Hi Sadfa, yes i can feel that she is working on this plan.
As mentioned in my previous mail, "dont want to mess with her anymore" will be a bit hurt for me, anyway, there are still feeling in between. See how its goes, have to try to control my feeling........
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bro, i thought u gave her the digital camera? how can u ask it back?
anyway all these plans r very common, laying the guilt trip etc etc. u make use of me, u dont love me anymore blah blah blah.
sooner or later she will meet u to collect the money, even if its lesser than what she expects. unless she genuinely love u and u reciprocate 2 her, then different story.
what u mean by the relationship become worse now?
btw u sms 2 her when she is in china and she sms u back? isnt that very expensive?
anyway got prc charbor sms me 10 times a day also and then no news and after that continue again. she just needs the money and want 2 lay the gam cheng trap. but i not that attracted to her or gian her.
to each his own, i guess. stay cool. dont mistreat her and u wont feel guilty. see her in mg can also hold your head high.
Thanks for the concern and advice.
you could be right, she is slowly drifting away from me, use to be 10 sms per day and now one or none.
some background,
- know her in June, in MG, 2 days left before she need to go back to China. We went out for dinner the next day and we share lots of thoughts and send her to airport the day after, (no bonking) give her a digital camera as requested inorder for her to take pics when she is there.
- She is back in her home town for 3 weeks, she sms a least 10 sms per day to update each other. telling me how she spend time over there. for me vice-versa. (love and concern sms to maintain good relationship.)
When she is back, she brought local chinese food for me, ofcause have 2 overnights (mentioned perviously)but ...........
Anyway as human we have "feeling", really dont feel good after seeing the relationship becoming worst. maybe now, she dont feel anything already.
Thanks again.
bro, it seems like the initial stage, u hv a comfortable r/ship wif the gal. everything is very lovey , like she sms u 10 times daily (my former gf at MG din even do tat). buying things from her hometown (this is common, as my gals used to bring back stuff for me). correct me if i am wrong, it seems like u have develop a feeling for her.
let me relate wat happen between me and my former MG gal. i noe her last year mar, and went quite a no. of short time wif her, slowly i develop some feeling for her. i even go to the extend of going to MG 3-4 times weekly jus to see her during her stay of 1 mth, b4 she go back to China, i bring her to makan, buy hp for her and even send her to airport. things are going well, until months later, she starts pestering me for $ and remitting money to her. in oct, she came back to singapore,even though i had strongly discourage her. she came on 1 yr professional visa, she told me she worry about not be able to recoup the $ she threw into the visa (S$6k), i told her if she willing to quit the KTV scene, i will pay on her behalf, she agrees. so i took part of my savings to pay for her visa, she still continued to work, some more after MG, she will go over to Club Ego and work till 3 am, this time i was pissed and asked her y the hell she need to work and why she broken all the promises, she told me her objective to come to singapore is to earn and repay debts in china. i ask how much, she told me 40k RMB (S$8k), i say ok, i will help u one more time, and u better promised me not to work again, she say she dun wan to give me empty promises, and claimed she will oni work twice weekly after her debt is settled. i relent and agreed to tat. after i settle her debt, she go back during CNY period, i told her to rest longer at home. she refused and is back in singapore in 3 weeks time, i told her whether she remember our promises, tat after i repay her debt, she will work oni twice per week, she angrily told me off, saying dun lay down terms and conditions to her. she continued to work. sometime during the sad hour, she cannot get any "tai", she will call me and say, "jin tian mei tai zuo, y dun i accompany u, u tip me 150". i reply, i your bf, still need to pay u, but in the end i relent. this continued for 14 days out of the 28 days she is in singapore. even come down to MG (the nxt door coffeeshop) to eat dinner wif her, still need to tip her. this is unbelievable and i was so STUPID to do it! this carry on wif her digging more and more $ from me. the last time, she's back, she requested S$10k from me, i agreed, saying u give me some time and i will settle the issue for her, but at the meantime she must not go work (as tat time rumors about raid going to take place). she did'nt heed my advice, she choose to work the next day, and it was a fateful day, she was caught and depoted back. from then on, i told myself i dunwan to have any dealing wif her anymore. b'cos of her i quarrel wif my family, b'cos of her my family was almost torn apart.
so bro, once u see a gal starts to demand things from u, and never keep their promises, it's time for u to stay away.....there are too many gals ard.
