My Fillial Daughter

[free]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Gotcha!
Why do I named them as 101% THAI? Because they got the extra 1% which normal THAIs don't have.

That's a good one!

[Bangkok Master]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

you see bro, you still live in a dream. You come into people's lives in the most dramatic manner. "No one else had managed to touch her heart for the last 6 years." "cos no one as ever loved her as much as I do" etc, etc

What makes you think she never had someone better than you previously? And that someone may find her not good enough so he left? Because she tells you so? But that isn't the point. The point is that nobody says this or think this out in reality. You only see such "declaration" in movies.

Also, although you say is your 1st choice, with whatever reasons you put out, have you really read what you have written in your other posts? Like for example "Sigh, this is someone I really want to love, but cannot since I cannot help her at all. What to do?"

I think bro FREE is one of those confused man who can divide his attention to several ladies. I think he is just trying have some more back ups or just plainly jao-chuu. But I agreed that if you think that u have no future with the rest of the ladies, please let them go cos it is better off rather to drag them further. Although we men are out to have fun but we must still do things morally sometimes we mustn't be selfish everytime. I think they will eventually thank u later if they had found the rite one. So just consider like "Tam Boon". I myself is a bloody jao-chuu fucker, although sometimes I play around behind my gf's back but I will always stated my intention clear to the "Kigs" that I'm already attached so I will not commit anything. But I realise for the new generation thai girls, they are very modern thinking cos even though you can't give them real love, they will also settle for fake love if they really like u. I know I had taken advantage of this situation numerous times but sometimes I do feel guilty but on the other side I just can't control myself seeing babes with quality without action. But now I had manage to cool down some of my steam due to the my gf's pregnancy but I know my old sickness is difficult to cure so everytime that I'm close to making a mistake I will always picture myself with my gf and the baby, that will remind me of taking the wrong path.

[free]

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master

I think bro FREE is one of those confused man who can divide his attention to several ladies. I think he is just trying have some more back ups or just plainly jao-chuu. But I agreed that if you think that u have no future with the rest of the ladies, please let them go cos it is better off rather to drag them further. Although we men are out to have fun but we must still do things morally sometimes we mustn't be selfish everytime. I think they will eventually thank u later if they had found the rite one.
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for the new generation thai girls, they are very modern thinking cos even though you can't give them real love, they will also settle for fake love if they really like u. I know I had taken advantage of this situation numerous times but sometimes I do feel guilty but on the other side I just can't control myself seeing babes with quality without action. But now I had manage to cool down some of my steam due to the my gf's pregnancy but I know my old sickness is difficult to cure so everytime that I'm close to making a mistake I will always picture myself with my gf and the baby, that will remind me of taking the wrong path.

U have made a very big assumption. Fact is u THINK, but u DO NOT KNOW. Yes, I may be be in a unique situation where I am actually involved with 3 or even 4 ladies. And all decent, if not old-fashioned ones. But you have no idea what led to this situation and also what I did with each of them, when we are together. Nor do you know my motives, and I wish you would find time to sit down with me instead of jumping to conclusion, using your own experience and feelings, not mine. Let me give u a quick rundown, and perhaps you can understand a bit of what I had gone thru. 2years ago, I got to know Dancer just before she entered Uni, and what attracted my attention was her determination to go thru Uni even w/o her parents help (cos they can;t afford). That reminded me of what I went thru myself, and I tried to encourage her/help her out of compassion - we become friends. Our friendship developed into something about 3 months later and I came up to CR to see her again, We realised our r/s had grown over the phone and yes, we had fallen in love with each other, even though she had no intention to have a bf while in Uni cos she was not ready. Unlike most orthordox r/s, ours was one that had very little if hardly any physical, other then holding hands, hugging & a bit of kissing, cos she was simply not ready. I waited. It was possible cos there were a lot of other stuff that we could share/hangon to. When she was still not ready after > 1 year and still fear gossips (u can dun believe but as far as we are concerned her fears are real), I got impatient and started applying pressure, on top of many other small little things, including her having a different sense of priority than mine. One day she told me she wanted to remain single (during her final year) and dun want to have a bf until she graduated. I had no choice but to accept her decisoon. So we splitted, but the feelings between us still remained strong, inspite of no sex involved in the past, cos a lot of foundation had been built (really, isn't that the best way?).

