My Fillial Daughter

[Snuber]

Originally Posted by DNAT

I believe Montbank is saying most (not all) WL only see $$$.

Speaking of which, this reminds me of an encounter last year when I chatted with a WL.

Has a steady SG bf who is giving her $20k baht per month. She is staying in Bkk while family stayed in CR. Knew her bf at the MP & she is known to have quit the scene 2 years ago. Now working behind his back. I asked her how come she still needs to work when she has a monthly income from him & it's nota small amount. She told me she spends alot, but also pitied & loves him as well. But while saying, noticed that she still manages to smile & feel abit pai seh.

Which sets me wondering, if a TG really loves a guy, would she be able to quit the scene & settle for something simpler almost immediately? Or would she work & save up first?? Both assuming that there are no or not much problems at home?

I dunno, but I just feel she just loves him as a lip service.

Comments?

[TooFast]

Originally Posted by Snuber

Knew her bf at the MP & she is known to have quit the scene 2 years ago. Now working behind his back. I asked her how come she still needs to work when she has a monthly income from him & it's nota small amount. She told me she spends alot, but also pitied & loves him as well. But while saying, noticed that she still manages to smile & feel abit pai seh.

The BF doesn't know Would she quit if the bf give 50k instead ??
Or does she think that this SG guy thinks like a pichaii.

I'm done guessing what they are thinking.

Maybe should put them through the lying machine to see if they are really lying or not.(In case you dunno what the lying machine is...haha I also dunno how to describe but if you got watch meet my folks, you will know what I mean).

But seriously, that guy deserves to know the truth.

[free]

Originally Posted by Snuber

Which sets me wondering, if a TG really loves a guy, would she be able to quit the scene & settle for something simpler almost immediately? Or would she work & save up first?? Both assuming that there are no or not much problems at home?

I dunno, but I just feel she just loves him as a lip service.

Comments?

I personally know of one case in Hatyai where this WL really loves her bf (my friend and her 1st serious bf) and gave up her job completely. She need not earn a lot of money as her needs are simple. Dun shop a lot, don't drink or smoke. Hardly even parties. She is now gone back stay with her mum in BKK. Accepted a much lower standard of living in the process. We keep in touch often (nong/pii relationship) and I often was called upon to be their translator until they found a better medium of communication - English. Her written English is pretty good, although she does speak much.

So there is at least one exception - not many perhaps, but they do exist.

[TooFast]

Bro Free, why is it that your story sounds so...perfect ah? In fact a bit too perfect...

[free]

Originally Posted by TooFast

Bro Free, why is it that your story sounds so...perfect ah? In fact a bit too perfect...

It is not my story. It happens to be the story between a guy from across the causeway and his tirak. I happen to talk to this guy about once a week and my nong, a little more often. Still recalled how initially he could not believe she wrote all those sms'ses, and thought I taught her. Actually all I did was to encourage her to try smsing of she finds hit hard to speak her heart out to him, as he likes to sms.

In fact she is currently trying to help me sort out my problem of choices, from a woman's perspective.

Seems perfect? Far from it. It is not easy for both parties, as each will face their own set of problems. But as long as they have the will, I am sure they can find away.

Perhaps the kind of ppl we meet and also are attracted to (not necessary love between a B&G) also plays a part. She has plenty of prettier and sexier ex-colleagues, but none of them can hold my attention like she did. Not as a tirak (never even been her customer), but as a Nong. I got enough tirak problems as it is already. Don't want to add yet another heart to the equations.

[Hakoshu]

Bro free, i had one in hadyai too.. She does almost the same thing to me but due to the family committement, she can't afford to quit her job.. Tat is indeed a very sad thing..

Doubting is so miserable.. i rather to believe not to doubt.. Too bad my heart is not with her...

[Snuber]

Originally Posted by Hakoshu

She does almost the same thing to me but due to the family committement, she can't afford to quit her job.. Tat is indeed a very sad thing..

Can imagine the pain that you felt the other time.

Have you ever wondered if it's a need or a want based on what the family commitments are?

[Hakoshu]

Its more of a "need" for the family demands.. Siblings still young and house needs repairs cos roof would leak when rain.. This is how poor tat they can get.. No matter its "want" or "need" for the family comfort.. The daughter would always try their best to fulfil it regardless of wat job they are holding as long as the job can give them enough money to upkeep everything...

To my girl, Her family matters more than anything else.. She told me, i must love her family too after i'm with her... I guess its all in their upbringing..

Originally Posted by Snuber

Have you ever wondered if it's a need or a want based on what the family commitments are?

[Mr.romance]

Originally Posted by naemlo

U nothing to do right?? How?? end of the mth BKK???

Ooops we TCSS on Siamcuteys thread. So shall we move on to other thread?
Maybe I shall just PM u lah...

[Snuber]

Originally Posted by Hakoshu

To my girl, Her family matters more than anything else.. She told me, i must love her family too after i'm with her... I guess its all in their upbringing..

It's more on the Asian upbringing values. I believe you have many times that if you marry a TG, you are marrying her entire family as well.

Sometimes, you will just feel frustrated that why does your girl put her family interests before you everytime, even when you offer good advice. Have you ever wondered where are you placed in her heart?

For me, I just feel that I'm always the last person. Which probably explains alot why plans to work things out often falls on deaf ears.

[Hakoshu]

Yes, agree totally.. No pt forcing them either... So normally i would respect their decision.. And i would always treat their parents like my own..

