Going out with KTV girls.

[Randi_Candi]

Originally Posted by sdfr

walau... i wonder... how much of the story in this forum is true.. or exageration?? r u sure women from NC KTV can make u go from merc to bus? kancil got sell in singapore meh? oklah, maybe u mean malaysia is it. i got hear before biznez fail lah, gamble lost lah, play share lah... but neber hear before ktv girl until no money... u got no self control meh? how u became rich in the first place? anyway, just in case ur story is true... i apologize first hor. if it is true i feel sad for u lor.. hope u get rich again...

Well.....I have seen people ruined by these gals
U would be surprised of what 'luv' can do

[chew13]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro chew 13, mind 2 share your experience with us?

Well, it happens like 5 yrs ago and there was two girls (one after another). I was naive then, blindly believe in love and had yet realised the 'hardcore' value that was in them. To cut the long story short, lies after lies are all I got and I am not ashamed to say that my fault and weakness is through my sympathy and the way they make you feel guilty if you are not helping them.

Basically, I think when you read the stories of men being conned by KTV girls, most of them will follow a common pattern.
1) Girl gives freebies to hook the man (sex etc.).
2) Man think girl is in love with him (never collect money, yet!)
3) Girl then have an unfortunate event (but never ask for money this time but still gives freebies)
4) Man think girl is a good girl (because haven't ask for money)
5) Girl have another unfortunate event, cry and sob. (Like dunno what to do, but still gives freebies)
6) Man gives money, think girl is good girl and worth it.
7) Girl continue to give freebies (and then they will yet have another innovative way to make you automatically gives them money)...
8) and so on till man is squeezed dry, dry.

Ultimately, by the time you realised it, the money that you had spent are better off calling a different hooker every night with less agony and heartaches. Freebies are not actually that free.

[Randi_Candi]

Originally Posted by chew13

Well, it happens like 5 yrs ago and there was two girls (one after another). I was naive then, blindly believe in love and had yet realised the 'hardcore' value that was in them. To cut the long story short, lies after lies are all I got and I am not ashamed to say that my fault and weakness is through my sympathy and the way they make you feel guilty if you are not helping them.

Basically, I think when you read the stories of men being conned by KTV girls, most of them will follow a common pattern.
1) Girl gives freebies to hook the man (sex etc.).
2) Man think girl is in love with him (never collect money, yet!)
3) Girl then have an unfortunate event (but never ask for money this time but still gives freebies)
4) Man think girl is a good girl (because haven't ask for money)
5) Girl have another unfortunate event, cry and sob. (Like dunno what to do, but still gives freebies)
6) Man gives money, think girl is good girl and worth it.
7) Girl continue to give freebies (and then they will yet have another innovative way to make you automatically gives them money)...
8) and so on till man is squeezed dry, dry.

Ultimately, by the time you realised it, the money that you had spent are better off calling a different hooker every night with less agony and heartaches. Freebies are not actually that free.

That is a lesson learnt
Anyway you could accumulate your mercs then, sure u can get it back again!
But make sure dun lose it again if u get it back

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by chew13

1) Girl gives freebies to hook the man (sex etc.).
2) Man think girl is in love with him (never collect money, yet!)
3) Girl then have an unfortunate event (but never ask for money this time but still gives freebies)
4) Man think girl is a good girl (because haven't ask for money)
5) Girl have another unfortunate event, cry and sob. (Like dunno what to do, but still gives freebies)
6) Man gives money, think girl is good girl and worth it.
7) Girl continue to give freebies (and then they will yet have another innovative way to make you automatically gives them money)...
8) and so on till man is squeezed dry, dry.

bro, how come i dun have all these freebies lobang? anyway if a man is very chaokuan, he can get 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 and scram when going gets tough. 6 just pay her the normal market rate.

btw can share how much it cost to bonk a syt in prc whole nite and for how many nites for $500. also interested in knowing that.

[chew13]

Originally Posted by sdfr

walau... i wonder... how much of the story in this forum is true.. or exageration?? r u sure women from NC KTV can make u go from merc to bus? kancil got sell in singapore meh? oklah, maybe u mean malaysia is it. i got hear before biznez fail lah, gamble lost lah, play share lah... but neber hear before ktv girl until no money... u got no self control meh? how u became rich in the first place? anyway, just in case ur story is true... i apologize first hor. if it is true i feel sad for u lor.. hope u get rich again...

I don't blame you for disbelieving, as you had not experience it firsthand. Maybe you are fortunate to be clear minded about everything that you do that you will never fall into this kind of trap, or it could be just that you had yet met one who will melt your heart enough to make you wrench in sorrow that makes you neglect your business, your empire, and all your fortune just to let her pursuit her happiness (not yours).

And it doesn't help when people I called friends decides to borrow hundreds of thousands just right before they go declare themselves bankrupt after the stupid ruling that gives bankrupt automatic discharge after 3 years.

The reason why I use Kancil as a comparison is because I am now iving in Malaysia to cut cost and I can't even afford to buy that. Maybe I can, but then the purse string will be very tight. I am now riding a 10 yr old Honda Steed that I bought for S$1500, haven't renew the COE yet though.

