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[i^Xi0n]

Originally Posted by ahpui99

I come to one simple conclusion on the KC poison. Too much time or too much money or both. Time and money can be used on much more productive things that being KCed.

Too much time and money are definitely factors. The GFE, sweet talk and follow up like messages & calls & dates given by the WLs just add on to it.

From experiences and what I observed, those who got KCed, the WLs are normally sweet talkers and good in follow up. Normally starts with texting or calls and guys start to think the WLs are treating them as friends instead of just another customer. Then the frequency of RTFs/visits/tips increased and those calls & text became a daily affair. With all these physical contact and daily communication, guys will get the wrong idea that he is special to this WL or the WL like him. Then dates or meet ups outside of work starts eg like sending meals, sending her to work/home, going out after work, dating on off days etc. Holding hands, hugging, kissing during such meet ups are the norm and guys will be even more sure that he is special or/and the WL really like him. Then all these meet ups become almost a daily affair and guys starts to think they are in a relationship. This is normally when the WL starts asking for stuff like gifts, allowances, holidays, money to settle debts etc. Guys tend to give as he view her as a girlfriend. When he no longer can afford all these, she will say he don't love her etc. When she is sure she cannot get it, she will just leave and normally will get into another relationship very fast. These WLs are just interested in the money you invest in them, they can try to like you if the money is worth it. As the PRC WLs always tell me "一个男人多爱我，就是看他肯在我身上花和投资多少钱＂.

So if you are just a normal salaried worker, I don't think you can afford such a relationship. So just go enjoy the sex and don't think too much or get misled by the so called hints. Ultimately it's just a business transaction, you pay and she give.

Of course not that all WLs are like that, there are successful cases with happy endings but, to me, chances are low. Such places are just wrong places to look or trying to seek a relationship or love. Many other options out there.

[Cash8877]

Originally Posted by Cash8877

Erica, the new PRC gal from Ah May's joint, had quit since last weekend. She has left the massage trade for good and now is working a full time proper job & line. As to whether she will still do freelance massage and meet her regulars, it's up to her and will depend how well she know the regular and how much she trust him.

If she does meet anyone outside for massage, do refrain from mentioning or writing about it on SBF as to avoid those who are important to her in her life now from suspecting, knowing or finding out.

To those bros who PM me asking for her contact, sorry I will not give as she quit the massage trade. If you are her regular or visited her before, I believed you should have her contact. As to whether she will answer or reply your calls and texts, it's entirely up to her.

[ahpui99]

Thanks bros. didn't mean to hijack this trade on this particular issue. But the reality is that we men are suckers . And not just China FL wor. Thai girls in fact very powerful too.

Had a interesting dinner with a KTV girl last night. We are now friends, no fucking. Makan once in a while. I cannot afford to pay her league. lol...

Anyway, she said Malaysian girls are also very good. Outwardly seem simple but can also twist and turn a man's heart very well. I was rather amused as a few of my friends kenna by Malaysian massage girls.

It sucks, but cannot get KCed

[wolflust]

Remember they are in the trade for the money and most of them if they have the chance would not want find a partner from people they know from their trade.

[ahpui99]

I do hear of cases whereby they married clients, but very rare. For china girls, they prefer to marry within their province. Of cos there are marriages of conveniences in singapore.

For Malaysian, normally same kampong.

[owen10]

Originally Posted by ahpui99

I do hear of cases whereby they married clients, but very rare. For china girls, they prefer to marry within their province. Of cos there are marriages of conveniences in singapore.

For Malaysian, normally same kampong.

Originally Posted by wolflust

Remember they are in the trade for the money and most of them if they have the chance would not want find a partner from people they know from their trade.

yes, i've heard of some WLs/FLs who married S'poreans. i dunno if 'true love' is in their dictionary.

their marriage usually come with an agenda lah - marry an average S'porean, get PR which will lead them to a potential road of riches (many of them are alr old hands in the trade hence they have the knowhow to set up TN shops n where to recruit gals) or marry a rich sporean which they'll of cos expect him to give her a life of luxury n take care of her kampong back home.

[owen10]

not sure if it's only me or what ....................

next time u all go FC, juz observe the 2 security fellas (1 indian guy n 1 old man) at the L1 counter. always see their eyes glued on the monitors. N when they see any guys walk past them, they seem to give them 'that kind of look'.

