Mistress

[justime]

Originally Posted by warbird

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Thx for stressing that emotional discipline is the key.
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It's really very bad news. An experienced bro told me yesterday that my heart is too soft n that I hv to be a player rather than a playee. He is 100% right. Once a gal knows that I like her, she will play hard to get n try to squeeze money out of me w/o going to bed. I need to change my mindset n treat these PRC MMs like common whores.

Perhaps I was poisoned by the American saying: “You treat a queen like a whore and a whore like a queen. You can’t go wrong.” I now know that is total BS.

Thx again for intro JJ. Although I might hv paid her above market rate, I met her outside KTVs n didn't spend a penny on drinks, etc.

Hi warbird, do you know whether JJ will be coming to SIN again?

Anyway, I think overall you did quite well in the handling of the situation. Don’t berate yourself on paying premium (‘above’ market rate). We are all victims of paying for the “golden pussy” syndrome at some points of our cheonging life!

Yes, some girls are tough to chu jie (and I rate JJ as being one of them). And you being a TAM regular would no doubt witness cases whereby even if a thousand dollars are proffered for that ‘golden pussy’ it is turned down. So in the grand scheme of things, you did alright:

1) In actually getting her to agree to be your mistress. And your modus operandi and approach in getting to that agreement was spot on as you dictated terms throughout.

I really like the part whereby you negotiated / communicated your sexual expectations with her. Sex is part of the equation in the BY and you did not leave this all important aspect vague like a lot of Uninformed Brothers in their attempts to BY. If you leave it vague, it usually means that it will be her discretion whether to dispense her pussy (if at all) and at her convenience not yours!

So for a first foray using a ‘new’ approach, you did rather well, An you will get even better in time.

2) You controlled the financial transaction throughout. You are not bullied into paying upfront the entire sum. And you get to have sex with her. Many men I know will not even go past first base for a "difficult to chu jie girl" like JJ despite spending crazy money.

3) You actually get to shag a pretty girl with good potential to go very high in the aesthetics department. If JJ were to apply the right grooming technique, I tell you, many men will fall under her spell. She is tall and her figure is nicely proportionate – the type whereby appeals to many men here.

4) Yes, you may pay a little more than a direct chu jie transaction but this is mitigated by the fact that money is saved as it was done outside a KTV scenario.

Again add to the fact that JJ set her chu jie value very high, all in all you did get a bargain of sorts and you did well.

Originally Posted by Blue_gal

if me got "material" to do the "trade" .. i might consider.....to forgo the PRIDE ..

But tHen i think i still hv some to keep for myself...at least n i believe in HARD EARNED MONEY ... like the COW in the field...

Well, if i am the GUY wif the $$$$ i would also like n can afford to choose what i wanna in life...

Good LUck guy with too many 2 cents worth..

Cheer~
BitChy Blue AUntiE

Welcome to the thread Blue Girl (how appropriate the Smurfette avatar!).

For a self proclaimed ‘auntie’ you displayed remarkably many cool factors in your post. : like the use of colour blue to harmonize with your nick, the radical insinuation of liking it ‘raw’ in your signature and tHe quirky uSe of cAPitalisations iN yOUr post …. I also like the way you refer to the “pussy” as Catand the thinly veiled sexual reference of 'water' in the well!

I am not sure if the “material” you refer to is the looks or beauty, but at least you have the psychological pre-disposition to tease up an interest. And with this you can ensnare a lot men if you so choose!

Blue Girl, I have not seen your other posts save what you write here in this thread earlier; and already initial vibes are showing that you must be:

i) one hell of a sassy girl
ii) guy adopting a girl persona in the net
iii) “one of the guys” kinda of lady (working in a predominantly male setting!).
iv) in the advertising or “entertainment” line – our kind of entertainment.
v) none of the above? simply a salaried worker ekeing out a living?

Whatever it is, I simply love the different tone and flavour you bring in the thread Blue Girl! Do provide your views and perspective now and then on this subject of empowerment and some anecdotes about your personal life. I sure many brothers including myself would be interested to hear more from you!

Cheers!

[warbird]

Originally Posted by justime

Hi warbird, do you know whether JJ will be coming to SIN again?