Thinking that it was really all over, I went on my own way and met someone else (Rain), whom I tot was really ready for a full-fledge r/s. The very day after I agree with Rain that we would try to work something out, Dancer told me she wanted to come back to me. I told her NO, cos I had given my word to Rain that I would give her my all, and I did. Dancer was deeply hurt, even up till today she still felt the pain of my rejection. Unfortunately, Rain and I did not work out, due to literally one BIG reason. Our 100% difference in our need for romance - romantic me always make her "mo hor". Unless u have been there, u will never under how tough it is for us. After a big family meeting with her parents also involved, where we talked things thru, we bid each other farewell cos we had hit a dead end. Till today, I maintain that if Rain could have been more romantic, I would have married her and we would be happy. But this one just cannot play even a bit of KC. Over the 6 months when I was with Rain, Dancer and I kept in occasional contact, treating each other as bro/sis and nothing more. At this point, I definitely dun see myself as jao chuu.

After Rain and I splitted, I tot that since both of us were not attached, and Dancer also wanted to return 5 months ago, maybe we still had a chance. I flew to CR and she left Phayao on Mother's Day to meet me in CR, somethign she will not do, if she is not interested too. Unfortunately, even as she was keen, she was still not ready, and we drifted apart again. Then I met my Film. Film and I had been platonic friends for 1 yr, and I had never tot of dating her, until she told me she really liked me & had developed some feelings for me. Since Dancer & I never really got back, I decided to give it shot with Film. And boy, did this r/s progress. So even at this stage, I dated only 1 woman at anyone time. It went well, very well. Film was different from the other 2. She really took care of me, and did her best to meet my needs, just like she said she would (when we were just friends) take care of her bf if he was someone like me. She knew how I treated Dancer and then Rain. So our r/s grew, except I was always having problems with her eldest sister who jsut didn't like SG guys, cos her ex-SG bf (met at her company) turned out to be a bad egg.

One day Film listen to her sister too much and did something that I intepreted that she dun need me or want me anymore after I had paid a sum of money for her operation (genuine). So I left her & went away. In my sorrow, I turned to my Nong for consolation and thats where I met R, the ex-stock broker. For the 1st time in my life, I fell in love at 1st sight and she too did the same. Again, emotions and intellect was what pulled us together, not sex cos we have not had it. As this was developing, Fim realised her mistake as I had stopped calling her and even if she called, I was nao jai, and she knew I was far away. I had lost trust in her in that I do not think she will ever dared to disobey her sis, but she worked hard to win me back. At the same time, R and I were too busy to even meet so our r/s never progressed beyong the initial stage. Also at that time, Dancer was graduating and she told me she still remembered her promise to come back to me after her graduation & she's going to if I allow (when I had lost all hope that she will ever come back).

So at this point, I was like having 3 gf's & yet I had none as the confirmed one, cos circumstances had made me wary of giving my heart too easily now. None had tried to cheat me, yet it was tough, given the distance and the differences. So I decided to get to know each of them a bit better before I can decide. Knowing R also made me realised that there is a particular type of woman that appeals to me most, & that was why I met up with dancer's classmate over CNY in BKK. We had been friends for 2 yrs and had always liked each other. But as I was with Dancer then, we never started anything.
As I mentioned earlier, as Film tried hard to win me back, I realised that the foundation friendship we had built up in past is haunting me to consider giving her a chance to rescind her mistake and I decide to spend my birthday with her. I am glad I did, for she convinced me that she knew she had hurt me (even though unintentionally, cos she was listening to her sist too much to understand the consequences of my warning that I will quit if she continues with what she did) and she will not repeat it again, but will treasure my love for her. This time she told her mum her feelings for me right in my presence, and we agree to visit her mum at my next trip.

So now I have 4 ladies interested in me. And when literally all invited me to visit their parents, I knew the time had come to make a decision. The "getting to know you stage" is over. I had intended to spend time to get to know one (at least at a time) but situation went out of control and I ended up with 4 (3 definitely very serious with me). U think I have an great time? No! it was tough. I was struggling to chose as each has her own merits.

Finally it was Bro TV's comment that made me realised that one I should choose is the one who had stayed with me all these while, even though she had "chased" me away at one point unintentionally. And you know what, of all the 4 that I dated, during that period, Fim is the only one I made love with - no one else. Cos Fim had given herself to me as an expression of her love, and strives to meet my needs, I could not bring myself to do anything with the rest, even though I had the chance to. (Film was surely happy that I had kept my word that I will be faithful to her if she is faithful to me).

