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Old 12-05-2016, 11:14 AM
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BTW, some bros hv kept mentioning FOC as if its the holy grail in woman-man RS. What is the big fxxking deal?

Two days ago I casually asked a pretty local staff nurse to go dinner. She was flattered n said anytime. She owns a home nursing agency n has provided service to my mom.

She is single, in her late 20s. Abt 162 n very very fair for a local gal. Body quite proportionate too. Worth a FOC fuck, yeah? She is among the best looking local gals I hv seen in a long time. If I see a better n younger one, I'll ask immediately. I hv not asked a local gal to go out since I got married decades ago.

A good friend says since she knows my mom n my wife from Gotham City, don't touch her. He is thinking too much. Who cares?

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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Hi Bro Warbird,

It's lovely to catch up with you yesterday even if its less than 15 minutes. I hope to join you in future outings soon.

My perspective (ex Patron of several BY):

1) I agree with you on getting FOC as not being the "Holy Grail". To have such a mindset is, in essence, an ego trip and validation of the self esteem. I have no need for this.

The real issue is the efficiency and effectiveness of landing a BY that delivers on what you deemed as aesthetically beautiful. A BY that delivers the right strokes and pushes your right buttons when it comes to GFE.

A KTV setting offers the most efficient way to "sort" and shortlist. On average, the girls at a KTV is aesthetically more pleasing than the sort where you hope to meet on chance encounters.

2) Let's be realistic here, a working girl that seeks your patronage will mostly present her best side. Her odious behaviour is obscured and less than flattering looks are minimised. At least before the "take you for granted stage", whereby its the signal for you to dump her and move on.

If you want the warts and all, authentic girl who gives "real" GFE, then BY is not for you.

* Cynics like myself recognise that GFE is always contextualised and oftentimes used as a leverage to forward their vested interest.

3) To me, to be able to land a mistress that delivers great sex and nice GFE is analogous to find a great employee. You treasure her services for as long as she delivers. It is like contractual obligation. One that is more "honest" in that hidden agendas and womanly wiles are reduced because of the explicitness of the defined roles and concomitant rewards.

4) Some brothers like to compete against another. To land a hong pai in the face of challenges from other men who may be richer and perhaps handsomer than you seems like a victory and a psychic trophy. Others simply relish the self mastery aspect the game. I am of the latter.

For me, in this game, ego management, emotional control, value propositions and great sex are overriding considerations. I also enjoy the psychological dynamics that are involved in this game.

5) To be sure, in the world of BY, an ineluctable factor is money. It takes money to structure the type of relationship and interaction you want from a BY. Brothers who think otherwise are only deceiving themselves.

The challenge is how to deliver maximum gains for your money! Literally the best bang for your buck!

6) The BY game is more honest. The fall out from the relationship is less damaging to both patron and BY. Brothers who have been through a messy, acrimonious, expensive divorce know exactly what I am talking about!

In summary, the BY game also affords:
i) variety,
ii) the thrill of chase,
ii) efficiency in locating and selecting your aesthetic type,
iv) clearer definition and demarkation of gender dynamics,
v) demanding and getting the type of sex you want,
vi) emotional mastery of self (especially the control of ego urges ... hanging flower "battles" are classic examples of poor ego mastery!)
vii) .... it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!

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Re: Picking up KTV gals ouside KTVs

Wow, bro-Justime! Your eloquent piece really encapsulates the essence of what BY is all about. I especially like your last statement, "...it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!!" Haha, great stuff!

It's always a pleasure to read experienced and senior bros' writings, which give personal and accurate insights into the various aspects of adult gaming. Adult gaming, ha!

Bro-WB always writes with humour and calm, never slinging mud at anyone. This in SBF is rare as even senior cheongsters here would kpkb at the slightest provocation. I would think that a lesser younger being would be utterly exasperated after having cross swords with him. Out of desperation, all sorts of name calling would appear, "you fat, bald, old, ugly, I-handsome, SYTs-love-me, blah-blah-blah...". Oh-My-Wahlau-ay! Bwahahaha!

It's nice to come back to SBF and see that our Sexmeritus-Mentor-Cheongsters are still at it and going strong... Cheers n Cheong-ahhh...!