Anyway, I think overall you did quite well in the handling of the situation. Don’t berate yourself on paying premium (‘above’ market rate). We are all victims of paying for the “golden pussy” syndrome at some points of our cheonging life!

Yes, some girls are tough to chu jie (and I rate JJ as being one of them). And you being a TAM regular would no doubt witness cases whereby even if a thousand dollars are proffered for that ‘golden pussy’ it is turned down. So in the grand scheme of things, you did alright:

1) In actually getting her to agree to be your mistress. And your modus operandi and approach in getting to that agreement was spot on as you dictated terms throughout.

I really like the part whereby you negotiated / communicated your sexual expectations with her. Sex is part of the equation in the BY and you did not leave this all important aspect vague like a lot of Uninformed Brothers in their attempts to BY. If you leave it vague, it usually means that it will be her discretion whether to dispense her pussy (if at all) and at her convenience not yours!

So for a first foray using a ‘new’ approach, you did rather well, An you will get even better in time.

2) You controlled the financial transaction throughout. You are not bullied into paying upfront the entire sum. And you get to have sex with her. Many men I know will not even go past first base for a "difficult to chu jie girl" like JJ despite spending crazy money.

3) You actually get to shag a pretty girl with good potential to go very high in the aesthetics department. If JJ were to apply the right grooming technique, I tell you, many men will fall under her spell. She is tall and her figure is nicely proportionate – the type whereby appeals to many men here.

4) Yes, you may pay a little more than a direct chu jie transaction but this is mitigated by the fact that money is saved as it was done outside a KTV scenario.

Again add to the fact that JJ set her chu jie value very high, all in all you did get a bargain of sorts and you did well.

Hi bro justime,

I doubt that she will be back to work at KTVs here. She chose to leave Sat 18 July, 11 days prior to her visa expiration.

I hv her China HP n we hv exchanged SMSes. I'm beginning to miss her. I remember her puzzled facial expressions when I was having a dialog in Hokkien w/ two middle-aged men, both complete strangers, in a restaurant. We were talking abt her n she must hv vaguely sensed it. She looked demure n so very cute n pretty. I should hv kept her just for companionship.

Of course she will return as someone's mistress or er nai. I may want to be that someone when I come back in Nov (hopefully), haha. I'll need to arrange for suitable accommodation.

Good day!!

[Loving_Dickhead]

Originally Posted by yinyang

Common place fibs (or "strawberries") with thai crowd, not restricted to:
> sick buffalo (or died!)
> accident (road or home)
> hospital (miraculous recovery after!)
> behind in rent

I really like the Buffalo one, something new to me as well.
Also, it looks like the hospital ruse is one of the most often stories we guys came across. They do (collectively) think we are fools, ain't they?

[Loving_Dickhead]

Originally Posted by justime

Thanks Loving Dickhead for enumerating the excuses and pretexts that WL uses to get us part with our money. 95% of the stories/pretexts are fiction? I think more likely to be 99%!

My exposures not as overwhelming as yours bro so my guesstimate is around 95%. But I do reckon, as numbers and exposures to such WL increases, the percentages may even go as high as 99.5%. This, I would seek enlightenment from the Mistresses Brotherhood kingdom's statistician.

Originally Posted by justime

Just a little anecdote about this particular girl:
Seeing the numerous of facial products she owns somehow brought out the little devil in me. I admit that I was ‘irritated’ seeing that she wants me to buy her more facial products despite her dresser being stacked high in them -most of them unused (I was not quite fully on the empowered stage then - still only in transition!)

What I did was to then intentionally asked to come on her face and then for her to use this come and apply it like a face cream. I made it difficult for her to say no. I can still vividly remember her attempts to please me. Her first hesitant attempts to apply my come on her face; then her slightly imploring looks for me to tell her to stop, and finally realizing the futility in getting me to change my mind, she took in a deep breath and then just applied my “cream” with such gusto (with lip licking relish, exaggerate moaning and all). Her subsequent slutty actions were in marked contrast with her earlier hesitance. Gotta say that it is hell of a turn on that I fucked her hard there and then. (Nope I didn’t kiss her and congealed spunk is indeed a little like facial mask - texture wise!).

And I didn’t buy her the face cream. Instead I bought her a ladies Tag Heuer watch that set me back $1800. Guess what? Two weeks later, she even had the audacity to ask me for my "scrotal facial cream treatment" again so that I could buy her another watch! Talk about feisty!

