Mistress

[warbird]

Originally Posted by sing11235813

You're right. But, then, homely also means less-bonked and purer! So, if you are successful, the feeling is better too. If she is one who says yes to every proposition that comes along, then the fun and challenge is not there anymore.

Hi bro sing,

Not necessarily true. A gal who is homely to u may be very desirable to some other men...one man's meat is another man's poison, hahaha. Then there is the mysterious Rashomon effect...

The gal must be my type, especially the body type that will awake my didi.

Originally Posted by sing11235813

I guess, this is where bro Jus' masterstroke comes in: accidentally spill coffee on her (if she is a waitress) when she serves your table! Than offer to buy her new clothes the next day.

Good strategy. By doing so, u hv created a moderately intense emotional experience for her, which is directly connected w/ u. It will leave an imprint in her subconscious mind. Could be powerful stuff, man.

Gals crave emotional experiences as much as men crave sexual experiences, hahaha.

Another even better idea which we often see in movies n novels is abt a hero appearing from nowhere to rescue a damsel in distress, from robbery, rape, kidnapping or whatever. Supposing the gal is extremely pretty n desirable, would it be worthwhile for u to stage the whole thing? You will be a great hero of course. Unfortunately (or fortunately), u probably should not carry it out in SGP where the rule of law is strictly n rigidly enforced. IMHO, this kind of fake rescue to win a gal's heart is certainly doable in Thailand n PRC n many other countries, hehehe.

Originally Posted by sing11235813

Bro warbird, you are very generous. But, I am really not into the messiness of long-term arrangements. Also, I think it's better to hunt by myself rather than to have one handed on a platter.

Yes, a large part of the fun in bedding a gal is the process of finding n wooing her. I'm also very reluctant to commit to any long-term BY.

The 19 yo Fujian hairstylist is actually the chaser now n wants to go out w/ me again in a few days. I hv already hugged her n lightly kissed her...n I hv not paid her a penny nor made any promises yet. BTW, I'm most attracted to a gal's butt n she happens to hv a nice, perky n broad one, unlike many PRC MMs...should be great for doggie. I'll escalate the sexual tension n french her next time. I may just whack her n then buy her a small gift. Minimal investment...maximum return...hahaha.

Originally Posted by sing11235813

A quick question on tests: where can I bring a prospect for quick, discreet test for all the common diseases? I'm assuming it's a nice private clinic? And are HIV and RPR (this is for syphillis right?) the only thing you test for? I'm a little pananoid when it comes to diseases, as you can probably guess by now.

Yes, RPR is for syphilis. She went to a private clinic in Chinatown. I would hv sent her to DSC for a complete female sexual exam n blood tests.

Originally Posted by sing11235813

Maybe you should look into such short-term BY as well!

Actually all my BYs to date hv been short-term. I hv revamped the "BY package" of the 18 yo singer in such a way that it's very favorable to me.

Cheers!

[ansonsohna]

Bro Sing & Bro Warbird,

Good luck in yur BY advantures .... altho, I cannot afford to BY right now, I hope to do so one day. then maybe we can 'swap' mistress like bro justime.

Looking forward to yur stories right here.

also like to 'boast a little' ..... how often have I got chance to hao lian .. :

since bro jus 'talk' (see my above post):

* my smoking cut down a lot. one packet can last me 1 and 1/2 day.

* i collected 4 rejection from girl i meet at MRT. and i manage to go on 2 dates one with stranger some more. ok, she quite plain lah ... but me no look like singer Rain either. at least i finally go on date after many many mths.

* 老板 also give me compliment & say my attitude got improve. actually i stay back to post pics at sammyboy, but he don't know.

* wah lao, even my sammyboy point got go up. now got power pts .... when i talk to bro jus tat time, power zero and rep pt 11 niah.

* i never drink beer & alcohol since tat day (now like my other sifu bro warbird).

* i got 'save' some money. after next mth payday .... can pay back bro jus his money he gave & blanjar him kopi too!

bro jus, u macham singapore version anthony robbin. why don't u open clinic here like some bro suggest in one of their post here. i first one to line up & attend.

tk u for reading and listening to my 自吹自擂 (self boast) ...... kum siah!

[jnewwit]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

...In this game, there is always a looser.
If the man spends more than he wishes to get the meat, he lost.
If the gal submits to all your demands and has no bargaining power to squeeze you of more juice, she lost!