So I think my situation is different than yours. Perhaps mentally and emotionally I had strayed from Fim after she had "chased" me away, but physically I had not. Her striving to meet my physical needs had already borne fruits for her. It was not a married wife or a baby that kept me "faithful". It was her love for me, and the way she goes about loving me. That was ultimately what made me choose her - her TRUE LOVE, for I threw away the "normal" criterion call "pretty", "highly educated", "financial independence" and "good past", thanks to what TV said. And all these while when I was away, she said she had trusted me to remain faithful, and I know that's true. Again, it was the open deep sharing we had as good friends that had helped us to remain together, understanding and believing each other's innerself when superfically, we seem to behave differently.

So, did I really jao chuu , flirt around, and took advantage of poor damsels in need? You decide. My conscience is clear, and I had not hid the other 3 from Film. She knew.

[easyeasy]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

There was once a girl in GL some few years back when I'm one of her regular. She told me that if anyone wants to marry her, has to put in $50,000 in her bank account and provide her with $5,000 a month. She was actually hinting to me. Well, I told her straight to her face that if I were to put an advert in the Thai Newspaper, what kind of girls will be responding so why should I be giving a prostitute this kind of money.

KNN for this wonderful statment I up you 6 points when I can as i got this when trying to up you.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to thaivisitor again.

[easyeasy]

Originally Posted by free

So now I have 4 ladies interested in me. And when literally all invited me to visit their parents, I knew the time had come to make a decision. The "getting to know you stage" is over. I had intended to spend time to get to know one (at least at a time) but situation went out of control and I ended up with 4 (3 definitely very serious with me).

wah you machiam like the thai version of the US reality TV show the bachelor, kekeke.

[free]

Originally Posted by easyeasy

wah you machiam like the thai version of the US reality TV show the bachelor, kekeke.

Not all all. I felt bad actually, cos somehow, I had let them come into my life one by one, whether on my own or thru concerned friends trying to help me get over my hurts at that time. Only advantage is I had a few interested gals to talk to when I am bored or lonely. Maybe I should not have allowed the lady's or my heart to consider a "return journey", and move on totally when things dun work out. But then, if I had done that, my tirak and I won't be together any more! So how?

I still think that it was the 8+ months of platonic friendship that my tirak and I had, when we were talking as simply good friends about 2 times a week when I am in SG and everyday if I am in LOS, w/o meeting up so emotions dun develop easily. That period had allowed us to get to know each other w/o any emotions involved, where we share a lot of our own dreams, hopes and disappointments with each other. Also using each other as "sparring partners" for my Thai and her English. Ended up we became very comfortable to share with each other anything under the sun. So when the big trouble came, we sort of knew that internally, we saw happening may not be the real thing, so we gave each other 2nd chance.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master

I think bro FREE is one of those confused man who can divide his attention to several ladies. I think he is just trying have some more back ups or just plainly jao-chuu. But I agreed that if you think that u have no future with the rest of the ladies, please let them go cos it is better off rather to drag them further. Although we men are out to have fun but we must still do things morally sometimes we mustn't be selfish everytime. I think they will eventually thank u later if they had found the rite one. So just consider like "Tam Boon". I myself is a bloody jao-chuu fucker, although sometimes I play around behind my gf's back but I will always stated my intention clear to the "Kigs" that I'm already attached so I will not commit anything. But I realise for the new generation thai girls, they are very modern thinking cos even though you can't give them real love, they will also settle for fake love if they really like u. I know I had taken advantage of this situation numerous times but sometimes I do feel guilty but on the other side I just can't control myself seeing babes with quality without action. But now I had manage to cool down some of my steam due to the my gf's pregnancy but I know my old sickness is difficult to cure so everytime that I'm close to making a mistake I will always picture myself with my gf and the baby, that will remind me of taking the wrong path.

As you can see, Free's relationship is those very "luan" type. In Chinese is called Fan Tao Hua. But not for us to go and chup people's relationship.

Hope we can turn back this thread to the "Fillial Daughter" rather than talking about love stuff.

thanks
SC

[Snuber]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Hope we can turn back this thread to the "Fillial Daughter" rather than talking about love stuff.

Not to sound biased or anything, but the last few pages here have been filled with posts which should be in the LDT thread, which deviates from the topic here.

Kindly keep the postings here related to this topic. Thanks.