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Hi Bro Warbird,...In summary, the BY game also affords:
i) variety,
ii) the thrill of chase,
ii) efficiency in locating and selecting your aesthetic type,
iv) clearer definition and demarkation of gender dynamics,
v) demanding and getting the type of sex you want,
vi) emotional mastery of self (especially the control of ego urges ... hanging flower "battles" are classic examples of poor ego mastery!)
vii) .... it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!
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Hi Bro Warbird,

It's lovely to catch up with you yesterday even if its less than 15 minutes. I hope to join you in future outings soon.

My perspective (ex Patron of several BY):

1) I agree with you on getting FOC as not being the "Holy Grail". To have such a mindset is, in essence, an ego trip and validation of the self esteem. I have no need for this.

The real issue is the efficiency and effectiveness of landing a BY that delivers on what you deemed as aesthetically beautiful. A BY that delivers the right strokes and pushes your right buttons when it comes to GFE.

A KTV setting offers the most efficient way to "sort" and shortlist. On average, the girls at a KTV is aesthetically more pleasing than the sort where you hope to meet on chance encounters.

2) Let's be realistic here, a working girl that seeks your patronage will mostly present her best side. Her odious behaviour is obscured and less than flattering looks are minimised. At least before the "take you for granted stage", whereby its the signal for you to dump her and move on.

If you want the warts and all, authentic girl who gives "real" GFE, then BY is not for you.

* Cynics like myself recognise that GFE is always contextualised and oftentimes used as a leverage to forward their vested interest.

3) To me, to be able to land a mistress that delivers great sex and nice GFE is analogous to find a great employee. You treasure her services for as long as she delivers. It is like contractual obligation. One that is more "honest" in that hidden agendas and womanly wiles are reduced because of the explicitness of the defined roles and concomitant rewards.

4) Some brothers like to compete against another. To land a hong pai in the face of challenges from other men who may be richer and perhaps handsomer than you seems like a victory and a psychic trophy. Others simply relish the self mastery aspect the game. I am of the latter.

For me, in this game, ego management, emotional control, value propositions and great sex are overriding considerations. I also enjoy the psychological dynamics that are involved in this game.

5) To be sure, in the world of BY, an ineluctable factor is money. It takes money to structure the type of relationship and interaction you want from a BY. Brothers who think otherwise are only deceiving themselves.

The challenge is how to deliver maximum gains for your money! Literally the best bang for your buck!

6) The BY game is more honest. The fall out from the relationship is less damaging to both patron and BY. Brothers who have been through a messy, acrimonious, expensive divorce know exactly what I am talking about!

In summary, the BY game also affords:
i) variety,
ii) the thrill of chase,
ii) efficiency in locating and selecting your aesthetic type,
iv) clearer definition and demarkation of gender dynamics,
v) demanding and getting the type of sex you want,
vi) emotional mastery of self (especially the control of ego urges ... hanging flower "battles" are classic examples of poor ego mastery!)
vii) .... it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!

Cheers to one and all!
Bro Justime, good sharing on your part. Love this thread cos of the many sharing of other bros experiences. Always got new things to learn. Up you with my humble 7 points.
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Wow, bro-Justime! Your eloquent piece really encapsulates the essence of what BY is all about. I especially like your last statement, "...it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!!" Haha, great stuff!

It's always a pleasure to read experienced and senior bros' writings, which give personal and accurate insights into the various aspects of adult gaming. Adult gaming, ha!

Bro-WB always writes with humour and calm, never slinging mud at anyone. This in SBF is rare as even senior cheongsters here would kpkb at the slightest provocation. I would think that a lesser younger being would be utterly exasperated after having cross swords with him. Out of desperation, all sorts of name calling would appear, "you fat, bald, old, ugly, I-handsome, SYTs-love-me, blah-blah-blah...". Oh-My-Wahlau-ay! Bwahahaha!