Remember, NO EMOTIONS!
...
Them: 老公， 你在干吗呢？
You :我需要报道给你吗？
...
The entire charade is to not allow them to pose anything to you, thus will always be placed in the backseat. You drive, they sit, so in very crude term, JUST SHUT UP AND FOLLOW!

$$$$$ is the root and most important fundamental of this game.
If you want a mistress, in my book, it's called personal toilet, be prepared to spend $$$$$$$
If you cant, suggest you save your money and get STs when avail rather than spending money on a shared toilet, just dun make sense............

These gals are very realistic, so shud we.......

Very useful advice. Thank you.

[cablesnwires]

Bro ansonsohna,

Keep it up. The changes you made are for yourself, and I am glad that your paradigm shift has moved for the better.

[wolf2305]

Bro warbird, Bro Justime and Bro DYB,

after reading this thread and learning from the masters. I must say that i have learnt alot and I believe in my case i will be using Bro Justime methods. Although different strokes for different pple, currently I am putting it into action while I might have reinvented some of the strokes and put into my use.

For the information
I am in my early 30s and running a small business.
Thus i might have the time but I have not had the money.

Thus, I must salute the gurus and thank you Bros for all the advices and methods that you have employed.

Thank you

[Soul_Reaper]

Something I need to get off my chest....... hopefully the BAO Masters here can help.

What would you do in this scenario? -

Bros Alex & Ben were buddies and colleagues.
Alex married their mutual friend Carol and later left the company to set up his own business. As his business grew he employed Diana whom he later bao as his mistress.

Ben came to know Diana a few years later and they both fell in love (Diana was still Alex's mistress). One day Ben came to know about Alex & Diana's relationship from another party. Carol calls Ben regularly to get feedback on Alex.

Ben is confused how he should deal with Alex, Carol & Diana under these circumstances? What would you do if you were in Ben's position?

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Dump Diana & find another toilet to keep.
Its already clear that Diana is "IN LUV" with Ben but being fed by Alex!
So why feed a cow to be milked by someone else?
Cases like these, dun use heart, use logic!

[justime]

Hello everyone, glad to be at this thread again after quite a while. Glad to see that the thread is very lively during my absence. Thank you one and all for your kind participation. Keep the discussion going, we can mutually learn from one another so that we will always remember to empower ourselves when engaging and interacting with a PRC mei mei.

As I have just completed a major project, I am feeling a little enervated hence my reply will be brief for now. (Hey, to tell you how busy I have been, I did not have sex for more than five days already … and rest now appears a more compelling proposition than sizzling sex presently!!!)

Starting from the latest few posts:

Originally Posted by sing11235813

You're right. But, then, homely also means less-bonked and purer! So, if you are successful, the feeling is better too. If she is one who says yes to every proposition that comes along, then the fun and challenge is not there anymore.

…. But, I am really not into the messiness of long-term arrangements. Also, I think it's better to hunt by myself rather than to have one handed on a platter.

Hi Sing, it would be very disingenuous and hypocritical of me to dissuade you from your BY forays. But let me tell you that Mistressing can be very addictive indeed. To me personally, it is better than having a gf or engaging in Short Time. Again always be mindful of the costs (not only monetary) in your pursuance of her.

This being said, I have looked into your posts, and you came across as a person who knows exactly what you want. This ran the gamut from the type of girl you like to pursue to the cost and context by which you will frame the proposition. This is very good indeed. You have defined the parameters clearly and you know the “stop” or “cut loss” points (a carry over from your career in the financial sector?).

As to the discussion regarding a KTV WL or a ‘homely’ one, the answer (which is also a non-answer) is obvious. It is really dependant on the personality and character of the girl herself.

A homely girl can be as susceptible to sexual disease as a KTV WL. We cannot know for sure how promiscuous she is (and a ‘normal’ PRC girl can be usually quite complacent in the use of protection -this I can confirm).

The truism should be therefore be noted: women usually lie about how many men she slept with by discounting the number in order to appear virtuous - which is generally coveted by most men. (Men also lie, but they exaggerate the quantity on a higher side ).

Also note that a KTV WL can just be as noble and many a times present a more interesting “chase” prospect (if it is the challenge and thrill of purchase you seek!). Here you are competing against many other men in addition to winning your quarry's heart.

So Bro Sing, do “reality blog” your pursuits here, and we can collectively dispense our viewpoints so that you can make the most informed decisions based on the context of your own personal agenda and situation.