(By the way, there should be no feeling of obligation of the necessity to 'reward' your mistress in participating such 'kinky activities'. You give when you feel that she is deserving - on your terms!

I gave her the watch then because I have not fully imbibed the prinicples of empowerment then. Admitedly I did feel a little sense of obligation in this instance!

Whoa and Wow, factor of x100. Thats a 100% bitch for you to drive salvery sexually - ultimate domination, cum on face. Bravo Bravo, clap clap.

Incidentally, I have almost stopped going to TAM or LV. Nowadays, I am mostly doing my entertaining at Dynasty. Perhaps oneday, we should have a get-together, for all fun sake.

[justime]

Originally Posted by warbird

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I doubt that she will be back to work at KTVs here. She chose to leave Sat 18 July, 11 days prior to her visa expiration.

I hv her China HP n we hv exchanged SMSes. I'm beginning to miss her. I remember her puzzled facial expressions when I was having a dialog in Hokkien w/ two middle-aged men, both complete strangers, in a restaurant. We were talking abt her n she must hv vaguely sensed it. She looked demure n so very cute n pretty. I should hv kept her just for companionship.

Of course she will return as someone's mistress or er nai. I may want to be that someone when I come back in Nov (hopefully), haha. I'll need to arrange for suitable accommodation.

Good day!!

Hi warbird, I can literally imagine in my mind's eye what you meant when you said "she looked so demure n so very cute n pretty"! Got to say that JJ is a real gem.

Just a quick question: when will you be leaving Singapore? Coming back only in Nov? I am sure many bros here will miss you and your "sessions". Do PM or SMS me if you are organising a seesion for this week okay? I just cancelled an overseas trip and may have some time to finally meet you!

In order to help you forget JJ, I have a new recommendation. I have not heretofore shared in my thread but I have a Viet gal as well. And she is currently here n Singapore. Let me tell you that she has one of the most beautiful tits I carressed. Big, succulent and natural, fair with pink nips, all encased in a soft delicate skin. Sorry warbird, I will be having her (M is the name) for myself so I cannot do a handover to you. However, I heard that her younger sister is in town as well. I will introduce/recommend M's younger sister to you. Make it a double date (wow ... feels like I'm a teenager!). I have not met up with M's younger sis, but if genes are any indication, maybe you will be thanking me for some good mammaries / memories!

FYI they are not WL. And they are in their early 20's. Both are fair complexion but relatively short height wise. (Not my current flavour but what the heck - those are nice hooters!).

M by the way can speak Mandarin and Cantonese well enough for serious dialogue. Her younger sister is however not so proficient. More importantly for both of us - they are not averse to interacting with slightly more mature men!

If okay, SMS / PM me. I will contact M (and through her - her younger sis) to see if they are available to go "dating" this week. Together we can go makan (talking literally about food here) at either a Jap or Viet restuarent. Just a casual date (and see what takes off from there) - no need to talk about BY and all that!

Sorry to bring in yet another character in this thread. As they may be too many different characters already in this thread (which may confuse some readers), I will go easy with this storyline*.

* M and I do have some interesting story which I will narrate somewhere in this thread when espousing some principle.

Originally Posted by Loving_Dickhead

Incidentally, I have almost stopped going to TAM or LV. Nowadays, I am mostly doing my entertaining at Dynasty. Perhaps oneday, we should have a get-together, for all fun sake.

Hi LD, I feel like taking a short break from Havelock area joints and go to a place where the playability factor is higher. Just for a change of scene.

I am thinking of paying BS a long overdue re-visit (preferably during HH where the girls are more plentiful!)

I do find it harder to get friends to accompany me to the cheaper joints vis-a-vis the expensive ones.

(As I write this, I smiled at the recollection of Terrence's reaction - after overcoming his initial shock at the "mauling" he received from the aggressive BS babes in trying to sit table).

Only potential setback with this plan: from what I read in the BS thread, it appears that the 'action' now is very much reduced. Nonetheless, I am game for a BS session this week!

(Alternatively as a compromise, we can visit the newly renovated Kabuki. Haven't been there for ages - ever since my singer mistress 'broke up with me').

