Why Are Women Crazy & Why Your Marriage Is Failing

[MoeLanYong]

Originally Posted by Notary

If you would have taken reading lessons to begin with you'll understand with absolute clarity that this post does not just deal with marriage issues only. It also touches on boyfriend / girlfriend type of relationships and in general the wacky female psychology. It also does not give advice on what to do with your marriage, it merely states the possible reason towards marriage failure.



In case you need advise on the definition of the word "advice".

According to the dictionary:
The word "Advice" is an opinion or recommendation offered as a guide to action and / or conduct.



There is no where in my post where I said "you should divorce", "you should finger your wife more" or "you should at least have education so that you could read (your wife) properly." These, in case you don't know, are called "actions"



Yes, I would still take advice from a non-swimming if the non-swimmer is very well read on swimming or has got a PhD in Science, Majoring in Water Survival.



And yes, marriage is an art but it is also science, it is also relationship management, it is also business management (handling the finances between the union), it is also human resource management (how to manage people that's within the circle of your marriage, your in-laws, your children and even your maid) and marriage is also psychology.



Would you allow a psychologist to advice you if she is not psycho?
Would you allow a wine salesman to sell you wine if he is not a vineyard owner?
Would you allow a a top business consulting firm like Deloitte to consult your multi-million dollar Char Kway Teow business if they do not own a Char Kway Teow business themselves?




"Truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding, disbelief or ignorance."
- W. Clement Stone

You are just playing around with words. Science is just a systematic study of matters with finite results. The is nothing systematic and universal in how a marriage should work out. It is just how 2 people with free choice want to work at it, hence an art. Nothing scientific.

I find your answer to swimming, and analogies of a psychologist, wine salesman, a top business consulting firm immature. It stems from an obvious lack of experience, like I first mentioned.

When you get a son many years later, please do follow through your words that you will trust the most precious thing you have at the deep end of a pool to a swim coach who can't swim.

No, I never took advice from any consultant in running my business. Neither did any of my more successful peers who are worth $100-200m. I know a top business consultant whose consulting business went bust and he went back to his prestigious government job. I said to him Look here, the people who made it good to afford you is not going to listen to you tell them how to run their business, no matter how many scholarships and masters you have. That's not how men and life works. He agreed.

Certain things in life can be studied and improved upon. Certain things boils down to experience. Marriage and family is one such area. Unless you go through it, you will not understand the kinks and quirks bros here go through.

[Notary]

Originally Posted by MoeLanYong

You are just playing around with words. Science is just a systematic study of matters with finite results. The is nothing systematic and universal in how a marriage should work out. It is just how 2 people with free choice want to work at it, hence an art. Nothing scientific.

I find your answer to swimming, and analogies of a psychologist, wine salesman, a top business consulting firm immature. It stems from an obvious lack of experience, like I first mentioned.

When you get a son many years later, please do follow through your words that you will trust the most precious thing you have at the deep end of a pool to a swim coach who can't swim.

No, I never took advice from any consultant in running my business. Neither did any of my more successful peers who are worth $100-200m. I know a top business consultant whose consulting business went bust and he went back to his prestigious government job. I said to him Look here, the people who made it good to afford you is not going to listen to you tell them how to run their business, no matter how many scholarships and masters you have. That's not how men and life works. He agreed.

Certain things in life can be studied and improved upon. Certain things boils down to experience. Marriage and family is one such area. Unless you go through it, you will not understand the kinks and quirks bros here go through.

For sure, anyone in a forum without their identity being revealed can say anything they want and claim anything they want. 100m, 200m or a billion dollars.



You can think whatever is immature, you're entitled to that right. Or you could only reply to the pointers you want to reply to. I too could think that you're not a very bright person and I am entitled to that right.



Have a pleasant Vesak Day ahead Mr. MoeLanYong.

[MoeLanYong]

Originally Posted by Notary

For sure, anyone in a forum without their identity being revealed can say anything they want and claim anything they want. 100m, 200m or a billion dollars.



You can think whatever is immature, you're entitled to that right. Or you could only reply to the pointers you want to reply to. I too could think that you're not a very bright person and I am entitled to that right.



Have a pleasant Vesak Day ahead Mr. MoeLanYong.

His worth was published in the Straits Times. Debate the issues, not the personalities if you are capable of robust discourse. Likewise, have a good holiday with your loved ones today.

[Alice11]

Originally Posted by MoeLanYong

You are just playing around with words.

Are you the same too?
Have a gd week Mr MoeJoe313

Originally Posted by MoeLanYong

Yet you want to give advice on marriage?!

Does that means everyone must have sex before to post in a sex forum??

Originally Posted by Notary

For sure, anyone in a forum without their identity being revealed can say anything they want and claim anything they want. 100m, 200m or a billion dollars.



You can think whatever is immature, you're entitled to that right. Or you could only reply to the pointers you want to reply to. I too could think that you're not a very bright person and I am entitled to that right.