By the way, if you have been following this thread, you will know that I currently have both “types” of mistress under my patronage. So I can just provide some anecdotes and personal sharing in order to help you shape you decisions as you go along your little adventure.

Good luck!

Originally Posted by wolf2305

...after reading this thread and learning from the masters. I must say that i have learnt alot and I believe in my case i will be using Bro Justime methods. Although different strokes for different pple, currently I am putting it into action while I might have reinvented some of the strokes and put into my use.

For the information
I am in my early 30s and running a small business.
Thus i might have the time but I have not had the money.

Thus, I must salute the gurus and thank you Bros for all the advices and methods that you have employed.

Thank you

Hello bro wolf, if it is alright, could you document “the chase” if it is not too personal?

Every plan needs to be adapted to suit context, and you may just hit upon a powerful masterstroke that can benefit a lot of bros.

Originally Posted by Soul_Reaper

Something I need to get off my chest....... hopefully the BAO Masters here can help.

What would you do in this scenario? -

Bros Alex & Ben were buddies and colleagues.
Alex married their mutual friend Carol and later left the company to set up his own business. As his business grew he employed Diana whom he later bao as his mistress.

Ben came to know Diana a few years later and they both fell in love (Diana was still Alex's mistress). One day Ben came to know about Alex & Diana's relationship from another party. Carol calls Ben regularly to get feedback on Alex.

Ben is confused how he should deal with Alex, Carol & Diana under these circumstances? What would you do if you were in Ben's position?

DYBJ is correct. Alex must right away cut off his relationship with Diana. Never allow a mistress to have her cake and eat it too. You are not the Uninformed Robert that condones such nonsense. (I have not talked specifically about “control” mechanism iof the patron so that the situation described above will not even arise in the first place - obviously Alex does not have what it takes to compel "loyalty" despite paying good money.)

Let me tell you unequivocably that even the most naïve and/or seasoned veteran WL all know about this “boundary”. (You don't see other men when you are under a Patron!). Without a doubt, Diana breached the boundary knowingly and must be unceremoniously dumped. If as you say, Alex is a business person and an employer, would he then tolerate such disloyalty from his staff?

Ben may be the innocent party in that he did not have prior knowledge of the relationship between Alex & Diana until he is immersed in it. (By the way, Ben should never ever betray Alex’s trust by providing Carol feedback). Now that he discovers his position, he should right away know of Diana’s propensity for deceit. He too should therefore dump her outright – as there will be betrayal of sorts in continuing the relationship.

Now in order to draw a useful stratgic tool in this scenario: I am presuming here that Diana is one hell of a beautiful lass (who knows how to sensuously pleasure her lover). Yes, there is always a powerful attraction to such women and many men cannot disengaged themselves from the pull (or lure) of this dangerous liaison. A lot of men (probably Ben and Alex?) may find it difficult to let go of such magnetic personality. There will be longing, tears and pain in the story if the guy protagonist do not know to put himself in an empowered state.

Lesson here: To inure yourself against such powerful and pervasive fatal attraction, an empowered person must always strive to have several viable choice(s). He would therefore not be needy and getting psychological / psychic / physical satisfaction from a single source as this makes him vulnerable.

Litmus Test: Always ask yourself what are my options and choices in any given scenario. And if you cannot think of any other viable and equally compelling choice, you have inadvertantly put yourself in a disempowered position!

[ansonsohna]

Originally Posted by justime

....
Lesson here: To inure yourself against such powerful and pervasive fatal attraction, an empowered person must always strive to have several viable choice(s). He would therefore not be needy and getting psychological / psychic / physical satisfaction from a single source as this makes him vulnerable.
....
Litmus Test: Always ask yourself what are my options and choices in any given scenario. And if you cannot think of any other viable and equally compelling choice, you have inadvertantly put yourself in a disempowered position!

bro justime, so glad to hear from you again. hope u had a nice rest.
this i think is one of the best advice ever, to always create options & choice for yourself so tat we will be empowered.

i took yur 'wise counsel' & 'just do it' (like Nike ad says) & focus on collecting rejections. now tat i not so "outcome" focus*, i relax a lot in my approach ...

from the time we last talk, i as of last nite, collected ten rejections, got three nbrs & one date. ..... all from total strangers.

i go out with her now for two times already ... & even kiss her. light peck on lip niah ... but at least something. last time i go FL, she don't even allow me to kiss!

sifu, u are correct as usual - it does get easier & i find tat i got more control in my life. now i can be "proactive and not reactive"*.

my unlucky situ with the IP girl tat made me so chia lat i see now as "逢凶化吉" (misfortune turn to blessing). i now learn the value of "Wrest Control of my life by actively seeking choice and options"*. I don't have to wait for lu lian drop, i can go find durian tree & pluck ....