[warbird]

Originally Posted by justime

Hi warbird, I can literally imagine in my mind's eye what you meant when you said "she looked so demure n so very cute n pretty"! Got to say that JJ is a real gem.

Just a quick question: when will you be leaving Singapore? Coming back only in Nov? I am sure many bros here will miss you and your "sessions". Do PM or SMS me if you are organising a seesion for this week okay? I just cancelled an overseas trip and may have some time to finally meet you!

In order to help you forget JJ, I have a new recommendation. I have not heretofore shared in my thread but I have a Viet gal as well. And she is currently here n Singapore. Let me tell you that she has one of the most beautiful tits I carressed. Big, succulent and natural, fair with pink nips, all encased in a soft delicate skin. Sorry warbird, I will be having her (M is the name) for myself so I cannot do a handover to you. However, I heard that her younger sister is in town as well. I will introduce/recommend M's younger sister to you. Make it a double date (wow ... feels like I'm a teenager!). I have not met up with M's younger sis, but if genes are any indication, maybe you will be thanking me for some good mammaries / memories!

FYI they are not WL. And they are in their early 20's. Both are fair complexion but relatively short height wise. (Not my current flavour but what the heck - those are nice hooters!).

M by the way can speak Mandarin and Cantonese well enough for serious dialogue. Her younger sister is however not so proficient. More importantly for both of us - they are not averse to interacting with slightly more mature men!

If okay, SMS / PM me. I will contact M (and through her - her younger sis) to see if they are available to go "dating" this week. Together we can go makan (talking literally about food here) at either a Jap or Viet restuarent. Just a casual date (and see what takes off from there) - no need to talk about BY and all that!
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* M and I do have some interesting story which I will narrate somewhere in this thread when espousing some principle.
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Hi LD, I feel like taking a short break from Havelock area joints and go to a place where the playability factor is higher. Just for a change of scene.

I am thinking of paying BS a long overdue re-visit (preferably during HH where the girls are more plentiful!)

I do find it harder to get friends to accompany me to the cheaper joints vis-a-vis the expensive ones.
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Only potential setback with this plan: from what I read in the BS thread, it appears that the 'action' now is very much reduced. Nonetheless, I am game for a BS session this week!

(Alternatively as a compromise, we can visit the newly renovated Kabuki. Haven't been there for ages - ever since my singer mistress 'broke up with me').

Hi bro justime,

Yes, I'm most eager to meet u soon. I now let some younger bros do the organising of outings as I find it too taxing. Is HH or SH more convenient for u? Will sms u if I go.

I'll try to stay here until early Sep.

I'm really very flattered for ur willingness to intro M's younger sister. I hv quite a few quarries on my sight n probably can't add another one as I'm still constrained by time. It wouldn't do her justice.

BTW, I'm not averse to going to less expensive joints as I hv discovered some gems there before.

Cheers!

[justime]

Originally Posted by warbird

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I'm really very flattered for ur willingness to intro M's younger sister. I hv quite a few quarries on my sight n probably can't add another one as I'm still constrained by time. It wouldn't do her justice.

BTW, I'm not averse to going to less expensive joints as I hv discovered some gems there before.

Cheers!

Great talking to you warbird. As promised, I will give you hints of M's "quality" as below. I have to however reiterate that I have not met M's younger sister.

Apologies for this 'private' conversation, but not to worry I will 'contextualised' the below by narrating how I won her (as a 'gf' and not mistress). I can do the gf thingy as well in addition to being a consumate patron!

1) The vid is NOT of M, but of some random Chinese girl! BTW:

M’s move better than the SYT in the vid

2) This is the only picture I have of M without her face showing, taken from my crap piece of Nokia handphone. You can meet the real thing (clothed of course!)

BTW I am NOT a collector of pics and vids (Learnt from Edison's experience) just a token few for keepsake.

[ansonsohna]

wow bro justime, just wow. u really got a handfull there.

[Gentle Beast]

Originally Posted by justime

It is difficult to suggest the type of gifts in the absence of key information. Like for how may persons you are buying for, male/female, age group, budget. Once I have this information, I will be in a better position to recommend.

For gifts buying I usually rely on my PA (even for those of my gf and mistress). Unless it’s a deliberate gift buying strategy to win over a ladies heart or capture that elusive biz deal – I hardly do my own “shopping”.

