How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[warbird]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

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Regardless, to you, the 1st and foremost thing that MUST happen is that you 2 click. This will already set the conditions and stage for the kill.

Next, they'll use either 希望计 or 同情计 to reel in you in.
This is the test water phase for them on you.
After that, once they feel you're on the hook, the 感情计 will ensue.
If you really read back or have personally gone thru or have friends who have gone through this storm, it's always the same.
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If you read this for the 1st time, take heed, use this like a sutra and you'll survive, but if you're being KCed rite now, let this serve as a wake up call......cos in the end, the one who will be too ashamed to even surface again, trust me, will be no other than yourself!

Hi bro,

Thx, I shall use ur advice like a sutra.

I also try to remember the famous quote by Dr. Robert Anthony, “The one who loves (or cares) the least, controls the relationship.”

It doesn't matter who the ger is or what our RS is, if I'm the one who loves or cares less, I'll control the RS. I must be prepared to walk out if she displeases me or demands too much or...otherwise I'll become a carrot head, hahaha.

Cheers!

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

同情计 is one of the most common tactics used.
They'll give you 1001 sad stories, owe who money la, husband, father or mom gamble owe money big time, kenna cheated till no choice must come here...then, as I'm sure many have experienced, the ROBIN HOOD in you will come forward, dun worry, your knight in shining armour has arrived.........DUMB
Once you fall into this, the 希望计will come in...u will think that she must really be indebted to you thus will also by now, think you're a damn nice reliable guy and thus plant her seeds of love in you.....but that's when they start digging liao
After this stage, the 感情计 will set in...namely after 2 person have been together for sometime liao
This one, though tactical, the appetite will increase plus knowing that you already kenna smitten by them, its no holds barred.............

Viet style
1) 希望计 - give you the impression that you are their only special one. Not a customer to them but a friend and can develope further
2) 感情计 - tell you that they have fallen in love with you deeply and all the 'em yeu anh', 'em nho anh' sms comes in.. starts to show you alot of concern and give whatever you want. Make you feel you are really the special one.
3) 同情计 - starts to tell you their hardship, sad story, etc to let you feel sorry for them. this is when the $$$$ starts.


My tactic to KC the viet WL
1) 感情计 - show them that you love them madly. Always call and look for them. Ask them out. Have fun with them.
2) 同情计 - show concern to them. Bring them out to beach when they are sad. Listen to them.
3) 希望计 - paint a nice picture of the future if they are with me.

target hooked, crush it and move on to next
My method is only for those bro who got alot of time to spare. Not recommended for married men

But now I am really stuck at stage 1 with this viet gal...

[et911]

Very interesting thread.

Glad so many bros come out to share their experiences. Thumbs up.

[et911]

Got a very interesting sms from an FL (am sure some bros who had patronized her would have gotten it too). Here is goes:

中国女人 - 没良心
面对男人 - 不专心
又要钞票 - 又要金
满口老公 - 哄开心
有钱搞到 - 你出精
没钱就说 - 来月经
骗了金钱 - 又骗金
人财两空 - 脸青青
只怪自己 - 不够精 (I would replace this with 不够金)
你说伤心 - 不伤心
请你一定 - 要小心

Take care bros!

[warbird]

An Ang Mo RS n sex guru gives the following advice as how to get n keep gers/women.

Be dominant n passionate, not wussy n obsessive/needy.

Let me quote him:

"If you look at a woman and think, 'I must have sex with her' you are actually GIVING UP YOUR POWER before you even meet!

This 'adolescent' attitude actually scares women away… and I recommend you make a conscious effort to avoid it.

When you see an attractive woman you’d like to meet, instead of thinking about what she can do for you, start thinking about the fact that you know how to make her feel incredibly good… and how CRAZY she would be to pass up this opportunity.

Women will instantly pick up on this powerful attitude, and it will come across in everything you do."

He then lists 4 things every woman is craving from a man, but very few of them will ever be fulfiled.