* Bro Justime's words, where my ang mo got so cheem one!

[biker_man]

Bro Justime,

I just want to tell you that your contribution to this thread is really appreciated by the quiet majority here.

Thank you for taking the time and effort to contribute to this forum with your engaging style of writing.

I chanced upon this thread early this morning (Sunday), and I have been reading it the past 2 hours. A lot of the information and techniques that have been described by you is freaking awesome!

Even though i am not doing any "mistressing" (already enough headache with Wife & Gf), the guide that you have provided will come in handy in other situations.

Up you Bro

cheers from

biker_man

[warbird]

Originally Posted by justime

Hello everyone, glad to be at this thread again after quite a while. Glad to see that the thread is very lively during my absence.................................

Also note that a KTV WL can just be as noble and many a times present a more interesting “chase” prospect (if it is the challenge and thrill of purchase you seek!). Here you are competing against many other men in addition to winning your quarry's heart.

Hi bro justime,

I believe there r some KTV gals/students who hv been here for almost a yr n hv never had sex w/ any men. So bedding them would be a big challenge.

Originally Posted by justime

Lesson here: To inure yourself against such powerful and pervasive fatal attraction, an empowered person must always strive to have several viable choice(s). He would therefore not be needy and getting psychological / psychic / physical satisfaction from a single source as this makes him vulnerable.

Great advice! It's imperative that a man should hv several pussies available to him at any one time. That way he is unlikely to become dependent on or addicted to just one pussy.

Cheers!

[justime]

Originally Posted by biker_man

Bro Justime,

I just want to tell you that your contribution to this thread is really appreciated by the quiet majority here.

Thank you for taking the time and effort to contribute to this forum with your engaging style of writing.

I chanced upon this thread early this morning (Sunday), and I have been reading it the past 2 hours. A lot of the information and techniques that have been described by you is freaking awesome!

Even though i am not doing any "mistressing" (already enough headache with Wife & Gf), the guide that you have provided will come in handy in other situations........

hi biker man, thanks your lovely gesture and your encouraging post. It is very heart warming indeed. And it certainly gives validation that my clarion call for bros to be empowered is heard in numbers that is above my original expectations when I first embark on this project.

Hope that I can live up to your expectations!

[justime]

Hello everyone, this (and the one above) post is written in the LOS (Bangkok, Thailand). I am currently at Paeng's (my Thai mistress) home, waiting for her to close shop before coming over here for "supper" (innuendo here ... but of course!)

Anyway, XH have left Singapore about two weeks ago. Recollect if you will, XH is my "hybraid" mistress-GF that I picked up at Amani. She is 'featured' in my Reality Blog and used several times as an illustration of certain Masterstrokes.

Well, we did not break up or anything like that. She simply taking a hiatus to go back to China as she misses home.

Since she is physically not present (out of sight out of mind), I thought I just use a little hindsight analytical perspective to see how I fared in terms of practicing what I preached.

As the experience is still fresh in my mind, I am able to better recollect the nuances of XH behavioural patterns.

To kick off, we shall be of course talk about the issue of MONEY in order to see how the theories dovetail to the real world scenario with regards to XH.

(By way of a refresher, I shall use some quotations - by myself & contributors here - as a starting point)

(Part 1 - to be con't)

[justime]

Refresher:

Originally Posted by justime

.......will not be enough if your 'mistress' is an Ang Pai (or even a semi Ang Pai) or if she has high consumption / consumerism habits. As such, there is a need for her to develop alternative 'income' channels to feed the habit. This is a practical and logical thing to do - and one which I myself will do if the roles are reversed.

Think of money in a mistressing context like this: It is not the sum of money that is important here. It is the use of money (regardless of amount) in enforcing and consolidating your power status in your relationship with her.

The corollary of the poor use/execution of "money as leverage" is that the 'mistress' will always stretch the limits of your tolerance. The more they can get away with it the better.

.... Never meekly submit nor play the 'hurt' man.

In getting your mistress to execute your desires, you do NOT ever seek her understanding (in the vain hope that she will be sympathize with you, feel kinda bad and then be somehow emotionally blackmailed into compromising with you). It never ever works this way!

b) Also Never get worked up and all riled up - to use anger as way to enforce the mistress desired behaviour.