Hi Justime

Again, I want to thank you for taking time to share your thoughts and feedback even it is on a subject about gifts. I shall not stray the this thread away from its main tone on 'Mistresses'.

With best wishes, GB

[warbird]

Originally Posted by justime

Great talking to you warbird. As promised, I will give you hints of M's "quality" as below. I have to however reiterate that I have not met M's younger sister.

Apologies for this 'private' conversation, but not to worry I will 'contextualised' the below by narrating how I won her (as a 'gf' and not mistress). I can do the gf thingy as well in addition to being a consumate patron!

1) The vid is NOT of M, but of some random Chinese girl! BTW:

M’s move better than the SYT in the vid

2) This is the only picture I have of M without her face showing, taken from my crap piece of Nokia handphone. You can meet the real thing (clothed of course!)

BTW I am NOT a collector of pics and vids (Learnt from Edison's experience) just a token few for keepsake.

Hi bro justime,

Pleasure was all mine bro. I hv benefited from reading ur posts. You're very erudite n ur command of the English language is exceptional.

Wow! M is certainly a SYT who is quite well endowed. I would like to meet her n her sis at their convenience, haha.

I eagerly await ur narrative on how u managed to hook up w/ M.

Have a great day!!

[wolf2305]

Originally Posted by justime

More house keeping time:

In the interest of readers who want to come up with a Brainstorming idea, I shall share a business technique that the “Mistress Brotherhood” uses periodically. In this thread, I shall structure the technique under the guise of “thread house cleaning” and “fun” and will not elaborate on the mechanics/ techniques of it. Know however it is really a very powerful business and thinking tool. For readers that are able to intuit or understand its underlying premise, I betcha that it is really worth its weight in gold!

There are now around four pages of this thread. I had assumed that readers would have got most of the concepts and general purport of what I am trying to communicate therein. Based on the facts presented, I also assumed that everyone would be on the same page when certain inferences is called for. My assumption could be wrong. Some readers might not get it – even clearly obvious ones (e.g. Jus is one of the protagonist of the story as well as the Tread Starter of this “Mistress” thread).

I shall therefore call the following pointers “Its bladdy obvious that….. “

Hua and Terrence use the terminology differently. They call it: (insert expletive) obvious!

1) It is bladdy obvious that Hua, Terrence and Mike are not your ‘everyman’ and that they are relatively successful in terms of their career, business and wealth. They may not be Li Ka Shing (or even Ong Beng Send rich), but they would largely constitute “upper strata” in terms of income and position.

2) Its is bladdy obvious that Jus thinks the techniques employed by the Mistress Brotherhood can shared, learned and applied not only to “Upper Strata” but that the concepts can be distilled and translated across to many people with different financial and social standing.

3) It is bladdy obvious that the “Mistress Brotherhood” lives does not revolve around the KTV.

4) It is also bladdy obvious that the WL discussed is largely from China and that they are working at a KTV establishment in Singapore.

5) It is bladdy obvious that Hua, Terrence, Mike and Jus are not well blessed in the “looks” department. It is also bladdy obvious that they have the self confidence that their other attributes more than compensates for the lack of personal aesthetics.

6) It bladdy obvious that the protagonist know how to and have applied the MasterStrokes for their personal satisfaction.

7) It is bladdy obvious that the protagonist can forward plan and knows how to influence outcomes.

(As an aside: Even in the simple writing of this thread Jus knows the intended ending he wants. After imparting his masterstrokes and concepts, Jus will invite/recruit a volunteer on a field trip whereby he will personally mentor him to be a Patron in the fine art of keeping a mistress. His mentee will then blog the learning experiences and/or continue with the thread (if he desires), thereby leaving Jus to exit the scene.

8) It is bladdy obvious that there is an element of Power Play in the male-female interactions. This all the more apparent in the Patron based mistress relationship.

9) It is bladdy obvious that the Patron must the dominant one in the above relationship.


Followers of the thread, I would hereby like to invite you to join in the “bladdy obvious" game ……..

you may also start on ..."Its however not so obvious"

Bro JS, how do we sign up as mentee?

[Loving_Dickhead]

Originally Posted by justime

Hi LD, I feel like taking a short break from Havelock area joints and go to a place where the playability factor is higher. Just for a change of scene.