"1. She needs to feel appreciated for the unique individual she is… and that her man supports her in all she does

2. She needs to feel a deep, emotional, intimate connection

3. She needs to feel like a sexy, beautiful, feminine woman

4. She needs hot, passionate sex… which includes being seduced, teased and satisfied over and over again… and exploring new roles and fantasies.

Give her these four things and she’ll be yours for as long as you like.

It’s ok to let a woman know how much you appreciate her, so long as you don’t come from a position of NEEDINESS.

Needy guys pour it on too thick.

They put women on pedestals.

And, as you know… nothing drives a woman away faster.

A woman wants to be with a man who is strong, has his own life, and doesn’t NEED her.

If you come from a position of STRENGTH, compliments and appreciation will light up a woman’s life… because you will be giving them in a way that makes her feel MORE attracted to you.

So remember… she wants to be APPRECIATED… but not NEEDED."

IMHO, he is right!

Cheers!

[colins]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

Viet style
My tactic to KC the viet WL
1) 感情计 - show them that you love them madly. Always call and look for them. Ask them out. Have fun with them.
2) 同情计 - show concern to them. Bring them out to beach when they are sad. Listen to them.
3) 希望计 - paint a nice picture of the future if they are with me.

target hooked, crush it and move on to next
My method is only for those bro who got alot of time to spare. Not recommended for married men

But now I am really stuck at stage 1 with this viet gal...

Hahahahaha....bro you damn funny. Take care take care.

[fukingu]

A PRC who works in a massage parlour shared her views with me.

She said most girls like her come to SG just to make money, not to fall in love. Ultimately, what they want is to retire with their pot of gold in China - whether that pot of gold is through their hard labour or through a Robert's donations doesn't matter to them - settle in their hometown or obscure parts of China where people don't know their prior profession, and marry a guy who doesn't know too, and then start a family.

From her comments, they are cognizant they face future quarrels over self-esteem and their chicken job if they were to marry men who know they are chickens, so why would they want to do that ?

She had a Malaysian bf working in SG and they quarelled because she found condoms in his briefcase before he flew to China. She of course was mad. The guy of course cunningly used this line," having condoms doesn't mean I will use them, just like not having condoms doesn't mean I wont buy them in China and use them."

What he doesn't know - or maybe choose to ignore - is that she wants him all to herself sexually, probably to safeguard this golden hen, while she fxxks other men non-exclusively, an insignificant case of double standards perhaps.

Actually why do we want to KC a WL ? There is an implicit act of hurting someone's heart if you wish to KC a WL. Why do we wanna KC her then : To get free sex ? To stroke our male ego ? To provide a distraction from our stressful, mundane jobs and lives ?

Why spend so much effort, mind grinding and time to out-wit and hurt them ?

Sex is never free. For our gfs and wives, we have to invest time, effort and money to charm before we get get into their skirts. For the WLs, to KC them, we also need to spend time and effort, so in the end, is there really satisfaction in knowing we manage to get free sex from her ?

They are money grubbing, no doubt, but if we just pay and play, dont fall into their KC traps by giving them the "been there, done that" message, and the "i'm ok, you're ok," pitch, both parties can walk away without ever feeling bad.

[fukingu]

The below is a story that is relevant here. For full details, it is also posted in Adult Talk about Sex under thread called " FukingU's excerpts from Whispers and Moans."

Hope for bros to up me for my effort, thanks in advance.

Geoff, a large bluff Australian in his 60s, was divorced 18 yrs ago and has moved around Asia Pacific on civil engineering projects.

" Here I am, not much to look at and getting on a bit. (sidenote : I like his honesty ) Life is short and I've got no real roots or family. I've never had much success with women when I was younger, so in the last few years I've decided to make the most of things while I've still got my health.

" I've tried girls everywhere I've been. These days i wouldn't give you two cents for a Chinese tart. Either they try to play the innocent girlish type, or they try to play on your sympathy, or they are very matter of fact and make no effort at all ( sidenote : this dumb aussie can't make up his mind what he wants from paid sex: gf feeling, just play n play or a wife ).

