincidentally similar. the girl outside giving out flyers though was not stunning. possibly they have an early shift girl and a late shift girl? i went around 4 pm so i saw the early shift girl (i did not select her for the massage). the price given to me is 210,000 for a 75 min body massage. four hands massage 300,000. i chose the 4 hands and asked for the private room (i saw 2 rooms - 1 private and 1 with 3 massage beds). there were a total of 5 girls that i could choose from. quyen is the manager and also the older more experienced masseuse. phuong is the pretty thin girl. xiu is the short cute girl. na is the girl giving out the flyers downstairs. and the fifth girl, i didn't even ask for her name as she was not attractive at all. quyen told me that another 2 girls also worked there, but they were late shift employees (so it's possible sidtrip's girl is one of these two). back to my experience. i chose quyen and phuong. quyen gave me the "i'm the manager here. i'm not really supposed to give massages" speech, but of course, she participated in the massage. the massage itself was pretty good. quyen took the lead and did a good job. phuong was just alright in terms of the massage. when it came to the deed, quyen asked me which girl i preferred. heck, i said i thought i was getting a 4 hand massage. you both participate in the deed. quyen then asked for a $30 tip for each girl, which of course i balked at. i offered my usual $15/ girl tip. we settled on $20/ girl. yes, i know. i should've stayed strong, but when you're in that situation, you don't want to [CodeWord140] the girls off and get a bad session. total damage 1,100,00 vnd or approximately $55. sidtrip, did you say just the tip was $60 or the entire experience? anyway, the deed was good. got to play with both girls, but it was almost hard to concentrate. i kept going back and forth from one boob to the other. they both pulled their shirts down but wouldn't take off the bra. so i still had to struggle to get in there. in the end, i left pretty satisfied. paid more than i wanted to, but it was an experience. haven't had a 4 hand session in a long time. when i left, quyen gave me her number. she said that i can actually call and book a girl to go to the hotel for massage. same price, just add 50,000 vnd for cab ride. i guess the assumption is that your hotel actually has to be in d1. so, i have the number, i know the spot, but not sure if it's sidtrip's spot. if he can somehow confirm it is not the spot, i will give you all the address and phone number. the spot i went to is on bui vien (that's not really giving away anything since you already mentioned it was in backpacking district, which bui vien is the main street). the eatery portion is not vietnamese food. if that's the spot, then i won't say anything further until you want to disclose it yourself (after your next trip).

[hoian]

We all know by now how you love to twist the facts and add some of your own imaginary scenarios.

Well, at least I have some solid facts on you:
(1) You are a pedophile (read my signature) wanted by the FBI.
Anyone connected to u is also a suspected pedo. Which explains why NO ONE has come out to stand up for u despite your claims to have provided great service.
(2) You were trying to pass off dark-skinned Cambodians as VN gals to dumbass newbies like lausung -- which I found out & inadvertently may have embarrassed him. Also explains why he hates me enough to create a lie about me (a veteran) needing any info from him/newbie... what a joke.
(3) You are a pimp scamming desperate foreigners coming to VN.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

well given that i saw you GROSS inaccuracies abt vietnam i made the assessement that the ONLY thing you know abt vietnam is from google never actually been there, later i was shown your pm to lausung ...

[Bote]

WTF you call yourself a veteran? Masturbating Veteran......lol
We all know you are the greatest moron who love to twist the facts and add some of your own imaginary scenarios despite being exposed.

See below
https://sbf.directory/showpo...ostcount=12531

Originally Posted by hoian

We all know by now how you love to twist the facts and add some of your own imaginary scenarios.

You were trying to pass off dark-skinned Cambodians as VN gals to dumbass newbies like lausung -- which I found out & inadvertently may have embarrassed him. Also explains why he hates me enough to create a lie about me (a veteran) needing any info from him/newbie... what a joke.

[Bote]

Hoian dont like young girl lar.
1 bro who met Hoian told me he always pick up ladyboy from the park near ben thanh market.
Hoian insist that bro try his ladyboy which he reject and run away.

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

wow post a pic with comment that she is a young girl means im a pedo...who here doenst like young gals...NOONE except hoian...actually he does liek but knows he can never access, so must be content with old dark ugly ones that he and reimagine into a model/ There are more liek this but i know your habits of being slective with facts..

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

wow post a pic with comment that she is a young girl means im a pedo...who here doenst like young gals...NOONE except hoian...actually he does liek but knows he can never access, so must be content with old dark ugly ones that he and reimagine into a model/ There are more liek this but i know your habits of being slective with facts..

hahah. what a fake review. u just posted. why was the writing so perfect, even the commas. hahahahahhah. scammer

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by donutboyboy

Hi bros, anyone have any idea where to find virgin escort in Vietnam?

Someone will PM u and will offer to find u young girls and will try to charge u $75. Of course he will take your money and introduce u to old ladies and ride off on his motorbike when u r with the old lady. He will show u photos of young girls.

he may even say u can pay him after u see the girls but the girls will all be 7 out of 10 and not as good as the girls u can find in the city in kaka spa or liberty 2. so be careful of the dangerous people who will PM u

One of them will even take your photo and find out your name and may publish your details online if u upset him or do not pay him. Beware of blackmail and extortion if someone PMs u.

[sidtip]

Originally Posted by TomMAffolter

moron, look for it on isg, the guy also wrote reviews in canada..still say its fake
thats like me saying your fake and a clone of hoian...get your head outta yer ass

It's fake. someone I know wanted fake hotel reviews so they set up a fake profile and did reviews of lots of places so it did not look suspicious.

fake reviews are illegal I'm my country. u r a dangerous man dude. u take photos of ur clients and if they criticise u then u threaten to post the photos .