Originally Posted by Snuber

For me, I just feel that I'm always the last person. Which probably explains alot why plans to work things out often falls on deaf ears.

[Sinoview]

Originally Posted by free

It is not my story. It happens to be the story between a guy from across the causeway and his tirak. I happen to talk to this guy about once a week and my nong, a little more often. Still recalled how initially he could not believe she wrote all those sms'ses, and thought I taught her. Actually all I did was to encourage her to try smsing of she finds hit hard to speak her heart out to him, as he likes to sms.

In fact she is currently trying to help me sort out my problem of choices, from a woman's perspective.

Seems perfect? Far from it. It is not easy for both parties, as each will face their own set of problems. But as long as they have the will, I am sure they can find away.

Perhaps the kind of ppl we meet and also are attracted to (not necessary love between a B&G) also plays a part. She has plenty of prettier and sexier ex-colleagues, but none of them can hold my attention like she did. Not as a tirak (never even been her customer), but as a Nong. I got enough tirak problems as it is already. Don't want to add yet another heart to the equations.

How about you come to reality...and see there are also many not so good "ladies" around ?

Optimistic is good...but reality and facing the real world is better....

[free]

Originally Posted by Hakoshu

To my girl, Her family matters more than anything else.. She told me, i must love her family too after i'm with her... I guess its all in their upbringing..

That goes without saying for a TG. Even if you 2 love each other very much and are in the process of moving towards a more permanent r/s, it would still be very hard for her to marry you if you cannot love her family, or at least accept them. Even if you may not like specific members of family, you still cannot reject them.

In my case, I really dun like my tirak's eldest sister and I simply put up with her so as not to make things difficult for my tirak. Not accepting her would put my gal in a position where she would not know how to react. On the other hand, I got on real well with her other elder sister (and her husband) and as 2 couples we are always there for other. This difference in behaviour make her realise that the problem lies not with me but her eldest sister, and by my accepting the sis as part of her family, it was good enough for my tirak. Over time, her eldest sis has gradually lose hold over my gal as she chose to listen to me, instead of listening blindly to her eldest sis. She could see where we are heading and ultimately I am the one she wants to be with, not her sis (who will probably get married and have her own family anyway).

Also, while I am pretty close to her mum, I specifically avoid her dad (who has re-married another) as he had tried to marry her off to his friend's son, even though he is aware of my existence in his daughter's life. I am glad my tirak chose to disobey and the relationship between her and dad is now not too good. Irregardless. I have to accept that he is still her dad, and therefore not say much about him that would tantamount to be insulting him, as she will be hurt even though she agrees her dad was selfish. Even so, she wants to think that he was doing it for what he thought was for her own good (even if that was not what she wants for herself), and once he is finally convinced that I am good for her, he will welcome me with open arms. Anyway we do not need his consent as her grandmother is her "authority" so there is nothing to stop us from progressing further


Such is the way the TG sees her family, irregardless of their occupation.

[free]

Originally Posted by Sinoview

How about you come to reality...and see there are also many not so good "ladies" around ?

Optimistic is good...but reality and facing the real world is better....

My friend, I am not blind to the "not-so-good" ladies & have never said that they dun exist. I've met many myself and simply accept them as acquintainces or casual friends - nothing more. Perhaps one big difference. Maybe you met them at their work place. I meet with them at gatherings with mutual friends, even at their homes (or rented rooms). Guess who will get to know their true self better? They know I do not despice them and they are each an individual in my eyes. I am simply mindful of how it will affect my tirak if I am consistently in the company of these women, so I stay away unless it is necessary for me to interact with them.

In fact I think that depending on where you are and chose to camp in, they may even outnumber the "good ones". Take note of the difference in the way I used the quotation marks (" ") versus yours. For I believe whole-heartedly that in the midst of the "not-so-good" ladies, are some with very good character and would make wonderful partners. A couple of these, I am close to them enough to call "Nong saos" and they call me "Pi-Chai" - in the true sense of the would (no hankyu panky). Perhaps it is their environment that caused them to accept their working as WLs. Right or wrong, it is not for me to say. It depends how where your frame of mind is.

What a Difference the Frame of Mind makes.
For example, I used to buy flowers from a sweet 7-year gal when I visit a particular pub in Ratchada to give to the lady of my choice. Many customers actually waited for her to come before buying their flowers (and reject other vendors) simply cos we liked her! I even bought her a big teddy bear once cos she was really so cute. And her mum thinks the world of her, as she could sell more flowers than her parents (and still do well in school), and thus contributed significantly to the family income. Yet quite a few of my farang friends think that we are helping to exploit child labor, irregardless of whether the gal was enjoying it or not. Couldn't be further away friom the truth, but these farangs, who never knew hardship (nor what it is like to go to bed hungry cos there was no money to buy food - I've been there too ), could never accept my point of view. To them, a 7 yr old kid having to sell flowers in a pub area? That is Child Labor, period.

[free]

Originally Posted by free

I meet with them at gatherings with mutual friends, even at their homes (or rented rooms)....

BTW, I can tell you that many of these ladies look far more enticing/seductive at home in their casual Tees/singlets (bra-less ) with shorts so short sometime one cannot find them haha, or sexy lingeries than when they are all-dolled up at their work place. Sitting (or lying of closer) around together on their beds (if their room is small) or eating/drinking/joking/laughing together on the floor/sofa whatever is a lot more interesting to me.

Like Bro SC said, once you get past a certain point, bonking for its own sake has lost its charm/fun. One prefers to get into the minds of these ppl.