How to KC a WL without being KC-ed by Her

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

i m in the Intermediate Stage + point 9

as of today.... include 1/2 of point 8.
8) You start to give her $$$...

to pay for room rental.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by Harvest

Perhaps you have met your "THE ONE".

"THE ONE" as in?

Originally Posted by Harvest

The only cure is to go COLD TURKEY.

I may implement this method of treatment once she goes back to HCMC.

But I still feel that the best method is to look for other gals to KC again. At least concentrate on other gals rather than thinking of her.

[warbird]

Originally Posted by Harvest

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Q6. You KC the WL good meh??? Isn't it cruel to "play" with their feelings as they are humans too and can fall into the KC trap?

Ans: Trust me on this: At least 99% of WLs have numbed their feelings liao. Do you think it is so easy for a woman to sell their bodies for a living, getting bonked by different men every day?? You can't imagine that kind of enormous traumatic psychological barriers they have to go through in order to have the courage to betray their flesh and dignity.

But having said that, you are right that once in a while there will be WLs who falls into the KC trap too. 2 years ago, I had a fling with this Dong Bei KTV gal who initially, tried to KC me big time ....

WLs have 1 Golden Rule in their trade: Never fall in love with a customer. So if the WL is stupid enough to break her own rule, then she has only herself to blame. But this group of WLs are far and few between. Majority are street-smart and deceptive. Just like in any other games, there will always be winners and losers in this KC game. If you win, don't be proud. If you lose, don't be sore. Above all, NEVER cheat the WL's hard-earned $$$.
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Hi bro Harvest,

IMHO, some young KTV gals on student visa who hv never done ST may behave somewhat differently. They r no less mercenary n will try to KC their clients for big financial gains. Almost all of them can be BAO-ed if the terms r right n if they hv some liking for u. It's still very hard to KC them successfully though.

Originally Posted by Harvest

A Quick Reference Guide to:
Top 10 Signs That You Have Fallen Into the KC Trap

Beginning Stage

1) You kept thinking of her after the sexual event every waking moment

2) You are overjoyed when she sent you a SMS and can't wait to reply immediately

3) The moment your pay comes in, you rushed to the ATM to withdraw $$$ for an urgent RTF

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Your staging is precise, practical n almost clinical, hahaha.

Fortunately, I hv never been KC-ed beyond the beginning stage.

cheers!

[juzplay]

Lucky me only guilty of stage 2...

Not enuff money and charm...

Guess it is also a blessing lah

[cablesnwires]

First off, a very solid thread with many positive contributions. My hats off to bro Harvest, for taking the time and effort to put in a very comprehensive guide book.

If I may, I would like to contribute my humble opinions on this subject.

One may have read countless of times, and still find it difficult to follow through the steps, perhaps the newbies in particular. At least to a newbie like me, it is a catch-22 situation:

No amount of theory that you read will make you a master, unless of course you need to gain the experience. I do not believe that one can harden his heart just by merely reading and following the guide. I am a firm believer of one having to go through the actual experience (and it may take numerous encounters) to actually fully comprehend the meaning. However, by going through the experience and along the way of getting hurt, sometimes even to the point of no-return, it does not seem to be worthwhile trying it.

Hypothetical Scenario:

I want to try out what was written and discussed in the thread. I'm game enough.
I read it 20 / 30 times maybe more, and feel confident about being able to play the game now.
I went to hunt for my target., and lo and behold, I spotted my target and begin to apply everything that I have learned (Feels damn shiok).
I am in control, happy like fuck, or at least that's what I was thinking.
However, along the way, somehow and something happened, things just does not work out anymore. The tables were turned.
I am defeated perhaps, even without my knowledge, or refusal to admit.
I lost big time, money, felt empty and think as if the whole world had ended.

In the above, how many will find it familiar?

For those who wants to really try this out, may I offer my humble opinion on this:

Find your target, but DO NOT find one that both physically and mentally attracted to her, and in your head screaming "I must have her!! I am damn interested in her!".
Instead, find someone that does not interest you a lot, or if possible find one that does not interest you at all. Brothers may find this amusing, or even to the extend of being stupid. Why the heck would I want to find someone who doesn't even tingle your balls? But my stand is this, finding a target that does not interest you at all is going to save you a whole load of shit problems later.