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bro, it seems like the initial stage, u hv a comfortable r/ship wif the gal. everything is very lovey , like she sms u 10 times daily (my former gf at MG din even do tat). buying things from her hometown (this is common, as my gals used to bring back stuff for me). correct me if i am wrong, it seems like u have develop a feeling for her.
let me relate wat happen between me and my former MG gal. i noe her last year mar, and went quite a no. of short time wif her, slowly i develop some feeling for her. i even go to the extend of going to MG 3-4 times weekly jus to see her during her stay of 1 mth, b4 she go back to China, i bring her to makan, buy hp for her and even send her to airport. things are going well, until months later, she starts pestering me for $ and remitting money to her. in oct, she came back to singapore,even though i had strongly discourage her. she came on 1 yr professional visa, she told me she worry about not be able to recoup the $ she threw into the visa (S$6k), i told her if she willing to quit the KTV scene, i will pay on her behalf, she agrees. so i took part of my savings to pay for her visa, she still continued to work, some more after MG, she will go over to Club Ego and work till 3 am, this time i was pissed and asked her y the hell she need to work and why she broken all the promises, she told me her objective to come to singapore is to earn and repay debts in china. i ask how much, she told me 40k RMB (S$8k), i say ok, i will help u one more time, and u better promised me not to work again, she say she dun wan to give me empty promises, and claimed she will oni work twice weekly after her debt is settled. i relent and agreed to tat. after i settle her debt, she go back during CNY period, i told her to rest longer at home. she refused and is back in singapore in 3 weeks time, i told her whether she remember our promises, tat after i repay her debt, she will work oni twice per week, she angrily told me off, saying dun lay down terms and conditions to her. she continued to work. sometime during the sad hour, she cannot get any "tai", she will call me and say, "jin tian mei tai zuo, y dun i accompany u, u tip me 150". i reply, i your bf, still need to pay u, but in the end i relent. this continued for 14 days out of the 28 days she is in singapore. even come down to MG (the nxt door coffeeshop) to eat dinner wif her, still need to tip her. this is unbelievable and i was so STUPID to do it! this carry on wif her digging more and more $ from me. the last time, she's back, she requested S$10k from me, i agreed, saying u give me some time and i will settle the issue for her, but at the meantime she must not go work (as tat time rumors about raid going to take place). she did'nt heed my advice, she choose to work the next day, and it was a fateful day, she was caught and depoted back. from then on, i told myself i dunwan to have any dealing wif her anymore. b'cos of her i quarrel wif my family, b'cos of her my family was almost torn apart.
so bro, once u see a gal starts to demand things from u, and never keep their promises, it's time for u to stay away.....there are too many gals ard.
Yes, i might be in the developing stage with her. sometimes is hard to control not to be. anyway, she is leaving soon on 28 aug, was told that she will not extending the visa by going in/out malaysia (who knows), direct back to China.
Bros, not knowing you but you are a nice guy to share with. Your spending on her is really a big gap compare mine, from your mail, nearly cost you $30K to maintence the relationship with her (what written can feel that you really love her), will take this advice and will move on in life. Maybe one of these day let us catch up (where, u suggest)......hope to share more with you. thks
Yes, i might be in the developing stage with her. sometimes is hard to control not to be. anyway, she is leaving soon on 28 aug, was told that she will not extending the visa by going in/out malaysia (who knows), direct back to China.