[free]

Originally Posted by Snuber

Not to sound biased or anything, but the last few pages here have been filled with posts which should be in the LDT thread, which deviates from the topic here.

Kindly keep the postings here related to this topic. Thanks.

Agree with you totally. That's why I restarted the LDTR thread. Apologize to SC for the straying off topic. Guess there are areas that overlapped. Hope everyone can give this thread its due respect, definitely it's a great thread.

[free]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

kekekekeke, bro be careful, one comment from you will get a reply 10 pages from Bro Free to justify his stand leh...
kekekekekeke

Not really. I have never explained how I got to meet the 4 wondeful gals (and how they coincide with one another). So it is easy for other ppl (who are not close to me) to think I am just trying to have backups or flirt around with them. Now that I have done that, and also selected one to carry on my journey with, I am moving on. Gotta leave the past behind cos cannot allow any more "return match" liao.

[Bangkok Master]

Originally Posted by free

U have made a very big assumption. Fact is u THINK, but u DO NOT KNOW.

Probably my big assumption ignite your fire, I do apologise on the part. But on the other side, probably you think that you had not venture into the jao-chuu zone. Once you are involved in some kind of relationship even without sex or even knew one after another, you are considered fickle minded. I know that you're clear conscious and it's not for me to judge on that so I still wish you all the best for you and your chosen one. Cheers.....

[free]

Originally Posted by Bangkok Master

Probably my big assumption ignite your fire, I do apologise on the part. But on the other side, probably you think that you had not venture into the jao-chuu zone. Once you are involved in some kind of relationship even without sex or even knew one after another, you are considered fickle minded. I know that you're clear conscious and it's not for me to judge on that so I still wish you all the best for you and your chosen one. Cheers.....

Hey Bro, I am NOT upset all! Dun u worry. It was just that I realised that my journey with Dancer started 2 years ago, and the thread that had the initial story had been deleted. Most people do not know what I went thru, so I thought I need to explain how I got to this point by giving a brief run-down of my journey. Essentially that post tried to summarize 2 years worth of experiences, ups & downs. I did say that in the mental and emotional realm I had strayed. But not in the physical and that was good enough for my beloved, cos she knew want had caused me to go away. My fickle-mindness certainly was there, as I let the past return. I dun know, but I suppose everything happens for a reason, some of which all of us involved have yet to understand.

Anyway, since I told my Film I have chosen her, we have re-committed ourselves to one another and the journey has been really good, and on rather firm ground. We certainly don't take each other for granted as much as we had in the past. I think my trip to visit her mum will further cement the r/s.

Thanks for your good wishes - we will need it.

[ryanlim]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

KNN, are you a red-blooded man or what?

ppl now in LOS enjoying himself with his Chosen One for the next 10 days or so lah.........

[ryanlim]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

don't worry lah... he'll find some time to reply the post lah...

with a 10 posts reply??????

[free]

Originally Posted by thaivisitor

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Bro, are you saying the during your 2 years with the 4 musketeers, you have never had sex with anyone other girls, commercial or non-commercial?

I don't know much about your private life but I find it hard to believe that a person not married, even though attached, seasoned samster of SB forums, have not engaged in any other form of sex, commmercial or otherwise.

KNN, are you a red-blooded man or what?

I am only saying that at that time when I went away from Film and met up with the other 3 (1 is the ex-stock broker, 2nd is my ex, and the 3rd her Uni classmate) , I did not have sex with them even when I had the chance to (with 2 of them, at least).

I am a normal red-blooded man alright. but perhaps with a bit better self-control than most. In between r/s I may fling a bit, depends. With the right gal, I'd be super horny. With someone I have no feelings for, I am just disinterested - cos as far as I am concerned, there is a huge difference between "having sex" and "making love". Already sick of those days where HC/GL. whatever also fair game.

As it is, after the 1st day with my Film when we could "do what couples did", the next 5 days/night were tough for me, cos I was so close to her and yet so far. Also. cos sleeping at papa/mama house got to "hai gliat" to her lah. She sleeps with her mum while I sleep with her bro in the next room. Her dad went to sleep at his brother's house next door. Can't even tuck her into bed Even got to steal goodnight kisses by pretending to be thirsty and meet at the fridge just outside her bedroom. But after come back from Phayao to BKK, its a different story the next 4 day/nights. Actually more accurate to say "no day no night". Kind of sore now - she too, kekeke.