It's nice to come back to SBF and see that our Sexmeritus-Mentor-Cheongsters are still at it and going strong... Cheers n Cheong-ahhh...!
Agreed. A successful man once told me. "When you know you have more money than them, no need to insult them."
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Agreed. A successful man once told me. "When you know you have more money than them, no need to insult them."
Another wise man said: Have more than you show. Speak less than you know.
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Hi Bro Warbird,
It's lovely to catch up with you yesterday even if its less than 15 minutes. I hope to join you in future outings soon.
My perspective (ex Patron of several BY):
1) I agree with you on getting FOC as not being the "Holy Grail". To have such a mindset is, in essence, an ego trip and validation of the self esteem. I have no need for this.
The real issue is the efficiency and effectiveness of landing a BY that delivers on what you deemed as aesthetically beautiful. A BY that delivers the right strokes and pushes your right buttons when it comes to GFE.
A KTV setting offers the most efficient way to "sort" and shortlist. On average, the girls at a KTV is aesthetically more pleasing than the sort where you hope to meet on chance encounters.
2) Let's be realistic here, a working girl that seeks your patronage will mostly present her best side. Her odious behaviour is obscured and less than flattering looks are minimised. At least before the "take you for granted stage", whereby its the signal for you to dump her and move on.
If you want the warts and all, authentic girl who gives "real" GFE, then BY is not for you.
* Cynics like myself recognise that GFE is always contextualised and oftentimes used as a leverage to forward their vested interest.
3) To me, to be able to land a mistress that delivers great sex and nice GFE is analogous to find a great employee. You treasure her services for as long as she delivers. It is like contractual obligation. One that is more "honest" in that hidden agendas and womanly wiles are reduced because of the explicitness of the defined roles and concomitant rewards.
4) Some brothers like to compete against another. To land a hong pai in the face of challenges from other men who may be richer and perhaps handsomer than you seems like a victory and a psychic trophy. Others simply relish the self mastery aspect the game. I am of the latter.
For me, in this game, ego management, emotional control, value propositions and great sex are overriding considerations. I also enjoy the psychological dynamics that are involved in this game.
5) To be sure, in the world of BY, an ineluctable factor is money. It takes money to structure the type of relationship and interaction you want from a BY. Brothers who think otherwise are only deceiving themselves.
The challenge is how to deliver maximum gains for your money! Literally the best bang for your buck!
6) The BY game is more honest. The fall out from the relationship is less damaging to both patron and BY. Brothers who have been through a messy, acrimonious, expensive divorce know exactly what I am talking about!
In summary, the BY game also affords:
i) variety,
ii) the thrill of chase,
ii) efficiency in locating and selecting your aesthetic type,
iv) clearer definition and demarkation of gender dynamics,
v) demanding and getting the type of sex you want,
vi) emotional mastery of self (especially the control of ego urges ... hanging flower "battles" are classic examples of poor ego mastery!)
vii) .... it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!

Cheers to one and all!
Dear bro Justime,

Thanks for your excellent n insightful post!! It was indeed my pleasure to be able to meet you the other night!!

You hv gone though some tough times but you hv emerged stronger n more confident/dominant than ever before!! You're as cool n as calm as cucumber. It's a reflection of your underlying MASSIVE EMOTIONAL STRENGTH!!

Here is a badass gentleman quote of the week:

EMOTIONAL STRENGTH

"My theory is that women respond to this like nothing else on earth because the truth is that this is the greatest sign of power, and the most difficult to achieve, the most difficult for a woman to find in a man."

Bro Justime, you hv something very very difficult for a woman to find in a man.

Your insights n advice on BY-ing are very useful to all of us here.

I like to add that a doll's character n personality matter a lot in a LT rs, including LT BY. It's unimportant in a ST, except that we should be able to identify n avoid the pyscho n the very rare female serial killer hahaha. It does happen: http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/09/ju...yacht-killing/

I hope you could share your wisdom n BY pearls w/ all of us here on a regular basis. Your command of English is excellent n I always enjoy your erudite n informative posts.

Cheers!

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Wow, bro-Justime! Your eloquent piece really encapsulates the essence of what BY is all about. I especially like your last statement, "...it can even serve as motivation to earn more money!!!!!" Haha, great stuff!

It's always a pleasure to read experienced and senior bros' writings, which give personal and accurate insights into the various aspects of adult gaming. Adult gaming, ha!