Bros, not knowing you but you are a nice guy to share with. Your spending on her is really a big gap compare mine, from your mail, nearly cost you $30K to maintence the relationship with her (what written can feel that you really love her), will take this advice and will move on in life. Maybe one of these day let us catch up (where, u suggest)......hope to share more with you. thks
Bro, it's alrite wif me to share wat i hv gone thru. but i oni can tell u this" i cannot stop u from seeing her, every action u took come from ur heart and mind, but dun get yourself hurt and always leave a route for u to escape, if things did not turn out the way u wanted to."
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bro, it seems like the initial stage, u hv a comfortable r/ship wif the gal. everything is very lovey , like she sms u 10 times daily (my former gf at MG din even do tat). buying things from her hometown (this is common, as my gals used to bring back stuff for me). correct me if i am wrong, it seems like u have develop a feeling for her.
let me relate wat happen between me and my former MG gal. i noe her last year mar, and went quite a no. of short time wif her, slowly i develop some feeling for her. i even go to the extend of going to MG 3-4 times weekly jus to see her during her stay of 1 mth, b4 she go back to China, i bring her to makan, buy hp for her and even send her to airport. things are going well, until months later, she starts pestering me for $ and remitting money to her. in oct, she came back to singapore,even though i had strongly discourage her. she came on 1 yr professional visa, she told me she worry about not be able to recoup the $ she threw into the visa (S$6k), i told her if she willing to quit the KTV scene, i will pay on her behalf, she agrees. so i took part of my savings to pay for her visa, she still continued to work, some more after MG, she will go over to Club Ego and work till 3 am, this time i was pissed and asked her y the hell she need to work and why she broken all the promises, she told me her objective to come to singapore is to earn and repay debts in china. i ask how much, she told me 40k RMB (S$8k), i say ok, i will help u one more time, and u better promised me not to work again, she say she dun wan to give me empty promises, and claimed she will oni work twice weekly after her debt is settled. i relent and agreed to tat. after i settle her debt, she go back during CNY period, i told her to rest longer at home. she refused and is back in singapore in 3 weeks time, i told her whether she remember our promises, tat after i repay her debt, she will work oni twice per week, she angrily told me off, saying dun lay down terms and conditions to her. she continued to work. sometime during the sad hour, she cannot get any "tai", she will call me and say, "jin tian mei tai zuo, y dun i accompany u, u tip me 150". i reply, i your bf, still need to pay u, but in the end i relent. this continued for 14 days out of the 28 days she is in singapore. even come down to MG (the nxt door coffeeshop) to eat dinner wif her, still need to tip her. this is unbelievable and i was so STUPID to do it! this carry on wif her digging more and more $ from me. the last time, she's back, she requested S$10k from me, i agreed, saying u give me some time and i will settle the issue for her, but at the meantime she must not go work (as tat time rumors about raid going to take place). she did'nt heed my advice, she choose to work the next day, and it was a fateful day, she was caught and depoted back. from then on, i told myself i dunwan to have any dealing wif her anymore. b'cos of her i quarrel wif my family, b'cos of her my family was almost torn apart.
so bro, once u see a gal starts to demand things from u, and never keep their promises, it's time for u to stay away.....there are too many gals ard.
Have you read Siamcutey's on The Private Dancer? go check it out on the international thread. d00d be a player not a sucker. If the girl loves you she will never ask you for money. If she keep asking for money, say good bye to her. Girls come and go....i know the lovey dovey feeling.....but you gotta learn to be a player. never let the girl play you back. I know i am not the best qualified person to tell you this. For i have been hurt myself before, not monetary but mentally hurt by her.
Remember even if she is pregnant, dun send her money if she never ask from you. They are smarter then most of us here. They will be able to survive thru the rough seas of china. so dun worry about them.
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Have you read Siamcutey's on The Private Dancer? go check it out on the international thread. d00d be a player not a sucker. If the girl loves you she will never ask you for money. If she keep asking for money, say good bye to her. Girls come and go....i know the lovey dovey feeling.....but you gotta learn to be a player. never let the girl play you back. I know i am not the best qualified person to tell you this. For i have been hurt myself before, not monetary but mentally hurt by her.
