Schoolboy true adventure in the ''place of liar''

[nightfever111]

I am not here to judge all other samsters. I only sibeh tulan gr888. This cockster is trying to portray himself as a sex god. Saying girl will actually kneel down begging him for tea treatment. Walao. He think he is andy lau. Maybe he is just a lao cock cock.

[deadchief]

Originally Posted by nightfever111

Conor, will u write ur own sexual escapade and show it to ur mum, wife or sis? I think less than 10% of pple who wrote frs will share it with them. Do u know why? A high percentage of the girls working in the sex trade are either tricked or forced to work in this industry. To encourage pple to go f them, i think it is defintely a wrong thing to do. Of cos, we make our own choices. Recently many sexual perpetrators were charged in india. When u pay for sex, how do u know whether the girl u are fking is not forced to serve u. Does it make any diff between u and the pple charged in court? The point is, many pple also doing it doesnt mean it is right. Unless u are 100% sure the girls are enjoying the sexual encounter with u.

Write an fr, show it to ur loved ones and boast ur sexual prowess in front of them. If u can do it without any traces of guilt, then i got nothing to type liao.

Nightfever, I read your statements to bro conor and agree you have valid points and your arguments are logical.

Correct me if I am wrong, to summarize, your stand is:
1. We should not write FRs because it is wrong.
2. We should not look for prostitutes because it is wrong.
3. We should not encourage others to go for commercial sex because the girls may be forced to do it. It is against Women's charter.
4. We should feel guilty because posting FRs is wrong as we will never show it to our loved ones.

Did I sum it up correctly? Did other brothers here get the same conclusion from reading the quoted paragraph?

[conor]

Originally Posted by nightfever111

Conor, will u write ur own sexual escapade and show it to ur mum, wife or sis? I think less than 10% of pple who wrote frs will share it with them. Do u know why? A high percentage of the girls working in the sex trade are either tricked or forced to work in this industry. To encourage pple to go f them, i think it is defintely a wrong thing to do. Of cos, we make our own choices. Recently many sexual perpetrators were charged in india. When u pay for sex, how do u know whether the girl u are fking is not forced to serve u. Does it make any diff between u and the pple charged in court? The point is, many pple also doing it doesnt mean it is right. Unless u are 100% sure the girls are enjoying the sexual encounter with u.

Write an fr, show it to ur loved ones and boast ur sexual prowess in front of them. If u can do it without any traces of guilt, then i got nothing to type liao.

The diff in this case is there is a willing buyer and willing seller. How can you even draw parallels to this situation and one of rape. Haha. I dun see myself being charged in court for engaging a gal for sexual purposes. Unless she is a minor which is of cos agst the law. Other than that, it is no crime.

As for FRs being wrong just becos I wont show it to my mum, wife or sis, let me now pose you a similar question. Do you ever masturbate? Will you jerk yourself off in front of them? If you wont show them then its wrong and you should never masturbate. Do you see how ridiculous this sounds? So by virtue of your own reasoning, then its either a case of you have never masturbated or you see no guilt doing it in front of your mum or sis. Which I sincerely hope it is not the case. Correct me if i am wrong.

Next, to assume that these working ladies are doing it out of force or coercion is too simplistic a view. Many of them do so just becos it is a way to earn a quick buck. Slog it out for a few years and they have enough cash that they may otherwise have to take a lifetime to earn. Why would I need to be 100% sure they are enjoying it before I patronize them? Do you think the Kim's hokkien mee uncle enjoys standing in front of a wok stir frying for 10 hours a day? I dun think so. But this enables him to wear a $30k rolex watch, drive a merc and allows his family to live in a landed property comfortably. Again with your reasoning, then we should not patronise his business unless we are 100% sure he is enjoying frying his noodles day in day out. Lets get real. This is a living. Granted who would choose to be a hooker in their life if they can help it. But given their own special circumstances, thats the path most of them have decided is their best way. Whats wrong if both parties are willing to come into a contract for gratifying each other. For the customer sexually and the ML economically.

Lastly, you may have contention with how bro GR888 writes his FRs. For me, its to each his own. If I dun like it then I dun read it. He may seem swanky to you. So say it for what it is. Instead of using lame moralistic arguments that writing FRs are wrong and that the gals are forced into prostituting themselves. Lets not let naivete rule the day and get carried away. This way you may just have some credibility in your argument.