Bro, there is no need for apologies, nor any need to feel sad or sorry for me. I deserve what I got and I had learnt my lesson well. Though life may not be as great or as easy now, at least I am proud to say that I had grown through this stage and hereafter live by the following golden rules when dealing with women of pleasures.

1) Business is business, love is all bullshit.
2) There is plenty more where they came from.
3) You are paying them to leave, not paying them for the job done.
4) If you think they are in love with you, refer to rule #1.
5) If more doubts remain, refer to rule #2, then read rule #1 again.

[chew13]

Originally Posted by Randi_Candi

That is a lesson learnt
Anyway you could accumulate your mercs then, sure u can get it back again!
But make sure dun lose it again if u get it back

Well, I had definitely been trying for the last couple of years, but these are tough times to make money as the global economy are so bad. Well, try, try again.

However, I will never buy a car in Singapore again. If one day I make my mark again, I will leave and never return, well, except occasionally to visit my parents. No sense paying so much for everything when you only get back so little in Singapore.

[chew13]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro, how come i dun have all these freebies lobang? anyway if a man is very chaokuan, he can get 1,2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 and scram when going gets tough. 6 just pay her the normal market rate.

I learnt that to deal with 'hardcore' girls, we have to be 'hardcore' too, that is, to leave with zero contact at the first hint of money grabbing.

Nowadays, whenever I have one nite stand with whoever, I will usually just put the market rate in an Ang Pao (or envelope) and give it to them. I will tell them that I want to buy them a gift but don't know what they like so it's better for them to buy it themselves. Most girls will not feel bad taking it this way and in my case, I am not obliged to the girl any further.

Originally Posted by sadfa

btw can share how much it cost to bonk a syt in prc whole nite and for how many nites for $500. also interested in knowing that.

Depending on area (exclude Shanghai and Beijing for obvious reasons), time and season, S$500 should get you 5 or 6 overnighters. For the same amount you can probably get 10-16 short time, again depending on area. In Sha Tsui, with 3,000 SYT available at anytime, rmb150 per short time, that will get you 16.

I had heard that in some more rural part of China, short time cost as low as rmb50 and overnight for rmb80. I haven't had a chance to verified that though.

[hock19]

In my experience it is really very simple - nothing is for free. It is either

-money now, or later

or

- if it is not money, then emotional problems (especially if you are married) most likely later!

To me sometimes emotional issues can be worst than money.

But at the end nothing is for free!!!!!! Just remember that!

[sl135831]

I agree with some of you guys about PRC girls , never trust them i prefer to bonk in bkk or jkt at least they take my money from my wallet not my family or property.

My brother in law have a supervisor that work under him,he work hard but he like to party in KTV,He used to frequent this KTV and like one of the PRC girl but what i heard is he got stabbed in the neck and parlaysed from the neck down , he live for a few years and die due to the medicial problem,the bouncer got 7 years jail and the prc i heard was sent back , all for nothing.

Another incident ,He got another friend but not very handsome and fat, he prepare to marry the PRC girl and give out the wedding card and he give the girl alots of money to buy gold(dowry) and later she disappeared.

I am proud chinese but sadly i can't stand prc people.
I hope govt should stop bringing these people ,stick to people from malaysia or indonesia at least they understand our culture.

I see them like "7th month hungry ghost" grabbed everything before the gate of hell closed again.

I hope u guys don't deduct my points again.

[Ah Tan]

Originally Posted by chew13

Ultimately, by the time you realised it, the money that you had spent are better off calling a different hooker every night with less agony and heartaches. Freebies are not actually that free.

well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ronvo]

HI GUYs, i have recently met a ktv gal and she is a korean babe.
We havent onz yet, as we met in a pub lol.


well, just be careful and all the gals out there are just for $$ , be it chiobus or normal gals.

LOVE is just bullshit, unless my TIP , is to make her SWEAR TO U that she love u . THen in this way , i will believe

Thats it

[cojones]

I agree brother chew13. I have same experience. Much poorer now. Not only KTV girls can do this. Even actresses and models from here & HK, Taiwan, etc do this con job too. Maybe they are more dangerus bcos don't expect them to be that crude.

[alsahaf]

Damn. You guys are getting me worried. I'd think I better start spending money on her and make exit strategy.

[alsahaf]

Originally Posted by sadfa

bro dunno why your rep pt deducted until 4. but if u r not big cannon, enjoy your free bonks lah.

Haha, when I asked the question I prepared for rep to drop already. Either ppl think I big cannon or ppl jealous. I can understand why though. Been cheonging for years myself and this is the first free bonk I ever had.

Balls to the rep. I just needed to talk to people with similar experience.

[Van Basten]

Originally Posted by alsahaf

Damn. You guys are getting me worried. I'd think I better start spending money on her and make exit strategy.

hi bro... let's just analyse yr situation a little further. 1stly, did u kind of tell her u like her or wat happened initially?