Remember even if she is pregnant, dun send her money if she never ask from you. They are smarter then most of us here. They will be able to survive thru the rough seas of china. so dun worry about them.
walao, bro tan, really words of wisdom. is jus tat it was my 1st encounter wif PRC gals tat time, but after tat lesson, i m more or less learn how to handle them. though i still hv soft spot for them, but monetary and mentally, i am unable to give so much.
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You register in Oct 2002, reading so many FRs/talks and now you
say you kena carrot so badly. Believe you la, but really
I never see any SH gal in MG between last dec to apr 2004 that
worth what you mentioned.
I am sorry if my 'worth=how the gal looks/behave'.
Up till today, you say you are sad that she is deported. You
should be very happy that she is deported. else maybe you post in
Oct telling a story of being con by PRC gal working in MG.
What is past is past, juz a word of advice, there is never an
ending if your $$ goes to them regularly.
my previous gal always says, leave a step behind for people
to step down. (referring to the incident you had with yr gal)
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Originally Posted by mahalosux
i bring her to makan, buy hp for her and even send her to airport. things are going well, until months later, she starts pestering me for $ and remitting money to her. in oct, she came back to singapore,even though i had strongly discourage her. she came on 1 yr professional visa, she told me she worry about not be able to recoup the $ she threw into the visa (S$6k),
she told me her objective to come to singapore is to earn and repay debts in china. i ask how much, she told me 40k RMB (S$8k), i say ok, i will help u one more time,
i told her whether she remember our promises, tat after i repay her debt, she will work oni twice per week, she angrily told me off, saying dun lay down terms and conditions to her. unbelievable and i was so STUPID to do it! this carry on wif her digging more and more $ from me. the last time, she's back, she requested S$10k from me, i agreed,
she must not go work (as tat time rumors about raid going to take place). she did'nt heed my advice, she choose to work the next day, and it was a fateful day, she was caught and depoted back. .
If the girl loves you she will never ask you for money. If she keep asking for money, say good bye to her. Girls come and go....i know the lovey dovey feeling......
You register in Oct 2002, reading so many FRs/talks and now you
say you kena carrot so badly. Believe you la, but really
I never see any SH gal in MG between last dec to apr 2004 that
worth what you mentioned.
I am sorry if my 'worth=how the gal looks/behave'.
Up till today, you say you are sad that she is deported. You
should be very happy that she is deported. else maybe you post in
Oct telling a story of being con by PRC gal working in MG.
What is past is past, juz a word of advice, there is never an
ending if your $$ goes to them regularly.
my previous gal always says, leave a step behind for people
to step down. (referring to the incident you had with yr gal)
i always keep mum about these, though i always read MG thread for fun, i dun wan to post anything wif regards to her, when she's ard, cos i dun like to publicised her name on the net (out of respect to her) and she was my gf.
i was indeed sad, the moment i saw her up the "lorry", as i luv her . now though, we were apart, i still hv feelings for her, worrying about her life there. though she call and sms me, i choose not to reply or answer her, b'cos i noe tat if i ans her call, means more remitance of $. i felt tat wat i did is cruel, but hv no choice as i dun wan to see my family break up b'cos of her.
she is not tat worth mentioning, as she definitely not a looker at MG (u can say i was stupid to find a "not so chio" gal to be gf, but was smitten by the initial feeling she given to me)...
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I am not talking abt you posting anything la.
I meant there are so much on the web then, abt how these
gals cheats or con the guys. Yet you still fell for it. NOt
crying over spilt milk, but from yr current actions (what you have
told us, posted),
you seems not to hv learnt yr lesson. 'unfortunately'
Another point to share, you are indeed lucky to hv
the last and this gal. You wont die too ugly.