Bro-WB always writes with humour and calm, never slinging mud at anyone. This in SBF is rare as even senior cheongsters here would kpkb at the slightest provocation. I would think that a lesser younger being would be utterly exasperated after having cross swords with him. Out of desperation, all sorts of name calling would appear, "you fat, bald, old, ugly, I-handsome, SYTs-love-me, blah-blah-blah...". Oh-My-Wahlau-ay! Bwahahaha!

It's nice to come back to SBF and see that our Sexmeritus-Mentor-Cheongsters are still at it and going strong... Cheers n Cheong-ahhh...!
Bro groo,

It's our good fortune to hear from bro Justime again. He IS the orginal Bao King of SG!! I hv learned so much from him during my formative years here in SG. I last met him in March of 2012 at LV 5th fl. Time really flies!!

Cheers!

Bro WB

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Bro Justime, good sharing on your part. Love this thread cos of the many sharing of other bros experiences. Always got new things to learn. Up you with my humble 7 points.
Bro Alfonse,

I hope bro Justime could help take the effectiveness n value of this thread to new heights!

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Agreed. A successful man once told me. "When you know you have more money than them, no need to insult them."
Very true.

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Funny thing is, when you have more money than (some of) them, they insult you leh... Bwahahaha!
It's called ENVY.

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Another wise man said: Have more than you show. Speak less than you know.
You're right.

Empty vessels make the most noise.

cheers!

Bro WB

.................................................. ..........

Good morning!!

I hv not forgotten abt the materials I'm going to post on Emotional Strength. It's coming very soon.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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Bro groo,

It's our good fortune to hear from bro Justime again. He IS the orginal Bao King of SG!! I hv learned so much from him during my formative years here in SG. I last met him in March of 2012 at LV 5th fl. Time really flies!!

Cheers!

Bro WB
When there is a King always there is a Queen? So who is she?

Thank you for sharing and look forward to your post on "Emotional Strength".
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Bro, thank you for sharing all your nice pickup stories.
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Just wondering anyone end up falling for and marrying the BY babe?
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When there is a King always there is a Queen? So who is she?

Thank you for sharing and look forward to your post on "Emotional Strength".
Bro,

A king has a queen n many concubines. Will get ready to discuss about "emotional strength" or "emotional mastery."

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Bro, thank you for sharing all your nice pickup stories.
Tks for ur post.

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Just wondering anyone end up falling for and marrying the BY babe?
Bro,

I hv one former mistress who married a rich young men in SG n another gal I used to ST who married a rich young man in Malaysia. I'm sure there are others but I hv lost ctc w/ some of them.

I do hv some KC for most of my LT mistresses. I may want a few of them to bear my kids. Can't marry anyone because I'm already married.

Cheers!

..................................................

Good evening!

I went to Lido SH last night w/ two young professional bros. Since one of the bros had balance, the expense per pax is very modest. There were some gems n we had a doll each. Mine is a 20 yo cute SYT, very fair, good body/limb proportions n full natural B. Only 160, 45 kg. Her 2nd day in SG. I saw her passport. Height is no longer very important to me as long as the doll has the right proportions n small wrists.
I met her this afternoon. A very good fuck!! Great kisser n good BBBJ. Very wet n orgasmic. She wanted more...very disappointed that I couldn't take her to dinner. May offer her BY.

.................................................. .................

I'm inviting kakis to join my outings to two types of joints:

First, you must meet two criteria. 1) be a light drinker, 2) willing to smoke outside the room.

Second hand smoke is very hazardous to health. I intend to stay healthy so that I can bonk as many pretty dolls of my type as possible, for as long as possible.

The two types of joints:

A) HH at Peace Centre joints, Dynasty or Jade/China doll. 5:00 till 9-9:30pm.

Expense per pax $30-60. Booking $150, butterfly $30-50. Only booking at Dynasty.

B) SH at P8 n Lido or other high end joints. 9:00pm-2:30am.

Estimated expense per pax $100-150, booking $300. Some gals may want $500! If I hv a balance, expense per pax could be as low as $50!

I usually leave early n I don't drink one drop, but will share the expenses equally. Fair enough?

Peace Centre joints hv the most number of dolls for viewing at HH. Whereas prettier dolls may be available for SH at higher end joints. There is considerable overlap though.