He will never agree to anyone. Be careful he will read every other details you type before and used that to pinpoint you thoroughly.

[Notary]

Hi Alice11,



Thanks for informing me.
Didn't know that the above said person was MoeJoe313. He intruded my Counselling Help Tread last month wishing me good luck as he had an illusion that I was trying to change people's minds.


I quote:

"Good luck to you TS. I find one of the hardest things to do in life is to change a person's mind, especially the male species. He may agree with you to be cordial but deep down inside him, he has already made up his mind on certain matters."




My reply:

"Dear Bro MoJoe313,

I don't think I have stated anywhere in this thread that my aim is to change someone's mind. My goal is to be someone's listening ear, help people shed some light unto their paths and hopefully they can make better informed decisions."



You may find the actual postings here: http://sbf.directory/showthr...e=2&highlight=



Should have known, wasted 5 minutes of my time attending to him.
Thanks for informing anyway. All we want is intellectual conversation; at least master the basics of reading properly first before trying to fly. Otherwise, going to an optometrist or seeking help from and English teacher could be a solution for people who cannot read.

[MoeLanYong]

My gosh. Posting a comment in a public forum to wish you luck is called an intrusion? Or is it revealing of your inadequacy? The definition of counselling is simply termed as giving formal advice i.e. the intended recipient has to accept the advice for a successful counsel, which is the same as changing a person's mind on the subject being counselled. If his mind is unchanged, you have not succeeded in counselling. You are just a confidante. If you claim counselling abilities, you should demonstrate a skill to persuade, less snipes.

And some patience too.

Unless you are inexperienced as a counsellor, you must be aware people comes in all types and ages, opinionated or otherwise.

There is a plethora of advice both offline and online. What one chooses to listens to and be persuaded by, is a test of his wisdom. You may be the one carrying the donkey when you listen to an unqualified person, hence the need to qualify you too. What I wrote is not unreasonable to an ordinary thinking mind. Don't take it too personally.

[Alice11]

Originally Posted by Notary

Hi Alice11,

Thanks for informing me.

Should have known, wasted 5 minutes of my time attending to him.
Thanks for informing anyway. All we want is intellectual conversation; at least master the basics of reading properly first before trying to fly. Otherwise, going to an optometrist or seeking help from and English teacher could be a solution for people who cannot read.

You are welcome. See above post. I have mentioned before he will pinpoint you lol.
Seems he never learn

[PleasurableSex]

Mr Joe MoeLanYong (MoJoe313?) , why don't you tell him your experience towards sustaining a strong marriage, assuming that you are really mojoe and is married with children.

We naturally give more weight to those who have been there and done that.

I think TS' stance is more towards why you shouldn't get married than why your marriage is failing.

[jazp]

Originally Posted by williamtkk

But then there are always some who did not keep their side of the bargain and expect free meals, buyers beware.

I'm thinking some call this type of women wife...

[Notary]

Originally Posted by jazp

I'm thinking some call this type of women wife...

LOL. But I think generally, 'this type' of women exist throughout with or without the marriage certificate being signed.

[williamtkk]

Originally Posted by Notary

LOL. But I think generally, 'this type' of women exist throughout with or without the marriage certificate being signed.

Yup, lol, they exist everywhere

[Ngengheng]

Modern woman are opportunist couple with strong feminism. Man will never win during any kinda arguments . Woman is just emotional creatures whereas man are rational . But man still love it and cant live without them....lol

[MoeLanYong]

Originally Posted by PleasurableSex

Mr Joe MoeLanYong (MoJoe313?) , why don't you tell him your experience towards sustaining a strong marriage, assuming that you are really mojoe and is married with children.

We naturally give more weight to those who have been there and done that.

I think TS' stance is more towards why you shouldn't get married than why your marriage is failing.

If you are referring to me, I am not worthy to counsel. I just found it fascinating that someone who isn't married wants to counsel the married. TS has a thread elsewhere giving advice on managing relationships, including marriage. Quite empty and rhetorical because no one posts there so he picks up stories here and posts his unsolicited diagnosis and advice there.

It is somewhat presumptuous because not everyone appreciates their story being picked upon and re-posted, on what to do and what not to do. At this juncture, I reckon TS's intention to be genuine though his execution somewhat flawed.

What I found improper here was the reckless use of scriptures to twist "quarrelsome wife" into "crazy wife". Scroll up to see it. Quarrelsome is not crazy. Now, if one is going to borrow scriptures from a religion, my opinion is it has to be correctly represented, don't you agree? In this case, it is not. Hence, my probes. No decent self professing counsellor starts off by alleging wives/women are crazy.

[Kuan Aik Hong]

Is because woman wants all man to be obedient and listen to them..so easy.

[Notary]

Originally Posted by Kuan Aik Hong

Is because woman wants all man to be obedient and listen to them..so easy.

Haha Bro Kuan Aik Hong, but can our kind be that obedient?