Sorry to rant. But some issues are too blatantly wrong for me to ignore.

[ang076]

Bro nightfever111,

First, we are not supposed to say others willl have bad karma.
Why? we are all guilty of engaging in commercial sex.

For me, I am the biggest sinner because I am a 'liar' who love to see apprehensiveness in gals when they saw me as low IQ kid from special school or intellectually disabled boy fresh out of special school earning low wage as a cleaner from fast food restaurant, or effeminate boy studying in poly.


I even wrote fantasy stories on my superior, and also wrote nonsense fantasy on 3 Kingdoms. Of course, I will surely be punished by God of War, Guan Yu and his assistant , Liu Bei for that when I died.

To tell you the truth, my mother already know of my visiting this forum to type FR and watch porn .

( when my mother came in the room to sweep floor, I then watching JAV lesbian porn, I said '' Mum, is it nice?'' with my tongue stick out. My mother simply shook her head in mockingly way. I love her expression. Sometimes, when I come home late, I told her I am having fun in a spa . or go Gelyang to have fun.)


As long as bro GR888 or others dont cheat on gals by not paying for services or forced them to do raw, it is okay to post FR but maintain stricter standard on contact sharing.

[nightfever111]

Conor, jerking urself in the presence of unwillingly witnesses is definitely against the law. Thats why i dont do that. I do it privately. In our lives, we are governed by our own "moral law". That differentiate us from the animals. U may say that buying sex is not against the law as long as the girl is above the stipulated lawful age. What about ur conscience? Like i said, u nless u know the gal u are ramming is happy with the arrangement, there is nothing wrong. But will each and every gal u bought sex from ever told u why she is in the trade? I dont think u even bother to ask cos ur lust is clouding ur own moral judgement.

And i think most wl will be willing to sell hokkien mee if they do have the recipe. Maybe u should ask the hokkien mee hawker if he can earn more by selling his karcheng, will he be willing to give up his trade? At least i know i wont be hurting the uncle when i buy his mee. Well, maybe emotionally and physically.

Gr888 fr is very low class. Derogatory remarks repeatedly against wl. Thats the diff. I am not here to stop samsters not to look for wl anymore. Nvr my intention to do that. Its ur live. Nobody can stop u from doing that. But next time before u put ur cock into the wl, try asking her whether she enjoys it or not. In this world, even ladies who are above age 21 are forced into sex trade. Conor, u definitely know about it. U said nothing is wrong if the gals are willing. Have u ever ask them this question before u proceed to have sex with them? If u dont ask, how do u know they are willing.

[conor]

Originally Posted by nightfever111

Conor, jerking urself in the presence of unwillingly witnesses is definitely against the law. Thats why i dont do that. I do it privately. In our lives, we are governed by our own "moral law". That differentiate us from the animals. U may say that buying sex is not against the law as long as the girl is above the stipulated lawful age. What about ur conscience? Like i said, u nless u know the gal u are ramming is happy with the arrangement, there is nothing wrong. But will each and every gal u bought sex from ever told u why she is in the trade? I dont think u even bother to ask cos ur lust is clouding ur own moral judgement.

And i think most wl will be willing to sell hokkien mee if they do have the recipe. Maybe u should ask the hokkien mee hawker if he can earn more by selling his karcheng, will he be willing to give up his trade? At least i know i wont be hurting the uncle when i buy his mee. Well, maybe emotionally and physically.

Gr888 fr is very low class. Derogatory remarks repeatedly against wl. Thats the diff. I am not here to stop samsters not to look for wl anymore. Nvr my intention to do that. Its ur live. Nobody can stop u from doing that. But next time before u put ur cock into the wl, try asking her whether she enjoys it or not. In this world, even ladies who are above age 21 are forced into sex trade. Conor, u definitely know about it. U said nothing is wrong if the gals are willing. Have u ever ask them this question before u proceed to have sex with them? If u dont ask, how do u know they are willing.

If you are standing on such high moral grounds, may I ask why do you yourself have dozens of posts with FRs and also asking for contacts. I am a little lost with your intentions. Firstly you yourself obviously pay for sex and write FRs. Next moment you come crusading agst such actions. Are you suffering from schizophrenia? You should seek professional help. And I dun mean for your little head. Sorry couldnt avoid that pun. But really you should. And I mean it in a sincere way. Hope you get get well soon.