The keyword to this is getting yourself trained with real life experiences, and at the same time, you do not get yourself burnt or hurt along the way. Minimize all damages as far as I am concerned. And by doing it a few times, and each time progressing to the level of interest in your targets, you start to understand the whole process bit by bit. Once you have gained enough confidence, go for the desired one. Even when you hit upon a roadblock, you can always remind yourself: "Hey, she's not even the one I am interested!" and that is going to bring you back to reality.

As I mentioned earlier, why do I advocate finding your target with little or no interest in them? Many a times, our judgement are often clouded by our own feelings, and more often than not, the objectivity becomes lost forever. If you lose that, you lost your battle. Having said that, because your target is of no interest to you, you do maintain your objective with a clear mind, and would be able to execute the battle plan flawlessly.

To me, the keyword is "on the job training", and along the way, do not get yourself burnt excessively. Build up your confidence (but not to the extend of being haughty) and at the right time, you will find yourself able to handle situations much better.

放长线，钓大鱼。

I am just merely speaking from my own experiences and offering some insights to the guys who wanna play the game. However, YMMV accordingly. Every situation is unique, and may require some adaptation.

Good day to everyone.

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Haha well said bro but cant say that i agree to all but yes, to be a player, you must 1st walk thru the baptism of fire & taste the feeling of getting burnt.....hehheehehe
Kudos bro

[Harvest]

Originally Posted by KangTuo

"THE ONE" as in?

"THE ONE" is that once-in-a blue-moon, drop-from-the-sky dream girl, consciously or sub-consciously conceived. It may be love in first sight/lust, or slowly discovered after many interections/RTFs... sucking you deeper into the rabbit hole faster than any other girls you've been with. But by the time you've finally realized, you are often left powerless to resist her...

Originally Posted by warbird

Hi bro Harvest,

IMHO, some young KTV gals on student visa who hv never done ST may behave somewhat differently. They r no less mercenary n will try to KC their clients for big financial gains. Almost all of them can be BAO-ed if the terms r right n if they hv some liking for u. It's still very hard to KC them successfully though.

Agree with that, bro Warbird. The KC game is always a numbers game. Those who ever falls into your KC trap will be far and few between. So u are still sticking with your Fujian girl or hunting or a new replacement?

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

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No amount of theory that you read will make you a master, unless of course you need to gain the experience. I do not believe that one can harden his heart just by merely reading and following the guide. I am a firm believer of one having to go through the actual experience (and it may take numerous encounters) to actually fully comprehend the meaning. However, by going through the experience and along the way of getting hurt, sometimes even to the point of no-return, it does not seem to be worthwhile trying it.

Very good observation, bro. It boils down to assessing risk/reward balanced by other factors like financial strength and level of experience etc. The KC game is a very practical-oriented game, and in alot of unique situations it has to be fought with common sense. That is why mastering defense is so important, because it gives the cheongster a certain "KC insurance" before the risk exposure.

[groo]

Originally Posted by Harvest

"THE ONE" is that once-in-a blue-moon, drop-from-the-sky dream girl, consciously or sub-consciously conceived. It may be love in first sight/lust, or slowly discovered after many interections/RTFs...But by the time you've finally realized, you are often left powerless to resist her...

Bro-Harvest, great job on your "The Cheongster's Definitive Guide to How to KC a WL Without Being KC-ed by Her". After perusing your guide for the past weeks, I actually realised that I'm one of the very rare lucky ones to have a great 1-1/2 year relationship with a FL who "retired" halfway from the scene. Initially, I was the one who kena KC-ed. But 3 months into the relationship, she was counter-KCed...

Let's just say it was a rocky relationship from the start. She was actually the one who always took great pains to reassure me whenever doubts started creeping into our relationship. We were upfront from the start about each other's family background. So from the word "GO", I already knew that she'll leave some day. She also knew that there's no chance of us getting together as we each have our own lives to lead at the end of the day.

It was a year of bliss, I've to say. "...powerless to resist her..." - How true! Somehow, PRC girls are so 细心，温柔，体贴... I can see why so many men easily fall under their charms and skirts - 石榴裙下. By the way, those were the actual words she used to describe me when she finally fell under my charm - Bwahahahahahahahaha!!! It also helps if your China is powerful enough to always sms her love notes and silly poems, provided she knows how to appreciate them. I was in turn overwhelmed by hers as well - more than 2000 sms from her during that 1-1/2 year period, which I kept as emails, along with several hundred photos and videos I took of her.

She has since returned home. But we've maintained contact, and I'm glad to say she's a much happier person now than before, knowing she can achieve happiness.