The "My way or the highway" threats are very dispowering - especially if not backed up by deed!

Calm, factual and rational tone that underlies the seriousness of your intention is best. Follow up on the relevant "punitive measures" - there must be one. But never of the "throw the baby along with the bathwater" variety such as immediately ending the mistress patronage! (Or you will be missing a hellva good opportunity to take your relationship at the next level.)

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Certain points made in this thread is crucial:

[1] Budget control - Determine how much you are willing to forego.
[2] Be prepared to walk away if something is wrong.
[3] Need to show who the boss is, and it's not THEM!
[4] Maximize your returns with the minimum investment.
[5] Be a confident bastard!

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

If you Bao someone for say, 2k a month, cmon, be practical, even for a local, how to survive?
What you got is not a steal, but a shared toilet. So in this light, is it really worth the little money spent let alone, sharing it wif someone else??????

Having a mistress, excuse me, is not a cheap thing, the entire game requires $$$$ and also, a thief to catch a thief mentality.
Always know, what you hear isnt real, to outwit them, you have to think like them. What would you do, say think to help you make more money????? This goes through their mind all the time.

In this game, there is always a looser.
If the man spends more than he wishes to get the meat, he lost.
If the gal submits to all your demands and has no bargaining power to squeeze you of more juice, she lost!

Remember, NO EMOTIONS!
Just treat them as whores and you'll be fine.
Once you allow their sweetness and charm to smitten you or have a crush on them, man, you're already dead............

The entire charade is to not allow them to pose anything to you, thus will always be placed in the backseat. You drive, they sit, so in very crude term, JUST SHUT UP AND FOLLOW!

$$$$$ is the root and most important fundamental of this game.
If you want a mistress, in my book, it's called personal toilet, be prepared to spend $$$$$$$
If you cant, suggest you save your money and get STs when avail rather than spending money on a shared toilet, just dun make sense............

These gals are very realistic, so shud we.......

[justime]

Originally Posted by formidable

Extract from Net:Economics n Psychology of Commercial Sex.
A pros is like renting a car.
A mistress is like buying a car.

Not many men can afford a mistress.

...

Originally Posted by justime

...laying out the cards on the services you expect. ...Many people use the courtship / girlfriend route and mistakenly assume that they are Baoying a girl (mistress). This is NOT correct. What you are doing is simply giving the girlfriend an allowance or as the mei mei like to put it – help them with their living expenses. Expectations are not communicated and your allowance to her is taken for granted

You therefore need to make a distinction that you purchase her time and service. (No need to be so commercially crass about it if it is not your style – you can romanticize the relationship saying that I take care of you in return for love, loyalty and devotion).

(One important Test whether your prospect is girl-friend or Mistress is your ability to assert and articulate the service you expect or want. If you cannot do this step – you pursuit is in a girl friend mode! And expect a “girlfriend” type of service!)

Originally Posted by justime

.......will not be enough if your 'mistress' is an Ang Pai (or even a semi Ang Pai) or if she has high consumption / consumerism habits. As such, there is a need for her to develop alternative 'income' channels to feed the habit. This is a practical and logical thing to do - and one which I myself will do if the roles are reversed.

Think of money in a mistressing context like this: It is not the sum of money that is important here. It is the use of money (regardless of amount) in enforcing and consolidating your power status in your relationship with her.

The corollary of the poor use/execution of "money as leverage" is that the 'mistress' will always stretch the limits of your tolerance. The more they can get away with it the better.

.... Never meekly submit nor play the 'hurt' man.

In getting your mistress to execute your desires, you do NOT ever seek her understanding (in the vain hope that she will be sympathize with you, feel kinda bad and then be somehow emotionally blackmailed into compromising with you). It never ever works this way!

b) Also Never get worked up and all riled up - to use anger as way to enforce the mistress desired behaviour.

The "My way or the highway" threats are very dispowering - especially if not backed up by deed!

Calm, factual and rational tone that underlies the seriousness of your intention is best. Follow up on the relevant "punitive measures" - there must be one. But never of the "throw the baby along with the bathwater" variety such as immediately ending the mistress patronage! (Or you will be missing a hellva good opportunity to take your relationship at the next level.)

Now that I have extracted - almost randomly from throughout this thread, let me provide a little analysis on whether I lived up to the precepts of empowerment that I talked about ....

(To be con't .....)