If give you any of my gals. I think you
bring yr complete worth with you to go CN and then
come back empty handed. Go read my story in
'long term relationship with PRC gal'.
This gal bought a new house/open new shop at age of 21.
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Originally Posted by mahalosux
i was indeed sad, the moment i saw her up the "lorry", as i luv her . now though, we were apart, i still hv feelings for her, worrying about her life there. though she call and sms me, i choose not to reply or answer her, b'cos i noe tat if i ans her call, means more remitance of $. i felt tat wat i did is cruel, but hv no choice as i dun wan to see my family break up b'cos of her.
she is not tat worth mentioning, as she definitely not a looker at MG (u can say i was stupid to find a "not so chio" gal to be gf, but was smitten by the initial feeling she given to me)...
I am not talking abt you posting anything la.
I meant there are so much on the web then, abt how these
gals cheats or con the guys. Yet you still fell for it. NOt
crying over spilt milk, but from yr current actions (what you have
told us, posted),
you seems not to hv learnt yr lesson. 'unfortunately'
Another point to share, you are indeed lucky to hv
the last and this gal. You wont die too ugly.
If give you any of my gals. I think you
bring yr complete worth with you to go CN and then
come back empty handed. Go read my story in
'long term relationship with PRC gal'.
This gal bought a new house/open new shop at age of 21.
i always ignored about other people's experience, as tat time i kept thinkin she wun play me out or watsoever. but it nvr materialized... but hopefully i can put a full-stop on the gal and carry on. the gal noes tat my pay day is coming and she ask me to remit some more $ to her. i felt tat it is not the rite thing to do, but i still feel sorry for her.... tat is y now i am avoiding her calls and pretend nothing has happen.
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let me relate wat happen between me and my former MG gal.
bro maha,
after reading your whole story, different from the picture u told us.
this type of charbor very common. everytime ask money and after that go back on their word (but ask them for money back after they go back on their word, they lan lan dont want to pay n cry father cry mother. wtf! money only give to them, how can spend finish all so quickly).
btw throughout her stay here, every month u got give her living expenses or not? u only mention pay for her visa and her debts. if not, how she survive if she dont work?
anyway she ask you for so much money, what she give u in return (other than sex lah)? she got really treat u like bf or hubby, n not free atm machine? she know u work very hard for a living? she know a few k is hard earned money not only in singapore but in prc too? how u know what on earth she doing back home? how u know she never betray u? or she dont have boy boy at home?
why u feel sorry 4 her? we bro here feel sorry for u man. want 2 give, must be within your means n u do so willingly lah!
after reading your whole story, different from the picture u told us.
this type of charbor very common. everytime ask money and after that go back on their word (but ask them for money back after they go back on their word, they lan lan dont want to pay n cry father cry mother. wtf! money only give to them, how can spend finish all so quickly).
btw throughout her stay here, every month u got give her living expenses or not? u only mention pay for her visa and her debts. if not, how she survive if she dont work?
anyway she ask you for so much money, what she give u in return (other than sex lah)? she got really treat u like bf or hubby, n not free atm machine? she know u work very hard for a living? she know a few k is hard earned money not only in singapore but in prc too? how u know what on earth she doing back home? how u know she never betray u? or she dont have boy boy at home?
why u feel sorry 4 her? we bro here feel sorry for u man. want 2 give, must be within your means n u do so willingly lah!
good luck bro.
heehee bro sadfa, no worries about wat happen. yes, indeed i pay for her rent, phone bills and makan. she still continue to work, if she did'nt go work in MG, she will call me out, but must tip her. sometime, i jus tell her, i rather u go to work, the i TIP u!
anyway, tat's the past and i wan to put it behind, y i relate my story to bro hagaman, is tat i wan to let him noe about the "tell-tale" signs of the gals when they behaved in such manner. to tell u the truth, i still havin another KTV gal, but this time round, i oni gave her wat she deserved.
thanks for ur concerns!
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