[JJSS]

Originally Posted by nightfever111

I am not here to judge all other samsters. I only sibeh tulan gr888. This cockster is trying to portray himself as a sex god. Saying girl will actually kneel down begging him for tea treatment. Walao. He think he is andy lau. Maybe he is just a lao cock cock.

Most samsters knew about the problem I have with this idiot gr888, this guy only know how to look up!! To those bros whose speak up for him, it's your prerogative to support him, so it's mine and bro nightfever111 to speak our mind on him.
I quote what bro Conor said... " its to each his own. If I dun like it then I dun read it." The same must be applied here, so let us settle this amongst ourselves..........the only problem here is that.....the chicken gr888 has went into hiding.

[nightfever111]

Schizophrenia? Do u really know what it means? Btw, earlier posts not done by me. Asking for contacts and writing frs definitely not my doing. Living on higher moral grounds? I dont think i am better than u in any way. But my friend is really good at writing fr. One whole year later and his thread is still alive and with so many pax asking for contact. As for ur suggestion to me to look for a doctor to check out my mental state, i believe i am fine. I am defintely not a schizo. Conor, u said it is fine if the gal u paid for sex is a willing party. Do u really know she is willing to do that without a single ounce of disgust? Have u ever ask them this question? They are many videos on youtube narating the plight of sex workers. If after watching the vids and u still think u have done no wrong, then nobody can stop u. Cos its ur life. Like what u have said, if u dont like any posts, u can dont read it. Even if i am a schizo, it is not gonna affect ur daily life.

To pay for sex is a right thing to do. To a certain degree, i would concur with ur statement. But if the gal is not a willing party, that is definitely wrong. So i implore u to ask each and every gal u are pay for sex with. Ask them the question. "Are u being forced or tricked into this trade". If she said no, pls enjoy ur session. If she said yes and u still f her, then i think its u who should go visit a shrink. Cos u still choose to release ur sexual urge blatantly knowing that this girl is being exploitated sexually for money. And its u who pump money into this billion dollar industry clearly knowing that millions of gals are suffering worldwide cos of ur own selfishness.

Writing fr is not wrong. I have said that before. But to make derogatory remarks at wl is a totally diff scenario. Its alrdy very pitiful to get fucked at just for making a living. Does gr888 has to put salt into their wounds by making them sounds like they are his sex slaves? Conor, imagine u have to sell ur ass for a living and ur customer is making such remarks at u. Dont u tell me u wont feel dulan.

Life is short. Enjoy it while u can. But pls dont do it at one's suffering. Thats my point. Wl are sentient beings too. They deserved to be respected in the choice they have made or forced to make.

[nightfever111]

Conor, try putting urself into the wl's situation. If u have a customer like gr888 and after the session he brags ard and put u down just like a sex slave to him. Will u still regard him as a sex legend or just simply a pc of crap? Do whatever u want in ur life. If u think that what i have typed makes no sense at all, i am ok with it. Just watch the videos at youtube. I hope it will help u make a better judgement call in future when u pay for sex. Remember, we are blessed cos everyday we dont have to be fucked at just to put a meal on the table for our family.

[Giansex]

Originally Posted by nightfever111

I am not here to judge all other samsters. I only sibeh tulan gr888. This cockster is trying to portray himself as a sex god. Saying girl will actually kneel down begging him for tea treatment. Walao. He think he is andy lau. Maybe he is just a lao cock cock.

Bro i agree with u, to post a fr keep it short n sweet.but gr888 is display his harvard english in his daily fr to showcase his sex skills.paiseh me hokkien beng that y i say he ka ki sia fr ka ki song.he potraying himself is equipped with an 8inch dick and can last for 60mins.who know maybe hes an 10sec man? Haha!!!

[GR888]

Fwah!!! So much traffic on this thread since I last logged on!?!?!
Gonna sleep now... just got back home... too much cheonging and partying this week... weekend still going to cheong some more.

[deadchief]

Originally Posted by conor

Bro Nightfever, with all due respect, what is wrong with writing FRs? Isnt this the whole point of a sex forum? To share and exchange info. I think there has also been a lot of other FRs shared by many other samster bros here. Not only him.