" The sex is crap. They either lie there like a wet lettuce leaf or they scream and thrash about - making out they've never had it so good ( sidenote : this is interesting reference for SG guys who's been KC before ).

" The acting's so bad I dunno whether I should be more embarrassed for myself or them......

" Chinese women dont seem to understand that half world's population has got pussy, and theirs is not the only one on offer. They think they are sitting on Fort Knox.... ...

" Chinese girls can be very good, very slim. If you like the play-acting and the Lolita thing, or the stone-hearted bitch act, or the ' I'm a poor thing, pay me more because of my sick mother' story, or the 'you're so lucky my pants are off' attitude, then go for it. "

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by fukingu

Hope for bros to up me for my effort, thanks in advance.

I have zapped you for this statement.
This is not the point grabbing section of this forum
As per your earlier post, you dun seem to understand the basic reason for KC and thus come in here wif something an ozzy said, though he has his rights for his views.
One day, when you cheong longer, you'll understand the basis of KC, trust me, seasoned players can afford to call more pussies that they can fuck but KC will be the thing that drives them...not the pussy!
One day, you'll know!

[ManInCheong]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

One day, when you cheong longer, you'll understand the basis of KC, trust me, seasoned players can afford to call more pussies that they can fuck but KC will be the thing that drives them...not the pussy!
One day, you'll know!

agreed with both hand and didi up
Amateurs play the body, pro play the mind

[Panamera]

Originally Posted by fukingu

The below is a story that is relevant here. For full details, it is also posted in Adult Talk about Sex under thread called " FukingU's excerpts from Whispers and Moans."

Hope for bros to up me for my effort, thanks in advance.

Matters of the Hearts section is about sincere heart to help trouble bros, please don't come here asking for points.

[tanterry]

Just ask any wl. who wants to be a ghost in their entire life?

Somehow there would be weakness somewhere. hoping to get back to shore means no one is immune. In this KC game, who will be the last one standing, will be the winner

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by et911

Got a very interesting sms from an FL (am sure some bros who had patronized her would have gotten it too). Here is goes:

中国女人 - 没良心
面对男人 - 不专心
又要钞票 - 又要金
满口老公 - 哄开心
有钱搞到 - 你出精
没钱就说 - 来月经
骗了金钱 - 又骗金
人财两空 - 脸青青
只怪自己 - 不够精 (I would replace this with 不够金)
你说伤心 - 不伤心
请你一定 - 要小心

Take care bros!

True... 老公 is so over-used and to them, it can mean boyfriend or simply nothing

KC is a state of mind - like poker where the mind rules over skills...Having the knowledge for KC but not the heart will still make you the student and not the master

I dun have the heart to practise what I know so hahahaha.. that is why i keep getting into "corners"

老公老公老公老公老公... hahahahaha... does it really mean anything

[FL Lover]

Originally Posted by aczeta76

True... 老公 is so over-used and to them, it can mean boyfriend or simply nothing

KC is a state of mind - like poker where the mind rules over skills...Having the knowledge for KC but not the heart will still make you the student and not the master

I dun have the heart to practise what I know so hahahaha.. that is why i keep getting into "corners"

老公老公老公老公老公... hahahahaha... does it really mean anything

老公老公老公老公老公 will never mean anything until the day u ROM with her.

Other than that, just take it as part of kc process. Listen with your heart closed and you will be good n kicking after the process. Listen with your heart opened to all these sweet talks, good luck loh.

[juzplay]

Originally Posted by FL Lover

老公老公老公老公老公 will never mean anything until the day u ROM with her.

Other than that, just take it as part of kc process. Listen with your heart closed and you will be good n kicking after the process. Listen with your heart opened to all these sweet talks, good luck loh.

ROM will also not mean anything lah..

Bro ac, u thinking of your ZH GF??? Or