After reading countless unhappy episodes in SBF, I'd like to think that I'm indeed blessed with such an encounter. I may also be lucky, since so many cases have ended up in unpleasant scenarios. So to all who are reading, I can only say Good Luck and God Bless...

Cheers!

[groo]

Originally Posted by Harvest

A Quick Reference Guide to:
Top 10 Signs That You Have Fallen Into the KC Trap
Beginning Stage
1) You kept thinking of her after the sexual event every waking moment
2) You are overjoyed when she sent you a SMS and can't wait to reply immediately
3) The moment your pay comes in, you rushed to the ATM to withdraw $$$ for an urgent RTF
Intermediate Stage
4) You look at her SMSes everywhere you go... driving, shitting, working, watching TV etc. and can't sleep at night... thinking of her
5) You start dating her out for makan, sight-seeing, pubbing, movies, FOC bonks etc on a regular basis
6) You got disappointed when she did not call/SMS for a day... and start wondering if she has other lovers too
7) You get anxious whenever she calls in sick, or heard a man's voice in the background, or detected something that is out of the norm
Advanced Stage
8) You start to give her more and more $$$ upon her requests giving her the benefit of doubt, even though your wallet hurts
9) You become posessively jealous and suspicious, checking on her every now and then.
10) You decided to quit commercial sex for her sake! Holy Cow. Who do you think you are? KC Superman saving a damsel in distress??

Bwahahahahahhaha!!! Bro-Yoda-Harvest-The-KC-Meister... you are fantastic!!! Interestingly, I'm only guilty of #s 2-5-6(sometimes)-9(again, sometimes)-10(Wow! I actually did QUIT!!! Bwahahahahahahaha!!! ). Maybe I've seen too much in the late 80s to early 90s when I travelled a lot to China for biz and having to do all that entertainment that got me immune to a certain extent... ;P

Even though you are a lau-jiao with much experience, your points and wisdom are just so spot-on and amazingly true... Your guide is a MUST-READ in SBF and I urge all bros who know of other bros in such shit to direct them here as a self-help programme...

Cheers n K-Cheonggggggg-aaahhhhhhh!!!!

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

No amount of theory that you read will make you a master, unless of course you need to gain the experience. I do not believe that one can harden his heart just by merely reading and following the guide. I am a firm believer of one having to go through the actual experience (and it may take numerous encounters) to actually fully comprehend the meaning. However, by going through the experience and along the way of getting hurt, sometimes even to the point of no-return, it does not seem to be worthwhile trying it.

Like what bro DYBJ said, unless one goes through the baptism by fire, one will never fully understand or appreciate the situation. We can read about this a million times but will still fall. End of the day, only those with a clear mind will survive.

And to me, having a clear mind is being able to distinguish between what you want and knowing what is merely an illusion. And unless one experience it firsthand, it is hard to have a clear mind.

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Haha well said bro but cant say that i agree to all but yes, to be a player, you must 1st walk thru the baptism of fire & taste the feeling of getting burnt.....hehheehehe
Kudos bro

Yes, I know. This does not apply to Alpha Males.

[HellMonster]

Originally Posted by groo

It also helps if your China is powerful enough to always sms her love notes and silly poems, provided she knows how to appreciate them. I was in turn overwhelmed by hers as well
Cheers!

Fully agree cos got once when i was listen to andy lau songs..in between the songs i find some useful meanings.then i sms her in chinese on tat meaning.follow on tat went to internet search for some touching love poems and sms her.she reply where i find all this?so touching.stupid of me go tell her i found on internet.but her reply was don copy others jus use your own verb of wat you want tell me and i will appreciate.and i was still under in Kc game.i just still play along as everyting is still under control.

[Beeman1024]

education that cannot be learn from books ...

many bro should take this seriously ...

F & F ..

GFE is dangerous .... don't play with fire ... the heart is a deep ocean that have too many unknowns ...

[hoosdathu]

this should be made a sticky sial

[aczeta76]

Originally Posted by slider_72

Like what bro DYBJ said, unless one goes through the baptism by fire, one will never fully understand or appreciate the situation. We can read about this a million times but will still fall. End of the day, only those with a clear mind will survive.

And to me, having a clear mind is being able to distinguish between what you want and knowing what is merely an illusion. And unless one experience it firsthand, it is hard to have a clear mind.

Even the hardened and season may falter and fall once in a while...