Bro Nightfever,

I think you are too harsh with bro Conor. If you read his post in quotes carefully there is no malicious intent. He was just saying a very general thing, with politeness like the phrase "with all due respect", he addressed u as "Bro". I may be missing something maybe you had private pm exchange before, but then (my personal view) I think your next post on him is not very nice and quite unfair (I add I do not know conor personally, I just think its not fair to him from an objective viewpoint)

You also cannot blame him for using the word "Schizoprenia" cos honestly I had the same conclusion too! How are we supposed to know two people (I assume your friend) are using your account?

Any reasonable person reading your prev posts without knowing that two guys with diff moral standards are sharing ONE account will have the same conclusion! See links below

http://sbf.directory/showpos...&postcount=184
http://sbf.directory/showpos...19&postcount=2
http://sbf.directory/showpos...02&postcount=4
http://sbf.directory/showpos...7&postcount=52

To me everyone have different value systems and its ok, I respect that ... But I cannot stand hypocrites, those that say one thing and do another thing. Your viewpoints are valid viewpoints but so does each one of us, including bro conor's Hokkien Mee analogy which I think is quite humorous.

There are thousands who read the forum everyday, one can understand why if other people who read your previous posts and compare with your present stand start to feel a bit confused and draw the same conclusion.

[nightfever111]

Deadchief, i am definitely not against conor. Like i said, everyone is free to do what he likes for his life. When my friend showed me his thread on land of minah, we were having a good laugh out of it. I even told him his fr can really make pple feel horny although it is fake. Then i went thru a couple of threads. Gr888 indeed is an arse. Read it and u will know what i mean. Dont try to portray urself as a sex god and at the same time insulting the girl who served u. I am not sure whether gr888 has got a fanbase. But what he has written is definitely distasteful.

Conor has said that if both parties are willing parties in the pay for sex agreement, it is fine todo it. I totally agree with him. But right now, he didnt even tell us the girls in the past whom he has fucked, did he ask that important question or not. I am not naive. I think conor is naive to think that all wl he has fucked in the past are willing parties.

Recently a number of johns were caught by the sg authorities having sex with a viet minor. The victim later revealed that she was in fact beaten and drugged by her okt and wife so as to exploit her sexually for money. Does she looks normal to the johns prior to sex with her? I think should be. But the factors which push her into this trade is only revealed in court when she felt safe to say it out. Who is in the wrong? The johns or the okt and wife? The johns will not be bother about the life story of the wl. Same like when conor is paying for sex. But i firmly believe that if conor knows about the plight of the wl, maybe he will think twice before putting his cock into the gal.

If u dont ask the gal, u will never know what has happened to her. And many pple are prosecuted cos they dont bother to ask. Just wana fuk and leave. Do i pity the underaged sg escort? No, i definitely do not think of her as a victim. She entered this trade out of her own free will. But i do feel for the viet minor cos she is in a foreign land, with nobody to turn to when being beaten and drugged. and thats my point. There are many girls out there being exploited sexually for money. Feel for them and their family. I believe u wouldnt want ur kids to hurt this vulnerable grp of wl when they grow up.

Conor is in denial that all wls he has fuked are forced into the sex trade. I am not saying all of them. What if there is just one of them is forced or tricked, will he still have the urge to fuk her? I hope he will not cos it is really not a cool thing to do.

[JJSS]

Originally Posted by GR888

Fwah!!! So much traffic on this thread since I last logged on!?!?!
Gonna sleep now... just got back home... too much cheonging and partying this week... weekend still going to cheong some more.

Don't pretend arse hole! You has been reading these exchanges without logging in! you are just too chicken and coward to surface.....hiding and ignoring like a coward. Now you have slept, are you coming out to say your bit?? I guess not.......because you got no bollah
" weekend still going to cheongsam some more"......means....you are going into hiding over the weekend, hahaha....bloody lame excuse again.....never came across a useless chicken coward like you before.

[JJSS]

Originally Posted by Giansex

Bro i agree with u, to post a fr keep it short n sweet.but gr888 is display his harvard english in his daily fr to showcase his sex skills.paiseh me hokkien beng that y i say he ka ki sia fr ka ki song.he potraying himself is equipped with an 8inch dick and can last for 60mins.who know maybe hes an 10sec man? Haha!!!

Bro Gainsex,
You assumed wrongly and over compliment this donkey hole, he can't see his own chickadee while standing up and only last 2 second! Haha