PM your ctc if interested. Pls indicate your interest, option A or B, or both.

Cheers!

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Bro,

I hv one former mistress who married a rich young men in SG n another gal I used to ST who married a rich young man in Malaysia. I'm sure there are others but I hv lost ctc w/ some of them.

I do hv some KC for most of my LT mistresses. I may want a few of them to bear my kids. Can't marry anyone because I'm already married.

Cheers!


Bro WB
Hi bro,
Thanks for sharing. I heard stories of how some really fall for the BY babe and end up marrying. But happy ending or not, i dont know.

I also hear stories like the SD treat BY babe like gf/wife but didnt realised that when the SD is not around, the babe stayed with her bf. The sad thing is the SD thought the babe is hanging out with family or friends.
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Hi bro,
Thanks for sharing. I heard stories of how some really fall for the BY babe and end up marrying. But happy ending or not, i dont know.

I also hear stories like the SD treat BY babe like gf/wife but didnt realised that when the SD is not around, the babe stayed with her bf. The sad thing is the SD thought the babe is hanging out with family or friends.
Bro,

Some marriages do turn out well, but nothing lasts forever.

Yeah, some mistresses do cheat. At least 50% of legal wives also cheat.

Be THE MAN w/ awesome emotional mastery.

Cheers!

Bro WB

...........................................

Good afternoon,

I'm reading this e-book entitled Secrets to Success with Women by Michael W for the second time. I wish I had read it 5 times a few years ago.

Here is what the guru has to say about being THE MAN:

WHY BEING THE MAN IS THE CRUCIAL FACTOR

Women are unconsciously attracted to power in all its forms, but not all its

forms create the same kind of desire or even the same degree of desire.

A sexy appearance is a SIGN of power in the sense of vitality/good genes.

Wealth is a SIGN of power in the sense of secure resources for her children.

But when it comes to creating RAW SEXUAL DESIRE in a woman, these are all INDIRECT signs. They give indirect directions on her mental map. They say, for example, “I am good looking, I may therefore have good genes, you may therefore want me”. And maybe she will, maybe she won’t.

It’s like me giving you directions to go right, then left, then right, then make two lefts, and on and on, when I could have just told you to just cross the street to get to the damn place! Maybe you’ll make it there the first way, maybe you won’t!

The most important power you can have is knowing how to DIRECTLY stimulate the “nerves” of her SEXUAL desire, through your DISTINCTLY MASCULINE SEXY BEHAVIOR that indicates you are her other half, required for her to feel complete. Think yin/yang here, the masculine balancing the feminine and vice versa.

By behaving in a masculine way, you create the CLEAREST CONNECTION TO A WOMAN’S SEXUAL DESIRE.

It’s like your sign now reads: AS YOU CAN FEEL, I AM YOUR SEXUAL DESIRE INCARNATE.

It’s like waving a glass of water to a man dying of thirst in the desert!

No explanations and no interpretations are necessary!

I WANT THAT WATER, NOW!

When you behave as THE MAN, you are giving her the most DIRECT “SIGN” of your sexual worthiness - the sign that says you are her missing component, you are the masculine to balance her feminine.

The other “signs” of power are like a roundabout route to a destination instead of the direct route. The other signs are unclear from a sexual perspective, since they are not distinctly sexual. After all, a woman can have money, and a man’s looks may be deceiving.

But a man’s actions speak louder about his sexual attractiveness than his wallet, his looks or his words:

If he BEHAVES like a MAN, he probably IS.
DING! Sexual desire in a woman is now stimulated.

Think of it this way:
Great looks/great wealth/etc. = signs of power = possible sexiness

BUT BEHAVING as A MAN= “proof” of power = definite sexiness

By directly stimulating the “nerves” responsible for triggering a woman’s sexual desire, you BYPASS all the inefficient methods and create an expressway to attraction.

Behaving in a MASCULINE way means being relaxed while also being confident and dominant, and not having emotional reactions to things.

And what do all these behaviors have in common? The answer is EMOTIONAL STRENGTH.



(To Be Continued)

To me, Emotional Strength is the same as Emotional Mastery n Self Mastery.

Cheers!

Bro WB
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