I am thinking of paying BS a long overdue re-visit (preferably during HH where the girls are more plentiful!)

I do find it harder to get friends to accompany me to the cheaper joints vis-a-vis the expensive ones.

(As I write this, I smiled at the recollection of Terrence's reaction - after overcoming his initial shock at the "mauling" he received from the aggressive BS babes in trying to sit table).

Only potential setback with this plan: from what I read in the BS thread, it appears that the 'action' now is very much reduced. Nonetheless, I am game for a BS session this week!

(Alternatively as a compromise, we can visit the newly renovated Kabuki. Haven't been there for ages - ever since my singer mistress 'broke up with me').

Hi bro Justime,

I am having a go at Dynasty this Thursday (tomorrow, 23 July 2009), first session a.k.a Morning Session at 6:30pm. If you have interest to join me, PM me.

[formidable]

Extract from Net:Economics n Psychology of Commercial Sex.
A pros is like renting a car.
A mistress is like buying a car.

Diff is in the expenses involved and the way you treat the car.
We can afford to own a cherry or hyundai but not Mercedes 500 limo ; we can only rent it a day or week.

With a mistress, u can have natural sex with her, as natural as the birds and bees.
With a pros, she normally won't wet kiss u, insist u bathe n put on condom before u make love. Meanwhile u r restraint from doing cunnilingus on her becos of hygiene factors. U must bathe,payup and leave the room after hour is up. Most of the time, you can't sleep overnite with her after sex.

Not many men can afford a mistress.

When I talk of pros and mistress, I refer to woman who r much younger and beautiful than the wife tat one can confidently court.
It's no point renting a KIA compact when u urself own a BMW700.
In this case, u will get ur kicks when u rent a Rolls Royce or a Lincoln stretched limo.

Just a quote of the day...

[justime]

Originally Posted by formidable

Extract from Net:Economics n Psychology of Commercial Sex.
A pros is like renting a car.
A mistress is like buying a car.

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With a mistress, u can have natural sex with her, as natural as the birds and bees.
With a pros, she normally won't wet kiss u, insist u bathe n put on condom before u make love. Meanwhile u r restraint from doing cunnilingus on her becos of hygiene factors. U must bathe,payup and leave the room after hour is up. Most of the time, you can't sleep overnite with her after sex.

Not many men can afford a mistress.

When I talk of pros and mistress, I refer to woman who r much younger and beautiful than the wife tat one can confidently court.
It's no point renting a KIA compact when u urself own a BMW700.
In this case, u will get ur kicks when u rent a Rolls Royce or a Lincoln stretched limo.

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Hi Bro Formidable, this is an excellent extract. Thank you for sharing this with us all!

There are key differences between Mistress, Girlfriend and pros! The essence of a Mistress is a hybraid between the Girl-friend and Pros. If you apply the right strategies, you will get the best of both these worlds (while minimizing the 'bad').

Also I do apologise for not posting and updating this thread for a couple of days. Mentally fatiqued.

In addition, besides work, I have also been busy in the KTV trenches: in the last three days, I have visited 4 KTV: Mirage (less than an hour - I finally met with bro Warbird and Do You BJ!), Macau, New Shanghai, Jade and Sandborn.

Best of the lot; according to my perception is Macau.

Have to be fair to Mirage though - my time there was too short for any substantial findings. And some girls look quite appealing on a quick scan basis.

BTW Bro Do You BJ is quite in his element at the KTV. (DYBJ: Thanks for the intro of mms (esp the assistant, A)- I really like her style. I also like your style!)

That being said, there are plentiful of events happening on the Reality Blog front. I will try to overcome my inertia and post soon! (And this post is written between shots with XH who will be leaving for China for about two months from this weekend.)

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by justime

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BTW Bro Do You BJ is quite in his element at the KTV. (DYBJ: Thanks for the intro of mms (esp the assistant, A)- I really like her style. I also like your style!)

Hi Bro Jus, aint everyday that I'm honoured to meet a MISTRESS Guru like yourself.
For you to appear for just 1 hour already give me alot of face liao
Like you said, your 1st wife expenses already kill my 3wives hands down...this I really salute you......my wives make money for me, whereas you make money for your wife....you're really my idol.....
Can I be your disciple pls pls pls hehehehehehe