[Giansex]

Originally Posted by ahpui99

Thanks bros. didn't mean to hijack this trade on this particular issue. But the reality is that we men are suckers . And not just China FL wor. Thai girls in fact very powerful too.

Had a interesting dinner with a KTV girl last night. We are now friends, no fucking. Makan once in a while. I cannot afford to pay her league. lol...

Anyway, she said Malaysian girls are also very good. Outwardly seem simple but can also twist and turn a man's heart very well. I was rather amused as a few of my friends kenna by Malaysian massage girls.

It sucks, but cannot get KCed

Ya i seen those wl dining at up class restaurant where i thought sushi
Tei will be good enough.drink at one attitude etc.buy them branded stuff.and gadget.like what i heard from a regular gal.she will one love the guy if he can use$$$to teh them.till they are use to the lifestyle

[ahpui99]

So the bottom line is what the fish we are doing right? I mean come on!!!!

We should find ways and means to protect our money, and grow our money. So many ways to do it man. Rather than waste in on them excessively....

In fact, men even in their 50's , who take good care of themselves, and have money and have good control of themselves, can have women throw themselves at them.

We need to reduce dependency on such WLs. Fuck yes, normal friend friend ok to share information, but cannot be stuck to them. Some ktv girls have taught me several things that i still use in my sales career. Haha. Going to ktv did help me a bit. Lol

[MPLover]

Originally Posted by Giansex

Ya i seen those wl dining at up class restaurant where i thought sushi
Tei will be good enough.drink at one attitude etc.buy them branded stuff.and gadget.like what i heard from a regular gal.she will one love the guy if he can use$$$to teh them.till they are use to the lifestyle

This I agree. I asked WLs out before and they always suggest restaurants be it breakfast, lunch, dinner or supper. If you suggest lower end places, quite sure they will turn you down the next time you ask them out again.

If you observe, WLs tends to have the latest gadgets and from head to toe covered in branded stuff ie watch, bags, clothes, wallets, belts. And if you asked them, most if not all are gifts and not their own money.

[MPLover]

Originally Posted by ahpui99

We need to reduce dependency on such WLs. Fuck yes, normal friend friend ok to share information, but cannot be stuck to them. Some ktv girls have taught me several things that i still use in my sales career. Haha. Going to ktv did help me a bit. Lol

Those I encountered, even if we are just normal friends and when we are meet for meals or drinks, she will hold my hands, hug and get touchy which at times gave me wrong signals. Maybe it's just the trade they are in and they got used to behaving this way to all.

[ahpui99]

What to do?
Just let it be loh. Most are not too bad looking. Haha.

The ideal is to have self awareness and self control, otherwise u will screw up your head and heart

[i^Xi0n]

Originally Posted by ahpui99

Thanks bros. didn't mean to hijack this trade on this particular issue. But the reality is that we men are suckers . And not just China FL wor. Thai girls in fact very powerful too.

Had a interesting dinner with a KTV girl last night. We are now friends, no fucking. Makan once in a while. I cannot afford to pay her league. lol...

Anyway, she said Malaysian girls are also very good. Outwardly seem simple but can also twist and turn a man's heart very well. I was rather amused as a few of my friends kenna by Malaysian massage girls.

It sucks, but cannot get KCed

As long as the gal uses her smile, her mouth and body to earn money, regardless of nationality, there will be guys who got KC. How good they are at KC just depends on how much practise they got and how long they earning money this way.

[i^Xi0n]

Originally Posted by wolflust

Remember they are in the trade for the money and most of them if they have the chance would not want find a partner from people they know from their trade.

Very true. Many WLs told me the same thing. While in this line, their only focus is earning money. If looking for boyfriend, will prefer to quit this line and find someone whom dunno about their past and they not keen to explore further with those they know while working. Of course there are those who fallen for customers. While most don't have any happy endings, there are some which does.

[i^Xi0n]

Originally Posted by owen10

yes, i've heard of some WLs/FLs who married S'poreans. i dunno if 'true love' is in their dictionary.

their marriage usually come with an agenda lah - marry an average S'porean, get PR which will lead them to a potential road of riches (many of them are alr old hands in the trade hence they have the knowhow to set up TN shops n where to recruit gals) or marry a rich sporean which they'll of cos expect him to give her a life of luxury n take care of her kampong back home.

Their true love depends on how much money the guy willing to spend and invest on her. Heard from some WLs that even if they totally don't like the guy but as long as he dotes on her with money related stuff, they can learn to like him over time. Whatever they do, there's always a hidden agenda.